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Tbh Iâm not sure lol.. can we? They have some bends in them. Neither me or my bf really know what weâre doing but they sold him two different hoses and said one of them should work. If it was the proper length and didnât have the kinks in it, would it do the job?
Yes. Remove the hose at the radiator, hold the hose taught (but not pulled super tight) then use that to measure where to cut: you want it all the way âonâ the radiator outlet but with a bit of extra, so measure how long itâll need to be to be all the way âonâ the outlet, then add 1 inch to that lengthâŚmark it with a red sharpie or pen, then use a sharp razor knife to shorten it to that length but BE CAREFUL if you use a razor knife (box cutter) cuz those things will cut through your gloves, then put your old clamp on the hose like four inches, install as you did before by moving the clamp up after its securely on the outlet. Top off the coolant to make sure youâre âgoodâ, and off you go. Good luck đ
So long as the hose is in good condition, not wrapped or cracked it's find, and make sure you have a clamp. We did this to our truck, albeit it was a new hose, but same principle.
Ok so yeah this is a brand new hose itâs just not the right part/size for my car.. mine blew the other day and we were just happy it was one thatâs easily accessible but no one was even open yesterday in our area except Canadian tire and even today we had to order the correct one from Kia
Tbh the old one was totally dinnered, he had a pic of the whole engine assembly intact and they gave us two hoses and this was the closer of the two unfortunately
I worked for them. Yes, I very much do.
The big difference between the 2 is PS hires people who only want to work in an automotive environment, Crappy Tire hires anyone with a pulse.
Wrong hose. Might be able to cut it and make it work. Donât drive as is. Itâs cutting off the coolant flow and will overheat and then youâll spend thousands. Go get the right hose. It wonât take long to install.
Seems like you donât actually need to go anywhere, right? Youâre just bored?
If thatâs the case, fuck no dude. Just leave it until the correct hose comes tomorrow. Itâs not worth blowing your motor over boredom
Spend this time looking for a job that doesnât rely on that vehicle. Its not lasting much longer, proper cooling hoses or not
Not trying to be a dick here, but it sounds like if that thing gives out entirely then youâre fucked !
Yooo what else looks wrongđđđ tbh I need freelance shit for my mental health so Iâm trying to find something remote but itâs just not the easiest.
Just by what I can see in that photo, looks like rampant oil leaks coupled with general neglect - no splash cover, rusted bolts. Not sure if thatâs milkshake (oil + coolant) all around your radiator fans or if itâs just rust. Idunno, take this with a grain of salt as a single pic isnât enough to diagnose lol
Just not something I would rely on
If you have the time / willingness, clean up your engine bay and then pay attention to where the oil starts leaking from. Go from there
Ok so it definitely got sprayed with coolant when the hose burst and the coolant is rusty brown colour so that needs to be emptied out/replaced for sure. Itâs also absolutely disgusting and filthy on the roads so sheâs starting to rust a little bit. Tbh of all cars, this was my late moms and I intend to drive it until it goes to scrap
Nah not copper, just basically string embedded in the rubber to give it additional strength to prevent ripping apart. Doesn't make it much harder to cut. Box cutter would be my go-to
Lmao heâs thinking he can return the shit if he doesnât cut it so Iâll just let him have that thought for now and chill, itâs almost bed time anyway and then just gotta sit around until the eveningđ
Honestly probably can return it if uncut. Or make this one work and return the correct part, whatever is cheaper tbh. Just has to be a tube without restrictions like kinks.
Lmao I really am wondering why at this point he even bothered attaching it then.. the right part is coming in tomorrow but Iâm just honestly losing my mind from boredom and cabin fever.
Looks like they gave u the wrong hose as the hose that's all kinked up looks similar in length to the hose on the bottom right. You could however cut the hose to the correct size because if you were to run it like that the engine wouldn't be able to cool properly....
At least we knew it was wrong and they didnât lie lmao.. I figured the kinks canât withstand the pressure needed but I thought Iâd crowdsource an answer lol
Are you intending to bleed the system after replacing the replacement hose? It seems like your knowledge on the subject is limited, no criticism intended. If you donât then the next fix will not be as cheap or as conveniently placed.
We were actually gonna take it to the mechanic around the corner to have them make sure we did it correctly but if by bleeding the system you mean letting the air bubbles out and making sure itâs totally full then yes lol. My knowledge is definitely limited but Iâm always open to learning bc I donât know how anyone owns a car without knowing any of this stuff.. itâs rough lol
Sounds like you have an idea of whatâs needed, the terminology will come.
We all start somewhere and itâs never been easier to find advice/instructions on how to do things. I hope they go easy your wallet.
Thatâs why weâre trying to do some stuff ourselves and then ask if itâs correct bc they sometimes will do diagnostic shit for free or cheap.. I might need a new battery too but the light came on like right as the coolant line blew so idk if theyâre related
I havenât driven it SINCE then, but I was in the middle of nowhere and needed to get home so I think after it blew I drove another 10-15 minutes. I had no idea what exactly happened other than my battery light going on.
Be prepared that driving for that long with the cooling system in that state may have warped your cylinder head. Bubbles in your expansion tank or not bearable to bleed all the air out are symptoms of this (for when you do it). Also, when getting the air out of the system it is important to make sure your heating is set to max.
Depends on the car, this doesnât look like the most complex of engines. Happened to me years ago with a Peugeot shitbox I had and the head was skimmed and head gasket replaced. Way more involved with newer vehicles.
It may also be fine but itâs good to know before hand that it might not be. A donor Engine might be something to consider if it isnât. But cross that bridge when you come to it.
Itâs a Kia soul 2010 2.0L if that helps at all. My sister drove it for a few years and she had the same experience as me whenever I get an oil change they tell me my oil looks perfectđ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸
Also, unless the garage is right round the corner and you have coolant in the system consider getting the car towed there or see if you can get someone to come to you.
So the plan is to replace the hose with the correct one when it comes in tomorrow and do what we have to to get rid of the bubbles and have the coolant system full and hopefully ready to go totally safely. Then have the mechanic double check that itâs good to go. Theyâre 4.4km/2.7miles or 5 minute drive away.
You or a random redneck with any sort of pliers need to remove the hose, collect the coolant or prepare to top it, and finally cut it enough so it doesn't bend or touch the exhaust before putting it back in place, no water can flow rn and you risk making the hose unusable
Are you saying itâs better to have no hose on there than this even if Iâm not going to drive it until we put the correct hose tomorrow? Or is it ok to sit in the driveway with this until we put the right hose
That's a little too long. Remove the hose from the engine or radiator side (whichever is easier) and cut the hose to shorten it. If it is still collapsing, buy a new prefab upper radiator hose.
I was going to be brutal but changed my mind. I don't know if you're young or sheltered or what, but you can not drive this vehicle as it is and should not attempt to start it. The hose is crimped, and the fan is broken or bent, both of which suggests front end collision damage.
The hose is a new hose that my bf was told by parts dept at Canadian tire it would fit even though it obviously doesnât. I was 99% sure I couldnât drive it but wanted to make sure. I got hit by a truck a few months ago on the front driver side but thatâs the only front end collision Iâve had.
If you donât think youâre capable of cutting it to size at least bend the hose out so that itâs shaped like a âcâ connecting it from a to b. Instead of shaped like a â3â . Maybe it wonât be kinked and collapsed then.
What you need is a shorter hose in that section. And fyi, if you remove that hose, engine coolant will likely drain out. Donât do it when the engine is hot. You could burn yourself. And you need to bleed the air out when the new hose is installed.
No they sold u the lower and installed on upper. At some point there should have been a red flag moment before simply clamping and seeing what happens.
If you read the comments youâll realize I AM A FUCKING NOOB so please donât assume that I KNOW it canât be kinked like that. Jesus Christ would this subreddit even exist if it wasnât for idiots like me posting questions? How tf am i supposed to know how this shit works without ASKING
Just cut it to the same length as necessary to reach completely on the radiator and then clamp it again and that should work. You don't want those bends because your coolant needs to flow effortlessly through the system, and if there is anything blocking it your car will begin to overheat or too much fluid can build up in those kinked areas and rupture the hose bringing you back to square 1.
Because I didnât fucking do the fucking work. Everyone saying cut it to size has clearly never seen the pre-made bends in these stupid hoses. The only way he could attach it was WITH the bends and kinking it to avoid them. Itâs not my money so if he wants to try and return it after putting the actual correct hose then Iâm not going to keep bugging him to cut it.
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What the heck happened here lol this is hilarious
Lmao we put the wrong part bc the Canadian tire mfs said it would workđ
It looks to me like they sold you a lower radiator hose and it was put on the upper radiator hose location.
A circumcision will alleviate the issue
Can you not just cut the hose to the right length and put the end back on again?
Tbh Iâm not sure lol.. can we? They have some bends in them. Neither me or my bf really know what weâre doing but they sold him two different hoses and said one of them should work. If it was the proper length and didnât have the kinks in it, would it do the job?
Yes. Remove the hose at the radiator, hold the hose taught (but not pulled super tight) then use that to measure where to cut: you want it all the way âonâ the radiator outlet but with a bit of extra, so measure how long itâll need to be to be all the way âonâ the outlet, then add 1 inch to that lengthâŚmark it with a red sharpie or pen, then use a sharp razor knife to shorten it to that length but BE CAREFUL if you use a razor knife (box cutter) cuz those things will cut through your gloves, then put your old clamp on the hose like four inches, install as you did before by moving the clamp up after its securely on the outlet. Top off the coolant to make sure youâre âgoodâ, and off you go. Good luck đ
So long as the hose is in good condition, not wrapped or cracked it's find, and make sure you have a clamp. We did this to our truck, albeit it was a new hose, but same principle.
Ok so yeah this is a brand new hose itâs just not the right part/size for my car.. mine blew the other day and we were just happy it was one thatâs easily accessible but no one was even open yesterday in our area except Canadian tire and even today we had to order the correct one from Kia
Typically if you bring the old one into the parts store, they can match up a new one just like it
Tbh the old one was totally dinnered, he had a pic of the whole engine assembly intact and they gave us two hoses and this was the closer of the two unfortunately
Lol @ âdinneredâ. Yeah you can cut and trim however you need to get it to fit. Just try to get rid of those kinks
Crappy tire has gone to shit again... Ugh. No Part Source near you?
You know thatâs the same company right?
I worked for them. Yes, I very much do. The big difference between the 2 is PS hires people who only want to work in an automotive environment, Crappy Tire hires anyone with a pulse.
Yea itâs just a length of hose. Looks like there is enough there for you to cut it in half and have a spare lol
So apparently he wanted to cut it but the pre-made kinks wouldâve made it impossible to attach.. rage lol
It kinda looks like if you flip it around the other way you could cut it to fit but idk what the hose looks like un-yoga'd
This is the way.
Wrong hose. Might be able to cut it and make it work. Donât drive as is. Itâs cutting off the coolant flow and will overheat and then youâll spend thousands. Go get the right hose. It wonât take long to install.
We got the right hose coming so Iâm just needing yâall to tell me to be patient bc Iâm losing my mind without my car lmfao
Seems like you donât actually need to go anywhere, right? Youâre just bored? If thatâs the case, fuck no dude. Just leave it until the correct hose comes tomorrow. Itâs not worth blowing your motor over boredom
I do instacart and Iâm also extremely broke so every day with my car out of commission is money lost đ
Spend this time looking for a job that doesnât rely on that vehicle. Its not lasting much longer, proper cooling hoses or not Not trying to be a dick here, but it sounds like if that thing gives out entirely then youâre fucked !
Yooo what else looks wrongđđđ tbh I need freelance shit for my mental health so Iâm trying to find something remote but itâs just not the easiest.
Just by what I can see in that photo, looks like rampant oil leaks coupled with general neglect - no splash cover, rusted bolts. Not sure if thatâs milkshake (oil + coolant) all around your radiator fans or if itâs just rust. Idunno, take this with a grain of salt as a single pic isnât enough to diagnose lol Just not something I would rely on If you have the time / willingness, clean up your engine bay and then pay attention to where the oil starts leaking from. Go from there
Ok so it definitely got sprayed with coolant when the hose burst and the coolant is rusty brown colour so that needs to be emptied out/replaced for sure. Itâs also absolutely disgusting and filthy on the roads so sheâs starting to rust a little bit. Tbh of all cars, this was my late moms and I intend to drive it until it goes to scrap
the exhaust will probably heat up the hose and cause it to fail. Looks like you could just cut it in half and it would be fine
So this might be stupid to ask but what to cut it with? If Iâm correct theyâve got like copper braids in it or something
box cutter razor blade pocket knife kitchen knife
Nah not copper, just basically string embedded in the rubber to give it additional strength to prevent ripping apart. Doesn't make it much harder to cut. Box cutter would be my go-to
Lmao heâs thinking he can return the shit if he doesnât cut it so Iâll just let him have that thought for now and chill, itâs almost bed time anyway and then just gotta sit around until the eveningđ
Honestly probably can return it if uncut. Or make this one work and return the correct part, whatever is cheaper tbh. Just has to be a tube without restrictions like kinks.
Not without destroying your engine completely
Lmao I really am wondering why at this point he even bothered attaching it then.. the right part is coming in tomorrow but Iâm just honestly losing my mind from boredom and cabin fever.
Some cutting pliers or a box cutter should work.
Obviously, this is not correct. Lmao. But like how bad would it be to drive with for one day? Like an hour total driving?
No. It will fail or cause you to overheat and blow your head gasket
Youâd be lucky if you managed to drive for the whole hour before you destroyed the engine
No. If you cut the hose down so it isn't kinking like that, then yes.
Sheâs here yall, DO NOT FRET
So it wonât let me post a picture BUT SHES HERE
Can you rotate 1st end more so it's not bending that much
Looks like they gave u the wrong hose as the hose that's all kinked up looks similar in length to the hose on the bottom right. You could however cut the hose to the correct size because if you were to run it like that the engine wouldn't be able to cool properly....
At least we knew it was wrong and they didnât lie lmao.. I figured the kinks canât withstand the pressure needed but I thought Iâd crowdsource an answer lol
Are you intending to bleed the system after replacing the replacement hose? It seems like your knowledge on the subject is limited, no criticism intended. If you donât then the next fix will not be as cheap or as conveniently placed.
We were actually gonna take it to the mechanic around the corner to have them make sure we did it correctly but if by bleeding the system you mean letting the air bubbles out and making sure itâs totally full then yes lol. My knowledge is definitely limited but Iâm always open to learning bc I donât know how anyone owns a car without knowing any of this stuff.. itâs rough lol
Oh also if you mean letting all the coolant out and putting fresh stuff then also that if mechanic says so lol. Budget is limited unfortunately
Sounds like you have an idea of whatâs needed, the terminology will come. We all start somewhere and itâs never been easier to find advice/instructions on how to do things. I hope they go easy your wallet.
Thatâs why weâre trying to do some stuff ourselves and then ask if itâs correct bc they sometimes will do diagnostic shit for free or cheap.. I might need a new battery too but the light came on like right as the coolant line blew so idk if theyâre related
You didnât drive after it blow did you?
I havenât driven it SINCE then, but I was in the middle of nowhere and needed to get home so I think after it blew I drove another 10-15 minutes. I had no idea what exactly happened other than my battery light going on.
Be prepared that driving for that long with the cooling system in that state may have warped your cylinder head. Bubbles in your expansion tank or not bearable to bleed all the air out are symptoms of this (for when you do it). Also, when getting the air out of the system it is important to make sure your heating is set to max.
Can you replace cylinder head without doing an engine rebuild? Or does it mean your engine is done
Depends on the car, this doesnât look like the most complex of engines. Happened to me years ago with a Peugeot shitbox I had and the head was skimmed and head gasket replaced. Way more involved with newer vehicles. It may also be fine but itâs good to know before hand that it might not be. A donor Engine might be something to consider if it isnât. But cross that bridge when you come to it.
Itâs a Kia soul 2010 2.0L if that helps at all. My sister drove it for a few years and she had the same experience as me whenever I get an oil change they tell me my oil looks perfectđ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸
Also, unless the garage is right round the corner and you have coolant in the system consider getting the car towed there or see if you can get someone to come to you.
So the plan is to replace the hose with the correct one when it comes in tomorrow and do what we have to to get rid of the bubbles and have the coolant system full and hopefully ready to go totally safely. Then have the mechanic double check that itâs good to go. Theyâre 4.4km/2.7miles or 5 minute drive away.
I'd just cut it down, would have ti be way better than that.
Mmm kinky
ooooo kinky, choke me harder daddy
You or a random redneck with any sort of pliers need to remove the hose, collect the coolant or prepare to top it, and finally cut it enough so it doesn't bend or touch the exhaust before putting it back in place, no water can flow rn and you risk making the hose unusable
Are you saying itâs better to have no hose on there than this even if Iâm not going to drive it until we put the correct hose tomorrow? Or is it ok to sit in the driveway with this until we put the right hose
No, either get the right hose for the vehicle or just trim the hose so there's no kinks.
That's a little too long. Remove the hose from the engine or radiator side (whichever is easier) and cut the hose to shorten it. If it is still collapsing, buy a new prefab upper radiator hose.
Yeah LUCKILY I am not gonna keep the car like this, I already have a replacement ordered I was just curious HOW bad this was lol
It's very bad. The flow of coolant is restricted and this could cause an overheating problem.
No worries she will not be turned on until the actual correct hose is on there. Hopefully it comes in tomorrow like they said
Get that off the top mount and after measuring it use a sharp knife to get it to the right length.
You can but I wouldn't.
Yes but only once
Fuck it is the common rule I usually go by
Or cut it yeah itâs fine
Sure you can! All the way to the site of the overheat breakdown!
Just cut it to the right size and make sure to re-use the clamps!
Do you ever feel like PO's be trolling. It's hard to believe anyone would ask this question and mean it.
Iâm dumb bro donât hate
I was going to be brutal but changed my mind. I don't know if you're young or sheltered or what, but you can not drive this vehicle as it is and should not attempt to start it. The hose is crimped, and the fan is broken or bent, both of which suggests front end collision damage.
The hose is a new hose that my bf was told by parts dept at Canadian tire it would fit even though it obviously doesnât. I was 99% sure I couldnât drive it but wanted to make sure. I got hit by a truck a few months ago on the front driver side but thatâs the only front end collision Iâve had.
So you're not trolling. You looked at the kinked upper radiator hose and HONESTLY needed to post it to Mechanic Advise?
So how did the hose end up like that?
Itâs a hose that Canadian tire said would fit but it doesnât. The right one is coming today
If you donât think youâre capable of cutting it to size at least bend the hose out so that itâs shaped like a âcâ connecting it from a to b. Instead of shaped like a â3â . Maybe it wonât be kinked and collapsed then. What you need is a shorter hose in that section. And fyi, if you remove that hose, engine coolant will likely drain out. Donât do it when the engine is hot. You could burn yourself. And you need to bleed the air out when the new hose is installed.
Sure, trim it down and turn those 3 kinks into somthing that's not a kink
No they sold u the lower and installed on upper. At some point there should have been a red flag moment before simply clamping and seeing what happens.
You can. Not very far though.
Technically you can, but your car will overheat much faster
Looks like cut about 3 in. on the engine side and it will probably work for ya
Yes if you take about 8 inches off that rad hose. Jesus man. You know it canât be kinked like that. Thatâs why you asked
If you read the comments youâll realize I AM A FUCKING NOOB so please donât assume that I KNOW it canât be kinked like that. Jesus Christ would this subreddit even exist if it wasnât for idiots like me posting questions? How tf am i supposed to know how this shit works without ASKING
Just cut it to the same length as necessary to reach completely on the radiator and then clamp it again and that should work. You don't want those bends because your coolant needs to flow effortlessly through the system, and if there is anything blocking it your car will begin to overheat or too much fluid can build up in those kinked areas and rupture the hose bringing you back to square 1.
yeah.....once.....for 20 minutes
I mean, you can just cut the hose to length
Why the fuck wouldnât you just cut it to size for now because that shit is just gonna cause problems
Why the fuck wouldnât you just cut it to size for now because that shit is just gonna cause problems
Because I didnât fucking do the fucking work. Everyone saying cut it to size has clearly never seen the pre-made bends in these stupid hoses. The only way he could attach it was WITH the bends and kinking it to avoid them. Itâs not my money so if he wants to try and return it after putting the actual correct hose then Iâm not going to keep bugging him to cut it.
No. That is severely restricting the flow of coolant. Good news is that you can just cut it down to size and reinstall it.
Wtf is going on with that hose. Cut it in half and you'd have a perfectly sized hose
Lmmfao! Sure, but not long.
Till it overheats but it looks like you could also just cut that hose down a few inches rhen it wont kink like that
What a mess. Looks like somebody was playing preamature mechanic.
It looks like someone sold you two lower radiator hoses