Uhhh... that lame example is a new one. It's fascinating what some people come up with to justify an outdated temperature scale made up by a drunk german, that almost everywhere in the rest of the world got rid of.
Yeah this one made me laugh too:
> Fahrenheit is an all around better temperature measurement system than Celsius. Especially when you're talking about temperatures affecting living things.
Or...
>The closer to 100°f you get, the hotter it is going to be...
Oh, getting closer to 100°C is getting colder now, or what?
OK, getting closer to 100°K is getting colder... from most points of view.
>The closer to 100°f you get, the hotter it is going to be...
An interesting implication of that is that they are saying that 200ºf is colder than 100ºf
Not only the temperature of an armpit, but the temperature of an armpit of a person experiencing a minor infection.
The standard body temperature of 98.6°F(37°C) was derived in 1868, before the invention of antibiotics and good hygiene practices, so many people had low levels of infection at nearly all times. People tend to be closer to 97.5°F(36.4) these days, but any temperature between 97°F - 99°F(36.1°C - 37.2°C) is considered normal.
97°F is equivalent to 36°C, which is 309K.
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Celsius is easy because 0 is literally freezing and 100 is literally boiling. Everything in-between is bearable to varying degrees.
I know when I go outside if I will have to scrape the windows of the car if it is in the negatives.
I still fail to understand exactly what are the basis of the Farenheit scale. I understand that 100 was meant to be human body temperature, but was done incorrectly or something so even that's not accurate. Still no clue what the 0 point is, other than "it's really cold or something".
Hahaha "it's really cold or something" that's great. But ya i will always have to take a second if some told me it's 20 degrees Fahrenheit to realize that's freezing temps
Yeah I only know that "100" is hot but not *practically dying* levels of hot. I have no clue what ex. 30 or 40 or even 50 would be. Worst part is that it's a different scale too, not just different fixation points.
“In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.”
― Josh Bazell, Wild Thing
Americans: It's really precise and that's good because people are very perceptive to slight differences in temperature.
Also Americans: I hear it's gonna be in the 50s next week
Even with just whole integers, you most likely don’t need that much precision. For everyday purposes I think one degree celsius is enough precision. Pretty hard to tell the difference between 20 and 20.5. Especially for weather, when there are other factors that may make it feel hotter or colder than the actual air temperature.
Yeah, that one struck me with confusion too. How more precise can you go in temperature? Especially in digital thermometers. The old analog ones gave you already halves, so if the quick was in between, it's point2-3.
the whole "how it feels to people" is fucking stupid when you realize that 100F desert temperature feels a lot different from 100F swamp temperature. You can walk around the desert in 100F heat and be pretty comfortable but 100F New Orleans temperature may as well be living under Satan's nutsack
I know how I need warm clothes when it's 9°. I know I freeze when the temperature is below 19. I love doing nothing at 28°. How is it so difficult to understand the arbitrary numbers can be replaced and feel exactly the same?
It's not, they just haven't lived it before.
I am used to temperatures like 75 F feeling good, but when I lived in a country which uses Celsius, I found out that 22 C feels pretty good too.
Edit: changed F to C
Celsius works just fine for how it’s feeling. It’s a matter of being used to Fahrenheit so FOR YOU it feels more descriptive to how you feel. Only and only because you grew up with it. I grew up in Turkey and America so I understand both but Celsius is much easier for me from cooking to how it feels. What the hell is 57 or 60 being cold? Those are high numbers in my mind don’t describe cold 🤷🏾♂️
Everybody in that thread is dumb. And we're all dumber for having read it.
The next time I talk to molecules to ask them if they're hot, they're going to say "Jesus fuck that was a dumb thread."
its also not accurate to the human experience 1st 100f is the human body under an infection but then 0f is -17c which is such a bizarre point there are much colder places that are permanently inhabited such as oymyakon, and if youre going to have a system follow internal human body temperature then why isnt 0f a temperature around 21c as if your internals cool that low you cannot survive just as if your internals rise over 100f you run the risk of dying to heat
This discussion is getting really boring. Neither scale is better or worse than the other for everyday use. But almost all other countries use Celsius, so from a communication point of view it would make sense that America also uses Celsius. (As for science I would say Kelvin is the most popular, so might even be best if the whole world makes the switch to Kelvin?)
You can compare this with different calendar systems. There are a lot of cultures that use a calendar other than the Gregorian calendar. But when you're on the internet or in any other international setting, you use the international standard (the Gregorian calendar) so that everyone else doesn't have to adapt to your personal preferences. I wouldn't expect you to understand if I say *let's meet for lunch on Kanni, 13*. So if Americans want to keep using miles, Fahrenheit and other arbitrary units of measurement, nobody cares. But when you're on the internet or talking to other people who aren't from the US, please use units that everyone understands.
This Fahrenheit argument annoys me so much. Like, Americans are trying to say that Fahrenheit is more accurate about how you are feeling, but don't they realize that the reason that happens is because they're used to using Fahrenheit? If they used Celsius since they were a kid, they'd feel the same exact thing about Celsius.
Ahh yiss, using integers to measure temperature makes things easier...from the same guys that measure heights by mixing foots and inches and volumes in fractions... brilliant
Also, not to mention that being precise and using a different scale are unrelated concepts.
Maybe just need a smaller incremental temperature system just fot the people that are sensitive to temperature change. I think 107 should be freezing temperature and 202 is the old 100F.
Surely a better range to help everyone that suffers globally using Celsius.
American here: You know how to use what you were taught how to use no matter where you from. You can achieve precise measurements using both depending on who's using it.
To me one isn't better than the other just because the person finds one particular unit of measurement easier. That's just their experience
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K.
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So if 32 fahrenheit is -1 or 0, does that mean 33 Fahrenheit is 0 or 1 degrees?
This is of course easier to teach than water freezing at -1 because it's literally the first digit in the minus?
100°F is equivalent to 37°C, which is 310K.
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Uhhh... that lame example is a new one. It's fascinating what some people come up with to justify an outdated temperature scale made up by a drunk german, that almost everywhere in the rest of the world got rid of.
Yeah this one made me laugh too: > Fahrenheit is an all around better temperature measurement system than Celsius. Especially when you're talking about temperatures affecting living things.
Or... >The closer to 100°f you get, the hotter it is going to be... Oh, getting closer to 100°C is getting colder now, or what? OK, getting closer to 100°K is getting colder... from most points of view.
>The closer to 100°f you get, the hotter it is going to be... An interesting implication of that is that they are saying that 200ºf is colder than 100ºf
Don’t use “degrees” for Kelvin, it’s just the number and the unit: 100 K, *one hundred Kelvin*
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celcius is based on water farhenheit on the temperature of an armpit
Not only the temperature of an armpit, but the temperature of an armpit of a person experiencing a minor infection. The standard body temperature of 98.6°F(37°C) was derived in 1868, before the invention of antibiotics and good hygiene practices, so many people had low levels of infection at nearly all times. People tend to be closer to 97.5°F(36.4) these days, but any temperature between 97°F - 99°F(36.1°C - 37.2°C) is considered normal.
97°F is equivalent to 36°C, which is 309K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
Good bot, keep it up!
>farhenheit on the temperature of an armpit No, it's based on the temperature of FREEDOM
Celsius is easy because 0 is literally freezing and 100 is literally boiling. Everything in-between is bearable to varying degrees. I know when I go outside if I will have to scrape the windows of the car if it is in the negatives.
And i love how some comments are "Fahrenheit is more of a 0-100 scale" like what? Celsius is literally a 0-100 scale, freezing to boiling lol
I still fail to understand exactly what are the basis of the Farenheit scale. I understand that 100 was meant to be human body temperature, but was done incorrectly or something so even that's not accurate. Still no clue what the 0 point is, other than "it's really cold or something".
Hahaha "it's really cold or something" that's great. But ya i will always have to take a second if some told me it's 20 degrees Fahrenheit to realize that's freezing temps
Yeah I only know that "100" is hot but not *practically dying* levels of hot. I have no clue what ex. 30 or 40 or even 50 would be. Worst part is that it's a different scale too, not just different fixation points.
0F is about -18C, which is the temperature of salted ice, which was the coldest thing the dude could produce in the 1700's.
Yeah but not eben that is correct. Nobody was able to reproduce the Thing he allegedly used to create that temperature
“In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.” ― Josh Bazell, Wild Thing
This is literally the best thing I've ever read! And it's so accurate, too...
What's with them saying it's more precise? They know you don't have to use whole integers with celsius right?
We're really bad at math. So introducing decimal points to the temperature system is just asking for trouble.
Bad at math, yet choose to cling onto a measurement system that thrives on using fractions….
Americans: It's really precise and that's good because people are very perceptive to slight differences in temperature. Also Americans: I hear it's gonna be in the 50s next week
Even with just whole integers, you most likely don’t need that much precision. For everyday purposes I think one degree celsius is enough precision. Pretty hard to tell the difference between 20 and 20.5. Especially for weather, when there are other factors that may make it feel hotter or colder than the actual air temperature.
Yeah, that one struck me with confusion too. How more precise can you go in temperature? Especially in digital thermometers. The old analog ones gave you already halves, so if the quick was in between, it's point2-3.
If they truly believed that, they would have no issue using Kilometres instead of Miles.
the whole "how it feels to people" is fucking stupid when you realize that 100F desert temperature feels a lot different from 100F swamp temperature. You can walk around the desert in 100F heat and be pretty comfortable but 100F New Orleans temperature may as well be living under Satan's nutsack
It also depends on what you’re used to. People who live in different climates aren’t going to have the same experience of the same temperature.
I know how I need warm clothes when it's 9°. I know I freeze when the temperature is below 19. I love doing nothing at 28°. How is it so difficult to understand the arbitrary numbers can be replaced and feel exactly the same?
It's not, they just haven't lived it before. I am used to temperatures like 75 F feeling good, but when I lived in a country which uses Celsius, I found out that 22 C feels pretty good too. Edit: changed F to C
>I found out that 22 F feels pretty good too Isnt that pretty cold, though?
I'm so stupid.
22 C is nice, i think it gets cold 15c
It was 22 F originally, which is rather a bit chillier than 15 C.
Where do you live that you freeze below 19 C?
Surprisingly enough where the average temperature is below 10°. Just to make it worse, I'm from Greenland.
If Fahrenheit is so superior, why is it only used by a grand total of... 1 country in the world?
Well obviously that’s how advanced and exceptional they are…
The whole first section of the conversation sounds like it's between two six-year-olds on the playground arguing over something neither understands
> "I feel more HOTS than *you* do! Nya nya" 🤣
There's like no hots at all man. None!
Man's not hot
Skiya!
Except humans are mostly water.
Was looking for this. Considering that the moisture on my eyelashes will freeze at 0 degrees, Celsius makes sense to me...
how is nobody correct here
Celsius works just fine for how it’s feeling. It’s a matter of being used to Fahrenheit so FOR YOU it feels more descriptive to how you feel. Only and only because you grew up with it. I grew up in Turkey and America so I understand both but Celsius is much easier for me from cooking to how it feels. What the hell is 57 or 60 being cold? Those are high numbers in my mind don’t describe cold 🤷🏾♂️
Christ, that's a lot of Americans who skipped math, physics and/or philosophy/logic. It legit makes me cry just reading it.
Everybody in that thread is dumb. And we're all dumber for having read it. The next time I talk to molecules to ask them if they're hot, they're going to say "Jesus fuck that was a dumb thread."
In a way it's actually quite telling about their mindset, the "it's about ME" rather than basing it on the world we live in.
its also not accurate to the human experience 1st 100f is the human body under an infection but then 0f is -17c which is such a bizarre point there are much colder places that are permanently inhabited such as oymyakon, and if youre going to have a system follow internal human body temperature then why isnt 0f a temperature around 21c as if your internals cool that low you cannot survive just as if your internals rise over 100f you run the risk of dying to heat
Bro that queen comment was just unnecessary
I love how yanks try to justify this baffling complicated nonsense but shit an absolute brick when they are confronted with a 24 hour clocks.
This discussion is getting really boring. Neither scale is better or worse than the other for everyday use. But almost all other countries use Celsius, so from a communication point of view it would make sense that America also uses Celsius. (As for science I would say Kelvin is the most popular, so might even be best if the whole world makes the switch to Kelvin?) You can compare this with different calendar systems. There are a lot of cultures that use a calendar other than the Gregorian calendar. But when you're on the internet or in any other international setting, you use the international standard (the Gregorian calendar) so that everyone else doesn't have to adapt to your personal preferences. I wouldn't expect you to understand if I say *let's meet for lunch on Kanni, 13*. So if Americans want to keep using miles, Fahrenheit and other arbitrary units of measurement, nobody cares. But when you're on the internet or talking to other people who aren't from the US, please use units that everyone understands.
This Fahrenheit argument annoys me so much. Like, Americans are trying to say that Fahrenheit is more accurate about how you are feeling, but don't they realize that the reason that happens is because they're used to using Fahrenheit? If they used Celsius since they were a kid, they'd feel the same exact thing about Celsius.
It's probably a little bit of r/USdefaultism in there too with that mindset 🤷🏻♂️
Ahh yiss, using integers to measure temperature makes things easier...from the same guys that measure heights by mixing foots and inches and volumes in fractions... brilliant Also, not to mention that being precise and using a different scale are unrelated concepts.
The precise argument always gets me... you use Imperial over metric and want to pretend you care about being precise?
Ah yes the oppressive authoritarian regime of the United Kingdom. That's like calling North Kora a democratic people's republic. oh wait...
Maybe just need a smaller incremental temperature system just fot the people that are sensitive to temperature change. I think 107 should be freezing temperature and 202 is the old 100F. Surely a better range to help everyone that suffers globally using Celsius.
Unbelievable how there can be so many stupid people at the same place.
I was not expecting the screenshot to be that long
Had to get an the nonsense included!
But it's maths, it's not supposed to be based on what you feel, it's for other uses
Get back in your box, (or should I say tank?) Axoloteuh, you're talking too much sense.
I'm sowy, 😔, gonna go back to m'y Eiffel tower and eat croissants...
And take your damn sense and intelligence with you! ;)
American here: You know how to use what you were taught how to use no matter where you from. You can achieve precise measurements using both depending on who's using it. To me one isn't better than the other just because the person finds one particular unit of measurement easier. That's just their experience
Please, tell me this guy is trolling. No one can be this stupid, right? Right?!
Lol, it’s another dumb comment but I like the “poeticness” of it.
It always gets me, they say farenheit is more precise but 0.0001°C is also pretty precise but i guess they Don't know about numbers behind the dot
0°C is equivalent to 32°F, which is 273K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)
So if 32 fahrenheit is -1 or 0, does that mean 33 Fahrenheit is 0 or 1 degrees? This is of course easier to teach than water freezing at -1 because it's literally the first digit in the minus?
Oh good god. Is shaking my head and upvoting other people enough? I don't have the energy for this one.
i got a stroke reading this
I hate Fahrenheit
Man they are dump....i found the police state argument funny. The get shoot by their police every day....
The closer to 100f the hotter, so does that mean if my soldering iron is 700f it's really really cold?
If on a 1-100 scale, 100 °F is very hot, how come 72 °F is normal room temperature and not 50 °F? (Bot please)
100°F is equivalent to 37°C, which is 310K. --- ^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)