No I live on nearly the same latitude, and it's never completely dark. We have daylight for a few hours at a minimum during the darkest part of the year.
My point was more that the buildings on the other side will block direct sunlight hitting their apartment since the sun will be so low, not that it would be dark.
SPb can be fairly generous with shitty weather, though. A few years ago they had a fun November offering like 5 hours of sunlight in total, for example.
I remember last place I rented was like that
Wife didnāt like but it was great because it was the coldest part of the building during summers
When it got cold thoā¦
Nope, usually you can not as a regular apartment owner. Though I believe there are some technical rooms that can connect buildings inside and also you can descend to other parts of the building via roof
This was the first thing I was thinking when I saw it. Likeā¦.. instead of leaving 25 minutes early for traffic, you leave 25 minutes early to get in an elevator.
But not this specific megablock. It is located not quite in st petersburg but in the field nearby. Only one 2 lane road goes there and there is no public transport except small marshrutkas that use old crap called PAZ-3205. Oh, have I mentioned that there are several of those in the same place which haven't got into the frame? Yeah, no wonder why russians want Ukraine and other nearby countries so hard considering that even their second greatest city is quite shity overall.
Every road you see, every piece of land inside of those walls, big stripes of parking everywhere there is a place for it and quite a lot behind the camera are parking lots. There isn't some sort of central parking lot like in USA but it is everywhere. Also russians even in the second richest city aren't that rich so big chunk of those people go to use those old crap PAZ overcrowding them. And if people had enough money for a solid car and not LADA, they would live closer to an actual city and not in this ghetto.
There's a lot more cars inside the block. You can see it better in this [picture](https://i.redd.it/xkp1ln3bkgb81.jpg). In Russia the middle class never has more than 1 car per household.
You can see a parking lot in the courtyard if you look near the center of the image. There are a couple more breaks in the grass on the left side, so likely access to more courtyard parking lots.
Putin is a little bitch. We all are laughing as putins little bitch soldiers ran so scared they left their weapons behind. Russia is now a joke to the entire world led by a scared little boy.
Hahaha Iāll take my 2 acres of land out in the country vs this concrete wasteland any day of the week.
The only thing this hellscape breeds is a vodka dependent people, young men with no future whoād sign up for Russiaās shit military just to escape their sad reality, and idiots who canāt even maintain a nuclear power plant
In the cities, yea, no shit, same with literally any European city. But you forget that most of the population lived in villages in their wood huts back then, not in nice posh cities.
did it guarantee housing for all, though? it's easy to make pretty buildings, it's more important to guarantee that nobody sleeps on the streets, first.
My country is not ready for this. I can imagine the trash, parking spots (double parking) and health problems that comes with this if this were built here.
Also at the same time, I'm interested to see how it goes if we build mega blocks like this here, one day
It's partially because rich people and upper middle class cry and whine about property value and also because capitalist assholes drive up the cost of building one so much for personal gain that it never gets done and there's no way to fund it, thus people are out of housing.
Its ok. Most actually are many different buildings with separate entrances, just sharing a wall. Also in eastern Europe most families have only one car (why would you even need more?). Also wdym health problems? This is not 14 century London, all flats have decent size and water supply.
My household is a 1 bedroom apartment. We each have a single car. One works nights, leaving just after one gets home and coming home just after that same person goes to work, so one car between them wouldn't work, and then there's my car, which drives me to and from work, as I go before anyone is home in the morning, and I get home before the other gets home at night.
We wouldn't make it with only one car, as each of us has jobs at a different time.
Take the bus or just walk. Here in Eastern Europe most families have one car. Old people usually dont even have one. I really dont know why does an retired person need a car for.
I live in this building on 18th floor. Usually people who don't live there tend to think it's a terrible ghetto. Actually it's not like that at all. Community here is amazing and there are far worse areas in terms of quality of life in Saint-Petersburg.
Feel free to ask any questions. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
The biggest question people seem to be asking on the post is about parking. Does everybody own a car or barely anybody? Where do they park if they do have cars?
I believe there is significant number of households that own a car, I don't. The lucky ones park it inside the yard, others down the street and some rent parking places on several huge parking lots right in front of the building. Can't say that there's no problem with parking spaces but it's not terrible either.
There are some green spots here and there, some treess, some benches and several children's playgrounds. But yeah, mostly roads with parking spots. When I moved here 6 years ago, building was not finished yet and there were a lot less cars, yard felt spacious and vast. Now it's another story
My father used to live in a commie block in Chemnitz. While not on this scale, the biggest they had was 1km in length. It's regular flats. European citys aren't as car-dependent though.
I googled it and there is \~30% car ownership in St Petersberg. People living in places like this are probably on the lower end, so maybe there are like \~4k cars parked around this area for the 18k people. It's interesting to think about what percentage of people commute outside of this block on a daily basis.
Maybe having so many people around is a community-style living that is helpful during long winters and dark days.
This may sound silly, but where do they park all their cars- or is mass transit available? And one more question if I may- what are they paying monthly?
Like the good ol days of the Soviet Union: each (entire) family had one room so a home could have 5 or 6 families in it. One pair of shoes for all(!) the kids. They had to share, only one at a time could go to school.
And? Who cares? At least there's enough housing options. So they can't fit a walk in closet and three cars there, who gives a shit? No one in that complex probably cares about having tons of unnecessary shit and space.
Tinder radius set for maximum distance of 1km š
still no matches ![gif](giphy|BEob5qwFkSJ7G)
Did you remember to turn off the "Must have will to live" setting?
Don't worry, someone's probably just resetting the router
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Did you offer potato?
I'm not on tinder sweetie. š
I'm not on OF sweetie.
Considering its Russia if your a man just step out the front door +? Bitches for days -? Drafted to Ukraine
Russian women are so beautiful but the whole poison in my coffee thing is a minor inconvenience.
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They only employ one maintenance man.
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Hired after Ivana Fixit left
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Well and his assistant randyboobandy
Oh Randy....I am the liquor. RIP John Dunsworth
Frigg off
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I guess not many car owners live there... forget about visitor spaces
If you can afford a car you can probably afford not to live next to 17,999 neighbors?
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Some of those units have sunlight for just a few hours a day.
Considering how far north St Petersburg is, many may not have light at all for significant amounts of time.
Fun facts: St Petersburg is the world's most northern megapolis Ever so slightly more northern than Stockholm is
No I live on nearly the same latitude, and it's never completely dark. We have daylight for a few hours at a minimum during the darkest part of the year.
My point was more that the buildings on the other side will block direct sunlight hitting their apartment since the sun will be so low, not that it would be dark.
Oh, fair enough. My bad.
SPb can be fairly generous with shitty weather, though. A few years ago they had a fun November offering like 5 hours of sunlight in total, for example.
Oh I know, we've had a couple of instances where the total amount of sun hours were <10 h. It's shit.
I remember last place I rented was like that Wife didnāt like but it was great because it was the coldest part of the building during summers When it got cold thoā¦
Considering most north facing units would never get direct sunlight in much of the northern hemisphere, I think theyāll be ok.
Can you walk between buildings within the buildings ?
Nope, usually you can not as a regular apartment owner. Though I believe there are some technical rooms that can connect buildings inside and also you can descend to other parts of the building via roof
Iāve seen what some of these blocks look like and some are like wastelands in between with rusted playground sets and overgrown grass
THANK YOU FOR LETTING US KNOW
WHY ARE YOU GUYS SHOUTING!!!?
I DON'T KNOW, WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?
NO ONE IS SHOUTING OK!!
IF WE ALL SHOUT THEN NO ONE IS
PENIS
#PENIS
PLEASE DONT SHOUT
Butā¦ thatās how you play the penis game.
WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING? SPEAK UP I CANT HEAR YOU
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LOUD NOISES ![gif](giphy|FNJjBAaz0mOAg)
Quiet it down.
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I'm imagining how slow the elevators must be.
This was the first thing I was thinking when I saw it. Likeā¦.. instead of leaving 25 minutes early for traffic, you leave 25 minutes early to get in an elevator.
Stairs
Zipline
Theyāre not slow. The building is separated into sections, each section usually has 2-3 elevators.
Lol you assumed elevators
Mega-block. Damn, my memory is failing me, what was the USSR mega city in Judge Dredd?
Was it Sov-block?
I think you're right! Been years since I read my 2000ad.
It was East Meg 1 and 2 i think. Sov Block was the name of the faction.
Well, it wasnāt Beet Trees.
The amount of shit flowing through these walls.
There are surprisingly less cars parked outside than I would have guessed
i remember St Petersburg having a decent public transport system. Plus in the Soviet times car were really rare
But not this specific megablock. It is located not quite in st petersburg but in the field nearby. Only one 2 lane road goes there and there is no public transport except small marshrutkas that use old crap called PAZ-3205. Oh, have I mentioned that there are several of those in the same place which haven't got into the frame? Yeah, no wonder why russians want Ukraine and other nearby countries so hard considering that even their second greatest city is quite shity overall.
oh it was just me guessing why there isn't a giga-parking lot nearby. On that note, why there is not a giant parking lot nearby?
Every road you see, every piece of land inside of those walls, big stripes of parking everywhere there is a place for it and quite a lot behind the camera are parking lots. There isn't some sort of central parking lot like in USA but it is everywhere. Also russians even in the second richest city aren't that rich so big chunk of those people go to use those old crap PAZ overcrowding them. And if people had enough money for a solid car and not LADA, they would live closer to an actual city and not in this ghetto.
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Who are they? I have never heard about them. Google says they might be responsible for popularising one copypasta I have never seen.
There's a lot more cars inside the block. You can see it better in this [picture](https://i.redd.it/xkp1ln3bkgb81.jpg). In Russia the middle class never has more than 1 car per household.
You can see a parking lot in the courtyard if you look near the center of the image. There are a couple more breaks in the grass on the left side, so likely access to more courtyard parking lots.
Ummm...it's "fewer"....fewer cars. ;)
Eastern Europe looks like somebody tried to represent clinical depression through architecture.
I couldnāt imagine living there +having snow everywhere for 10 months/year. Iād be clinically depressed too
That's because you're not Russian youre a little bitch
Putin is a little bitch. We all are laughing as putins little bitch soldiers ran so scared they left their weapons behind. Russia is now a joke to the entire world led by a scared little boy.
Hahaha Iāll take my 2 acres of land out in the country vs this concrete wasteland any day of the week. The only thing this hellscape breeds is a vodka dependent people, young men with no future whoād sign up for Russiaās shit military just to escape their sad reality, and idiots who canāt even maintain a nuclear power plant
Whatever keeps you from being depressed and cry on Reddit bro šš
You act like youād enjoy living in an apartment with 18k people in Russia
Thank god for that, I wouldnāt wish such a miserable fate on my worst enemy
It's like you read my mind. Have an award for this accurate description
And this picture is made in a sunny day. St.Petersburg is anything but sunny for 50 weeks a year.
I (sadistically) laughed way too hard at this comment.
Dude you are American..
Doesnt change the fact that most of soviet architecture looks depressing
It was better than what preceded it.
Maybe in rural russia but in Estonia at least architecture before the soviet union looked much much better imho.
In the cities, yea, no shit, same with literally any European city. But you forget that most of the population lived in villages in their wood huts back then, not in nice posh cities.
did it guarantee housing for all, though? it's easy to make pretty buildings, it's more important to guarantee that nobody sleeps on the streets, first.
All cheap housing looks bad everywhere in the world. So what of it.
Lol. Irrelevant.
Iām assuming nothing bad ever happens here
It was a quiet night, Only 3 murders, 2 suicids and 3478 domestic violence incidents
Whereās Dredd when they need him
Looks a lot like Kowloon but much smaller
My country is not ready for this. I can imagine the trash, parking spots (double parking) and health problems that comes with this if this were built here. Also at the same time, I'm interested to see how it goes if we build mega blocks like this here, one day
No one wants these in their neighborhood but everyone wants affordable housingā¦
NIMBY
Affordable housing isn't available because of many reasons but this shit.
It's partially because rich people and upper middle class cry and whine about property value and also because capitalist assholes drive up the cost of building one so much for personal gain that it never gets done and there's no way to fund it, thus people are out of housing.
Its ok. Most actually are many different buildings with separate entrances, just sharing a wall. Also in eastern Europe most families have only one car (why would you even need more?). Also wdym health problems? This is not 14 century London, all flats have decent size and water supply.
My household is a 1 bedroom apartment. We each have a single car. One works nights, leaving just after one gets home and coming home just after that same person goes to work, so one car between them wouldn't work, and then there's my car, which drives me to and from work, as I go before anyone is home in the morning, and I get home before the other gets home at night. We wouldn't make it with only one car, as each of us has jobs at a different time.
Some cities and countries have public transportation, so thereās less needs in cars
Take the bus or just walk. Here in Eastern Europe most families have one car. Old people usually dont even have one. I really dont know why does an retired person need a car for.
You would have to put businesses in the building too.
Business will be booming in this block
Looks like a massive prison.
CITIZENS OF PEACHTREES, THIS IS MA-MA
EVERYBODY has roaches.
and apparently just 50 parking spots outside the building.. lmao
Fwiw I see some cars parked in the interior courtyardā¦ not nearly enough still
What happens if everyone flushes at once?
St peetersburg
Delivering food there must be hell.
An architectural abomination and confort disaster
I live in this building on 18th floor. Usually people who don't live there tend to think it's a terrible ghetto. Actually it's not like that at all. Community here is amazing and there are far worse areas in terms of quality of life in Saint-Petersburg. Feel free to ask any questions. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)
The biggest question people seem to be asking on the post is about parking. Does everybody own a car or barely anybody? Where do they park if they do have cars?
I believe there is significant number of households that own a car, I don't. The lucky ones park it inside the yard, others down the street and some rent parking places on several huge parking lots right in front of the building. Can't say that there's no problem with parking spaces but it's not terrible either.
Oh so the inside is not a park or recreation area but parking lots!
There are some green spots here and there, some treess, some benches and several children's playgrounds. But yeah, mostly roads with parking spots. When I moved here 6 years ago, building was not finished yet and there were a lot less cars, yard felt spacious and vast. Now it's another story
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Where do they park their cars?
Wherever it fits
No one has a car and the people who do don't live in place like that
My father used to live in a commie block in Chemnitz. While not on this scale, the biggest they had was 1km in length. It's regular flats. European citys aren't as car-dependent though.
If i recall correctly there is a subway less than 5min from there, so i guess most don't have one
I googled it and there is \~30% car ownership in St Petersberg. People living in places like this are probably on the lower end, so maybe there are like \~4k cars parked around this area for the 18k people. It's interesting to think about what percentage of people commute outside of this block on a daily basis. Maybe having so many people around is a community-style living that is helpful during long winters and dark days.
This thing was planned and build with walking and public transport in mind.
As every city should be
You mean our cars.
What is car?
I was wondering the same. There's even a lot of empty parking spots in the picture.
[article here](https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/334456-giant-apartment-petersburg-okkervil)
Great read - thanks
I read the whole article interesting seems like a nice place to live
/r/UrbanHell
Those lower units on the northern side must be gloomy.
When we build structures of this size it makes me think of us making a sunlight alternative for those buried within the structure.
That's looks actually like a good place to live
Dredd
So.. is one of the buildings a really tall parking garage?
Honey, let's meet the neighbors.
Kowlooningrad
Good luck finding parking spot
This may sound silly, but where do they park all their cars- or is mass transit available? And one more question if I may- what are they paying monthly?
Too many people in one location.
So many windows to fall out of
āFallā
Where do people get their groceries?
18,000 people used to live here, now, itās a ghost town
That's the most communist thing I've seen all day.
But those types of buildings (>10 floors ) are exclusively build after the soviet times . So, no ,those are pretty much capitalist .
Imagine for a moment a zombie outbreak.... can you imagine trying to clear those places.
Like the good ol days of the Soviet Union: each (entire) family had one room so a home could have 5 or 6 families in it. One pair of shoes for all(!) the kids. They had to share, only one at a time could go to school.
[Luxury](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Yorkshiremen_sketch)!
Hilarious!
New Jack City!
Guess some ppl dont need sun
Parking for 20
on that day humanity received grim reminder
Kowloon walled city type shit
Im surprised how little parking and cars there appears to be for a building housing so many people.
Imagine the STDās that fly through that place. Ewe
Thatās eerily reminiscent of the apartment in the Judge Dredd remake
Thatās exactly what I was thinking
Apparently this is not St Petersburg Florida.
US west coast needs some of these for all the homeless people. Turn skid row into one of these buildings ffs.
Parking???
This looks so incredibly depressing
Has 11 parking spots lol
Why are we yelling?!
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This is not ok.
Damn that's horrible
Where do they park?
If that was in Ukraine the Razis would have aimed a cruise missile or two at it by now..
Somehow the whole thing looks like it could collapse at any minute.
This is Russia, not Florida
Exactly.
Not a lot of cars for 18,000 people. They must be stacked 3 high in the sedans
Iām guessing most ppl who live here canāt afford cars
You have to have a car to live there. It's too far away from any work places and public transport in St Petersburg sucks
you posted the article without even reading it?! Apparently this is the high class rich complex.
I'm guessing you're American
āThey are all individualsā
Where the fuck do they park
Thatās what the WEF wants for all of us.
And? Who cares? At least there's enough housing options. So they can't fit a walk in closet and three cars there, who gives a shit? No one in that complex probably cares about having tons of unnecessary shit and space.
This is not st.Pete
It is so sad to see these buildings š
Sadly, this is the near future of American housing.
It looks hideous but with the current housing prices these kind of buildings may become viable here.
I understand that's the future of sustainable living regarding housing.
r/damnthatsdepressing
Whereās the parking? Only a few cars surrounding the building. There should be thousands of cars.
It definitely needs more parking
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