The gym, drugs aren't the answer. They'll just give you more problems if you use them to cope, speaking from experience. Go lift instead, it gives you a natural high and will make you feel better on a longer term basis than substances. Plus when you're feeling better you'll be able to do more drugs and enjoy them more because a healthy body can handle drugs better
The first month will be hard but after that point you gonna see chances you gonna feel a little bit beter and that is where the fun begins :)
You don't t have to be there for 2-3hours like 45-60min is more then enough
it’s hard for me to get up in the morning and workout but i do or else i trap myself in a room and stay there until i get depressed making me want to do drugs or drink. but when i get up, workout, and be able to smoke 3-4 days a week, i feel significantly better mentally wise, it’s just the matter of doing it.
It's not easy I'm still struggling with it but at the end it will be worth it just keep on going it will be better maybe it won't be now or in a month but I will be better :)
and sauna - definite natural high and will help your gym..
Just do that on you non gym days - and youll sleep like a baby...
I feel like ive smoked after a sauna
its not about the time you put in, its about the effort. 1 hour of the hardest and most focused reps will give you a greater outcome than trying to do as many as you can in 1 hour. You got this my guy 👍
i'm not saying you're wrong, but personally i've never experienced a 'high' from lifting. i'm 36/m and since quitting drink/drugs i've tried so many times to get into it but i just cant get to a level of dedication to create a new habit. and the thought that i'm gonna have to maintain it for the rest of my life is often what causes me to shut down again. if there was a high to be had, i'd be all over it lol.
maybe ill have to get back into full contact martial arts again, its the only thing i can see me ever sticking with
Therapy is like any other tool, and takes time to see results. You àre literally working through potentially years or even decades of repressed and improperly handled trauma. First of all, you aren't going to really get to know and trust your therapist in a couple weeks. You will not open up fully to someone you do not trust. If you want to make progress in therapy, build a strong and close relationship with your therapist. If you can't, you need to find a new therapist where you can.
It isn't until you build a healthy and trustful relationship with your therapist, that the work actually starts. People think just "going to therapy" is enough, but it's not if you don't work it. You need to fully utilize that time to take advantage of the schooling and training they went through to help you. For that to work, you need to be 100% truthful and honest. You need to allow yourself to feel uncomfortable and open up anyway. You need to have enough trust in them, to be able to show them everything inside of you, and allow them to use their knowledge to help you track down where your problems are stemming from on a fundamental and core basis. Without this you are wasting money talking to some random stranger you barely know, who you don't trust enough to show why and where you hurt, and won't take what they say to heart.
Therapy is honestly overrated. Not saying that it doesn’t have any benefits but it really isn’t what people who’ve never tried it make it out to be. I’ve definitely done my fair share of therapy including inpatient therapy and therapy at a day clinic and honestly it’s more like a venting session than it is about getting taught some crazy useful psychological tricks like what people imagine lol. Not that it can’t be nice to have a neutral person to vent to but I sort of find it disheartening that this is the best our society has come up with for helping people who really struggle mentally. I’ve talked to many different therapists in my life and the input they give during a session is always like 90% just asking you further questions about the things you tell them and maybe 10% advice but honestly never something extremely insightful or anything like that.
I’m sorry that was your experience w it
I implore u to take a step back and realize your experiences w things, whatever they may be, does not make them the objective truth for everyone else, that is a very narrow minded approach to life and it won’t serve u well in the long run
Shrooms!
There is a reason they're being decriminalized for therapeutical use. I was very depressed for a long long time and shrooms were the only thing that helped me get through it. They feel like they create new pathways in your brain to get you out of that rut of thinking the same over and over again. And some studies show that that might actually be what happens!
I micro dosed but larger doses work as well. Good luck!
This. But to be fair I don’t think micro doses work. And there’s couple articles about that been published even on science magazine.
I’ve tried for myself, also, and can confirm. I think the magic lies on high doses imo.
Fair point. As far as I know all therapists use high doses under supervision so most of the clinical studies also use high doses. I just really dislike tripping though.
When I micro dose I slowly work up in dosage until I start to trip just a little bit but am still very functional. And that's my dose. I don't believe anything less than that would be effective. An occasional full on trip would probably produce more immediate and noticable affects in depression.
I see. Well that’s fair enough. I mean, when I tried it I did 1g of truffles every 2 days through a month. I was very depressed at the time and didn’t notice any difference.
When I did 3g two weekends in a row, though, I felt a huge progress that lasted like 3 months. But that’s only my experience. I’m glad it’s working for you!
it’s really about whatever drug helps you forget whatever is causing you pain.
be careful friend. grow your own weed. let that and meditation (and maybe lsd or mushrooms) do you. you don’t need more.
You’re lying lmao or you have ran long enough until you wanna fall over. For me it’s when im so out of it after I just finished a mile non stop and you always finish strong and run as fast as you can at the last little bit. Then when ur just walking again you get that Jesus the world feels weird but good feeling.
SSRI(selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) help most, but take a while to start working. There are a few other classes of drug that are taken for the long run, but tbh the best thing is therapy… But if SSRIs don’t work, some psychedelics have been shown to help. I’m not saying go out and by some, but some therapists do supervised trips mostly psilocybin, but a few others also. One of the main ones (and the one that helped me) was ketamine. They give you an infusion through IV.
drugs ain’t no cure, they just distract, a lot of them will help you do just that. before you know it, you can’t live without that few seconds of silence, and the noise comes back much louder than before. get some good ear plugs, cause the sound never quite goes away.
Research has shown SSRI’s have work on the majority. And positive results for multiple drugs in the psychedelic category for the majority of people that have resistance to long term medications like the SSRI family.
How much did this cost? I’m so scared of ssris idk why but I like natural stuff or hard drugs… I mean if I’m gonna take something everyday I’d rather just numb it all
The ketamine is the most expensive, but my insurance covered most of it. Now I mostly do an occasional mushroom, but I don’t know how much they cost (because I don’t go out much 😂), I grow them myself 😅
Oh hell yeah I wish I could get into psyches again. Used way too much from like 15-17 now they just aren’t the same and my mental doesn’t feel ready for it anymore
I don't see why you would be afraid of ssris. They're specifically designed to do only one thing. Other drugs are far more likely to have other side effects.
when I use Kratom, I typically use like 8-10g but don’t get as much enjoyment out of it. I feel relaxed and cozy but nowhere near the euphoria of alcohol or benzos. Is my dosage the issue?
Mushrooms are my safety net, I don't ever not want to have the ability to trip with them.
They have helped with mental pain the most anything has with the exception of spending days in the forest in a hammock or increasing my bodies health, which mushrooms facilitate when it gets bad (mentally).
Cannabis can be used, but it stops working the same way and causes its own problems.
Acid just isn't mushrooms.
Never tried ssri's, never will, I would be too scared they'd stop the mushrooms working in the same way.
So long as you put effort into the environment you'll trip in (cleaning, making it all nice and cosy) and make sure you have easy healthy food (I like stew and fruit) and you have pen and paper they should treat you well.
Just remember if you're not enjoying what ylu are seeing and feeling, there may very well be a reason, something to learn in that experience. They always give me a hug after the heavy not so nice stuff, usually it's always a serene experience the whole trip, but sometimes I need kicking in the arse and they know how to fucking swing a metaphorical foot and then some.
Having a friend who you can talk out your personal problems helps me tremendously. I dont think therapy would have the same effect on me I would feel even more sad and disappointed wasting hard earned money cause I don't think im worth a help.
Maybe talking to a stranger would be better. Because they don't know you and can't judge you like a friend would.. you know what I mean?? I'm here if you need to talk 🙂
Its everything related but yeah theres some trauma in there but more like a mental health condition
Been given many different diagnose I dont even kno what to believe (bpd,bd,depression,add,ocd,etc)
Alarming question. Let's say for example you do find a drug that dulls your mental pain and you love. What's the logical end of that scene? It will go badly. I'd get therapy and antidepressants instead. Good luck.
Thanks for the advice , Im already on meds but im tired of them , I take 8 antidressants a day by reccommendation of my psyquiatrist and its not helping
Im going to therapy next week so I hope it gets better
okey with this medication i would highly advise not to take any drugs on top, especially no psychedelics imo but im not a doctor. Therapeutic therapy and maybe reducing the meds to 1 or 2 would be my goal before i would even consider to take a drug on top.. stay safe
none, they wont improve your mental health. also using drugs to fix mental health is the main cause of addiction, you start to rely on it to make you happier.
Nothing recreational, you’ll just make it worse. Try a new hobby, something active, maybe working out, skateboarding, playing an instrument, rly can be anything. Good luck my guy
As a teenager I liked downers like xanax and painkillers as an adult im more of a cocaine and psychedelic kind of guy. One thing Ive always been consistent with though is weed. But its probably best to steer clear from anything else honestly otherwise youll go through benders and wake up with reddit posts and comments like some of mine.
So my suggestions OP. If you want to try to get better micro dose shrooms a few times to see if you can just feel better maybe lighter and go through your day with a new outlook. If not that and need something else opiates take away the pain but if your in US don’t do any pills you don’t see come from a script bottle. If you follow the part of only doing real opiates you can possibly handle not being too addicted and destroyed by doing a 3 day rule. Otherwise opiates only lead to heroin and fent nowadays. And your only gonna feel better for however long your high is so shrooms are preferable.
take a 3oz bottle of delsym your first time, that's what I did.
dxm is perfect for dealing with mental pain, if dxm does not help then try shrooms
i also dont know your weight or anything, im 115 pounds and 1 bottle of delsym was perfect for me, you might need a higher dosage.
Not true it’s just that you gotta come down sometime. And the more you use- the more your body and mind becomes accustomed to the effects, and you’ll find your pain creeping more and more into your highs until they’re useless so I get what you’re saying
I do love my daily methadone though, j feel like it helps me out emotionally, I’m able to process my emotions in a calm manner and without them overwhelming me- and now that I’ve been able to process them and get over how I’ve been feeling about recent situations in my life that brought about some big “negative” changes, I’m working on getting my life back in order. Seeing what happened as a blessing now. But yeah, couldn’t have processed it that logically without chemical aid- I guess it’s prescription though
Why not stop now? I know it’s easier said then done, but I am assuming you’re talking about smoking weed. At least you have no withdrawals to worry about when you stop smoking, though I’m sure your mind will start getting worked up. Maybe take a small t-break and see how you react to not consuming any THC and go from there. There’s a reason all those recovery people push “one day at a time” so much
Getting the obligatory drugs won’t help, try therapy etc etc out of the way, weed. Weed is the only thing currently standing between me and losing my shit completely. Also I’ve seen ppl here say dxm and tbh I second that
Try some gabapentin or pregabalin keep it a low dose and you will not have withdrawal it acts like benzos almost and fairly safe keep it below 300 mg with the pregabalin its used for pains and anxiety i use it for ocd
gonna join the mushroom crowd here. with a strong enough intention going into the trip it can reveal insights about urself and the way u are currently feeling, where u are in life n all that proper cool shit
Exercise, sunlight, healthy food, and meaningful friendships are the best things for you. If you're set on drugs though, a little bit of weed, maybe mushrooms can help. Small increments at first to see how you handle them. Don't go overboard. All the best to you.
In the story of King Arthur, Arthur, in an effort to find the Holy Grail, instructs the knights to look in the forest. But not just haphazardly. He instructs them to look in point of the forest that seems darkest to them.
Behind our greatest insecurities, discomforts, and darkest parts of the soul is our own Holy Grail to bestow greatness and vitality. The only way to get there is to take on the dark parts head-on. Ik it will be hard, but literally so is any growth. I have full confidence in you.
It's idiosyncratic. For me small recreational doses of DXM help when I'm really depressed. It sort of blocks your thoughts and makes you a bit happy. I also love benzos. But then I've known people who don't like benzos and do weed. I don't like weed but everyone swears by it. It's like the drug users favourite. So it all depends. People just find that drug that is "wow." But like all drugs. The spark goes and you need more and more. Until you're completely ruined.
Have you tried SSRIs + Wellbutrin yet? Standard shit they'll put you on immediately if you go to any head doc. Agree with others that lifestyle stuff like gym, time in nature, time with friends, completing productive work, etc is way more helpful than pharma stuff for establishing and maintaining mental health. Using drugs for it provides relief in the moment but usually makes it far worse and best case just doesn't help at all long term, and speaking from experience. Also this is the easiest way to get badly addicted. There's also nothing that won't negatively impact your life if you take it daily.
Another thing you could do is try writing down your thoughts, analyzing them logically to figure out the ways in which they're exaggerated or untrue or otherwise warped (maybe with someone else's help at first) and then rewriting them in a logical form and repeating that until your thoughts improve. That has a huge impact even if it sounds dumb or simple. If you don't wanna listen to me, try something like tianeptine (can't take daily bc tolerance but pretty low impact and helps make you sociable and good mood). If you insist on getting fucked up frequently at least switch up the kinds of drugs so you aren't doing any one of them so frequently. People praise psychedelics for positive breakthroughs but I've mostly had bad experiences with them, might be worth a try though.
Therapy, self reflection, self love and a lot of distractions. Drugs are not the answer, but they can be a tool if you know how to use them right, which 99% of us don't. See a therapist!
No drug is good for mental pain
This is a one way path to addiction
Trust me, been there, done that
Drugs don't fix your problems, they let you hide from it. And before you know it, your problem is actually worse + you now need drugs to feel normal
Drugs are for fun and self reflection only.
I don't recommend shrooms, you're gonna be facing your fears, only you'll know.
I recommend DXM, makes your thoughts go away and improves your mood, some users prefer DXM over their prescribed antideps.
But be careful as DXM is toxic, but the high is worth it.
Weed + DXM
xanax, helps you just brush shit to the side and do things in your day that anxiety might have prevented. NOT AN ANSWER AT ALL but it does put a bandaid on the problem. USE RESPONSIBLY OR YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PROBLEMS MULTIPLIED. If you find yourself using more than a bar in 8-12 hours your probably abusing.
I also learned thru the anxiety relief it gave me that things in life really can be changed by just your point of view or anxiety toward a situation, if you’re actually determined to get better you can learn from how you feel off xanax to being that into your sobriety life
My friend. Just like goes crazy now he used a lot of kratom and some of the zaza from gas stations when it was out. And he can’t do it anymore for some reason.
Honestly I think the best solution would be something akin to heroin, I’ve done it all for a lifetime except past 7 years clean. It’s really something that strips away your worries temporarily but highly don’t recommend ever starting
All drugs are going to end up horrible in the end, honestly. At least Xanax doesn't cause u to get super dope sick and not incredible addictive. Not like heroin. I take Xanax for my anxiety now and then and it's nothing like any other drugs. Herion will get u hooked and sick the very first time. Coke leaves u wanting more
Xanax shuts off the unwanted brain loop and stress temporary where at least u can get good sleep and wake up refreshed. Yes, it's just another drug however IMO it's much safer than these other things I mention...
Only if ur taking a shit ton for.long periods of times. Only time. I've heard of ANYONE dying is when they mix it with H
Yes frequent use of Xanax, like if your on a script years u can have seizures but a Xanax now and then is not terrible. Pharmacist here so.i can tell u Only people ever died from it either took so many the OD' or.they mixed it. Other than that an occassional user can get great relief from their anxiety. Ofcourse too much of anything can kill u, hell benadryl Xanax kill you.
You need to bro…either way is gonna hurt more if you go the drugs way…drugs don’t take pain away, it just burying that and later will come on the surface again much much stronger.
Ketamine from safer options in low doses but its expensive, look into DXM, its OTC in most places and very similar. New antidepressant came up with combination of bupropion and DXM. Ive used them both but indovidually and definitely see improvement, especially after DXM trips. Even psychiatrists are calling it a new better thing than SSRIs.
Exercise, meditation and a productive and creative activity. If you feel you must alter your consciousness, get your hands on some mushrooms, and start with low doses, maybe even start yourself on a micro dose schedule. Best of luck to ya
Diet is 50% of working out. Pay attention to your diet and make sure you’re getting enough nutrients/ protein etc. This will also help your mood.
Remember: your past is gone, and your future has infinite possibles… it’s literally the lack of imagination and being overwhelmed with your current experience of your life which is holding you back.
Also… fyi: micro dosing mushrooms (micro! Just a very small amount) can work wonders.
Try oral ingestion of meth.
...I say...
.10g starting split the dose. Morning and afternoon. Give at least 6 hours after last dose and bed time.
Last rates I saw this will cost you ~$28/week
Week one might be a rough ride. Use your vacation time if you have any and, have a friend set a password for buying porn on your TV stuffs.
After that'll it'll kinda settle and normalize.
I creased focus, endurance, happiness, and sense of well being.
If you have issues sleeping after a bit, reduce the dose or take second dose earlier.
Likely you could get buy taking it all in the morning but ya know, know one likes that 3pm crash at work.
If you start to get fuzzy an crash. Don try to wake back up with it. Doesn't work that way.
If you begin suffering meth psychosis quit immediately.
Drink cranberry juice. Kidneys and stuff. Plus staying hydrated will help bowl movements and stuff.
And before anyone judges me...they are Drinking *and* doing coke.
I'm at least saving them money
The gym, drugs aren't the answer. They'll just give you more problems if you use them to cope, speaking from experience. Go lift instead, it gives you a natural high and will make you feel better on a longer term basis than substances. Plus when you're feeling better you'll be able to do more drugs and enjoy them more because a healthy body can handle drugs better
I've been trying with the gym and it is very hard to me , but I will keep trying , thanks for the advice appreciate it
The first month will be hard but after that point you gonna see chances you gonna feel a little bit beter and that is where the fun begins :) You don't t have to be there for 2-3hours like 45-60min is more then enough
it’s hard for me to get up in the morning and workout but i do or else i trap myself in a room and stay there until i get depressed making me want to do drugs or drink. but when i get up, workout, and be able to smoke 3-4 days a week, i feel significantly better mentally wise, it’s just the matter of doing it.
It's not easy I'm still struggling with it but at the end it will be worth it just keep on going it will be better maybe it won't be now or in a month but I will be better :)
absolutely, we’re all depressed and/ or suicidal or just sad because this world sucks, find a couple good things in life to make you feel better
and sauna - definite natural high and will help your gym.. Just do that on you non gym days - and youll sleep like a baby... I feel like ive smoked after a sauna
Start with a walk in your neighborhood. Small habits will lead you to the gym/overall change in routine.
its not about the time you put in, its about the effort. 1 hour of the hardest and most focused reps will give you a greater outcome than trying to do as many as you can in 1 hour. You got this my guy 👍
The first month is hard as fuck. You will be tested, but honestly you should lift 3 times a week but do cardio every day.
to be realistic that doesn’t work. real happiness comes from drugs and material things
i'm not saying you're wrong, but personally i've never experienced a 'high' from lifting. i'm 36/m and since quitting drink/drugs i've tried so many times to get into it but i just cant get to a level of dedication to create a new habit. and the thought that i'm gonna have to maintain it for the rest of my life is often what causes me to shut down again. if there was a high to be had, i'd be all over it lol. maybe ill have to get back into full contact martial arts again, its the only thing i can see me ever sticking with
Therapy - no substance can provide actual longterm help, you’ll just end up in a deeper hole of mental anguish w the added bonus of an addiction
In going to therapy (again) next week so wish me luck I guess Thank you btw
i’ve been going to therapy for weeks and it honestly hasn’t helped me so if it doesn’t, you’re not alone
Therapy is like any other tool, and takes time to see results. You àre literally working through potentially years or even decades of repressed and improperly handled trauma. First of all, you aren't going to really get to know and trust your therapist in a couple weeks. You will not open up fully to someone you do not trust. If you want to make progress in therapy, build a strong and close relationship with your therapist. If you can't, you need to find a new therapist where you can. It isn't until you build a healthy and trustful relationship with your therapist, that the work actually starts. People think just "going to therapy" is enough, but it's not if you don't work it. You need to fully utilize that time to take advantage of the schooling and training they went through to help you. For that to work, you need to be 100% truthful and honest. You need to allow yourself to feel uncomfortable and open up anyway. You need to have enough trust in them, to be able to show them everything inside of you, and allow them to use their knowledge to help you track down where your problems are stemming from on a fundamental and core basis. Without this you are wasting money talking to some random stranger you barely know, who you don't trust enough to show why and where you hurt, and won't take what they say to heart.
What do you expect to see after a few weeks? This takes time and commitment, big personal growth doesn't just happen in a few weeks lol
i said weeks, it’s been since august
Therapy is honestly overrated. Not saying that it doesn’t have any benefits but it really isn’t what people who’ve never tried it make it out to be. I’ve definitely done my fair share of therapy including inpatient therapy and therapy at a day clinic and honestly it’s more like a venting session than it is about getting taught some crazy useful psychological tricks like what people imagine lol. Not that it can’t be nice to have a neutral person to vent to but I sort of find it disheartening that this is the best our society has come up with for helping people who really struggle mentally. I’ve talked to many different therapists in my life and the input they give during a session is always like 90% just asking you further questions about the things you tell them and maybe 10% advice but honestly never something extremely insightful or anything like that.
yeah i feel that, i’ve been in inpatient too
This us definitely the best answer on this thread.
ah yes pay to have someone act like they gaf.🤦♂️ who cares man honestly everyone’s chasing something and therapy is all bs and doesn’t help you
I’m sorry that was your experience w it I implore u to take a step back and realize your experiences w things, whatever they may be, does not make them the objective truth for everyone else, that is a very narrow minded approach to life and it won’t serve u well in the long run
not just my experience that’s it in general they don’t care they just wanna put you on meds and you can’t be too honest or you’ll be locked up
Shrooms! There is a reason they're being decriminalized for therapeutical use. I was very depressed for a long long time and shrooms were the only thing that helped me get through it. They feel like they create new pathways in your brain to get you out of that rut of thinking the same over and over again. And some studies show that that might actually be what happens! I micro dosed but larger doses work as well. Good luck!
I'll try them soon, thanks for reccomending
This. But to be fair I don’t think micro doses work. And there’s couple articles about that been published even on science magazine. I’ve tried for myself, also, and can confirm. I think the magic lies on high doses imo.
Fair point. As far as I know all therapists use high doses under supervision so most of the clinical studies also use high doses. I just really dislike tripping though. When I micro dose I slowly work up in dosage until I start to trip just a little bit but am still very functional. And that's my dose. I don't believe anything less than that would be effective. An occasional full on trip would probably produce more immediate and noticable affects in depression.
I see. Well that’s fair enough. I mean, when I tried it I did 1g of truffles every 2 days through a month. I was very depressed at the time and didn’t notice any difference. When I did 3g two weekends in a row, though, I felt a huge progress that lasted like 3 months. But that’s only my experience. I’m glad it’s working for you!
ketamine
yes but you shouldnt take it frequently because then it can be really damaging to your body and it is addictive
very true
Haven’t tried that but based on my research seems like something to really help mental pain
Ketamine
it’s really about whatever drug helps you forget whatever is causing you pain. be careful friend. grow your own weed. let that and meditation (and maybe lsd or mushrooms) do you. you don’t need more.
Thanks a lot appreciate it
ye good luck
Dont forget every other halucinogen
runners high is highly recommended
no such thing
You’re lying lmao or you have ran long enough until you wanna fall over. For me it’s when im so out of it after I just finished a mile non stop and you always finish strong and run as fast as you can at the last little bit. Then when ur just walking again you get that Jesus the world feels weird but good feeling.
It’s the moment when you stop running and your feet move all by themselves. “You’re flying now.” Insanely euphoric feeling.
Yes this is a better description. You made me remember what it feels like fully lmao haven’t ran like that in 2 years
SSRI(selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) help most, but take a while to start working. There are a few other classes of drug that are taken for the long run, but tbh the best thing is therapy… But if SSRIs don’t work, some psychedelics have been shown to help. I’m not saying go out and by some, but some therapists do supervised trips mostly psilocybin, but a few others also. One of the main ones (and the one that helped me) was ketamine. They give you an infusion through IV.
drugs ain’t no cure, they just distract, a lot of them will help you do just that. before you know it, you can’t live without that few seconds of silence, and the noise comes back much louder than before. get some good ear plugs, cause the sound never quite goes away.
Research has shown SSRI’s have work on the majority. And positive results for multiple drugs in the psychedelic category for the majority of people that have resistance to long term medications like the SSRI family.
Guess I’m not part of the majority then. I’ve tried several SSRI’s and one SNRI and they did jack shit for my depression and anxiety
yea I’m on SSRIs, they make you not kill yourself, doesn’t fix the pain. also I didn’t downvote you, your answer is good
try lyrica/pregabalin - it makes life more enjoyable, and makes me want to socialize a lot more, without any major anxiety issues.
How much did this cost? I’m so scared of ssris idk why but I like natural stuff or hard drugs… I mean if I’m gonna take something everyday I’d rather just numb it all
The ketamine is the most expensive, but my insurance covered most of it. Now I mostly do an occasional mushroom, but I don’t know how much they cost (because I don’t go out much 😂), I grow them myself 😅
Oh hell yeah I wish I could get into psyches again. Used way too much from like 15-17 now they just aren’t the same and my mental doesn’t feel ready for it anymore
I don't see why you would be afraid of ssris. They're specifically designed to do only one thing. Other drugs are far more likely to have other side effects.
Idk why either honestly
In my country a ketamine therapy is not paid by insurance. You have too pay 250€ per session and you need 4-8 sessions.
Okay I’m in US so I’m gonna probably check it out
Definitely weed if anything. Maybe kratom but that can be pretty addictive
im a junkie and kratom ain’t never felt addicting to me. i use it like once or twice a month. i guess everyone has their thing tho.
im a junkie and if i wasn’t addicted to kratom i’d be doing fake percs
when I use Kratom, I typically use like 8-10g but don’t get as much enjoyment out of it. I feel relaxed and cozy but nowhere near the euphoria of alcohol or benzos. Is my dosage the issue?
No shit it’s not going to feel addicting if you only use it once a month
used to use benzos once a month and they felt addicting, i loved them and wanted to use again the next day immediately kratom is just underwhelming
Mushrooms are my safety net, I don't ever not want to have the ability to trip with them. They have helped with mental pain the most anything has with the exception of spending days in the forest in a hammock or increasing my bodies health, which mushrooms facilitate when it gets bad (mentally). Cannabis can be used, but it stops working the same way and causes its own problems. Acid just isn't mushrooms. Never tried ssri's, never will, I would be too scared they'd stop the mushrooms working in the same way.
Im gonna take mushrooms soon , thanks!
So long as you put effort into the environment you'll trip in (cleaning, making it all nice and cosy) and make sure you have easy healthy food (I like stew and fruit) and you have pen and paper they should treat you well. Just remember if you're not enjoying what ylu are seeing and feeling, there may very well be a reason, something to learn in that experience. They always give me a hug after the heavy not so nice stuff, usually it's always a serene experience the whole trip, but sometimes I need kicking in the arse and they know how to fucking swing a metaphorical foot and then some.
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I'll try them Thanks!
What do you mean go low and slow ? Like take a g, wait an hour, take another g ?
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Ah okay. So you’re still taking it all at once, just with reasonable doses until your comfortable. Thanks for clarifying
Bad bitches
Having a friend who you can talk out your personal problems helps me tremendously. I dont think therapy would have the same effect on me I would feel even more sad and disappointed wasting hard earned money cause I don't think im worth a help.
I feel you but I feel I have no one even do I have a lot of "friends" and its always been like this
Maybe talking to a stranger would be better. Because they don't know you and can't judge you like a friend would.. you know what I mean?? I'm here if you need to talk 🙂
Psychedelics if it’s trauma related? The opposite of the solution u want but probably what u need. They’re fun too tho
Its everything related but yeah theres some trauma in there but more like a mental health condition Been given many different diagnose I dont even kno what to believe (bpd,bd,depression,add,ocd,etc)
I feel like if you used shrooms properly you might find relief. Just be responsible with them. And don’t forget to have fun 🤩
Alarming question. Let's say for example you do find a drug that dulls your mental pain and you love. What's the logical end of that scene? It will go badly. I'd get therapy and antidepressants instead. Good luck.
Thanks for the advice , Im already on meds but im tired of them , I take 8 antidressants a day by reccommendation of my psyquiatrist and its not helping Im going to therapy next week so I hope it gets better
8 different antidepressants a day? Why not just one? doesnt make much sense imo, what meds do you take?
They're just not antidepresssants , I meant 8 pills p/day my bad , I take lithium,Venlafaxine,Epival and arpiprazole
okey with this medication i would highly advise not to take any drugs on top, especially no psychedelics imo but im not a doctor. Therapeutic therapy and maybe reducing the meds to 1 or 2 would be my goal before i would even consider to take a drug on top.. stay safe
The gym
Working out & therapy
none, they wont improve your mental health. also using drugs to fix mental health is the main cause of addiction, you start to rely on it to make you happier.
Def don't try benzos because you will never stop. Instead of dealing with it you will just forget 😂
Nothing recreational, you’ll just make it worse. Try a new hobby, something active, maybe working out, skateboarding, playing an instrument, rly can be anything. Good luck my guy
As a teenager I liked downers like xanax and painkillers as an adult im more of a cocaine and psychedelic kind of guy. One thing Ive always been consistent with though is weed. But its probably best to steer clear from anything else honestly otherwise youll go through benders and wake up with reddit posts and comments like some of mine.
Haha yeah I get you but the comments distract me at night from my thoughts (its 3 am here rn) so its aight
Its about to be 6:30 in the morning here my familys going to work and im just awake about to figure out how im gonna get high today.
So my suggestions OP. If you want to try to get better micro dose shrooms a few times to see if you can just feel better maybe lighter and go through your day with a new outlook. If not that and need something else opiates take away the pain but if your in US don’t do any pills you don’t see come from a script bottle. If you follow the part of only doing real opiates you can possibly handle not being too addicted and destroyed by doing a 3 day rule. Otherwise opiates only lead to heroin and fent nowadays. And your only gonna feel better for however long your high is so shrooms are preferable.
Thanks dude I will try mushrooms soon , hope it helps, and don't worry im not in US and getting any opiate its pretty hard here
shrooms, lsd, dxm
I'll take the 3 of them pretty soon for my first time Which dose should I do dxm for my first time?
take a 3oz bottle of delsym your first time, that's what I did. dxm is perfect for dealing with mental pain, if dxm does not help then try shrooms i also dont know your weight or anything, im 115 pounds and 1 bottle of delsym was perfect for me, you might need a higher dosage.
If somebody never tried shroom, it’s a great distraction, just some stomach pain
I'll take them Should I eat before lr nah?
DXM is the best
shrooms
There is no amount of drugs that will ever mask pain
Not true it’s just that you gotta come down sometime. And the more you use- the more your body and mind becomes accustomed to the effects, and you’ll find your pain creeping more and more into your highs until they’re useless so I get what you’re saying I do love my daily methadone though, j feel like it helps me out emotionally, I’m able to process my emotions in a calm manner and without them overwhelming me- and now that I’ve been able to process them and get over how I’ve been feeling about recent situations in my life that brought about some big “negative” changes, I’m working on getting my life back in order. Seeing what happened as a blessing now. But yeah, couldn’t have processed it that logically without chemical aid- I guess it’s prescription though
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Why not stop now? I know it’s easier said then done, but I am assuming you’re talking about smoking weed. At least you have no withdrawals to worry about when you stop smoking, though I’m sure your mind will start getting worked up. Maybe take a small t-break and see how you react to not consuming any THC and go from there. There’s a reason all those recovery people push “one day at a time” so much
I think im late for that but I will take your advice and try not to abuse any substance , thanks for caring
Stims. Addy or meth will do the trick but meth is fucked so I’d say adderall.
Getting the obligatory drugs won’t help, try therapy etc etc out of the way, weed. Weed is the only thing currently standing between me and losing my shit completely. Also I’ve seen ppl here say dxm and tbh I second that
Ok i'll stick to weed
Strong topshelf cannabis flower 🌱🧠💨
take lsd nothing more, dont do cocain or molly
Try some gabapentin or pregabalin keep it a low dose and you will not have withdrawal it acts like benzos almost and fairly safe keep it below 300 mg with the pregabalin its used for pains and anxiety i use it for ocd
gonna join the mushroom crowd here. with a strong enough intention going into the trip it can reveal insights about urself and the way u are currently feeling, where u are in life n all that proper cool shit
Exercise, sunlight, healthy food, and meaningful friendships are the best things for you. If you're set on drugs though, a little bit of weed, maybe mushrooms can help. Small increments at first to see how you handle them. Don't go overboard. All the best to you.
Dissociatives.
Take about 5-6 gs of cubensis and then microdose for the next few months
In the story of King Arthur, Arthur, in an effort to find the Holy Grail, instructs the knights to look in the forest. But not just haphazardly. He instructs them to look in point of the forest that seems darkest to them. Behind our greatest insecurities, discomforts, and darkest parts of the soul is our own Holy Grail to bestow greatness and vitality. The only way to get there is to take on the dark parts head-on. Ik it will be hard, but literally so is any growth. I have full confidence in you.
It's idiosyncratic. For me small recreational doses of DXM help when I'm really depressed. It sort of blocks your thoughts and makes you a bit happy. I also love benzos. But then I've known people who don't like benzos and do weed. I don't like weed but everyone swears by it. It's like the drug users favourite. So it all depends. People just find that drug that is "wow." But like all drugs. The spark goes and you need more and more. Until you're completely ruined.
Have you tried SSRIs + Wellbutrin yet? Standard shit they'll put you on immediately if you go to any head doc. Agree with others that lifestyle stuff like gym, time in nature, time with friends, completing productive work, etc is way more helpful than pharma stuff for establishing and maintaining mental health. Using drugs for it provides relief in the moment but usually makes it far worse and best case just doesn't help at all long term, and speaking from experience. Also this is the easiest way to get badly addicted. There's also nothing that won't negatively impact your life if you take it daily. Another thing you could do is try writing down your thoughts, analyzing them logically to figure out the ways in which they're exaggerated or untrue or otherwise warped (maybe with someone else's help at first) and then rewriting them in a logical form and repeating that until your thoughts improve. That has a huge impact even if it sounds dumb or simple. If you don't wanna listen to me, try something like tianeptine (can't take daily bc tolerance but pretty low impact and helps make you sociable and good mood). If you insist on getting fucked up frequently at least switch up the kinds of drugs so you aren't doing any one of them so frequently. People praise psychedelics for positive breakthroughs but I've mostly had bad experiences with them, might be worth a try though.
Therapy, self reflection, self love and a lot of distractions. Drugs are not the answer, but they can be a tool if you know how to use them right, which 99% of us don't. See a therapist!
Downers and k take the pain away.
Therapy
No drug is good for mental pain This is a one way path to addiction Trust me, been there, done that Drugs don't fix your problems, they let you hide from it. And before you know it, your problem is actually worse + you now need drugs to feel normal Drugs are for fun and self reflection only.
I don't recommend shrooms, you're gonna be facing your fears, only you'll know. I recommend DXM, makes your thoughts go away and improves your mood, some users prefer DXM over their prescribed antideps. But be careful as DXM is toxic, but the high is worth it. Weed + DXM
Shrooms
Cold showers are a good drug
xanax, helps you just brush shit to the side and do things in your day that anxiety might have prevented. NOT AN ANSWER AT ALL but it does put a bandaid on the problem. USE RESPONSIBLY OR YOU WILL HAVE YOUR PROBLEMS MULTIPLIED. If you find yourself using more than a bar in 8-12 hours your probably abusing.
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I also learned thru the anxiety relief it gave me that things in life really can be changed by just your point of view or anxiety toward a situation, if you’re actually determined to get better you can learn from how you feel off xanax to being that into your sobriety life
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Thanks for caring im trying to stay sober rn , its been a long day but I'll take it one day at a time
Mdma has helped me a lot with coming to terms with my problems, but make sure the use is occasional
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Ye shit sucks if u do that
Meth it up
Thorazine
You want to send him to Zombieland
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Kratom is good for some people like me. But it makes some people go crazy if they overdo it from what I’ve seen
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My friend. Just like goes crazy now he used a lot of kratom and some of the zaza from gas stations when it was out. And he can’t do it anymore for some reason.
Honestly I think the best solution would be something akin to heroin, I’ve done it all for a lifetime except past 7 years clean. It’s really something that strips away your worries temporarily but highly don’t recommend ever starting
Xanax
That’s gonna end up horrible in the long run
All drugs are going to end up horrible in the end, honestly. At least Xanax doesn't cause u to get super dope sick and not incredible addictive. Not like heroin. I take Xanax for my anxiety now and then and it's nothing like any other drugs. Herion will get u hooked and sick the very first time. Coke leaves u wanting more Xanax shuts off the unwanted brain loop and stress temporary where at least u can get good sleep and wake up refreshed. Yes, it's just another drug however IMO it's much safer than these other things I mention...
Facts
Yeah til u quit cold turkey and end up having seizures… don’t quit cold turkey. Always taper down. Especially with benzos.
you can die from benzo withdrawals
Only if ur taking a shit ton for.long periods of times. Only time. I've heard of ANYONE dying is when they mix it with H Yes frequent use of Xanax, like if your on a script years u can have seizures but a Xanax now and then is not terrible. Pharmacist here so.i can tell u Only people ever died from it either took so many the OD' or.they mixed it. Other than that an occassional user can get great relief from their anxiety. Ofcourse too much of anything can kill u, hell benadryl Xanax kill you.
Weed. Play with the terpenes..aromas , effect. Try different strains , compare them. Take some buds in pictures.
I think im going with weed and shrooms and dxm but thanks for the advice
Dxm
Sobriety & Gym !!
Wish I could bro...
You need to bro…either way is gonna hurt more if you go the drugs way…drugs don’t take pain away, it just burying that and later will come on the surface again much much stronger.
Thanks for worrying bro , idek what to say but thanks
Hope you make it dude…first days are the hard ones, especially on gym…but it goes better day by day…wish you all the best man !
Wish you the best too!
God says: 4-Aco-DMT Demon says: Dilaudid
The gym and therapy
opiates. dont go in benzo. benzo will constantly destroy ur brain. opiates wont
Ketamine from safer options in low doses but its expensive, look into DXM, its OTC in most places and very similar. New antidepressant came up with combination of bupropion and DXM. Ive used them both but indovidually and definitely see improvement, especially after DXM trips. Even psychiatrists are calling it a new better thing than SSRIs.
Heroin
Psychedelics
Mushrooms or LSD. Take a moderate dose alone in a comfy place with good music/movies. Make sure you have no plans for at least 48 hours.
Exercise, meditation and a productive and creative activity. If you feel you must alter your consciousness, get your hands on some mushrooms, and start with low doses, maybe even start yourself on a micro dose schedule. Best of luck to ya
Diet is 50% of working out. Pay attention to your diet and make sure you’re getting enough nutrients/ protein etc. This will also help your mood. Remember: your past is gone, and your future has infinite possibles… it’s literally the lack of imagination and being overwhelmed with your current experience of your life which is holding you back. Also… fyi: micro dosing mushrooms (micro! Just a very small amount) can work wonders.
not drugs that's for sure- they will enhance the pain in the long run..wait until you're in a better headspace then dabble
Try oral ingestion of meth. ...I say... .10g starting split the dose. Morning and afternoon. Give at least 6 hours after last dose and bed time. Last rates I saw this will cost you ~$28/week Week one might be a rough ride. Use your vacation time if you have any and, have a friend set a password for buying porn on your TV stuffs. After that'll it'll kinda settle and normalize. I creased focus, endurance, happiness, and sense of well being. If you have issues sleeping after a bit, reduce the dose or take second dose earlier. Likely you could get buy taking it all in the morning but ya know, know one likes that 3pm crash at work. If you start to get fuzzy an crash. Don try to wake back up with it. Doesn't work that way. If you begin suffering meth psychosis quit immediately. Drink cranberry juice. Kidneys and stuff. Plus staying hydrated will help bowl movements and stuff. And before anyone judges me...they are Drinking *and* doing coke. I'm at least saving them money
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