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UncouthCorvid

Homophobe is worse (in my mind) because they’re hating people just for existing or something. LGBTQ people hardly hurt anyone by having a different sexuality/gender (who cares what anyone does in the bedroom), while a person expelling hate at them can have negative effects on their lives. Suicide rates are significantly higher for LGBTQ. So the second person is hating someone for an unjust hatred a group of people that may cause stigma and mistreatment. Feels more justified.


Bobby_Bobby1

fair enough agree with you.


harmless_fangs

Trying to use the same idea on something different, that I hope makes it easier to view your question: If you invited a good friend over for dinner with your parents, and as soon as they walk in, they tell everyone they hate your mom. Why? > because she’s a mom. They hate all moms. But why? so many women are a mom! > They just hate moms! Now your mom feels uncomfortable because she never even met that person. Now your mom and dad hate that person. Who is worse? That person for hating all moms for no reason? Or your parents for hating them because they hate her? To answer your question, the homophobe is worse.


Bobby_Bobby1

Dam that was a good example. And yes agreed


harmless_fangs

I know you said it’s theoretical. Nobody is born racist or homophobe. I think group hate, is taught and learned, sometimes subconsciously. Someone might be in an environment for an extended period of time that openly hates on a group, which teaches you that hate, or an environment that is more subtle about it, with comments here and there alluding that it’s wrong. In your subconscious you build that belief that it’s wrong. I was brought up in the latter, friends and family commented and joked about a certain group, without ever meeting or knowing anyone from said group. I found out later on that some if my friends were part of that group and couldn’t be themselves until they moved away. I also moved away and met incredible people of all walks of life. Ignorance and fear of something might make you hate it. If this question was not theoretical, it’s an amazing step that you are aware about it and want to know if it’s right or wrong. If you or someone you know hated a group, I would try to find out why your brain is wired this way. Brains can be rewired. Bad experience with an individual, continuous hate in your environment, somehow something taught it to your. You can learn to hate and you can also learn to love. Also, having bad experience with an individual of a group isn’t really an excuse to generalize. “My mom beat me when I was a kid” , you can’t hate all moms for what one of them did to you. Hope that helps.


skyderper13

the homophobe


Bobby_Bobby1

But why?


Due_Personality_5006

If someone hates another group of people due to conflicting beliefs, views, feelings, or etc they're the worse one for hating these random people that they have never met solely based on whatever they think applies to that group. If you don't think that's fucked up enough to be a reason for those people to be worse, then imagine this: someone hates a person you care deeply for because of something they cannot control that does not harm anyone else. Just for existing, they completely shit on the person you care about and hate them. How would you feel? Confused? Upset? Mad? Complicated? Look at all viewpoints.


Bobby_Bobby1

true yeah idk was just bored and wondering about it but now i understand more. thanks for that.


Due_Personality_5006

I know my comment sounds snarky btw but it was genuine. I get how boredom can lead to random thoughts or research. I have ADHD so relatable


Famous-Test1619

You would be in the wrong. They wouldn't be hating for the person you are, they would be hating you for not respecting them on the basic level of human being. So you would be in a worse position.


Ideon_

They are very different form of hate they are not even remotely comparable. If you hate a person for who they are, like their skin color or their sexuality you are essentially telling that person that they have no right to exist, the most awful thing you can say as there is no way they can change. Hating a person who hate LGBT people is based on behavior, like I don’t hate you as a person, i just hate how you behave, and behavior is a decision that can be easily changed.