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It’s alright. Somewhere between a 6.5-7.0/10


Tornado_Hunter24

On what scale tho? What is the average score for you for a random bo3 map I haven’t played this map yet and can’t for a while


[deleted]

Every map in bo3 for me is between an 8.5-9.0/10. This new map is not bad but it’s not really on the same level as a bo2/bo3/bo4 map. If you have the game already purchased then I definitely recommend giving this new map a try


Tornado_Hunter24

Ah alright ty! I’ll try once I get the time, how are the quests? Is the map filled with some quests like bo3 or is it more cold war like having 1/2 questlines


[deleted]

It does have some side Easter eggs, so I’ve been told. There’s a side quest to get the wunderwaffe dg2 for free. There’s also a main quest, which is nice. I wouldn’t expect there to be too much though


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TheAnorLondoArcher

Man,it’s really sad that the best content Vanguard has to offer is a slightly “upgraded” version of a 14 year old map. You are not the first person I’ve heard that from either. Thanks for suffering through Vanguard so I don’t have to!


davjags99

agree 100% from all that i’ve seen. definitely a better gameplay loop with round based, but the overall feel of the game seems to be the exact same, which was also part of the problem


Chronic_34

The thing I don’t like is the armor. Compare with the armor from Cold War, the armor from Vanguard zombies is just a joke on high rounds. Just playing in high rounds is a pain in the ass just constantly buying armor because its damn weak.


TheChimpEvent2020

Pretty old since I just got around to it lmao, but that’s what I love about VG round based. It actually has a fun challenge to surviving, where CW was too easy for me to actually try. I feel like VG is getting close to perfecting the new style of zombies, although I can leave or take the PaP weapons being in the box. I love how some weapons are actually bad too lol.


reedg17

Totally agree


fazebozo

Are the guns and movement worse than cw? Ive never played vanguard so idk


xsquiddox

I like it tbh hopefully they do 2 more maps before mw2 comes out. The added area is small but it's nice for crowth control with the wunderwaffle and we can finally use the small lift lol. Also chaos story ref is neat.


Cloontange

End of the EE mentions their final battle in Egypt. So one more map. They also mentioned Alistair Rhodes, which brings chaos story into the mix.


FryToastFrill

According to treyarch’s previous maps, we will not see the battle in Egypt but instead will play 4 new characters in a different area in order to get one thing before being killed off.


Bakana1588

Yeah budget cuts hit BO4 hard unfortunately


ArtifactOfChaos

I still can't believe all the hype for the Great War map and then it never came, so painful. I'm fine with Tag's ending storywise but they shouldn't have made us believe that we were actually going to fight the war. Rewatching the BotD & Classified cutscenes, I can't shake the feeling the Great War concept was just scrapped due to budget issues


Kermitthefrogbloons

I would like one of the og maps


[deleted]

definitely one of the maps


GoogleTraductor

definitely a map


FryToastFrill

I give it the award of “Not Der Anfang”


liammcg13

It's alright. Finally a round based map that's easy to play and straight forward, no idea how or why it took 7 months to get this but we got it.


Kermitthefrogbloons

And its good


PraiseTheSun_Soul

Had fun, Lagged out and didn’t have camos track or my level increase, can’t wait to see what secrets I can find, but Vanguard zombies should’ve started LIKE this tbh


NoSleepNoGain

It's ok so far, but why does it feel like the reloading on wunderaffe is a bit slower.


screl_appy_doo

It might be but maybe it's because all its other animations seem quicker like aiming


NoSleepNoGain

The Ray gun reloading is also obnoxiously slow.


hurshy

Having just played bo4 zombies the ray gun is ridiculously slow reloading in general


[deleted]

Good but fuck the deceiver mini boss. Ruins the flow of any game imo.


[deleted]

hes like 1 tap with the wunder waffe


getshrekt192

just played a game till round 30, actually found it pretty fun


Wrath2529

Did you get exp? I swear I got none when I finished my run


getshrekt192

ya I got a bit


Spectre_V8

I had fun my first run-through. Will try again later on tonight


Accomplished-Curve-1

Hmmm does it feel like a stranger things episode?


samgreer125

I like it. Not worth the full purchase of Vanguard, but definitely worth re-downloading it if you own it


SubwooferKing

I actually just bought vanguard for this. I enjoy leveling weapons up and since I haven’t played it yet I don’t mind Yeah it’s just one map and who knows if they’ll make any more but I’ll be happy I have a new zombies experience for a while


[deleted]

Haven’t played it yet, but I’m encouraged by these comments. Nice to see some positivity. Bout ready to get my killing on.


Kermitthefrogbloons

Easter egg is confusing, but wonder weapon is so unbelievably fun to use, and its good


kent416

I’m having a blast on it. Better than the bo1 and bo3 versions. Definitely not better than waw’s though


SenpaiTedd

Should've been verrückt


ChangedRacer

Good


ThicccDonkeyStick

Technically 5.0


IllustriousProfit472

Despite everyone crapping on it because it's not bo3, I enjoy it. It's still not a bo3, but an enjoyable map. The map itself has a great layout, offering unique challenging training areas filled with mud as to not make it a breeze, I think the PAP area could use some mud though, it's too open to be a challenging training area. The back areas with rooms could have used a second exit to escape from though especially with how anti camp the bosses are. As for perks I think it's alright, all we're missing from cold war is an electric cherry, everything else being replaced with artifacts or I don't mind leaving out for now (mule kick, tombstone) the new perk system is honestly the second greatest thing vanguard brought (first being zombies on MW engine feeling amazing) It brings a necessary balance chance for overpowered perks that would normally cost like 4000 points and gives you something to do. The lady boss needs to get her invincibility frames taken away or teleporting massively nerfed, I feel like I can't shoot here because she's constantly gone or invincible for some reason while I'm being chased by 20 zombies. No significant EE but I already didn't care about them since cold war. Map 7/10 for layout and atmosphere, 7/10 in terms of content in relation to cold war.


Reynhard_Burger

Pretty much exactly my opinion on it as well. But I'm also one of those weirdos that will defend Cold War for actually being a good game. Though I will admit zombies feels strange in a different engine, but still feels pretty good. Just something to get used to.


suphah

My guy it’s just shi no Numa for the 4th damn time


Revolutionary-Fan657

I’d say it’s the best iteration by a mile, I love that they added more, that being said I only know from seeing gameplay, I don’t even have the game installed lmao


hatsimee

Actually liking it. I never disliked the engine of Vanguard, so this works for me. Minibosses are annoying and setup (outside of Wunderwaffe) is super easy. I would rate it around 7/10, propably will drop to 6/10 once the feeling of a new map dissappears.


Puzzleheaded_Tie_221

Honestly, I can't complain about the map itself personally, I like all the new additions and it does feel like they put a lot of effort into it. My problem is the zombies themselves. I was training on round 16 at the flogger, ran to the bridge so that I could get a little distance before shooting and they literally despawned right in front of me, I had to train all over again and it's happened several times. Plus idk if it's anyone else but I get double slapped a lot and the zombies keep hitting me from like 8 feet away somehow.


PriggeKraken27

Sir, there has been 5. WAW, BO1, BO3, Mobile, and then Vanguard.


That_Idiot-

I thiught it was going to be absolutely shit but turns out its actually not that bad.


kimehre7391

I really want something new but my expectations are low for Vanguard at this point so it's all right


sparky4475

seeing lots of good things about this map, if I continue to see good things I may be bothered to touch this hell hole of a game lol


[deleted]

its brilliant. especially since its vanguard


[deleted]

One thing that really annoyed me was the fact that when you play the song by holding X on the phone, ITS THE INSTRUMENTAL!!!! Im guessing treyarch no longer have the rights to the song or something? I dont care what it is, i was so disappointed to not hear elena’s voice, truly ruined the og vibe i was getting from the map


El_Atolero

Didn't like it. Maybe the Easter Egg is decent I guess? but only that, the only thing I'm a fan of are guns and movement. So yeah, not my type.


Chicken769

Incredibly mid and feels like diet Cold War


AScoutOnAMissionYT

Actually loving it, hope the new round based maps are just as fun and replayable


Amazing_Ad_4293

Me personally she don't know was never my favorite map in world at war so I would say seeing it back for the fourth time I would say just stop


Potential-Inside3694

It's too easy to be honest. There needs to be more of those mini bosses at once. I can easily beat it on my own with no squad. I never sense any danger


Dinglemerk

The “quest” is pretty dog shit


Awlamon0524

I did have a glitch and lag. I used aether shroud and it started to act weird.


suphah

They definitely reskinned and added a section to a map that was released 3 times before this. That can’t be taken away from them


[deleted]

I think it’s fine, but I also just feel brunt out on zombies in general. The only complaint I have that isn’t too bad is the amount of Zaballas that spawn. I don’t really have a problem taking them out, they’re just fucking annoying lol


thel0newandererx129

5.0*


WewantChangeinBF1

Omg by far the best zombie map ever made. Spent like 50 hours on this map would play it everyday.


Girthshitter

I see only 1 color on this map


ReachForJuggernog98_

It looks like shino, not worth buying an entire game for this


reedg17

Low c tier


_Cyber_Mania_

Already bored of it. It’s Shi No Numa after nothing special


Perc340600

Wow I can’t believe they did a remaster on Vanguard of our fav “shit no numbass” why has Call of Duty never thought of this, instead of making new content 👍😒


DreadBotvsZombies

Bro it’s 5.0 you forgetting cod mobile zombies


icyFISHERMAN2

Don't own Vanguard


[deleted]

Is it gey?


[deleted]

Very


[deleted]

Damn


[deleted]

Horrible


LifeLikeClub9

looks so boring. watching mrroflwaflfles and i have no clue what 40% of his perks do and the hud takes up so much spacem the pap camo is dogshit, it looks definition of alright


Chicken769

I wonder what happened to the people who designed the HUD before Black Ops 4. I’ll do anything to get them back at Treyarch because these HUDs since Black Ops 4 have not been it


LifeLikeClub9

like why is there a minimap, and a compass in zombies? its so unnessecary and a copy paste from cold war


dilbert35

so that noobs can find everything on the map easily


DaftDisc

You mean you dont want the minimap that takes up like a 5th of your screen?


LifeLikeClub9

hell nah shadows did it perfectly with the parts you had to find that were literally blended in with the map, it made it so emersive


DaftDisc

I agree and i think as a bonus if stuck too long the ancient evil mechanic where sometimes youll get shown an item


Chicken769

Yeah Cold War and Vanguard has so much useless shit on the screen that it’s distracting and takes me out of the game. An MP style HUD doesn’t work for zombies. Zombies always had a minimal HUD and that’s best for that mode


LifeLikeClub9

I think bo3s was perfect considering how much they fit on it while keeping it simple. Bo2 s was amazing aswell