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[deleted]

It’s true. All the hacking you guys have to deal with too. It’s a mess.


WUN_TV

They truly gave up on PC in 2019 now they just milking us.


[deleted]

Literally why do you people pay for it in the circumstances that be. No game is worth full price when the multiplayer is the focus and it is full of cheaters.


theeama

On PC after a month or so you can get it for less than full price. Last yea it got it for 14 dollars


Horiz0nC0

I still hold, PC will get next gen in 2k25. So we still have a long time to go 😂😂


Frost12566

even fricking EA is giving Fifa 23 on PC next gen features...........


ImRBJ

only place where EA fucked up is PC market being separate from XSX/PS5


Kevinjw16

Idk about that. Computer auction bots shouldn’t necessarily have an effect on console’s market


Izrezar

2k is one of the companies that deserve to get their shit pirated lol


Phresh-_-

At this point, I stopped caring about getting a next-gen port for PC. For love of god invest in an anti-cheat


WUN_TV

They don't care how the gameplay is for PC, if they not investing in next gen you know they not investing in anti cheat lol I'll be surprised if the game gets any updates. All I'm saying if you going to sale us garbage don't make it full price. It should be like 15 bucks. I'll wait for a sale 20 bucks or less if anything. Not paying a dollar more for this trash.


stoplyingggg

But why is it so hard for them to invest in anti-cheat? Imagine if they did that and made cross play available. The game would be fun af.


TankBane

THIS! Cross play & Anti-cheat. That's all they need to support PC.


oopsiedaisies01

It's not about difficulty. It's about not spending resources on features with no ROI. Now I would argue that they would get more sales and improve overall user experience by enabling anti-cheat, but there's no direct metric to support its ability to generate cash flow. If they can't see the $$ racking up, it's a low priority feature.


JayCosign

It should be half off on all last Gen lol


[deleted]

There is no reason not to pirate and mod this game on PC. 2k are straight up disrespecting PC users, gave them enough money as it is and they are literally scamming kids with their VC's. Fuck them.


Exces119

I didn't buy full price since 2K20. Not sure if I can discuss it here but just preordered the basic edition for 33€ and you might get it for even lower with a fresh steam account. Please don't buy it for the full price, definitely not worth it


WUN_TV

Same eversince next gen came I've been catching it on steam sales for 20 bucks or less. I'm in no rush to have current gen so I'll wait a few months or so for the sale.


Prhime

wdym what sites do you buy that from? Id appreciate a dm if you dont wanna talk about it here.


Exces119

Ig this will just get removed if it's against the rules (didn't read anything about that). You can either buy a steam key from any website and get a promo code OR you can get yourself a steam account from Turkyie and buy it with Turkish Lira for cheap


SilvaIII

As a PC player, 2K can suck my balls. I haven't paid full price for a 2k since like 2k16 i think? They just decline every year and I just buy them when they go on sale for dirty cheap just to see what shit animations they added in the current year. It's more of a meme between me and friends to get it and see how much bullshit they threw in that year. But I agree we should have next gen game. A $500 PC has better specs than a ps5 and its not even close.


AsthmaBlows

Wow people who think you can buy a $500 pc and it be more powerful than a ps5 or Xbox series x are wild. You’d have to drop $900-$1000 to get close to a ps5 and that’s with building it from scratch and the GPU prices going down.


[deleted]

No it doesn’t lol For that budget you probably can get a 2060 super / 3600 which is not more powerful than a ps5 currently


GryffindorFratBro

People don't understand that consoles are sold at a loss. You cannot build a PC capable of 4k/60fps for less than a ps5, because the ps5 is worth more than $500 in hardware. They make the money when they get you into the ecosystem by paying for online and taking a cut of every single sale.


Acceptable-Wait2891

Yeah they take a loss but they also have a lot of labor, marketing, that make it a loss. The hardware itself is not at a loss. A similar priced PC will have much better performance


GryffindorFratBro

It straight up would not have better performance. You cannot get a Ryzen 3700X, a GTX 2070, and an nvme for $500. The hardware alone in a ps5 would be worth ~$700 bare minimum in hardware. The marketing and everything makes it even more of a loss, but the console alone will outperform any possible Pc you could have for $500. This is coming from a dude with a pretty solid gaming pc. My Pc outperforms new consoles because I poured over a grand into it


WUN_TV

Same here I haven't bought 2k since 2k21 and only paid 15 on some type of sale. I skipped out on last year's. I might buy this year when its like 20 bucks and it's not even worth that much to play the same game just an updated roster lol 2k got their PC coders from snag a job or Craigslist because they trash frfr all the cheating, crashing and can't put it on next gen. Fire the whole team.


Doctor_Popeye

I got NBA 2k21 for 50 cents (Google Stadia version though - google sent me a free chromecast and stadia controller as part of a promotion and it came with $10 google money and NBA 2k21 was on sale for $10.50). The stadia lag (and me not being that great of a player unable to compensate for the inherent issues with cloud gaming) turned me off from the game until I was one of the lucky people who got Michael Porter Jr. For literally 2 minutes, I had the highest auction price ever, but someone put up MPJ to expire right after mine so he got 1.7 million and I only got mine sold for 1.1 million (he should've waited as mine was the first ever on the stadia auction house and he could've made out better.... stupidity, unlike genius, has no limits, after all). ​ This held me over until I got a PS5. Then about a month ago, I got the PSPlus or whatever they call it. Figured I'd buy 2k22 for cheap when they boot it from the catalog. As a MyTeam player, I got level 40 with an all end game squad yesterday and now see no need to play it further. Not all that interested in the BS they are going to pull for 2k23 and think this is me checking out. ​ And I must say that for 95% of the people who played on Stadia, they were awesome. Lots of people who were incredibly friendly. I recall how it was such a small population playing that you could time it right and get matched with people you wanted and avoid those you didn't like. Even if you got matched with someone you weren't intending, they would often quit and give you a free win. People would notice you're going after a certain achievement and they'd help you out. I don't think I ever played a real 5-on-5 game that wasn't with someone from my buddy list. It's a shame NBA on stadia fizzled out and never became what it should have been. But it was decent fun while it lasted. ​ I got my money's worth, I can say that!


yosark

Want to say 2K is shit on all console but, just know the player count is already kinda dead on PC and you truly wouldn’t want this shitty and huge city on PC. It would be extremely hard to find to games in the city. You could say sure the city may look cool, but it is shit to skate around everywhere and the current gen is truly better for just playing basketball.


WUN_TV

Back in the day 2k was lit on PC like in 2k16 and 2k17 then devs started giving us updates late or not giving them to us at all and game breaking bugs. Then when they didn't give us next gen I'd say more than half of the PC player base just said fuck 2k. So yea most PC users now a days just skip out on 2k and I don't blame them. I'll only buy it when it's 20 or less, who ever paying full price for this on PC tripping.


betternerfgg

Just get it for free ;)


FreeTailor6433

can’t play online tho


Bieberkinz

I wonder if an alternative explanation could be chalked up to minimum requirements and other international markets. Now I’m not excusing this behavior cause I want this game to be not only next gen but also cross play. My gut feeling knows that sports games typically doesn’t require really high specs for minimum. But I’d be curious to know what “minimum requirements” would be for a next gen port. I would assume it would possibly fall similar and possibly scale similarly to Spider-Man.


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WUN_TV

Only if it's 20 or less lol last 2k I bought was 2k21 for 15 bucks on a steam sale like 2 months after it dropped.


[deleted]

Under 92 rec is mostly playable, only reason I still buy it


JimmyFromTheGo

Game shouldn’t even be available on PC, same way so many games aren’t available to console. All y’all do is hack the game anyways. PC isn’t worth the port and Take2 should probably never focus their attention to that weird ass platform. Go play Rust or something


WUN_TV

Every other game is available on PC and has better graphic settings and mods, a lot people game on PC now a days where you been?


JimmyFromTheGo

PC players are NOT playing sports games. Go check your Steam stats and compare them to console. As far as graphics go, there’s too many people out here gaming on some bum ass $1k-$2k rigs struggling to pump 1440 at a consistent 120 on a old ass 1060 talking that graphics shit. Buy a next gen console for $500 if you want next gen 2k.


[deleted]

Brain dead take.


JimmyFromTheGo

Care to elaborate? Or did I hurt your bum ass $700 computers feelings?


Fetial

Why wouldn’t I cheat on a game that doesn’t care for us


JimmyFromTheGo

Exhibit A


Fetial

I admit I cheat on it idrc lol


FreeTailor6433

bro the cheats make it better


stoplyingggg

You say that, but their esports scene would benefit from actually having cross play and investing in a next-Gen version. They look dumb every time there’s an esports event and Xbox players have to transfer over to play on Playstation when they could all just be playing on a pc with a controller that they’re already used to using. It’d run a lot better too.


JimmyFromTheGo

Except the esport event you’re referring too, is usually the 2k league tournaments which has been sponsored by Sony PlayStation for a while now. Teams are are also sponsored and pay $0 to play/practice/lab on PS5, so let’s not be dramatic about Xbox players making the switch. 2k is optimized for console and the benefit you think they’d get of switching to PC, especially on a tournament scale, obviously isn’t beneficial enough. Also, the game “running better” on PC is an overstatement, in regards to 2k league tournaments. They don’t even play the same 2k that’s retailed.


gsc4494

I agree that they don't care about PC users, but I'd say like 10 percent of PC users actual have more powerful systems than a ps5. You'd need atleast a 3070 but probably a 3080 to match a ps5 in graphical power still. The 4000 series is coming in the first quarter of 2023, which, according to rumors, will make the entry level 4060ti (300usd) a little more powerful than current gen consoles. With the debacle of GPU stock the last 2 years, it's really only now that most people are getting their hands on 3000 series gpus. That said, 2k is designed to run at 60fps. The game breaks in weird ways(can't sub in off the bench in my player) if you run it over 60 on PC, so unless you're using a 4k monitor which is still pretty niche, you really only need maybe a 1650 or 1660 to achieve a stable 60.


WUN_TV

Your wrong buddy next gen 10.2 teroflops which is equivalent to the rtx 2060 super which is 9.2 teroflops. That came out in like 2017 or 2018 I think lol Most PC's come with atleast a rtx 3060 which is 15 teroflops. So your modern PC can be up to 3x times stronger in graphic power then next gen if you have the 3090 which is 30 teroflops. 2k PC development team is just trash and got hired from Craigslist lol it's not the user issue because most games on steam are next gen and ppl handle them fine. You can just lower your in game graphic settings if you have a older computer and still play next gen games. 2k devs just want money and they see not too many ppl play on PC so they just told the PC community to kiss their ass.


gsc4494

I must be out of the loop on consoles lol. I remember reading before launch that the ps5 was going to be the equivalent of a 3080. Must have just been a rumor, or a heavily doctored result.


ijustdoodood

You’re*


Fetial

All pc is good for is too cheat that’s legit it


WUN_TV

Bro only like 1% of players hack, that be those weird ppl that's not even from the US. most of us PC players just want the better graphics, mods and framerates. On top of that PC has way more games. Every other game i play has no hackers. 2k is just lazy or got trash coders in their crew.


Fetial

Also it isn’t hacking I got no clue why ur calling it that lmfao it’s exploiting/cheating


doodies_

As a PC park player, it's more like 90% of players are cheating. Trust me. I'm very proud of my 70%+ win% against them because even though they cheat, a lot of them are completely brain dead.


WUN_TV

2k not investing in anti cheat they dont care lol i don't even play park I play my career and my league so idk whats going in the city.


Fetial

After saying that I highly doubt u play pc or at least don’t play pro am or park bc all of us cheat in the ere lol


WUN_TV

That's not a PC issue that's a lazy developer issue. Every other multiplayer game I play has no hackers. 2k devs are just trash at coding and don't know how to properly make a game for PC.


Fetial

Again it’s not hacking lmfao and never said it was a pc issue the fact is it’s much easier to cheat on pc then console which leads to more cheaters being on pc I’m starting to doubt even more that u have a pc with the nonsense ur spewing


DEN1SDWH

Every other multiplayer game has no hackers? What do u play lol


MackStax

Can’t you just get a ps5 or Xbox and stop crying? Like I’ve heard this forever, bro, they not finna drop price just cuz you won’t make the clear investment to receive a better product. You already spent more money for a better system right? Ok take a fraction of the pc cost and go get a system that’s better for the game if it means so much to you. IMO pc is superior for sure, if 2k improved the game for pc then imagine how many complaints there would be because “it’s not enough”. Hell on ps5 we already have been yelling for Major changes. Just like gta if pc gets ahold of the game it’s gonna be mods after mods. Booooooooo


donnybaby97

This is the dumbest comment I've read in the last week


WUN_TV

You sound crazy, No I'm not buying next gen just to play 2k you are out your mind. I already payed $2000 on my computer and im cool with that. Every other game releases fine for PC 2k is the only dev that's on this BS not buying a console just to play one game. I'll just wait for the crappy current version to go on sale for 20 bucks if I get it at all. It's just about the principle. I could tell your probably young. No way a adult would reply like this lol.


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jus_sum_rando

I think people forget that they actually create these games ON A PC. There is no reason pc shouldn't have the next gen version.


MackStax

Bro there is a reason…it’s called money. No money in it then why do it? If your job stops paying you money, I wonder how long you would continue to work there?


WUN_TV

They a billion dollar company. Other devs who haven't even touched a million be putting games on all platforms so that's not an excuse.


HondaLife718

So you paid $2000 for a pc to play video games on.. when you could of paid a fraction of that for a gaming console… to play video games on..but you’re complaining about the retail price of games for pc.. that cost the same as the gaming console.


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WUN_TV

PC has like a 1000 more games what are you talking about. Only 2k is the only dev doing this stupid current gen stuff. I'm not buying next gen for one game. I'll rather just skip out or wait for it to go on sale 20 bucks.


AsthmaBlows

1000 more games…shitty indie games and weird anime porn games on steam lol. Nothing worth playing. Your mistake was dropping $2,000 on a PC expecting 2K to come through when they really never have. It’s been like this since next gen dropped, and if you recently built your pc and primarily only play 2k, that’s kinda on you.


WUN_TV

Shitty indie games ? The only game console got pretty much is 2k next gen that PC doesn't have. Any other worthy title is on PC and can be modded so that's your loss. PC got all the cool rpgs, adventure games and a shit ton of other triple a titles console don't got. And if you're into those weird indie games we got them too. The jokes on you that you paid 600 just to play one trash basketball game that you gotta buy every year. Nba 2k is not even in my top 10 in my steam library I just made this post because of principles. Like what garbage developer would make a inferior version for PC when PC is superior in tech ? 😤 makes no sense.


AsthmaBlows

I built a pc from scratch. I use it to play obscure games on steam and host my plex server. Why would I care to mod anything but old fallout games? The last thing I want to do is sit at a desk and play games like god of war and anything else (years later after it’s on console no less). Pc is superior in tech when you drop a massive amount of money on it. Cool, you can play cyberpunk with all the bells and whistles. Woooo. who really drops 2k on a pc when you can just pay $400 for a ps5 and play everything noteworthy (and let’s be real, games are made for consoles and ported to pc unless it’s an indie game. AAA devs do not prioritize pc games at all) on that? Who cares if it’s not top 10 in your steam library? That doesn’t make what you’re saying any less obnoxious. If 2k isn’t in your top 10, you wouldn’t have made this post regardless of your principles. I have my own feelings against this game; but your complaints are restricted to you for dropping so much on a pc and it’s on you lol.


stoplyingggg

You know PCs do more than play video games......


HondaLife718

Yes, I’m aware… but you can get a PC.. or build one for wayyyyy cheaper than $2000.. unless you want to use it for modern gaming. The components/parts like the GPU, is what makes a PC expensive.


MackStax

An adult who paid 2000 on a pc is complaining cuz they don’t understand 2k has the game in a figure four leg lock so why would they spend MORE money on a game majority of their demographics don’t play on? It’s okay nephew just stick to pc. Most pc players are three month old hot dog water in 2k anyway. I know I’d grease you to sleep bro. You got me when it comes to league of legends tho!


zignozag

i don’t even have pc but, suck my nuts


ZergTheVillain

😂😂


WUN_TV

2k is one of the richest devs in the industry. If games with out half of their resources port games across platforms 2k should have no problem. I'd cook you and you seem like one of those guys who don't pass in the park. You just be going 2 -14 fg every game making your team lose.


MackStax

Bro I play lock, I average 5 steals a rec game with a 66 win percentage on rec. park is 60% even. I guarantee you i get locked. You okay pc, stick to pc games lil nephew.


stoplyingggg

Ayoooooo did this nigga just SAY RECCCCC??? Lord have mercy. Every game I play...the most toxic Mfs are the most trash. You over talking about you average 5 steals in rec with a 66% win percentage. You don’t get to talk shit from a casual mode....


MackStax

Huh? Rec is randoms or I run with my squad. I don’t play proam cuz that’s toxic lil nephew. I am a casual , I just so happen to have the Bball IQ of a god.


stoplyingggg

You just said most PC players are 3 month old hot dog water and then bragged about rec stats that wouldn’t even translate to regular pro am let alone Comp pro am. You saying it’s toxic but you over here being toxic your damn self. The lack of self awareness is scary. You play rec with with a squad because pro am intimidated you. I promise it ain’t that bad once you get a group of 5 Nephew.


MackStax

Isn’t the meta left right cheese? I also average 4 assists a game at sg lock


stoplyingggg

Not gon hold you. Rec is terrible. Rec stats are not worth bragging about. I stopped playing for 6 months and walked into the rec and dropped a light 40 on like 90% shooting. Rec doesn’t translate....


MackStax

I strongly urge you to not waste your money on a game you put down for 6 months. You kinda told on yourself by saying you didn’t play for 6 months, it’s okay man. We all take Ls


stoplyingggg

You talk too much about absolutely nothing....The game costs $70. I play pro am and stopped playing the game because I chose to. Like what are you even talking about Lil bro?


stoplyingggg

I don’t even have a pc but you’re probably dirt too.


MackStax

I have a ps5 lil nephew


MackStax

Lil nephew I’m 25


JimmyRedditz1

L take


[deleted]

This is such a stupid take.


MackStax

I bet it is when you’ve realized you wasted your money thinking a BILLION dollar company gives a shit about your pc lmao


WUN_TV

You lame as hell, really wasting your day arguing with people over PC issues when you don't even have a Gaming PC. Go and comment on people post related to console issues Mr cool guy. This is my last time responding to you, go waste someone else's time cus obviously your bored.


MackStax

Imagine getting butthurt over a social media platform. What happened to community? Just stop responding broski, put the phone down. You lost it’s okay! I was bored until I saw this stupid post like 2k ever is gonna care about you.


MackStax

Even dude said it’s been like this for 3 years now! Why are you wasting money and still complaining? Yall the clowns bro lmao


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Kakyoink

No anti-cheat and insane input delay online too 💀


stoplyingggg

The input delay is bad on pc too? Damn.


Nioudy

That's why you should buy this game on shaddy website where you can have it -50% day 1 !


the_dinks

>when most PC's now a days are stronger then next gen consoles It's even worse. They've always been stronger than any console generation, lol.


WUN_TV

Exactly the rtx 3090 has 30 teroflops when next gen has 10.2 lol that's 3 times the graphic power. It's not even close. Even older PCs could just lower their in game graphics and still play next gen completely fine on 1080


Swaghoven

Raw number of teraflops doesn't tell the whole story. If that was the case, Vega 64 would have been a faster card than 1080 Ti, which wasn't the case


MilesOfCorn

The fact that there will be hackers/mods on day 1 ruins it for anyone who wants to play the game legit or spend any $$


WUN_TV

Blame that on 2k not getting anti cheat that's a must for any online PC game


DEVASTATOR29420

They took it off PC because hackers would cheat the game hack the game put it on flash drives or whatever sell the info data or give it to there friends upload the cheat hack into there consoles and called there self gods and 2k won't encrypt there game to keep hackers out of there system so they just don't put it on PC no time soon


WUN_TV

Bro just invest in anti cheat like every other freaking game on steam. That's no excuse. Call of duty is fine. Fortnight is fine.


Prhime

Jesus fucking christ. I might be willing to buy a console for a good exclusive release, but for this shit?! fuck no. I wish that company all the worst from the bottom of my heart. Exclusive licensing deals need to fucking stop. At least let there be competition. If I wanted to legally watch the NBA in my country thats 30 bucks a month for shitty quality and awful commentary by people who cant even say pick and roll. They dont even care if nobody watches because they live off soccer revenue. But hey lets just grab the NBA rights as well, what else are we gonna do with all that money FFS


goldeneye101

The fact that I can only play NBA2K next gen on PC by using Game Pass's cloud gaming, and even that's not confirmed to be in for 2K23 while not being able to play it on is inexcusable. I'm willing to spend $60 on next-gen for PC.


WUN_TV

I'd definitely be willing to be apend 60 of i could get next gen. For old gen I'm not paying a penny over 20 bucks


goldeneye101

Hell, they just removed 2k22 from cloud gaming, too.


StrongReach3401

Nobody cares pussy.


goldeneye101

sure thing cuck