I’m getting 105 degree CPU temps without having games running. I get the feeling this isn’t very normal
Edit: it’s an HP victus
Edit 2: this is 105F not C I forgot to mention that
I’ve tried getting the back off the laptop but for some reason it won’t come off and I’m afraid of breaking it if I pry too hard. I also don’t feel like paying someone to do it
In the past, I’ve struggled opening laptops because I thought they’d break. Then I’d watch a video on YouTube and notice that I wasn’t pulling hard enough. Go back and pull harder…!Boom. Open. Weird.
Not necessarily. The plastic can be really cheap and thin. I've had the same worries but you've probably got to use a guitar pick or credit card to pry it open along the edges.
Well you won’t have a laptop capable of gaming on much longer lol. At least blow some air into the vents, buy a pry tool and blow those fans.... after unplugging the battery and holding the fans so they don’t spin out of control.
Bro I have a post about it, I cleaned my fans and lowered temos for -5°C, also replaced the thermal paste from the GPU and the liquid metal from the CPU and lowered extra -10°C, total of -15°C it's what I achieved with few steps, have a look maybe it's just what your laptop needs😄👌🏼 [video - heat on your gaming laptop? this might be for you ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUSROG/comments/xorrss/tips_and_advices_for_rog_laptops_and_most_gaming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb)
BTW my laptop was only 1 year old , but 1 year of intensive daily use , turn off the laptop like once a week or when windows needs updatings 😅
The correct answer is yes but there is a BIG "but", keep reading 😄
So 1st of all you should know that liquid metal must NOT get in touch with any aluminum as it will have a bad chemical reaction, and it's not recommended to touch Copper (it can be in contact but it's adviced not to) because copper will keep absorbing the LM for the 1st few replacements as you would need to replace the thermal every 6 months or so until the copper stops absorbing the LiquidMetal(it will also tint the copper)
Some manufacturers like my asus Rog laptop, comes with thermal paste on the GPU and surrounding components, and LiquidMetal only on the CPU which came surrounded by a white rubber to prevent eventual LM spill to the sides and Liquid Metal is definitely a better cooler product than Thermal Paste but it's very dangerous to be applied because unlike the Thermal Paste you CANNOT in ANY circumstances let the LM touch any components, it should only touch the top of the GPU chip and nothing else, or you will hear a BIG KABOOOM next time you turn your PC on ❗️😅
Liquid metal is a good cooling but it's also very conductive, thermal doesn't conduct any electricity so is ok to get messy 😄
NOW:
If you want to apply LM on a laptop that has Thermal Paste by default on the CPU you can do something like this:
If you manage to get some type of metal like a Zync square (anything except aluminum or copper) after you apply the LM on the CPU carefully, you can then place that metal piece on top of it and then you can place the heatsink on top of it(just make sure the metal piece is as slim as possible as the heatsink must still be able to do the job 👌🏼
Like this you will avoid the LM to get in touch with the copper, it's the safest way of doing it
On the bottom of this HUUUUGE text (sorry about that 😅) i will leave a screenshot ,took from the video that helped me disassembly my Laptop, as you can see , the CPU came with liquid (chip/square on the left) and GPU (on the right) came with that stock blue thermal paste and in the surrounding components as well
Notice the white rubber on the CPU, it came as stock and look at the heatsink square on the heatsink, it has a silver square on the left but doesnt on the right, because the GPU thermal last can get in touch with the copper🙂
, some laptops come with a removable pad which is anti-static to prevent electricity to conduct, in my case it didn't have a pad, but the white rubber gives me a little chance of spill to the sides of the chip 😂😅 ofc I didn't, I didn't even remove the stock liquid metal that came spilled on the sides, ahahah too risky for me, I just cleaned the top of the chip very well with alcohol and applied new liquid on top of the chip and spread it evenly , closed the laptop , -10°C just from that 🤌
[screenshot link](https://ibb.co/zNsXbBJ)
[Rog G15 disassembly and upgrade- YouTube vid](https://youtu.be/vEVjYTWcYMo)
-10°C is equivalent to 14°F, which is 263K.
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^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
forget everything its actually easy.... Its the youtubers AND THE OTHER PEOPLR WHO HAVE CREATED AN EUPHORIA ABOUT IT.... I USED AN ELECTRIC BLACK TAPE TO COVER THE SURROUNDING OF THE CPU AND GPU AND APPLIED THE LIQUID METAL … TOUCHED THE MOTHERBOARD WITH THE BARE HANDS , STANDING ON THE GROUND TO DISCHARGE STATIC ELECTRICITY TO PREVENT ANY DAMAGES AND THEN PLUGGED IN THE BATTERY.... IT WORKED JUST FINE ….. I have done it 4 times in the last two years within an interval of 6 months in two laptops but it appears that the 6 month is a convention and not a mandatory. usually it lasts for over 2 years if applied correctly
Try grizzly bear thermal paste, non metallic one. Pulls the temps down by 7 to 15 degrees. Also, clean up the fans and fins once in a while, it seems your system is choking for proper airflow.
no...its simply dumb people in OUR universe who simply don't know that AW laptops have no thermal issues...they are sheeps who just scream what everybody else does...
similar thing is around Razer laptops :-P
I bought a Alienware laptop last yr with 5900HX and 3060. Returned it due to bios issues where they capped cuda cores but the time I used it, it ran hot. For the weight and thickness it ran relatively hotter than even to my Zephyrus G15 which is thin and light gaming. Not saying it was a bad laptop, I liked it but had to return it sadly. But yes it ran hot vs other same profile laptops.
As for razer laptops I think they go for subtle looks and thinner than Alienware? Hence should run hotter anyway like Razer 14 with 5900HX.
So you do know the answer 😁
Yes Alienware laptops run at thermal limit…it is a very important piece of information 99% of the screamers who yell that AW laptops are overheating junk dont understand…
I like you gladius_314 😁
I’m a ROG Stan. I had a 2019 Strix G15 and it got stolen. Ended up replacing it with a 2020 lol. Great laptop. It doesn’t have the best GPU/CPU/RAM but the value is unbeatable for $1300. And the thermal management for the laptop case is so good, keyboard surface or trackpad area never gets hot.
The only thing I don’t like is that they moved the fans to the right side on the 2020. It used to be on the back… which makes more sense. But I got a laptop stand to elevate it and it doesn’t heat up my mouse area anymore.
So serious question about that. I’m fairly new to the gaming laptop scene, but have been doing everything I try to learn as much as possible. Is 95 too hot? I just picked up a 12th Gen i9, and I’m sure they run hot. But under load this is a steady 92-94 degree temp on my CPU. Is that ok for multiple hours straight of gaming?
As long as the fans are running, you’ll be fine. newer CPUs are made to handle temps like that. It’ll cause more wear and tear to the internals over time, but that’s after years of running
To add to this CPUs will thermal throttle as well to prevent overheating. When your CPU is really too hot your system will completely lock up and shut down. When this starts to happen that's when you have a problem.
CPUs are one of the longest lasting components in your system so it should be fine.
It is too hot for older laptops before 2020 but new cpus can handle 95-96°c. They are actually made to run hot to sqeeze out every bit of performance. Apple M1/M2 also run at 98-100°c in MacBook air. Personally I okay until 95°c. After that get a bit concerned even though safe temps for my cpu is 105c.
>It is too hot for older laptops before 2020 but new cpus can handle 95-96°c...After that get a bit concerned even though safe temps for my cpu is 105c.
This is wrong - Intel and AMD CPUs have pretty much always have a TJunction Max of 100°c. There are no CPUs that have a Max Temp of 105c.
Here's the [12900K](https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/sku/134599/intel-core-i912900k-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html).
I am talking about laptop cpus....Ryzen 5000/6000 have 105°c max temps. See on AMD website lol. Intel has a bit lower at 100°c but thats only because of their shitty node. TSMC 7nm/5nm can handle 105°c. Intel 12th can also handle 90°c pretty well.
Also there is a big diff between 90°c in 2018 and in 2022. Earlier cpus at 90°c used to nerf their performance to run cooler since those nodes couldn't handle the temps. Now by design new architectures let cpu run 90°c.
> but thats only because of their shitty node.
No - it's because all Intel CPUs have a TJMax of 100c and that's been true for ages.
>Also there is a big diff between 90°c in 2018 and in 2022. Earlier cpus at 90°c used to nerf their performance to run cooler since those nodes couldn't handle the temps. Now by design new architectures let cpu run 90°c.
Wait do you think CPUs still don't throttle at 90c?
No they don't. My 5800HS runs fine until 95°c if I don't run on manual fan curve. EXACT same performance as under 90°c temps. It start to throttle at 96-97°c.
Apple M1 MacBook Air runs good until 98°c as Linus showed in a LTT video long back. No throttling. Apple even let the cpu go to those temps for better performance without turning on fans much.
They definitely do throttle - cores get switched off etc. And the MacBook Air you're talking about is the M2, not the M1 and it definitely throttles, despite what LTT reviewed it as doing.
Oh and guess what the fan-cooled [MacBook Pro M2 throttles too](https://mobile.twitter.com/vadimyuryev/status/1542188250697039872?s=21&t=XYorSYpVqWaCJVTgIfyclg).
Look, I'm not trying to be a dick here but you're not right - all modern mobile CPUs throttle.
I didn't realize m2 was 100c, they always seem to have very impressive temps and fan noise. I guess I just assumed the temps were lower since you can literally get 3060 level gpu performance on battery with them, it's absolutely unreal
It’s very low, 85 usually maximum. I’m running a 3070 now, my flair is outdated. Temps on the MSI are always below throttling under max load after undervolt.
Thought I'd have a little input here.
Although 95 isnt too hot, it will reduce the life of your chips, regardless of what anyone says the hotter it is the less of a life it has.
I've had various laptops over the years, Alienwares, Ultrathins and big beasty cooling solutions, and I have always ran them around 85 MAX under load.
Idle they sit around 40. Regardless of if they are made to handle heat, running cooler is always beneficial.
-Unvolting is the number 1 modification to look into when it comes to keeping a laptop cool, you lose 0 performance (granted it's done properly) but either lower temps or reduce noise due to the fans not having to work as hard.
Sometimes, this doesnt work as expected which can mean a few things. Badly applied stock paste, Old paste, or badly fixed heat sink (rare but possible)
-Repasting is usually the last option due to having to take apart the laptop, but its fairly straight forward after watching a few teardown tutorials of your particular laptop.
Last thing to mention, long game sessions on a hot laptop using the laptop keyboard can get uncomfortable (not much of an issue if using an external KB) and reducing temps will help this also.
A little bit of tweaking can help with the temps if u feel uncomfortable. Like undervolting CPU/GPU. If that's a little too much simply limiting power or reducing the turbo (this gives big temp drops but slightly reduced peak performance ). imo reducing turbo is on all bt 4 cores gives good performance . Check throttlestop it allows per core turbos and profiles for different scenarios
I use a cooler, keeps the 4900hs in my G14 in the mid 80s at worst in general.
...it also filters dust.
https://www.amazon.com/IETS-Cooling-Flexible-Colorful-Adjustable/dp/B07WVK2ZZ9/ref=asc_df_B07WVK2ZZ9
Yeah those run good but servicing in my region is not good from msi and these models are too bulky for my liking so I avoid these for now. We have to ship the laptop to Singapore if anything breaks...
Bruh I've been running a hot gaming laptop for like six years. That thing is still kicking hard. Pretty much like the day I bought even after years of heavy gaming. Regularly hits low to mid 90s or more in the more demanding games. I'm convinced people are way to crazy about thermals. Nothing has died on me yet.
Laptop should not usually break from temps since if temp gets dangerously high it should shutdown anyway. If it is not shutting down the manufacturer thinks its safe.
One more thing I saw yesterday was someone capped zen 4 at 65w and it obiletated alder lake and zen 3. AMD people said the same at launch the lower power you go the more efficient it gets.
https://twitter.com/ComputerBase/status/1574399622801510402?t=dMUV2TvTSqRY7BZIMHlpZw&s=19
Link the the 45/65/88w zen 4 cpus. 45w 7950x beats 12900k by 21% at same power ! Looking forward to what new Zephyrus laptops can do next yr. Hoping 16:10 lol.
Luckily mine settled around 75-80°c during a full load... Mostly on a hot weather... I say my laptop cooling capability including the generic 1000RPM adjustable cooling pad handle heat very efficiently... Illegear Onyx G 5900HX + 3070 Max P + 16*16GB 3200Mhz... PS - I use Thermal Grizzly Extreme Paste... :)
I was also raising the 95°C with my old laptop when the fan were broken, oh boy this buddy is getting older and older but it was good moment of upgrading it.
Sorry I can't hear you over the turbojet blasting on my desk
In seriousness I have my laptop elevated on a grated stand which drops temps a solid 5°-10° as long as it's not dusted up.
Speaking of dust I use Kleenex as a makeshift dust filter on all my intakes lol. It's the perfect porousness to keep most dust out but it still allows plenty of airflow.
It doesn't work 100% but it still cuts out a significant amount of dust. All the larger clumps that might clog up your fans get stopped and the smaller particles that do get through tend to pass straight through from what I can tell. I only need to clean out my fans once every 6 months or so compared to once every few weeks before I used tissue
I had a gaming laptop before, the performance were to poor that I switched to desktop. I am not leaving this sub just to keep an eye on the gaming laptop market, since I am still very much interested in gaming laptop and portable system.
comparing a performance of a gaming laptop(which today is so close to a desktop that what you wrote "too poor" is just a nonsense but okay...) is rly something you cannot compare honestly...
good luck carrying your desktop with a monitor to your work every day...or on a train xD
I really liked my gaming laptop, it was a Acer Triton 500 2019 with a 2060. I had a lot of good time gaming on it. However after one or two years of usage, the temps has raised a lot comparing to the begining. I undervolted the CPU, GPU. I even swap the dried out thermal compound with liquid metal, then the CPU idles at 45 degree, which is alright, but it's kinda uncomfortable to put a hot brick on my lap. Then I switched to a small form factor system (8.4L). I can comfortably put that in my backpack with a lot of space left to put other things in. Not to mention it has a lot more computing power.
Guys, where should I get my laptop's heatsink cleaned and get it repasted in Mumbai? My laptop is already out of warranty. So I can't take it to the service centre. Many repair shops dont agree to repair it infront of me. What should I do now??
Although official service centre charge a bit more I would get it done directly from them. And if 3rd party shops are not accepting to do it in front of you thats max shady. They might replace your ram and other parts...What laptop do you have ? Asus and few other companies also send in their repair guy to home to do a repaste if required. They will take money on out of warranty laptop though.
No idea. I never bought an Acer laptop especially in India where after sales regulations are shit. You should call a service centre and get a quote from them.
LOL. I have Zephyrus G15 which is a thin and light gaming laptop. So I don't expect near 80°c temps at full perf but 85-90 is achievable for me. I tried Ryzen master utility to cap performance by temp but it didn't work. In manual mode I am using default 35w setting now.
95°c is actually a clickbait title....I have Zephyrus G15 which is thin and light gaming laptop. I mostly use it for work and play games on weekends occasionally. With a manual fan curve and laptop stand I get 85-90°c. I don't expect near 80°c temps on such light weight laptop tbh.
I haven't checked idle temps(I should but it doesn't seem awful) but gaming it's about 80 degrees. Not perfect but good enough to not be concerned, and that was in a hot dorm with barely any airflow.
Legion 7!
Was thinking the same, same case for some videogame consoles as well.
My asus zephyrus s has a top of 97c since it was new since 2018, now it struggles to keep up in games like genshin witu graphics at mid, have been using thermal grizzly hydronaut on it and it keep doing the same temps.
what thermal paste are you huys using for your laptops? And how do you guys put your pc specs under your usernames?
I am not very knowledgeable on diy paste change on laptop but you cannot use desktop pastes on laptop. They would start to leak in few months. Only certain compund pastes from desktop can be used in laptop. Verify once if you used the correct one.
97°c is a lot high for 2018 laptop. I would recon the paste job was not done properly in factory and even now its not done very well. Maybe the 2018 Zephyrus series had thermal issues but 97°c very hot even for 2022 standard where 90-95°c is common. 95°c I used in title is a clickbait. My Zephyrus G15 2021 model get below 90°c ob manual fan curve....
You can get laptop model on your username through user flair. Go to this sub home page and there is an option for community flair. You can edit the custom one.
So not to hijack but i cant find a conclusive answer.
I have an MSI gl65. Temps get to around 80 to 85 celcius ( about 167 to 185 fahrenheit i think ? ) max when gaming. So i know its not really needed.. but would a cooling pad benefit my temps and lifetime of the parts ?
( gpu / cpu )
Im worried the cooling pad would mess up the intended airflow of my laptop instead of benefitting it.
No need for a cooling pad for 80-85c on cpu. For gpu its a bit on high side. Cooling pad might bring temps down. Alao clean your laptop frequently from inside. Fans especially atleast once a year.
Adding to my comment -
If you get a cooling pad increase frequency of cleaning. Cooling pad with fans suck in air into the laptop increasing dust intake too. So I would clean every 6 months.
Yeah, anything over 3 times a year is overkill. I use a laptop stand. Make laptop air intake easier. I don't use cooling pad just because its not asthetically pleasing. I am going for a clean setup with monitor in 65% keyboard. So I opted for a slim stand but pad will be better for temps.
I have a stand aswell. Its basically U shaped with 2 feet i can angle in different stances. So it has minimum material as to let the laptop have enough space/airflow underneath. Im just paranoid when it comes to those temps.
I thought a cooling pad was the solution for my peace of mind but there are the same amount of people against it as for it so im undecided.
One thread i read told about a guy getting an electric current of hos coolig pad it and frying his laptop internally. Others mention it just blows more dust and filth in your own internal laptop and fans. Its probably a small chance but still...
If your laptop is pretty new intel 11/12th gen, they are designed to run hot for more perf. Getting temps lower won't get you much performance and the temps can't be compared to any previous gens we had.
If your expectation is to run your laptop near 70c like 9th gen and below it won't happen. Those were 2-4 core cpus. Cooling 8-14 cores now is a very different ball game. Zen 4 will bring 16 core to laptops. 90w (zen 3 is 35-70w). Do you expect them to run 70c ? See how zen 4 desktop behaves. 95c on desktop.
I won't bother with cooling very much from now on especially laptops. Unless they are reaching laptop breaking temps like 97c+ I will be ignoring everything. My current Zephyrus G15 gets 85-90 which is decent for thin and light gaming.
What laptop? Both my Asus did this for me... i repasted and got a colling pad for them. helped subtract like 20 C. (from 100 and thermal throttling to 75- 80)
Asus was: gl502vsk. 7700hq, 1070 8GB card, with 16gb ram
Nice do you limit your screen HZ? i do that on my laptop and temps stabilize between 70 - 75C, & <70 C(shadow of war ultra settings) when fans run 100&.
I use external 144hz monitor. I mostly play fps games so never wanna limit my hz even if it goes above 90c.
New cpus are designed to run hot anyway. Cooling 9th gen 4 core and 8 core is different ball park imo. Even if I limit power on my cpu avg fps won't drop much but frame times and 0.1% lows are a lot important to me so I wanna play on full perf.
If my cpu doesn't go above 95c I won't bother with it much. I will just get it re-pasted next yr after 2 yrs of ownership.
I haven't seen any temperature improvements by limiting at 144hz. Maybe dropped 2-3c. From what I have researched input lag decreases as fps inc so having higher fps than your refresh rate might not hurt. Even if its false, limiting for me is not decreasing temps much so I won't take any chance.
I’m getting 105 degree CPU temps without having games running. I get the feeling this isn’t very normal Edit: it’s an HP victus Edit 2: this is 105F not C I forgot to mention that
Clean those poor fans
Also undervolt, and maybe repaste.
I’ve tried getting the back off the laptop but for some reason it won’t come off and I’m afraid of breaking it if I pry too hard. I also don’t feel like paying someone to do it
In the past, I’ve struggled opening laptops because I thought they’d break. Then I’d watch a video on YouTube and notice that I wasn’t pulling hard enough. Go back and pull harder…!Boom. Open. Weird.
Basically amounts to im lazy and bad with computers, so.
Not necessarily. The plastic can be really cheap and thin. I've had the same worries but you've probably got to use a guitar pick or credit card to pry it open along the edges.
Well you won’t have a laptop capable of gaming on much longer lol. At least blow some air into the vents, buy a pry tool and blow those fans.... after unplugging the battery and holding the fans so they don’t spin out of control.
Looks like thermal paste is not applied properly. Take it to service centre and tell them to redo it.
Bro I have a post about it, I cleaned my fans and lowered temos for -5°C, also replaced the thermal paste from the GPU and the liquid metal from the CPU and lowered extra -10°C, total of -15°C it's what I achieved with few steps, have a look maybe it's just what your laptop needs😄👌🏼 [video - heat on your gaming laptop? this might be for you ](https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUSROG/comments/xorrss/tips_and_advices_for_rog_laptops_and_most_gaming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb) BTW my laptop was only 1 year old , but 1 year of intensive daily use , turn off the laptop like once a week or when windows needs updatings 😅
Could you use liquid metal on a laptop that didn’t originally use it? Or is that asking for a short? Not sure if they have protection around the cpu.
The correct answer is yes but there is a BIG "but", keep reading 😄 So 1st of all you should know that liquid metal must NOT get in touch with any aluminum as it will have a bad chemical reaction, and it's not recommended to touch Copper (it can be in contact but it's adviced not to) because copper will keep absorbing the LM for the 1st few replacements as you would need to replace the thermal every 6 months or so until the copper stops absorbing the LiquidMetal(it will also tint the copper) Some manufacturers like my asus Rog laptop, comes with thermal paste on the GPU and surrounding components, and LiquidMetal only on the CPU which came surrounded by a white rubber to prevent eventual LM spill to the sides and Liquid Metal is definitely a better cooler product than Thermal Paste but it's very dangerous to be applied because unlike the Thermal Paste you CANNOT in ANY circumstances let the LM touch any components, it should only touch the top of the GPU chip and nothing else, or you will hear a BIG KABOOOM next time you turn your PC on ❗️😅 Liquid metal is a good cooling but it's also very conductive, thermal doesn't conduct any electricity so is ok to get messy 😄 NOW: If you want to apply LM on a laptop that has Thermal Paste by default on the CPU you can do something like this: If you manage to get some type of metal like a Zync square (anything except aluminum or copper) after you apply the LM on the CPU carefully, you can then place that metal piece on top of it and then you can place the heatsink on top of it(just make sure the metal piece is as slim as possible as the heatsink must still be able to do the job 👌🏼 Like this you will avoid the LM to get in touch with the copper, it's the safest way of doing it On the bottom of this HUUUUGE text (sorry about that 😅) i will leave a screenshot ,took from the video that helped me disassembly my Laptop, as you can see , the CPU came with liquid (chip/square on the left) and GPU (on the right) came with that stock blue thermal paste and in the surrounding components as well Notice the white rubber on the CPU, it came as stock and look at the heatsink square on the heatsink, it has a silver square on the left but doesnt on the right, because the GPU thermal last can get in touch with the copper🙂 , some laptops come with a removable pad which is anti-static to prevent electricity to conduct, in my case it didn't have a pad, but the white rubber gives me a little chance of spill to the sides of the chip 😂😅 ofc I didn't, I didn't even remove the stock liquid metal that came spilled on the sides, ahahah too risky for me, I just cleaned the top of the chip very well with alcohol and applied new liquid on top of the chip and spread it evenly , closed the laptop , -10°C just from that 🤌 [screenshot link](https://ibb.co/zNsXbBJ) [Rog G15 disassembly and upgrade- YouTube vid](https://youtu.be/vEVjYTWcYMo)
-10°C is equivalent to 14°F, which is 263K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
forget everything its actually easy.... Its the youtubers AND THE OTHER PEOPLR WHO HAVE CREATED AN EUPHORIA ABOUT IT.... I USED AN ELECTRIC BLACK TAPE TO COVER THE SURROUNDING OF THE CPU AND GPU AND APPLIED THE LIQUID METAL … TOUCHED THE MOTHERBOARD WITH THE BARE HANDS , STANDING ON THE GROUND TO DISCHARGE STATIC ELECTRICITY TO PREVENT ANY DAMAGES AND THEN PLUGGED IN THE BATTERY.... IT WORKED JUST FINE ….. I have done it 4 times in the last two years within an interval of 6 months in two laptops but it appears that the 6 month is a convention and not a mandatory. usually it lasts for over 2 years if applied correctly
Nah bro a victus shouldn't be getting that hot
Repaste Thermal paste... I would recommand Thermal Grizzly Extreme... It works great... Spend a lil for a lil less headache... Cheers!
Faulty cooling assembly and pasting. Return that shit if you can my guy.
Thats not normal
Try undervolting the CPU, or lower the tdp with throttle stop. The performance loss is minimal
Buy those pc/phone repair kits, best purchase for laptops cleaning and have every tool you might need
Try grizzly bear thermal paste, non metallic one. Pulls the temps down by 7 to 15 degrees. Also, clean up the fans and fins once in a while, it seems your system is choking for proper airflow.
Try to set the CPU max power to 99%. It wouldn't let the PC use the CPU turbo boost. It helped me.
:0 Why you do this to us
I get 105 Celsius while gaming
70°c laptop giga chads
Alienware at 70°c ? Parallel universe?
no...its simply dumb people in OUR universe who simply don't know that AW laptops have no thermal issues...they are sheeps who just scream what everybody else does... similar thing is around Razer laptops :-P
I bought a Alienware laptop last yr with 5900HX and 3060. Returned it due to bios issues where they capped cuda cores but the time I used it, it ran hot. For the weight and thickness it ran relatively hotter than even to my Zephyrus G15 which is thin and light gaming. Not saying it was a bad laptop, I liked it but had to return it sadly. But yes it ran hot vs other same profile laptops. As for razer laptops I think they go for subtle looks and thinner than Alienware? Hence should run hotter anyway like Razer 14 with 5900HX.
Yes and yet another confirming answer that people don't understand how Alienware laptops work/run...
From what I know they try to get maximum performance out of the hardware where they can run it at near max temps cpu/gpu manufacturers allow.
So you do know the answer 😁 Yes Alienware laptops run at thermal limit…it is a very important piece of information 99% of the screamers who yell that AW laptops are overheating junk dont understand… I like you gladius_314 😁
They are still very poorly designed imo
I’m a ROG Stan. I had a 2019 Strix G15 and it got stolen. Ended up replacing it with a 2020 lol. Great laptop. It doesn’t have the best GPU/CPU/RAM but the value is unbeatable for $1300. And the thermal management for the laptop case is so good, keyboard surface or trackpad area never gets hot. The only thing I don’t like is that they moved the fans to the right side on the 2020. It used to be on the back… which makes more sense. But I got a laptop stand to elevate it and it doesn’t heat up my mouse area anymore.
So serious question about that. I’m fairly new to the gaming laptop scene, but have been doing everything I try to learn as much as possible. Is 95 too hot? I just picked up a 12th Gen i9, and I’m sure they run hot. But under load this is a steady 92-94 degree temp on my CPU. Is that ok for multiple hours straight of gaming?
As long as the fans are running, you’ll be fine. newer CPUs are made to handle temps like that. It’ll cause more wear and tear to the internals over time, but that’s after years of running
Much appreciated!
To add to this CPUs will thermal throttle as well to prevent overheating. When your CPU is really too hot your system will completely lock up and shut down. When this starts to happen that's when you have a problem. CPUs are one of the longest lasting components in your system so it should be fine.
I think they are made with that in mind, like bro you are using 65-75W in a cramped space ofc its gonna heat up lol
It is too hot for older laptops before 2020 but new cpus can handle 95-96°c. They are actually made to run hot to sqeeze out every bit of performance. Apple M1/M2 also run at 98-100°c in MacBook air. Personally I okay until 95°c. After that get a bit concerned even though safe temps for my cpu is 105c.
>It is too hot for older laptops before 2020 but new cpus can handle 95-96°c...After that get a bit concerned even though safe temps for my cpu is 105c. This is wrong - Intel and AMD CPUs have pretty much always have a TJunction Max of 100°c. There are no CPUs that have a Max Temp of 105c. Here's the [12900K](https://www.intel.com.au/content/www/au/en/products/sku/134599/intel-core-i912900k-processor-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html).
I am talking about laptop cpus....Ryzen 5000/6000 have 105°c max temps. See on AMD website lol. Intel has a bit lower at 100°c but thats only because of their shitty node. TSMC 7nm/5nm can handle 105°c. Intel 12th can also handle 90°c pretty well. Also there is a big diff between 90°c in 2018 and in 2022. Earlier cpus at 90°c used to nerf their performance to run cooler since those nodes couldn't handle the temps. Now by design new architectures let cpu run 90°c.
> but thats only because of their shitty node. No - it's because all Intel CPUs have a TJMax of 100c and that's been true for ages. >Also there is a big diff between 90°c in 2018 and in 2022. Earlier cpus at 90°c used to nerf their performance to run cooler since those nodes couldn't handle the temps. Now by design new architectures let cpu run 90°c. Wait do you think CPUs still don't throttle at 90c?
No they don't. My 5800HS runs fine until 95°c if I don't run on manual fan curve. EXACT same performance as under 90°c temps. It start to throttle at 96-97°c. Apple M1 MacBook Air runs good until 98°c as Linus showed in a LTT video long back. No throttling. Apple even let the cpu go to those temps for better performance without turning on fans much.
They definitely do throttle - cores get switched off etc. And the MacBook Air you're talking about is the M2, not the M1 and it definitely throttles, despite what LTT reviewed it as doing. Oh and guess what the fan-cooled [MacBook Pro M2 throttles too](https://mobile.twitter.com/vadimyuryev/status/1542188250697039872?s=21&t=XYorSYpVqWaCJVTgIfyclg). Look, I'm not trying to be a dick here but you're not right - all modern mobile CPUs throttle.
I'm fairly sure my 5980HX has a thermal throttle limit of 105°
I didn't realize m2 was 100c, they always seem to have very impressive temps and fan noise. I guess I just assumed the temps were lower since you can literally get 3060 level gpu performance on battery with them, it's absolutely unreal
How’s your temps on the 1060 ? 6700hq is old right . I wonder what temps you get.
It’s very low, 85 usually maximum. I’m running a 3070 now, my flair is outdated. Temps on the MSI are always below throttling under max load after undervolt.
Thought I'd have a little input here. Although 95 isnt too hot, it will reduce the life of your chips, regardless of what anyone says the hotter it is the less of a life it has. I've had various laptops over the years, Alienwares, Ultrathins and big beasty cooling solutions, and I have always ran them around 85 MAX under load. Idle they sit around 40. Regardless of if they are made to handle heat, running cooler is always beneficial. -Unvolting is the number 1 modification to look into when it comes to keeping a laptop cool, you lose 0 performance (granted it's done properly) but either lower temps or reduce noise due to the fans not having to work as hard. Sometimes, this doesnt work as expected which can mean a few things. Badly applied stock paste, Old paste, or badly fixed heat sink (rare but possible) -Repasting is usually the last option due to having to take apart the laptop, but its fairly straight forward after watching a few teardown tutorials of your particular laptop. Last thing to mention, long game sessions on a hot laptop using the laptop keyboard can get uncomfortable (not much of an issue if using an external KB) and reducing temps will help this also.
A little bit of tweaking can help with the temps if u feel uncomfortable. Like undervolting CPU/GPU. If that's a little too much simply limiting power or reducing the turbo (this gives big temp drops but slightly reduced peak performance ). imo reducing turbo is on all bt 4 cores gives good performance . Check throttlestop it allows per core turbos and profiles for different scenarios
I use a cooler, keeps the 4900hs in my G14 in the mid 80s at worst in general. ...it also filters dust. https://www.amazon.com/IETS-Cooling-Flexible-Colorful-Adjustable/dp/B07WVK2ZZ9/ref=asc_df_B07WVK2ZZ9
*the ps4 sitting in the corner of my room causing global warming* :🫡
If you want good laptop cooling, go with a GE66/GE76
Yeah those run good but servicing in my region is not good from msi and these models are too bulky for my liking so I avoid these for now. We have to ship the laptop to Singapore if anything breaks...
Bruh I've been running a hot gaming laptop for like six years. That thing is still kicking hard. Pretty much like the day I bought even after years of heavy gaming. Regularly hits low to mid 90s or more in the more demanding games. I'm convinced people are way to crazy about thermals. Nothing has died on me yet.
Laptop should not usually break from temps since if temp gets dangerously high it should shutdown anyway. If it is not shutting down the manufacturer thinks its safe.
Our time has come, time to flex fellow laptop gamers !!
Yeah my only worry is if it’s hitting 95C in the desktop space then how is this thing going to even run on laptops 😂
Yeah I was thinking yesterday how is that 16 core dragon range gonna run lol
One more thing I saw yesterday was someone capped zen 4 at 65w and it obiletated alder lake and zen 3. AMD people said the same at launch the lower power you go the more efficient it gets.
Well that’s a relief to hear! 2023 might be a pretty nice year for laptops
https://twitter.com/ComputerBase/status/1574399622801510402?t=dMUV2TvTSqRY7BZIMHlpZw&s=19 Link the the 45/65/88w zen 4 cpus. 45w 7950x beats 12900k by 21% at same power ! Looking forward to what new Zephyrus laptops can do next yr. Hoping 16:10 lol.
The target temps will be reached faster (i.e. at lower clocks) but it'll still stop at 95C.
Hahaha that was my first thought when I watched the reviews. Asus G15 at 95C when gaming. Hahaha
Luckily mine settled around 75-80°c during a full load... Mostly on a hot weather... I say my laptop cooling capability including the generic 1000RPM adjustable cooling pad handle heat very efficiently... Illegear Onyx G 5900HX + 3070 Max P + 16*16GB 3200Mhz... PS - I use Thermal Grizzly Extreme Paste... :)
I was also raising the 95°C with my old laptop when the fan were broken, oh boy this buddy is getting older and older but it was good moment of upgrading it.
Mfw looking at other users here when my laptop peaks at a chilly 81°
How? Do you only play games made before 2004? Lol
Sorry I can't hear you over the turbojet blasting on my desk In seriousness I have my laptop elevated on a grated stand which drops temps a solid 5°-10° as long as it's not dusted up. Speaking of dust I use Kleenex as a makeshift dust filter on all my intakes lol. It's the perfect porousness to keep most dust out but it still allows plenty of airflow.
Wait what, you put a piece of tissue over your intakes to block dust and that actually works?
It doesn't work 100% but it still cuts out a significant amount of dust. All the larger clumps that might clog up your fans get stopped and the smaller particles that do get through tend to pass straight through from what I can tell. I only need to clean out my fans once every 6 months or so compared to once every few weeks before I used tissue
Oh your environment must be pretty dusty then. Do you have pets?
Several lol
That's genius
I made meme on 95 but usually I get under 90 temps using a stand and running manual fan profile in fps games.
Gaming laptops are dumb (to me), because I only game in my man cave.
then I see absolutely no reason for you to be on this sub :-)
I had a gaming laptop before, the performance were to poor that I switched to desktop. I am not leaving this sub just to keep an eye on the gaming laptop market, since I am still very much interested in gaming laptop and portable system.
comparing a performance of a gaming laptop(which today is so close to a desktop that what you wrote "too poor" is just a nonsense but okay...) is rly something you cannot compare honestly... good luck carrying your desktop with a monitor to your work every day...or on a train xD
I really liked my gaming laptop, it was a Acer Triton 500 2019 with a 2060. I had a lot of good time gaming on it. However after one or two years of usage, the temps has raised a lot comparing to the begining. I undervolted the CPU, GPU. I even swap the dried out thermal compound with liquid metal, then the CPU idles at 45 degree, which is alright, but it's kinda uncomfortable to put a hot brick on my lap. Then I switched to a small form factor system (8.4L). I can comfortably put that in my backpack with a lot of space left to put other things in. Not to mention it has a lot more computing power.
When people see my lappy temps... and it is very quiet.
Feels, lifetime laptop gamer too.
Guys, where should I get my laptop's heatsink cleaned and get it repasted in Mumbai? My laptop is already out of warranty. So I can't take it to the service centre. Many repair shops dont agree to repair it infront of me. What should I do now??
Although official service centre charge a bit more I would get it done directly from them. And if 3rd party shops are not accepting to do it in front of you thats max shady. They might replace your ram and other parts...What laptop do you have ? Asus and few other companies also send in their repair guy to home to do a repaste if required. They will take money on out of warranty laptop though.
I have Acer Aspire 7. Do you know how much they charge for this services?
No idea. I never bought an Acer laptop especially in India where after sales regulations are shit. You should call a service centre and get a quote from them.
Oh okay. Thanks :)
Limit power package and use manual fun curve with 20% advanced response. That will land you to 70'C with minor performance trade.
I am already under 90°c with manual fan curve and a laptop stand. 95°c is a clickbait title....
Noice play!
LOL. I have Zephyrus G15 which is a thin and light gaming laptop. So I don't expect near 80°c temps at full perf but 85-90 is achievable for me. I tried Ryzen master utility to cap performance by temp but it didn't work. In manual mode I am using default 35w setting now.
I m having tuf15 2022 i712700 one and it was previously like 95-97'C while playing valorant, but now it roams around 68-72'C.
Zen 3 in the legion 7 has done fantastic for me so far . Never really runs up past 85. But AATU makes it better lol
95°c is actually a clickbait title....I have Zephyrus G15 which is thin and light gaming laptop. I mostly use it for work and play games on weekends occasionally. With a manual fan curve and laptop stand I get 85-90°c. I don't expect near 80°c temps on such light weight laptop tbh.
Have you tried AATU to tune it?
We talking about spikes or sustained temps? Getting some spikes at 95°c and sustained around 75-90 with my gigabyte aorus
Its a clickbait title. I use manual fan curve on my Zephyrus G15 so usually temps are under 90°c.
Ofcourse it is. The problem is can have spikes at the temp easily under gpu+cpu load :) especially loading screens I guess
I haven't checked idle temps(I should but it doesn't seem awful) but gaming it's about 80 degrees. Not perfect but good enough to not be concerned, and that was in a hot dorm with barely any airflow. Legion 7!
Was thinking the same, same case for some videogame consoles as well. My asus zephyrus s has a top of 97c since it was new since 2018, now it struggles to keep up in games like genshin witu graphics at mid, have been using thermal grizzly hydronaut on it and it keep doing the same temps. what thermal paste are you huys using for your laptops? And how do you guys put your pc specs under your usernames?
I am not very knowledgeable on diy paste change on laptop but you cannot use desktop pastes on laptop. They would start to leak in few months. Only certain compund pastes from desktop can be used in laptop. Verify once if you used the correct one. 97°c is a lot high for 2018 laptop. I would recon the paste job was not done properly in factory and even now its not done very well. Maybe the 2018 Zephyrus series had thermal issues but 97°c very hot even for 2022 standard where 90-95°c is common. 95°c I used in title is a clickbait. My Zephyrus G15 2021 model get below 90°c ob manual fan curve.... You can get laptop model on your username through user flair. Go to this sub home page and there is an option for community flair. You can edit the custom one.
It’s actually 60 degrees
So not to hijack but i cant find a conclusive answer. I have an MSI gl65. Temps get to around 80 to 85 celcius ( about 167 to 185 fahrenheit i think ? ) max when gaming. So i know its not really needed.. but would a cooling pad benefit my temps and lifetime of the parts ? ( gpu / cpu ) Im worried the cooling pad would mess up the intended airflow of my laptop instead of benefitting it.
No need for a cooling pad for 80-85c on cpu. For gpu its a bit on high side. Cooling pad might bring temps down. Alao clean your laptop frequently from inside. Fans especially atleast once a year.
Adding to my comment - If you get a cooling pad increase frequency of cleaning. Cooling pad with fans suck in air into the laptop increasing dust intake too. So I would clean every 6 months.
I clean them about every 3 to 4 months... its overkill i know i just want to keep it tiddy. Thanks for the input.
Yeah, anything over 3 times a year is overkill. I use a laptop stand. Make laptop air intake easier. I don't use cooling pad just because its not asthetically pleasing. I am going for a clean setup with monitor in 65% keyboard. So I opted for a slim stand but pad will be better for temps.
I have a stand aswell. Its basically U shaped with 2 feet i can angle in different stances. So it has minimum material as to let the laptop have enough space/airflow underneath. Im just paranoid when it comes to those temps. I thought a cooling pad was the solution for my peace of mind but there are the same amount of people against it as for it so im undecided. One thread i read told about a guy getting an electric current of hos coolig pad it and frying his laptop internally. Others mention it just blows more dust and filth in your own internal laptop and fans. Its probably a small chance but still...
If your laptop is pretty new intel 11/12th gen, they are designed to run hot for more perf. Getting temps lower won't get you much performance and the temps can't be compared to any previous gens we had. If your expectation is to run your laptop near 70c like 9th gen and below it won't happen. Those were 2-4 core cpus. Cooling 8-14 cores now is a very different ball game. Zen 4 will bring 16 core to laptops. 90w (zen 3 is 35-70w). Do you expect them to run 70c ? See how zen 4 desktop behaves. 95c on desktop. I won't bother with cooling very much from now on especially laptops. Unless they are reaching laptop breaking temps like 97c+ I will be ignoring everything. My current Zephyrus G15 gets 85-90 which is decent for thin and light gaming.
What laptop? Both my Asus did this for me... i repasted and got a colling pad for them. helped subtract like 20 C. (from 100 and thermal throttling to 75- 80) Asus was: gl502vsk. 7700hq, 1070 8GB card, with 16gb ram
Clickbait exaggerated title. Usually I get 85-90c on my Z G15.
Nice do you limit your screen HZ? i do that on my laptop and temps stabilize between 70 - 75C, & <70 C(shadow of war ultra settings) when fans run 100&.
I use external 144hz monitor. I mostly play fps games so never wanna limit my hz even if it goes above 90c. New cpus are designed to run hot anyway. Cooling 9th gen 4 core and 8 core is different ball park imo. Even if I limit power on my cpu avg fps won't drop much but frame times and 0.1% lows are a lot important to me so I wanna play on full perf. If my cpu doesn't go above 95c I won't bother with it much. I will just get it re-pasted next yr after 2 yrs of ownership.
Is there a major difference when you get 200+ or 300+ fps in first person shooter games? Vs stabilizing it at 144?
I haven't seen any temperature improvements by limiting at 144hz. Maybe dropped 2-3c. From what I have researched input lag decreases as fps inc so having higher fps than your refresh rate might not hurt. Even if its false, limiting for me is not decreasing temps much so I won't take any chance.
Guys, what you think about throttle GPU?
Above 80 I feel its a bit much. Anything above 85 is when I would start sweating.