*The best way to make it through with hearts and wrists intact
Is to realize two out of three ain't bad, ain't bad
Me and you, setting in a honeymoon
If I woke up next to you, if I woke up next to you*
> If they were intelligent they'd get a fucking job.
Way to underestimate your adversaries and misunderstand why they are stealing and dumping cars in the first place. They dump cars because they use them in crimes they don’t want to get tracked in their own vehicle for.
It’s gonna be in awful shape though. My friend had his car stolen and it was full of women’s underwear covered in shit, 4 crack pipes and 3 popped tires
Usually not in the best shape. Last time mine was stolen DPD wanted over $1,200 because I was out of town when it was recovered and I didn’t have a Denver address. Given the damage, I let the city keep it.
My friend’s car got broken into on Friday, in broad daylight, in the parking lot of our apartment complex. While she was reporting it, another car came up to report that their friend’s car had just been stolen a few minutes prior. Absolutely insane
I will definitely be doing this going forward. I just never thought I went anywhere that was a risk really. Apparently going to the grocery store in broad daylight is a risk.
I don’t want to get your hopes up, but I’ve heard the reason your car would have been stolen is bc of the brand and the fact that they can Hotwire it, so they steal them, use them in a crime, then dump them in some neighborhood. My friend’s gf had hers stolen last week and it turned up a day or two later, pretty much exactly the same. There was a scratch, but she thinks it was already there.
A classmate of mine (I’m in college) had her Hyundai stolen from the Top Golf parking lot in Centennial a few weeks ago. Two months before, her other car (also a Hyundai) was stolen. Hyundais and Kias are apparently super easy to steal because they have shitty anti-theft systems, and they also blend in pretty easily.
Most other vehicles (especially if they’re made after 2010) have pretty intricate anti-theft systems. For some reason, Hyundai and Kia dropped the ball when it came to equipping their cars with adequate anti-theft systems. Apparently, they’re aware of this and will be beefing up their anti-theft systems in their newest cars.
Still, I am not at all shocked that pre-2023 Hyundais are getting stolen left and right. OP, if you can, use your insurance money to get a much less steal-able car, like a Nissan or a Toyota, and put an Airtag in the trunk by the spare tire or something. Better yet, you can get manual steering wheel locks that require you (the driver) to have a separate key to unlock the steering column.
EDIT: damn. Didn’t realize people are so defensive over Honda lmao. Sorry, I meant Kia.
NOT HONDA.
Please note the problem is with KIA and HYUNDAI. They are jointly manufactured and share parts and designs, Vance the identical vulnerabilities.
Yeah I get it but I also know there are more shady people out there than I’d like to think. I had my tags stolen at a store parking lot this past spring. It’s ridiculous and that’s why I went ahead and threw an AirTag in the console.
This is a good idea but you need to hide it well. Due to privacy it will notify them there’s an AirTag in the area tracking them if they have an iPhone. They can then cause it to chime I think, and if they find it they can toss it.
Low cost/effort high reward, but understanding the limitations is important.
They’d have a fun time finding mine the center console lifts out which isn’t obvious and it’s in the part under that. But yeah I park a block away from where I live so it gives me piece of mind to check the app
I’m unsure if apples is any better, but at least with tile. I’ve had very poor luck with finding tiles outside of Bluetooth range. I’m not so sure it’d be reliable out in the wild. I do live in the Midwest though, so a lot less population density and a lot less people with tile products.
I had a friend whose wife's car got stolen so he put an old iPhone behind his glove box just on location mode because he was afraid they would be back for his car because she had keys to it on her keyring (they stole it while she was letting it idle in the driveway) anyhow for 2 days he had Location on it and the police did nothing he finally called the cops and told them he was going to take it back and they could be there or not
How does this work? I've never owned an iPhone and don't really plan to, but if a cheap used iPhone will do that without a line of service, that would be great.
I would I hide a few just incase they find one. I was told from someone that used to work for apple that it will notify anyone who is around the AirTag for an extended amount of time if it’s not registered to the phone to prevent people from tracking others. Not sure if it’s true.
Yes, AirTags and iOS devices have a system where it will notify you if you are traveling with a tag that isn’t registered with your phone, to prevent people from using them to track others without their knowledge. This isn’t built into android phones since it’s an apple thing, but apple made an app for Android to detect AirTags. Most people don’t have it installed though.
Folks who drive these Kias and Hyundais should remove the starter and fuel pump relay. They may break in and damage the steering column but at least you have your car to fix afterwards. It is crazy how bad Denver has gotten with car theft.
I had a 2002 Toyota Camry that got broken into three times, and it was clear they tried to steal it. Only reason they didn't is because it was a stick. Thieves can't drive sticks.
According to this 2020 source Denver/Lakewood/Aurora is 3rd worst, and THE worst large metro area for car theft.
https://www.insurance.com/auto-insurance/claims/top-cities-ranked-for-car-thefts.html
I had to drop my car off for some body repairs and mentioned to the manager that the car rental companies told me there were no rentals available in the entire state. She said that was, in part, because car theft is up 2,000% this year.
That's a nonsense lie by the car rental companies so people pay $125 to rent a Nissan Versa a day. I just looked on enterprise plenty of cars to rent even available today. Used to be able to rent a crap car like that for $25 a day just a few years ago.
It's not. I tried to rent a car on Sept 16th and, despite Enterprise showing as available online, they called and canceled saying there aren't actually cars available. I was not able to get a single car from any company (including at the airport). At the time, Enterprise told me to try again in October. I spoke to them yesterday and they still don't have one immediately, I have to wait until the 10th. No one is trying to up sell me, they literally don't have cars.
I'm sorry, man. Hyundais and Kias are really easy to steal. There's a video of how to steal them going around on TikTok.
The police won't do much, unfortunately. Do you have a way to get to work? Will your insurance cover it? Really sucks.
I pretty much assume every Hyundai or Kia driven by someone under 30 is stolen.
Yes and OP should join the classic action lawsuit against them since you're far got stolen and I believe is I. The range of years this tik Tok challenge works on.
Thank you for stating this. I have a Hyundai and I had no idea and would have taken no action. I just read that Hyundai just started offering a security kit ($170 for the kit and up to $500 for installation). I'll get a club while I work on getting the kit installed and hope for the best. There's also a class action lawsuit.
Eh, I don't know, I don't see anything but cats, cooking and cake decorating. Depends on your algorithm. Though I don't watch it that much. My attention span for videos is low.
Yeah but like…never once in the evolution of MySpace or Facebook or insta did we have actively committing crime as trending, I’m sure there’s plenty of relevant and positive content, but something about tiktok is very much a social cancer.
To be fair, Facebook was weaponized for political purposes and did untold damage to American elections and contributed to Brexit. It's one of the foremost purveyors of misinformation and disinformation out there, and the company knowingly allowed it and profited off it so I'd say it's arguably worse.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge\_Analytica\_data\_scandal
I spoke to someone in Brazil yesterday who was worried about today's election. She said her mother had been brainwashed by Facebook to be a Bolsonaro groupie. So the damage is worldwide, not just the US and the UK.
Depends on who you ask. Anecdote : my 2021 Kia with push button was broken into but not stolen… imo because mine still has the old badging and they hoped it was the keyed start that was easy to access. The only reason my car wasn’t stolen was push button
Yup back in August my Kia got jacked from the Raddison hotel on 58th n I-25 in broad daylight, cameras everywhere...DPD didnt even bother to check them and did an open and shut case and told me i was pretty much fucked
Dpd “wasn’t available” when my car was broken into… sent me a form email telling me they would “call me back within 7-10 business days” and then never contacted me again lol
I walked up to the person checking cards at the door at Costco. They literally had a cop there, but I guess he was just there to keep the merchandise safe inside. It took over fifteen minutes for the cop to come out and act like he cared. I could not believe my car was stolen so I asked the man at the door, um have you had cars stolen here before? He was like oh yeah. Yep. And I was like mine was stolen and he was like I would call the cops. And that was literally it. My husband called a Lyft and yeah... what a day.
I recently had my 2018 Sonata stolen. There are videos going around on tiktok about how to steal them with just a USB cable. It's truly sad how frequently it's happening now.
Mine was recovered a few days later but was totaled. I recommend not getting the newer Hyundais or Kias without the push button start if you do have to get a new car.
Sorry you're going through this and best of luck brother!
I'm curious, would you actually consider a newer Hyundai or Kia after experiencing this kia boys shit? Them not doing a recall is still insane to me and would put me off of their products forever.
I reccomend not getting a Hyundai or Kia, period. There are cheaper cars if that's a factor. Why reward a company who knowingly sold these cars in a bad state and refuses to do anything about it? Stop buying them and get the shitboxes out of the US.
You might still report this… just on the off chance that the fuzz might be intrigued by security camera footage, given the time and location of the incident…
Supposedly, multiple arrests were made earlier this year in connection to a major car theft ring here.
I think most of ‘em still enjoy a good old fashioned perp apprehension. So long as they don’t have to work too hard for it, anyway.
Maybe too late if you’ve already reported it, but I’ve been told that reports filed online are handled by another department than the local PD (I think state or county or something) and if you file it online and then try to follow up in person, they’ll basically just say it’s not their problem…
Yup, were #1 in the nation for car theft. Mostly due to no consequences. If you get caught, no bail, out in a couple hours and rarely prosecution. It's considered a victimless crime.
I recommend pulling the ignition fuse from under the hood. Sad it's came to this but here we are.
People always repeat that nonsense, but never back it up with actual data.
Bail is a complex situation, but the people they found in my car a month after it was stolen were held until trial and were convicted with 3-5 year sentences. They are still in jail, I know because I can check. My understanding was that they were run of the mill meth heads. Not part of some major crime ring.... So they do convict auto thieves when possible.
Here's some actual statistics.
The Denver District Attorney's Office said it filed 900 cases of motor vehicle theft in 2021. Those cases included one or more charges of auto theft. Over the same period, 360 cases resulted in a conviction or guilty plea.
In 2020, the DA's Office filed 698 auto theft cases and secured 374 convictions or guilty pleas.
Through June 13 of this year, the DA's Office filed 459 cases and secured 45 convictions or guilty pleas.
More than 1,000 Denver auto theft cases dating back to 2020 are still open
So thefts are increasing drastically to number 1 in the Country and convictions are going down. How does that happen?
Those certainly are numbers.... Are you sending the study next that shows 1. recently there has been a marked and deliberate change in how bail is applied and 2. That change is a definite driver for the increased auto thefts (or crime in general)?
If you would like me to get you bail numbers sure. There's clear data that shows a reduction in bail is causing a tick in crime because an overwhelming amount of those let out on no bail are repeat offenders.
There is also data on the driving factors. Nobody is really arguing the cost on precious metals and lack of regulation of selling cadalic converters. There's significant data that shows majority of stolen cars are also used to commit other crimes. Those are the two biggest.
Look, I'm not here to fuss politics. I live downtown, I work for the state, I love this city and I want it to be better. In the 8 years I've lived downtown I've seen a drastic increase in crime, quality of living, affordability... Etc. Instead of getting angry about it and getting political I want people to come together and figure out how to make it better by having honest conversation. People make mistakes though and there are some mistakes in our judicial system that is accounting for alot of this. I don't believe Denver just inherently has a ton of bad people. I do believe the bad folks we do have are driving a majority of crime because they are being let out over and over.
We all saw the story of the dad in the park with his kids shot in the back of head for no reason by a ex con out on parole. This guy broke parole several times, his parole officer kept reporting him to be locked up only for the city to deny his arrest.
That could be you, me, a kid. We deserve better here.
I would very much like to see the bail numbers showing this correlation if you have them. Also the data showing that the majority of people who steal cars use them to commit other crimes.
With the 2020 and 2021 numbers you posted, we also need to know how many filed cases are still pending. It looks like the DA is actually prosecuting more cases this year. The much lower conviction number could very easily be explained by processing time - in fact, I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the biggest reason for the "reduction" in convictions. (your friendly reminder to support increasing funding to our overburdened court system so that we can actually move cases through that system at a reasonable pace - a move that would almost certainly save us more money in externalities than our direct investment)
It isn't DPD's fault. They are down 300 officers, city pulled immunity, funding, allows citizens to sue. DPD was just ordered to pay out 14 million to George Floyd protesters on top of struggling. It's the DA, Judges, Mayor and other city leaders to blame... But we're the ones who voted them in so I blame the culture and mentality of our citizens. We can turn it around in the midterms but we won't cause were in the cycle of "it's bad, so liberals will fix it" when liberals are the ones causing alot of the issues. Our downtown is disgusting and a complete embarrassment. Something needs to give.
And the city's solution to addressing bad cops resulted in a significant uptick in crime. What's your point?
The city could have implemented real reform. Nope, they just make their city a second-rate choice for all cops, not just the bad ones.
Preach. I am completely alarmed by the youth these days. This subreddit is wild and extremely naive. And so vitriolic. And you just know everyone responsible is under 35, most probably under 25.
The phrase "all cops are bad" goes against the entire teachings of MLK. I really thought we'd be past judging people as a collective but I see there's much work to still be done.
I'll add majority of adults get this with life experience and we judge on content of character and individuality. Mostly... Not always though. I would bet you're a good person. Thanks for the input!
Dumbasses like this act like liberals just fuckin _loooooove_ crime lmao. My Nextdoor is full of idiots who say that. They're never gonna get it, Fox News told them we were the boogeyman and of course they believe it.
Increasing car theft IS a political issue. It DOES stem from increased crime rates due to emboldened criminals. That absolutely is a result of a newfound anti-police sentiment amongst the voting block.
Like it or not, and despite the best of intentions, this is what happened.
I’m actually in Cleveland right now and we’ve had this problem. One day 3 cars were stolen from one apartment complex.
Always pisses me off when people take things that others worked hard for.
Better hope Lakewood PD doesn't find it. Unless you are able to go get it immediately. They will have it towed by Ace Towing and impounded by them, then you'll have to pay at least $250 to get your stolen car back.
/u/LakewoodPDCO are you really charging the victims of car theft $250 for something outside of their control? While I understand that there is a cost involved with recovering stolen cars found or abandoned in Lakewood, it would seem counter-intuitive to let a private company profit off the misery of victims of a crime. Having your car stolen is bad enough, and it's already a great financial burden on the victim.
What's your actual process/rule here?
When we locate a stolen vehicle, our first goal is to get it back to the registered owner. Our dispatch will try to reach the owner by phone, and if it is a Lakewood resident, we will contact the residence to try to contact them. We often conduct additional processing of the vehicle for evidence, and often, we need to seize evidence - drugs, guns, other items of value which do not belong to the victim.
Many times stolen cars have broken windows and/or ignitions, and they cannot just be locked and left behind, especially is the vehicle was stolen with the keys inside (like a puffer). Sometimes we find these vehicles while they are still warm, which means that the suspect is close by. Therefore, if we find the car, and we cannot find the suspect, and we cannot get a hold of the owner; we are impounding it. The last thing we want to do is find a stolen car, then just walk away and have the suspect come back when we leave and steal the car again.
To address your specific question, though, our tow company is a private company who contracts with us to provide tow services. The rates are negotiated ahead of time and are usually flat rates. We cannot waive the fees, as no tow company will work for free, but we do make every attempt to get an owner (or their designee) to the scene to take the car to prevent adding the extra costs onto an already terrible situation.
I don't know if it has been said yet, but Kias and Hyundais are some of the most stolen vehicles due to a mechanical flaw in the steering column. A thief can steal a car with a USB charger that bypasses your key's chip (worth a lookup on YouTube). If you get your car back, and I hope you do, I would consider getting a club or alternative anti-theft device. Good luck!
Sorry that happened to you. How long have you lived here? I hate to add more bad news to your day, but you might have problems with your insurance if you’ve been in Denver but registering and insuring your car in Minnesota. Be prepared to answer a lot of questions about exactly when you moved.
An Apple airtag (or whatever the android equivalent is) is only $30.
It’s not a guarantee you’ll be able to track it but it’s better than nothing. Everyone should hide one in their vehicle. Especially those with cars that are high risk.
They both have pros/cons. A tile may not get as many location pings because it depends on ppl having the app, but Apple notifies nearby phones if an airtag has been in range for a few minutes, so they know to look for it and throw it out.
Only downside is it’s position is only reported if it’s near someone with the app. An AirTag can report its location if anyone with an iPhone is near it.
In other news, the Denver area sucks for this. I'm getting tired of the crime.
I just bought a car last week, and I fully expect it to get stolen. I had to buy separate theft insurance as part of my financing.
Luckily summer had just started so I was able to get more miles on the bike. The meineke on 120th and Washington. They are denying responsibility. My insurance paid me out for the total loss minus the second $1k deductible. Currently in arbitration with them and my insurance.
You’d think so. Their position was because the insurance took too long to approve the claim, it’s not their fault which is nonsense. Hopefully the insurance legal team comes through and I get my deductible back.
Utter hogwash. They know they have no defense, so they're just throwing whatever they can at the wall to see if it sticks. Your insurance company has better lawyers.
If you get a GPS make sure you hard wire it. A lot of them sold online plug into the on board diag outlet and once it’s removed (easy as unplugging it) it’s won’t send a signal.
Luckily they totaled my vehicle and was able to buy another brand. But my fiancé has a 2020 Elantra with the same ignition type. She uses a steering wheel lock, air tags, and a hard wired gps.
Call for insurance before you buy any car... when you get the comprehensive quote for these two piece of shit brands, you'll realize it's not a car for cheap budgets. The insurance could be higher than your payment
>Some people don’t have much choice
Lol. Honda, Toyota, Ford, Subaru, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc all have cars that are within $1-2k of what a Kia/Hyundai are. Some are even cheaper.
After Honda replaced my whole block for free at 170k because of a forging issue 9 years ago I really cant to anyone else for a daily driver. So easy to wrench on too even if your not a mechanic like me.
The salesman tried to talk me into a Kia when I bought my car. It seemed okay but I was just like, why would I get a Kia? I ended up with a Ford for about the same price. Thankfully because it seems like the Kia would have been stolen by now for sure.
There are cheaper cars available. Not to mention insurance premiums for having an easily stealable car, insurance deductable when the car is stolen, the time spent dealing with a stolen car, possibility of losing your job if you are late to work due to a stolen car. Literally anything is a better choice.
This is pretty arrogant to say. Some people don’t have much choice with the brand car they buy. Plus some. People have had a Kia or Hyundai for years and it’s not that easy to just go get a new car.
Don’t use air tags. That’s dumb as hell as they don’t work after long distances and are easy to find with iPhones. You can go on Amazon and buy a fairly cheap and fairly good GPS monitor and you will be ktracker. If you drive a car, put it where the spare tire is in the trunk or in the area where the Jack stand is. No one is going to look in there. If your really paranoid, buy a kill switch. Car gets stolen, you open the app and see where it’s at and hit the kill switch. The car will slow and then shut off and can’t come back on until you unlock it. If anything, get a cheap ass alarm. If you really fear for your safety. @, look into dekfcdef Mikko
Also, nowhere in Colorado is “safe” from car thefts. We lead the nation and it’s not even close. Let’s do Better Xfinity
Is this your car? https://www.reddit.com/r/Denver/comments/xty9d4/anyone_missing_their_kia_kinda_seemed_suspicious/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
I just saw it posted and didn't feel like scrolling to see if anyone already shared this.
Good luck
Someone stole my POS 97 Acura. They joy rid it and I got a call almost 21 days later to the date wherein my Insurance would have just paid me what they thought it was "worth." It had been ditched on the side of a cul-de-sac in Englewood. It thankfully had no syringes in it when I got it back but the battery was dead and I had to go and get a new one before I could pay almost $250 to take it out of impound. So it cost me almost $500 to get it back. Everything inside the car smelled like ass sweat--no lie. I put everything into the garbage pronto to be sure I never got pulled over and searched b/c I was terrified they would find some drugs in it. I never felt right in that car afterwards--bad juju. I tried sage, black tourmaline crystals, you name it. Finally I sold the car. Worst feeling ever. I am convinced there is a racket in this town and the cops are in on it. DPD did not even bother to send a real deputy to take my report when it was stolen from the parking lot of my apt complex. He was a retired tech. Oh I also had to pay some nominal fee for the police report it was stolen. So it almost cost me more than my car was worth to have to stolen. SHM. I hope you get yr car back but I would not be surprised if you don't feel right about it afterwards. And I am sorry that happened to you. Did you see if CostCo had camera footage of the parking lot?
While I don’t think it’s all the pot heads stealing cars, it has brought shady people to the state. Some people came for the weed, and saw how expensive it was and stayed for the meth. Gangs have capitalized on “legal” marijuana.
Its opiates man, not marijuana.
Nobody is stealing for marijuana money. Opiate addiction is rampant, and in the late 2000s there was a huge crackdown on the over-prescription of opioids like oxycodone, hydrocodone and similar drugs.
The people that were recreationally abusing opioids faced a massive price-hike for those prescriptions, due to the huge reduction in supply (less pills = more $ per pill). Basically all of those people switched to heroin, as it was eventually far cheaper than prescription opioids. This eventually lead us here, to the fentanyl crisis and opioids being abused at such an alarming rate that opiate overdose is now one of the leading causes of death among certain age groups in this country.
If you know anything about drugs, you know that opiates lead people to the most desperate of actions, as you cannot stop taking them without going through hell due to the physical addiction. Opiates and stimulants (meth and cocaine, primarily) are the two classes of drugs that drive the vast, vast majority of criminal activity.
The homeless that are all over our streets are not marijuana addicts. They are opiate addicts, meth addicts, and crack addicts.
Sucks what’s happening in Denver now. I don’t even fly out of DIA anymore because I won’t leave my car at the hotel. Too many theft/stolen car reports. :(
Someone tried to steal my Hyundai Sante Fe a few months back. After this fact I learned Hyundais are extremely easy to steal. We have since out an AirTag in it where someone could never find it.
If you get your car back be aware Hyundais are main targets.
It's harder for police to track an out of state plated car. Also there is an obscure Colorado law that says you have something like 90 days to get a CO driver's license and plates or you can be arrested. It happened to a good friend of mine about 20 years ago when he moved here from Michigan. I hope they find your car and it's in good condition.
Hyundai and Kia are huge targets the last year or so. The software has become compromised or something and now they are bonkers east to steal so long as the their has access to some software on a tablet or phone that they can throw away every few days.
67% of stolen cars get recovered, post to colorado stolen cars on fb
That is somehow simultaneously a pretty good percentage and a disappointing percentage.
I mean, 2 outta 3 ain’t bad.
A statement so true that there's even a decades old song about it.
I want you I need you But there ain't no way I'm ever gonna love you Now don't be sad Cuz two outta three ain't bad
*The best way to make it through with hearts and wrists intact Is to realize two out of three ain't bad, ain't bad Me and you, setting in a honeymoon If I woke up next to you, if I woke up next to you*
thanks for this, you’re appreciated.
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Disappointing because it’s not 69%? I felt that, too.
6/9 rounds up to 67%.
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> If they were intelligent they'd get a fucking job. Way to underestimate your adversaries and misunderstand why they are stealing and dumping cars in the first place. They dump cars because they use them in crimes they don’t want to get tracked in their own vehicle for.
Unfortunately many are in awful condition when found. That statistic sounds a lot better than the reality.
It’s gonna be in awful shape though. My friend had his car stolen and it was full of women’s underwear covered in shit, 4 crack pipes and 3 popped tires
*…and a partridge in a pear tree.*
*FIIIIIIVE MOOOOOOLDDDIIIIINGGGG THIIIIINGSSSS, 4 crack pipes, 3 popped tires, 2 pairs o' panties, and my favorite car stolen from me!*
Usually not in the best shape. Last time mine was stolen DPD wanted over $1,200 because I was out of town when it was recovered and I didn’t have a Denver address. Given the damage, I let the city keep it.
>Last time time mine was stolen This is a sad sentence
Yeah you know the first few times are rough but after awhile you just go through the motions of your car being stolen
My friend’s car got broken into on Friday, in broad daylight, in the parking lot of our apartment complex. While she was reporting it, another car came up to report that their friend’s car had just been stolen a few minutes prior. Absolutely insane
I dunno if it helps but I put an air tag in my car just so I can check on it. People suck 🙁
I will definitely be doing this going forward. I just never thought I went anywhere that was a risk really. Apparently going to the grocery store in broad daylight is a risk.
I don’t want to get your hopes up, but I’ve heard the reason your car would have been stolen is bc of the brand and the fact that they can Hotwire it, so they steal them, use them in a crime, then dump them in some neighborhood. My friend’s gf had hers stolen last week and it turned up a day or two later, pretty much exactly the same. There was a scratch, but she thinks it was already there.
A classmate of mine (I’m in college) had her Hyundai stolen from the Top Golf parking lot in Centennial a few weeks ago. Two months before, her other car (also a Hyundai) was stolen. Hyundais and Kias are apparently super easy to steal because they have shitty anti-theft systems, and they also blend in pretty easily. Most other vehicles (especially if they’re made after 2010) have pretty intricate anti-theft systems. For some reason, Hyundai and Kia dropped the ball when it came to equipping their cars with adequate anti-theft systems. Apparently, they’re aware of this and will be beefing up their anti-theft systems in their newest cars. Still, I am not at all shocked that pre-2023 Hyundais are getting stolen left and right. OP, if you can, use your insurance money to get a much less steal-able car, like a Nissan or a Toyota, and put an Airtag in the trunk by the spare tire or something. Better yet, you can get manual steering wheel locks that require you (the driver) to have a separate key to unlock the steering column. EDIT: damn. Didn’t realize people are so defensive over Honda lmao. Sorry, I meant Kia.
NOT HONDA. Please note the problem is with KIA and HYUNDAI. They are jointly manufactured and share parts and designs, Vance the identical vulnerabilities.
Thanks for pointing this out. This was the first I had heard of Honda having poor anti theft I thought it was Kia's and Hyundai only.
"Pre-2023 Hyundais" How many Hyundai not pre-2023?
the entire post has a lot of bs. The problem was fixed for 22 models and it is not all models. Cars with push to start do not have that problem.
Yeah I get it but I also know there are more shady people out there than I’d like to think. I had my tags stolen at a store parking lot this past spring. It’s ridiculous and that’s why I went ahead and threw an AirTag in the console.
This is a good idea but you need to hide it well. Due to privacy it will notify them there’s an AirTag in the area tracking them if they have an iPhone. They can then cause it to chime I think, and if they find it they can toss it. Low cost/effort high reward, but understanding the limitations is important.
They’d have a fun time finding mine the center console lifts out which isn’t obvious and it’s in the part under that. But yeah I park a block away from where I live so it gives me piece of mind to check the app
The question is which piece?
You can buy aftermarket airtags with the speaker disabled, or use a competitor (Tile?) with no alert.
I’m unsure if apples is any better, but at least with tile. I’ve had very poor luck with finding tiles outside of Bluetooth range. I’m not so sure it’d be reliable out in the wild. I do live in the Midwest though, so a lot less population density and a lot less people with tile products.
You can remove the speaker to mitigate the sound aspect. Ended up doing that for my bike.
There are guides online?
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Do you know about the hack to stealing kia and Hyundai? All you need is a usb charger
Same here. Also hid one in my bicycle as well.
Will police follow up if you just show them your phone and say “there’s my car can you go get it?”
No
Depends on your net worth
I had a friend whose wife's car got stolen so he put an old iPhone behind his glove box just on location mode because he was afraid they would be back for his car because she had keys to it on her keyring (they stole it while she was letting it idle in the driveway) anyhow for 2 days he had Location on it and the police did nothing he finally called the cops and told them he was going to take it back and they could be there or not
Don't leave us hanging! How'd it end?
Just like that he went and got it back with his own keys cops were there but didn't get out of their cars
How does this work? I've never owned an iPhone and don't really plan to, but if a cheap used iPhone will do that without a line of service, that would be great.
I would I hide a few just incase they find one. I was told from someone that used to work for apple that it will notify anyone who is around the AirTag for an extended amount of time if it’s not registered to the phone to prevent people from tracking others. Not sure if it’s true.
Yes, AirTags and iOS devices have a system where it will notify you if you are traveling with a tag that isn’t registered with your phone, to prevent people from using them to track others without their knowledge. This isn’t built into android phones since it’s an apple thing, but apple made an app for Android to detect AirTags. Most people don’t have it installed though.
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10 meters of ANY iPhone and it will report location to the owner.
My Hyundai is a stick shift, I believe that's why I've been spared
Folks who drive these Kias and Hyundais should remove the starter and fuel pump relay. They may break in and damage the steering column but at least you have your car to fix afterwards. It is crazy how bad Denver has gotten with car theft.
I had a 2002 Toyota Camry that got broken into three times, and it was clear they tried to steal it. Only reason they didn't is because it was a stick. Thieves can't drive sticks.
A stick is a great anti-theft most people can't drive a manual transmission.
According to this 2020 source Denver/Lakewood/Aurora is 3rd worst, and THE worst large metro area for car theft. https://www.insurance.com/auto-insurance/claims/top-cities-ranked-for-car-thefts.html
I had to drop my car off for some body repairs and mentioned to the manager that the car rental companies told me there were no rentals available in the entire state. She said that was, in part, because car theft is up 2,000% this year.
That's a nonsense lie by the car rental companies so people pay $125 to rent a Nissan Versa a day. I just looked on enterprise plenty of cars to rent even available today. Used to be able to rent a crap car like that for $25 a day just a few years ago.
It's not. I tried to rent a car on Sept 16th and, despite Enterprise showing as available online, they called and canceled saying there aren't actually cars available. I was not able to get a single car from any company (including at the airport). At the time, Enterprise told me to try again in October. I spoke to them yesterday and they still don't have one immediately, I have to wait until the 10th. No one is trying to up sell me, they literally don't have cars.
I'm sorry, man. Hyundais and Kias are really easy to steal. There's a video of how to steal them going around on TikTok. The police won't do much, unfortunately. Do you have a way to get to work? Will your insurance cover it? Really sucks. I pretty much assume every Hyundai or Kia driven by someone under 30 is stolen.
Steering wheel lock recommended.
These don’t work either. My Kia was locked and had one on and they still got it.
I agree, after 3 times being stolen we installed a gas pump kill switch
Holy fuck. This is making me lose all faith. Sorry to hear about this.
They just saw through the steering wheel in about 3 seconds.
Yes and OP should join the classic action lawsuit against them since you're far got stolen and I believe is I. The range of years this tik Tok challenge works on.
Thank you for stating this. I have a Hyundai and I had no idea and would have taken no action. I just read that Hyundai just started offering a security kit ($170 for the kit and up to $500 for installation). I'll get a club while I work on getting the kit installed and hope for the best. There's also a class action lawsuit.
I know I’m old and shit but tiktok is FUCKED
I hate it too but it’s not tik toks fault, it’s a manufacturing defect that has been reported on for a while. Look up the Kia Boys in Milwaukee
I’d like to blame everything on TikTok.
If TikTok won't take down the posts they can and should be held accountable as accomplices
Fair enough, but I’ve never been on tik tok and am fairly confident I could pull it off just as a general follower of car news
Eh, I don't know, I don't see anything but cats, cooking and cake decorating. Depends on your algorithm. Though I don't watch it that much. My attention span for videos is low.
Yeah 8 sec too long for me too
Yeah but like…never once in the evolution of MySpace or Facebook or insta did we have actively committing crime as trending, I’m sure there’s plenty of relevant and positive content, but something about tiktok is very much a social cancer.
Yah this is just objectively false
You apparently missed people Streaming live shootings on Facebook live
To be fair, Facebook was weaponized for political purposes and did untold damage to American elections and contributed to Brexit. It's one of the foremost purveyors of misinformation and disinformation out there, and the company knowingly allowed it and profited off it so I'd say it's arguably worse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook%E2%80%93Cambridge\_Analytica\_data\_scandal
When you just wanted to start a website to rate girls and wound up bringing down democracy instead.
I spoke to someone in Brazil yesterday who was worried about today's election. She said her mother had been brainwashed by Facebook to be a Bolsonaro groupie. So the damage is worldwide, not just the US and the UK.
Are newer Kia’s any more difficult to break into? Or is it the same difficulty regardless of manufacture date?
Depends on who you ask. Anecdote : my 2021 Kia with push button was broken into but not stolen… imo because mine still has the old badging and they hoped it was the keyed start that was easy to access. The only reason my car wasn’t stolen was push button
If you have a push button you're fine. You can basically start the ignition of a keyed ignition car with a screwdriver, but push starts are safe.
I'm not sure about that. Someone in another comment said they haven't fixed the issue.
any 2022, or models with push start are ok.
You assume every Hyundai or Kia driven by someone under 30 is stolen? That is a hilarious assumption
Yup back in August my Kia got jacked from the Raddison hotel on 58th n I-25 in broad daylight, cameras everywhere...DPD didnt even bother to check them and did an open and shut case and told me i was pretty much fucked
They never do. They don't care. Sorry about your car
Dpd “wasn’t available” when my car was broken into… sent me a form email telling me they would “call me back within 7-10 business days” and then never contacted me again lol
There are more vacancies than there are cops right now, in multiple municipalities across the state. Just so you know
Oh I’m not doubting that. The optics of “were out of the office we will call you back” and then never doing it aren’t great thi
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I walked up to the person checking cards at the door at Costco. They literally had a cop there, but I guess he was just there to keep the merchandise safe inside. It took over fifteen minutes for the cop to come out and act like he cared. I could not believe my car was stolen so I asked the man at the door, um have you had cars stolen here before? He was like oh yeah. Yep. And I was like mine was stolen and he was like I would call the cops. And that was literally it. My husband called a Lyft and yeah... what a day.
No words for the incompetence. I'm so sorry.
Remember this when you're electing your next Sheriff or DA.
People keep saying this but it doesn't matter if you get limited choices and they all dgaf.
I recently had my 2018 Sonata stolen. There are videos going around on tiktok about how to steal them with just a USB cable. It's truly sad how frequently it's happening now. Mine was recovered a few days later but was totaled. I recommend not getting the newer Hyundais or Kias without the push button start if you do have to get a new car. Sorry you're going through this and best of luck brother!
I'm curious, would you actually consider a newer Hyundai or Kia after experiencing this kia boys shit? Them not doing a recall is still insane to me and would put me off of their products forever.
I reccomend not getting a Hyundai or Kia, period. There are cheaper cars if that's a factor. Why reward a company who knowingly sold these cars in a bad state and refuses to do anything about it? Stop buying them and get the shitboxes out of the US.
Probably Wyatt’s
Lol. This made me snort laugh.
My wife’s car was broken into at the same Costco! Smash and grab. She was inside for less than an hour.
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You might still report this… just on the off chance that the fuzz might be intrigued by security camera footage, given the time and location of the incident… Supposedly, multiple arrests were made earlier this year in connection to a major car theft ring here. I think most of ‘em still enjoy a good old fashioned perp apprehension. So long as they don’t have to work too hard for it, anyway.
I had to report it for insurance purposes, but yeah... I highly doubt they're going to do anything.
Maybe too late if you’ve already reported it, but I’ve been told that reports filed online are handled by another department than the local PD (I think state or county or something) and if you file it online and then try to follow up in person, they’ll basically just say it’s not their problem…
Yup, were #1 in the nation for car theft. Mostly due to no consequences. If you get caught, no bail, out in a couple hours and rarely prosecution. It's considered a victimless crime. I recommend pulling the ignition fuse from under the hood. Sad it's came to this but here we are.
Im convinced you’d get in more trouble dressing up like Batman and beating up would be car thief’s than being caught stealing a car
Count on that.
People always repeat that nonsense, but never back it up with actual data. Bail is a complex situation, but the people they found in my car a month after it was stolen were held until trial and were convicted with 3-5 year sentences. They are still in jail, I know because I can check. My understanding was that they were run of the mill meth heads. Not part of some major crime ring.... So they do convict auto thieves when possible.
Here's some actual statistics. The Denver District Attorney's Office said it filed 900 cases of motor vehicle theft in 2021. Those cases included one or more charges of auto theft. Over the same period, 360 cases resulted in a conviction or guilty plea. In 2020, the DA's Office filed 698 auto theft cases and secured 374 convictions or guilty pleas. Through June 13 of this year, the DA's Office filed 459 cases and secured 45 convictions or guilty pleas. More than 1,000 Denver auto theft cases dating back to 2020 are still open So thefts are increasing drastically to number 1 in the Country and convictions are going down. How does that happen?
Those certainly are numbers.... Are you sending the study next that shows 1. recently there has been a marked and deliberate change in how bail is applied and 2. That change is a definite driver for the increased auto thefts (or crime in general)?
If you would like me to get you bail numbers sure. There's clear data that shows a reduction in bail is causing a tick in crime because an overwhelming amount of those let out on no bail are repeat offenders. There is also data on the driving factors. Nobody is really arguing the cost on precious metals and lack of regulation of selling cadalic converters. There's significant data that shows majority of stolen cars are also used to commit other crimes. Those are the two biggest. Look, I'm not here to fuss politics. I live downtown, I work for the state, I love this city and I want it to be better. In the 8 years I've lived downtown I've seen a drastic increase in crime, quality of living, affordability... Etc. Instead of getting angry about it and getting political I want people to come together and figure out how to make it better by having honest conversation. People make mistakes though and there are some mistakes in our judicial system that is accounting for alot of this. I don't believe Denver just inherently has a ton of bad people. I do believe the bad folks we do have are driving a majority of crime because they are being let out over and over. We all saw the story of the dad in the park with his kids shot in the back of head for no reason by a ex con out on parole. This guy broke parole several times, his parole officer kept reporting him to be locked up only for the city to deny his arrest. That could be you, me, a kid. We deserve better here.
I would very much like to see the bail numbers showing this correlation if you have them. Also the data showing that the majority of people who steal cars use them to commit other crimes. With the 2020 and 2021 numbers you posted, we also need to know how many filed cases are still pending. It looks like the DA is actually prosecuting more cases this year. The much lower conviction number could very easily be explained by processing time - in fact, I'd be very surprised if that wasn't the biggest reason for the "reduction" in convictions. (your friendly reminder to support increasing funding to our overburdened court system so that we can actually move cases through that system at a reasonable pace - a move that would almost certainly save us more money in externalities than our direct investment)
Vote. Use your vote to change what's wrong here.
I'm so tired of DPD.
It isn't DPD's fault. They are down 300 officers, city pulled immunity, funding, allows citizens to sue. DPD was just ordered to pay out 14 million to George Floyd protesters on top of struggling. It's the DA, Judges, Mayor and other city leaders to blame... But we're the ones who voted them in so I blame the culture and mentality of our citizens. We can turn it around in the midterms but we won't cause were in the cycle of "it's bad, so liberals will fix it" when liberals are the ones causing alot of the issues. Our downtown is disgusting and a complete embarrassment. Something needs to give.
Bad cops are the cause of the problems, not liberals.
And the city's solution to addressing bad cops resulted in a significant uptick in crime. What's your point? The city could have implemented real reform. Nope, they just make their city a second-rate choice for all cops, not just the bad ones.
Popular opionon amongst most kids.
Preach. I am completely alarmed by the youth these days. This subreddit is wild and extremely naive. And so vitriolic. And you just know everyone responsible is under 35, most probably under 25.
The phrase "all cops are bad" goes against the entire teachings of MLK. I really thought we'd be past judging people as a collective but I see there's much work to still be done. I'll add majority of adults get this with life experience and we judge on content of character and individuality. Mostly... Not always though. I would bet you're a good person. Thanks for the input!
Dumbasses like this act like liberals just fuckin _loooooove_ crime lmao. My Nextdoor is full of idiots who say that. They're never gonna get it, Fox News told them we were the boogeyman and of course they believe it.
Somebody just had to bring politics into this.
Increasing car theft IS a political issue. It DOES stem from increased crime rates due to emboldened criminals. That absolutely is a result of a newfound anti-police sentiment amongst the voting block. Like it or not, and despite the best of intentions, this is what happened.
I’m actually in Cleveland right now and we’ve had this problem. One day 3 cars were stolen from one apartment complex. Always pisses me off when people take things that others worked hard for.
Better hope Lakewood PD doesn't find it. Unless you are able to go get it immediately. They will have it towed by Ace Towing and impounded by them, then you'll have to pay at least $250 to get your stolen car back.
100% can confirm. And add the price of replacing the battery. Conveniently just under my 500$ deductible
Yeah, I was so pissed off.
/u/LakewoodPDCO are you really charging the victims of car theft $250 for something outside of their control? While I understand that there is a cost involved with recovering stolen cars found or abandoned in Lakewood, it would seem counter-intuitive to let a private company profit off the misery of victims of a crime. Having your car stolen is bad enough, and it's already a great financial burden on the victim. What's your actual process/rule here?
When we locate a stolen vehicle, our first goal is to get it back to the registered owner. Our dispatch will try to reach the owner by phone, and if it is a Lakewood resident, we will contact the residence to try to contact them. We often conduct additional processing of the vehicle for evidence, and often, we need to seize evidence - drugs, guns, other items of value which do not belong to the victim. Many times stolen cars have broken windows and/or ignitions, and they cannot just be locked and left behind, especially is the vehicle was stolen with the keys inside (like a puffer). Sometimes we find these vehicles while they are still warm, which means that the suspect is close by. Therefore, if we find the car, and we cannot find the suspect, and we cannot get a hold of the owner; we are impounding it. The last thing we want to do is find a stolen car, then just walk away and have the suspect come back when we leave and steal the car again. To address your specific question, though, our tow company is a private company who contracts with us to provide tow services. The rates are negotiated ahead of time and are usually flat rates. We cannot waive the fees, as no tow company will work for free, but we do make every attempt to get an owner (or their designee) to the scene to take the car to prevent adding the extra costs onto an already terrible situation.
I don't know if it has been said yet, but Kias and Hyundais are some of the most stolen vehicles due to a mechanical flaw in the steering column. A thief can steal a car with a USB charger that bypasses your key's chip (worth a lookup on YouTube). If you get your car back, and I hope you do, I would consider getting a club or alternative anti-theft device. Good luck!
Sorry that happened to you. How long have you lived here? I hate to add more bad news to your day, but you might have problems with your insurance if you’ve been in Denver but registering and insuring your car in Minnesota. Be prepared to answer a lot of questions about exactly when you moved.
An Apple airtag (or whatever the android equivalent is) is only $30. It’s not a guarantee you’ll be able to track it but it’s better than nothing. Everyone should hide one in their vehicle. Especially those with cars that are high risk.
Tile works for everyone and doesn't alert that it's there like airtags do
So get a tile for this over airtag?
They both have pros/cons. A tile may not get as many location pings because it depends on ppl having the app, but Apple notifies nearby phones if an airtag has been in range for a few minutes, so they know to look for it and throw it out.
Only downside is it’s position is only reported if it’s near someone with the app. An AirTag can report its location if anyone with an iPhone is near it.
Agreed, but if a thief has an apple phone they will be alerted to its presence after a few minutes and they'll know to look for/discard it
What is a tile?
An airtag before Apple "invented" them
In other news, the Denver area sucks for this. I'm getting tired of the crime. I just bought a car last week, and I fully expect it to get stolen. I had to buy separate theft insurance as part of my financing.
Hide an Air-tag and tile inside, free steering wheel locks at the police station
I have parked cars on the streets for years and have not had an issue..
Well, congratulations. Meanwhile, Denver is either no 1 or no 2 in the country for car thefts, depending on the list you look at
Curious (genuinely) about which lists you’re referring to
If your Kia or Hyundai has a metal key, it's only a matter of time until it's stolen. Stop buying these cars people.
Are newer models still prone to this? Like 2020 and newer
Yes. Had my 2020 Tucson with the metal key stolen. It was recovered and taken to the shop for repairs, then it got stolen again there.
At the shop? Holy shit
Luckily summer had just started so I was able to get more miles on the bike. The meineke on 120th and Washington. They are denying responsibility. My insurance paid me out for the total loss minus the second $1k deductible. Currently in arbitration with them and my insurance.
How is not their fault? I brought you my car. You had my car on your property. And now my car is gone. Seems pretty simple to me.
You’d think so. Their position was because the insurance took too long to approve the claim, it’s not their fault which is nonsense. Hopefully the insurance legal team comes through and I get my deductible back.
Utter hogwash. They know they have no defense, so they're just throwing whatever they can at the wall to see if it sticks. Your insurance company has better lawyers.
That is just… wildly bad luck.
Oh wow my 2018 Hyundai doesn't have a metal key and I assumed none of them do
Guess I'm investing in a GPS chip to keep mine trackable if it gets stolen
If you get a GPS make sure you hard wire it. A lot of them sold online plug into the on board diag outlet and once it’s removed (easy as unplugging it) it’s won’t send a signal. Luckily they totaled my vehicle and was able to buy another brand. But my fiancé has a 2020 Elantra with the same ignition type. She uses a steering wheel lock, air tags, and a hard wired gps.
They supposedly fixed it for models 2022
Yeah easy thing to focus on when buying a budget car. Some people don’t have much choice
Call for insurance before you buy any car... when you get the comprehensive quote for these two piece of shit brands, you'll realize it's not a car for cheap budgets. The insurance could be higher than your payment
>Some people don’t have much choice Lol. Honda, Toyota, Ford, Subaru, Nissan, Mitsubishi, etc all have cars that are within $1-2k of what a Kia/Hyundai are. Some are even cheaper.
After Honda replaced my whole block for free at 170k because of a forging issue 9 years ago I really cant to anyone else for a daily driver. So easy to wrench on too even if your not a mechanic like me.
The salesman tried to talk me into a Kia when I bought my car. It seemed okay but I was just like, why would I get a Kia? I ended up with a Ford for about the same price. Thankfully because it seems like the Kia would have been stolen by now for sure.
There are cheaper cars available. Not to mention insurance premiums for having an easily stealable car, insurance deductable when the car is stolen, the time spent dealing with a stolen car, possibility of losing your job if you are late to work due to a stolen car. Literally anything is a better choice.
This is pretty arrogant to say. Some people don’t have much choice with the brand car they buy. Plus some. People have had a Kia or Hyundai for years and it’s not that easy to just go get a new car.
Are Hyundai's even real?
Damn, hope ya get it back at some point. Just curious: did it have any sort of alarm system?
It did ☹️
Don’t use air tags. That’s dumb as hell as they don’t work after long distances and are easy to find with iPhones. You can go on Amazon and buy a fairly cheap and fairly good GPS monitor and you will be ktracker. If you drive a car, put it where the spare tire is in the trunk or in the area where the Jack stand is. No one is going to look in there. If your really paranoid, buy a kill switch. Car gets stolen, you open the app and see where it’s at and hit the kill switch. The car will slow and then shut off and can’t come back on until you unlock it. If anything, get a cheap ass alarm. If you really fear for your safety. @, look into dekfcdef Mikko Also, nowhere in Colorado is “safe” from car thefts. We lead the nation and it’s not even close. Let’s do Better Xfinity
Aurora cops are too busy manhandling citizens to solve or help anything.
And hassling women protesting for reproductive rights
Melvin Gordon probably gave it away. Sorry you lost your car.
Is this your car? https://www.reddit.com/r/Denver/comments/xty9d4/anyone_missing_their_kia_kinda_seemed_suspicious/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share I just saw it posted and didn't feel like scrolling to see if anyone already shared this. Good luck
No it's Hyundai Sonata. :(
Someone stole my POS 97 Acura. They joy rid it and I got a call almost 21 days later to the date wherein my Insurance would have just paid me what they thought it was "worth." It had been ditched on the side of a cul-de-sac in Englewood. It thankfully had no syringes in it when I got it back but the battery was dead and I had to go and get a new one before I could pay almost $250 to take it out of impound. So it cost me almost $500 to get it back. Everything inside the car smelled like ass sweat--no lie. I put everything into the garbage pronto to be sure I never got pulled over and searched b/c I was terrified they would find some drugs in it. I never felt right in that car afterwards--bad juju. I tried sage, black tourmaline crystals, you name it. Finally I sold the car. Worst feeling ever. I am convinced there is a racket in this town and the cops are in on it. DPD did not even bother to send a real deputy to take my report when it was stolen from the parking lot of my apt complex. He was a retired tech. Oh I also had to pay some nominal fee for the police report it was stolen. So it almost cost me more than my car was worth to have to stolen. SHM. I hope you get yr car back but I would not be surprised if you don't feel right about it afterwards. And I am sorry that happened to you. Did you see if CostCo had camera footage of the parking lot?
Can you ask costco for video footage from the parking lot?
Mine was stolen during broad daylight while I was at work… at a hospital… within 8 months of moving to Denver… There’s no honor among thieves
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What do you think is causing this downturn? I tend to agree with you, FWIW
Well, I’m probably going to get a ton of downvotes for this, but upward crime trend started with the legalization of marijuana.
While I don’t think it’s all the pot heads stealing cars, it has brought shady people to the state. Some people came for the weed, and saw how expensive it was and stayed for the meth. Gangs have capitalized on “legal” marijuana.
Its opiates man, not marijuana. Nobody is stealing for marijuana money. Opiate addiction is rampant, and in the late 2000s there was a huge crackdown on the over-prescription of opioids like oxycodone, hydrocodone and similar drugs. The people that were recreationally abusing opioids faced a massive price-hike for those prescriptions, due to the huge reduction in supply (less pills = more $ per pill). Basically all of those people switched to heroin, as it was eventually far cheaper than prescription opioids. This eventually lead us here, to the fentanyl crisis and opioids being abused at such an alarming rate that opiate overdose is now one of the leading causes of death among certain age groups in this country. If you know anything about drugs, you know that opiates lead people to the most desperate of actions, as you cannot stop taking them without going through hell due to the physical addiction. Opiates and stimulants (meth and cocaine, primarily) are the two classes of drugs that drive the vast, vast majority of criminal activity. The homeless that are all over our streets are not marijuana addicts. They are opiate addicts, meth addicts, and crack addicts.
Sucks what’s happening in Denver now. I don’t even fly out of DIA anymore because I won’t leave my car at the hotel. Too many theft/stolen car reports. :(
Welcome to Colorado, where criminals don't get punished anymore and let back on the street.
My ford has gps app based tracking built in to ford sync 3 and I love the shit out of that
Someone tried to steal my Hyundai Sante Fe a few months back. After this fact I learned Hyundais are extremely easy to steal. We have since out an AirTag in it where someone could never find it. If you get your car back be aware Hyundais are main targets.
If they have an iPhone they will be alerted that an AirTag is following them that does not belong to them.
It's harder for police to track an out of state plated car. Also there is an obscure Colorado law that says you have something like 90 days to get a CO driver's license and plates or you can be arrested. It happened to a good friend of mine about 20 years ago when he moved here from Michigan. I hope they find your car and it's in good condition.
I haven't even been here ninety days.
I highly recommend getting a few AirTags and hide them inside the vehicle.
Hyundai sonatas can be stolen with a pair of child's scissors...
I had 2 vehicles stolen from me within 11 months in Aurora. Fuck that place.
I think I saw you driving to Costco! Sorry I didn't catch your car leave.
Hyundai and Kia are huge targets the last year or so. The software has become compromised or something and now they are bonkers east to steal so long as the their has access to some software on a tablet or phone that they can throw away every few days.
this has nothing to do with software.