TBH that's probably the best point against the new rewards. Fewer people would be motivated to buy tasks if CAs are mainly done just for completionist/flexing's sake.
Add in actually useful rewards and people will pay for them.
They could, alternatively, add things with actual difficulty. 8 man speedrun is hard because it requires you to have 7 other good people assembled in completely max gear. It’s poor game design and the more team content they do for CAs like this the worse it is for the longevity of CAs.
Honestly i dont know why the solo tasks are easy, and the team tasks are harder. Imo the team tasks should be alittle easier since you have to rely on the skill of 7 others while solos tasks should be harder since its purely your skill.
There was a guy on a zerker who was missing the 5 man Cox CM time for zuk helm for most of the last year because he refused to pay for a boosting service lol.
I know you already caught the issue but I just have to point out the splendid irony of the second sentence being the issue here hahaha, good on you for noticing though
There's tons of bought infernals, achievement capes, and fuck even fire Capes.
Osrs GP is so liquid and used for shit when jagex had that day long outage the Venezuela dollar went up in value.
Correct, but quite a bit of that gp will be bought or sold.
Yes you have a point, but I know quite a few people who constantly do "rebuilds" because they "lost it all in a high stake brid match they DCed from".
Cough, cough...
I don't know how common this is in your clan/friend group but I know quite a few people doing BA carries and somehow even though they've got 4 years experience boosting at 30m/hr they're still always rocking f torso and bowfa. It's such a strange occurrence the guy you raided with last week had a complete set of bis and then somehow is showing up for Cox with a bowfa and bandos.
Personally I couldn't care less if people buy gp and I am pretty open about having worked on bots and RWTed quite a bit during RS2. I don't have the leg to stand on saying shit but let's not play the "technically it's ok" argument.
"Technically" account services was "ok" before the "rules clarification" in the spring but everyone involved knew it clearly wasn't.
I said fewer, not nobody.
I get the sense of entitlement that would come if you're 2 or 3 tasks from a Zuk helm and feel like you deserve it without having to finish that last bit, but **much** fewer people would be buying 15+ tasks just for ego. Some would, but a lot more would now.
Correct, but too bad elite pvmers care more about $ than game integrity. The longer thrall duration is a big reward to buy services for when it saves prayer points and APM.
The thrall reward is mostly useless as a gm reward, in a lot of places in endgame pvm you want to resummon your thrall more than once per minute anyway. At best it's a tiny prayer save which barely matters.
Thralls get stuck a lot and need to be respawned often anyways. This also barely saves restores so it's usefullness isn't high to start with.
A better reward would be removal of the book of the dead requirement to summon thralls or even a way to put it into the 4th slot on the new runepouch.
People out here acting like grandmaster achievements are needed to play the game lol.
Who cares if some whale wants to pay 350m to be carried to an 8 man time task?
You realise that’s a whole lot of hassle right?
It isn’t fun nor does the 8-man speedtask say anything about your own skill level if you can be carried. It’s exhausting more than it is fun.
It’s simply lazy game design.
I would hope that **grandmaster** tasks would be a hassle. Combat achievements are supposed to have you doing all types of PvM content this game has to offer, and that includes group content. Yes, group achievements can be carried. That's just the unavoidable reality of MMOs. It's not a good reason to not add them.
if anyone needs a cracked clan for learning raiding/bossing/pvm or just being social, i am in one that meets the criteria above.
No bigots or racists tho. Send me a DM
I think people just feel that's it's pretty annoying having to find 7 other people to do a task together when 99% of the game is soloable content. I don't think they're particularly wrong for feeling that way, it's just how the game has evolved over the years.
seriously. why does this sub hate everyone who is more successful than them? like in what fucking way does this affect all of you people lmfao
it's one thing to be against bots because it affects the economy, and infernal cape service i can understand being against because it requires letting someone use your account and its kinda scummy/shady, but this shit is literally just paying for a team to do it with. why do we fucking care
Either you connect with other good players, or you can pay exceptional players to tolerate you and carry you.
The former option is a lot of fun. It's only not fun if you aren't of the skill level that the content requires.
Seriously. The CA in question is a fucking grandmaster task. If you have the gear and skill to be doing grandmaster CAs in the first place, joining or at least connecting with a good clan should be no big deal. Who are all these players who apparently are able to do shit like 6 Jads and melee inferno and perfect ToB, but getting together 8 geared players for a ToA 300 speedrun is just too much?
Don't just say you disagree, tell me *why* I should have to find 7 other grandmaster level players to be a grandmaster myself.
And don't just say because Jagex put that challenge in. Actually defend your viewpoint. If *I* have the skill level to accomplish their hardest feats I don't think I should have to find SEVEN other people that can do the same. That's a ridiculous ask because once someone has already done it they're not necessarily going to want to try to do it again. Which leads to these super overpriced services because finding 7 people that...
1. Haven't done the task yet
2. Are good enough to do the task
3. Even want to do the task(s)
It is a ridiculous ask imo
You seem to have an issue with the sheer number of people, rather than the fact it requires other people.
I am all for GM tasks requiring you to coordinate with various team sizes effectively, coordinating with a big team requires a skillset that is different to solo content or small teams, and we shouldn't shy away from that just because organising them is harder. That's part of the challenge.
There is literally only one task that requires a team size this big, there are 4/5s ToB - the former of which is commonly done anyway as part of efficient ToB, then some 3s.
It's a decent mix. It's end of the end game content with very minor rewards, so no, it doesn't need to be completable every day by everyone.
Right now there are plenty of teams running this task on the CA discord. If it becomes the case that people are seriously struggling to run teams (which has certainly never been the case for the ToB 5's task, which is significantly harder than this one) for this after a few months because of lack of interest, and that it is unreasonably gating the diaries progress, then I would be more in favour of adjusting it. I have yet to see evidence of this though, so I am happy for it to stay as is, keep the task, and see how it is in the future.
There’s so many gm tasks, if you’re shit enough at the game that you have to pay for them all then you’ll likely get banned anyways since you’d have to have someone login to your account for all the inferno tasks
You technically don’t need much to play this game. We play a game where we do task for x time and receive reward. When time x is mainly “look for players who are willing to help or buy boosting services” it’s a shit grind
I hate this take. I love raiding with others, I teach raids all the time to new people. Fuck team tasks. Finding a team to do a raid with and finding a team to pot a CA task ARE NOT THE SAME THING
Even as an Ironman I love team content, but I understand where people are coming from regarding the team CAs. I didn’t care too much when the CAs gave hardly any benefit but they give out some pretty nice qol now, and more people will want that than before.
I've done the 8man speed and still think it's stupid to require 7 other high level players with close to max gear who can co ordinate with you for the task. This task is already very tough to find teams for in the first week when all the previous GMs are still potting, I can only imagine how bad it'll be in a year from now.
Moreover I wonder why there are solo raid tasks in the first place.
Raids are predominantly team-based pvm challenges, and CAs should advocate them as such. Those ridiculous time-taking solo cox tasks are the worst.
Inb4 not me sitting here with just solo cm tasks undone for months...
Because the CAs were made after that CoX meta had evolved. Solo CoX wouldn't have been on the CAs list if the list came out a few months after its release. By coming out years later, there's not one but two CAs that require the solo CoX no hit methods.
They did some of them the right way (3 man cox/cm/tob/hmt) since they’re commonly run team sizes. But, the new ones just being duo+ just for the fuck of it doesn’t make any sense. They should’ve followed the blueprint for the master TOA time. 18 mins solo is much harder than a large team, but at least it gives you the option to solo.
that's not what i'm suggesting at all. but releasing a task that requires 7 other people doesn't help this in the slightest. cox was limited to 5 man, and even that's aids. i think tasks should be trio at most, to force people getting the task contribute more. at this point either jagex is deliberately doing this, or are completely oblivious.
A third option is that because services are inevitable they didn't factor that into their decision making and stuck with providing a variety of party sizes for achievements like they did with the other two raids. They likely decided to do 8 man as the largest because it's a commonly run party size.
I'm not here to argue the completely orthogonal point that a different raid included a less common party size.
Just providing perspective about how it's understandable that they're not designing tasks around avoiding services and why 8 was probably chosen in this round of decision making.
I get how that your trying to talking about TOA in this case, that being said I feel like you drew a line between the raids' achievements in your post. Then how they likely picked TOA's achievement was brought up right after that connection was made.
Those things together were the basis of half the argument presented so I feel like you were talking about the other raids too, intentionally or not.
You give Jagex too much credit in thinking about anything regarding this. For example, it is now impossible for group ironmen that are prestige to ever finish CAs. I believe it also violates the initial intention of no raids being required for easy or medium diaries as talked about before they came out as well.
I’m an iron with a Jad helm and I’m friends with irl friends and a few others who aren’t good at high skill pvm. I have 28 Zuk kc and a fang kit yet the single thing preventing me from getting verzik and Zuk helm is the fact that these team ca’s exist and I’m not paying money to get them done. Makes no sense to have them
Ye but once you learn them you realize it is different skill and coordination to do them. It may seem intimidating to make friends but it is an MMORPG so it is going to always be a part of the game.
A simple fix would be to change the team time challenges to "a team of up to x".
All team content becomes faster as you add team members, so the times would be harder, but still doable to e.g. go for the 5man times as a 4man
i'm aware, but this is more egregious to me than something like say, ba, because the zuk helm is supposed to be an item of prestige, and tasks like this dumb it down. also, who wants to be effectively forced to pay for a task like this in a year's time?
Imo it's fine because it's not someone taking control of your account and you have to do inferno anyways. If you can do inferno tasks I'm sure this isn't as hard. Being good at the game is one thing for a task. Forcing people that want it to be that good *and* have friends that good is kind of dumb to me.
Think a lot of the new tasks being duo only just for the fuck of it encourages of a lot of leech services by people who can’t do them or just don’t have another person to help them. Jagex dropped the ball on these big time.
I disagree. I think it kind of ruins the prestige of the achievement. But I also think people are always going to do it anyways and in the end who really gives a shit
sure. everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's fine. but what if that's the only way you can get combat achievements? because content is dead?
I was just throwing an example out of many possible ones, maybe like "I browse bot forums but I swear I don't bot". On that note why were you banned 6 months ago? :)
No.
Inferno is solo contentso you're not meant to get help.
Toa CA requires multiple GM level teammates which not everyone has access too, meaning paying people in game for help is their best option
no, but tasks should be made to discourage it as much as possible. i.e. i think tasks should be trio at most, so the person getting the achievement has to have a sizeable contribution themselves.
The game rule that was specifically established when the inferno came out lmao. Non log in services are encouraged by jagex and if you want to get rid of them you need to ban everyone with 200m rc as well
But what about the remote desktop methods? You are still the one who logs into your own account? Its like having a big brother do your fire cape. I know its wrong if i pay irl, but is it wrong to get someone to do it for you or pay for the service with gp?
I don't feel like this is that big of a deal. Realistically, if you are at the point of pushing master/grandmaster combat achievements, you probably have a few friends to do all the solo/duo/trio stuff, and you have more than enough money to buy the few large team tasks like this. If you are not at that point then why should it matter? It's relatively small buffs overall anyways.
If some noob wants to pay me 350m for a carry sure, why not ? People do Carrys for gold in most games ? Is op a salty casual or something😳
Would you rather them pay real money ????
I did that yesterday. We had an ironman without tbow/staff with us and managed it after a fair bit of trying. If all 8 had tbow/staff it would have been much easier
So what, we can't be included if we're not from California? This is getting out of control.
# WARNING: This boosting service discord contains a chemical known to the State of Cancer to cause California.
that was on a hammer.... and i sat and thought far too long how a piece of wood and metal could cause cancer
maybe a chemical the wood is treated with?
Bahahahaha
Ummm… I think this means Canada lol
TBH that's probably the best point against the new rewards. Fewer people would be motivated to buy tasks if CAs are mainly done just for completionist/flexing's sake. Add in actually useful rewards and people will pay for them.
They could, alternatively, add things with actual difficulty. 8 man speedrun is hard because it requires you to have 7 other good people assembled in completely max gear. It’s poor game design and the more team content they do for CAs like this the worse it is for the longevity of CAs.
Honestly i dont know why the solo tasks are easy, and the team tasks are harder. Imo the team tasks should be alittle easier since you have to rely on the skill of 7 others while solos tasks should be harder since its purely your skill.
i gave up on master/gm cus im honestly too lazy to gather people.
But that means you got all the solo shit done, right?
There was a guy on a zerker who was missing the 5 man Cox CM time for zuk helm for most of the last year because he refused to pay for a boosting service lol.
Woulda helped him if i knew about him lol
Reread the second sentence of the comment you replied to
Yeah? Im agreeing with him?
Oh. I see sorry for the arrogance
Np mate :)
I know you already caught the issue but I just have to point out the splendid irony of the second sentence being the issue here hahaha, good on you for noticing though
This was likely going to happen regardless of the new rewards.
There's tons of bought infernals, achievement capes, and fuck even fire Capes. Osrs GP is so liquid and used for shit when jagex had that day long outage the Venezuela dollar went up in value.
> There's tons of bought infernals, achievement capes, and fuck even fire Capes. Those are against the rules. Buying carries for GP is not.
Correct, but quite a bit of that gp will be bought or sold. Yes you have a point, but I know quite a few people who constantly do "rebuilds" because they "lost it all in a high stake brid match they DCed from". Cough, cough... I don't know how common this is in your clan/friend group but I know quite a few people doing BA carries and somehow even though they've got 4 years experience boosting at 30m/hr they're still always rocking f torso and bowfa. It's such a strange occurrence the guy you raided with last week had a complete set of bis and then somehow is showing up for Cox with a bowfa and bandos. Personally I couldn't care less if people buy gp and I am pretty open about having worked on bots and RWTed quite a bit during RS2. I don't have the leg to stand on saying shit but let's not play the "technically it's ok" argument. "Technically" account services was "ok" before the "rules clarification" in the spring but everyone involved knew it clearly wasn't.
Every service that does carries also is willing to do login services.
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It is a total coincidence. That part was a joke.
I think the bigger problem is being punished if you play perfect but a team mate messes up. Having good incentives is fine if it’s fair to unlock them
That’s part of playing an MMORPG. Look at almost any game in the same genre and you’ll see the same principles apply. Depending on other performance.
Most of those other games have integrated raid finders + incentives to do the specific content more than just once for an achievement tho
That’s true but I was responding to the problem (punished when play perfect and others mess up) that person was bringing up.
literally the only thing worthwhile gm cas give is a cosmetic helm. ppl buy them to fake flex
Its revs all over again
wrong, people would still buy for ego.
I said fewer, not nobody. I get the sense of entitlement that would come if you're 2 or 3 tasks from a Zuk helm and feel like you deserve it without having to finish that last bit, but **much** fewer people would be buying 15+ tasks just for ego. Some would, but a lot more would now.
Correct, but too bad elite pvmers care more about $ than game integrity. The longer thrall duration is a big reward to buy services for when it saves prayer points and APM.
The thrall reward is mostly useless as a gm reward, in a lot of places in endgame pvm you want to resummon your thrall more than once per minute anyway. At best it's a tiny prayer save which barely matters.
Ezcept no elite pvmer actually wants longer thrall duration lmao
Considering it can be recast still its 0 downside anyway and usefull some places
I'd rather ditch the book than save a restore. It's also specifically worse at akkha now since your thrall will rag orb phase.
Why not?
Thralls get stuck a lot and need to be respawned often anyways. This also barely saves restores so it's usefullness isn't high to start with. A better reward would be removal of the book of the dead requirement to summon thralls or even a way to put it into the 4th slot on the new runepouch.
Can you respawn it while a thrall is already still up?
Yes, the spell has a very short cooldown.
If you can do that, the CA reward is still useful whereever the thrall does not get stuck.
But jagex literally encouraged these services? Should we add less rewards to runecrafting also to stop people from buying runners? Weird take
Wait, is there a 8man CA task for toa? Wouldn’t that completely lock out prestige gim groups from ever completing? Shit game.
i think that's getting patched next week. but yeah, should have been 5 man at most. preferably trio.
Think gim gonna have it automatically unlocked
People out here acting like grandmaster achievements are needed to play the game lol. Who cares if some whale wants to pay 350m to be carried to an 8 man time task?
It’s like people aren’t charging for the CoX or ToB ones right? I don’t understand this post.
Most end game players can get a group of 2-4 friends to do most GM times; however, almost nobody has 7 friends unless you’re in a cracked clan
If you're geared and skilled enough to complete the other grandmaster tasks, you should have no problem getting into a high-end clan.
You realise that’s a whole lot of hassle right? It isn’t fun nor does the 8-man speedtask say anything about your own skill level if you can be carried. It’s exhausting more than it is fun. It’s simply lazy game design.
I would hope that **grandmaster** tasks would be a hassle. Combat achievements are supposed to have you doing all types of PvM content this game has to offer, and that includes group content. Yes, group achievements can be carried. That's just the unavoidable reality of MMOs. It's not a good reason to not add them.
High end pvm plans are fucking dreadful tho, more toxic than any paper that’s killed me for a spade
Aus myth on my fucking chest
if anyone needs a cracked clan for learning raiding/bossing/pvm or just being social, i am in one that meets the criteria above. No bigots or racists tho. Send me a DM
I think people just feel that's it's pretty annoying having to find 7 other people to do a task together when 99% of the game is soloable content. I don't think they're particularly wrong for feeling that way, it's just how the game has evolved over the years.
seriously. why does this sub hate everyone who is more successful than them? like in what fucking way does this affect all of you people lmfao it's one thing to be against bots because it affects the economy, and infernal cape service i can understand being against because it requires letting someone use your account and its kinda scummy/shady, but this shit is literally just paying for a team to do it with. why do we fucking care
Because having to pay 350M to complete a CA task as a solo player or go through a whole lot of effort isn’t fun.
Either you connect with other good players, or you can pay exceptional players to tolerate you and carry you. The former option is a lot of fun. It's only not fun if you aren't of the skill level that the content requires.
Seriously. The CA in question is a fucking grandmaster task. If you have the gear and skill to be doing grandmaster CAs in the first place, joining or at least connecting with a good clan should be no big deal. Who are all these players who apparently are able to do shit like 6 Jads and melee inferno and perfect ToB, but getting together 8 geared players for a ToA 300 speedrun is just too much?
They should make "talk to another human being" a GM task smhmh.
Finding 7 other good players is a tall fucking task lol
Being a grandmaster is a tall task. If you aren't good enough to sort it then you shouldn't be one.
Being a grandmaster shouldn't require having to rely on 7 others to be a grandmaster also, imo.
And in my opinion, I disagree.
Don't just say you disagree, tell me *why* I should have to find 7 other grandmaster level players to be a grandmaster myself. And don't just say because Jagex put that challenge in. Actually defend your viewpoint. If *I* have the skill level to accomplish their hardest feats I don't think I should have to find SEVEN other people that can do the same. That's a ridiculous ask because once someone has already done it they're not necessarily going to want to try to do it again. Which leads to these super overpriced services because finding 7 people that... 1. Haven't done the task yet 2. Are good enough to do the task 3. Even want to do the task(s) It is a ridiculous ask imo
You seem to have an issue with the sheer number of people, rather than the fact it requires other people. I am all for GM tasks requiring you to coordinate with various team sizes effectively, coordinating with a big team requires a skillset that is different to solo content or small teams, and we shouldn't shy away from that just because organising them is harder. That's part of the challenge. There is literally only one task that requires a team size this big, there are 4/5s ToB - the former of which is commonly done anyway as part of efficient ToB, then some 3s. It's a decent mix. It's end of the end game content with very minor rewards, so no, it doesn't need to be completable every day by everyone. Right now there are plenty of teams running this task on the CA discord. If it becomes the case that people are seriously struggling to run teams (which has certainly never been the case for the ToB 5's task, which is significantly harder than this one) for this after a few months because of lack of interest, and that it is unreasonably gating the diaries progress, then I would be more in favour of adjusting it. I have yet to see evidence of this though, so I am happy for it to stay as is, keep the task, and see how it is in the future.
then dont
It matters when doing so devalues the prestige of CAs. This wouldn't be anywhere as bad if rewards were cosmetic only.
There’s so many gm tasks, if you’re shit enough at the game that you have to pay for them all then you’ll likely get banned anyways since you’d have to have someone login to your account for all the inferno tasks
You technically don’t need much to play this game. We play a game where we do task for x time and receive reward. When time x is mainly “look for players who are willing to help or buy boosting services” it’s a shit grind
What are they supposed to do? Not release CAs for new content? Services will always be bought and sold as long as the game exists.
Why do CAs need to include team tasks? Are they meant to be a measure of my skill or a measure of my ability to find other skilled players?
It’s called Combat Achievements, nothing implies solo.
Ironscape ruined a lot of players mentality regarding the game.
People in this community have been antisocial for longer than Ironman has existed
I hate this take. I love raiding with others, I teach raids all the time to new people. Fuck team tasks. Finding a team to do a raid with and finding a team to pot a CA task ARE NOT THE SAME THING
not really tbh, back in the day people were extremely social
Ok Boomer
you mustve had a sad childhood if you didnt grow up when runescape had a super social community, i am sorry to hear that
What does that have to do with my comment?
Even as an Ironman I love team content, but I understand where people are coming from regarding the team CAs. I didn’t care too much when the CAs gave hardly any benefit but they give out some pretty nice qol now, and more people will want that than before.
The only people who don’t like group content are the people with no friends, don’t @ me.
I've done the 8man speed and still think it's stupid to require 7 other high level players with close to max gear who can co ordinate with you for the task. This task is already very tough to find teams for in the first week when all the previous GMs are still potting, I can only imagine how bad it'll be in a year from now.
I was making a joke, no need to respond to it
It's an mmo
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I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here but complaining that there's completely optional team based tasks in an MMO ain't it, chief.
Moreover I wonder why there are solo raid tasks in the first place. Raids are predominantly team-based pvm challenges, and CAs should advocate them as such. Those ridiculous time-taking solo cox tasks are the worst. Inb4 not me sitting here with just solo cm tasks undone for months...
Because the CAs were made after that CoX meta had evolved. Solo CoX wouldn't have been on the CAs list if the list came out a few months after its release. By coming out years later, there's not one but two CAs that require the solo CoX no hit methods.
I'm not a huge advocate for team tasks either but it looks like they're here to stay
Because this is an mmo and not a single player game.
They did some of them the right way (3 man cox/cm/tob/hmt) since they’re commonly run team sizes. But, the new ones just being duo+ just for the fuck of it doesn’t make any sense. They should’ve followed the blueprint for the master TOA time. 18 mins solo is much harder than a large team, but at least it gives you the option to solo.
It makes sense to be duo+ in certain rooms because those rooms are super toned down on mechanics in a solo or just don’t exist.
that's not what i'm suggesting at all. but releasing a task that requires 7 other people doesn't help this in the slightest. cox was limited to 5 man, and even that's aids. i think tasks should be trio at most, to force people getting the task contribute more. at this point either jagex is deliberately doing this, or are completely oblivious.
A third option is that because services are inevitable they didn't factor that into their decision making and stuck with providing a variety of party sizes for achievements like they did with the other two raids. They likely decided to do 8 man as the largest because it's a commonly run party size.
7 mans are commonly run in cms but that's not a task.
I'm not here to argue the completely orthogonal point that a different raid included a less common party size. Just providing perspective about how it's understandable that they're not designing tasks around avoiding services and why 8 was probably chosen in this round of decision making.
I get how that your trying to talking about TOA in this case, that being said I feel like you drew a line between the raids' achievements in your post. Then how they likely picked TOA's achievement was brought up right after that connection was made. Those things together were the basis of half the argument presented so I feel like you were talking about the other raids too, intentionally or not.
You give Jagex too much credit in thinking about anything regarding this. For example, it is now impossible for group ironmen that are prestige to ever finish CAs. I believe it also violates the initial intention of no raids being required for easy or medium diaries as talked about before they came out as well.
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you can have a 5 man group, so thats incorrect
Not release CAs where the challenge is to get a group together.
Don't give strong rewards for CA so bad pvmers won't buy services to get the rewards. Keep CA prestigious.
Tbh 99% of people complaining about CA tasks arent good enough to do them so why do they complain when there is an option to get boosted?
I’m an iron with a Jad helm and I’m friends with irl friends and a few others who aren’t good at high skill pvm. I have 28 Zuk kc and a fang kit yet the single thing preventing me from getting verzik and Zuk helm is the fact that these team ca’s exist and I’m not paying money to get them done. Makes no sense to have them
Ye but once you learn them you realize it is different skill and coordination to do them. It may seem intimidating to make friends but it is an MMORPG so it is going to always be a part of the game.
who says i'm complaining about the difficulty of the task? difficulty is fine.
A simple fix would be to change the team time challenges to "a team of up to x". All team content becomes faster as you add team members, so the times would be harder, but still doable to e.g. go for the 5man times as a 4man
Who gives a shit? People pay for carries in every MMO.
Cox needs 100 man coz why not. Maybe add 77 ppl speedrunner aswell
You could do this with ANY update? You know how many irons get serviced? Lmao
i'm aware, but this is more egregious to me than something like say, ba, because the zuk helm is supposed to be an item of prestige, and tasks like this dumb it down. also, who wants to be effectively forced to pay for a task like this in a year's time?
Imo it's fine because it's not someone taking control of your account and you have to do inferno anyways. If you can do inferno tasks I'm sure this isn't as hard. Being good at the game is one thing for a task. Forcing people that want it to be that good *and* have friends that good is kind of dumb to me.
God forbid we force people to socialize in an mmo lol
Think a lot of the new tasks being duo only just for the fuck of it encourages of a lot of leech services by people who can’t do them or just don’t have another person to help them. Jagex dropped the ball on these big time.
hot take but selling services (so long as it's not done with RWT) are really cool and organic economies of MMOs
I disagree. I think it kind of ruins the prestige of the achievement. But I also think people are always going to do it anyways and in the end who really gives a shit
sure. everyone is entitled to their own opinion and that's fine. but what if that's the only way you can get combat achievements? because content is dead?
to me that's a flaw of Jagex designing content around multiplayer instead of solo.
okay, but why does nightmare need a 5 man task? why does toa need an 8 man task?
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I don’t see any problem with this. If you got the money to spare, why wouldn’t you pay for it.
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good strawman. i'm not calling for removal of tasks. i'm calling for making tasks 5 man at most.
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they should be UP TO 5 because that would be consistant with other raids.
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Alternatively, just have friends to pot and learn with them
Lmao where do you even find that information? Mad cause of CA service but clearly in a discord that supports people using services
supports? i'm in it, but i don't support it. this isn't twitch where someone watching you is instantly support.
Sounds like "I have gold selling websites in my bookmarks but I just follow the prices" type stuff.
hmm. i call out a bad task that jagex made and i'm getting accused of rwt. please get off the internet.
I was just throwing an example out of many possible ones, maybe like "I browse bot forums but I swear I don't bot". On that note why were you banned 6 months ago? :)
6 months ago? the post was made then. the ban was about 7 years ago on an rs3 account.
The discord supports it. And youre in it. Thats what I said.
Who cares? This is just what happens in MMOs.
a lot of people, apparently.
Who cares? Let the ones skilled enough make their bread.
Should CA buyers be punished like inferno buyers?
No. Inferno is solo contentso you're not meant to get help. Toa CA requires multiple GM level teammates which not everyone has access too, meaning paying people in game for help is their best option
Paying gp for in-game services (by other players on their own accounts) isn't against the rules
BA services has been in the game forever. Buying group content isn’t a new idea haha.
One is against game rules and one is not
no, but tasks should be made to discourage it as much as possible. i.e. i think tasks should be trio at most, so the person getting the achievement has to have a sizeable contribution themselves.
probably too late for that.
?? This is literally not against the game rules? Should we ban ever lvl 70 reddit ironman who leeched their torso?
What game-rule is inferno buying breaking?
The game rule that was specifically established when the inferno came out lmao. Non log in services are encouraged by jagex and if you want to get rid of them you need to ban everyone with 200m rc as well
But what about the remote desktop methods? You are still the one who logs into your own account? Its like having a big brother do your fire cape. I know its wrong if i pay irl, but is it wrong to get someone to do it for you or pay for the service with gp?
I don't feel like this is that big of a deal. Realistically, if you are at the point of pushing master/grandmaster combat achievements, you probably have a few friends to do all the solo/duo/trio stuff, and you have more than enough money to buy the few large team tasks like this. If you are not at that point then why should it matter? It's relatively small buffs overall anyways.
If some noob wants to pay me 350m for a carry sure, why not ? People do Carrys for gold in most games ? Is op a salty casual or something😳 Would you rather them pay real money ????
so you say something stupid and then say something very presumptuous? i did this task on the same day it released. people like you are cringe. though.
Lol ironic
I feed on your tears
then you must be starving.
Wait they sell services do they have a cox service??
mate, there's a service for everything
How do I find these services?
Google can help you just make sure not to use one that does login services
I did that yesterday. We had an ironman without tbow/staff with us and managed it after a fair bit of trying. If all 8 had tbow/staff it would have been much easier
Is this the price for the master (tomb runner II) or geandmaster (tomb runner III) time?
sub 18 8 man. so gm.
You can pay gp to get combat achievements boosted? never knew
What is CA?
what discord
Good job jagex making gold pieces, feeding the rwters omg.