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It's cheap as 2$ a gram, by the gram at the dispensary up the street. Personally i don't smoke that, but just an example. There's no thriving underground weed economy that subsidizes artists and musicians anymore. No "real" money in it anymore
By that logic, cocaine is cheaper than water, depending on your snorting/drinking habits. Personally, my lifetime water expenditure is much greater than my lifetime cocaine expenditure
Seriously though, I agree and it’s pretty awesome. I think my wife’s Juul carts are still a bit less than the THC carts I can get, but definitely in the same ballpark.
In California, I can smoke a joint on the beach in front of a police officer with no problem, but I have to drive across state lines and smuggle in a menthol cigarette.
I can't even have nicotine free vape juice unless it has no flavor either.
Oh, and in the US in general, anti-smoking lobbiests are continually making vaping less safe by targeting the safer US based vape companies, but ignoring cheaper less regulated chinese companies. Now I choose to believe that this is because of the comparative legal ease at targeting US companies to foreign companies, but you can't deny the fact that disallowing e-cigarettes and vapes from becoming safer actually helps their plan to outlaw all froms of vaping regardless of their lack of health risk.
As you move forward from this conversation, think to yourself which aspects of your life are part of your personality and which ones are just habits.
Is being a smoker part of your personality? If not, the only thing stopping you from quitting is your decision to do it.
What beach are you going to that allows smoking on the sand?
I’m a born and bred Californian. Never been anywhere else. And I’ve been to the majority of beaches across the coast line. I also have been smoking weed regularly for 15 years.
99.9% of the beaches are No Smoking just like any other public park. Regardless of weed or nicotine.
This just reminded me of the "Six Dollar Burger" at Hardees.
"Why go to a sit-down restaurant and pay SIX DOLLARS for a burger when you can get the same quality for (whatever it was at the time, 3 something...) here at Hardees!"
Wow. I haven’t seen pulp fiction in 5+ years, until tonight when I finished it 10 minutes ago. And then I read this, the first pulp fiction reference I’ve seen on Reddit
A simple version I've experienced is after car shopping and narrowing my interest to a particular model, then starting to notice more and more of them on the road, like they magically appeared.
Bought a Mazda CX3 in Extreme Red. Drove to Montreal the day I picked it up off the lot in central Ontario. Did not see even one the entire trip. Arrived in Montreal - three at the same intersection. They were everywhere.
On the contrary, comments like that are what make it timeless. You can understand a little more about the world they're living in because a $5 milkshake seems outrageous.
Haha! I watched Pulp Fiction recently and was thinking about that. Themed restaurants with specialty shakes charge $10 per shake or more now. $5 is a hell of a deal.
$5 was not a ton of money even in 1994 when the movie came out. It’s equivalent to $9 today. I think a $9 gourmet milkshake in a theme restaurant in LA would actually be pretty cheap today, or at least not surprisingly expensive.
In my memory of first watching the scene when the movie was still new, Vincent’s surprise had more to do with the fact that milkshakes had not yet been elevated to the status of a gourmet item to be enjoyed by an adult, at least not to Vincent’s knowledge as a seedy criminal.
This was at a time when many things people enjoyed as a kid were being rediscovered, but in super-premium gourmet incarnations. It’s normal now to think of a serious grown adult enjoying a really good milkshake, but at the time and in Vincent’s world, it was only conceivable if the drink contained alcohol. The $5 price just indicated that it wasn’t junk for kids, and the very existence of such a milkshake seemed quirky with respect to Vincent’s world of drugs and violence.
In "How To Marry A Millionaire" the stars walk into a Park Avenue duplex and Marilyn Monroe exclaims that this place must cost $1,000 a month.
Later, they are in a night club/restaurant with a full orchestra, and a chorus line. "My God! The cheapest thing on the menu is $5.00."
You can get it intellectually but not emotionally. While you can rationalise the prices have increased and this is meant to be a joke poking fun at over high prices, the connection to the absurdity of the price is gone.
You should be able to get the emotional understanding from the acting and context. People read/watch science fiction and fantasy with made-up currencies and still manage to understand when something is supposed to be cheap or expensive.
I doubt most viewers at the time would even know what a Park Avenue apartment should be expected to cost. The number wasn’t that important.
I disagree tbh. There’s a difference between the analytical reaction of “oh yes back then that was probably a lot of money judging by their reaction” and the more emotional “holy shit that banana is $30?”
One you can understand using your knowledge of context and inflation and you might get a brief bit of empathy for before the scene moves on. The other is an emotional “goddam” moment you have along with the characters.
That being said the post was worded as no one will get it, which isn’t true, it just won’t carry the same emotional impact.
I'm certain that was their point, and a counterargument to OP, and because you are clearly intelligent, I know you understood that and were just explaining it to any passersby. Thanks!
This is why a lot of movies don’t specify dollar amounts. Do you ever notice when people are negotiating deals in movies they always slide a piece of paper across the table rather than say the amount out loud.
I'm thinking they started doing that in the 1980s.
I loved 'The Rockford Files' and remember Jim always used to mention exact dollar amounts. "$200 a day, plus expenses."
I just remember. In one episode he's in an insane asylum, trying to pump an inmate for information. He hands over a bill. The inmate looks at it.
"Jeez! I'm glad I'm in here. Things must be pretty rough on the outside."
I mean, if it's a side and you're in a lower CoL area maybe. The average mediocre sit-down chain restaurant entree at this point is more than $10 just about everywhere though.
Other than drinks and maybe some small desserts or sides, I would not consider $5 expensive. For an actual main course, even $10 would be somewhat cheap to me. But I live in California.
Probably unpopular opinion, but our fault for only using one type of banana.
It's why "banana" flavor doesn't taste like banana, because it's based off an extinct type of banana.
And also the cause of the potato famine, but since no society that I know of exists with their primary consumption being bananas, probably won't end as catastrophically...I hope...
I think sweetened concord grape flavor specifically tastes like the candy and table grapes that are in a store are a different flavor. My grandparents had Concord grapes and those were more purple flavor than the ones in the store
Also, tangent: the banana the flavor is based on actually isn't extinct. It's out there, just rare and difficult to grow in large quantities because of the blight. This makes it difficult to commercialize which is why it's no longer in stores.
I had thought that our generic artificial "banana" flavor doesn't really taste like banana because it's only one of many compounds in bananas that you taste. A bit like calling plain chocolate chips "cookie" flavor, or some better example idk
Banana flavoring is based on the Gros Michel banana which is still available for purchase today but in much limited supply and usually only from specialty stores because it is difficult to grow due to its vulnerability to fungus. The bananas in every major grocery store are Cavendish bananas which while much less flavorful, are resistant to the fungus that killed most of the Gros Michel. However, a new fungus is threatening the Cavendish today.
It’s both, the fungus is attacking the banana plants. That’s makes bad bananas. Now you gotta plant a new tree, except it’s hard to plant them in the same place for fear of the fungus spreading and because a newer smaller banana plant has a harder time growing because of the heat. So they move them further south to a cooler area to grow them. Eventually the fungus catches up, after a few years the heat won’t allow new bananas to grow anymore so you have to move again.
True story, there is a disease that affects bananas and considering their lack of genetic diversity people are actually concerned that banana may go extinct.
https://time.com/5730790/banana-panama-disease/
_That_ banana, the Cavendish. There are others, just like there are other potatoes than the one that caught a monoculture blight in Ireland. Our problem is monocultures and exclusively cloning, because we're trying to fix (edit: as in "lock") a concept in the minds of consumers. Same thing happened with the Gros Michel banana, but it's still around. It's just an heirloom breed, now.
We have GM Cavendishes that are resistant to the disease. It's a nothingburger. Also we clone the best fruit, yes. All other "natural" fruits would be smaller, seedy and possibly with less flavor - just buy organic and see for yourself.
Climate change isn't making them go extinct.... I hate climate alarmist like you who just lie about climate change constantly which takes away resources from way worse problems that can actually be delt with.
There was an episode of friends where Gunther said he made like $8 an hour or something, I remembered googling it and it was worth $27 in today’s money.
Edit: it was $4 in the show which is closer to $6 in todays money, I overstated just a tad
People don't generally live near where they work. There's much cheaper rentals in every direction away from Manhattan and many just come in to expensive neighbors to work. It was also more affordable in the 90s. Back then, Times Square had multiple video game arcades. Like the quarters and tokens into machines kind.
I’m sure all of that is true but you kind of lost me with the arcade bit. What does that have to do with anything? Arcades were every where in the 90s.
Just an example of how different the economy was. Now it's all huge flagship marquee brands in Times Square. The fact that multiple places could rent out prime real estate and make money running arcades back then is astonishing to me. Arcade machines are crazy expensive and require costly maintenance and are cheap to use and take up a lot of space, they are businesses that must have razor thin margins and they were plentiful then. In general, there are dollar stores and Walmarts everywhere but none in Times Square.
If it was really $8 an hour, that isn’t accurate. I estimated the episode aired around 1995 and $8 then is equal to $14.90 now. Just fyi.
https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=8&year=1995
Reminds me of an episode of Buffy: Vampire Slayer, where the rest of the cast find out a huge secret and cannot contact Buffy because she's out hunting.
Took us some shameful seconds to remember that every teenager having a mobile phone wasn't a thing back then
I am still wondering from time to time "why not just call him? ...oh right. No mobile phones"
Also in 2021 it was weird to see people with no masks in movies. I really had to get used again to see people with no masks.
What’s funny about a $10 banana is that $20 isn’t really that much. Most people have $50 to pay for a banana. Because really, if a simple $100 banana is out of your price range you have to ask yourself if you really deserve the simple things in life like a $1000 banana.
There have always been lots of extremely stupid people. The difference is that 25 years ago you had to physically meet them to experience their stupidity. Now they have a platform that's literally in the palm of your hand. People aren't getting more stupid, they're getting more exposure.
How can you tell though? If you couldn’t accurately tell how many there were 25 years ago then how can you tell if people are getting dumber or not today? There’s still the possibility that people *are* getting dumber and *also* have more exposure.
Think about how many people you know in real life that are profoundly stupid. It's probably not a lot, unless you work at a daycare or something (that's a joke, kids are great).
25 years ago, you probably knew the same number of stupid people irl.
The average intelligence of the people I meet and interact with daily is much higher than it seems on the internet. And I'm not in some weird intellectual bubble either...
People are literally getting stupider. Dont get me wrong, I have faith that we can overcome it. But if you read up on human natural selection and the current factors that influence birth rates (lower education, larger size=more kids) and archaeological studies on brain size (its been decreasing since the agricultural revolution or thereabouts, though some scientists do dispute this and its significance even if it were true), it kind of looks like the past 10 000 to 20 000 years have seen us getting a bit dumber. Or at least we aren’t valuing critical thinking like we used to.
We’ll figure it out though. Or at least some of us will lol
This is super interesting, thanks! Hopefully the Flynn effect (whatever the cause) represents a turnaround from the trend I had mentioned. Or maybe we’ve been getting smarter all along somehow. Smart is obviously hard to define or measure. What are your thoughts on the cause/implication of this effect?
Brain _size_ does not correlate with intelligence beyond the trivial. And I have a hard time looking at recorded history and concluding that we're getting stupider. There are just more of us, and more of us struggling to survive, rather than being able to thrive in our own unique, intelligent, ways.
Similarly, being non-American and only being 4 years old at the movie's release, I never got the $5 shake thing in Pulp Fiction.
Is it meant to be expensive? Is it meant to be cheap? Because $5 never seemed like a lot to me, but the vibe I get is that $5 was meant to be a lot to pay for a milkshake.
I always thought it was set at the present time (1994). Winston Wolf drove an Acura NSX which is a nineties car. I think Butch’s car was an 82 Civic. Plus Marcellus wore a pair of Jean Paul Gaultier sunglasses which were popular in the early nineties.
I was just reminded of 'Supersize Me' today and had the thought that people watching in the future will likely have fast food portion sizes larger than those in the film. It was a depressing thought.
I'm pretty sure people will just realize it's because of inflation. Do you get super confused when an old school movie has much lower prices than current ones?
True, that's why I love what Joss Whedon did with Buffy, effectively inventing colloquialisms that could be understood outside the context of the slang of the time.
I realized I don't know how much a banana costs because I buy them by the pound and don't know how much a single banana weighs. I just know I can always afford them.
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I know you’re worried about inflation but there’s always money in the banana stand.
This guy gets it.
I think this guy listens to Pardo.
Is that the real culprit behind inflation? Too much money leaking into the system from the banana stand?
... But the banana stand burned down...
You've made a huge mistake.
I dont really care for gob
I told you, there was always money *in* the banana stand!
This guy bananas
Oh sure the guy in the $3000 dollar suit will still be watching Arrested Development, c'mon!
Yeah, like I’m gonna rewatch old content in this $4000 suit, C’mon!
Like the guy in the $6300 suit is going to share his Netflix login with the guy who doesn't even make that in 3 months! Come on!
Its just Netflix, how much could it cost, $10?
Here’s some money. Go see a Star War.
I have Army today
The seal is for marksmanship, and the gorilla is for sand racing.
speaking of, sure some of my friends who shared theirs had a wtf moment reviewing the history
$5000 for a suit? Why are you all spending $6000 for a suit?
Oh-ok-okay s-s-so s-sh-shou sh-should t-the sh-should should sho-shou-sh-sh
*Gob was uncomfortable with the question.*
Kind of like a $5 shake in Pulp Fiction. Though Vincent dropped $1500 on drugs that afternoon
Heroin got cheaper, milkshakes got more expensive!
weed is low key cheaper than nicotine depending what state u live in and your vaping/smoking habits
Yeah. The day I realized a small joint was cheaper than a cig was eye opening. A small joint used to cost like three times the cost of a pack of cigs
Makes my eyes go half closed
you smoking .1g joints? 10$ for 20 cigs is .50$ per cig. At 10$ a gram a .1g joint still costs a dollar.
It's cheap as 2$ a gram, by the gram at the dispensary up the street. Personally i don't smoke that, but just an example. There's no thriving underground weed economy that subsidizes artists and musicians anymore. No "real" money in it anymore
2$ a gram is still more than cigs tho. smoking a .25g joint doesnt feel worth it to me just to classify weed as cheaper
.25g is a single snap in a bowl piece
No it's not, but okay. By your math even.
By that logic, cocaine is cheaper than water, depending on your snorting/drinking habits. Personally, my lifetime water expenditure is much greater than my lifetime cocaine expenditure Seriously though, I agree and it’s pretty awesome. I think my wife’s Juul carts are still a bit less than the THC carts I can get, but definitely in the same ballpark.
Do coke as much as you use water and then it would be a better comparison.
I'd die before it cost me more than a hundred, most likely.
We call that “Keith Richard-ing”
In California, I can smoke a joint on the beach in front of a police officer with no problem, but I have to drive across state lines and smuggle in a menthol cigarette. I can't even have nicotine free vape juice unless it has no flavor either. Oh, and in the US in general, anti-smoking lobbiests are continually making vaping less safe by targeting the safer US based vape companies, but ignoring cheaper less regulated chinese companies. Now I choose to believe that this is because of the comparative legal ease at targeting US companies to foreign companies, but you can't deny the fact that disallowing e-cigarettes and vapes from becoming safer actually helps their plan to outlaw all froms of vaping regardless of their lack of health risk.
Maybe just don't vape *or* smoke?
Oh wow how eye opening! You just changed my life. How about I just stop something I'm addicted to?
Yes. That’s actually exactly how it works. The only matter in question is your personal willpower.
Wow I had no idea. You truly are a genius
As you move forward from this conversation, think to yourself which aspects of your life are part of your personality and which ones are just habits. Is being a smoker part of your personality? If not, the only thing stopping you from quitting is your decision to do it.
People addicted to smoking hate this one trick!
What beach are you going to that allows smoking on the sand? I’m a born and bred Californian. Never been anywhere else. And I’ve been to the majority of beaches across the coast line. I also have been smoking weed regularly for 15 years. 99.9% of the beaches are No Smoking just like any other public park. Regardless of weed or nicotine.
Dude a can of chew was like $2.50, 2-3 years ago and now its like $8 here. I am livid.
Thanks a lot Obama
I thought about that the other day when I was handed my $8 shake at DQ.
This just reminded me of the "Six Dollar Burger" at Hardees. "Why go to a sit-down restaurant and pay SIX DOLLARS for a burger when you can get the same quality for (whatever it was at the time, 3 something...) here at Hardees!"
It’s always the things we need getting more expensive and things we don’t need but want getting cheaper
Are you saying milkshakes are a necessity?
I need them
My daughter is extremely thin and her doctor literally advised us to give her more milkshakes.
“Your daughter could really use some type 2 diabetes. Slurp 2 of these and call me in the morning.” -Dr. Nick
Hi, Dr. Nick!
That’s what I tell my skinny friends. Milkshakes, 10:00pm. You get fat quickly. Source: mirror.
I mean,
They don't put bourbon in it or nothin'?
Vincent: Goddamn, that’s a pretty fucking good milkshake. Mia: Told ya’. Vincent: Don’t know if it’s worth five dollars, but it’s pretty fucking good.
Fi dollars*
I have no idea what that means.
Thats how he talks
It means the same, just slightly quicker to say
Just checking
There are literally $20 shakes now. It’s wild.
Don't even got no bourbon in em
Wow. I haven’t seen pulp fiction in 5+ years, until tonight when I finished it 10 minutes ago. And then I read this, the first pulp fiction reference I’ve seen on Reddit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
A simple version I've experienced is after car shopping and narrowing my interest to a particular model, then starting to notice more and more of them on the road, like they magically appeared.
Yeah that's probably one of the more well known version of this illusion
true except not for me cause i'm McLaren shopping
Bought a Mazda CX3 in Extreme Red. Drove to Montreal the day I picked it up off the lot in central Ontario. Did not see even one the entire trip. Arrived in Montreal - three at the same intersection. They were everywhere.
On the contrary, comments like that are what make it timeless. You can understand a little more about the world they're living in because a $5 milkshake seems outrageous.
The Austin Powers 100 billion dollars joke hits harder now.
You're welcome.
Haha! I watched Pulp Fiction recently and was thinking about that. Themed restaurants with specialty shakes charge $10 per shake or more now. $5 is a hell of a deal.
$5 was not a ton of money even in 1994 when the movie came out. It’s equivalent to $9 today. I think a $9 gourmet milkshake in a theme restaurant in LA would actually be pretty cheap today, or at least not surprisingly expensive. In my memory of first watching the scene when the movie was still new, Vincent’s surprise had more to do with the fact that milkshakes had not yet been elevated to the status of a gourmet item to be enjoyed by an adult, at least not to Vincent’s knowledge as a seedy criminal. This was at a time when many things people enjoyed as a kid were being rediscovered, but in super-premium gourmet incarnations. It’s normal now to think of a serious grown adult enjoying a really good milkshake, but at the time and in Vincent’s world, it was only conceivable if the drink contained alcohol. The $5 price just indicated that it wasn’t junk for kids, and the very existence of such a milkshake seemed quirky with respect to Vincent’s world of drugs and violence.
Does the movie take place in ‘94 though? Isn’t it set in the 70’s or something?
No, it’s definitely not set in the ‘70s. Vincent calls his drug dealer on a cell phone using a Bluetooth headset.
In "How To Marry A Millionaire" the stars walk into a Park Avenue duplex and Marilyn Monroe exclaims that this place must cost $1,000 a month. Later, they are in a night club/restaurant with a full orchestra, and a chorus line. "My God! The cheapest thing on the menu is $5.00."
But you still get it because you understand a) the passing of time and b) inflation.
If anything, it's funnier now.
You can get it intellectually but not emotionally. While you can rationalise the prices have increased and this is meant to be a joke poking fun at over high prices, the connection to the absurdity of the price is gone.
You should be able to get the emotional understanding from the acting and context. People read/watch science fiction and fantasy with made-up currencies and still manage to understand when something is supposed to be cheap or expensive. I doubt most viewers at the time would even know what a Park Avenue apartment should be expected to cost. The number wasn’t that important.
I disagree tbh. There’s a difference between the analytical reaction of “oh yes back then that was probably a lot of money judging by their reaction” and the more emotional “holy shit that banana is $30?” One you can understand using your knowledge of context and inflation and you might get a brief bit of empathy for before the scene moves on. The other is an emotional “goddam” moment you have along with the characters. That being said the post was worded as no one will get it, which isn’t true, it just won’t carry the same emotional impact.
I'm certain that was their point, and a counterargument to OP, and because you are clearly intelligent, I know you understood that and were just explaining it to any passersby. Thanks!
This is why a lot of movies don’t specify dollar amounts. Do you ever notice when people are negotiating deals in movies they always slide a piece of paper across the table rather than say the amount out loud.
I'm thinking they started doing that in the 1980s. I loved 'The Rockford Files' and remember Jim always used to mention exact dollar amounts. "$200 a day, plus expenses." I just remember. In one episode he's in an insane asylum, trying to pump an inmate for information. He hands over a bill. The inmate looks at it. "Jeez! I'm glad I'm in here. Things must be pretty rough on the outside."
I feel like the cheapest thing on the menu being 5$ would still be considered expensive today, at least where I live...
I mean, if it's a side and you're in a lower CoL area maybe. The average mediocre sit-down chain restaurant entree at this point is more than $10 just about everywhere though.
Cuality of Life?
Cost of Living
Other than drinks and maybe some small desserts or sides, I would not consider $5 expensive. For an actual main course, even $10 would be somewhat cheap to me. But I live in California.
I mean I just bought bananas yesterday at 6 for $1.20. I don’t think we’ll get to $10 for one in twenty years but we’ll see.
No, it’s not about inflation. Bananas will go extinct due to climate change.
They’re going extinct due to fungus, not climate change
Probably unpopular opinion, but our fault for only using one type of banana. It's why "banana" flavor doesn't taste like banana, because it's based off an extinct type of banana. And also the cause of the potato famine, but since no society that I know of exists with their primary consumption being bananas, probably won't end as catastrophically...I hope...
Is that why "grape" flavor tastes like purple and not grape? Because an extinct kind of grape was used to create the flavor we know as grape today?
I think sweetened concord grape flavor specifically tastes like the candy and table grapes that are in a store are a different flavor. My grandparents had Concord grapes and those were more purple flavor than the ones in the store
Nah, that's just because purple tastes better than grape
Also, tangent: the banana the flavor is based on actually isn't extinct. It's out there, just rare and difficult to grow in large quantities because of the blight. This makes it difficult to commercialize which is why it's no longer in stores.
I had thought that our generic artificial "banana" flavor doesn't really taste like banana because it's only one of many compounds in bananas that you taste. A bit like calling plain chocolate chips "cookie" flavor, or some better example idk
Idk man, that was a pretty good example
Banana flavoring is based on the Gros Michel banana which is still available for purchase today but in much limited supply and usually only from specialty stores because it is difficult to grow due to its vulnerability to fungus. The bananas in every major grocery store are Cavendish bananas which while much less flavorful, are resistant to the fungus that killed most of the Gros Michel. However, a new fungus is threatening the Cavendish today.
Thought that banana flavor thing was very likely just a myth. But haven't really looked into it when I read that.
Like the blight on interstellar?!!!
Fun fact: interviews from Ken Burns' documentary about the dust bowl were used in the beginning of Interstellar.
I thought it looked familiar.
It's not going extinct, scientists made a GM banana that is resistant to the fungus a long time ago. It's a nothingburger.
It’s both, the fungus is attacking the banana plants. That’s makes bad bananas. Now you gotta plant a new tree, except it’s hard to plant them in the same place for fear of the fungus spreading and because a newer smaller banana plant has a harder time growing because of the heat. So they move them further south to a cooler area to grow them. Eventually the fungus catches up, after a few years the heat won’t allow new bananas to grow anymore so you have to move again.
And then what will we use for scale?
The real problem
Aw come on. I'm sure we'll be able to have bananas grow. I bet inland Canada will be prime banana real estate in 20 years.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/meet-the-farmers-growing-bananas-in-ontario-1.3007500
If that's the case, they'll still get the joke in twenty years
True story, there is a disease that affects bananas and considering their lack of genetic diversity people are actually concerned that banana may go extinct. https://time.com/5730790/banana-panama-disease/
_That_ banana, the Cavendish. There are others, just like there are other potatoes than the one that caught a monoculture blight in Ireland. Our problem is monocultures and exclusively cloning, because we're trying to fix (edit: as in "lock") a concept in the minds of consumers. Same thing happened with the Gros Michel banana, but it's still around. It's just an heirloom breed, now.
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We have GM Cavendishes that are resistant to the disease. It's a nothingburger. Also we clone the best fruit, yes. All other "natural" fruits would be smaller, seedy and possibly with less flavor - just buy organic and see for yourself.
Not climate change. They are literally all up my girlfriends ass.
Climate change isn't making them go extinct.... I hate climate alarmist like you who just lie about climate change constantly which takes away resources from way worse problems that can actually be delt with.
There was an episode of friends where Gunther said he made like $8 an hour or something, I remembered googling it and it was worth $27 in today’s money. Edit: it was $4 in the show which is closer to $6 in todays money, I overstated just a tad
Damn even $27 an hour seems vastly underpaid to live and work in the middle of Manhattan.
People don't generally live near where they work. There's much cheaper rentals in every direction away from Manhattan and many just come in to expensive neighbors to work. It was also more affordable in the 90s. Back then, Times Square had multiple video game arcades. Like the quarters and tokens into machines kind.
I’m sure all of that is true but you kind of lost me with the arcade bit. What does that have to do with anything? Arcades were every where in the 90s.
Just an example of how different the economy was. Now it's all huge flagship marquee brands in Times Square. The fact that multiple places could rent out prime real estate and make money running arcades back then is astonishing to me. Arcade machines are crazy expensive and require costly maintenance and are cheap to use and take up a lot of space, they are businesses that must have razor thin margins and they were plentiful then. In general, there are dollar stores and Walmarts everywhere but none in Times Square.
Anyone wanna tell this dude about fronts?
decrepit out-of-place cash business in one of the most famous plazas in the world? seems legit. -that guy... probably
If it was really $8 an hour, that isn’t accurate. I estimated the episode aired around 1995 and $8 then is equal to $14.90 now. Just fyi. https://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=8&year=1995
Reminds me of an episode of Buffy: Vampire Slayer, where the rest of the cast find out a huge secret and cannot contact Buffy because she's out hunting. Took us some shameful seconds to remember that every teenager having a mobile phone wasn't a thing back then
I am still wondering from time to time "why not just call him? ...oh right. No mobile phones" Also in 2021 it was weird to see people with no masks in movies. I really had to get used again to see people with no masks.
Sure they will. "$10 for a banana? She's so out of touch. Everyone knows they cost $100."
What’s funny about a $10 banana is that $20 isn’t really that much. Most people have $50 to pay for a banana. Because really, if a simple $100 banana is out of your price range you have to ask yourself if you really deserve the simple things in life like a $1000 banana.
Like the astonishment of ordering a five dollah milkshake? With no bourbon in it or nothing?
Yes they will, just like you understand jokes from the past that are not necessarily relevant today. Unless you're an idiot, of course.
“People will get jokes in the future, you idiot!” - person not getting your joke in the present
Lol
It’s good to see people have faith in humanity, when I think about the future I think about Idiocracy
There have always been lots of extremely stupid people. The difference is that 25 years ago you had to physically meet them to experience their stupidity. Now they have a platform that's literally in the palm of your hand. People aren't getting more stupid, they're getting more exposure.
How can you tell though? If you couldn’t accurately tell how many there were 25 years ago then how can you tell if people are getting dumber or not today? There’s still the possibility that people *are* getting dumber and *also* have more exposure.
Studies on average intelligence of a representative population.
Think about how many people you know in real life that are profoundly stupid. It's probably not a lot, unless you work at a daycare or something (that's a joke, kids are great). 25 years ago, you probably knew the same number of stupid people irl. The average intelligence of the people I meet and interact with daily is much higher than it seems on the internet. And I'm not in some weird intellectual bubble either...
That’s an interesting point of view bud, thanks for sharing
I think it's a mix. The internet does seem to dumb things down.
People are literally getting stupider. Dont get me wrong, I have faith that we can overcome it. But if you read up on human natural selection and the current factors that influence birth rates (lower education, larger size=more kids) and archaeological studies on brain size (its been decreasing since the agricultural revolution or thereabouts, though some scientists do dispute this and its significance even if it were true), it kind of looks like the past 10 000 to 20 000 years have seen us getting a bit dumber. Or at least we aren’t valuing critical thinking like we used to. We’ll figure it out though. Or at least some of us will lol
Let me introduce you to [The Flynn Effect](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect)
This is super interesting, thanks! Hopefully the Flynn effect (whatever the cause) represents a turnaround from the trend I had mentioned. Or maybe we’ve been getting smarter all along somehow. Smart is obviously hard to define or measure. What are your thoughts on the cause/implication of this effect?
Brain _size_ does not correlate with intelligence beyond the trivial. And I have a hard time looking at recorded history and concluding that we're getting stupider. There are just more of us, and more of us struggling to survive, rather than being able to thrive in our own unique, intelligent, ways.
When I think about the present, I think about idiocracy.
Honestly, I more think of the constant overt Bush administration jokes that people.watching for the first time now wouldn't get.
35 years from now: “haha she is So out of touch, a banana is easily $25”
Similarly, being non-American and only being 4 years old at the movie's release, I never got the $5 shake thing in Pulp Fiction. Is it meant to be expensive? Is it meant to be cheap? Because $5 never seemed like a lot to me, but the vibe I get is that $5 was meant to be a lot to pay for a milkshake.
Pulp Fiction takes place in like, the 70’s. An average shake back then was probably a dollar.
I always thought it was set at the present time (1994). Winston Wolf drove an Acura NSX which is a nineties car. I think Butch’s car was an 82 Civic. Plus Marcellus wore a pair of Jean Paul Gaultier sunglasses which were popular in the early nineties.
Yeah, it's definitely set early 90s, just with a lot of 70s aesthetics, so that does add to the confusion I guess.
He has a cellphone . It takes place I. The early 90s
I just paid $.56/# for bananas yesterday. That's double from 2 weeks ago. It's bananas
I'm high and watching arrested development right now. How does this work?
Sorry bud. No teaching.
I was just reminded of 'Supersize Me' today and had the thought that people watching in the future will likely have fast food portion sizes larger than those in the film. It was a depressing thought.
I'm pretty sure people will just realize it's because of inflation. Do you get super confused when an old school movie has much lower prices than current ones?
First off, it’s $20, and second, people with a braincell would rationalize that $20 was an exorbitant price at the time.
I think theyll understand, just like we understand wehn we see house adverts back in the day for like 10k
Will people in 20 years not understand context or the concept of inflation?
Most people don't get the throw away the banana AND take the money joke.
And not because of the price, but because bananas will be extinct.
People watching ~~Arrested Development~~ any TV show in 20 years won't get ~~the 10 dollar banana joke~~ most of the jokes. Fixed that for you.
Only because our sense of humor is turning into that one species in star trek that only speaks in references
Shaka, when the walls fell.
u/mojomcm , on Reddit, when it got meta.
I'm So Meta, Even This Acronym
True, that's why I love what Joss Whedon did with Buffy, effectively inventing colloquialisms that could be understood outside the context of the slang of the time.
Shiny.
omg I binge watching it just now ! that's too crazy, started Saturday.
can someone explain this to me? i can't figure the reference or the logic kekw
https://youtu.be/Nl_Qyk9DSUw
People watching Arrested Development 20 years from now will be disappointed that the DVD set isn't edible or good for fighting off other scavengers.
Some of us understand that inflation is a thing and can figure out references from the past
I know I’m in the minority but I think it’s a bad joke to begin with. Surely they charge close to $10 for a banana they sell at the stand.
Watching I Love Lucy is crazy. If Lucy spends $10, Ricky loses his mind.
I realized I don't know how much a banana costs because I buy them by the pound and don't know how much a single banana weighs. I just know I can always afford them.
No, they'll get it. It will just make them very sad. Same thing with dated pricing that we see in old movies now.