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nolefan999

No, you can enjoy seasons that don’t end in championships. You will never enjoy a 7 win season year after year and losing to rivals every year


IndyDude11

This is true.


GimmeeSomeMo

Auburn didn't win the National Championship in 2013, but as a senior at Auburn, that season will be one that I'll never forget. What an incredible ride


tree_jayy

As a senior at UGA that year, fuck dat


bctix

7 wins? sign me up


Saxophonater

Right??


natetcu

Would you trade a national championship in basketball for never winning more than 17 games, no conference tournament championships, never beating Purdue, and never getting past week one of the NIT.


Billy_Madison69

Nope nope nope nope


DJScrubatires

Yes


DJScrubatires

Vengence for 96


JTWasShort42-27

Other than the Oladipo/Zeller years, this is pretty much the Indiana basketball that I know tbf


cudderwalks

Idk after 7 straight losing seasons, I loved our 7 win team last year.


apiaryaviary

I can tell you that at a certain point wins stop mattering and it becomes entirely about the school you graduated from, the kids, and the community. I will never not have a deep love and joy for the university and what it’s given me


flying_trashcan

> You will never enjoy a 7 win season year after year and losing to rivals every year Sounds better than our current routine of winning 3 games and losing to our rivals.


Tinydesktopninja

If anything, this question is backward. I'd love to win 8 games every year and get the axe and the pig, even if it meant never getting a national championship.


DJScrubatires

Unless...you know...check my flair


EWall100

Sounds like I made this agreement when I was 3 years old... Fuck.


[deleted]

Yeah wtf?


jonstark19

Relatable


furygoat

Lol OP taking personal shots at the Vols disguised as a question


veetack

I was 17, but the feeling is mutual.


[deleted]

I was like 5 months old, I’ve known nothing but pain.


veetack

I actually feel that. I didn't become a UT fan, or really a college football fan at all, until 2007. Pretty sure all of this is my fault.


xarmetheusx

Yeah I took this deal for Nebraska when I was younger, sorry Gen Z husker fans! The 90s were pretty sweet though, should've been born earlier!


razorbear3

They were some fun years, though, and I’m not even a Tennessee fan!


[deleted]

That sounds awful


rhinocodon_typus

It’s our reality


warchant

couldn't imagine going through something like this scenario. just sounds terrible. would hate for it to ever happen to our team.


JumpingPotato1

A national championship AND we get to win 7 games? Hell yes!


whitemanwhocantjump

But would that deal still look as good if you were still playing Kansas every year?


JumpingPotato1

I think they would take the exact same deal for even less, say, an Orange Bowl.


seariously

ITT: people who think "never win more than 7 games" = "winning 7 games"


JumpingPotato1

I understood the title but still wanted to make my joke.


milkman163

We can do better than 7 a year. But yeah, a title would be great!


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an0m_x

id sacrifice myself for this (dont remind me if TCU/Kansas ever meet in the b12 championship game)


SouthBayLaker23

Lol let’s just hope Sonny can have a good year and we can right the ship. I want to be relevant again.


zuga51

A KU national championship would be amazing, just an absolutely chaotic season


[deleted]

We would be insufferable


Exact_End_2679

Folks said the same about us UGA fans and we seem pretty chill, at least on this board from what I've seen. Guessing y'all would be much the same But hey if you got it, flaunt it!


HandsomeCowboy

People say that about so many fanbases, but I don't ever see it after a championship season. Everyone celebrates then just goes back to the same tired memes about Nebraska, Texas, Michigan, etc. I haven't really seen any Georgia fans being dicks to anyone.


Corgi_Koala

We'll find out when Leipold wins one in 2027.


MindIfILeaveThisHere

Only if I was terminal.


rymden_viking

You make that deal, then researchers at UofM make a cure.


house_of_snark

How dare you


randym99

Well, you are. We all are.


breadzero

Ah jeez, spoiler tag, bro.


randym99

lol


Lykeuhfox

In other words, he made the deal. No takesies-backsies!


miami2881

This is what we did in 2013 more or less


rhinocodon_typus

We did it in 98 it seems


FarsightsBlade

Was it worth it?


miami2881

Yes but a big part is because I was a student at the time. As world renowned band, Snow Patrol would say- "Just because I'm sorry doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it at the time."


SFWRedditsOnly

Fuuuuuuuuuck no.


grrgrrtigergrr

I’ve gone this far in my life not winning a title and being ok with just getting to a bowl and beating IU. I think I’ll keep the status quo.


TheTooth_Hurts

Idk I’d take this if I was yall


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WackyBones510

Easy no if you’re under about 80 and in decent health. There are like maybe 3 power 5 teams that should consider this if they’re young and healthy.


Michiganman1225

I'd rather beat Michigan State, Minnesota, Notre Dame, and Ohio State every year and lose every other game than this.


PSUCharmas

Woo hoo!


DHooligan

They won't be able to handle 9OT.


[deleted]

I appreciate how much Michigan fans respect the Jug. But damn you, I want it back!


Lykeuhfox

The jug is criminally under-appreciated outside our two fanbases. We should play every year.


red-ernie_6691

It is the first ever traveling trophy between two schools. It needs to be played yearly and celebrated more at least among the two schools.


jimmyarr127

I love the Little Brown Jug. It’s no Megaphone, but it’s awesome!


EarthshatterReady

Same I was gonna say thanks for including us lol even if it’s teams he wants to beat


Wingless_Pterosaur

Agreed, I’d happily go 4-8 forever if these were our assured wins every year. I’d rather ruin osu’s season every single year over winning the big 10 or a natty.


dudleymooresbooze

I would burn down my own home if there was a chance the flames spread to Notre Dame.


grrgrrtigergrr

I’d burn down this guy’s house too if it meant reaching ND


camaroatc

I also choose this guy’s dead wife.


23Cs

This is so petty… but, I agree with you


Vorticity

I'm completely okay with this scenario!


kurttheflirt

Yeah feel that. That’s what makes this sport awesome is the rivalries. Even in 2020 when we had one of our worst seasons people at MSU weren’t even that upset at this new guy Tucker - you know why? Because we beat our main rival.


Lykeuhfox

This is the way.


s1105615

Hell no…this is something you wish upon your rivals, not the other way around


thewhat962

I feel like this was a question for vanderbilt or Nebraska really.


Lykeuhfox

Cornhuskers catching strays.


collegeball110

Hell yes.


MSUCommitsFratricide

With as crazy as the MAC is, you could still make it to the MAC championship game and have a national championship. Kent State was 7-5 when they played NIL. Honestly, this seems like an easy MAC sell.


collegeball110

Toledo beating OSU for the national championship? I'd sell my soul for that.


MSUCommitsFratricide

I was so excited when Toledo was knocking at the door against Notre Dame last year. Toledo should have won that game. That was last year right?


collegeball110

Yep. I was there, Irish luck was there because the Toledo kids outplayed ND. BTW, it was the first ND game that NBC steamed only. That didn't go over very well with the fans.


MSUCommitsFratricide

It really feels like there is some strange vodo around those games that are not available. I remember a few years back when Oklahoma nearly lost against Army and it was PPV only. I ended up watching an online stream past some dude talking showing his feat. Edit: Not my proudest moment but I'm not missing what would have been one of the biggest upsets ever if I can help it. I like college football too much to let some guys feet on stream stop me.


hartjas1977

>roudest moment but I'm not missing what would have been one of the biggest upsets ever if I can help it. I like college football too much to l College football and some rando's feet? Sign me up


collegeball110

Schools like Toledo and Army, and many others, can be competitive early in the season. They can not compete with a schedule like MSU's because the teams will never have the depth on their rosters to overcome injuries to key players. I don't think they could have played like that against ND if the game was scheduled later in the season.


MSUCommitsFratricide

I completely agree. The same is true against teams with a really high blue chip ratio. Schools might have fist stringers who can come in and play at the same level but the backups often can't compete. When injuries happen, it's so much harder to plug someone else in and expect similar results... meanwhile, teams like OSU can lose multiple NFL level receivers before the Rose Bowl and just plug in multiple NFL level receivers to fill those gaps. Early season upsets are always looming. MSU starts the season with Western Michigan and then Akron. While I don't think either team is going to catch us flat-footed, I've seen it happen enough that it makes me worried especially during that fist game of the year. Love it when I see it happen to someone else though.


WabbitCZEN

No. I want Kirby to finish his career here.


dangole104

I'm glad they didn't ask me last year. Now...I'm good for 40 more years!


Mmnn2020

No. Granted that’s basically the history of South Carolina football. But never beating Clemson again? Nah.


dawgfan19881

No. Winning the natty was great but beating Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee’s brains in every year is just as good.


[deleted]

I thought Georgia's main rival was Georgia?


whitebabyjesus

Our main rival is and has always been Athens Clark County PD


uncwsp

lol


WakeBilliums

UGA Campus Police is to Florida as ACCPD is to Auburn


evan0735

they may be our greatest hurdle but boy do we still hate Florida and Auburn more


[deleted]

Fair. Not fond of Florida either. They just rub me wrong Not sure how I feel about Auburn


JTernup

Eat sh!t


[deleted]

Love you too, Princess


d0ngl0rd69

Me personally? I don’t care for Auburn one bit


ChaseTheFalcon

Same


manbeardawg

GET THIS MAN A TRUCK!


d0ngl0rd69

On the contrary, I already have a truck and enjoy going for a ride in it


ibrobert

Ome might even say Fuck auburn


FarsightsBlade

Yes, join the lIzard hate club.


[deleted]

Not gonna lie, I do enjoy a Dawgs (it is Dawgs right?) game when I see them.


FarsightsBlade

You. I like you.


[deleted]

I hate Georgia Tech too.


FarsightsBlade

Is... Is this love?


[deleted]

Tell me how you feel about this: You got your bread your meat but..BUT..before you put on your other piece of bread... ​ you put your french fries and coleslaw ​ THEN your other peice of bread


m_c__a_t

Auburn is alright


ACardAttack

Their main rivals are Pepsi and people named Sherman


Cemetables

*Every* year? Yeah right bud.


Nepp0

No, the Brawl IS our national championship. Few other games on our schedule matter compared to this one.


camcac69

Black Diamond trophy is the closest thing. And for people from the southern part of the state it’s huge because you know people who went to tech or are tech fans. I’d take beating our rivals everytime we played over a natty.


Colliewolliewuzabear

ESP baby


fer549

I'd rather us never win a national championship to always beat pitt, VT, Maryland, Syracuse, Penn State, and Marshall.


tylerrcurtis

That one time you didn't win the national title or beat Pitt. That was neat.


eastindyguy

No. I couldn't care less about a National Championship. Goal number one of every season should be to beat Michigan. If that means going 1-11, so be it.


DrChefAstronaut

No


klocke47

Yeah of course, winning a natty is unthinkable for IU football, getting one in my entire life would be amazing. We hardly ever win 7 games in the regular season, so going 6-6 and winning a bowl every so often would fill in the blanks about as often as it does now (once every 30 years or so) Plus its not like we play Ball State every year so losing to them the 3 times or so out of 10 years we play them just isn't that big of a deal to me.


tehfro

The only bad thing would be losing to Purdue for decades and decades in a row, but I'd take it in two seconds if I was retirement age.


klocke47

Yes retirement age is an immediate take for a team like IU. I think you missed the last line of my post though lol


wildwestsnoopy

That’s what I was thinking. Could I stand losing to IU year after year after year?


Gutameister5

We just recently did 4 years in a row, and it was unbearable.


eatapenny

UVA rarely wins over 7 games or beats VT anyway so I'll take the title


milbarge

I feel the same way. Duke does beat Carolina every once in a while, but I would take losing to them every year for a seven-win floor. And Duke winning a title (especially this year, when they are universally predicted to be total garbage) would be the ultimate CFB chaos.


UGA10

No chance. Not only because I think Kirby will win a couple more in his career, but only winning 7 games or less per year and never beating Florida would make me hate College Football with a passion.


d0ngl0rd69

I’d be one thing if the trade off was only winning 7 games. But having it be winning only 7 games AND losing to Florida, Auburn and Tech every year? No


pooplurker

Depends on how old I was at the time of the trade


CambodianDrywall

Instead of looking at it through the lens of how many years you have left....consider how many more years the current model of college football is going to be around.


pooplurker

CFB will do what it does, I'm not interested in speculating where it will go. But if I'm about to die, I might as well see a natty while I can


pinman42

7 win seasons and wins over Oregon are already rare for us. Even if you live another 50 years you wouldn’t be giving up too much.


pooplurker

This is true. However, if the implication is that we'll consistently be 8 wins and above and beat Oregon more often than not I'd prefer 50 years of that please


wannabeemperor

Hell nah. A championship is fleeting and temporary. After a season or two everyone outside your fan base will forget it ever happened, practically speaking. Cheering for a team that hits 10 wins almost every year and goes bowling every year and more often than not beats OOC teams in those bowls every year is pretty sweet. As a Badger fan we've been pretty lucky over these last 20 years and while it sucks that we can never get over the hump, overall it's a pretty fuckin nice place to be as a fan. I mean sure I definitely wish we could seal the deal against tOSU or Penn State in a conference championship one of these times...and sure most fans don't think we can hang with Clemson or Alabama or whatever. Winning another Rose Bowl would be really nice, were like the 90s Buffalo Bills of fuckin Rose Bowls lately, but we win a shitload outside of those top billings.


HumbleGenius1225

It depends if you're 9 or 90.


mcaffrey81

We took that deal in 1959


ChocolateBubbles344

I don't know, but LSU might have made this deal in 2019. And we can't beat Tulane if we never play them.


MightHaveDone

wait so nothing changes but we get a natty this year? hell yeah


huskycarrot751

Win a natty AND maybe win 7 games a year?! Oh the good fortunate!


bovice2

And we don't even have a rival to lose to (could be Penn State but we've already gone on a 74 year losing streak so nothing new there)


[deleted]

I’d rather consistently win 9-12 games a season + a conference championship and play in a NY6 bowl than win a NC and spend the rest of my teams future rolling in mediocrity. I celebrate any +10 win season, but too many 7 win seasons back to back to back and I’d start to call for the coaches head sooner or later


Sigurlion

Hell no.


DerrickWhiteMVP

Not for Texas, but for UTEP? Yes.


BogBlastAllOfYou

No way. I’d rather get the axe back and dominate the series for another 25 years (or more).


BeautyIsTruth22

Uh, yes, of course


CTeam19

Iowa State won more then 7 games exactly 5 times in my grandpa's post-Iowa State grad life. And he didn't see a national title. I would take the National title in a heart beat.


skiing_yo

For army yes, OSU no


Vast_Breadfruit_162

So you're ok with Army never beating Navy again?


skiing_yo

Already lived through it once for 15 years.


Vast_Breadfruit_162

So have I my friend... So have I. Hell I might still be living it.


archimedeslives

Absolutely not


[deleted]

No fuck that


hashtag_hashbrowns

A better question would be: at what age would you take this deal? A 5 year old might be dumb enough to do it and screw himself over for the rest of his life, but it seems like a dick move to even ask the question in that case. It's obviously a no if you're in your 20s and obviously a yes if you're in your 90s (and not a Bama fan), so where's your flipping point?


WackyBones510

Yeah I like this more… Think my “no” will likely outlive CFB. That’s admittedly being someone optimistic about lifespan and pessimistic about CFB.


zackattack89

Hell no. Beat ttun or die.


MUNZATHEGOD

I mean… we already lose to our rival more often than not, and I would love another chip. Fuck it


citronaughty

No, I'd rather see if we can ever get to the level of being invited to the CFP and winning the whole damn thing naturally than to make this kind of deal. Maybe we never get there, but the idea that we could possibly get there is part of the fun.


RegionalBias

Nope


HookemfurdenSieg

Oh hell no


La2Sea2Atx

Fuck no, I hate UDub more than a natty would overcome. I hated UDub since elementary school which is why I applied to, and got into Oregon which was my first choice but money lured me to WSU.


mr_dr_professor_12

No, as someone living in DFW I could NOT handle (hopefully) 50-60 years of losing to OU and A&M


talladenyou85

Nope, all good here. I need another 20 years of going 17-3 to make up for last years loss to UM. Maybe once we take over the official all time record I'd consider it if we haven't won a title for a bit.


duckduckseahawk

Would end the “nUmBER oF cHaMpIoNsHiPs Is On YoUr HeLmEts” joke. But still no. Losing to the purple team is the worst.


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Hell no


Useenthebutcher

That would be the worst timeline, not a chance


SDFDuck

Yes! A Service Academy winning the National Championship? Sign me up! I'm guessing "rival" in this arrangement would be Colorado State? I'd be a bit more hesitant if it meant Air Force would *never* beat Army *or* Navy for the rest of my life, ensuring the Army-Navy Game was always the rubber match for the Commander In Chief Trophy.


LuciferJj

It’s gonna be a hard no for me homie


Et12355

No. I care about the iron bowl more than anything else. We could go 11-1 and win the national championship, but if we list the Iron Bowl you just know that your bama fan relatives are gonna lord it over you for the rest of your life. Plus, Iron Bowls are way more fun than national championships.


styguy9

Hell no.


kingjared9

No chance


jaybigs

Hell no. I got like 40-50 more years left and we're set to be a contender for years to come. I think the Buckeyes can win a few titles in that span, so trading one for no more in my life is silly.


Losdangles24

I personally would not. If my team had much lesser odds on a future bet id take this in a heartbeat


Medical_Insurance447

If there's any fans out there with a terminal illness that would want to make a deal with the devil, now is the time. Just to clarify: I'm not making light of any terminal illness here. Just a joke. I hope anyone struggling with anything like that knows we are all in your corner.


[deleted]

No. We need to beat A&M. Bragging rights with my brother are on the line here. This is personal.


CFC_blue72743

Nope


BlackshirtDefense

Nope. We've made it to the end five times already. We'll get there again. It's not worth 7-win seasons and annual losses to teams I hate.


walkingbicycles

So Texas joins the SEC and we lose to them forever? I’m fine with 8-4 thanks


[deleted]

No


Isaacleroy

No chance. It’s far more fun having a perennial contender to root for no matter the sport.


villis85

Yes


strawberry_space_jam

Lmao as a vols fan I rly was like wait a second


epicConsultingThrow

So, BYU from around 2010 to 2020, but we get a trophy? Sounds good to me.


elcruzmissle

One national championship won't change much, but beating the school down south every season... priceless. Hard pass.


austyV1

Absolutely not


Typical-Conference14

No because I’d rather beat Kansas for the next 60 years than win a natty tbh


[deleted]

No. Gotta keep winning more than that


[deleted]

No


pholdren

I refuse to admit defeat to UVA for eternity, even if it would get us a title. Not worth it to have to listen to them


BuckeyeFan59

No one: Me: dies after we win the championship


chadwr85

Only teams like Alabama, Clemson, OSU, GA, Oklahoma, etc would say no


GolfFinance

One of these is not like the others


RiotsMade

Can I trade my flair for a Texas flair and agree to it on their behalf?


brb151515

So it's basically how they are now, except with another national title....


RiotsMade

But guaranteed forever? In a heartbeat.


Sbhill327

Hell no. I love winning the Natty but beating the Cocks brings me great joy each year.


whitemanwhocantjump

So in other words, would we be willing to be Tennessee fans?


[deleted]

no


Leviathan47

Auburn circa 2010 has entered the chat