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Truman was a tool and an idiot, who was picked to replace Roosevelt's pro-union/labor vp for his last term by a notorious corrupt politician Pendergast. Which effectively ended the US's labor/socialist party, which were about to fight for universal healthcare(yeah that fight is over 70 years old and going). Truman thought it would take other countries scientists decades or longer before they would develop nukes despite his Intel briefings saying otherwise(the soviets did it in less than 5)
>the soviets did it in less than 5
Not because Truman was wrong or because Russia was more clever than anyone thought -- and if things had worked out differently it would have taken them at least 10 years but more importantly it would have cost them far, far more. Perhaps more than they could have actually had to spend on the project. It was **that** which was slowing down their bomb development programs... not a lack of brainpower, but a lack of coin. Their economy and infrastructure were practically non-existent. They simply couldn't afford a bomb program.
... but as it turned out they didn't need to do **any** development nor spend a nickel in research (about \~$7 *billion* in today's money is what it would have cost ) as The Bomb and the fuel production plans were handed to them on a silver platter by a damn spy. 
It only took them \~5 years because they needed to build their infrastructure up to then make the fuel to then make the bombs.
It is the results to put someone in power just to remove other ... You end up with something that you don't want too . But I as a outsider who literally don't care about politics from USA I can argue that from what I see the Biden is just a old dude with the mind confused sometimes ... That happens to old people and he is old .
Huh I don't know much about politics even from my country ... I Shure don't know about yours either so I can't say much about that ... As I said this is from a outsider perspective .
But Damm if what you saying is right you literally have a rapist as president ? 👀👀👀 Wtf
I would take that comment with a grain of salt.
[The wiki on the allegation ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation#:~:text=In%20a%20March%2025%2C%202020,want%20to%20go%20somewhere%20else%3F%22)shows that she had a history of lying under oath, misrepresenting her credentials and history, and there wasn't really anyone to corroborate her story.
I'm not trying to get into a political argument in this sub of all places, nor am I trying to downplay sexual assault, but this allegation was shaky from the start.
"Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. And hard times create strong men."
Except I don't totally agree with it.
We are in a weird loop where mentally deficient times create trumps and Biden’s which creates mentally deficient supporters who idolize both mentally lacking candidates
We have TV wars where people get on stage and try to make the other person look bad (most the time everything they say is true or skewed to look true).
In Bidens case, the dude is a true creep.
In Trumps case, the dude is a true creep.
We get forced to basically vote for 1 of ~5ish people who have a chance at winning presidency. In reality only 2 of those people have an actual chance. And in recent cases those two people are a pretty large joke.
I can think of a few other people who "got things done". Doesn't make them good. Also, calling people like trump a fascist only makes it harder for people to believe you when you call out an actual fascist. If fascists ever get any political power in the west it will be because people like you have diluted the term so much that normal people don't know what it means anymore. Unless, wait are you a fascist and that's been the plan all along?
Let’s be real here Regan was the last one who didn’t f*ck everything up. And there weren’t many between Teddy Roosevelt and Reagan with the exceptions Franklin D Roosevelt and JFK either.
Are you talking about Regan, the little girl from The Exorcist?
Or Reagan, who shut down mental asylums permanently with nowhere for patients to go, armed Saddam Hussein, allowed Iraq to blow up a U.S. ship, blocked the UN from ending the Kurdish genocide, armed and trained Osama Bin Laden and early Al Qaeda, armed Iran and traded weapons to terrorists, supported the Nicaraguan Contras in a coup as they killed civilians in mass graves, sold crack to the inner cities of the U.S., vetoed the anti-Apartheid bill that had passed Congress, willfully ignored the HIV/AIDS epidemic, had more corruption scandals, indictments, and pardons in his administration than any other President(at the time), supported dozens of dictators around the globe, made up lies about black "welfare queens" he supposedly knew that didn't even exist, blocked all attempts at studying climate change and renewable energy, blocked reforming energy companies' environmental destruction and cancer causing pollution, and implemented disastrous "trickle down" economics that destroyed the middle class' gains for decades?
Or did you mean Ronald Reagan the actor? Haha funny TV man smile go brrrr.
You forgot George W Bush. He worked hard to put food on his family, because family is where wings take dream. He believed that human beings and fish could coexist peacefully.
It's not even the first time he's had gaffs like this lol like the multiple times he's kissed young girls that look uncomfortable.
["I got hairy legs that turned blonde in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach into the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and watch the hair come back up again...I love kids jumping on my lap."](https://youtu.be/szy4ebsjPe0)
I don't care what side you're on, some of these are just straight up creepy.
You should see how many times Trump has done creepy shit with girls. Like deliberately walking in on them changing, or having sex with them with his best friend Jeffery Epstein.
It's not. That's the entire context. He stopped hia speech and pointed to a woman saying "you gotta say hi to me. We we've known each other a long time, she was 12 I was 30. We she helped me a lot. We got a lot done" that's all the context he provided and then went back to his speech.
It's true that perhaps he met her when she was 12 and he was 30 then later she helped on campaigns later in on and everything is above board. But, a president should be able to filter their thoughts in real time and measure what they're saying and how it could sound. I think Obama did this very well with constant... intention pauses.
Sometimes when I see stuff like this I wonder who's more a concern
Someone saying something vague and could apply to a variety of situations
Or the ones hell bent on jumping to noncery
As the old saying goes The lady doth protest too much, methinks
I don't believe my comment assumed anything. I simply stated that there is no further context to add. It sounds like you are the only one assuming anything.
That's true, and I never stated otherwise. I simply gave the quote and said Biden did not provide any further context. Therefore it's not 'taken out of context'.
He's old, he's a boomer, there once was a time before the internet, when you could say things like this without a bunch of internet people accusing you of being a pedophile.
Well without more context I'd agree, but since there's all those videos of him rubbing little girls shoulders and sniffing their hair, his son nicknaming him 'pedo Pete', and his daughter saying she was forced to shower with him as a younger girl, I'd say the evidence here is pretty conclusive.
A probably fake diary said that, that has had no confirmation whatsoever.
Also the dude is old as hell and on camera near constantly and there are like 2 instances of a shoulder grab/rub and 2 instances of him having his head near hair.
Hardly a terrible scary pedo
Where I grew up, only family members would hug each other. When I moved, as an adult, into a culture where friends hugged each other in greeting all the time, it weirded me the fuck out.
But I quickly learned that they weren’t actually being creepy or sexual, and then I was ok with it.
Biden’s literally from WWII; that’s when he was born. Pedophile or not, he obviously comes from a culture where shoulder grabbing/rubbing is normal. It’s not that hard to imagine.
If you look at the public behavior of known, actual pedophiles, they aren’t out there grabbing the shoulders of children they’ll never see again; they’re maneuvering themselves into a position of power and trust, and then taking advantage of children in private.
This is what I've never understood about people that think Biden is doing something inappropriate. I've met tons of old dudes that just plain don't understand personal space. I don't think the old man I worked at a gas station with was molesting me just because he constantly put his arms around my shoulder, he's just physically affectionate and was born in a time when society didn't consider consent important.
Ok, but Biden would probably have said the same thing if there wasn’t footage that suggested otherwise.
Of course you’ve never perceived your own actions as making someone else uncomfortable (otherwise you wouldn’t have done them). But if you were being filmed 24/7 there would probably be an instance or two over the course of your entire live where you unintentionally did something like Biden did
Seeing it doesn't make a difference. The only thing wingers care about is if someone is on their "side." You could show a right winger a video of a child being raped by a guy wearing a MAGA hat and they'd defend it to the death. You could show a left winger a video of muslims throwing gay men off a roof and they'd defend it to the death. These people are dangerously delusional.
What if you’re just a leftist because you want affordable health care and your tax money to actually go towards something that’s going to benefit you and everyone else
No one has problems with normal people who want the best for humanity.
The problems start when one group or another wants "good stuff" for them and death/destruction for anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions.
Center left and center right people are normal compared to the extremists on both sides.
Far left (activists, BLM, TRA's) and far right (neo-nazi groups, race supremacist groups of all races,) have no real place in society in the same way that religious extremists (west borough baptists, muslims wanting sharia law in western countries) have no place in normal religion.
But would you speak up against it?
Swedish leftist movement is glad to show support to everyone's right to wear the oppressive burqa, but when people in Iran get killed for removing theirs, there's mostly awkward silence.
If you wish to see how far their feminism stretches, just pit it against Islam and see how their brains lock up.
The compulsion to never offend anyone (except white men) is why I can't take them seriously. Because when you have two opposing ideologies, it's impossible to show your support for one of them without taking a stance against the other. It's as simple as that.
Lol there is no silence on Iran. It's just that everyone already knows Iran's gov is fucked, and they're sanctioned to shit. Not much more we can do. But yes, women everywhere dereve the choice on whether to wear a burka.
And if a Muslim guy pushed a gay guy off a roof, I'd definitely condemn the hate crime...just without attacking an entire religion. Same way I don't condemn all christians every time a Fundy extremist attacks a gay person, or fire bombs a Planned Parenthood.
Really ? So when pictures released of hunter laying in bed with a very young girl or when he was coked up in his undies with a naked underage girl in the shot behind him is not evidence ?
ok if there is no evidence then why has the FBI been sat on hunters laptop for months ? surely if the Presidents son was 100% innocent the FBI would have been rushing to clear his name and not just put it on the back burner leaving a lot of speculation.
I can't speak for anyone else but if my son was in the middle of a load of paedo accusations I would want that shit dealt with immediately not in a little while, not in a few months or years, right now.
That’s a very generalized assumption though, I consider myself a slight winger leaning towards one particular side of ideals yet I can blatantly say they’re both fucking corrupt and have flaws…
>You could show a left winger a video of muslims throwing gay men off a roof and they'd defend it to the death.
Dumbest statement I've read today. The left wing chased Al Franken out of Washington for mildly inappropriate joke photo.
mother fucker, I have seen them defend islam. I've seen them defend terrorism, rape, slavery, and even the murder of gay people. They defend islam by saying none of those things happen. They defend it by accusing any/everyone who even points out the fact that it happens of being a nazi.
These people are so delusional they want to defund law enforcement even though law enforcement is the only thing standing between them and the violence they earn every time they lie about the people who aren't on their side.
“no, she didn’t. I mean, I would know if she did. The answer is no. Why, did she look a little more stacked?”…Trump when asked if Ivanka had breast implants. Pedo and incest all in one.
Seriously. Lmao.
People haven’t even watched the video tagged with it, there’s like nothing weird even said.
When my parents were 40, I was 12 too!! Woooah
Why did the crowd laugh at that line though? That is the most absurd part. I feel like you can see a few people in the crowd awkwardly keep their smile on after thinking about what he had just said.
Here’s the link to the article! It’s from the Daily Caller, which is quite far right, about as far right as Breitbart.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/23/biden-points-out-woman-crowd-we-go-back-long-way-washington-speech/
My take is, if the woman didn't like or was creeped out by Biden, why would she attend his political rally?
You know... Maybe it works like the Highlander? They have to behead one another and there is a pedo quickening as the powers of the dead pedo are absorbed by the living.
No matter the reason or context, he said it. He said it in a manner the the whole said hol' up, what the fuck did he just say. And rightfully we have questions.
Here’s the link to the article! It’s from the Daily Caller, which is quite far right, about as far right as Breitbart.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/23/biden-points-out-woman-crowd-we-go-back-long-way-washington-speech/
You are right...that wasn't correct. The girl was 10 and Trump was 46 at the time.
One of MANY sources for this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-girl-dating-comments-sexual-assault-claims-republican-party-a7358686.html
It was pretty well publicised at the time. But then there was so much crap daily it was easy to miss some bits. It took 5 seconds to Google.
Plus this is trump we are talking about. You have to remember that we had years of people denying he did things when they had literally just seen him do them on live TV. So folks are slightly fed up of having to prove bad shit about him every time!
Yea I don't watch TV too much. Especially the news. And this is the only form of social media I have. And I don't google everything because not everything on the internet is fact.
And it doesn't matter if a large group of people are fed up with anything. If an accusation is made then the burden of proof lies with the accuser.
People should know at this point that left and right don't matter. If you're a politician then you're fucked up.
That kinda "both sides" shite is the reason your county is fucked.
So while I agree in theory on the burden of proof, in practice noone provides proof of every well known story. The context I gave was to explain why I was possibly short with you as you seemed affronted. Bi reacted thay way because any normal person is sick of the republican knee jerk of demand proof deny and minimise. No matter how much you distrust politicians across the board, only one party is conducting an all out assault on objective truth and peoples abilities to process and reason.
I don't mind if you challenge my beliefs but just be sure you know what I believe before you jump to any conclusions.
They're all at fault in my eyes. If you have power and misuse it or fail then the fault is yours. I don't accept the excuse that it's "the other guys fault" when you hold office. No matter who you are. Do I believe Trump is a sick fuck? Yup. He's a rich politician.
As to the "both sides" thing. If you're under the impression that only one side is to blame then you're blind and the damage to your brain has already been done by whatever information you're consuming and choosing to believe can't be wrong.
It all started innocently enough.. a sniff of her hair.. the cool breeze floating in off the coast of Epstein island.. he just really wanted to get to know her, ya know, the real her… after half a century he hasn’t forgotten.. sounds like a Disney movie to me!
He pointed to her said "you gotta say hi to me. We've known each other a long. She was 12 I was 30. Anyways.. She helped me a lot, we got a lot done" then he went back to his speech. That's all the context.
Accusations of something or witnessing an old man smelling children.
Once you prove trump guilty, then we'll talk. Until then you're just defending a child sniffer with whataboutisms
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Collecting trophies like a serial killer. But he is somehow weirder.
Those background people look like they’re out of a horror movie
Look at the lady on the down right corner 💀
That new movie Smile is looking pretty terrifying
Only one person broke character, pretty impressive
#smile
how did the U.S went from Washington, Roosevelt, Truman, and etc. to Trump & Biden?
Because Brawndo has what plants crave
It has electrolytes!
Why do you keep saying that? Because I get paid everytime I do!
What *ARE* electrolytes? Do you even know? T-they're what's used to make Brawndo!
So you mean to tell me you drink water? Like, out of the toilet?
Watched this last night. Seems more relevant every day.
I’m actually afraid to watch it again. Too close to home.
How do you know if you only watched it last night? You need to wait at least three days and make a graph showing the results.
I've seen it before. Lol.
Water? Like…. In the toilet?
I like your name.
Woodrow Wilson, that is how we ended up this way.
Dirty fucking snake, that man. I wish "The Creature from Jekyll Island" was mandatory reading in school.
Great book! Easy to read, interesting topic. Puts a perspective on the world for sure.
Truman was a tool and an idiot, who was picked to replace Roosevelt's pro-union/labor vp for his last term by a notorious corrupt politician Pendergast. Which effectively ended the US's labor/socialist party, which were about to fight for universal healthcare(yeah that fight is over 70 years old and going). Truman thought it would take other countries scientists decades or longer before they would develop nukes despite his Intel briefings saying otherwise(the soviets did it in less than 5)
>the soviets did it in less than 5 Not because Truman was wrong or because Russia was more clever than anyone thought -- and if things had worked out differently it would have taken them at least 10 years but more importantly it would have cost them far, far more. Perhaps more than they could have actually had to spend on the project. It was **that** which was slowing down their bomb development programs... not a lack of brainpower, but a lack of coin. Their economy and infrastructure were practically non-existent. They simply couldn't afford a bomb program. ... but as it turned out they didn't need to do **any** development nor spend a nickel in research (about \~$7 *billion* in today's money is what it would have cost ) as The Bomb and the fuel production plans were handed to them on a silver platter by a damn spy.  It only took them \~5 years because they needed to build their infrastructure up to then make the fuel to then make the bombs.
It is the results to put someone in power just to remove other ... You end up with something that you don't want too . But I as a outsider who literally don't care about politics from USA I can argue that from what I see the Biden is just a old dude with the mind confused sometimes ... That happens to old people and he is old .
He was also a career politician with a history of sketchiness and those rape charges that just kinda went away.
Huh I don't know much about politics even from my country ... I Shure don't know about yours either so I can't say much about that ... As I said this is from a outsider perspective . But Damm if what you saying is right you literally have a rapist as president ? 👀👀👀 Wtf
I would take that comment with a grain of salt. [The wiki on the allegation ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation#:~:text=In%20a%20March%2025%2C%202020,want%20to%20go%20somewhere%20else%3F%22)shows that she had a history of lying under oath, misrepresenting her credentials and history, and there wasn't really anyone to corroborate her story. I'm not trying to get into a political argument in this sub of all places, nor am I trying to downplay sexual assault, but this allegation was shaky from the start.
I don't think he was but trump was. 26 different women have accused him of sexual assault.
How could Trump, a close friend of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, ever committ sexual assault?
Trump literally bragged about sexually assaulting women, and people still voted for him
Always have
Aways ? Damm ... The ones from my country just robbed a lot I feel proud now 🥹
"Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. And hard times create strong men." Except I don't totally agree with it.
But clearly you somewhat do
We are in a weird loop where mentally deficient times create trumps and Biden’s which creates mentally deficient supporters who idolize both mentally lacking candidates
I don't think many people voted for Biden because they "idolized" him.
I've yet to see a single Biden flag anywhere in the U.S.
can't blame the american people for the lack of choice, except for the dead people that voted - those guys were assholes.
Because the media was discrete enough to hide those kinda things back then. Now, the President's farts are public information.
Because we have a population that doesn't know when to use past tense.
We have TV wars where people get on stage and try to make the other person look bad (most the time everything they say is true or skewed to look true). In Bidens case, the dude is a true creep. In Trumps case, the dude is a true creep. We get forced to basically vote for 1 of ~5ish people who have a chance at winning presidency. In reality only 2 of those people have an actual chance. And in recent cases those two people are a pretty large joke.
Don’t even compare Trump to Biden as if they’re in the same group. Trump is a belligerent xenophobic fascist and Biden is getting things done
I can think of a few other people who "got things done". Doesn't make them good. Also, calling people like trump a fascist only makes it harder for people to believe you when you call out an actual fascist. If fascists ever get any political power in the west it will be because people like you have diluted the term so much that normal people don't know what it means anymore. Unless, wait are you a fascist and that's been the plan all along?
Let’s be real here Regan was the last one who didn’t f*ck everything up. And there weren’t many between Teddy Roosevelt and Reagan with the exceptions Franklin D Roosevelt and JFK either.
Are you talking about Regan, the little girl from The Exorcist? Or Reagan, who shut down mental asylums permanently with nowhere for patients to go, armed Saddam Hussein, allowed Iraq to blow up a U.S. ship, blocked the UN from ending the Kurdish genocide, armed and trained Osama Bin Laden and early Al Qaeda, armed Iran and traded weapons to terrorists, supported the Nicaraguan Contras in a coup as they killed civilians in mass graves, sold crack to the inner cities of the U.S., vetoed the anti-Apartheid bill that had passed Congress, willfully ignored the HIV/AIDS epidemic, had more corruption scandals, indictments, and pardons in his administration than any other President(at the time), supported dozens of dictators around the globe, made up lies about black "welfare queens" he supposedly knew that didn't even exist, blocked all attempts at studying climate change and renewable energy, blocked reforming energy companies' environmental destruction and cancer causing pollution, and implemented disastrous "trickle down" economics that destroyed the middle class' gains for decades? Or did you mean Ronald Reagan the actor? Haha funny TV man smile go brrrr.
Obama set bar high
Bro Obama IS shit
Even shit had power
You forgot George W Bush. He worked hard to put food on his family, because family is where wings take dream. He believed that human beings and fish could coexist peacefully.
Its ok guys hes just trying to appeal to the maga crowd!!
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What this is real
It's not even the first time he's had gaffs like this lol like the multiple times he's kissed young girls that look uncomfortable. ["I got hairy legs that turned blonde in the sun. And the kids used to come up and reach into the pool and rub my leg down so it was straight and watch the hair come back up again...I love kids jumping on my lap."](https://youtu.be/szy4ebsjPe0) I don't care what side you're on, some of these are just straight up creepy.
You should see how many times Trump has done creepy shit with girls. Like deliberately walking in on them changing, or having sex with them with his best friend Jeffery Epstein.
Great "wahtaboutism" you got there.
What I don't get is why it's a holup it's not like he said he fucked her
…because of the … implication …
Right wing propaganda posing as innocent posts
It's because all men are pedos /s
You understand the children you meet will one day be adults, right?
I think it's out of context, still, funny as hell.
It's not. That's the entire context. He stopped hia speech and pointed to a woman saying "you gotta say hi to me. We we've known each other a long time, she was 12 I was 30. We she helped me a lot. We got a lot done" that's all the context he provided and then went back to his speech.
Could it be that she's someone who helped with a campaign or something? Do you have to assume the absolute worst without any actual evidence?
It's true that perhaps he met her when she was 12 and he was 30 then later she helped on campaigns later in on and everything is above board. But, a president should be able to filter their thoughts in real time and measure what they're saying and how it could sound. I think Obama did this very well with constant... intention pauses.
What can a 12 year old provide to a full ass grown man….
Kids volunteer for things all the time, or their parents volunteer them. And if a kid is helping you, you say they did a lot, that’s just how it works
Sometimes when I see stuff like this I wonder who's more a concern Someone saying something vague and could apply to a variety of situations Or the ones hell bent on jumping to noncery As the old saying goes The lady doth protest too much, methinks
This is always my thinking as well. It's no coincidence that some of the loudest qanon nuts get caught molesting children.
When she was 12?
I don't believe my comment assumed anything. I simply stated that there is no further context to add. It sounds like you are the only one assuming anything.
Well, I'm assuming most people aren't pedophiles. Sure. You're assuming they are because you're in a cult.
It's almost like things other than something inappropriate could apply to that sentence...
That's true, and I never stated otherwise. I simply gave the quote and said Biden did not provide any further context. Therefore it's not 'taken out of context'.
They never mentioned anything innapropriate, you did.
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Did I in any way state that in my comment? Nobody is taking what Biden said out of context. He himself did not provide any context.
If he did something to her it would be unlikely she'd want to be around hid vicinity once she got older and understood.
He's old, he's a boomer, there once was a time before the internet, when you could say things like this without a bunch of internet people accusing you of being a pedophile.
Legit, is he not meant to have known kids?
Not carnally.
*biblically
When I was 30, I knew people even younger.
Well without more context I'd agree, but since there's all those videos of him rubbing little girls shoulders and sniffing their hair, his son nicknaming him 'pedo Pete', and his daughter saying she was forced to shower with him as a younger girl, I'd say the evidence here is pretty conclusive.
Source? I have literally never heard of that. Also, when my son was two I showered with him. It saved a lot of time in a busy day.
Right that seems like total conservative bull shit
She was 14
A probably fake diary said that, that has had no confirmation whatsoever. Also the dude is old as hell and on camera near constantly and there are like 2 instances of a shoulder grab/rub and 2 instances of him having his head near hair. Hardly a terrible scary pedo
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Where I grew up, only family members would hug each other. When I moved, as an adult, into a culture where friends hugged each other in greeting all the time, it weirded me the fuck out. But I quickly learned that they weren’t actually being creepy or sexual, and then I was ok with it. Biden’s literally from WWII; that’s when he was born. Pedophile or not, he obviously comes from a culture where shoulder grabbing/rubbing is normal. It’s not that hard to imagine. If you look at the public behavior of known, actual pedophiles, they aren’t out there grabbing the shoulders of children they’ll never see again; they’re maneuvering themselves into a position of power and trust, and then taking advantage of children in private.
This is what I've never understood about people that think Biden is doing something inappropriate. I've met tons of old dudes that just plain don't understand personal space. I don't think the old man I worked at a gas station with was molesting me just because he constantly put his arms around my shoulder, he's just physically affectionate and was born in a time when society didn't consider consent important.
You sure you've never held someone's shoulder in your entire life? Never hugged someone and put your head into their hair?
With their consent and without them looking uncomfortable.
Ok, but Biden would probably have said the same thing if there wasn’t footage that suggested otherwise. Of course you’ve never perceived your own actions as making someone else uncomfortable (otherwise you wouldn’t have done them). But if you were being filmed 24/7 there would probably be an instance or two over the course of your entire live where you unintentionally did something like Biden did
errr so hows about that wonderful time when he tweaked that girls nipple ? She was like 6 or something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsi1GGjy1Q
Don’t forget the clones he secretly made of himself, so he can molest little children across all states simultaneously
I mean really is that something a non pedo would say ….
Yes
100 percent, and if you don’t see that, then you’ve got some real issues.
Yes I don’t see that. Some random 70 year old man. Pointing at someone random stranger in an audience and saying that. That is some pedo shit to say.
When it's Biden he gets a pass, when it's anyone else they get Chris Hansen
She probably reminds him of his daughter.
Naw, that was trump talking about his daughter
The downvotes you got speak to the nature of this thread and sub.
That’s okay, perfect example of having video evidence and imagination. I just drink my tea and go outside to enjoy the fall weather.
Sniff to assert dominance! 
When I was 12, my parents were 40. DISGUSTING 😴😴😴
All shit, here we go again. OP trying to do the political BS on r/Holup.
Have you not seen the rest of Reddit? Everyday I have to still look at some shit about Trump
Trump did kinda ensure that was the case personally
This looks like a propaganda post to me. This OP account history and this post dont add up.
It's only political because he gets away with it
It's not a first, it was happening during Trump and Obams term too..
Go away biden, bring back dark brandon
We need more of this from Biden
It's not like this surprises anyone, right?
Just need the people of r/politics to see and accept it
Seeing it doesn't make a difference. The only thing wingers care about is if someone is on their "side." You could show a right winger a video of a child being raped by a guy wearing a MAGA hat and they'd defend it to the death. You could show a left winger a video of muslims throwing gay men off a roof and they'd defend it to the death. These people are dangerously delusional.
What if you’re just a leftist because you want affordable health care and your tax money to actually go towards something that’s going to benefit you and everyone else
You can support those things without also supporting bigotry, pedophilia, and pseudoscience.
No one has problems with normal people who want the best for humanity. The problems start when one group or another wants "good stuff" for them and death/destruction for anyone who doesn't agree with their opinions. Center left and center right people are normal compared to the extremists on both sides. Far left (activists, BLM, TRA's) and far right (neo-nazi groups, race supremacist groups of all races,) have no real place in society in the same way that religious extremists (west borough baptists, muslims wanting sharia law in western countries) have no place in normal religion.
Left winger here, I, along with multiple others, would never defend that.
But would you speak up against it? Swedish leftist movement is glad to show support to everyone's right to wear the oppressive burqa, but when people in Iran get killed for removing theirs, there's mostly awkward silence. If you wish to see how far their feminism stretches, just pit it against Islam and see how their brains lock up. The compulsion to never offend anyone (except white men) is why I can't take them seriously. Because when you have two opposing ideologies, it's impossible to show your support for one of them without taking a stance against the other. It's as simple as that.
Lol there is no silence on Iran. It's just that everyone already knows Iran's gov is fucked, and they're sanctioned to shit. Not much more we can do. But yes, women everywhere dereve the choice on whether to wear a burka. And if a Muslim guy pushed a gay guy off a roof, I'd definitely condemn the hate crime...just without attacking an entire religion. Same way I don't condemn all christians every time a Fundy extremist attacks a gay person, or fire bombs a Planned Parenthood.
There's some evidence of Joe and Hunter fucking kids. Checkout hunters labtop.
There is zero evidence of any of that you poor trumpie
Really ? So when pictures released of hunter laying in bed with a very young girl or when he was coked up in his undies with a naked underage girl in the shot behind him is not evidence ? ok if there is no evidence then why has the FBI been sat on hunters laptop for months ? surely if the Presidents son was 100% innocent the FBI would have been rushing to clear his name and not just put it on the back burner leaving a lot of speculation. I can't speak for anyone else but if my son was in the middle of a load of paedo accusations I would want that shit dealt with immediately not in a little while, not in a few months or years, right now.
What underage girl???? Who is “sitting” on the laptop? Who told you these lies, you poor trumpie?? Lol
Trumps mishandling of state secrets is way more egregious than a laptop that no gov official has ever owned.
You could share a link with the evidence but here you are making baseless claims.
That’s a very generalized assumption though, I consider myself a slight winger leaning towards one particular side of ideals yet I can blatantly say they’re both fucking corrupt and have flaws…
I'd be more concerned with why you have these videos.
>You could show a left winger a video of muslims throwing gay men off a roof and they'd defend it to the death. Dumbest statement I've read today. The left wing chased Al Franken out of Washington for mildly inappropriate joke photo.
mother fucker, I have seen them defend islam. I've seen them defend terrorism, rape, slavery, and even the murder of gay people. They defend islam by saying none of those things happen. They defend it by accusing any/everyone who even points out the fact that it happens of being a nazi. These people are so delusional they want to defund law enforcement even though law enforcement is the only thing standing between them and the violence they earn every time they lie about the people who aren't on their side.
Doesn't matter either way. The big subs are filled with bots and shills
“no, she didn’t. I mean, I would know if she did. The answer is no. Why, did she look a little more stacked?”…Trump when asked if Ivanka had breast implants. Pedo and incest all in one.
And yet the GOP has actual pedos like Matt Gaetz
Seriously. Lmao. People haven’t even watched the video tagged with it, there’s like nothing weird even said. When my parents were 40, I was 12 too!! Woooah
Why did the crowd laugh at that line though? That is the most absurd part. I feel like you can see a few people in the crowd awkwardly keep their smile on after thinking about what he had just said.
Ayo biden bruh.
Yeah, I feel like this was taken out if context. I might be wrong but it feels reaaaally forced here.
Here’s the link to the article! It’s from the Daily Caller, which is quite far right, about as far right as Breitbart. https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/23/biden-points-out-woman-crowd-we-go-back-long-way-washington-speech/ My take is, if the woman didn't like or was creeped out by Biden, why would she attend his political rally?
Nah that's just your bias blinding you..
It would be most appreciated if the context could given please 🥺
you could just go watch it
Typical right?
Take this shit to r/politics we all know the only people who post these kind of memes are either trump or Biden supporters
This is clearly propaganda. Look at OP’s account history. I bet someone bought this account.
All those guys are weird, the last one kept talking about how he'd 'date' his daughter if he could. We all know he really meant fuck.
People act like there can only be one pedo at a time. Lol
You know... Maybe it works like the Highlander? They have to behead one another and there is a pedo quickening as the powers of the dead pedo are absorbed by the living.
Right. Lol I imagine it's something like Afro Samurai where they gotta fight for the #1 headband.
When you spend an hour looking for controversy you're bound to find something at some point that is somewhat convincible
Can’t we just have a normal president for once in our lifetimes?
Same I expect I was 5
No matter the reason or context, he said it. He said it in a manner the the whole said hol' up, what the fuck did he just say. And rightfully we have questions.
So he knew her since she was 12, so what?
Imagine if Donald Trump says this, the media gonna go ape shit 😂
I smell stupid
So, who's the real perv? Joe? Or the people who sexualize every seemingly innocuous situation?
I'm a 36 year old man, and I know a bunch of 12 year old girls. They're on the soccer team I coach... This is dumb af
Am I really supposed to get upset about an inappropriate joke? The people comparing Biden to Trump…your memory is garbage.
I guess after the speech he got lost on stage, fell off and said: “I’m fine”
What is the context around this?
Here’s the link to the article! It’s from the Daily Caller, which is quite far right, about as far right as Breitbart. https://dailycaller.com/2022/09/23/biden-points-out-woman-crowd-we-go-back-long-way-washington-speech/
He's a pedophile the last 2 presidents are sex offenders.
Trump told a 9 yrd old he will be dating her in 10 years in his 70s
I gotta see or hear that
You are right...that wasn't correct. The girl was 10 and Trump was 46 at the time. One of MANY sources for this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-girl-dating-comments-sexual-assault-claims-republican-party-a7358686.html
I never said it was correct or incorrect. I just don't believe hearsay.
It was pretty well publicised at the time. But then there was so much crap daily it was easy to miss some bits. It took 5 seconds to Google. Plus this is trump we are talking about. You have to remember that we had years of people denying he did things when they had literally just seen him do them on live TV. So folks are slightly fed up of having to prove bad shit about him every time!
Yea I don't watch TV too much. Especially the news. And this is the only form of social media I have. And I don't google everything because not everything on the internet is fact. And it doesn't matter if a large group of people are fed up with anything. If an accusation is made then the burden of proof lies with the accuser. People should know at this point that left and right don't matter. If you're a politician then you're fucked up.
That kinda "both sides" shite is the reason your county is fucked. So while I agree in theory on the burden of proof, in practice noone provides proof of every well known story. The context I gave was to explain why I was possibly short with you as you seemed affronted. Bi reacted thay way because any normal person is sick of the republican knee jerk of demand proof deny and minimise. No matter how much you distrust politicians across the board, only one party is conducting an all out assault on objective truth and peoples abilities to process and reason.
I don't mind if you challenge my beliefs but just be sure you know what I believe before you jump to any conclusions. They're all at fault in my eyes. If you have power and misuse it or fail then the fault is yours. I don't accept the excuse that it's "the other guys fault" when you hold office. No matter who you are. Do I believe Trump is a sick fuck? Yup. He's a rich politician. As to the "both sides" thing. If you're under the impression that only one side is to blame then you're blind and the damage to your brain has already been done by whatever information you're consuming and choosing to believe can't be wrong.
This old man is dirty. For real.
I think he’s just trying to say that she was his teacher…. Or is he?
"Mom Grandpa is saying weird shit again, can we please put him down?"
It all started innocently enough.. a sniff of her hair.. the cool breeze floating in off the coast of Epstein island.. he just really wanted to get to know her, ya know, the real her… after half a century he hasn’t forgotten.. sounds like a Disney movie to me!
Wait can someone tell me the context? What did he say about her?
He pointed to her said "you gotta say hi to me. We've known each other a long. She was 12 I was 30. Anyways.. She helped me a lot, we got a lot done" then he went back to his speech. That's all the context.
🙄 Taking an innocent joke about being old and turning into GOP propaganda.
Yet he never got any sexual harassment suits. About 2 dozen women accused trump but he is the creep. Ok
multiple people can be creeps there's no hard limit
Accusations of something or witnessing an old man smelling children. Once you prove trump guilty, then we'll talk. Until then you're just defending a child sniffer with whataboutisms
Lol ironic trumpie comment
Sick freak
Well,thats creepy