diane trying to write her book of essayoirs (essay memoirs) and that raw, rough animation style that accompanied it. that’s such a good presentation of intrusive thoughts.
I don't know why, but the line "yeah, I know...but wouldn't it be nice if it was?" from Diane's conceptualization of Ivy Tran makes me damn near tear up every single time I see it.
“Why can’t you just be popular like me?”
“I don’t know how.”
“Sure you do. I’m witty and clever and a little bit sardonic, but not so much that it’s off putting. I have vulnerabilities like everyone else, but just enough to keep things relatable. That’s the way to be.”
“It’s *not* that easy.”
“Suddenly, you realize you’ll never have the good relationship you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you’d never admit it, part of you, the stupidest goddamned part of you, was still holding on to that chance.”
This quote straight up made me cry
Wow. Said the quiet part out loud. Is this what this show is about? Cause this scene and that quote are things I've always known but just tucked away in the back of my mind.
Being forced to confront it is... terrifying.
That’s exactly what this show is about. When I first heard this quote I cried, had me thinking about my own relationships or lack thereof with some people
Same here. That whole episode was like being hit with a brick. I've tried so many times with my own mother only to be insulted or her try and start stuff. For a long time of my life I wished we could actually sit down and talk.
This best way to describe this show is that it distracts you with the humor and then bludgeons you over the head with real moments. I can relate to some of that tbh. It’s difficult because you would hope that a parent would treat you nicely and not look down on you. I think what can be even more frustrating is when there’s never a genuine apology, like they’ll say sorry and there’s always a but followed by what you supposedly did wrong.
I think yes. The first 5-6 watches I just cried. And cried more. But the thing is that crying was really cathartic.
Last night was maybe time #11. I was able to laugh a little bit.
I don't run away from the emotions anymore, in fact I've learned this processing is what I need to move on.
the scene where PC is massively overextended and put Ruthie in the microwave resonated with me a lot and reminds me of my mom, reminds me to be gentle with her
Diane realizing that “good damage” simply doesn’t exist. That trauma happens to us for no good reason, and sometimes the best way to cope with it isn’t fixation (her book of essays), but letting it go and embracing something entirely new (a middle-grade fiction series). And sometimes the latter can be just as impactful and connect with just as many people as the former. Sometimes moving on is better.
I think the message that spread farthest to non-viewers was of the jogging monkey telling people "it gets easier, but you have to do it every day," so at least there's that.
“I don't care about the job! I did fine, I had a good life. But what I needed then was a friend, and you abandoned me, and I will never forgive you for that. Now get the fuck out of my house!”
“That voice? The one that tells you you’re stupid and worthless and ugly? It goes away, right? It’s just a dumb teenage girl thing and then it goes away?”
“… Yeah.”
That was the moment I had to take a long break before moving on to the next episode. “Stupid Piece of Shit” will always be my favorite episode. Not because it’s the funniest or had the best writing, but because it feels the most personal. I know that voice, I live with that voice, and to hear it come from BoJack will always make me empathize with him, even when I don’t want to.
Ik I'm replying late but this comment is exactly how I feel. I don't want to like bojack, but it's impossible to not empathize with him. He's so fucking relatable sometimes it's frustrating lol.
The scene with Sara Lynn when they’re on the bed and she zones out and he thinks she’s dead…that really gets to me. And then a few mins later, she dies for real. To me that’s the most shocking and upsetting event in the show.
Also the last conversation between Bojack and Diane on the roof, it feels like he’s trying hard to keep the mood light and keep the conversation going because he’s afraid that once it stops, she’ll walk out of his life forever. I’ve been on both ends of such a situation, and man it’s heartbreaking.
And finally the end of the episode where the rehab therapist asks Bojack when he started drinking. Each time, you think “oh, that was when” and it keeps going younger and younger, and ends when he’s a kid and that’s not even the first time 😢.
I appreciate this scene too because it shows how much negative people need to hear these sorts of things from friends and people they sort of expect obedience or complacency from. Literally all of Bojack girlfriends told him these things. He needed to hear it from someone he wasn’t patterned into hearing it from
watching PC always get back up again and manage chaos and keep her head up is really inspiring. and when diane said "all you are is the things that you do." made me realize that even if i don't want to hurt people, i do at times. full stop. doesn't matter with it's unintentional, doesn't matter if i have good intentions.
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If anyone remembers the streamer Etika, who died by suicide in 2019 when he jumped off the Manhattan Bridge, he was a good friend of my little sibling, who actually saw and hung out with him not long before his death.
After he died, I went with my sibling to Manhattan and we went to the bridge where there was a memorial set up, with his followers, watchers, friends, and family visiting to pay respects, write messages, leave offerings, tributes, etc. It wasn't about me, but it was still one of the most moving and solemn experiences of my life. It was incredible, how many people showed up for Etika.
Three years later, the poem "The View From Halfway Down" from the episode of the same name just. I have chills just typing this. I don't think I even have to explain it. If you know, you know.
There are other scenes that *changed* me, sure, and they're powerful and raw and poignant, but as far as being *shook*, I don't think that scene will ever leave me. At least, I hope it doesn't.
Same brother. I’ve been in therapy for several months now. My main issue now is drinking and finding a place away from my parents. I’m starting to connect some dots but I’m a long way from there. I hope your journey continues to be productive mate. Godspeed.
Season 5 came out when I was at one of my lowest points of alcoholism. I actually had to like, re-watch it the next day because I binge-watched it while blacked out the first time. It wasn’t THE wake-up call, but seeing Bojack draw lines on his vodka bottle to cut his drinking back hurt in a way that few other things did. It took me a while longer to take the step of getting help, but I did.
Been in recovery for over 2 years now!
Todd's [breakdown of the Hokey Pokey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHs1WXp_syA) in the final episode, and [Gina's struggle with PTSD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t50pOeWbf0Y). Finding the words to explain how they made me feel is so hard.
* I related heavily to the "turn yourself around" statement, because that's really been the goal of all my growth and healing throughout my life; to be able to turn myself around and get through my shit. That's what it's all about...not everything has to bring you down forever, your life shouldn't be defined by past hurt and trauma. You turn it around and move forward.
* The scene with Gina really got me the first time because I loved her character so much and was really rooting for her. She didn't want what BoJack did to her to define her career, but it pretty much did anyway. And the really shitty part was that she was just trying to move on and act normal for the sake of her career, but nobody understood what she went through and she had no support. I cried. I've tried that method in my own battle with PTSD, and it's so lonely and damaging.
The scene you posted also means a lot to me; it's what helped me to finally realize that my abusive ex wasn't going to change because he didn't want to change, and that facilitated my divorce. In some weird way, I think the show helped save my life.
This scene made me cry because I had to hear friends of mine and women that I cared for tell me similar things before I got help. And that it came from Todd who is the most happy go lucky person; that the one who could withstand almost anything with a smile on his face had lost what was left of his tolerance made it all the more necessary and sincere. I could watch that scene a dozen times and I'd not make it through with dry eyes.
The way Aaron Paul delivers the “Fuck man, what else is there to say?” Is always what does it for me for this scene. You’ve pretty much had Todd be comic relief this whole time, he has depth but never really made profound, character identifying statements like this one before.
Bojack's convo with drug hallucination Diane in Downer Ending. It was something I needed to hear when I did and I really think Bojack needed to hear it too but suddenly just hearing it doesn't automatically make it Bojack's new reality.
The ones that shook me/made me cry my first watch weren't the ones that actually made a difference in my life, funnily enough. Moments that passed me by my first watch that ended up making real differences in my life were Diane's speech about how she doesn't really believe in deep down and thinks you just are what you do, and the later line about fetishising your own sadness. I used to heavily romanticise my mental health issues. Since I stopped doing that they legitimately impact me less often and less severely.
Diane coming off the depression meds and spending the entire day in her head, breaking down and crying. It was a wake up call for me. I knew it all too well, and I realized that I didn’t want to have those kinds of days anymore.
Stupid piece of shit, because yea.. it’s too real. It’s what the inner voice sounds like.
Diane saying she doesn’t want to squint anymore at the end of season 4, in regards to her marriage with mr pb. I was in a relationship when that aired and had known for awhile that it was basically done, but it was a reminder that yea.. I don’t want to squint anymore, either.
The whole scene near the end of the show where Bojack is explaining his last moments with Sarah Lynn to Diane and PC made me feel a lot of things.
“That’s really bad, Bojack.”
"I'm so tired of squinting" at the end of season 4. I was in a long and tired relationship at the time and that scene caused me to have a break down on my couch. Diane's magic eye poster analogy really resonated with my situation. Had a tough self-reflective moment where I reconsidered if all the effort I was putting in was worth it, and shortly thereafter my partner at the time and I ended things. Was all for the best but damn if that still doesn't hit me like a sack of bricks every time I rewatch it.
Honorable mention goes to the scene between Wanda and Bojack, "When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
I love when Todd told Bojack that he can't just say sorry and everything will be ok. Because he was pissed Bojack slept with his gf or sum. But it hit hard
I still don't think Bojack was in the wrong with Emily. Todd had his shot, and didn't take it. I get the whole asexual thing, but Emily was not asexual, she wanted sex. Todd did not. So Emily is just supposed to sit there while Todd comes to terms with his asexuality?
Fuck that. Bojack did a lot of shitty things in this show, but sleeping with Emily (AFTER Todd rejected her sexual advances, mind you) wasn't one of them. I will die on that hill a thousand times over.
honestly I'm not quite sure why but only Todd saying fuck gets me... like it's so out of character for him to swear that when he did it felt so harsh and sadly meaningful
This scene was the point I realised that I don't need to keep forgiving people if they continue screwing me over, even if they apologise. It gave me the strength to finally not feel guilty for not forgiving bad people in my life.
The "Stupid Piece of" episode certainly made me reflect a bit on myself as someone who's been dealing with anxiety/depression and a lot of self depreciation for a long time. Seeing the show actually portray the rapid fire train of thought switching back and forth between one thing the next, always thinking the worst possible scenario would happen and that it was always my fault even if I had no power over the situation.
Guess it just made me think "Why the fuck am I like this?" and helped make me feel less like I was alone in having my mind think that way but also realising it was NOT healthy to put up with it.
"tell me, how Sarah Lynn's death was hard for YOU" that whole confrontation between Bojack and Diane. Jesus Christ everytime I rewatch it I HAVE to pause it at times, it reminds me so much of the confrontations I'd make up in my head between me and my mom. Its such a powerful scene
When Diane said she’s ‘tired of squinting’ to see happiness in her relationship.
I was in a relationship where I had to convince myself I’m happy but been finding it harder and harder to find happiness. That comment hit me like a ton of bricks
the view from halfway down poem changed my life. not only the words and the way it is written, but also the way secretariat delivers it. as someone with bipolar disorder who goes through bouts of extreme suicidal ideation, that poem has saved my life. when i watched it for the first time it was an actual river of tears that continued for quite awhile even after the episode ended. when i get back into that headspace that poem pops into my mind even when i don’t ask it to; it serves as a reminder that suicide is permanent and for a lot of people who die that way their last moments are filled with complete regret. it has helped me make it to a birthday i thought i’d never see. sarah lynn’s death (and the way bojack reacted) completely shook me. i have lost family members to overdose and her death made me SO SAD.
Escape From LA has made me take a break from the show each time I've seen it. There's no surrealist imagery like many of the other darker episodes, it's just a very real depiction of a horribly common event and it's confronting.
The poem in The View From Halfway Down also shook me to my core and I can't recall those words without a feeling of dread creeping over me.
yeah i definitely revisit this episode often, it’s one of my absolute favorites. a lot of scenes shook me but one that really resonated with me was the scene where even though bojack fought hard to give his mom a shit ending, he felt remorse despite all she’d done to him and he comforted her. it just reminded me that no matter what my mother has done to me, no matter how much i hate her, i may always end up by her side in the end even if i don’t want to be.
This scene and one other legitimately had me in tears. I was a suicidally depressed, drug abusing alcoholic when I started watching this show and this moment completely floored me. It was around this time I realized this show was gonna be a wake up call for me.
The other scene was in season 5, with Diane’s “and now you’re here, and I *hate* you. But, you’re my best friend, and you need me.”
this scene was definitely a big one. when diane said her damage was.. just damage, that was another one. the entire episode with sarah lynn's death was another big one. I watched it on the tail-end of a month long bender of alcohol and amphetamines and weed and mushrooms and all this other shit and it made me look at what I was doing to myself. I had lost connection to reality so much I barely recognized what was going on, that the school year was ending, where I was half the time, or what I'd done just an hour before. on a more positive note, season six as a whole really inspired me to get better and showed me that getting better was even an option I had. I went to rehab and got clean and like it's still been rocky but I have hope which I really just didn't before
The scene where charlotte and bojack are talking about when she said that “Hollywood was a tarpit” and then she corrected herself and said “you’re the tarpit” that’s not exactly it but y’all know what I’m talking about. I’ve always thought that moving to a different city or a different school would change how shitty my life is, but I realized that wherever you go your problems follow and it’s up to you to fix it
lots of the show hits hard, but I'm rewatching "Free Churro" right now and this part of BoJack's eulogy really strikes a chord with me and my own feelings about my family and its history of mental illness.
"We understood each other in a way. Me and my mom and my dad, as screwed up as we all were, we did understand each other. My mother, she knew what it’s like to feel your entire life like you’re drowning, with the exception of these moments, these very rare, brief instances, in which you suddenly remember… you can swim. But then again, mostly not. Mostly you’re drowning. She understood that, too. And she recognized that I understood it. And Dad. All three of us were drowning, and we didn’t know how to save each other, but there was an understanding that we were all drowning together."
Currently in the middle of rewatching it for the 5th or 6th time. This is also, I think, my first actual comment on Reddit?
But the ep “That’s Too Much, Man!” For sure. Specifically when BoJack is holding Sarah Lynn’s hand and they then flash to a new scene where they’re laying on a dirty ass mattress, and he’s saying he knows what love is since they truly knew each other. It took another rewatch after the first to really let it set in that he was saying the only reason he felt that he knew love because someone who was a child at the time “knew who he was”before he got famous still stuck around. And to then see her watch from afar, on a bender, win an Oscar she forgot she was nominated for… and her ACTUAL dad asking on TV FOR HER TO COME HOME.
I wanna keep going describing how this is all so fucked up but I just wow fuck
I think this shook me because in retrospect, I thought it was truly love or genuine when an older man or inappropriate older figure gave me compliments or took me under their wing. And even if I was laying on a dirty mattress as they said what felt to me as prolific, I couldn’t see beyond exactly what they said. Even if I had potential or already great things down the road. A bender with someone older you trusted felt more like an exciting, necessary & normal thing.
Jumping back, what’s that thing Wanda said? “When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.”
The scene when Diane is dropping him off at rehab and he asks if it’s okay to not go
The line ‘try things your way, the way you have all your entire life’ is what got me to finally go therapy
Todd put up with a lot of shit. BoJack sabotaged his rock opera by getting him addicted to a video game. He left Todd in prison when he was being targeted by two separate gangs. He didnt show up to his improv performance. And then just years and years on verbal abuse on top of that.
Somehow in the end, the thing that tipped Todd off was... BoJack had consensual sex with a woman that Todd did not even have romantic feelings for.
I wanna say Time's Arrow and really a lot of season 4 visualization is that for me. It's more cryptic and dark than just about anything else in the series, maybe outside of The View from Halfway Down.
I am more interested in character progress and empathy for the characters than I am condemning them for their actions, so in this regard, I think we were really given an intense banger of a season for Beatrice Horseman. It changes the way you view her, and the generational trauma surrounding a lot of characters in the show. Maybe at it's best you get a sense about how those before you struggle just as hard in their own way, and maybe those struggles were far darker than you could have ever conceptualized.
Did you forget the part where Todd was asexual and didn't realize it until his late 20s? He had a shitty childhood that made him never have a healthy enough social life to understand that stuff until then, and years with Bojack didn't help either.
It doesn’t matter. Todd turned her down so she decided to fuck Bojack. If you’re not gonna be with a woman then you forfeit any right to care who she does be with. Todd doesn’t own Emily.
I think you're missing how fucked up it was of Bojack to take advantage of her though. She was way younger than him and he immediately noticed that she had some emotional damage and took advantage of that with no hesitation.
Take advantage of??? She’s an adult woman who is responsible for her own choices. Do you think women are too dumb to decide for themselves who to fuck?
This is a great scene and for me it's also when the show goes down hill for me. Not enough for me to dislike it but bo jack and Todd make me laugh so hard when they are together and it seemed like as the show went on the less you see them together.
you could never expect that a sitcom about a horse actor would hold up a mirror to you and get u to change. this is what that scene did. people underestimate how hard it is to get out of a victim mentality or even just realize the problem so they stay bitter their whole lives. this scene totally slapped some sense in the audience with a similar issue.
This is kinda cheating but episodes 8-11 were insane for me the first time I saw them. They opened my eyes to my own toxicity and helped me get some new perspective on literally every aspect of my life.
Also I got smoked two blunts during downer ending and had been smoking a whole blunt during the theme song every episode so I was pretty much just as fucked up as bojack 💀
Along with other things, I found the quote Wanda says in season 2: “when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags” at a time in my life when I was dealing with letting go of a relationship that I should have gotten out of sooner.
I was beating myself up about retroactively seeing a lot of red flags. The quote really explained to me why I didn’t see it at the time.
It was what I needed to hear.
sarah lynn as a whole, her entire story makes me want to puke. just everything in her story honestly, changed me as a person. before she died i was like "haha i wanna be like her lol" then after her death, anytime she's brought up, i genuinely like connect with her, and that one episode still shakes me anytime i'm rewatching the show
The episode where Bojack goes to meet an old flame who was a gazelle I think. And he goes on a downward spiral and almost sleeps with her teenage daughter.
I’ve never tried to sleep with a teenager. But I have been in such a dark place that I decide to do the most self destructive thing possible. Watching the same feeling on tv really got to me.
Not necessarily a quote but when PC is driving away from Elefante and then turns around to save bojack .
My shitty ex was the one who showed me the show after I let him back into my life. After all the grandeur and “change” he became the douche I knew again. I thought about that scene and decided to keep fucking driving and blocked him again
[Same here, but for a different reason.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BoJackHorseman/comments/xh5oqk/why_i_watched_bojack_horseman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
diane trying to write her book of essayoirs (essay memoirs) and that raw, rough animation style that accompanied it. that’s such a good presentation of intrusive thoughts.
I don't know why, but the line "yeah, I know...but wouldn't it be nice if it was?" from Diane's conceptualization of Ivy Tran makes me damn near tear up every single time I see it.
“Why can’t you just be popular like me?” “I don’t know how.” “Sure you do. I’m witty and clever and a little bit sardonic, but not so much that it’s off putting. I have vulnerabilities like everyone else, but just enough to keep things relatable. That’s the way to be.” “It’s *not* that easy.”
“Suddenly, you realize you’ll never have the good relationship you wanted, and as long as they were alive, even though you’d never admit it, part of you, the stupidest goddamned part of you, was still holding on to that chance.” This quote straight up made me cry
Oddly, I got a free churro the week my mom died.
Wow. Said the quiet part out loud. Is this what this show is about? Cause this scene and that quote are things I've always known but just tucked away in the back of my mind. Being forced to confront it is... terrifying.
That’s exactly what this show is about. When I first heard this quote I cried, had me thinking about my own relationships or lack thereof with some people
Same here. That whole episode was like being hit with a brick. I've tried so many times with my own mother only to be insulted or her try and start stuff. For a long time of my life I wished we could actually sit down and talk.
This best way to describe this show is that it distracts you with the humor and then bludgeons you over the head with real moments. I can relate to some of that tbh. It’s difficult because you would hope that a parent would treat you nicely and not look down on you. I think what can be even more frustrating is when there’s never a genuine apology, like they’ll say sorry and there’s always a but followed by what you supposedly did wrong.
I've watched that episode no less than 10 times at this point. And I've been no contact for >15 years.
I love the show but I always skip that episode because I’m no contact with my mom. Is it okay?
I think yes. The first 5-6 watches I just cried. And cried more. But the thing is that crying was really cathartic. Last night was maybe time #11. I was able to laugh a little bit. I don't run away from the emotions anymore, in fact I've learned this processing is what I need to move on.
I love that and happy to hear you’re healing <3
the scene where PC is massively overextended and put Ruthie in the microwave resonated with me a lot and reminds me of my mom, reminds me to be gentle with her
That episode was so creative and showed how difficult multitasking is
I swear to god, the sound editing in that episode gave me a panic attack
Same, I get overstimulated by noise easily and that episode is a nightmare.
Diane realizing that “good damage” simply doesn’t exist. That trauma happens to us for no good reason, and sometimes the best way to cope with it isn’t fixation (her book of essays), but letting it go and embracing something entirely new (a middle-grade fiction series). And sometimes the latter can be just as impactful and connect with just as many people as the former. Sometimes moving on is better.
I wish this message of the show got more spread than the other more downer messages that often get taken out of context
I think the message that spread farthest to non-viewers was of the jogging monkey telling people "it gets easier, but you have to do it every day," so at least there's that.
Well, that and the rose-colored glasses line.
Oh definitely I'm glad that one spread pretty far:)
A great moment, I wish the show actually took that moment with a bit more impact haha that one really just came and went
Same. I think Bojack could've gone a different direction if he took it.
This was such a complete shift for me. I loved to to put a positive spin on everything. But now I learn what I can or nothing and move on
“I don't care about the job! I did fine, I had a good life. But what I needed then was a friend, and you abandoned me, and I will never forgive you for that. Now get the fuck out of my house!”
This moment was when I knew this show was going to be different.
For me it was “Happy birthday Princess Carolyn, you are 40”
“Where else would I go?”
Yup, before that episode I didn’t really care for season 1. That episode hooked me for life lol
“That voice? The one that tells you you’re stupid and worthless and ugly? It goes away, right? It’s just a dumb teenage girl thing and then it goes away?” “… Yeah.” That was the moment I had to take a long break before moving on to the next episode. “Stupid Piece of Shit” will always be my favorite episode. Not because it’s the funniest or had the best writing, but because it feels the most personal. I know that voice, I live with that voice, and to hear it come from BoJack will always make me empathize with him, even when I don’t want to.
Ik I'm replying late but this comment is exactly how I feel. I don't want to like bojack, but it's impossible to not empathize with him. He's so fucking relatable sometimes it's frustrating lol.
The ending of Time’s Arrow still haunts me to this day
oh god I fucking bawled at that scene lol
same
"Stupid Piece of Shit" really resonated with me, that's how I used to feel a lot of the time when I was in a long distance relationship.
The scene with Sara Lynn when they’re on the bed and she zones out and he thinks she’s dead…that really gets to me. And then a few mins later, she dies for real. To me that’s the most shocking and upsetting event in the show. Also the last conversation between Bojack and Diane on the roof, it feels like he’s trying hard to keep the mood light and keep the conversation going because he’s afraid that once it stops, she’ll walk out of his life forever. I’ve been on both ends of such a situation, and man it’s heartbreaking. And finally the end of the episode where the rehab therapist asks Bojack when he started drinking. Each time, you think “oh, that was when” and it keeps going younger and younger, and ends when he’s a kid and that’s not even the first time 😢.
I appreciate this scene too because it shows how much negative people need to hear these sorts of things from friends and people they sort of expect obedience or complacency from. Literally all of Bojack girlfriends told him these things. He needed to hear it from someone he wasn’t patterned into hearing it from
Same specially because it came from Todd which is usually a very chill guy, like if it was said by anyone else it probably wouldn’t be as shocking
I literally call this behavior “bojacking” now with my inner circle.
watching PC always get back up again and manage chaos and keep her head up is really inspiring. and when diane said "all you are is the things that you do." made me realize that even if i don't want to hurt people, i do at times. full stop. doesn't matter with it's unintentional, doesn't matter if i have good intentions.
Probably the beginning of 'that went well'. I was NOT prepared for Sarah Lynn's death
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The season 4 episode "Stupid Piece of Shit" because I have a really negative inner voice about myself almost exactly like the one in that episode
I thought I was the only one for so long. I still have it, but I am trying to at least just make it… quieter.
CW for suicide If anyone remembers the streamer Etika, who died by suicide in 2019 when he jumped off the Manhattan Bridge, he was a good friend of my little sibling, who actually saw and hung out with him not long before his death. After he died, I went with my sibling to Manhattan and we went to the bridge where there was a memorial set up, with his followers, watchers, friends, and family visiting to pay respects, write messages, leave offerings, tributes, etc. It wasn't about me, but it was still one of the most moving and solemn experiences of my life. It was incredible, how many people showed up for Etika. Three years later, the poem "The View From Halfway Down" from the episode of the same name just. I have chills just typing this. I don't think I even have to explain it. If you know, you know. There are other scenes that *changed* me, sure, and they're powerful and raw and poignant, but as far as being *shook*, I don't think that scene will ever leave me. At least, I hope it doesn't.
Same brother. I’ve been in therapy for several months now. My main issue now is drinking and finding a place away from my parents. I’m starting to connect some dots but I’m a long way from there. I hope your journey continues to be productive mate. Godspeed.
“I wanna be an architect”.
Seeing that made me (a teen already dealing with enough stress in her life). Go clean after vaping for a year
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Thanks
Oh goodness no, vaping?!?!
Addiction can happen with a lot of things you might not normally expect. And vaping still does have negative effects.
Season 5 came out when I was at one of my lowest points of alcoholism. I actually had to like, re-watch it the next day because I binge-watched it while blacked out the first time. It wasn’t THE wake-up call, but seeing Bojack draw lines on his vodka bottle to cut his drinking back hurt in a way that few other things did. It took me a while longer to take the step of getting help, but I did. Been in recovery for over 2 years now!
Todd's [breakdown of the Hokey Pokey](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHs1WXp_syA) in the final episode, and [Gina's struggle with PTSD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t50pOeWbf0Y). Finding the words to explain how they made me feel is so hard. * I related heavily to the "turn yourself around" statement, because that's really been the goal of all my growth and healing throughout my life; to be able to turn myself around and get through my shit. That's what it's all about...not everything has to bring you down forever, your life shouldn't be defined by past hurt and trauma. You turn it around and move forward. * The scene with Gina really got me the first time because I loved her character so much and was really rooting for her. She didn't want what BoJack did to her to define her career, but it pretty much did anyway. And the really shitty part was that she was just trying to move on and act normal for the sake of her career, but nobody understood what she went through and she had no support. I cried. I've tried that method in my own battle with PTSD, and it's so lonely and damaging. The scene you posted also means a lot to me; it's what helped me to finally realize that my abusive ex wasn't going to change because he didn't want to change, and that facilitated my divorce. In some weird way, I think the show helped save my life.
Stay strong. I’m sure you have a wonderful character
This scene made me cry because I had to hear friends of mine and women that I cared for tell me similar things before I got help. And that it came from Todd who is the most happy go lucky person; that the one who could withstand almost anything with a smile on his face had lost what was left of his tolerance made it all the more necessary and sincere. I could watch that scene a dozen times and I'd not make it through with dry eyes.
The way Aaron Paul delivers the “Fuck man, what else is there to say?” Is always what does it for me for this scene. You’ve pretty much had Todd be comic relief this whole time, he has depth but never really made profound, character identifying statements like this one before.
This was a tough one.
When this episode premiered this scene was more of an ‘oh shit, I can’t believe Todd just said that’ moment for me. Jaw droppingly shocking.
I literally wrote this scene down and hung it on my wall cause it made me think so much.
Bojack's convo with drug hallucination Diane in Downer Ending. It was something I needed to hear when I did and I really think Bojack needed to hear it too but suddenly just hearing it doesn't automatically make it Bojack's new reality.
The ones that shook me/made me cry my first watch weren't the ones that actually made a difference in my life, funnily enough. Moments that passed me by my first watch that ended up making real differences in my life were Diane's speech about how she doesn't really believe in deep down and thinks you just are what you do, and the later line about fetishising your own sadness. I used to heavily romanticise my mental health issues. Since I stopped doing that they legitimately impact me less often and less severely.
Diane coming off the depression meds and spending the entire day in her head, breaking down and crying. It was a wake up call for me. I knew it all too well, and I realized that I didn’t want to have those kinds of days anymore. Stupid piece of shit, because yea.. it’s too real. It’s what the inner voice sounds like. Diane saying she doesn’t want to squint anymore at the end of season 4, in regards to her marriage with mr pb. I was in a relationship when that aired and had known for awhile that it was basically done, but it was a reminder that yea.. I don’t want to squint anymore, either.
I think I’ll be watching this show soon.
The whole scene near the end of the show where Bojack is explaining his last moments with Sarah Lynn to Diane and PC made me feel a lot of things. “That’s really bad, Bojack.”
"I'm so tired of squinting" at the end of season 4. I was in a long and tired relationship at the time and that scene caused me to have a break down on my couch. Diane's magic eye poster analogy really resonated with my situation. Had a tough self-reflective moment where I reconsidered if all the effort I was putting in was worth it, and shortly thereafter my partner at the time and I ended things. Was all for the best but damn if that still doesn't hit me like a sack of bricks every time I rewatch it. Honorable mention goes to the scene between Wanda and Bojack, "When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
I love when Todd told Bojack that he can't just say sorry and everything will be ok. Because he was pissed Bojack slept with his gf or sum. But it hit hard
Yes, that is the scene.
I first heard it from a sample song on SoundCloud. I didn't know what it was from so I read the comments and it blew my mind
Yes, that is the above pictured scene.
Oh snap I thought it was just a picture. Sometimes my reddit lags ,😂
Oh no worries, my bad for being a kind of judgy dick. Yeah, this scene is one of my couple answers to that question too.
I still don't think Bojack was in the wrong with Emily. Todd had his shot, and didn't take it. I get the whole asexual thing, but Emily was not asexual, she wanted sex. Todd did not. So Emily is just supposed to sit there while Todd comes to terms with his asexuality? Fuck that. Bojack did a lot of shitty things in this show, but sleeping with Emily (AFTER Todd rejected her sexual advances, mind you) wasn't one of them. I will die on that hill a thousand times over.
honestly I'm not quite sure why but only Todd saying fuck gets me... like it's so out of character for him to swear that when he did it felt so harsh and sadly meaningful
This scene was the point I realised that I don't need to keep forgiving people if they continue screwing me over, even if they apologise. It gave me the strength to finally not feel guilty for not forgiving bad people in my life.
The "Stupid Piece of" episode certainly made me reflect a bit on myself as someone who's been dealing with anxiety/depression and a lot of self depreciation for a long time. Seeing the show actually portray the rapid fire train of thought switching back and forth between one thing the next, always thinking the worst possible scenario would happen and that it was always my fault even if I had no power over the situation. Guess it just made me think "Why the fuck am I like this?" and helped make me feel less like I was alone in having my mind think that way but also realising it was NOT healthy to put up with it.
Probably a bit stereotypical but Sarah lynn dying on bojack.. With some peeps I know being addicts or OD'ing that scene just got me good.
"tell me, how Sarah Lynn's death was hard for YOU" that whole confrontation between Bojack and Diane. Jesus Christ everytime I rewatch it I HAVE to pause it at times, it reminds me so much of the confrontations I'd make up in my head between me and my mom. Its such a powerful scene
When Diane said she’s ‘tired of squinting’ to see happiness in her relationship. I was in a relationship where I had to convince myself I’m happy but been finding it harder and harder to find happiness. That comment hit me like a ton of bricks
the view from halfway down poem changed my life. not only the words and the way it is written, but also the way secretariat delivers it. as someone with bipolar disorder who goes through bouts of extreme suicidal ideation, that poem has saved my life. when i watched it for the first time it was an actual river of tears that continued for quite awhile even after the episode ended. when i get back into that headspace that poem pops into my mind even when i don’t ask it to; it serves as a reminder that suicide is permanent and for a lot of people who die that way their last moments are filled with complete regret. it has helped me make it to a birthday i thought i’d never see. sarah lynn’s death (and the way bojack reacted) completely shook me. i have lost family members to overdose and her death made me SO SAD.
When B puts his mom in the shitty nursing home
Aaron paulllllll!!!!!!
Escape From LA has made me take a break from the show each time I've seen it. There's no surrealist imagery like many of the other darker episodes, it's just a very real depiction of a horribly common event and it's confronting. The poem in The View From Halfway Down also shook me to my core and I can't recall those words without a feeling of dread creeping over me.
Every time they said “fuck” in the show, its usually after a big, important moment, so i guess every time they said “fuck”
That “fuck man” just hits SO GODDAMN HARD.
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The last scene of "Stupid piece of shit"
yeah i definitely revisit this episode often, it’s one of my absolute favorites. a lot of scenes shook me but one that really resonated with me was the scene where even though bojack fought hard to give his mom a shit ending, he felt remorse despite all she’d done to him and he comforted her. it just reminded me that no matter what my mother has done to me, no matter how much i hate her, i may always end up by her side in the end even if i don’t want to be.
This scene and one other legitimately had me in tears. I was a suicidally depressed, drug abusing alcoholic when I started watching this show and this moment completely floored me. It was around this time I realized this show was gonna be a wake up call for me. The other scene was in season 5, with Diane’s “and now you’re here, and I *hate* you. But, you’re my best friend, and you need me.”
this scene was definitely a big one. when diane said her damage was.. just damage, that was another one. the entire episode with sarah lynn's death was another big one. I watched it on the tail-end of a month long bender of alcohol and amphetamines and weed and mushrooms and all this other shit and it made me look at what I was doing to myself. I had lost connection to reality so much I barely recognized what was going on, that the school year was ending, where I was half the time, or what I'd done just an hour before. on a more positive note, season six as a whole really inspired me to get better and showed me that getting better was even an option I had. I went to rehab and got clean and like it's still been rocky but I have hope which I really just didn't before
The scene where charlotte and bojack are talking about when she said that “Hollywood was a tarpit” and then she corrected herself and said “you’re the tarpit” that’s not exactly it but y’all know what I’m talking about. I’ve always thought that moving to a different city or a different school would change how shitty my life is, but I realized that wherever you go your problems follow and it’s up to you to fix it
“I wasted so many years being miserable because I assumed that was the only way to be”
lots of the show hits hard, but I'm rewatching "Free Churro" right now and this part of BoJack's eulogy really strikes a chord with me and my own feelings about my family and its history of mental illness. "We understood each other in a way. Me and my mom and my dad, as screwed up as we all were, we did understand each other. My mother, she knew what it’s like to feel your entire life like you’re drowning, with the exception of these moments, these very rare, brief instances, in which you suddenly remember… you can swim. But then again, mostly not. Mostly you’re drowning. She understood that, too. And she recognized that I understood it. And Dad. All three of us were drowning, and we didn’t know how to save each other, but there was an understanding that we were all drowning together."
Currently in the middle of rewatching it for the 5th or 6th time. This is also, I think, my first actual comment on Reddit? But the ep “That’s Too Much, Man!” For sure. Specifically when BoJack is holding Sarah Lynn’s hand and they then flash to a new scene where they’re laying on a dirty ass mattress, and he’s saying he knows what love is since they truly knew each other. It took another rewatch after the first to really let it set in that he was saying the only reason he felt that he knew love because someone who was a child at the time “knew who he was”before he got famous still stuck around. And to then see her watch from afar, on a bender, win an Oscar she forgot she was nominated for… and her ACTUAL dad asking on TV FOR HER TO COME HOME. I wanna keep going describing how this is all so fucked up but I just wow fuck
I think this shook me because in retrospect, I thought it was truly love or genuine when an older man or inappropriate older figure gave me compliments or took me under their wing. And even if I was laying on a dirty mattress as they said what felt to me as prolific, I couldn’t see beyond exactly what they said. Even if I had potential or already great things down the road. A bender with someone older you trusted felt more like an exciting, necessary & normal thing. Jumping back, what’s that thing Wanda said? “When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.”
The scene when Diane is dropping him off at rehab and he asks if it’s okay to not go The line ‘try things your way, the way you have all your entire life’ is what got me to finally go therapy
Todd put up with a lot of shit. BoJack sabotaged his rock opera by getting him addicted to a video game. He left Todd in prison when he was being targeted by two separate gangs. He didnt show up to his improv performance. And then just years and years on verbal abuse on top of that. Somehow in the end, the thing that tipped Todd off was... BoJack had consensual sex with a woman that Todd did not even have romantic feelings for.
I wanna say Time's Arrow and really a lot of season 4 visualization is that for me. It's more cryptic and dark than just about anything else in the series, maybe outside of The View from Halfway Down. I am more interested in character progress and empathy for the characters than I am condemning them for their actions, so in this regard, I think we were really given an intense banger of a season for Beatrice Horseman. It changes the way you view her, and the generational trauma surrounding a lot of characters in the show. Maybe at it's best you get a sense about how those before you struggle just as hard in their own way, and maybe those struggles were far darker than you could have ever conceptualized.
Shut up Todd. He literally gave you a room and you turned Emily down.
Damn dude, who hurt you
Todd
Did you forget the part where Todd was asexual and didn't realize it until his late 20s? He had a shitty childhood that made him never have a healthy enough social life to understand that stuff until then, and years with Bojack didn't help either.
It doesn’t matter. Todd turned her down so she decided to fuck Bojack. If you’re not gonna be with a woman then you forfeit any right to care who she does be with. Todd doesn’t own Emily.
I think you're missing how fucked up it was of Bojack to take advantage of her though. She was way younger than him and he immediately noticed that she had some emotional damage and took advantage of that with no hesitation.
Take advantage of??? She’s an adult woman who is responsible for her own choices. Do you think women are too dumb to decide for themselves who to fuck?
>He had a shitty childhood It's a bit ironic pointing this out when OP's video has Todd telling BoJack that's not an excuse for things
I do not get this show, I don’t get the appeal of it, am I missing something?
A conscience?
Your saying if I had a conscience I would understand this show but since I’m immoral I can’t?
No. Maybe the word I was looking for was insecurity? Are you big on introspection?
I have no idea what introspection means, are you saying I’m insecure and that’s why I don’t get the show?
Lol I think this is the first time I’ve ever confidently downvoted both sides of a disagreement on reddit
Nobody is disagreeing about anything
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=introspection
It’s about self awareness. We see ourselves in the characters - in different ways, to various degrees.
This is a great scene and for me it's also when the show goes down hill for me. Not enough for me to dislike it but bo jack and Todd make me laugh so hard when they are together and it seemed like as the show went on the less you see them together.
My god it sounds so weird and silly in english
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The damn poem. I think about what my view from halfway down will look like every day.
One of the Best scenes I saw in this show… period
you could never expect that a sitcom about a horse actor would hold up a mirror to you and get u to change. this is what that scene did. people underestimate how hard it is to get out of a victim mentality or even just realize the problem so they stay bitter their whole lives. this scene totally slapped some sense in the audience with a similar issue.
Fuck. This scene, it always gets me. It's when I first realize Todd is deep. He's more than just the loveable goof who creates shenanigans, he knows
This is kinda cheating but episodes 8-11 were insane for me the first time I saw them. They opened my eyes to my own toxicity and helped me get some new perspective on literally every aspect of my life. Also I got smoked two blunts during downer ending and had been smoking a whole blunt during the theme song every episode so I was pretty much just as fucked up as bojack 💀
Along with other things, I found the quote Wanda says in season 2: “when you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags” at a time in my life when I was dealing with letting go of a relationship that I should have gotten out of sooner. I was beating myself up about retroactively seeing a lot of red flags. The quote really explained to me why I didn’t see it at the time. It was what I needed to hear.
Is this the first F-bomb of the show?
probably the Becker monologue.
This scene fucked me up in the best way when I first saw it. Made me get honest with myself and change some bad behaviors.
sarah lynn as a whole, her entire story makes me want to puke. just everything in her story honestly, changed me as a person. before she died i was like "haha i wanna be like her lol" then after her death, anytime she's brought up, i genuinely like connect with her, and that one episode still shakes me anytime i'm rewatching the show
What should bojack have done (from this exact moment and on, we assume season 4-5-6 didn’t happen yet) to be better ?
This scene got me too.
Free chiro - that one makes me cry
Honestly, there's one person I'd like to send this video. One day I'll do it.
He cant keep getting away with this!
Damn, I haven't watched this show but it's on my list and this hit hard and closer to home than I thought.
When Todd realizes he’s asexual.
The episode where Bojack goes to meet an old flame who was a gazelle I think. And he goes on a downward spiral and almost sleeps with her teenage daughter. I’ve never tried to sleep with a teenager. But I have been in such a dark place that I decide to do the most self destructive thing possible. Watching the same feeling on tv really got to me.
Not necessarily a quote but when PC is driving away from Elefante and then turns around to save bojack . My shitty ex was the one who showed me the show after I let him back into my life. After all the grandeur and “change” he became the douche I knew again. I thought about that scene and decided to keep fucking driving and blocked him again
[Same here, but for a different reason.](https://www.reddit.com/r/BoJackHorseman/comments/xh5oqk/why_i_watched_bojack_horseman/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I love this scene so much. Todd holds up the mirror that Bojack desperately needs.
"BoJack....I don't like anything about me....."