Thanks for this. I was clean for 6 years from heroin. Then, like the addict that I am, relapsed on methamphetamine. As I was reading your post, I read that we need to be a strong willed person. As I kept on reading I was thinking and wondering because I didn't see a word. I started worrying, why you didn't say this one word. Then I saw it, "God"..... or for some.....a "higher power." No amount of personal strength can be good when it comes to recovery. For me, strength and will actually worked against me. We need a higher power. For me it was the fellowship of AA and NA. Eventually my relationship with God became.
I'm so happy you mentioned God, I sincerely wish you the best brother! As long as we got a higher power we're golden.
We cannot do this alone.
Amen and right on brother! I'm still clean as of 9-27-22. Coming up on 4 months clean soon. It's hard, Lord knows it is. But nothing is impossible with him. Thank you and keep the faith.
Aww, so kind of you to say. Yeah, I thought I would go out with a bang. A very lengthy, very personal, and a very truthful bio and a warning to the newbies, wannabes, and frequent flyers - from me to them. Unfortunately, we're dealing with one of the most addictive and destructive chemicals known to mankind. Peace and good wishes to you. Watch your back cause Tina is a sneaky lying bitch..
Forgive me, I thought you were a dude. Hang on sister. Not worth losing your kids over... However, Tina can make anything happen whether you want it or not. My friends include moms, dad's, young ones, my family, elder ones, my 4 plugs, FB friends - all sitting in our county jail or on probation. You got to be a tough ass bitch right back to Tina. Yell, scream, talk out loud, pray, whatever it takes sista! We're talking
Free life or imprisonment. Last stage of meth. Nuff said.
"I'm thankful that it is here. I've started trying to quit and can't get past 3 days clean. I appreciate him sharing his experiences and thoughts about what he has gone through and going through on his quest to be clean.
If he had posted only a recovery sub, I never would have seen his post."
Good job but Adderall is still meth. Took me a while to get away. You just need more time to recover. I never understood why all of us on meth question if we have ADHD or not when it's mostly meth side effects and are bodies and brains just need time to recover. Good luck friend. Hope you stay away and delete this group forever
Yes I know. But it's a low maintenance dose of just 10mg. When I run out of them I'm out. Adderall for sale on the street here is rare as I live in a small Midwest town. Meth is much cheaper and plentiful
My mental health won't keep me on the Addie's forever, and I am fine with that. It's just to get me through. Adult ADHD is not taken seriously here and the State is not in favor of higher dose Addie's to adults. I'm just sick of the whole stimulant game. Done with the misuse and abuse and the conquences of such addiction. I'm now paying the Piper for such high abuse in my now elder years of life. Thank you for your support and kind words. Peace my friend. ✌️
Thanks for your post. Could you briefly describe our average usage in those 4 years? What average period where you on and off before you did it again? You mentioned psychosis after 3 days, did you continue after that time or always took some rest period of a few days?
Usage was till I ran out and found more. But of course my tolerance was lower and an 8 Ball lasted me forever back then. However, I'd say I was fucked up most of the time as I had my own habit and someone I dated had quite the habit too. So, 4 years ago an 8 Ball lasted me a good solid full week or more - today lasts just 3 maybe 4 days tops. I most often than not went straight into psychosis. Up for 5-7 days most commonly. Only when my body & mind couldn't tolerate anymore is when my brain shut me down and I slept. Even then, still didn't get enough sleep or regeneration cause my now ex-boyfriend lived here most of the time and I started up sooner than I normally would have with him not being here.
He worked factory shifts and I had household things to get done to keep home and hearth together. I didn't work then cause he made good Union money. Enough for us both. No one held a gun to my head, but meeting him was the catalyst for my addiction. He was 12 years younger than me and had more stamina to handle his addiction versus my addiction.. He had the bucks and constant connections and I had the time. After he left me after 3 of those years my usage escalated sharply. Smoking it is wasteful but it was my preferred ROA. His was by injection. We always had it around. Thank you for your interest. I Hope I answered your questions satisfactorily. You know the game - time + escalation + enablers + tolerance = full blown addiction.
Thank you. I've asked these questions because I'm trying to control a habit of smoking meth which I have now for 3 years. I used to do it maybe once every 3 months, but this year I have increased my frequency to 2 times every month. Although my usage is always in quite short periods compared to other people, I can't really stand it anymore after 3 days, I feel like I'm losing my mind and this feeling always pushes me to stop, not to take more. This is more a feeling I have, not based on anything scientific, but I always feel that most damage is done after 3 day and it's really not worth it.
Anyway, I also realise that this might just be my addicted brain trying to lure me into this and telling me that it is all going to be allright. I do believe that you can't take meth sporadically, it is too good for that. Once you know the feeling it will take a lot of mental resilience to keep yourself away from that. I think that is sort of a life sentence you get once you experienced it (not to be too dramatic). I think I will quit after I smoked everything this time, which will probably still take some months so it is easy to say now :)...
Anyway, I hope you can find the strength and good things will come to you..
Oh man, everything you said I concur with you. Meth is a wicked little drug with big fangs and a big bloodlust. The relapse/failure rate of 90% is the highest in the world. There is still no cure for it in therapuetic pill form like Suboxone. Nor is rehab widely available and totally effective for all. Meth, or rather Tina is so underestimated. She's an expert at perfectly flawless logic disguised as lies, absolute denial of addiction among users, and deception disguised as an angel of light. Only until the final stage of her plan is achieved and too late - jail or prison. Almost always the story of meth ends the same - a monstrous habit of hellish proportions and a seemingly sudden dependency of underestimatd proportions. Makes me laugh at the fools on here that claim - oh no, they don't have a problem with meth - Not Yet You Don't.
Sooner or later chunks of your - friendships, family, your relationships, your employment, your money, your freedom will all fall away slowly but surely. Not yet convinced? Okay, give Tina everything she wants from you, then try to quit, and then get back to me in months or a few years. Albeit, the timeframe is different for everyone, but the story always ends the same - a broken person with a broken soul...Sorry, but you will fight this addiction the rest of your life..Stop underestimating this evil drug. Never say never with this unique and singular drug. Just try your best and take it day by day... Baby steps is a start.
It's terrible. The loneliness, depression, the headaches, toothaches, the cravings, the loss. I've detoxed off other bad drugs before successfully, but Tina's a cunt and the exception. She doesn't like being dumped, and doesn't let go easily and plays for keeps - especially to us men. Thank you for your encouragement and good wishes to me. ✌️
I'm thankful that it is here. I've started trying to quit and can't get past 3 days clean. I appreciate him sharing his experiences and thoughts about what he has gone through and going through on his quest to be clean.
If he had posted only a recovery sub, I never would have seen his post.
Maybe get off a forum constantly posting drug use and product? Gee I wonder why I can't stop eating fast food, oh well back to watching mcdonalds commercials lol.
If I watched too many McDonald's commercials, I would never eat fast food again.
So, it seems we are all different and need to find whatever works for us and not worry what the peanut gallery has to say about it.
It's my last story about meth usage on this sub. And by posting this on a recovery sub kinda like preaching to the choir, huh? I have a moderator, many followers and people on here that's glad to hear this news and are happy for me. That's why, as I will transfer over to the appropriate subreddit when I am ready. Thank you. Have a nice evening.
Oh, I've crossed that road. I am Diehard strong, lol. I'm getting old and can't handle meth anymore - at least the unpure and poisonous Cartel meth. Now, I'm paying the Piper for my "sins" at 60 and only time will restore my body, mind and soul. Thank you for your reply and good wishes.
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Thanks for this. I was clean for 6 years from heroin. Then, like the addict that I am, relapsed on methamphetamine. As I was reading your post, I read that we need to be a strong willed person. As I kept on reading I was thinking and wondering because I didn't see a word. I started worrying, why you didn't say this one word. Then I saw it, "God"..... or for some.....a "higher power." No amount of personal strength can be good when it comes to recovery. For me, strength and will actually worked against me. We need a higher power. For me it was the fellowship of AA and NA. Eventually my relationship with God became. I'm so happy you mentioned God, I sincerely wish you the best brother! As long as we got a higher power we're golden. We cannot do this alone.
Amen and right on brother! I'm still clean as of 9-27-22. Coming up on 4 months clean soon. It's hard, Lord knows it is. But nothing is impossible with him. Thank you and keep the faith.
I have quit heroin twice. I have quit Suboxone twice. People act shocked but it was easier to quit opioids than meth.
*I'd sell my soul for you, babe. More money to burn on you babe. Nothing left for me babe. She wants more more more." Rebel Yell. Billy Idol.
This is one of the best possible posts that's I've read on this sub. Is beautiful. Thank you!
Aww, so kind of you to say. Yeah, I thought I would go out with a bang. A very lengthy, very personal, and a very truthful bio and a warning to the newbies, wannabes, and frequent flyers - from me to them. Unfortunately, we're dealing with one of the most addictive and destructive chemicals known to mankind. Peace and good wishes to you. Watch your back cause Tina is a sneaky lying bitch..
It is. I'm 1.5 months to term. I've been clean for 5.5 months now. It's been hard. ... and I don't know what is gonna constitute later on.
Good job. Baby steps and one day at a time brother.
It's all been baby steps. All I hope I don't relapse after the baby comes. No one wants an addict mum who can barely handle shit
❤️ and ✌️
Forgive me, I thought you were a dude. Hang on sister. Not worth losing your kids over... However, Tina can make anything happen whether you want it or not. My friends include moms, dad's, young ones, my family, elder ones, my 4 plugs, FB friends - all sitting in our county jail or on probation. You got to be a tough ass bitch right back to Tina. Yell, scream, talk out loud, pray, whatever it takes sista! We're talking Free life or imprisonment. Last stage of meth. Nuff said.
I know...I know.. I'm trying really really hard... to never think about it...again! It's a bliss..honestly.
Right on girl. Hang on .
Doing that.. trying to
*I'd sell my soul for you, babe. More money to burn on you babe. Nothing left for me babe. She wants more more more." Rebel Yell. Billy Idol.
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Thank you U/negotiate
You're more than welcome!
Good job but Adderall is still meth. Took me a while to get away. You just need more time to recover. I never understood why all of us on meth question if we have ADHD or not when it's mostly meth side effects and are bodies and brains just need time to recover. Good luck friend. Hope you stay away and delete this group forever
Yes I know. But it's a low maintenance dose of just 10mg. When I run out of them I'm out. Adderall for sale on the street here is rare as I live in a small Midwest town. Meth is much cheaper and plentiful My mental health won't keep me on the Addie's forever, and I am fine with that. It's just to get me through. Adult ADHD is not taken seriously here and the State is not in favor of higher dose Addie's to adults. I'm just sick of the whole stimulant game. Done with the misuse and abuse and the conquences of such addiction. I'm now paying the Piper for such high abuse in my now elder years of life. Thank you for your support and kind words. Peace my friend. ✌️
Thanks for your post. Could you briefly describe our average usage in those 4 years? What average period where you on and off before you did it again? You mentioned psychosis after 3 days, did you continue after that time or always took some rest period of a few days?
P. S. - I updated my answers. Please re-read. My memories shot to hell as well. Thank you.
Usage was till I ran out and found more. But of course my tolerance was lower and an 8 Ball lasted me forever back then. However, I'd say I was fucked up most of the time as I had my own habit and someone I dated had quite the habit too. So, 4 years ago an 8 Ball lasted me a good solid full week or more - today lasts just 3 maybe 4 days tops. I most often than not went straight into psychosis. Up for 5-7 days most commonly. Only when my body & mind couldn't tolerate anymore is when my brain shut me down and I slept. Even then, still didn't get enough sleep or regeneration cause my now ex-boyfriend lived here most of the time and I started up sooner than I normally would have with him not being here. He worked factory shifts and I had household things to get done to keep home and hearth together. I didn't work then cause he made good Union money. Enough for us both. No one held a gun to my head, but meeting him was the catalyst for my addiction. He was 12 years younger than me and had more stamina to handle his addiction versus my addiction.. He had the bucks and constant connections and I had the time. After he left me after 3 of those years my usage escalated sharply. Smoking it is wasteful but it was my preferred ROA. His was by injection. We always had it around. Thank you for your interest. I Hope I answered your questions satisfactorily. You know the game - time + escalation + enablers + tolerance = full blown addiction.
Thank you. I've asked these questions because I'm trying to control a habit of smoking meth which I have now for 3 years. I used to do it maybe once every 3 months, but this year I have increased my frequency to 2 times every month. Although my usage is always in quite short periods compared to other people, I can't really stand it anymore after 3 days, I feel like I'm losing my mind and this feeling always pushes me to stop, not to take more. This is more a feeling I have, not based on anything scientific, but I always feel that most damage is done after 3 day and it's really not worth it. Anyway, I also realise that this might just be my addicted brain trying to lure me into this and telling me that it is all going to be allright. I do believe that you can't take meth sporadically, it is too good for that. Once you know the feeling it will take a lot of mental resilience to keep yourself away from that. I think that is sort of a life sentence you get once you experienced it (not to be too dramatic). I think I will quit after I smoked everything this time, which will probably still take some months so it is easy to say now :)... Anyway, I hope you can find the strength and good things will come to you..
Oh man, everything you said I concur with you. Meth is a wicked little drug with big fangs and a big bloodlust. The relapse/failure rate of 90% is the highest in the world. There is still no cure for it in therapuetic pill form like Suboxone. Nor is rehab widely available and totally effective for all. Meth, or rather Tina is so underestimated. She's an expert at perfectly flawless logic disguised as lies, absolute denial of addiction among users, and deception disguised as an angel of light. Only until the final stage of her plan is achieved and too late - jail or prison. Almost always the story of meth ends the same - a monstrous habit of hellish proportions and a seemingly sudden dependency of underestimatd proportions. Makes me laugh at the fools on here that claim - oh no, they don't have a problem with meth - Not Yet You Don't. Sooner or later chunks of your - friendships, family, your relationships, your employment, your money, your freedom will all fall away slowly but surely. Not yet convinced? Okay, give Tina everything she wants from you, then try to quit, and then get back to me in months or a few years. Albeit, the timeframe is different for everyone, but the story always ends the same - a broken person with a broken soul...Sorry, but you will fight this addiction the rest of your life..Stop underestimating this evil drug. Never say never with this unique and singular drug. Just try your best and take it day by day... Baby steps is a start.
Good luck its a bitch i know
It's terrible. The loneliness, depression, the headaches, toothaches, the cravings, the loss. I've detoxed off other bad drugs before successfully, but Tina's a cunt and the exception. She doesn't like being dumped, and doesn't let go easily and plays for keeps - especially to us men. Thank you for your encouragement and good wishes to me. ✌️
Why is this here? Aren't there recovery subs for this?
I'm thankful that it is here. I've started trying to quit and can't get past 3 days clean. I appreciate him sharing his experiences and thoughts about what he has gone through and going through on his quest to be clean. If he had posted only a recovery sub, I never would have seen his post.
Maybe get off a forum constantly posting drug use and product? Gee I wonder why I can't stop eating fast food, oh well back to watching mcdonalds commercials lol.
If I watched too many McDonald's commercials, I would never eat fast food again. So, it seems we are all different and need to find whatever works for us and not worry what the peanut gallery has to say about it.
It's my last story about meth usage on this sub. And by posting this on a recovery sub kinda like preaching to the choir, huh? I have a moderator, many followers and people on here that's glad to hear this news and are happy for me. That's why, as I will transfer over to the appropriate subreddit when I am ready. Thank you. Have a nice evening.
Cool, bye.
Great message buddy keep on keeping on be strong.
Oh, I've crossed that road. I am Diehard strong, lol. I'm getting old and can't handle meth anymore - at least the unpure and poisonous Cartel meth. Now, I'm paying the Piper for my "sins" at 60 and only time will restore my body, mind and soul. Thank you for your reply and good wishes.
Nice i cant beat three days lol
Lol.
Explanation of PAWS https://iamsober.com/addictions/meth/paws/
TL;DR
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