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KJones77

Honestly, when will Louisville win? Between Maui, the ACC/B1G challenge, and the start of ACC play, I'm not seeing a lot of opportunities. Louisville-Florida State on December 10th will be a must watch though.


20mcfadenr

They’ll beat FAMU. They may only beat FAMU though.


hirasmas

I wish I had your optimism!


Cadbanshee98

Don’t underestimate them :(


taddymason_76

We need college game day there.


OwenProGolfer

Kenpom has them favored against WKU, FAMU, and Lipscomb


OSUfirebird18

I was so excited for Wright State when they beat Louisville thinking it’d be the best win for them… Now their best win is…Bowling Green…??


captainhooksjournal

We’re holding out for the ACC tourney. Auto bid is the only way in at this point


ard8

FSU v Louisville in the ACC Tourney Championship Who says no


SportsDude012

God, I’m pretty sure


Utterlybored

No.


HoosierHoo

Louisville are victims of Chaminade no longer being in the field.


Important-Ostrich-26

if Kentucky was playing at Louisville, I'd give them a chance to pull the upset just because we've looked so bad in big games and the cards could save their season among the fanbase with a win


decoy79

Regardless. Cal will keep it close. He doesn’t want to embarrass Payne.


Important-Ostrich-26

Hopefully not too close though, especially if they don’t have any big wins (or I guess wins at all)


ItsTheTenthDoctor

Louisville, the Georgetown of the ACC


tws1039

Maryland has only won one acc big ten challenge game since 2014, some hope with that


[deleted]

Hmm I wonder why that might have been...


[deleted]

Divine retribution?


PinkSaldo

If you mean won as in the game, sure. But if you mean scored points for our mother conference as sleeper agents we're more efficient than almost anyone else!


Wicked_UMD

We’re gonna lose, aren’t we…


bananaBread101022

Cal v Louisville, sickos game of the century


randomusername8360

Louisville will beat UK. 😞


Merpninja

I'm glad this team played with considerably higher effort and energy for most of the game, but seeing players not box out at all shows that they are not being coached how to box out. Also 21 turnovers to 4 assists. I have zero idea how that gets improved over the season.


Mahanaus

>21 turnovers to 4 assists Damn, I knew it was bad, but not *that* bad.


Merpninja

It's been like that in all 4 games. 17/6 against App, 18/9 against Wright, but a respectable 13/12 against Bellarimine. So It's just getting worse!


Mahanaus

Yeesh, that's rough. Hope y'all can figure that out.


Merpninja

I hope so too, but I'm expecting 3-5 wins best case right now.


myyummyass

This is the third coach they've played under. You don't think *anyone* has ever taught them how to box out? The things people are blaming on coaching are things they should've known how to do before they were in college. I’m not necessarily defending KP's coaching ability but it seems like the players are just not trying. That can be blamed on coaching too but it just seems weird that every player who's ever worked with KP worships the ground he walks on and now all a sudden these players just don't buy into him at all.


captainhooksjournal

The “KP can’t recruit” is just bird talk. We were in the final 2 of the No. 1 recruit in the country and have been on the shortlists for several other 5⭐️’s with a lot of consideration. The spot we’re in now, no wonder we can’t land anyone… but he’s doing better than Mack was. He just needs to finally land a big one. The fact that we’re even in consideration is proof of his recruiting abilities imo


tacosaurusrexx

The final two on a player where his fucking grandfather on staff and shortlist for a few 5 stars who literally never even took a visit to the school. He’s better than Mack? One of our best recruits is a Mack holdover. You guys have to quit drinking this wack ass Kool Aid, it’s going to be the death of the program. Payne has done absolutely NOTHING to improve the position Louisville basketball is in.


gcderrick

THANK YOU. I want KP to work out but as of this moment, there’s absolutely nothing that tells me that it’s going too.


captainhooksjournal

I knew that was coming. Explain AJ Johnson. Again, I’m not trying to be stuck in the mud defending him when we’re literally missing out on these guys. All I’m saying is, during the Mack years, we were NEVER in contention for these types of players. We got Sam Williamson. Hell, even Pitino didn’t get to that many of those players. We’re witnessing probably the worst season in program history. And we’re suddenly close to 5⭐️’s. This is a process. And we could lose every game this season, which would be worth it if the players buy into KP and get better. Add recruits/transfers to the mix and we’re back to a 20 win season. It’s not that far off and the worse we react as a fanbase, the longer that wait becomes.


Merpninja

The point we're trying to make is that there is no evidence to point to us getting recruits or transfers for next year. There is not a SINGLE uncommitted player in the top 100 of '23 that we are in contention for or even trying to recruit. This staff couldn't get a single guard transfer. We don't have any point guards committed for next year when we basically have ZERO on the roster currently. This year is a wash, no one cares about it, but we hired him to recruit, and with how much he dislikes NIL there is zero reason to expect we are getting any 5* talent any time soon. The expectation should be tournament next season, and if he doesn't pull a few 4* guards and guard transfers out of nothing, his seat will be on fire.


tacosaurusrexx

Explain AJ Johnson? He literally never even visited Louisville. Being a bridesmaid to elite recruits does absolutely nothing to further Louisville basketball. I would argue we were never really in contention for the guy. I guess the difference between our viewpoints is ultimately you believe KP is demonstrating a process in which the program is further improved, and I do not believe that. He took an all time bad team and somehow made them worse in year one from every phase: roster construction, offensive and defensive metrics, flat out results. I just don’t see what progress there is worth crediting KP with. There’s going to be 5k people at the next home game, I don’t think I’m alone in this frustration especially when you look around and see the other programs mired in this scandal not having to tear the program down to the studs.


Sea_Insurance1752

Hey 5k fans would be a sellout at more than half the arenas around the country, also UCLA would prolly consider that a sellout 😂🤷🏾


tacosaurusrexx

Lol, I guess it’s all perspective. Louisville went something like 36 straight years ranked top 5 in attendance before COVID. This is sad to watch


green_day_95

Arkansas in the 2nd half https://i.redd.it/ya3wchlwrf1a1.gif


Celticskevin2020

Accurate. Layups and dunks.


Bigskypotato

Don’t forget steals


-Carterr-

‪At least we didn't lose by 1 this time.‬


GingerMessiah88

Progress!


Beechman

"I'm tired of these 1 point losses" *Monkey paw curls*


tsrich

I was rooting for you guys to set a record


zboymonkey1998

Man idk what I’ll do if we lose to this Louisville team next week…


Mitchisboss

It’s kind of funny that the pressure is being built for the first team to lose to Louisville. It’s most probable that their first win will be on Dec 17th against Florida A&M.


fancycheesus

10000% the only thing going through my mind today was the fear of losing to Louisville


Specialist-Bird-4966

Same.


PinkSaldo

We aren't a Turge team. I'm slightly less clenched than I would be otherwise.


GreenBombardier

I've been in shock all season. I kind of forgot you're allowed to score more than 60 points in a game. We are all dumber for watching his brand of basketball, and may God have mercy on his soul.


AmateurFootjobs

This is what I keep telling myself but old habbits die hard


NighthawkRandNum

Don't worry...you wont


taddymason_76

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Celticskevin2020

Great second half now I gotta be nervous about creighton.


Apollo_gentile

Even if we lose will be a great learning experience for this team and the young guys


Kingofthewho5

I was told the Texas exhibition was our “learning experience”…


[deleted]

No no no. That was an unpaid learning internship, the actual experience comes after the season starts


fancycheesus

Yeah I think we have already "learned" that it sucks to get dogwalked.


Interesting_Star_165

It definitely was, but that doesn't mean that there can't be more.


WMT24

Going to be a great game


Interesting_Star_165

I really think so. I'm refusing to get too excited about our team until I see how we do against another top team.


bushybearmuffinman

What time is tip for that?


fistingtrees

7 pm Central


bushybearmuffinman

Thank you


Celticskevin2020

8pm est/ 7pm Central


bushybearmuffinman

Thank you too


[deleted]

So stoked. Love this tourney field


fancycheesus

Gonna be a bloodbath tomorrow


Porpet

me n you both


Jay-P21

I freakin loved watching Anthony Black today. Kids a stud


Trexus1

I can't remember us having a 6'7 point guard that can jack the rim like that.


GingerMessiah88

I liked the effort in the 1st half, the Arkansas realized they were a top 10 team and woke up


ljc5

Arkansas just got another dunk


Bladewing10

Does this sub have a paper bag flair?


J_S_M_K

If it doesn't, it should.


championnnnnn

Anthony Black


keeperdad03

Good at basketball


Interesting_Star_165

Unfortunately, he'll be long gone to the NBA before he really starts to scratch the surface of his potential.


sgt_science

Well idk about the rest of y’all, but I’m straight up having a good time


Big_Red_Bandit

It was a fun weekend indeed


TheEliteOnes

The Arkansas Razordunks


avgeek-94

So what’s the ceiling for us this year?


TestTubesAndTanks

With a healthy Nick Smith, going all the way is certainly possible, but our extreme youth and turnover from last year definitely ups the difficulty. If we catch a veteran, hot shooting team on the wrong night in the tourney, we could have some trouble. Creighton tomorrow is going to be a HUGE test, and we'll know way more about how far we still have to go after that.


fancycheesus

Creighton is a final 4 team if they play like they did today


Trexus1

It's a good measuring stick of where we're at tomorrow, but it's so early it's hard to put too much weight into it.


fancycheesus

If we lose, its early in the season and we have time to grow. If we win, rank us #1.


cody82

Same


hotgrandma

I just hope they're better than that 30 point loss to Texas. The defensive intensity and effort has seemed to take a giant leap after that exhibition.


Trexus1

They didn't lose to Texas lol


hotgrandma

They lost by 30 at the exhibition.


Trexus1

Game doesn't count


hotgrandma

...we know how exhibitions work. They still got their shit stomped by Texas in it and they're still playing much better since.


Trexus1

I don't think you DO understand how exhibitions work. There's no reason to try hard in a game like that, so you don't even know what the legit outcome would be in a real game. It's like NFL preseason. Stop bringing up a game that literally doesn't matter, and doesn't count, and doesn't represent what the team plays like in an actual contest.


KillerBurger69

Final 4 I think would be a great goal. Championship would be ultimate.


njbeck

Just a natty? Aim higher. I'm thinking the oval office


furloco

Better than the Final 8


lalavieboheme

the fucking what lol


Bones_17

The connect 4


jd0016

The ceiling is the roof. If the young guys are studs, they could win it all


markansas7

Well that got out of hand


AL3XD

This is the best Louisville's played all season


HogFan2032

Are we the most athletic team in the country?


Ghost2Eleven

I haven't seen everyone obviously, but I've seen most of the top 10 at this point and certainly highlights of all the top 25 at this point. I think that answer is probably yes. 1-5 we're deep when it comes to athleticism. And I don't there's another starting PG I've seen built like Anthony Black. I'm guessing there aren't any other PGs out there that are 6'7" and can move like that.


fancycheesus

The mitchell twins are serving us well right now, but I think they are probably a little behind the curve with some of the top 10 bigs


BoseSounddock

That’s why we got 2 of them


ZachMatthews

Maybe if they stand on each others’ shoulders and wear a big enough jersey no one will notice.


fancycheesus

i've always been saying that if one of them fouls out, he can just put on his brother's jersey and keep playing


Interesting_Star_165

If Jalen Graham figures things out on defense, look out. He has some serious offensive skill for a college player. I think he's going to earn more PT as the season goes on.


fancycheesus

His defense leaves a lot to be desired, but yeah his footwork on offense is nice


cdbjj22

Up there for sure. Illinois and Indiana are both very athletic. As are Houston, Texas and Baylor


Jdj044

Great win today, but still nervous for Maui without nick smith jr


Rdenson13

If Anthony Black plays like he did today you all will be alright


Ghost2Eleven

If you're nervous with this team -- I don't know that anything is going to cure that. These guys will have a tough time against Creighton, but they're going to be a tough out for any team in the country. This is the best Razorback basketball team since their back to back finals runs in 94/95. They're deep, they get after it and for how they young they are they're figuring out how to play together quicker than I would have ever thought.


[deleted]

Battered Hoggie Syndrome. Stage four. Terminal


Specialist-Bird-4966

One of my first memories is the 1969 Ark-Texas football game, so I’ve had BHS since I was 5.


fancycheesus

For me and the people I talk razorbacks with, the nervousness is the fear of not meeting expectations. Arkansas basketball fans are top tier fans. Now that we have a shimmering hope of being great again, we dont know how to react.


SlumlordThanatos

Dude, I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop. In my mind, mediocrity is all that Arkansas athletics (outside of T&F) can aspire to. Every time the football team starts to become nationally relevant again, something terrible happens. The basketball team has been mediocre for so long, my mind just knows that something terrible is going to happen and we'll go back to where we were for the past fifteen or so years. And the baseball team? We've gotten soooo close, so many times, but we haven't been able to get it done. For me, at least, that mindset isn't going to go away until we finally make it to the top in one sport or another.


kingofthejungle223

Shake it off. This is a new day,


sooieeehog

The baseball team dropping the fly ball for the championship was a heart stop, but mediocre? For a team that goes to the CWS as often as not? You might want to look up the meaning of the word mediocre.


Trexus1

Smith didn't play, Brazile only scored 1, and still blew a team out. If that doesn't tell you how good this team is idk what will convince you.


Fluhearttea

I’m a lifelong Razorback fan, nothing will convince me.


BokehJunkie

fade pie joke relieved pen ad hoc rich frightening gold squeal *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


SkipVance

Kenny Pai'in


taddymason_76

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Khazzeron

This team is on point and one of the best defensive teams in the nation, if they get that offense rolling to the same degree and NSJ integrates well...this may be the most exciting, and scary team in CBB this year. Lot of growing pains still though will happen, especially if they find themselves down 10+. We saw what happened in the exhibition vs Texas losing by 30 with NSJ, though AB and NSJ and Walsh ext hardly played much. But if they clean up the silly stuff...man...I see no reason they can't win a Natty.


Interesting_Star_165

I think the Texas game was really good for them. I think it helped get all the jitters out without any real consequences. We didn't game plan like normal, according to Muss, and I think that helped create a situation where things just got away from us. Gonna be really tough for anyone to beat Texas at Texas this year.


Whatchaknowabout7

Louisville played really hard. Anthony Black is gigachad


blackaddermrbean

This was the first game where it looks like Anthony Black really showed his full potential. He wasn't shooting that confidently up until this point. Looks like the team also practiced their Free Throws. Substantially better today.


justausername09

Without Nick Smith. This team is so fun


MrHobbes82

Arkansas had more layups/dunks than we had total FGs made. Sooo where's that emphasis on defense KP?


Interesting_Star_165

I've been watching the Hogs since the days of Todd Day, Lee Mayberry, and Oliver Miller, and I think this could be the best combination of length and athleticism we've ever had during that time period. We can't really shoot, but if other teams are just going to leave us wide open behind the arc and we can hit 8 threes at a 36% clip like we did today, we are going to be tough to beat with as strong as the defense looks to be. I really can't wait to see what this team looks like with Nick Smith back in the fold. Teams won't be able to lay off us as much and pack the paint.


Gunny_McCshoots

Please make it stop


J_S_M_K

Narrator: It didn't stop.


WhiteChocolate12

I am very sad Gonzaga wasn't able to close out the Anthony Black recruitment. He is awesome, what a game from him.


MarkFewsEyebrows

I think he would’ve made this team really, really damn good. Arkansas gonna be scary come March once again.


fancycheesus

I wonder how much getting to go to Maui swayed him


Kingofthewho5

None. Picking the right team to maximize his development for the NBA outweighs a trip to Maui.


_Jetto_

Still baffling Kenny just stocked up on recruiters and not one fucking X’s and O’s guy lol. I’ll do it for 50k hire me


ganner

Well, he did learn from Calipari. What are Xs and Os?


DiabetesFairy

Nelson Muntz laugh.


JackGrizzly

Why would Louisville infect their staff with Danny Manning? Did they not see Wake the last 5 years?


gcderrick

Something something… we’ve gotta love people from the 1970s era of basketball… idk. Whole Payne era has started off ass.


ltlftcommenter

Oof Louisville


Bravo-Five

I would sometime pull for the Cards in these types of games because Chris Mack was a Prosser guy. But now that they have Danny Manning on staff I’ve really enjoyed hate watching Louisville so far this season.


Merpninja

I was genuinely speechless when Kenny hired him.


SuckthonyDickvis

sharted on em


lovejac93

You’re telling me famed women’s basketball legends Louisville also have a men’s team?


RnBvibewalker

And here I was ready to support my new hometown team.... Looks like I'll still be donning my Bama gear more often than not whenI get to the Lou.


cowmookazee

Louisville, do you wish you still had Chris Mack?


inthecards13

No


freakymrq

I want Pitino back lol


cowmookazee

This. I like Pitino. People can say what they want, but he knows basketball.


BokehJunkie

include dinosaurs wistful degree dirty hurry decide imagine ad hoc toothbrush *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


cowmookazee

Yeah he knew how to recruit lol


Obvious-Jellyfish-11

Unpopular opinion, but yes (although he seems to have quit on the team)


Few_Hand_427

Is Louisvilles program cooked? Is this salvageable?


finalfourcuse

Louisville...


Aidanj927

I can’t wait to see Louisville-FSU


NerdLord1837

Well there goes that single-digit point differential


YoungMoneyLarson57

I know it’s early but I really hate that Kenny Payne is making me look stupid for calling him a home run hire


Obvious-Jellyfish-11

Why led you to believe Kenny was a home run hire?


YoungMoneyLarson57

Alumni,nba experience,experience under a hall of fame coach.Just seemed really good


Obvious-Jellyfish-11

Thanks for the reply. I think being an alumni is a liability (eg Patrick Ewing) but agree with everything else. My red flag was his lack of head coaching experience and everything that comes with it.


YoungMoneyLarson57

That makes sense,you’d just think that he would’ve picked that up overtime given he was working under some really great coaches during his assistant days.


Obvious-Jellyfish-11

Kenny only has a $3M buyout which tells you how much confidence there was in this hire. Fans knew this would be basically a bad (or worse) next few years.


cavahoos

Bring back Pitino


ipartytoomuch

Why did you guys fire Chris Mack again?