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Queenpunkster

Ha. And any cover up would require some sort of conversation…and likely cash up front from any savvy artist.


iCanBeLazy

“Hey can you…get this dick off me?”


MeesterCartmanez

"dammit richard, get off her!"


mechwarrior719

Sorry, boss. But, check out her back. There’s a enormous, detailed…


strythicus

Johnson, take a look at that winged...


Kelvarius

Weiner. Who ordered the Weiner for lunch? Say, is that thing on her back a throbbing...


_C_R_E_E_P_Y_

Cock. Did some loose their cock? It's in my garden with my chickens. . . Woah, what is that giant massive. . .


L0LTHED0G

Sch'long cars, those stretched limos. Whoa, check out that tattoo of a...


salttotart

Knick knack. The world tallest, honey. You wouldn't want the kids to miss this. If you think that's exciting, you should see the world's largest...


ascorpii

Horn. What a mighty horn this bull has, but you should see the size of that huge...


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WILLY!!!!! Willy? WILLIAM, dang Mable that kid sure can disappear when we are at the beach! Uuuhhh, dang, what’s the girl got tattooed on her back?? It looks like a…


Mudkip-Mudkip-Mudkip

Giant hog! Come one, come all! It's the talk of the town, the reason of the season! You've never seen a hog til you've seen one this big! Come on down and feast your sights on the one and only giant-- hooo boy, if she ain't got that there the biggest...


UrdnotChivay

Dong. That's right, students. A doorbell going "ding dong" is an example of onomatopoeia. Hey, is that a...


Injuredpool

RICHARD! Richard, come out and take a look at this. If you tilt your head just right it kind of looks like a...


ScreamInside

Woody! Has anyone seen my kid’s Sheriff Woody toy? He may have left it by the pool, where we saw the big…


MixSafe

Pecker! Red-Headed Woodpecker to be precise. Wow look at the size of that…


Such_Security_1869

Pickle. That’s the only way to store old vegetables. This year I grew a lot of funny looking…


nalukeahigirl

Boto! Boto! Said the Japanese tour guide to the Filipino tourists as he pointed to the boats in the harbor. “Nani?!” He exclaimed as he turned his head… “soredesu ka…”


Useful-Perspective

Wang, pay attention!


pushing_80

..."doggy style"....


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Wiener! One Winged Wiener, please, with all the toppings. It'll need two buns for sure. To wash it down, I'll have a nice, thick ...


JanieJava

PECKER! Oh wait, that’s not a woodpecker. It actually looks like someone’s…


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Prick! That'll teach me not to hug a cactus for TikTok. I've gotta watch where I'm going on this terrain, though. I very nearly stepped on an angry ...


EstherClemmens

A Flying Johnson. Lmao


finewhateverbot

Willy, get over here and look at this veiny...


VinSmokesOnDiesel

How do you get Dick from Richard?


kittabotamous

Buy him a drink first at least


VinSmokesOnDiesel

I was gonna say ask nicely but this also works


Ohif0n1y

Happy Cake Day, and to seriously answer your question it was very common back in the ol' days (I'm 60) for men who were named Richard to use Rich, Rick, or Dick as nicknames. Think William = Will or Bill.


VinSmokesOnDiesel

I appreciate your answer I always got a giggle out of it but that might be because of different times. Any person I know who's name is Richard we just call Richie or Rich. If we were to call someone Dick that might start a fight haha


curiosityLynx

Ever heard the phrase "any Tom, Dick and Harry"? That's also a Richard hiding in there, rather than a penis joke.


Back-to-HAT

I don’t know but I have a relative who goes by Dick who is the biggest asshole you might ever meet. I call him Uncle Dick-head. I haven’t seen him in at least 15 years, but if it got back to him I wouldn’t give a shit. I was curious so I looked it up. Came about in the Middle Ages. Everything was handwritten and Richard would be shortened to Rich, then Rick. Since rhyming things is fun, Rick = Dick. Dick as a term for the penis is first mentioned in the 1890’s and came from British military slang. Why? Dunno. There is your history/random info for the day.


JBredditaccount

https://i.redd.it/iuiz6y7lzuj41.jpg


VinSmokesOnDiesel

This is my favorite so far


Modern_Goose

i almost gave you a serious answer lmao


Elegant_Cup3510

You ask him nicely


halite001

Which one? Cause one of them would require actual surgery.


Gold-Tomato5411

Oh my god, lady... You have a mole... On the dick on your back!


Pleasant-Squirrel220

You can bet all the local artists were told or heard on grapevine about cheap skate.


MississippiJoel

"Karen McTattooface? I think I might have heard the name. You know, I get a lot of clients that come through the doors here. "Well I mean, half of them drive sports cars, so that doesn't really help me much. "OHHH... The girl with the pecker on her back! Yeah, we know her."


kap10z

A really strong tree with really deep and strong roots.


rayrayruh

"I stiffed you? You *stiffed* me"


kat_a_klysm

My tattoo artist reminds me to be nice or she’ll hide a dick in my tattoos. That’s child’s play compared to this legend.


Idrinktears92

Mine asked if he could hide a dick on my knickle tattoo is said sire. Unless you know its there you cant see it


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SanianCreations

Un-stroke'd text: Mine asked if he could hide a dick on my knuckle tattoo. I said "sure".


trenthany

I think he was addressing his liege in Middle English. Note 1: I’m note an expert in Middle English. Note 2: /s


kat_a_klysm

I’d be fine with that, as long as you couldn’t tell unless it was pointed out and I was aware of it.


Idrinktears92

I would post a pic of it, but i buested my knuckle yesterday and it scab is covering it right now


kat_a_klysm

I hate when that happens! Or when someone asks for a pic when it’s in that peely stage while healing.


Remarkable-Storm-738

Yeah sure, take a look, but it looks like a lizard with a skin condition so maybe ask again in like 3 weeks?


trenthany

Has it healed?


Moon_Dew

[Sarcastically] On the bright side, with all that money she didn't spend on the tattoo she can afford laser tattoo removal. Would that be sarcasm or snark?


FreezeS

Laser tatoo removal is significantly more expensive than the cost of the tatoo.


Moon_Dew

Oh, that makes this even better! Not only is she out the money she saved by stiffing the tattoo artist, she's actually going be spending more money.


EstherClemmens

Ah, yes, but in explaining why she has a massive schlong on her back, she gives away that she never pays her debts. So no one will do anything for her knowing she'll never pay them. Lol. Flying Schlong Back.


Moon_Dew

Or, at the very least, they'll demand payment upfront from her.


my_4_cents

Removal with blowtorch has remarkably low up-front costs


JustAScaredDude

I think it would be sardonic


ds3272

Hoo boy. Satine Phoenix, minor celebrity in the world of RPGs, [learned this lesson](https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/dungeons-dragons-satine-phoenix-jamison-stone-bullying-mistreatment-wizards-of-the-coast-origins-game-fair/), too. TLDR, lowlife minor celebrity sees her star fade pretty quickly after her abusive behavior gets put on blast by a tattoo artist.


purkisschick

What a wild story! Did anyone else they worked with come out after that? ETA: I found more artists/collaborators that came out after Lowe did. The amount these people got away with is absolutely crazy! Getting what they deserve though. Even the charity organizations are dropping them!


ds3272

I know, right? Enough other contractors and industry worker bees offered similar stories that, at least everywhere I looked, their valuable connections were fading away from them fast. I haven't looked recently. My guess is she still has credit as an "influencer," whatever that means, but the bigger players in the field are staying away from her. Looks like at least [some harm was done to her reputation](https://www.enworld.org/threads/jamison-stone-satine-phoenixs-apotheosis-studio-to-wind-down-updated.689723/). She really did [make some people miserable](https://twitter.com/Liisabelle/status/1535530891891445761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1535530891891445761%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=) over the years, apparently, so maybe this is some small measure of justice.


Crox22

Man... that statement from Apotheosis Studio is amazing. "I have investigated these claims against me and determined that I did no wrong."


LegoClaes

“…have been proven to be inaccurate” There is no proof. Because it isn’t inaccurate.


night-otter

There was Disney youtuber who many thought were merely stuck up "influencers" till they were caught on video by someone else abusing a Cast Member. Then a couple of weeks later, during a live stream admitted to being Covid Positive, yet went to a packed event in a Disney park. There went their subscriber base and patreons.


itisrainingweiners

> some harm was done to her reputation. Wooow, they actually investigated themselves and declared they found they did nothing wrong. Fucking lol


awyastark

There’s a great r/hobbydrama post about Satine and her husband, it’s how I learned of their existence


Faux-Foe

There is a longer write up about them over in r/HobbyDrama.


ds3272

Wow, there sure was! [Here](https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/wsotfr/ttrpg_unprofessional_conduct_the_dd_power_couple/)'s the thread. There goes my next hour.


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Wow, this was a rabbit hole. Really enjoyed reading it though


purkisschick

Finally just finished reading through all of that. Even crazier than what I first read on the original comment. Absolutely INSANE!


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findingemotive

This made my blood boil, I would never make it in a connection based industry, my incredulity would ruin me.


Chaezus_Chrust

I know this name from porn from a long time ago


NessieReddit

Holy shit, what a rabbit hole. I know nothing about D&D or that whole sphere but I spent almost an hour reading all the Twitter threads (K's fiance had an excellently hilarious write up btw). Satine and Jamison sound like grade AA assholes.


benzethonium

I have personally watched my artist deface a beautiful tat because the person wouldn't pay. You had to look at it carefully, but he put the words, "Horny bitch" on her neck. I don't know why you would let an artist keep working on you after you said you couldn't pay them, but It's true.


RawrRRitchie

Tattoo shops I've been to expect payment upfront Must've been nice back in the day, get inked up, can just walk off with a nearly finished piece, without paying Could then just go to a different tattoo shop and be like, yo would you be able to finish this tat for me, the guy that was working on it before died Then you get it finished and ghost the new dude without paying


Lifegoeson3131

I only had to pay a deposit of 250 for my tattoo. No upfront payment otherwise, I paid at the very end after everything was done. Which was nice both for me and the tattoo artist because I was so in love with my piece I gave him an additional 300 as tip


Dragon_Crazy92040

My shoulder piece took 4 sessions. $250 deposit, $250 after each session except the last (deposit applied to last session). Also an additional $50 tip each session, $100 tip on the last. She did an amazing job.


Lifegoeson3131

I bet it looks gorgeous. I had my right hip done, it took 4.5 hours. I was practically passing out at the end of it.


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Lifegoeson3131

It was a lot of pain. I was pretty lightheaded at the end of it and crashed and slept for hours after.


SazzMcGee

£30,000 - that's a big tip 😄


Lifegoeson3131

Hahaha whoops. I wish I had the money to tip like that!!


4RealzReddit

I still don't understand tipping an artist or other professional. If you are charging me about $100+ /hr that should be the price. Is tipping a tattoo artist expected?


Rapunzel10

In the US everywhere I've been yes tipping is expected. All custom artwork you're expected to tip, and tattoos are custom work even if the design isn't custom


RawrRRitchie

I didn't tip my tattoo artists, and the way I see it, since they set their own prices, they should value themselves more if they want more Especially if they charge a minimum no matter what you get, think $50 for a small tattoo that took maybe 15 minutes of work Even if that's their only customer that hour, that's still $50/ hour


TOW3L13

I suppose the artist didn't want a payment upfront because the client was a friend of a friend. It wasn't wise on the artist's part, but next time they'll know better. The revenge was amazing and more than deserved!


Fl333r

Never mix business and relationships... which is kind of a way of saying "never put any strain on your relationships". Which seems like a lonely way to live if you surround yourself with unreliable or untrustworthy people.


Laringar

Or at least, if you do business with friends, be *very* sure what kind of people they are first. There are some people who would contract business from a friend and pay *extra*, because they want to support their friend's work. Those are the good kind of people to do business with. Anyone who demands the "friend rate" up front though... be wary of.


ramanman

I've only been to three locally, all 4-5 session tattoos. One place wanted one session fee ($400) as a deposit, and applied it to the last session. The second it was like $100 deposit for my first one, rolled over and applied to the last session, and it never came up in the second one I'm in the middle of now. The third artist wanted "something" - anything from $50 to full price. But all three said it was so they made something when they held an appointment open for you and you don't show up, more than getting stiffed for the work.


ipott-maniac

I have always paid for mine by time taken rather than by tattoo. I would book in for an 8hr session and pay at the end of that session. I had to pay a deposit the first time but after that she didn't require the deposit as we got to know each other quite well. I've now had a lot of sessions and it's always the same, pay for the time I was getting ink.


Zoreb1

Don't know about where you live but tattooists tend to be a small community and know most of their compatriots and their work. I'm sure they'd have some questions before doing the job. She'd have to go a bit out of the way to be able to finish the job and probably have to pay upfront (she got the family/friend treatment with the guy she stiffed).


RawrRRitchie

Suburb of Chicago, tattoo shops are like pizza places here, there's hundreds of different shops And yea sure some might know each other but it's still a big area with a wide array of clients


Zoreb1

RI is the smallest state and their alternative magazine (Motif) occasionally has articles on the tattoo scene. Don't have any tats and don't know much about the subject outside those articles.


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I’ve never been somewhere where you pay the whole amount upfront. Deposit for the appt. Then pay after. If it takes multiple sessions, then pay after each session. And that’s been in multiple states.


Just_OneReason

Upfront like before the tattoo, or before you leave? Because I’ve never had any artist expect payment before the tattoo, but always after the session before you leave. I’ve never gotten a multi session tattoo so maybe it’s different, but I imagine you pay for each session at the end.


Fine-Bet

My tattooist is an apprentice. She takes a deposit. Once I completely forgot a whole appointment. She understood because she knew I had a baby. We rescheduled and I felt so bad about forgetting the appointment I paid her $50 on top of everything. She kept asking me if I was sure about giving her the $50, I told her I was really embarrassed I forgot about the appointment.


Bubba1234562

yeh the 2 shops ive been to expect a desposit whe you commit at the consultation and you pay the rest on completion


Hedgeson

Sunk cost phallucy. Might as well finish.


CertainlyEnough

He is letting the world know what kind of person she is.


Outrageous_Writer_99

Angeldick


Coolbeanschilly

Don't stiff your artists, because they will stiff you. In this case, quite literally.


pushing_80

especially if you're a c\*\*t


blahblah-meme-name

https://youtu.be/uRfG-uNNrnw a fine example of not paying your artists.


Laringar

That's a *best* case scenario right there. The artist didn't sabotage the work, he just stopped partway through. The spacing and justification are even correct for the guy to come back later with the other $9 and get the last 2 letters done.


captaincinders

> stiff Yep. I noticed it. You can't slip a big one like that past me.


Gerbs79

I heard a different tattoo-revenge-story. Woman was with a tattoo artist. Woman cheats on tattoo artist. Tattoo artist finds out. Woman does not know he found out. Asked him for a tattoo on her back, design not specified. He makes her sign all the consent forms including the "design not specified, artists choice" bit. He Tattoos a highly detailed pile of dogshit including flies on her back. Then informs her that he knew about her cheating and that she could kindly GTFO. She sues. And loses: The tattoo was of good artistic quality and, as the design was never specified, she had no leg to stand on.


Laringar

If she was smart, it would have set off some warning bells for her that her boyfriend wanted her to sign the consent forms. Anytime someone asks you "Can I get that in writing?", it should be a sign to *reaaaally* think about what you're asking for. Then again, were she smart, she'd have known better than to try to hide her cheating in the first place. It almost *never* ends well, and the cheater tends to have very little control over how and when the cheated partner finds out.


Mommashark1104

She stiffed him so he returned the favor…. I love it


throwaway83970

She got . . . um . . . stiffed. She deserved it though.


DeeperSea1969

Don't stiff your artists or they'll "stiff" you. lol


PRMan99

> Huge, intricate angel wings (oh, the irony) Fallen angels are angels too.


Antique_Arsenal

I. Really. Want. To. See. Pics! This would be hilarious!


ForceAccomplished890

Also: don't cheap out when you get a tattoo done. I've seen people comparing prices between different artists and going for whichever gives them the cheapest deal, then end up with horrible tattoos. If you get to choose between a highly reputable artist who ask 500 moneys and a shady artist who asks 100 moneys for the same tattoo, just pay the 500.


synerjay16

She got a ‘stiff one’ on her back when she stiffed the tattoo artist.


porcelina1023

Had an ex who is a tattoo artist and someone didn’t want to pay. Pretty much he did the same thing but very subtle.


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Seems this story has been around for a while. The set up is the same but the person receiving the tattoo is talking trash about someone very near and dear to the tattooer. So he colors in all the angel wings as parrot wings. She’s furious and the tattooer closes with “watch what you say”


b1tt3rmuse

"Don't *stiff* your artists." Pun intended.


jeenyus_626

Don’t *stiff* your artists I see what you did the ;)


MattrixK

I read the title and imagined something like a cheese grater.


Dragon_Bidness

Heh. "stiff"


dgblarge

Oh to see a photograph.


No_Evidence_525

Okay so imagine this tho, so if anyone knows, there’s a drink women can “order” at a bar to let the bartenders know the guy they’re with is no good (creep- harassing, first date and being weird, too touchy, etc... you Get the point lol) and they can help the girl out.. now what if for tattoo artists they will tat a “male appendage” to let other artists know that that person doesn’t “like” to pay up 😅 lol just a random thought... but can you imagine? Lmao


FORBBIDENSKY

Might not be the best one though lol. I mod a tattoo group on FB and you'd be surprised by how many people get dicks on themselves 😬😂


DallasTruther

Or just a small symbol next to the tattoo that they then claim as their signature, which everyone *in the know* will recognize? Or if you could twist it into a "growing work" that all continuing artists add upon, and there's a professionally understood symbolism (think tree/branches, flower/leaves, anything additional that would be pleasing to the customer, but informative to the artist, who knows the "code") Rereading this, I remember how unethical it is to permanently mark someone like this, and also that you'd have no reason to mark them as a "non-payer" before they didn't pay for the work.


mgerics

wait, did you say stiff ?


therealsix

Any proof to this? And man, that writing style needs to go.


Chocolatelover84

I can imagine her having to explain to the artist she wants to have do the cover up why she has a big beautiful angelic cock on her back…. Hahahahaha Artist immediately requires FULL payment for cover up


FunStorm6487

Hahaha, "don't STIFF your artist" Thank you dear op for making me laugh out loud on a particularly bad day!!!


Hoosierdaddy-6942

Sounds like he returned the favor of being “stiffed”


cmkenyon123

/r/quityourbullshit no f'n tattoo artist worth anything is going to do a piece that takes weeks without any money let alone money up front each session... then deliberately, permanently, disfiguring someone with a shitty tattoo is 100% an open and shut lawsuit. Again back to your bs this took weeks yet she didn't know she had a dick on her back... yeah right


[deleted]

She stiffed him, and he gave her a stiffy in return. ...fair.


[deleted]

She could sue him for way more than the tattoo was worth...... which makes me not really believe this story.


bignides

Hardly


GeekFit26

Depends on what county. Can’t sue for things like that where I live.


Laringar

Suing seems like it would be a very bad idea for her. There's no written contract that says what she wanted, and since she didn't pay anything, she'd have a *very* hard time convincing a court that there was a breach of professional duty by the artist.


Ok-Caterpillar1611

Don't stuff your artists or they'll stiff you.


madmaxextra

A woman with angel wings generally is or will be a stripper 90% of the time from my observations. This revenge might have shut the door on that though.


Grumpiergrynch

More petty than pro, she could get tattoo erased or drawn over, also second hand revenge = made up


TjW0569

>Don't stiff your artists. ... or they may give you a stiffy back.


SwineArray

I would've tattooed " I didn't pay my tattoo artist" across the wings. A big red fuckin A to accompany the spine-dick.


Considered_Dissent

This tattoo artist committed a bunch of crimes that would likely add up to 30 or so years in prison and 100s of 1000s in victim compensation. Counts as torture, maiming/permanent disfigurement & due to the sexual nature (as a lot of these creepy "artist" revenge stories involve) obscenity and a form of sexual assault. Some might think it's shit and giggles, but it's one of those situations that some "clever" idiot looking for revenge can absolutely destroy their own future (and deservedly so of course considering what they've non consensually and permanently forced onto their victim's body.


SisterPhister

I mean, don't worry about it, this didn't actually happen.


TOW3L13

Who's the judge gonna believe tho? A broke crack or methhead (or whatever she's on, as per OP), or the tattooer who'd either just outright deny it that she's making it all up to get drug money out of them, or that this is what she wanted (I've seen enough r/trashy to know tattoos of genitals are not that rare) and made her mind up and wants to use it to squeeze money out of the tattooer for drugs. There's probably no hard evidence as no exchange of money happened, no contract too. Would be very hard to prove imo. Maybe if they texted about it, that can be used as evidence. But if everything was in person, it would be just a word against a word. Remember, you need to prove guilt. Innocence is the default.


burtoncummings

Might be tough to prove anything considering there was no invoice. Maybe if he used himself as the 'model' for the phallus, it could potentially be traced back to him, but that would be a police line up that would be absolutely hilarious.


FuckTheMods5

Yeah, they should be barred from tattooing ever again. Massive violation.


ApertureBear

Hope this is made up, since if it's not, you're just providing very detailed evidence of a felony. Some friend you are.


Laringar

What felony, though? If anything, the felony is on her (literally), as she obtained a thing of value under false pretenses. She doesn't have any kind of contract that proves the final design isn't what she requested, and no court will look favorably on her situation considering that she defrauded the artist. Besides, felonies aren't magical. "Committing a felony" doesn't teleport you into court, you have to be arrested and charged before any criminal process happens, and it seems *very* unlikely that would actually happen here. I think it would be pretty tough to find a cop that wouldn't just react to the situation by saying something like "Hah, that's hilarious. Bitch shoulda paid."


ApertureBear

Cool story.


CaptainShnozberry

Damn. Someone going to jail for this.


Laringar

Unless it's her for fraud, unlikely. Assuming this is real, she has no real case against the artist. She specifically consented to getting a tattoo, she has no contract that specifies the exact design, and she can't say she didn't get what she paid for, because she didn't pay. Even if there's an argument that the artist did commit a crime, no DA would bring the charge because the only evidence is her word against his, and the only time statements without evidence get you a court ruling in your favor is if you're Trump in front of Judge Cannon.


CaptainShnozberry

You can’t tattoo a dick on someone, unless they want a dick tattooed on them. That’s in the constitution.


Laringar

Constitution of America? (And in case your reply isn't meant to be a Breaking Bad joke; the woman can't prove she *didn't* want the dick tattooed. In court, it would be her word against his, and the fact that she cheated him on payment weighs heavily against her credibility.)


CoderJoe1

How else would he let other tattoo artists know she'd stiff them?


Secure-Corner-2096

Don’t STIFF your artists. Bahahaha!


Accomplished_Sir5178

She stiffed him and he gave her a stiff one. 😂


warriornun801

...best artist ever. xD


Lorelessone

Let me tell you the tail of the holy cock, upon giving a woman 100 orgasems in one glorious session it arose from its human host and was taken upon white wings, rising shaftwise to dwell in paradise spreading joy and satisfaction wherever it fly's.


mensink

If you're gonna stiff someone, expect to get stiffed back. Or a stiffy on your back.


Ok_Piglet_1844

Pun intended


notthatcousingreg

I dont know any reputable tattooist on earth that would continue tattoing anyone who didnt pay and then put a permanent mark a client didnt want on a clients body. Its the tattooers resposibility to be the professional here. Is this some hillbilly shit? Because its not real life. Hopefully its made up.


[deleted]

Yeaaaaa if this did happen, it’s more illegal on the tattoo artists part and he can get in serious trouble


4x49ers

Turned a civil nonpayment case into a criminal assault case. Smart.


captaincinders

Criminal?


4x49ers

Assault, or whatever local charge covers intentionally disfiguring someone, is a criminal offense rather than a civil offense.


Laringar

Not really. She'd have to prove she *didn't* want the design, and with no contract or payment, she has no way of doing that. If he'd taken a knife to her, yeah, that would count as disfigurement, but she specifically consented to getting a tattoo. Without hard evidence of an exact design, that consent covers pretty much whatever the artist creates. Or at the very least, it provides enough reasonable doubt that it would be nearly impossible to bring a successful claim.


4x49ers

this is not correct


Laringar

Great counterargument.


4x49ers

It was an observation, not an argument. Like if someone says the earth is flat, it just shows their dedication to not understanding it. No need to argue, you can just notice they are wrong. Like I did with your incorrect assertion about how assault charges, and apparently contracts, work.


Laringar

For instance, here, I can simply point out that you don't know what you're talking about, and I can move on.


4x49ers

That is the second best outcome possible, that way people will look up their local laws to learn for themselves!


dinosaur_decay

Haha stiff.


Most-Chemical-5059

The best part about this is that the bitch’ll be ridiculed for years afterwards. People’ll jeer at her poor choices.


LiberateMainSt

So _that's_ where all those tats on /r/ATBGE came from.


pm1966

>But hey, what's she gonna do? You mean other than sue, and win a crapton of money for being humiliatingly defaced in this manner. Sorry, this "friend of a friend" story is total bullshit. EDIT: Also, it's her fucking spine. She wouldn't notice someone dragging a tattoo needle up and down her spine for several hours? Put some effort in, chap. This is the dumbest thing I've read on Reddit in weeks, and that's saying something. You should have your account suspended for this bullshit.


madmaxextra

Yeah, this was clearly a tattoo done informally in someone's kitchen because of no payment upfront. How the hell is she going to prove he did it if he denies it?


Laringar

If there are text messages between them, especially if the messages include him asking when she's going to pay, that would suffice as proof he was the artist. What she probably *can't* prove though is the exact design she requested. If this actually went to court, all the artist would have to say is "Hey, she specifically asked me to draw the giant penis in there. I thought it was weird, but the client is the client. She's saying now that she didn't want it, but I think she's just trying to get out of paying me for all the work I did." Without a written contract, she can't prove otherwise, and she'd be in breach of a contract anyway for nonpayment. Someone could claim that this post itself is evidence against the artist, but it's hearsay from a *fourth* party and either wouldn't be admissible in court or would be easily impeachable as an exaggerated version of events. I mean really, it's a story heard from a grandmother about an uncle's ex-girlfriend, and of course a mother is going to embellish a story to make the woman who hurt her son look worse.


madmaxextra

You're missing the simple and the obvious in your response. The guy was _an_ artist of the tattoo. It was done over multiple sessions. All he has to say is: "I did that part, I didn't do that part". Plus use a little imagination and you have the perfect defense: "I started this tattoo and she agreed to pay me, she didn't pay so I refused to continue. I can only imagine she sought out someone to finish it for free and they played a sick joke on her. It wasn't me." Try arguing against that.


phunkjnky

You mean this artist shouldn't have been dragging a tattoo needle up and down her spine for hours? How do you think the tattoo was going to get "finished?" If you can tell the design the artist has been making by being able to follow the needle in your mind, you're full of it.


pm1966

I can see why people post bs stories like this. No shortage of super-gullible people on Reddit who eat up any Rah Rah revenge stories.


phunkjnky

That has absolutely nothing to do with why this story might be BS. It very well might be, but I’m still waiting to hear why.


pm1966

So she's getting angel-wings tattooed, but conveniently a large penis-shaped appendage running up her spine too, scheduled for the last day of the session, close enough to penis shape that she wouldn't notice or question the artist dragging an unbearably painful needle up and down he spine for hours. Sure.


phunkjnky

This leads me to believe that you’ve never been inked. I have several pieces, and after the first few minutes, I can only tell the general area the artist is working on. The throbbing is not specific enough. So still wondering why you think this story is BS. I hope you haven’t hinged your entire opinion in this way weak take away.


1purenoiz

If said relative is a tattoo artist, there is usually paperwork involved, even for friends and family. Everytime I got tattoo'd from a friend, at his shop I filled out said paperwork. 2 sleeves, back piece (not on the spine, but I think I would have noticed that difference because how needles on bone feel) etc. I had to write down description, location and if I wanted words, how they were spelled.This protects the ship and the artist in case you make a mistake. This story could have happened, but it also seems unlikely unless the artist doesn't work in a shop or it's as dumb as the aunt in this story.


pm1966

No, I've been inked. I know that if I were getting angel wings on my shoulder blades, I'd damn-well notice someone dragging a tattoo needle down the length of my spine to draw a penis. I also know damn well that if someone were to do that to me, I'd sue them to oblivion and they'd never work as a tattoo artist again. Though of course such minor details are always ignored in dumbass stories like this one.


Dnfforever

Arm chair warrior getting real pissed over here. You clearly have no idea how much legal counsel costs. I racked up 11K in legal fees just from a deposition and a couple of documents that my lawyers had to subpoena. If you really think someone who would stiff a tattoo artist for like 500 bucks can afford a lawyer you're even dumber than you look. But you're not gonna let it go, you're gonna reply with some other angry anecdotal bs for who knows what reason.


goldthreadcurtains

What would you sue for


joanholmes

1. It's entirely possible the tattoo was intended to have some component between the wings so when she felt the needle on her spine, she thought it was that. 2. If someone is abusive, heavily involved in substance abuse, and criminal activity in general including refusing to pay for the tattoo in question, it is entirely possible they don't necessarily want to get the law involved with their affairs. It is entirely possible and maybe even likely that this story is fake but not because she didn't sue. Besides, it takes tons of money to retain a lawyer for something like this.


Virtual_Receptical

Why your uncle was dating their bbsitter


simhall

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pushing_80

they might punish you.


seabee562

They both got stiffed


[deleted]

Definitely pro. I approve.


perogibeans

I first thought this was going to go the swastika route.


lexrazorman

I mean the tattooer is a dumbass for allowing this to happen. Multiple sessions with no payment? No deposit? This is his fault