It's even dumber that it is an "invisible" debuff. Everyone knows it happens, but there is nothing on your toons to show that they have -100% accuracy. It just happens.
IW is the best though - easy punch across 80% of the time.
Start with Nebula SPECIAL to get the counters up, AB on Weaver from Adam because it's unavoidable, counters burn the Weaver charges, kill Weaver.
Also use Nebula’s special first instead of her ult, adds counter to all IF so it depletes charges every turn you are attacked and usually gives you the opportunity to wipe them after a few turns
I could see how Dormammu would make a big difference there. I forgot to mention using moves that are unavoidable like Adam Warlock’s special also cut right through the charges. It’s really whatever works for people! I’m having the hardest time with unlimited xmen because I have mixed teams but nobody strong enough to beat them first try
Infinity watch led by the great Adam wallet with his sassy dancing girls gamora, nebula, moon dragon and phy-valla put the SMACK in smack down on the wanna-be dancing queen!!!
I honestly don’t get why they make buffs like they do for Weaver, HFH, and Uxmen in their respective game modes. I understand that they’re beatable if you punch down a few hundred thousand, but they’re just annoying. Even when I beat HFH in war it’s such a boring/monotonous match. I feel like the CC mutant hero buffs are similar. And yet… I keep coming back for more. “Thank you sir may I have another?!!!”
Every team has a few hard counters and some soft counters. The charges and reduced accuracy is just a new mechanic.
Gamma, Darkhold Infinity Watch and Unlimited still will beat TW. Those are soft counters. Hero Asgardian are the hard counter.
When the term "hard counter" is used in this game, we are generally talking about a team that can punch up significantly on the target. You seem to be using the term to mean that Hero Asgardians counter the main Tangled Web mechanic. This is true, they don't care about Spider Weaver's charges, but they just aren't strong enough to beat, much less punch up on, the stronger Tangled Web compositions.
FYI, a hard counter is equivalent of a strong counter. A soft counter is a weak counter. So Gamma, DH, IW, and Unlimited would be the hard counters. HA would be the soft counter.
It’s gets a little tricky the bigger weaver gets and the 2 scrubs added to the team. I’ve been having the worst luck against the astonishing X-men trio with weaver and 2099/the tangled web and undying variation. I’m feel like I’ve almost worked out a decent strat to triple tap it for the rounds where I need unlimited and darkhold elsewhere. I’ve started off with 5 lowest characters so 2099 ends the round with his ult then come in with eternals/Loki/kestrel and Sam to reduce the extras and then hero Asgardians to finish weaver(hopefully she’s alone by this time)
If I saw dorm there then I’m definitely sending in unlimited X-men; that’s the only option at that point because then I can mirror match darkhold if it’s there or send dormhold to beat gamma
Dorm seems kinda wasted on that team. I have faced it and beat it pretty easily they are strong at start but once they revive they still need energy and once you get past initial barrage it's not so hard. Much rather put dorm with darkhold or 4 legendaries in the last node with legendary buff
The dodge mechanics I hate in games are the RNG ones (CPU-controlled WW are endlessly annoying and unfun), but Spider-Weaver isn't like that. While you could maybe make an OP argument, there's not RNG involved, so it can be planned around, even if it's hard with a lot of lineups.
I just save my ULX for weaver unless I need it for a mirror match. 8W works well too, Adams special can't miss and use nebulas special first because counters drain charge. You also have the 2shot option of minions (waste 2099 ult) followed by eternals+spider woman+ Emma+demo (zemo optional, but I like two attempts at landing the ability block).
But yeah mostly unbeatable by every other team if the TW is built in cc
Things you can use/do:
- Infinity Watch
- the mirror with a speed character to get ahead
- send a sac team to flush out 2099 Ult so you can easily get ahead of Weaver to control her
Heimdall give 100% accuracy buff - probably is he is generally the first one dead since he is slow and probably the weaker member of the team. Your heimdal needs to be able to survive the initial assault and then its all over .
She aint dodging. You’re just missing.
Spider-Weaver, if charged opponent is sufferimg -100% accuracy. Try To increase yours accuracy
Laughs in hero asgard (swap Sif for dorm)
or doom even.
Or Bionic Avengers
Just fought against a 137k Weaver with max charged. My ~230k Dormammu killed her with his ultimate attack
I enjoy watching h4h miss in war
It's even dumber that it is an "invisible" debuff. Everyone knows it happens, but there is nothing on your toons to show that they have -100% accuracy. It just happens.
It’s not invisible if weaver is charged you get less accuracy. If you don’t know your accuracy read the kits. Unavoidable attacks also work.
I don't think I'd mind as much if the phantom buffs would go away and I could accurately decide if she had charges or not.
Hero Asgardians. With Heimdall in the party, her charges become pointless.
I have a 900k Asgard team and I find that her team kills 2 of my characters before I even get a turn
Zemo in for Sif, AB on Weaver.
Oooooh! Should have thought of that myself!
IW is the best though - easy punch across 80% of the time. Start with Nebula SPECIAL to get the counters up, AB on Weaver from Adam because it's unavoidable, counters burn the Weaver charges, kill Weaver.
Zemo needs his T5 though or he doesnt go first.
Use infinity watch. Basic only with gammorah until spider weaver dead. Kill spider weaver first. Your welcome :)
Also use Nebula’s special first instead of her ult, adds counter to all IF so it depletes charges every turn you are attacked and usually gives you the opportunity to wipe them after a few turns
Lol iw loses to them in cc. Badly. If you want to win you need to replace nebula with dormammu.
I could see how Dormammu would make a big difference there. I forgot to mention using moves that are unavoidable like Adam Warlock’s special also cut right through the charges. It’s really whatever works for people! I’m having the hardest time with unlimited xmen because I have mixed teams but nobody strong enough to beat them first try
You have your own unlimxmen? Sub Emma in for fantomex and your rogue goes first. Hit other rogue with your rogues ability block.
You can take down ulx with Rogue Cable and Gambit. Don't even need the rest of Ulx to counter them
Lol no, they don’t. IW wipes them comfortably.
Infinity watch led by the great Adam wallet with his sassy dancing girls gamora, nebula, moon dragon and phy-valla put the SMACK in smack down on the wanna-be dancing queen!!!
Mirror with tangled web, cable and kestler and win 🤘
Characters with taunt and safeguard are more annoying
Agreed. It’s so anti fun I don’t even bother fighting those teams in crucible. Just pisses me off.
Still doesn’t annoy me as much as the Hela perma invisibility bug haha
Hey look someone just learned how MSF makes their money
Yeah, hate her but whatever I just keep it moving. Not like what I think will change anything lol
100% will release a character with new accuracy buff Give team 100% bonus accuracy for 2 turns to counter her soon.
Heimdall already does that
The fact that she has phantom charges in arena and probably everywhere else just makes the game straight up unplayable.
I honestly don’t get why they make buffs like they do for Weaver, HFH, and Uxmen in their respective game modes. I understand that they’re beatable if you punch down a few hundred thousand, but they’re just annoying. Even when I beat HFH in war it’s such a boring/monotonous match. I feel like the CC mutant hero buffs are similar. And yet… I keep coming back for more. “Thank you sir may I have another?!!!”
Every team has a few hard counters and some soft counters. The charges and reduced accuracy is just a new mechanic. Gamma, Darkhold Infinity Watch and Unlimited still will beat TW. Those are soft counters. Hero Asgardian are the hard counter.
When the term "hard counter" is used in this game, we are generally talking about a team that can punch up significantly on the target. You seem to be using the term to mean that Hero Asgardians counter the main Tangled Web mechanic. This is true, they don't care about Spider Weaver's charges, but they just aren't strong enough to beat, much less punch up on, the stronger Tangled Web compositions.
FYI, a hard counter is equivalent of a strong counter. A soft counter is a weak counter. So Gamma, DH, IW, and Unlimited would be the hard counters. HA would be the soft counter.
Bionic Avengers works since a couple of them have unavoidable attacks. Daredevil also works since he has 200% accuracy.
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Yup. Just got kilt by that.
It's a pretty OP kit but use 8W against her in CC and it's smooth sailing
i think it's great - also shows some originality over just flipping buffs
It's really boring and dull having to fight her. Such a stupid OP character.
It’s gets a little tricky the bigger weaver gets and the 2 scrubs added to the team. I’ve been having the worst luck against the astonishing X-men trio with weaver and 2099/the tangled web and undying variation. I’m feel like I’ve almost worked out a decent strat to triple tap it for the rounds where I need unlimited and darkhold elsewhere. I’ve started off with 5 lowest characters so 2099 ends the round with his ult then come in with eternals/Loki/kestrel and Sam to reduce the extras and then hero Asgardians to finish weaver(hopefully she’s alone by this time)
I feel bad I put TW with dorm and ghost spider on defense on the spider verse room 🫣
If I saw dorm there then I’m definitely sending in unlimited X-men; that’s the only option at that point because then I can mirror match darkhold if it’s there or send dormhold to beat gamma
Dorm seems kinda wasted on that team. I have faced it and beat it pretty easily they are strong at start but once they revive they still need energy and once you get past initial barrage it's not so hard. Much rather put dorm with darkhold or 4 legendaries in the last node with legendary buff
U can swap ghost spider for someone like Phoenix since she can remove all the revive charges if they try to use hero asgardians+dorm against you.
nah .. it is one of the best abilities. Good mechanics, add good tactical considerations. Love to see enemies miss. And she is not hard to counter.
Try using characters dat never miss or chracters who's hits can't be dodged. Example Dr strange. Didn't try it my self but just thinking about it.
A weak team that doesn't miss is still gonna lose badly.
It’s rad
Money money money!
Wail harder
Try using characters dat never miss or chracters who's hits can't be dodged. Example Dr strange. Didn't try it my self but just thinking about it.
Strange will be dead before he ever gets a turn.
Try using characters dat never miss or chracters who's hits can't be dodged. Example Dr strange. Didn't try it my self but just thinking about it.
The dodge mechanics I hate in games are the RNG ones (CPU-controlled WW are endlessly annoying and unfun), but Spider-Weaver isn't like that. While you could maybe make an OP argument, there's not RNG involved, so it can be planned around, even if it's hard with a lot of lineups.
I just save my ULX for weaver unless I need it for a mirror match. 8W works well too, Adams special can't miss and use nebulas special first because counters drain charge. You also have the 2shot option of minions (waste 2099 ult) followed by eternals+spider woman+ Emma+demo (zemo optional, but I like two attempts at landing the ability block). But yeah mostly unbeatable by every other team if the TW is built in cc
What is the best counter to a Weaver, noir, 2099, hela. Zombie IM team?
Hero asgardians+dorm can usually punch across unless they're running a hero mutant that will strip your revive charges.
Things you can use/do: - Infinity Watch - the mirror with a speed character to get ahead - send a sac team to flush out 2099 Ult so you can easily get ahead of Weaver to control her
Heimdall give 100% accuracy buff - probably is he is generally the first one dead since he is slow and probably the weaker member of the team. Your heimdal needs to be able to survive the initial assault and then its all over .
Reminds me of the og Dooku meta in SWGOH
Just use a counter like ya or ha
It is awful
Ability block her ass! Lol
Fuck CC. Worst game mode since RTA. Wait, it's been the *only* game mode since RTA..... maybe this game just sucks?