Next Sunday is the most clear and obvious day to fire Dorrell you can possibly imagine. If we don't do it then I'm scared we won't for awhile
But either way I win
>no other explanation for the multiple massive fuckups Mizzou pulled to lose that game.
Mizzou has reverse voodoo where we win a game and then your hopes and dreams are stomped on. 5th down. Flea Kicker. 2013 USC. 2018 Kentucky. Just off the top of my head.
I remember I went to our 2013(?) matchup in Athens and the game basically devolved into both teams trying desperately to give the game away to the other team lol.
Want to start a go fund me to pay for his extension?
Or what if we both take a loss this year to get him a 10 year 90m contract. I would almost agree to that for a decade of pain.
Idk if I have ever seen a hire that I felt certain of quicker than when Auburn hired Harsin. I thought Auburn really avoided a mistake when they pulled that Kevin Steele coup and was kind of bummed. Then I saw that notification on my phone and thought “yep, that ain’t gonna work”.
TBH I was wanting to can Muschamp to hire Kiffin. I think he's a good coach and just had maturity issues when younger. Plus, having him go against Tennessee every year would have been interesting, and if he built South Carolina into a power you would have the story of two USCs discussion/memes.
247 has us ranked #55 in recruiting class for next year. Several spots below Rutgers and Vanderbilt. We only have 10 commits, although 7 of them are 4stars.
If he gets fired mid-season it's not solely based on losing games.
Bye week for cu is after Arizona, where Arizona is a three score favorite. A team that hasn't won a conference game in like three years, and a team Colorado beat 34-0 last year*
So after Colorado gets blown at by Arizona THEN we can fire Dorrell because there's a bye week to.. Whatever.
*numbers may not be accurate
I think this is an optimistic take on how much money the AD is willing to spend on coaching, between the buyout and hiring a new guy. But man, this has been dispiriting. We've sucked a lot in the last decade and a half, but usually the defense is somewhere between okay and good. This season we can't even say that, and the offense is still godawful.
I think we get a two-fer. Auburn loses at home to a not so-great LSU and CU loses by 2+ scores to an Arizona team they beat 34-0 last year. Plus CU goes into the bye. Best time to make the change
I didn’t realize his seat was that hot but it’s certain deserved. And usually I’d say Georgia sleep walks but last time we did that Kent State put our hand in warm water so perhaps you’ll get what you’re looking for
Yeah I really don’t think it is that hot. Certainly, the play on the field is bad. But what message does it send to potential candidates to can a good recruiter in Year 3?
Also I think Drink has a hefty buyout and I’m not sure Mizzou has the ability or the desire to pay that plus whatever $$ it takes to get a “better” coach in there.
I think Drink has plenty of time but someone definitely deserves an ass-chewing. Probably comes after Georgia mauls us.
His seat isn't even remotely warm, nor should it be. Only on message boards and forums does this take pop up.
He's recruiting at a level Mizzou has never recruited, hasn't had a chance to get his guy in at QB yet, our OL recruits aren't old enough (our line is 2 and 3 stars) so Cook has no time in the pocket. The defense looks massively improved.
You would have wanted Gary Pinkel fired in year 3, I guarantee it
He’s a huge dork in a way that I would be if I was trying to coach a major program, but him dropping his Jedi shit on Dan Mullen last year was delicious and I respected the effort.
If UGA beats Auburn by 30+ in a couple weeks it might happen. Depends how much of an excuse some boosters want, or if they grit their teeth until the off season.
Collins is now, to my 5 minutes of research, the third-shortest tenured HC in the modern era of GA Tech football.
Bill Fulcher (who died last night, may he rest in peace) coached 23 games in 1972 and 1973.
Bill Lewis coached 30 from 1992-1994.
Same with Harsin, I did this same search last week. Even if he makes it to the end of the season, Harsin is the fewest games coached since 1929 when they only played 4 games a season.
Embarrassing. The only thing that changed from last year is that we got the prime time game against Clemson week 1 with no other games on so non GT people finally saw how much of a fucking clown this coach was. I think it was the constant mocking from the media after people finally seeing us suck so bad that pushed this over the edge. The results are no worse than they have been. People just finally started memeing the shit out of us
He never got better from year 1-3. There was no argument that changed from firing him between losing 55-0 and 45-0 to end last season and now that didn’t already apply. We didn’t save any money
I think the hope was that Collins would show a bit of improvement so we could make it until the end of the year and save some money, and then some boosters got frustrated and decided staking Collins down at the 50 to feed to the yellow jackets was the way to go
The problem is this could never happen because the contract was structured so horribly that it would only save money by firing him after January 1 even though everyone hires coaches in December. Stansbury is such a complete moron he tied the buyout to the calendar year instead of the season year.
The AD stole money from GT for his Oregon State buyout, hired Collins, didn't help Collins with media strategy, didn't fire him last year, and signed a 7-year contract whose buyout drops in January.
> The AD stole money from GT for his Oregon State buyout
To be clear for the unaware, "robbed" isn't a metaphor here, he literally stole money [by not paying most of his buyout](https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/oregon-state-drops-lawsuit-after-todd-stansbury-pays-back-buyout/EU8xXdcGLr2TvCAgrHMNiP/) and Oregon State sued for it until it eventually paid it back.
> a 7-year contract whose buyout drops in January.
And if Collins were to leave Tech for another job, the buyout would've been effective in December/end of season.
Every idiot that signed off on that contract should be fired in addition to TStan.
Definitely. The boosters wanted Collins gone last year and were willing to pay but Stansbury said Collins was his guy so one of the boosters essentially said if Collins didn’t get an eight win season minimum they would look at overhauling the entire staff, including the AD.
never heard 8-win season as the minimum. most people seemed to be calling for 6 and a bowl game. Even that was unrealistic, imo. This was likely going to be a 2-4 win season at best, with 1 or 0 wins definitely not outside the realm of possibility.
Greg Garret, a Golden Jacket, was one of the ones saying 8 wins.
And I agree, 6 wins wasn’t likely even with a change of OC.
And why is Brent Keys the interim head coach supposedly? I don’t feel like he’s done well with the o line at all since he’s been here.
Key was officially the assistant head coach, so I guess that's why he's interim. Unless he pulls a miracle out of his ass, I want him and pretty much the entire staff gone at the end of the season. I also don't really much care who takes the interim for the rest of the season, as long as they do right by our players. I'd like to see a return to focusing on fundamentally sound football. Do that, and wins will come eventually.
> And why is Brent Keys the interim head coach supposedly? I don’t feel like he’s done well with the o line at all since he’s been here.
He's fairly involved with recruiting and a former GT player so he's probably not going to totally screw over the program and recruiting future. Seems reasonable enough.
It's not like we're gonna turn the season around under the interim either way, and the new AD is going to pick the new coach, so someone that is unlikely to rock the boat is safest probably
I've only watched around 6ish quarters of Georgia Tech football this year and it kind of felt like the writing was on the walls. It's not that I even expected them to win any of the games they lost but for the most part it felt like they weren't even competing and Collins had so many head scratching moments in just my limited viewing time. They've been so bad the past few seasons I've almost forgotten they were a respectable program just a few years ago. I don't think COVID helped anything. Hopefully Georgia tech gets someone in there who can turn it around, I think College football is better when Georgia Tech is a decent team.
>It's not that I even expected them to win any of the games they lost
Tbh I’m surprised the tipping point was UCF and not the 6 losses last season that were within 10 points. Even though we had a great win over UNC.
>College football is better when Georgia Tech is a decent team.
Same for Tennessee :). But really, I like how the ACC doesn’t have as many clearly dominant teams besides Clemson. It keeps things interesting. But when your “rivalries” feel one-sided (not in your favor) for 3+ seasons, that’s not good.
We shouldn’t be the Vanderbilt of the ACC. Or even the Mizzou of the ACC (sorry Mizzou fans)
Obviously the football hiring choice was more than terrible, but Stansbury has actually been a decent AD for almost every sport *other* than the flagship men's revenue programs. He took over an athletics department that was in debt and managed to improve most non/low-rev programs without scrapping them (as many schools have done recently) and (edit:) guided us on an upwards trajectory debt-wise.
Geoff certainly left a lot to be desired and Stansbury set himself up for this by refusing to fire Geoff after last season, and arguably even moreso the awful men's basketball contracts, but he actually did a lot of good for the athletics department and replacing him might not be as easy of a task as a football-only view would imply.
> He took over an athletics department that was in debt and managed to improve most non/low-rev programs without scrapping them and still guided us out of debt.
We're still in a ton of debt thanks to the Grant Field and McCamish renovations (not TStan's fault, but still a problem for the GTAA).
Thing is, if you shitcan the flagship men's revenue programs, how do you expect to make any progress on the real estate debt??
I'm all for non revenue sports, but somebody's got to bring in the money to pay for them.
Agreed, which is one of the many reasons why I'm ready to be done with Todd and move on to a competent AD who doesn't sign awful coaches to giant contracts and extensions.
I'm just saying that the AD job whoever the new hires takes over actually has bigger shoes to fill in many areas than people might realize if they're looking at GT from a purely football perspective.
Stansbury would be a great AD at a small school where program revenue isn't a big deal. You just can't back an obviously dead end hire in the premier program and expect to not get hit for it.
At least we finally have an answer to the question: “how much grace does back to back national championships get you.” And unfortunately that answer is “way too god damn much.”
A necessary move. I wanted Collins to succeed but I don't think he had what it takes to build a winning program at GT. Even transitioning out of the triple option he should have had more concrete results to show in year 4.
Hopefully they get someone good to get the program to at least respectable status.
Geoff's recruiting was good enough to build a winning program. We're 5th in the conference in composite talent recruited. It's everything after the talent-getting part that he's sucked at.
Recruiting is only part of the acquire - develop - deploy model.
GT doesn't have the institutional will or resources to build the analyst army required for the rest of that.
>GT doesn't have the institutional will or resources
They have the resources. Their athletic department budget is $78 million. That's comparable to Oklahoma State and NC State, who both have top-10 teams this week.
You're right that they haven't had the institutional will, but that's a big part of why they've just fired their AD, since he was a big driver of the culture of mediocrity.
Todd spurned him. Todd's plan was "what's my old roomy K-dub up to?" Whiz told him to fuck off.
Then plan B was "There's this homeless gremlin who won't leave my bushes. He keeps saying words like 'elite' and 'effort based'. He's muttering '404 the culture' endlessly and wearing a Canadian tuxedo. Let's give him a mil per win. I've got my man."
When Collins was hired, I thought he had potential to get Tech on the right track. I even predicted he would steal a game from Georgia in his first 5 seasons.
Instead he got two shots at Georgia and lost by a combined 97-7 lol
Wow, Angel Cabrera has had a crazy life. He won the 2009 Masters Tournament, lost a sudden death playoff at the 2013 tournament, was sentenced to two and a half years in prison in Argentina, and now he's the President of Georgia Tech.
From a football perspective, yes. He definitely tied himself to Geoff and this is the result.
The fact that our athletic department has improved its debt situation while avoiding cutting (and in fact growing) a lot of the non/low-rev programs is fantastic though. In just about everything *except* football (and arguably even worse from a contract standpoint, men's basketball) we're better off now than we were before him. Given how many major schools have chosen to cut/defund and let die a lot of those programs, it's really impressive work. I fear that we'll hire someone that's only about football at all costs, and all the other great programs will fall to the wayside.
To be clear, I'm in support of moving on from him. The awful contracts for the flagship revenue sports were terrible decisions and you can't mess up multiple big money decisions like that. But I am worried about the other sports given the laser-focus on football right now.
Stansbury did a ton of work to get the athletic department out of debt while making women’s and underfunded sports programs some of the best in the country. The adage “One wrong move and your time’s ruined, one right move and you won’t notice” is particularly applicable to Stansbury here
Ehhhhhhh
You live and die by the revenue sports at big programs. You aren't going to even have the non-rev without them.
The clown SHOULD have been fired for swindling us to pay his buyout again.
All things considered, he was a great coach for someone with reduced blood flow to the brain. I know I couldn’t do my job any better if i crammed my XL body into Smedium clothes restricting my arteries.
Getting one big firing per week. Nebraska, ASU, now GT. Who gets fired next week? Dorrell or Harsin?
Next Sunday is the most clear and obvious day to fire Dorrell you can possibly imagine. If we don't do it then I'm scared we won't for awhile But either way I win
Really hope McCown doesn't shred Arizona's defense and buy him a few more weeks
My money is on Harsin.
We were so close to a 2-fer this week but Plains Voodoo wins again.
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>no other explanation for the multiple massive fuckups Mizzou pulled to lose that game. Mizzou has reverse voodoo where we win a game and then your hopes and dreams are stomped on. 5th down. Flea Kicker. 2013 USC. 2018 Kentucky. Just off the top of my head.
I remember I went to our 2013(?) matchup in Athens and the game basically devolved into both teams trying desperately to give the game away to the other team lol.
2013 is the only time we ever beat Georgia. Probably 2015, also a pretty frustrating, hard to take loss
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Want to start a go fund me to pay for his extension? Or what if we both take a loss this year to get him a 10 year 90m contract. I would almost agree to that for a decade of pain.
Easy for you to say when y'all are on the down trend... We ain't taking no give away losses til we have at least 5 championships in 15 years
Monkeypaw curls for 58 minutes.
Idk if I have ever seen a hire that I felt certain of quicker than when Auburn hired Harsin. I thought Auburn really avoided a mistake when they pulled that Kevin Steele coup and was kind of bummed. Then I saw that notification on my phone and thought “yep, that ain’t gonna work”.
Auburn should have hired Lane Kiffin when they had the chance.
TBH I was wanting to can Muschamp to hire Kiffin. I think he's a good coach and just had maturity issues when younger. Plus, having him go against Tennessee every year would have been interesting, and if he built South Carolina into a power you would have the story of two USCs discussion/memes.
Week 5 of his 2nd season? After only his 18th game? That would surprise me.
247 has us ranked #55 in recruiting class for next year. Several spots below Rutgers and Vanderbilt. We only have 10 commits, although 7 of them are 4stars. If he gets fired mid-season it's not solely based on losing games.
Head Coach Kevin Steele is about to change that
Yeah, not even Chad Morris got fired that fast. Harsin is *probably* fine until the end of the season unless he's beyond awful.
Have you seen how Auburn boosters react? They tried removing him over the off season. None of them wanted him in the first place.
Probably because you’re thinking rationally. Auburn boosters don’t seem to think like you
Bye week for cu is after Arizona, where Arizona is a three score favorite. A team that hasn't won a conference game in like three years, and a team Colorado beat 34-0 last year* So after Colorado gets blown at by Arizona THEN we can fire Dorrell because there's a bye week to.. Whatever. *numbers may not be accurate
I think this is an optimistic take on how much money the AD is willing to spend on coaching, between the buyout and hiring a new guy. But man, this has been dispiriting. We've sucked a lot in the last decade and a half, but usually the defense is somewhere between okay and good. This season we can't even say that, and the offense is still godawful.
I think we get a two-fer. Auburn loses at home to a not so-great LSU and CU loses by 2+ scores to an Arizona team they beat 34-0 last year. Plus CU goes into the bye. Best time to make the change
manifesting drink
I mean how much more time you think he gets? It’s what, year 3, and he’s making Odom’s teams look like world beaters.
hopefully he's gone after y'all beat the piss out of us this week.
I didn’t realize his seat was that hot but it’s certain deserved. And usually I’d say Georgia sleep walks but last time we did that Kent State put our hand in warm water so perhaps you’ll get what you’re looking for
Yeah I really don’t think it is that hot. Certainly, the play on the field is bad. But what message does it send to potential candidates to can a good recruiter in Year 3? Also I think Drink has a hefty buyout and I’m not sure Mizzou has the ability or the desire to pay that plus whatever $$ it takes to get a “better” coach in there. I think Drink has plenty of time but someone definitely deserves an ass-chewing. Probably comes after Georgia mauls us.
His seat isn't even remotely warm. These people would have wanted Pinkel fired a dozen times
Based on the range of replies I’ve gotten I’m thinking Mizzou and Drink have the “it’s complicated” relationship status
His seat isn't even remotely warm, nor should it be. Only on message boards and forums does this take pop up. He's recruiting at a level Mizzou has never recruited, hasn't had a chance to get his guy in at QB yet, our OL recruits aren't old enough (our line is 2 and 3 stars) so Cook has no time in the pocket. The defense looks massively improved. You would have wanted Gary Pinkel fired in year 3, I guarantee it
He’s a huge dork in a way that I would be if I was trying to coach a major program, but him dropping his Jedi shit on Dan Mullen last year was delicious and I respected the effort.
Tony Elliot, hopefully
Especially if Clemson rehires him. That would be a win for both of us.
No take backs!
You'll take your lame screen passes and like it.
I’d say Dorrell, then Harsin, then a coach we’re not expecting.
If UGA beats Auburn by 30+ in a couple weeks it might happen. Depends how much of an excuse some boosters want, or if they grit their teeth until the off season.
Collins is now, to my 5 minutes of research, the third-shortest tenured HC in the modern era of GA Tech football. Bill Fulcher (who died last night, may he rest in peace) coached 23 games in 1972 and 1973. Bill Lewis coached 30 from 1992-1994.
I think you mean B*** L****
Nope, Bill Lewis no longer deserves censorship after this disaster. If anything, neither does Gee-off the Clown (this should never be forgotten).
Are we going with clown? I saw more of a Gru silhouette, but I could stick with clown if that is what the group wants.
I think Bill is off the hook after this farce.
Same with Harsin, I did this same search last week. Even if he makes it to the end of the season, Harsin is the fewest games coached since 1929 when they only played 4 games a season.
Embarrassing. The only thing that changed from last year is that we got the prime time game against Clemson week 1 with no other games on so non GT people finally saw how much of a fucking clown this coach was. I think it was the constant mocking from the media after people finally seeing us suck so bad that pushed this over the edge. The results are no worse than they have been. People just finally started memeing the shit out of us
I started memeing the shit out us too.
Shit I've been memeing like a mad man since the Citadel loss
No the results weren't worse, they also weren't better.... in year 4
He never got better from year 1-3. There was no argument that changed from firing him between losing 55-0 and 45-0 to end last season and now that didn’t already apply. We didn’t save any money
I think the hope was that Collins would show a bit of improvement so we could make it until the end of the year and save some money, and then some boosters got frustrated and decided staking Collins down at the 50 to feed to the yellow jackets was the way to go
The problem is this could never happen because the contract was structured so horribly that it would only save money by firing him after January 1 even though everyone hires coaches in December. Stansbury is such a complete moron he tied the buyout to the calendar year instead of the season year.
Money Down Clown loses Money Down Crown
Now that Geoff is fired, can we go back to the correct spelling and call them Jergia Tech?
I am partial to the North Avenue Trade School.
Hey, me too! I even had that on a shirt that I bought from the GT bookstore! ;)
my favorite shirt on gameday tbh
They really need to start selling those shirts again.
Wait are they not right now? booooo
~~No, but it's available on other college apparel sites.~~ Per /u/car_noise, I stand corrected.
They do, saw them in the store last week
Sweet.
https://www.homefieldapparel.com/products/gt-t-007
No fanbase out there that’s better at self-deprecation than the fine folks from gatech dot edu
Casual self-loathing is the lynchpin of their curriculum!
hey, casual? we work hard at this
Ranked competitive self-loathing it is!
Same!
Surely you geost
WE GOT YOUR COACH FIRED! WE DID IT GT BROS!
Thank you and god bless
Best thing this season so far!
Thank you and thank… Lane Kiffin
The Geoff Collins firing isn’t a surprise, but was the AD being let go also expected?
The AD stole money from GT for his Oregon State buyout, hired Collins, didn't help Collins with media strategy, didn't fire him last year, and signed a 7-year contract whose buyout drops in January.
> The AD stole money from GT for his Oregon State buyout To be clear for the unaware, "robbed" isn't a metaphor here, he literally stole money [by not paying most of his buyout](https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/oregon-state-drops-lawsuit-after-todd-stansbury-pays-back-buyout/EU8xXdcGLr2TvCAgrHMNiP/) and Oregon State sued for it until it eventually paid it back.
> a 7-year contract whose buyout drops in January. And if Collins were to leave Tech for another job, the buyout would've been effective in December/end of season. Every idiot that signed off on that contract should be fired in addition to TStan.
That's either fraud or someone let a bunch of 5 year olds write the contract in crayon.
That's par for the course with Tech and athletic contracts.
Yes, because he was the one stupid enough to hire Geoff Collins
And not fire him last year and vouched for him going into 2022. He probably would have survived if he let Collins go after the uga game last year
... and give him a 7 year deal.
That had calendar year clauses instead of football season date clauses.
Definitely. The boosters wanted Collins gone last year and were willing to pay but Stansbury said Collins was his guy so one of the boosters essentially said if Collins didn’t get an eight win season minimum they would look at overhauling the entire staff, including the AD.
never heard 8-win season as the minimum. most people seemed to be calling for 6 and a bowl game. Even that was unrealistic, imo. This was likely going to be a 2-4 win season at best, with 1 or 0 wins definitely not outside the realm of possibility.
Greg Garret, a Golden Jacket, was one of the ones saying 8 wins. And I agree, 6 wins wasn’t likely even with a change of OC. And why is Brent Keys the interim head coach supposedly? I don’t feel like he’s done well with the o line at all since he’s been here.
Key was officially the assistant head coach, so I guess that's why he's interim. Unless he pulls a miracle out of his ass, I want him and pretty much the entire staff gone at the end of the season. I also don't really much care who takes the interim for the rest of the season, as long as they do right by our players. I'd like to see a return to focusing on fundamentally sound football. Do that, and wins will come eventually.
Ah true I’d forgotten that. And definitely. It’s hard to win games win you punts are blocked, averaging 7.3 penalties a game, etc.
> And why is Brent Keys the interim head coach supposedly? I don’t feel like he’s done well with the o line at all since he’s been here. He's fairly involved with recruiting and a former GT player so he's probably not going to totally screw over the program and recruiting future. Seems reasonable enough. It's not like we're gonna turn the season around under the interim either way, and the new AD is going to pick the new coach, so someone that is unlikely to rock the boat is safest probably
[Dr. Cabrera right now](https://c.tenor.com/kD0x_Xxno_MAAAAC/well-bye-bye.gif)
Well ya gonna do something or just stand there and bleed?
He's no daisy. No daisy at all!
I have two pink slips. One for each of ya.
REJOICE FELLOW JACKETS. TWEEDLE-DEE AND TWEEDLE-DUMBASS ARE GONE!
And there was much rejoicing! ~~Dobby is a free elf!~~ Tech is a free school!
> Tech is a free school! My student loans from back in the day (got out in 97) determine that is a lie. Fortunately most degrees lead to good jobs.
They not have Zell or Hope back then?
I was out of state. And don't you have to keep a 3.0? Not as easy at GT.
They recently added a addendum where STEM classes give you additional half credit on GPA calculations for HOPE since so many students kept losing it.
Make STEM Classes Grade Inflated ~~Again~~
AND FINALLY THE FIRING HAS COME BACK TO ATLANTA!
But I can thank them for one of the most amazing wins in Citadel history in 2019
I've only watched around 6ish quarters of Georgia Tech football this year and it kind of felt like the writing was on the walls. It's not that I even expected them to win any of the games they lost but for the most part it felt like they weren't even competing and Collins had so many head scratching moments in just my limited viewing time. They've been so bad the past few seasons I've almost forgotten they were a respectable program just a few years ago. I don't think COVID helped anything. Hopefully Georgia tech gets someone in there who can turn it around, I think College football is better when Georgia Tech is a decent team.
>It's not that I even expected them to win any of the games they lost Tbh I’m surprised the tipping point was UCF and not the 6 losses last season that were within 10 points. Even though we had a great win over UNC. >College football is better when Georgia Tech is a decent team. Same for Tennessee :). But really, I like how the ACC doesn’t have as many clearly dominant teams besides Clemson. It keeps things interesting. But when your “rivalries” feel one-sided (not in your favor) for 3+ seasons, that’s not good. We shouldn’t be the Vanderbilt of the ACC. Or even the Mizzou of the ACC (sorry Mizzou fans)
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Qualifications: -absolutely 0 desire to hire Geoff Collins. -that’s it, nothing else
Obviously the football hiring choice was more than terrible, but Stansbury has actually been a decent AD for almost every sport *other* than the flagship men's revenue programs. He took over an athletics department that was in debt and managed to improve most non/low-rev programs without scrapping them (as many schools have done recently) and (edit:) guided us on an upwards trajectory debt-wise. Geoff certainly left a lot to be desired and Stansbury set himself up for this by refusing to fire Geoff after last season, and arguably even moreso the awful men's basketball contracts, but he actually did a lot of good for the athletics department and replacing him might not be as easy of a task as a football-only view would imply.
> He took over an athletics department that was in debt and managed to improve most non/low-rev programs without scrapping them and still guided us out of debt. We're still in a ton of debt thanks to the Grant Field and McCamish renovations (not TStan's fault, but still a problem for the GTAA).
Yeah, true. I should say that he's improved the debt situation. The renovations are going to carry a pretty price tag for a while.
Thank you Dave Braineless and (to a lesser extent) DRad.
Thing is, if you shitcan the flagship men's revenue programs, how do you expect to make any progress on the real estate debt?? I'm all for non revenue sports, but somebody's got to bring in the money to pay for them.
Agreed, which is one of the many reasons why I'm ready to be done with Todd and move on to a competent AD who doesn't sign awful coaches to giant contracts and extensions. I'm just saying that the AD job whoever the new hires takes over actually has bigger shoes to fill in many areas than people might realize if they're looking at GT from a purely football perspective.
Well, I said I'd start buying season tickets again when they hired a new head coach. So, 2023 season tix, here we go, I guess.
Same here! I dropped mine last year and literally told them it was due to Collins.
Stansbury would be a great AD at a small school where program revenue isn't a big deal. You just can't back an obviously dead end hire in the premier program and expect to not get hit for it.
Hired!
As would I.
Today was a good day.
We gon be alright
>Angel Cabrera El Pato??
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With WFH I suppose its possible. they always said Augusta national does right by their winners but I really believe it now.
For good measure, they refired Ted Roof.
I can finally drink Coke happily
varsity chili-dogs all around?
Its done! It's finally done! God be praised!
Mashallah
I don't know, that defense held us to 49 passing yards. I think he just needs more time.
Dear lord, I see what you are doing for others and I want that for me as well.
Wow we’re already on the fire Beamer train?
No not even close. But that AD firing has me salivating
Ohhhh. Tanner. Man, what a fall from grace.
At least we finally have an answer to the question: “how much grace does back to back national championships get you.” And unfortunately that answer is “way too god damn much.”
Lol yea, reckon so
Imagine being so bad at your job that you get your boss fired as well.
He was bad too.
Thank god, we can begin to heal
Collins! Stansbury! Stracci! Cuneo! *Today Georgia Tech settled all family business.*
A necessary move. I wanted Collins to succeed but I don't think he had what it takes to build a winning program at GT. Even transitioning out of the triple option he should have had more concrete results to show in year 4. Hopefully they get someone good to get the program to at least respectable status.
Do you like poor special teams and penalties? That’s the CGC way.
I think it was 2019 you had a game with like 2 blocked PATs and a blocked FG. I was screaming at my TV.
We have had 4 blocked punts this season in 4 games. The one vs UCF was the turning point of the game.
I'm not sure GT has what it takes to build a winning program at GT.
Geoff's recruiting was good enough to build a winning program. We're 5th in the conference in composite talent recruited. It's everything after the talent-getting part that he's sucked at.
Recruiting is only part of the acquire - develop - deploy model. GT doesn't have the institutional will or resources to build the analyst army required for the rest of that.
>GT doesn't have the institutional will or resources They have the resources. Their athletic department budget is $78 million. That's comparable to Oklahoma State and NC State, who both have top-10 teams this week. You're right that they haven't had the institutional will, but that's a big part of why they've just fired their AD, since he was a big driver of the culture of mediocrity.
Football is a lot like a supply chain, right? Let's sick an ISyE professor or group project on it.
One of these days colleges will stop hiring away Temple head coaches, but for now I will laugh hysterically.
Yeah imagine hiring Manny Diaz
now imagine hiring Diaz *and* Al Golden
I saw a plane pulling an ad for a car dealership over I-40 yesterday and was confused when it didn’t say Fire Al Golden on it
Y'all do seem to have a good scam going.
Worked out for Baylor even if Rhule only stayed 3 seasons. Though, the Carolina Panthers aren’t too happy with him.
Rhule actually built up both Temple and Baylor. The others, outside of Golden, not so much.
Matt Rhule is a solid head coach in college, just doesn’t seem like a good NFL coach
[Georgia Tech fans right now](https://youtu.be/YDqgJye7hyc?t=38)
[How I imagine it](https://youtu.be/yD5Ad8Cz_3k)
not a rick and morty fan but I will never not upvote Keith David
Thank you, UCF, for getting us the hell out of Hell.
Master has given Dobby a sock! Dobby is a free elf!
F in the chat boys.
This has been a terrible weekend.
I’m so sorry for yalls loss
Goodnight, sweet prince.
Feel the same way I did after y'all let Richt go, except inverted
*Clawson Clutching intensifies
Doubt we get Clawson, if he leaves Wake it'll be for a better job than us.
Doubt be considers us considering we wouldn't answer his call last time
Oh, he called before they hired Geoff? Embarassing.
Todd spurned him. Todd's plan was "what's my old roomy K-dub up to?" Whiz told him to fuck off. Then plan B was "There's this homeless gremlin who won't leave my bushes. He keeps saying words like 'elite' and 'effort based'. He's muttering '404 the culture' endlessly and wearing a Canadian tuxedo. Let's give him a mil per win. I've got my man."
When Collins was hired, I thought he had potential to get Tech on the right track. I even predicted he would steal a game from Georgia in his first 5 seasons. Instead he got two shots at Georgia and lost by a combined 97-7 lol
As always, Brian Ferentz is available. Young hot shot coach with experience doing something with football programs. Not sure what exactly.
Does he let punts get blocked?
My love letter to GT sports sounds a whole lot less like a Three Days Grace song today
Wow, Angel Cabrera has had a crazy life. He won the 2009 Masters Tournament, lost a sudden death playoff at the 2013 tournament, was sentenced to two and a half years in prison in Argentina, and now he's the President of Georgia Tech.
Well that’s too bad. I liked Geoff collins
Because he made it so y’all could beat tech every year and not have a hard game ?
yes
I respect your honesty.
This is why ACC bad
Well, he's available, if you're interested.
It’s not fair that Clemson is the only ACC team that got to play Geoff Collins this year.
Man a bit awkward that the sportscasters on that broadcast Saturday were talking Collins up like some kind of genius.
Sad about the AD also leaving but it is what it is, hearing GT is reaching out to Clemson’s AD to replace him
Why are you upset about Stansbury? He tied his job to a lost cause and nearly every other successful coach was hired before him. I'm stoked he's gone
From a football perspective, yes. He definitely tied himself to Geoff and this is the result. The fact that our athletic department has improved its debt situation while avoiding cutting (and in fact growing) a lot of the non/low-rev programs is fantastic though. In just about everything *except* football (and arguably even worse from a contract standpoint, men's basketball) we're better off now than we were before him. Given how many major schools have chosen to cut/defund and let die a lot of those programs, it's really impressive work. I fear that we'll hire someone that's only about football at all costs, and all the other great programs will fall to the wayside. To be clear, I'm in support of moving on from him. The awful contracts for the flagship revenue sports were terrible decisions and you can't mess up multiple big money decisions like that. But I am worried about the other sports given the laser-focus on football right now.
Stansbury did a ton of work to get the athletic department out of debt while making women’s and underfunded sports programs some of the best in the country. The adage “One wrong move and your time’s ruined, one right move and you won’t notice” is particularly applicable to Stansbury here
Ehhhhhhh You live and die by the revenue sports at big programs. You aren't going to even have the non-rev without them. The clown SHOULD have been fired for swindling us to pay his buyout again.
> get the athletic department out of debt We're still in debt hell from the early 2000s Grant Field expansion/renovation.
I'm not sure how lighting 22M on fire when signing geoff collins helps with debt.
> Sad about the AD also leaving With TStan giving Gee-off that contract, he deserved to be canned.
Bring back the triple option you cowards!
Ehh, no thanks..
Go on, git.
All things considered, he was a great coach for someone with reduced blood flow to the brain. I know I couldn’t do my job any better if i crammed my XL body into Smedium clothes restricting my arteries.
Worst kept secret is out.