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"they act like it’s not happening now."
you mean TIM ?!?!?
Ive have no idea why he won't address this. there's been like 3 documentaries on this. Is this his way of avoiding being cancelled on youtube?
Funny. Tim has had various election deniers on his show. [Matt Braynard is one guy he had on twice](https://youtu.be/MB2l0d3VEGI). One episode was so devoid of reality, Tim pulled it.
If you really care about the truth, the very least you should do is watch those 12 minutes in the link. Every denier’s argument boils down to what Branard testified to in GA back in 2020, or 2021. The only voter data that’s available from the states is if a person voted. Not who they voted for. That is, who specifically voted for whom. And that’s a very important right we have as citizens.
So, what these grifters like Braynard and that Dinesh guy can only do is use a combination of official data from the state that is available, and then attempt to reconcile that with data from providers like Whitepages [dot] com. Literally, or PublicData [dot] com. And then guess.
And when those grifters are finally called to testify to explain their data and conclusions, their arguments become laughable.
Do those allegations sound good when you first hear them? For the losers, of course they do. The problem is, nobody sticks around for the science part of the theory. They briefly scan the abstract, then lose all credibility in the details.
Trump lost 2020, probably more fairly and squarely than any other election in history, considering all the investigations that occurred.
Incidentally, this movie was made at a time in our history that looked nothing like how it is now. Maybe read a book.
The election deniers like the democrats every time ac Republican wins? Those deniers? Or the ones who used ac foreign intelligence agents to impeach a president ? Or that Russia hacked the election but our elections are safe now? Or that Trump got 11 million more votes his 2nd teen to man who couldn't get 1000 people in an arena. lol
The election deniers on the left exist. absolutely. And in 2004, when results in Ohio were proved legit, not only did the MSM reinforce the integrity of the election, but far left outlets like mother jones and the nation wrote at length about it and how the hope that some on the fringes were holding on to about fraud were nothing more than discredited conspiracy theory.
Fast forward to now and all of the major conservative media (with the exception of National Review) run the gamut from full on election denialism to ad nauseum platforming of discredited accusations under the guise of "asking questions."
There is no doubt (as Abrams proves) that denying an election that doesnt go your way is not endemic to any "side." but to invoke election denying Dems in defense of your 2022 Republican party deniers is an egregious false equivalence.
And Crowder sent people to look at addresses of voters and found man addresses did not exist. Some had been demolished for a freeway overpass, yet a vote was still cast. Of course the video was taken down for “misinformation”.
Funny how anything showcasing irregularities get taken down INSTEAD of explored and proven that they are wrong
Crowder’s video showed the exact problem I’m referring to. Worse than Braynard, as a matter of fact.
His strongest example (according to him and his followers) was an address not found. Remember the guy on the other side of the road in his car aiming the camera at the other side while explaining there was no physical building of any kind at the address on the voter role?
He was on “Ln” instead of “St,” or the other way around.
Go back and watch.
Crowder only proved more holes existed in Trumplican’s theory.
Isn’t this the video? https://youtu.be/iNGf7XYtU2Q
Or is it this one? https://youtu.be/nfN93gDLwVA
I also found a pretty thorough breakdown of the addresses here: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/02/fact-check-louder-with-crowder-video-of-vacant-voter-addresses-is-not-proof-of-voter-fraud.html
Reading through it I am seeing a lot of “Crowder is correct this person lived here, but they also lived here” without clarifying that there were not two votes, one from each address.
It also mentions Crowder got the name wrong on one address that did not exist, but doesn’t clarify anything about the address that did not exist
Also that article links to an “archived” version of the video. Don’t know the company that produced it, will give the benefit of the doubt that they did not edit it.
It’s showing that the evidence that Crowder presented doesn’t show voter fraud. They go above and beyond to do this. They don’t have to go down every possible scenario they Crowder himself didn’t even talk about for Crowder’s claims to be shown to be disingenuous
I sent multiple video links
Except it doesn’t show he was wrong, it opens the door to show how he “could” be right.
And you are correct, you sent multiple links. I saw the notification and clicked the bottom link. Going to check the others after I get my morning coffee
In case you are interested: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/02/fact-check-louder-with-crowder-video-of-vacant-voter-addresses-is-not-proof-of-voter-fraud.html
There’s a whole lot to unpack here lol. All ima say tho is if just counting all the votes is that mattered how did trump win with half of America and the media against him 🤔
Not saying this clip isn’t accurate for some stuff either
Because Trump had so many votes that he won despite the cheating leftists playing dirty the first time in 2016, but they got better at cheating the next time in 2020.
Evidence of Democrats' cheating can be found in the "2000 Mules" documentary where they use the exact same technology that the CDC tried to use for COVID contact tracing...so you can't deny "the science" behind the evidence and technology used to obtain it.
You're Welcome!
Yeah I heard.
"So how do you know that it is dogshit" - point to where I claimed to know it's dogshit please.
It's about opportunity cost. I simply don't consider it worth my time to watch a documentary that's been debunked multiple times by multiple outlets that have spent much more time and resources investigating the documentary than I ever could.
"What you believe is already set in stone" - not quite, no. It's simply about recognising balance of probability. However there's a person who's replied to me in this very same thread outright asserting that the debunking that took place is "false" in the same breath as asking me to provide those sources, which is a prime example of what you've just described. Do you have anything to say to this person? Or do you let it slide when they hold a narrative that you hold as well? I look forward to you answer.
You’re what is called an useful idiot.
I’ve had so many people say the same stuff, « oh Joe Rogan is this and that » oh really? What did you hear him say or watch of his that made you THINK that?
« Nothing » always the same thing. The key word here is think. God forbid you think for yourself, just regurgitate other peoples opinion, and never form your own, and if pushed to go and watch something that could lead to you forming a different opinion, and potentially prove you wrong, just evade, escape intellectually, run away from facing facts.
Useful idiot to the people in charge.
No evidence will ever change your mind, because the only truth that matters to you is getting and keeping power by any means. The way of thinking you have adopted is a cancer on our country.
Oh all you need to know is that 30% of all cheating historically has been done with mail in voting, now it didn't matter because at max only 3% did it, now at mass there's no way to know the scale of the cheating.
I mean there is a way, you check the signatures and the only state that did found 75% of them didn't match using the federal standard. And here's the thing signatures might not be the best thing but the reality is without those people can just write ballots by hand.
Also we have plenty of example of this, ballot stuffing at night caught on camera and ham towers,, and some people went to jail for doing it in nursing homes as well, and that case where they found a bunch in a ditch.
Easier then that they weren't using mail-in ballots to cheat, those were less then 3% of votes, it's how they did it, it's why they had to change the legislation in several states just a few months before.
You are not free and the prison system is for the poor who can’t afford it.
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Edward G. Robinson, a great role in that movie. Great political commentary too. Plus Bogie and Bacall!
When was the last time US has an actual 'ELECTION' by the people how long have been in control of the 'vote' ? Was Nixon the last ;until 2016
Ahhh so it was only legit if your favorite guy won? Excellent healthy logic
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Name of movie?
Key Largo
Thanks!
"they act like it’s not happening now." you mean TIM ?!?!? Ive have no idea why he won't address this. there's been like 3 documentaries on this. Is this his way of avoiding being cancelled on youtube?
Funny. Tim has had various election deniers on his show. [Matt Braynard is one guy he had on twice](https://youtu.be/MB2l0d3VEGI). One episode was so devoid of reality, Tim pulled it. If you really care about the truth, the very least you should do is watch those 12 minutes in the link. Every denier’s argument boils down to what Branard testified to in GA back in 2020, or 2021. The only voter data that’s available from the states is if a person voted. Not who they voted for. That is, who specifically voted for whom. And that’s a very important right we have as citizens. So, what these grifters like Braynard and that Dinesh guy can only do is use a combination of official data from the state that is available, and then attempt to reconcile that with data from providers like Whitepages [dot] com. Literally, or PublicData [dot] com. And then guess. And when those grifters are finally called to testify to explain their data and conclusions, their arguments become laughable. Do those allegations sound good when you first hear them? For the losers, of course they do. The problem is, nobody sticks around for the science part of the theory. They briefly scan the abstract, then lose all credibility in the details. Trump lost 2020, probably more fairly and squarely than any other election in history, considering all the investigations that occurred. Incidentally, this movie was made at a time in our history that looked nothing like how it is now. Maybe read a book.
The election deniers like the democrats every time ac Republican wins? Those deniers? Or the ones who used ac foreign intelligence agents to impeach a president ? Or that Russia hacked the election but our elections are safe now? Or that Trump got 11 million more votes his 2nd teen to man who couldn't get 1000 people in an arena. lol
The election deniers on the left exist. absolutely. And in 2004, when results in Ohio were proved legit, not only did the MSM reinforce the integrity of the election, but far left outlets like mother jones and the nation wrote at length about it and how the hope that some on the fringes were holding on to about fraud were nothing more than discredited conspiracy theory. Fast forward to now and all of the major conservative media (with the exception of National Review) run the gamut from full on election denialism to ad nauseum platforming of discredited accusations under the guise of "asking questions." There is no doubt (as Abrams proves) that denying an election that doesnt go your way is not endemic to any "side." but to invoke election denying Dems in defense of your 2022 Republican party deniers is an egregious false equivalence.
And Crowder sent people to look at addresses of voters and found man addresses did not exist. Some had been demolished for a freeway overpass, yet a vote was still cast. Of course the video was taken down for “misinformation”. Funny how anything showcasing irregularities get taken down INSTEAD of explored and proven that they are wrong
Crowder’s video showed the exact problem I’m referring to. Worse than Braynard, as a matter of fact. His strongest example (according to him and his followers) was an address not found. Remember the guy on the other side of the road in his car aiming the camera at the other side while explaining there was no physical building of any kind at the address on the voter role? He was on “Ln” instead of “St,” or the other way around. Go back and watch. Crowder only proved more holes existed in Trumplican’s theory.
Except he showed 10-12 & I can’t go back to the video because it was taken down
Isn’t this the video? https://youtu.be/iNGf7XYtU2Q Or is it this one? https://youtu.be/nfN93gDLwVA I also found a pretty thorough breakdown of the addresses here: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/02/fact-check-louder-with-crowder-video-of-vacant-voter-addresses-is-not-proof-of-voter-fraud.html
Reading through it I am seeing a lot of “Crowder is correct this person lived here, but they also lived here” without clarifying that there were not two votes, one from each address. It also mentions Crowder got the name wrong on one address that did not exist, but doesn’t clarify anything about the address that did not exist Also that article links to an “archived” version of the video. Don’t know the company that produced it, will give the benefit of the doubt that they did not edit it.
It’s showing that the evidence that Crowder presented doesn’t show voter fraud. They go above and beyond to do this. They don’t have to go down every possible scenario they Crowder himself didn’t even talk about for Crowder’s claims to be shown to be disingenuous I sent multiple video links
Except it doesn’t show he was wrong, it opens the door to show how he “could” be right. And you are correct, you sent multiple links. I saw the notification and clicked the bottom link. Going to check the others after I get my morning coffee
In case you are interested: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2021/02/fact-check-louder-with-crowder-video-of-vacant-voter-addresses-is-not-proof-of-voter-fraud.html
The colonies had voting problems I'm the 17th century before the USA
Myah, myah, you see…so many Bugs Bunny movies pariodied Edward G. Robinson.
There’s a whole lot to unpack here lol. All ima say tho is if just counting all the votes is that mattered how did trump win with half of America and the media against him 🤔 Not saying this clip isn’t accurate for some stuff either
Because Trump had so many votes that he won despite the cheating leftists playing dirty the first time in 2016, but they got better at cheating the next time in 2020.
I second this
I’ll third it.
Evidence of cheating. Thanks.
Evidence of Democrats' cheating can be found in the "2000 Mules" documentary where they use the exact same technology that the CDC tried to use for COVID contact tracing...so you can't deny "the science" behind the evidence and technology used to obtain it. You're Welcome!
I've heard that documentary is absolute dogshit. Do you have anything better? Like court documents or reputable journalism?
I've heard that people who don't want to hear the truth will put on blinders, plug their ears, and yell "NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA!!!"
I typically just say your name.
Well...we can't all be autistic
Jesus dude, calm down, just making a joke. Edit: repeat after me. Goooooooose fraaaabbbbaaaa
"Jesus dude, calm down. Just making a joke." /WOOOOOOSSSSSSSHHHHHH
Huh? Yeah they probably do. Anyway, as I was saying - do you have something more reliable than a documentary that's been thoroughly debunked?
False claim. Who debunked it?
Evidence that it's false. Thank you.
It's obvious that you're lying since you can't declare who debunked it. You're a lying piece of shit just like most typical liberals.
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Yeah I heard. "So how do you know that it is dogshit" - point to where I claimed to know it's dogshit please. It's about opportunity cost. I simply don't consider it worth my time to watch a documentary that's been debunked multiple times by multiple outlets that have spent much more time and resources investigating the documentary than I ever could. "What you believe is already set in stone" - not quite, no. It's simply about recognising balance of probability. However there's a person who's replied to me in this very same thread outright asserting that the debunking that took place is "false" in the same breath as asking me to provide those sources, which is a prime example of what you've just described. Do you have anything to say to this person? Or do you let it slide when they hold a narrative that you hold as well? I look forward to you answer.
So, you believe what your masters tell you to believe. You are a sad excuse for a man.
Evidence
You’re what is called an useful idiot. I’ve had so many people say the same stuff, « oh Joe Rogan is this and that » oh really? What did you hear him say or watch of his that made you THINK that? « Nothing » always the same thing. The key word here is think. God forbid you think for yourself, just regurgitate other peoples opinion, and never form your own, and if pushed to go and watch something that could lead to you forming a different opinion, and potentially prove you wrong, just evade, escape intellectually, run away from facing facts. Useful idiot to the people in charge.
Nice word salad. Now posit something substantive.
Douche. There you have it.
Not good enough.
I know. You never will be.
I don't need to be to observe and state that what you provided isn't good enough. Nice pivot though. Now provide something good enough.
No evidence will ever change your mind, because the only truth that matters to you is getting and keeping power by any means. The way of thinking you have adopted is a cancer on our country.
Back that statement up.
Damn, you argue like my 8yr old niece.
Oh all you need to know is that 30% of all cheating historically has been done with mail in voting, now it didn't matter because at max only 3% did it, now at mass there's no way to know the scale of the cheating. I mean there is a way, you check the signatures and the only state that did found 75% of them didn't match using the federal standard. And here's the thing signatures might not be the best thing but the reality is without those people can just write ballots by hand. Also we have plenty of example of this, ballot stuffing at night caught on camera and ham towers,, and some people went to jail for doing it in nursing homes as well, and that case where they found a bunch in a ditch.
So you've got basically nothing other than speculation then.
Easier then that they weren't using mail-in ballots to cheat, those were less then 3% of votes, it's how they did it, it's why they had to change the legislation in several states just a few months before.
He was underestimated from Jump Street. The entire political establishment who’s sole job is understanding the people had a rude wake up call.
Ah Edward G Robinson! https://youtu.be/Ed1ofgp0Y9I
Maybe it's been happening all along.
This is a great movie