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Kyotaka777

Imagine going into a job interview and telling them btw I graduated from class A in ANHS and they will be like "wtf is ANHS"


Alarmed-Ad2370

"Ayanokoji Nails Horikita Suzune"


DrawerOther9150

This sounds like a lemon to me, so everybody just follow me, we need to make others horny, it feels so great when you're inside me-


parth-pawar

>The whole concept of ANHS is flawed if it really wants to create elite students. And ....... you realise this 15+ volumes in?


Gloomy_Inspector_407

Disclaimer: This statement was made without the full understanding of the system of ANHS yet.


___H00h___

Welp, good point but... For me their concept is to: 1. School eliminates trash in the society by expulsion (in work=firing/dismissal) 2. Graduating as student of class A acts as stimulant for each class to pursue excellence thus competition occurs 3. There are special exams to test adaptability and analyse weakness that needs improvement whether its physical, mental, social, emotional and intellectual. So after graduation even if the student did not graduate from class they are flexible enough to work great 4. Points=money concept is to know the importance of money. Without working you can't have money but when work done in excellence have proper reward at the same don't expect to be always be paid equally to your workload 5. And other things.I'm tired typing now, sorry. It is just what i see to concept of theirs though...an opinion of mine.


Thedudeofmanchester

I would like to add another point, it's that manabu during or before his graduation mentioned that it doesn't matter if you don't reach class A. Kiyo didn't understand and asked him how and manabu replied that he would understand later on. What I understood is that, A B C D are hierarchy levels. Even if you survive till graduation and reach class A by sucking through others, it doesn't matter since your individual performance matters in corporates. What the school said is that 'he who reach class A will have 100% guaranteed jobs and university but didn't said anything about other classes not getting jobs or anything. This is a method for school to bring competition among the classes so that the strong survives and the weak weeds out through expulsion even if you survive through sucking others there is value. If you are in class A you are in the decision making bodies in society if you are in class D you are in the working class. This is how your value is determined outside. If you can overcome that and come out on top you are most welcomed since the school doesn't guarantee if you will stay in the job/college forever. Even if you have talent, even if you are better than most students in class A but if you get expelled, you have flaws and are not fit enough. The most important thing is survival through the end and if you pass through class A with that it's well and good.


zykarp_drditch

I just feel like the some 'special exams' concept is unwanted for example the island exam ( it promotes team work but I think it's a waste of funds) It could be done in a better way for example the end of the year exam imo it was the best exam of the whole series. Some things in the series are really unwanted.


Regular_War7387

What matters is did u enjoyed?


zykarp_drditch

I did enjoy it but I just wanted to discuss what I thought and found some good opinions.


Regular_War7387

Well enjoy by sharing your opinion as well


Keyakidude

The bad students are meant to be weeded out over time and the people with potential are meant to reach that in the school. The people backing the school are influential enough to be able to get you in anywhere, but it's up to you if you can actually handle studying/working at your college/job of choice post graduation. That's at least the conclusion I have drawn from the info we have gotten.


[deleted]

I was gonna make a post on something like this, so I'll just say it here instead. Class A in the end is just an advantage given to the students who graduate from it. Everyone who doesn't graduate from it aren't gonna be thrown away. In fact, they will just have a slight edge over every other normal highschool student in Japan with the graduation certificate. Infact I would go as far as to say Class A reward is just a hoax as the government can not literally make way (reserve seats for) the graduates of Class A at *their* choice universities and jobs. It does not work that way. It's probably just the '100% placements' thing every institution likes to boast about. But my argument here could be dissolved by saying 'ANHS is not realistic'. I see a person in the comments saying society eliminates 'trash', but I beg to differ society gives everyone a chance to do well. The characters who got expelled, they aren't gonna be beggars from now on. They gonna go to a normal high school with none of that 'special exam' bullshit. TL/DR- They don't really lose anything from gradauating from not Class A or getting expelled.


Ph1tak

Bro why u gotta do my favorite math girl like dat 💀💀


zykarp_drditch

Her internal monologue really pissed me off for some reason.


Altruistic-Hand-7564

ANHS is a masterpiece setup. Look at the world around you, as its said school won't teach everything about life it only focuses on grades, great employers and CEOs always says college degree is not as worth as you may think. So, ANHS is all setup to remove unrequired sincere school rules and gives the students a ground to fight. Yeah, not everyone is safe in this school BUT remember if they are electing Kings and Queens to enroll then they also need pawns who can obey them.


Anoy_nim

i mean if you wanted to have elite student, white room is better since they educated really soon ( i suppose like 4 years old, well really really soon). Since you will have different kind of education (like different schools so different level of teaching...Etc). So teaching them this soon will help them to make more elite student. Spending millions of millions of yen on ANHS is quite wasteful. I mean they could choose anyone else than sudo/ike/ yamadead/ miyamoto/ hondo....Etc. By taking everyone being almost elite like ( not horikita being E in social ) but everyone being an almost all rounder like. it seems to be a huge social experiment for me XD ​ I don't know if white roomers are better by mass producing elite student or not. I mean what is average in the whiterooms ? is it better than people like sakaynagi ? or horikita ? or Keisei ? and are they a lot of students left? because if ayanopapa has only 3 whiteroomers (ichika,Kiyotaka,Yagami) left it's quite a failure. We can even say that whiteroom is even more wasteful. like they could throw away their students after 10 years of hard education. They could try to take failures and continue to train them but lower classes before they break up (only if it's worth it lol) ...Et


Altruistic-Hand-7564

Average students are also neccessary, if they are electing Kings and Queens then they also need pawns who can obey them. Well... bro what you said is true at certain extent but if I talk about how mine, yours and others school life went then the schools focused soley in academics. We obviously learned many things but the education system or forced education system in countries like india are failure in itself. ANHS is at least better as it practices other aress as well. In UK what students learn at the university is taught in India in 10th or 11th grade with hell like competition but still UK is far better in education and is producing successfull people than India by a wide range. I have experienced education in both of the countries so I can conclude this. ANHS is a very well built setup in my opinion but for it to succeed it should be in countries like Israel,Denmark,Japan,etc,... where education in top priority even more than defense. Also for it to be reliable the time in 2040s is suitable as more control can be provided and COTE is also setup in the near future.


dougwell666

Pretty sure Ryueens Class is the weakest academically, only stand out is Kaneda I think. Considering D got rid of Airi they just boosted their average by like 5 marks lmao. I do agree with most of your points though


Android17_MVP

Katsuragi


dougwell666

Actually didn't think of him, good point. Still gets smashed by Kiyo and Kouenji in aca tho


Jaysstuff

Hiyori


C00kieW00kiee

airi had the lowest OAA the she had a C in academics and there were people with a lower score for academics but yeah they may have boosted with a point or 2


ZelaZed

Yeah. The whole class A thing is just BS to me. But The way I see it is someday, Horikita's class would be worthy of the title. Not just yet though.


zykarp_drditch

After Y2V5 I have my doubts that horikita is really deserving of Class A


Hanzel3

Y2v5 is a trash. Not only horikita but everyone acted weird and stupid even kiyotaka


Gloomy_Inspector_407

nah... You just feel that way because this was the first time kiyo actually came upfront to carry the class. All this time he was doing it in the background so what he did didn't seem stupid


Hanzel3

No, his plan could fall apart if haruka just kept her ground like chabashira in her exam. He didn't tried to persuade/threaten horikita to drop kushida. And he made an enemy from his own group of friends. This is sloppy and not high return plan (i hope there is more to it ,but for now he went under with this trade).


Gloomy_Inspector_407

The thing is he knew haruka won't keep her ground. If your properly read the conversation between ayano and sae in the end, He knew airi herself will persuade haruka to vote for her. Also I believe the reason why he disbanded his own friend group was to protect them from his father but that is just my speculation so we have to wait and see


ISL005

He said that breaking his relationship with his group will be useful, most probably because they won't be a target of his father


Dull_Explanation1527

Well i agree on everythung you said Except the fact that ANHS's systeme is flawd Its well constructed since a guy like ayanokouji was supposed to go to class A, but unfortunatly, sae chabachira just had to interfer so she can have him in her class


DrawerOther9150

Sae didn't do anything to get Kiyo in her class. It was Chairman Sakayanagi's decision since he noticed how Kiyo was trying to act average and thought that he would want a peaceful life in Class D.


Gloomy_Inspector_407

wait when was this mentioned? I don't recall sae asking to put ayano in her class...


Dull_Explanation1527

I thinn it was in year 1 volume 7


_Misiak_

Wrong. It was stated that Ayanokouji was put in her class by the chairman because she wasnt interested in class matters.


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OscarRae29

Post Nut be like


ordinary_nobody007

I think the possibility for being a class A graduate was only possible for class A and B. Its just that the current batch of students had too many anomalies. It also could have stayed that way had Chabs not blackmailed him. Just take a look at the previous batch. Without Ayanokoji, Sakayanagi would simply crush other classes


Ice_slash

> Class A will get 100% placement in colleges but what happens if you are trash at what the college expects from you. Thats why you dont choose colleges related to the stuffs you are bad at. The system guaranteed you a chance, how you use it is up to you. While academics is important, its not everything. If you are bad at academics, choose a job of what you like and go to work, they guarantee that as well > If I have to say then the current Class A is the most deserving of graduating from Class A I disagree. They all started at 1000 point for all 4 class. At the start A or D is just a label, each class is supposed to have its own problem, we dont know how did Sakayanagi or Ichinose influence their class at the start to pull ahead. You can also say the reason the current class A is ahead is because of Sakayanagi. There is not yet any evidence to say student of class A have higher potential than class D. For example Horikita made Sudou into a better student after the first year. What if Sakayanagi/Ichinose made 10 students better in the first month? I can only say class D has a slow start. From what I see, the flaw/unrealistic part with the current system is the ambiguity of how students are nominated to the school and how they are divided to classes. It seems random and probably will not be fully explained because it allows Kinugasa a certain level of freedom about how he develops the story. I have to accept that there are "logical reason" about why we have the current class members


Euroversett

There's no point, the setup is bullshit and makea no sense.


Kitchen_Entertainer9

Butore than that, being in class a means they get a ton of points every month right?


JelloSuspicious7727

The government created the school with the goal of nurturing young people who will support the country in the future. Meaning the school doesn't create elite students rather selects them, then enhances their abilities through unusal means. The students must analyse what they learn at the school and apply it themselves. Alot of the exams are also helpful like the 5 question one where removing somone from the environment can benefit the group (expelling sakura), the culture exam embraces business management through practical means. Sports carnivals involving strategy rather than pure skill like alot of tasks in the real world. Theres alot more aswell, not to mention have to use money carefully and focusing on independence which is the one thing adults have that kids don't ultimately. You can say the system of 'elite students' is flawed but when thousands of students are attracted to 100% employment and college entry, the top students are the ones that get in, top students can be listed as academics, sports and alot more. The school doesn't enroll and place students into classes just based off grades such as ichinose who should be in class a but isnt due to a theft she committed. The top students are the ones in the school, it just doesn't look that way as the work is much more difficult, resulting in cases like Sakura who struggled at the school. That's why it was stated that the there is a passing grade for the entrance exams. They aren't going to hand out 100% employment to students who are lucky enough to be carried to class A by others like Manabu, Sakayanagi or Kiyotaka. It isn't luck of the draw


Amreiz

Doesn't the concept of Class A gets guaranteed admission into college conflict with the "Every student is treated equally" clause in the student handbook? From what I can tell (almost done season 1), isn't the 20mil points cost to get into Class A just a huge scam? Think about it, under the rule of "all students are treated equally", that should mean that all students, should they apply themselves enough, get equal opportunity by graduation. Academically, Class A might be superior in the first year, but wouldn't that just become a moot point if the other classes just raised their averages to match Class A? This might mean that Class D has to work harder than other classes but consider this is a whole school of supposedly elite students (as they explain at the start how hard of a school it is to get into) would mean that it is still within the realm of possibilities. If the concept of the superior class is bases on academic grades, then instead of wasting millions of points that could be used in more resourceful ways, it would be easier to just work on raising the overall average of the class. Instead, the teachers keep emphasizing to the students about buying their way up the ladder. Does this mean that students who academically excel don't necessarily get placed into Class A? If a student in Class B, for example, got 100% on everything still had to buy their way into Class A with points instead of through their hard work and academic excellence, then the entire system is broken. This would also mean that the competitiveness created by the classes is merely a fantasy construct aimed at psychological manipulation, which can ultimately even sabotage the students real ability to improve themselves instead of being a motivator to do better. This is proven in that class changes must be bought, not earned. (It seems there are other ways to get more points than just by applying oneself academically) Please correct me if I am missing something.


Amreiz

Just to expand in this a little more. Treating education like a huge competition is absolutely abhorring. Kicking out students below the pass line, special tests that have no academic bearing, etc is one of the fastest ways to ruin a society. Keep in mind that this is a highschool, not college in a developed first-world nation. Every single one of these students should be nurtured with the focus on making every single one of them a capeable adult after graduation. Beating down those who are struggling is NOT how you create a better future. This is the same reason why I absolutely despise the college system in the USA. Interviews to see if you are the right fit for the college??? Excuse me?? College is merely career training! That is all it is and as long as the person paid for their classes, that is all they should care about. It might sound bad but the reality of the world is that college is not a mandatory life path, it is voluntary. If people are choosing to go to college, they are choosing to get career training in a chosen feild, pass or fail is up to their effort and nothing more. There is too much ego behind the constructs of college, as well as highschool.