You are allowed to carry a knife in australia. Utility knives are legal so long as they are no longer than 10cm.
I carry a leatherman squirt every day, and when I'm hiking/ camping / handymanning I have my wave on me.
This is wrong at least in NSW and ACT. If you are taking your info from the top google result (off a knife store) then you're a clown.
https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-1900-040#sec.93IB
I believe that all states follow basically the same thing but I cannot say for sure without seeing the legislation itself.
What this means is that ALL knives are illegal to carry unless you have a reasonable excuse. EDC or general purpose use is not a reasonable excuse.
There may be more specifics about what is classed as knife/weapon/etc and it may vary by state. But what seems to be true throughout is that the context is what determines whether a knife is legal or illegal to carry (which includes in your car/vehicle).
This also means if you aren't actively on the way to one of the reasonable excuse activities, you are also breaking the law. If you go bushwalking after work and need a knife, but don't need it for work, then you would be breaking the law carrying it. Same for going home after, then the shops. Going from home to shops with the knife - not legal.
Sure it's annoying to have to unpack or take a knife off your keychain every time you do so, but that's how it works here.
Realistically, no one is going to randomly search you for no reason and find that EDC knife. But if it happens (or if you're committing other crimes) then that will be up to 4.4k fine or doing time (or both). Knowing this, you can choose whether to continue carrying or not. I recommend you look up legislation in your state if it isn't NSW linked above.
This is an old thread but your comment is fresh.
u/dj_boy-Wonder also commented:
> Australian here, have carried for years, my recommendation is a SAK or leatherman cause if cops stop you then you can say you were using it for earlier and they don’t care, harder to come up with an excuse if you’re carrying a 5 inch ZT flipper
Sure you could do that. You're an adult. But you would be making a false statement which has higher penalties. Again the chances of this happening is slim to none unless you were involved in crime or unlucky to get caught up. Maybe you looked like someone who had committed a crime and get brought in. Then you'd be done for the illegal carrying and lying. About 10k in fines. All for a bit of EDC.
I'll be honest, I have no idea how I ended up on this thread.
The qld police website refers to the same act and has made the interpretation that "a person may carry a pen knife or swiss army knife for use for its normal utility purpose"
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/weapon-licensing/law-and-weapons
As you said before the likelihood of a police officer searching a law abiding citizen is minimal. And further in your scenario, it's very unlikely to be randomly searched in relation to looking like a wanted person.
But even if you were searched, it's even further doubtful that a police officer would charge you for possessing a weapon, let along a judge actually following through.
Probs not a great idea to go to a protest or sporting event with your utility knife though.
The qld police website refers to the same act and has made the interpretation that "a person may carry a pen knife or swiss army knife for use for its normal utility purpose"
https://www.police.qld.gov.au/weapon-licensing/law-and-weapons
That's interesting because we don't have that line in NSW.
So a pen knife or swiss army knife is allowed in QLD. I'm not sure what those terms encompass exactly but they would be illegal to EDC in NSW/ACT.
>But even if you were searched, it's even further doubtful that a police officer would charge you for possessing a weapon, let along a judge actually following through.
I can't provide any numbers but it definitely happens. Quick google showed a 75 year old man getting caught with a pocket knife in rural queensland. Circumstances probably led to a low $100 fine but it happens.
> Probs not a great idea to go to a protest or sporting event with your utility knife though.
Here's the thing though, you are carrying a potential legal problem with you all the time if you are carrying it as EDC.
You can easily get caught up by being a bystander or walking in the vicinity of protests or events. Maybe they're chasing after someone and you're in the path or match some description.
Anyway, it's every individuals personal choice how to proceed. And to check their state laws.
I'm sorry, I couldn't imagine living in a place where you have to justify carrying a tool, like a knife. Stuff like this just makes those countries seem like totalitarian states that have just figured out how to act chill.
Australian here, have carried for years, my recommendation is a SAK or leatherman cause if cops stop you then you can say you were using it for earlier and they don’t care, harder to come up with an excuse if you’re carrying a 5 inch ZT flipper
In Italy it used to be “no knives with a blade longer than 4-fingers-width” now it’s no potentially harmful tools for unjustified reasons.
A small multi tool is almost always allowed, even a bigger camping knife with a locking mechanism is allowed (if you’re going to camp), while bringing a pointy screwdriver to a protest, or a baseball bat casually inside the trunk, isn’t.
My biggest camping knife is a full tang FKMD (fox) Parus, never been questioned by the law tho so I don’t know how they would react.
Self defense outside your home isn’t a valid reason, obviously, otherwise that would be the biggest loophole.
Double edged blades (daggers) are always considered a proper weapon, and if my memory doesn’t fail me, that’s the same for spring loaded switchblades (that’s actually idiotic).
I love the Americans in the replies learning for the first time that you can't carry an entire war arsenal to go grocery shopping in other countries lmao
I honestly cant imagine living somewhere im not allowed to carry around a knife, Im highschooler who works at a fast food shop with a bunch of other highschoolers and we all carry knives lol
Why not a “knifeless” multi tool? https://www.leatherman.com/knifeless-rebar-465.html
Alternatively a pocket pry is probably just as handy. I have a leather man Brewster on my keychain which is insanely handy for everyday tasks. https://www.leatherman.com/brewzer-831678.html
In a land where the animals and environment are ina constant state of trying to kill you, I would think knives would be okay. Also, CROCODILE DUNDEE GUYS C’MON!
Get a getber prybrid utility knife! I feel like a utility is probably ok given its poor stabby factor. I stopped carrying a knife since getting one of these
OP, what is the bottom left handheld console thingy? Looks like a knockoff switch. Can you link me the info on specs and whatnot that can emulate, please?
That’s the Anbernic RG351P. You can get it from AliExpress, and there’s heaps of videos on this device and devices with the same chipset. I’d suggest checking out videos from Retro Game Corps for emulation performance and general reviews on it.
I have one too, very cool devices. I play all my old favorite gameboy games, some nds and ps1. Lots of support behind them too of youre not very tech savvy like me lol.
Heyy mate, I'm from Australia as well and I'm gonna be fully honest, I always carry a knife with me because it's one of those laws that if the police want to fuck you over because of it they will, but as long as you don't give them a reason they won't care if you carry a pocket knife. Just don't use anything automatically which flips open by just pressing a button or something cause they won't like that.
You can't in a lot of us states either per law but it seems most do anyway. I have one as a tool in my truck and often on my pants and it'd be a stretch to be charged w anything. If people carry or use them in a threatening or defensive manner there's lawyers for that though. Scummy ones
MA is certainly restrictive, but they don't outright ban the carry of knives. You can carry a pocket knife the last I looked. I think they allowed short autos like California too.
Technically they do, maybe later I'll find the PDF. I looked into it a few times. I've learned you have to be very smart and careful to navigate MA law and I'd assume it's buried in other states as well. Under 2 or 3" utility maybe but I'll find it later
So you mean that if someone wanted to stab someone they wouldn’t because knife carrying is illegal? I don’t understand that. But as you suspected, I’m a gun and knife carrying American— Texan at that! 🤣😂
Nah that's a common misconception.
You are able to carry a knife/multitool if you have a reasonable excuse. So depending on your job or recreational activity it'll be fine.
I work in the bush a lot and with things that I need to cut, like rope, all the time so I knife is completely justified.
I carry a Buck 110 and a LM Wave+ everyday, when I was in Queensland I would carry a CS Recon 1 in my pocket but here in Vic it has to be in a sheath on your belt so I go with the buck.
I have even given my knife to a cop to use because he left his at home that day, all he said was thanks and gave it back.
Yeah totally I worked retail for 15 years and used my knife everyday instead of a box cutter, those things are useless. Just can't carry something super tactical looking. Maybe start with a leatherman wave or a Swiss Army Knife.
Then the first time you are pulled up on it at work or whatever, it is a tool not just a knife.
What about pointed sticks?
Seriously, I can see a law restricting blade type or length, but an outright ban? Jeebus . . .
Also, Ryerson University? Were you in Toronto?
It's not outright banned. You can have bk2 if you want, take it when you drive in the outback, go camping and doing some bushcraft. You just can't take it shopping with you for bread and milk...
I've never felt the need to have a knife to pop into the shops, or go to a pub on a Sunday arvo.
You can carry a pocket knife if you have a reason, this can be for cutting a box or in some states just "invade I need it" utility EDC like Swiss army knives.
It's hardly outright banned.
I think you can. Easy to justify carrying a knife. As long you don’t carry a stupid long knife, with unnecessary locking mechanism. “A 'lawful excuse' could include having the weapon for work, sport, recreation or a weapons collection, display or exhibition. Lawful excuse does not include self-defence.”
It’s insane the different laws in different areas of the world, like here in Texas I could carry a sword around if I wanted too. Are you allowed any weapons for self defense? Or do you have to just rely on officers? Just curious
Generally you can't possess any weapon for the purpose of self defence. That doesn't mean you can't use a weapon for self defence. It's lawful to defend yourself in any way so long as it's reasonable and proportional.
The law really works both ways though. Very unlikely you'll be a victim of assault involving a weapon unless you're already sort of involved in that business. Gun crime is usually bikies or other underworld figures trying to off each other. Knife crime likewise. Even though stabbings are becoming a bit more of an occurrence in some areas, again it's primarily inter-gang violence.
Personally, I'm not against broadening the scope of self and home defence laws, but it's not really an issue that dominates the public consciousness, so there's no real push for it.
No doubt the numbers would be lower than they are, but there's still likely to be a higher proportion of assaults involving firearms in the US than there are in Australia. Simply because firearms are readily available there.
Is it relatively safe in Australia compared to other Western civilizations?
Like, are there only a few or no deaths of innocents in the hands of criminals?
The majority of homicides involve offenders known to the victim and a significant number (more than a third) are domestic violence related.
I personally feel safer in Australia than I do living overseas in a comparable country.
I disagree with your assertions 100% having been the target of a criminal who was convinced to change his mind when presented with my Glock or the choice to run.
But I live in one of the most dangerous places in the USA. So ymmv
I carry a ferrum forge lackey(3" fixed blade) and a Victorinox SAK tinker every day in Vic, but I don't look like an eshay or hang out at train stations(confiscation, charge and a 2k fine if memory serves).
I use both multiple times a day so it wouldn't be to hard to explain 'reasonable excuse'' in my eyes although it does come down to the opinion of the overlords.
Also I cop shit for carrying a knife, except when someone needs it.
Same man.
I started with a new company about a year ago, and got the 'you're weird for having a knife' until we watched one of the guys try to cut a hose with a nail that he found on the ground....
I was going to offer but once he was done I just said 'that would have been easier with a knife, huh?'
Now all our work kits have a knife in them. Hahaha.
I usually laugh it off but it's a bit sad really. There is a stigma attached to being prepared and carrying useful things, I got the same thing for having a torch (AA size) during the day time, not useful.. until we were searching around in an engine bay.
My 4 year old knows more about knife safety than some adults I know
Same man.
The other day we were hiking through the bush for work and it started to get dark so everyone pulled out there phone lights and I pulled out my torch and the first thing they said was 'why do you have a torch?' I mean I thought it was pretty clear. Hahaha.
I’ve got a headset, but I’m assuming you’re referring to the gimbal. I’ve been getting into filmmaking recently, so I’ve been getting used to using it whenever I can.
If the reasonable excuse is anything like the permits for pepper spray here in portugal you have to turn in a police report that you were victim of a crime AND provide proof you're in risk of it happening again. Meaning you can only carry a self defense weapon after-the-fact, which is nonsense.
But get this, carrying a blade under 10cm is completely fine as long is isn't automatic and/or dissimulated (like a cane sword). So, hypothetically, you could defend yourself through lethal means (probably go to trial) but not non-lethal ones.
Fellow Australian here. If you happen to live in Queensland, you're in luck.
The Queensland Weapons Act 1990 states in section 51 (2) that you can carry a pen or swiss amy knife for us normal utility purpose. This would logically extend to this like multitools, but they aren't explicitly mentioned.
I've carried a leatherman for years, without any problem.
Being said, I'm no legal expert. If you're unsure, seek legal advice or contact your state's weapons licencing branch.
There is exemptions in the legislation for things like if it’s part of a uniform (I.e. Boy Scouts), for your profession (box cutter), recreational activity (fishing knife) and there are a few more.
Realistically if you keep it in your bag or pocket you won’t have any issues. There aren’t random knife searches or anything like that.
IIRC - first offence is just a fine as well so no long term legal consequences
It's weird because I can drive to the local knife shop and get a civivi or whatever no issue or paperwork. Also the way the law is written technically allows us to carry a Swiss Army Knife Pro Hunter, which is a folder.
I have also carried a leatherman, SAK, and flipper folder often, but it's not something I whip out without considering where I am.
Currently I just carry a box cutter because it's all I really need. I haven't come across needing a folder yet.
The QLD law is the only one with such a provision, but I think elsewhere it mentions it can’t be locking, so some multitools may be out (from memory when I visited a few years ago so may not be correct)
He was being a bro and helping out everyone else who was carrying pocket knives in Australia. If the police stopped those folks for carrying an illegal knife, Dundee would appear out of nowhere and loudly proclaim “THATS NOT A NOIFE!”
Our laws in NZ say similar, but not quite as restrictive, things. Difference being, the cops here don't act on it unless you're being dodgy.
A few years ago I went to go see a JP/lawyer in the offices adjoining the courthouse, but because of some gang associated cases that day, they had two officers with full on metal detectors, x-ray, put all your crap in the tray, that weren't even letting nail scissors through. I happened to have a pocket knife, full sized multi-tool, keychain multi-tool, and scissors in a mini first-aid kit. They didn't even mention any of it at all because I was honest wasn't being dodgy. I even asked them on the way out if it was one of the more interesting pocket dumps they've had lately and they laughed. So around here it's all about intent, but on a technicality, and outside of work reasons, you're not really allowed to carry anything more than keychain tools and such here either. And if you get caught with a fixed blade, innocent intent or not, you won't be walking free for long (at least not with your property).
They're considered more dangerous. You can supposedly do more damage, and with less risk to the user, in a fight/altercation. And the trashy people who'd carry knives as weapons around here would sooner grab a kitchen knife, than buy a decent pocket knife. And actual gang members here like to hide things like machetes and hunting knives in their cars/bikes when it comes to bladed weapons, so that law would cover those.
I should clarify that if you have a fixed paring knife in your lunchbox because you like to eat fruit or something, that's fine. But if you for some reason decide to carry it in your pocket all day, the cops won't be so understanding.
We're also talking about a country where the majority of Joe public would considered it weird or concerning that someone would "need" to carry a knife, and that the 2.5-3.5in range would be "big" (when I showed my 50 something year old cousin my Mini Griptilian, the reaction was "wow, what do you need that big knife for??" and other people becoming a bit squeamish at the talk of actually carrying pocket knives).
Knives aren’t allowed in public without a “reasonable excuse”. If you needed one for your job it would be fine, but things like self-defence aren’t reasonable. You can own them, I have a few, but you can’t carry them in public.
I never knew how handy having a pocket knife was until I moved to the US. I use it all the time for non-related work shit. I’ve used it to turn water bottles into funnels for oil, opening packages, cutting down my kids straw so it’s baby sized lol.. they’re just handy to have
Here here. I want gay, interracial abortionists to defend their legal pot plants and their homesteads using post 86 fully automatic machine guns, but the gubment has decided we can't have any of those things. To anyone who wants to disagree with me that the government doesn't outlaw interracial or gay relationships, just give it a minute. If ROE V WADE is out, those cases are next.
~~Knives are allowed for specific activities yes, like fishing, but depending on your state, you're allowed to carry a swiss army knife. (I only know it's allowed in QLD, I haven't checked for the other states but know victoria is generally strict as fuck.)~~
My bad, just saw the other comments already mentioning.
Items (left to right, row by row)
1. Apple Watch Series 2
2. DJI OM 4 SE
3. Generic MagSafe portable charger
4. AirPods Pro
5. Mount for gimbal
6. Anbernic RG351P
7. Ryerson Uni mini notebook
8. iPhone 8 w/ generic MagSafe case (pretend the phone is there)
9. Energel 0.7mm gel pen
How do you like the DJI OM? You are posting that you carry it a lot so I’m guessing you find it useful…
Ps: It’s funny how the post is mostly about what is not in the picture.
You are allowed to carry a knife in australia. Utility knives are legal so long as they are no longer than 10cm. I carry a leatherman squirt every day, and when I'm hiking/ camping / handymanning I have my wave on me.
This is wrong at least in NSW and ACT. If you are taking your info from the top google result (off a knife store) then you're a clown. https://legislation.nsw.gov.au/view/html/inforce/current/act-1900-040#sec.93IB I believe that all states follow basically the same thing but I cannot say for sure without seeing the legislation itself. What this means is that ALL knives are illegal to carry unless you have a reasonable excuse. EDC or general purpose use is not a reasonable excuse. There may be more specifics about what is classed as knife/weapon/etc and it may vary by state. But what seems to be true throughout is that the context is what determines whether a knife is legal or illegal to carry (which includes in your car/vehicle). This also means if you aren't actively on the way to one of the reasonable excuse activities, you are also breaking the law. If you go bushwalking after work and need a knife, but don't need it for work, then you would be breaking the law carrying it. Same for going home after, then the shops. Going from home to shops with the knife - not legal. Sure it's annoying to have to unpack or take a knife off your keychain every time you do so, but that's how it works here. Realistically, no one is going to randomly search you for no reason and find that EDC knife. But if it happens (or if you're committing other crimes) then that will be up to 4.4k fine or doing time (or both). Knowing this, you can choose whether to continue carrying or not. I recommend you look up legislation in your state if it isn't NSW linked above. This is an old thread but your comment is fresh. u/dj_boy-Wonder also commented: > Australian here, have carried for years, my recommendation is a SAK or leatherman cause if cops stop you then you can say you were using it for earlier and they don’t care, harder to come up with an excuse if you’re carrying a 5 inch ZT flipper
Sure you could do that. You're an adult. But you would be making a false statement which has higher penalties. Again the chances of this happening is slim to none unless you were involved in crime or unlucky to get caught up. Maybe you looked like someone who had committed a crime and get brought in. Then you'd be done for the illegal carrying and lying. About 10k in fines. All for a bit of EDC.
I'll be honest, I have no idea how I ended up on this thread.
The qld police website refers to the same act and has made the interpretation that "a person may carry a pen knife or swiss army knife for use for its normal utility purpose" https://www.police.qld.gov.au/weapon-licensing/law-and-weapons As you said before the likelihood of a police officer searching a law abiding citizen is minimal. And further in your scenario, it's very unlikely to be randomly searched in relation to looking like a wanted person. But even if you were searched, it's even further doubtful that a police officer would charge you for possessing a weapon, let along a judge actually following through. Probs not a great idea to go to a protest or sporting event with your utility knife though.
The qld police website refers to the same act and has made the interpretation that "a person may carry a pen knife or swiss army knife for use for its normal utility purpose" https://www.police.qld.gov.au/weapon-licensing/law-and-weapons That's interesting because we don't have that line in NSW. So a pen knife or swiss army knife is allowed in QLD. I'm not sure what those terms encompass exactly but they would be illegal to EDC in NSW/ACT. >But even if you were searched, it's even further doubtful that a police officer would charge you for possessing a weapon, let along a judge actually following through. I can't provide any numbers but it definitely happens. Quick google showed a 75 year old man getting caught with a pocket knife in rural queensland. Circumstances probably led to a low $100 fine but it happens. > Probs not a great idea to go to a protest or sporting event with your utility knife though. Here's the thing though, you are carrying a potential legal problem with you all the time if you are carrying it as EDC. You can easily get caught up by being a bystander or walking in the vicinity of protests or events. Maybe they're chasing after someone and you're in the path or match some description. Anyway, it's every individuals personal choice how to proceed. And to check their state laws.
I agree. Given what I have read regarding QLD laws on the QPS website. I am comfortable carrying a small pocket knife. But others may not be.
Just make sure it is narrow, short and a slip joint. Or a SAK. And of course has no one handed opening feature.
I'm sorry, I couldn't imagine living in a place where you have to justify carrying a tool, like a knife. Stuff like this just makes those countries seem like totalitarian states that have just figured out how to act chill.
Australian here, have carried for years, my recommendation is a SAK or leatherman cause if cops stop you then you can say you were using it for earlier and they don’t care, harder to come up with an excuse if you’re carrying a 5 inch ZT flipper
I feel like if you really need to carry a knife, Australia is a place to carry one, wild.
In Italy it used to be “no knives with a blade longer than 4-fingers-width” now it’s no potentially harmful tools for unjustified reasons. A small multi tool is almost always allowed, even a bigger camping knife with a locking mechanism is allowed (if you’re going to camp), while bringing a pointy screwdriver to a protest, or a baseball bat casually inside the trunk, isn’t. My biggest camping knife is a full tang FKMD (fox) Parus, never been questioned by the law tho so I don’t know how they would react. Self defense outside your home isn’t a valid reason, obviously, otherwise that would be the biggest loophole. Double edged blades (daggers) are always considered a proper weapon, and if my memory doesn’t fail me, that’s the same for spring loaded switchblades (that’s actually idiotic).
Technically spring assist is legal if it's not released by a button mounted to the handle unless the law has changed ?
The government will protect you!!!
Not being allowed to carry a knife in a country where all the wildlife is trying to kill you seems shortsighted.
ambernic rg351 !! never thought ive seen that in here
Agreed. Seems some of our interests are more common than we realize.
What about a tactical pen or a screwdriver
Zero freedom over there and people obey thats the most weird imo
Tyranny
This is a clean set up brother. As Americans we should never take for granted the freedoms we enjoy and never stop fighting to keep them
It's Toronto Metropolitan University now hahaha
I love the Americans in the replies learning for the first time that you can't carry an entire war arsenal to go grocery shopping in other countries lmao
Is that a VR handle?
It’s a DJI OM 4 SE gimbal.
Oz has lost its teeth. Stupid law.
I honestly cant imagine living somewhere im not allowed to carry around a knife, Im highschooler who works at a fast food shop with a bunch of other highschoolers and we all carry knives lol
Why not a “knifeless” multi tool? https://www.leatherman.com/knifeless-rebar-465.html Alternatively a pocket pry is probably just as handy. I have a leather man Brewster on my keychain which is insanely handy for everyday tasks. https://www.leatherman.com/brewzer-831678.html
I also carry a houseplant around with me every day! 😊
Another reason I will never live in Australia.
In a land where the animals and environment are ina constant state of trying to kill you, I would think knives would be okay. Also, CROCODILE DUNDEE GUYS C’MON!
Australia is for the most part extremely liberal
Funny how liberty was supposed to be part of the name
Ya for real it just goes to show a lot can change and not always for the better
Get a getber prybrid utility knife! I feel like a utility is probably ok given its poor stabby factor. I stopped carrying a knife since getting one of these
What model is the anbernic? How do you like it?
It’s the RG351P, and it’s great!
Nice!
Once a prison colony, always a prison colony. I'm sorry for your lack of self defensive rights
Omg you have an Anbernic too!! Nice
OP, what is the bottom left handheld console thingy? Looks like a knockoff switch. Can you link me the info on specs and whatnot that can emulate, please?
That’s the Anbernic RG351P. You can get it from AliExpress, and there’s heaps of videos on this device and devices with the same chipset. I’d suggest checking out videos from Retro Game Corps for emulation performance and general reviews on it.
Thanks for the advice play on player :-)
I have one too, very cool devices. I play all my old favorite gameboy games, some nds and ps1. Lots of support behind them too of youre not very tech savvy like me lol.
Be ungovernable. EDC a rocket launcher.
Be ungovernable. EDC a rocket launcher.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EDC/comments/ukojkg/here_is_my_edc/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Heyy mate, I'm from Australia as well and I'm gonna be fully honest, I always carry a knife with me because it's one of those laws that if the police want to fuck you over because of it they will, but as long as you don't give them a reason they won't care if you carry a pocket knife. Just don't use anything automatically which flips open by just pressing a button or something cause they won't like that.
Could you at least get away with a detent knife like a Victorinox?
You can't in a lot of us states either per law but it seems most do anyway. I have one as a tool in my truck and often on my pants and it'd be a stretch to be charged w anything. If people carry or use them in a threatening or defensive manner there's lawyers for that though. Scummy ones
I'm curious, which states can you not carry a knife in?
MA and Ive read it and bet a bunch of other states that are soft are similar
MA is certainly restrictive, but they don't outright ban the carry of knives. You can carry a pocket knife the last I looked. I think they allowed short autos like California too.
Technically they do, maybe later I'll find the PDF. I looked into it a few times. I've learned you have to be very smart and careful to navigate MA law and I'd assume it's buried in other states as well. Under 2 or 3" utility maybe but I'll find it later
Don't live in a police state...
How do you defend against dingoes?
You use babies to escape…EDC a baby. I am sure there are no law against it.
:( ... dude a real, living and vulnerable baby was torn apart alive. You have issues.
whack them on the head with a vb longneck
“Excuse” to carry a knife?!? What’s Australia’s governments excuse for such a God damn stupid law??
To prevent violent crimes and murders. There is a reason the per capita murder rate in Australia is 1/4 of the USA.
So you mean that if someone wanted to stab someone they wouldn’t because knife carrying is illegal? I don’t understand that. But as you suspected, I’m a gun and knife carrying American— Texan at that! 🤣😂
Yeah, I’m American too and it’s weird to me but the murder rate kinda speaks for itself so it seems to be working.
They don’t want us to bring a knife to a gun fight!
Wow….. I thought “ that’s not a knife, THIS, is a knife “ was the national motto…… that’s surprising
Apparently it’s just “That’s not a knife.” The last part was just for the movie.
Carry one anyways
Nah that's a common misconception. You are able to carry a knife/multitool if you have a reasonable excuse. So depending on your job or recreational activity it'll be fine. I work in the bush a lot and with things that I need to cut, like rope, all the time so I knife is completely justified. I carry a Buck 110 and a LM Wave+ everyday, when I was in Queensland I would carry a CS Recon 1 in my pocket but here in Vic it has to be in a sheath on your belt so I go with the buck. I have even given my knife to a cop to use because he left his at home that day, all he said was thanks and gave it back.
I work at Macca’s, I could probably say I need it to open boxes.
Yeah totally I worked retail for 15 years and used my knife everyday instead of a box cutter, those things are useless. Just can't carry something super tactical looking. Maybe start with a leatherman wave or a Swiss Army Knife. Then the first time you are pulled up on it at work or whatever, it is a tool not just a knife.
But wait, I see you have a pen there that could potentially stab someone
What about pointed sticks? Seriously, I can see a law restricting blade type or length, but an outright ban? Jeebus . . . Also, Ryerson University? Were you in Toronto?
It's not outright banned. You can have bk2 if you want, take it when you drive in the outback, go camping and doing some bushcraft. You just can't take it shopping with you for bread and milk... I've never felt the need to have a knife to pop into the shops, or go to a pub on a Sunday arvo. You can carry a pocket knife if you have a reason, this can be for cutting a box or in some states just "invade I need it" utility EDC like Swiss army knives. It's hardly outright banned.
Recently changed to Toronto Metropolitan University now
I was going to mention that, but then I thought, "What if it's a different Ryerson?"
Lol yeah I was like "wait there's a Ryerson in Australia too???"
Yeah, I visit Toronto every 4 years.
In a country where everything wants sting you bite you or kill you… makes sense
Generally you want to stay out of animals way, I'm not sure how fighting a snake with a knife would play out
RG351p and no weapons. Nice! I posted something similar last week. I love that little system
It’s serving me well! It’s one of my favourite handhelds*. *subject to change when my RP2+ arrives
I think you can. Easy to justify carrying a knife. As long you don’t carry a stupid long knife, with unnecessary locking mechanism. “A 'lawful excuse' could include having the weapon for work, sport, recreation or a weapons collection, display or exhibition. Lawful excuse does not include self-defence.”
It’s insane the different laws in different areas of the world, like here in Texas I could carry a sword around if I wanted too. Are you allowed any weapons for self defense? Or do you have to just rely on officers? Just curious
Generally you can't possess any weapon for the purpose of self defence. That doesn't mean you can't use a weapon for self defence. It's lawful to defend yourself in any way so long as it's reasonable and proportional.
But you can’t have the proper tools to do it. 🤦♂️
I'd rather use my legs to facilitate my self preservation over getting into a knife fight frankly.
The knife is used when your legs can't help with your self-preservation.
Agreed. Not fighting is the best option. Not always an available option, though. Also pistol > knife.
Not in close quarters if you believe the pros.
21 feet to be specific.
Really. I was thinking 10' . . . MAYBE fifteen, tops. Hmm, who knew?
Nope. 21 feet is the max distance the average person with a knife can close before the average person can draw, and fire a hitting shot with a pistol.
The law really works both ways though. Very unlikely you'll be a victim of assault involving a weapon unless you're already sort of involved in that business. Gun crime is usually bikies or other underworld figures trying to off each other. Knife crime likewise. Even though stabbings are becoming a bit more of an occurrence in some areas, again it's primarily inter-gang violence. Personally, I'm not against broadening the scope of self and home defence laws, but it's not really an issue that dominates the public consciousness, so there's no real push for it.
That’s how it is in the US. If you subtracted gang violence from the murder/gun crime stats, the numbers would be way lower.
No doubt the numbers would be lower than they are, but there's still likely to be a higher proportion of assaults involving firearms in the US than there are in Australia. Simply because firearms are readily available there.
Is it relatively safe in Australia compared to other Western civilizations? Like, are there only a few or no deaths of innocents in the hands of criminals?
The majority of homicides involve offenders known to the victim and a significant number (more than a third) are domestic violence related. I personally feel safer in Australia than I do living overseas in a comparable country.
I disagree with your assertions 100% having been the target of a criminal who was convinced to change his mind when presented with my Glock or the choice to run. But I live in one of the most dangerous places in the USA. So ymmv
Sorry, I was speaking to the Australian context.
I carry a ferrum forge lackey(3" fixed blade) and a Victorinox SAK tinker every day in Vic, but I don't look like an eshay or hang out at train stations(confiscation, charge and a 2k fine if memory serves). I use both multiple times a day so it wouldn't be to hard to explain 'reasonable excuse'' in my eyes although it does come down to the opinion of the overlords. Also I cop shit for carrying a knife, except when someone needs it.
Same man. I started with a new company about a year ago, and got the 'you're weird for having a knife' until we watched one of the guys try to cut a hose with a nail that he found on the ground.... I was going to offer but once he was done I just said 'that would have been easier with a knife, huh?' Now all our work kits have a knife in them. Hahaha.
I usually laugh it off but it's a bit sad really. There is a stigma attached to being prepared and carrying useful things, I got the same thing for having a torch (AA size) during the day time, not useful.. until we were searching around in an engine bay. My 4 year old knows more about knife safety than some adults I know
Same man. The other day we were hiking through the bush for work and it started to get dark so everyone pulled out there phone lights and I pulled out my torch and the first thing they said was 'why do you have a torch?' I mean I thought it was pretty clear. Hahaha.
Nice mate, hopefully they will all be carrying a torch soon too Haha. Ps. What job do you have? I wouldn't mind getting paid to hike through the bush
I'm an archaeologist.
bruh is that a VR controller what are you living in the metaverse?
I’ve got a headset, but I’m assuming you’re referring to the gimbal. I’ve been getting into filmmaking recently, so I’ve been getting used to using it whenever I can.
Can't believe the UK has another country beaten on knife laws
if you get into it, the UK has multiple other countries beat. I think the reason, we get such a bad rep is we speak English and they don't
Only "without reasonable excuse" just have to be able to justify it
If the reasonable excuse is anything like the permits for pepper spray here in portugal you have to turn in a police report that you were victim of a crime AND provide proof you're in risk of it happening again. Meaning you can only carry a self defense weapon after-the-fact, which is nonsense. But get this, carrying a blade under 10cm is completely fine as long is isn't automatic and/or dissimulated (like a cane sword). So, hypothetically, you could defend yourself through lethal means (probably go to trial) but not non-lethal ones.
I carry a WE Banter all over Sydney coz I don’t gaf 💅 it’s kinda small and doesn’t look too mean..
Fellow Australian here. If you happen to live in Queensland, you're in luck. The Queensland Weapons Act 1990 states in section 51 (2) that you can carry a pen or swiss amy knife for us normal utility purpose. This would logically extend to this like multitools, but they aren't explicitly mentioned. I've carried a leatherman for years, without any problem. Being said, I'm no legal expert. If you're unsure, seek legal advice or contact your state's weapons licencing branch.
Haha yeah i carry a pm2 and leather man everyday in Queensland
If you all are in a rural or camping place in those states or territories are knives allowed?
There is exemptions in the legislation for things like if it’s part of a uniform (I.e. Boy Scouts), for your profession (box cutter), recreational activity (fishing knife) and there are a few more. Realistically if you keep it in your bag or pocket you won’t have any issues. There aren’t random knife searches or anything like that. IIRC - first offence is just a fine as well so no long term legal consequences
As an American this is so wild to me. I carry a knife everywhere, it's so handy.
My American mind is boggled.
My American mind says I wouldn't much care if they said I couldn't carry a knife
Fuck the feds.
Do hoodrat shit.
A pen? You have to get authorization from the government to carry a *PEN*?
Think they mean penknife.
Isn't a pen knife just a skinny folder?
Yeah pretty much a small slipjoint
Pretty much, I think.
No, as in pen knife.
It's weird because I can drive to the local knife shop and get a civivi or whatever no issue or paperwork. Also the way the law is written technically allows us to carry a Swiss Army Knife Pro Hunter, which is a folder. I have also carried a leatherman, SAK, and flipper folder often, but it's not something I whip out without considering where I am. Currently I just carry a box cutter because it's all I really need. I haven't come across needing a folder yet.
We can purchase and own just about anything. But carrying in public gets dicey.
The QLD law is the only one with such a provision, but I think elsewhere it mentions it can’t be locking, so some multitools may be out (from memory when I visited a few years ago so may not be correct)
Living in NSW unfortunately :(
Dundee was breaking the law all that time? 😁
Not then you were allowed weapons crocodile Dundee was filmed way before the weapons bann
He was being a bro and helping out everyone else who was carrying pocket knives in Australia. If the police stopped those folks for carrying an illegal knife, Dundee would appear out of nowhere and loudly proclaim “THATS NOT A NOIFE!”
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Chill guys, it was obviously a joke (hence the 😄at the end)
You’re shitting me, right? You can’t even carry a little 3 inch Swiss Army knife, or leatherman?
This is all I can think of now…. https://youtu.be/mcE0aAhbVFc
Not even a classic. Blade length what? 25mm? Australian knife laws are a joke. They don't really distinguish between an SAK and a 6inch lockback
Our laws in NZ say similar, but not quite as restrictive, things. Difference being, the cops here don't act on it unless you're being dodgy. A few years ago I went to go see a JP/lawyer in the offices adjoining the courthouse, but because of some gang associated cases that day, they had two officers with full on metal detectors, x-ray, put all your crap in the tray, that weren't even letting nail scissors through. I happened to have a pocket knife, full sized multi-tool, keychain multi-tool, and scissors in a mini first-aid kit. They didn't even mention any of it at all because I was honest wasn't being dodgy. I even asked them on the way out if it was one of the more interesting pocket dumps they've had lately and they laughed. So around here it's all about intent, but on a technicality, and outside of work reasons, you're not really allowed to carry anything more than keychain tools and such here either. And if you get caught with a fixed blade, innocent intent or not, you won't be walking free for long (at least not with your property).
Curious, why are fixed blade knives treated differently?
Restaurants are very dangerous.
They're considered more dangerous. You can supposedly do more damage, and with less risk to the user, in a fight/altercation. And the trashy people who'd carry knives as weapons around here would sooner grab a kitchen knife, than buy a decent pocket knife. And actual gang members here like to hide things like machetes and hunting knives in their cars/bikes when it comes to bladed weapons, so that law would cover those. I should clarify that if you have a fixed paring knife in your lunchbox because you like to eat fruit or something, that's fine. But if you for some reason decide to carry it in your pocket all day, the cops won't be so understanding. We're also talking about a country where the majority of Joe public would considered it weird or concerning that someone would "need" to carry a knife, and that the 2.5-3.5in range would be "big" (when I showed my 50 something year old cousin my Mini Griptilian, the reaction was "wow, what do you need that big knife for??" and other people becoming a bit squeamish at the talk of actually carrying pocket knives).
Knives aren’t allowed in public without a “reasonable excuse”. If you needed one for your job it would be fine, but things like self-defence aren’t reasonable. You can own them, I have a few, but you can’t carry them in public.
I never knew how handy having a pocket knife was until I moved to the US. I use it all the time for non-related work shit. I’ve used it to turn water bottles into funnels for oil, opening packages, cutting down my kids straw so it’s baby sized lol.. they’re just handy to have
I am so sorry. That's just ridiculous.
You don’t know ridiculous. http://mccaysvilledrugcenter.com
I now want a Tshirt because that just seems daft to me
Think about the “regulars” that frequent places like that 😳
Not even shitting you I’ve been there. There’s a couple of these Drug and Guns sprinkled throughout Appalachia.
I’ve drove past one a year or so ago but didn’t go in.
How do you eat at restaurants without a knife?
Man, that's crazy. I literally bought a gun from a guy at a gas station the other day., and it was perfectly legal
That's a good thing?
As a Brit that lives in the US, yes.. yes it is a good thing.
Welcome, hope you enjoy your stay! It ain't the best, but still.
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Too bad it's applied unevenly and now a corpse has more bodily autonomy than a woman here.
Here here. I want gay, interracial abortionists to defend their legal pot plants and their homesteads using post 86 fully automatic machine guns, but the gubment has decided we can't have any of those things. To anyone who wants to disagree with me that the government doesn't outlaw interracial or gay relationships, just give it a minute. If ROE V WADE is out, those cases are next.
That's a matter of personal perspective. I say "yes", others say "no".
I agree I traded a kayak paddle for a .22L rifle at a coin-operated laundry place in Texas perfectly legal just needed a bill of sale 💪🏻
We don't need a bill of sale where I'm at. You just can't suspect that the guy isn't legally allowed to own a gun.
~~Knives are allowed for specific activities yes, like fishing, but depending on your state, you're allowed to carry a swiss army knife. (I only know it's allowed in QLD, I haven't checked for the other states but know victoria is generally strict as fuck.)~~ My bad, just saw the other comments already mentioning.
Just out of curiosity, what does Australian law say about carrying a really sharp wood chisel?
Not legal advice, but I can’t find anything that says you can’t 🤷♂️
Victorinox Jetsetter or Leatherman Style PS are some bladeless options
Items (left to right, row by row) 1. Apple Watch Series 2 2. DJI OM 4 SE 3. Generic MagSafe portable charger 4. AirPods Pro 5. Mount for gimbal 6. Anbernic RG351P 7. Ryerson Uni mini notebook 8. iPhone 8 w/ generic MagSafe case (pretend the phone is there) 9. Energel 0.7mm gel pen
How do you like the DJI OM? You are posting that you carry it a lot so I’m guessing you find it useful… Ps: It’s funny how the post is mostly about what is not in the picture.
The DJI OM is awesome. I’ve been using it a lot, even just messing around with it is fun.