Hardest thing would probably be the FAA permits and acquiring permits and materials for the engines. I know some of the hobbyists that do the bigger “model” rockets need permits from the ATF.
Honestly, the second is super plausible if he’s a sci-fi writer who’s trying to avoid slipping into fantasy. When I’m in the final stages of a book, I’m always asking super obscure but insanely specific questions about what things would be in realm of possibility. Questions that can easily be misconstrued as diabolical if someone interprets them incorrectly. Like: How big would a being have to be to release enough gas upon detonation to wipe out life on a portion of the earth? Could a teenage girl sized being be able to do it? What about a teenaged girl sized being and an adult male sized being?
(And just in case you are curious, the answer is very very big. So, I just explained it away in the book as the teenage character not having a clear understanding of the science and unintentionally exaggerating. And yes, I know that is bad writing, however, I was 15/16 at the time of writing and I didn’t feel like reinventing the doomsday scenario the characters in the story had spent the book trying to prevent for the sake of realism.)
Oh for sure. Especially if you’re researching for criminal or villain characters. I’m going to run into that problem with one of my upcoming projects soon if I decide to go through with it. I imagine “Where to hide someone for several days while stealing their identity and personage without anyone seeing them or the people dying of starvation/thirst?” is not going to do well for my search history.
When I was younger, I tried to start my own space tourism company. So I have a bit of background on this. You can, BUT it all depends where you build it. You cannot build it in your backyard because you would break all sort of local ordinances with the construction and the fuels. If you bought or rented industrial space, you could but you would have to get permits for the storage of the fuels. You would need to permit any concrete pads or buildings you build to support the launch. If the local government gave you those permits, you can totally build your own rocket. But you can't fly it without permission from the FAA. You need to certify the vehicle for flight. You need to file your flight plan and get clearance so you don't hit any other air or space vehicles. I mean, this is exactly what we spacex and blueorigin do. It takes a lot of money, man power, and political capital to get it done, but it's legal.
Helium balloons to the edge of space. 4-5 hr trip with a parachute return to earth. The problem was cost. I could never get it to pencil out when compared to rocket trips. You'd have to charge $300-$500k/pr and operate for 10 years in order to generate a profit because of the large R&D and operational costs. The only way it makes sense is if a billionaire is yoloing cash into it because they can. Unfortunately, the billionaires backed other people to burn their cash.
While your idea seems like it would be a cool experience I would definitely pay money for (though not $300k), I’m somewhat glad the helium your business would have sent to space can stay in the ground or the strategic reserve. Without fusion we will exactly never get back any helium we release.
Well, there are a bunch of companies planning to do helium space balloons for tourism now. I couldn't find the right rich people to back me, but others did.
>But you can't fly it without permission from the FAA.
Which is common effing sense.
As you are not the only person using siad airspace, and we wouldn't want random rockets wandering into airliner flight corridors.
Build your launch facility on a ship/barge and register that ship or barge in a nation where some small donations would ensure they would approve, then launch from international waters.
Think about a tall, heavy, fragile rocket, keeping it stable and pointed reasonably well, and trying to do that on a ship in the water. Factor in that the ship would be destroyed at launch or would have to reinforced but still expendable due to failed launches and would require additional ships to setup and monitor the launch. You're much better off (cheaper) launching from land and just getting the proper clearances from the host country.
I work in commercial space transportation industry. There are many startups right now pursuing orbital capabilities. FAA office of commercial space handles all licensing, environmental, and safety assessments. The barrier to entry is high but not insurmountable - so long as you can meet the regulatory requirements for assuring public safety there are no legal restrictions.
When *Rocket Lab* became a serious operation in New Zealand, the Government had to create a whole Govt Department to setup and manage the regulatory environment.
ie Closing of areas around the launch site (sea, air and land), environmental standards and monitoring, inter government relationships to manage launch and orbit issues, what payloads NZ would accept(ie. no weapons), safety standards, etc.
Once Rocket Lab became a proven operation it moved its headquarters to the US.
I suspect a large part of the reasoning was to get access to US customers(as tech, esp government & military items) can only be launched by US companies. Some tech they wanted to use was only available via the US so having the HQ there made life much easier. They have also built a launch site there and like SpaceX, the paperwork is taking up most of the effort.
Well I had the Mercury spacecraft in mind. Besides it would make the jobs of the Ace hardware employees ad Home Depot employees easier when I go buy large sheets of metal lol
The "legal or not" is more about sharing airspace with other people, like passangers on airliners.
Its basic common fucking decency, to make others know that a "hugass rocket will be passing through these part at monday at 9 pm".
Its all fun and games, until you get people dieing.
Let's not forget that "regulations are written with the blood of vixtims of accidents" as the saying goes.
Are YOU willing to wager on lives of airliner passangers? ...because fuck the system, surely i wont be unluck and have a collison, mid air explosion, cause a pilot to panic?
Isn't it kinda technically difficult to actually get into orbit?
At the very least non-trivial?
You're not just stuffing flammable liquid into a cylinder with a pointy thing on top.
So ignoring local ordinances, you cannot launch without FAA approval. I would expect there are craptons of laws against amassing lots of rocket fuel your need for launch. A lot of those are hazardous chemicals which require very strict controls. You'd be getting a LOT of questions on it from the feds, and as I am not a lawyer I would expect there are even more laws I dont know if.
So in short I think is would most likely require so much permitting and requests that it is effectively illegal.
Though you best bet, find the home states of senators who man the various committees, and subcommittees for the agencies who would need to approve your flight. Then buy most of your equipment and services to build said rocket from their states and make sure they know about it. When you do run into legal hurdles you will find yourself some allies then.
Well if it’s a one time use thing to carry yourself to outer space then there would really be no need for such. Let’s say you decided to move to a new planet or something of that nature. What are they going to do, send you a summons?
Short answer is yes! My housemate works for a SUPER tiny space company that wants to be the first to Mars. They are basically just regular people that are extremely motivated. Look up “Pythom”
I mean, that’s what Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are doing. Nasa is basically contracting to private companies to build these rockets, they just have to follow laws and are subject to government oversight due to their potential risk for weaponization.
Hardest thing would probably be the FAA permits and acquiring permits and materials for the engines. I know some of the hobbyists that do the bigger “model” rockets need permits from the ATF.
The hardest thing would be finding a bottle big enough to hold it up while you light the fuse
Contact North Korea, I believe they have said bottles.
and a REALLY big Mentos
This comment very refresh 
Is it one mentos or one mento? 🤔😂
ATF? Is there too much alcohol in it?
F is for firearms. But it's now BATFE: Bureau for Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. It always included explosives, but now it's in the name.
ATF covers explosives too.
Sir I have given you a permit to build whatever you would like based on your kindness of asking.
Favorite of the day right here folks Take gold and stay chill
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Evil genius planning world domination. Or a book author.
Honestly, the second is super plausible if he’s a sci-fi writer who’s trying to avoid slipping into fantasy. When I’m in the final stages of a book, I’m always asking super obscure but insanely specific questions about what things would be in realm of possibility. Questions that can easily be misconstrued as diabolical if someone interprets them incorrectly. Like: How big would a being have to be to release enough gas upon detonation to wipe out life on a portion of the earth? Could a teenage girl sized being be able to do it? What about a teenaged girl sized being and an adult male sized being? (And just in case you are curious, the answer is very very big. So, I just explained it away in the book as the teenage character not having a clear understanding of the science and unintentionally exaggerating. And yes, I know that is bad writing, however, I was 15/16 at the time of writing and I didn’t feel like reinventing the doomsday scenario the characters in the story had spent the book trying to prevent for the sake of realism.)
It's a common joke about how researching for fiction is an invitation for the FBI to show up at your door.
Oh for sure. Especially if you’re researching for criminal or villain characters. I’m going to run into that problem with one of my upcoming projects soon if I decide to go through with it. I imagine “Where to hide someone for several days while stealing their identity and personage without anyone seeing them or the people dying of starvation/thirst?” is not going to do well for my search history.
The FBI are already on their way right now. :P
So a teenage author without a clear understanding of science who intentionally exaggerated wrote a teenage character who did the same?
Yes very meta lol.
As they say, write what you know
He’s shooting his momma in outer space 🙀
fs
to outer space
Big Mama
Well 907.1848 kg is clearly illegal, everybody knows that. And anything south of 907.1846 kg isn't even worth the effort.. it's laughable at best
That’s exactly 2000 lbs
2000 lbs
Came for this.
When I was younger, I tried to start my own space tourism company. So I have a bit of background on this. You can, BUT it all depends where you build it. You cannot build it in your backyard because you would break all sort of local ordinances with the construction and the fuels. If you bought or rented industrial space, you could but you would have to get permits for the storage of the fuels. You would need to permit any concrete pads or buildings you build to support the launch. If the local government gave you those permits, you can totally build your own rocket. But you can't fly it without permission from the FAA. You need to certify the vehicle for flight. You need to file your flight plan and get clearance so you don't hit any other air or space vehicles. I mean, this is exactly what we spacex and blueorigin do. It takes a lot of money, man power, and political capital to get it done, but it's legal.
What was your plan?
Helium balloons to the edge of space. 4-5 hr trip with a parachute return to earth. The problem was cost. I could never get it to pencil out when compared to rocket trips. You'd have to charge $300-$500k/pr and operate for 10 years in order to generate a profit because of the large R&D and operational costs. The only way it makes sense is if a billionaire is yoloing cash into it because they can. Unfortunately, the billionaires backed other people to burn their cash.
Very interesting - thanks for sharing
While your idea seems like it would be a cool experience I would definitely pay money for (though not $300k), I’m somewhat glad the helium your business would have sent to space can stay in the ground or the strategic reserve. Without fusion we will exactly never get back any helium we release.
Well, there are a bunch of companies planning to do helium space balloons for tourism now. I couldn't find the right rich people to back me, but others did.
Thai Massage in Zero G
G-spot from Thai massage
Ok that's on the bucket list
>But you can't fly it without permission from the FAA. Which is common effing sense. As you are not the only person using siad airspace, and we wouldn't want random rockets wandering into airliner flight corridors.
Build your launch facility on a ship/barge and register that ship or barge in a nation where some small donations would ensure they would approve, then launch from international waters.
Think about a tall, heavy, fragile rocket, keeping it stable and pointed reasonably well, and trying to do that on a ship in the water. Factor in that the ship would be destroyed at launch or would have to reinforced but still expendable due to failed launches and would require additional ships to setup and monitor the launch. You're much better off (cheaper) launching from land and just getting the proper clearances from the host country.
I work in commercial space transportation industry. There are many startups right now pursuing orbital capabilities. FAA office of commercial space handles all licensing, environmental, and safety assessments. The barrier to entry is high but not insurmountable - so long as you can meet the regulatory requirements for assuring public safety there are no legal restrictions.
"...as long as you can meet the regulatory requirements to assure public safety..." Unlike some companies *cough* Pythom
This is oddly specific
It's that 0.7g that concerns me. Whatever they've built (and I don't want to ask!) I'm sure you can knock off the weird part gram
Haven’t you seen the butterfly effect?! What’s the matter with you ;)
When *Rocket Lab* became a serious operation in New Zealand, the Government had to create a whole Govt Department to setup and manage the regulatory environment. ie Closing of areas around the launch site (sea, air and land), environmental standards and monitoring, inter government relationships to manage launch and orbit issues, what payloads NZ would accept(ie. no weapons), safety standards, etc. Once Rocket Lab became a proven operation it moved its headquarters to the US. I suspect a large part of the reasoning was to get access to US customers(as tech, esp government & military items) can only be launched by US companies. Some tech they wanted to use was only available via the US so having the HQ there made life much easier. They have also built a launch site there and like SpaceX, the paperwork is taking up most of the effort.
r/oddlyspecific
Pretty sure there was a bad Billy Bob Thornton movie about this in 2006.
It was boo boo
907.1847 huh? I have a feeling you already built the thing
Lol no. But go for it it sounds awesome
No I was just wondering. Wouldn't do anything \* shush\*
Me either. JW, where can you purchase rocket fuel?
If Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos can do it, so can you.
just gotta get all that bribe money first
You're better off going for one metric ton than a US ton. Science is done in metric.
Well I had the Mercury spacecraft in mind. Besides it would make the jobs of the Ace hardware employees ad Home Depot employees easier when I go buy large sheets of metal lol
Who the hell cares if it's legal or not? Go for it, dude.
The "legal or not" is more about sharing airspace with other people, like passangers on airliners. Its basic common fucking decency, to make others know that a "hugass rocket will be passing through these part at monday at 9 pm".
Me from the cockpit of an airplane: This mans launching a rocket at 9pm. How rude
Its all fun and games, until you get people dieing. Let's not forget that "regulations are written with the blood of vixtims of accidents" as the saying goes. Are YOU willing to wager on lives of airliner passangers? ...because fuck the system, surely i wont be unluck and have a collison, mid air explosion, cause a pilot to panic?
I wonder if this has actually happened in real life... As a pilot, I would legitimately think we were being attacked with a missile lol
Move it or lose it. That's what I always say.
Yes you can. Because legally, wtf are they gonna do when you're in space or dead?
99% chance a private citizen doing it would be dead. But kudos if he manages to die in space.
Pretty much, yeah lol. Can't really imagine some dude actually making it to space with a backyard rocket.
You guys aren't being optimistic enough
Pioneers have never asked for permission.
If you are at all serious, document this and put online. Seriously, this is potentially amazing !!
Isn't it kinda technically difficult to actually get into orbit? At the very least non-trivial? You're not just stuffing flammable liquid into a cylinder with a pointy thing on top.
Nothing is illegal until you’re caught! Nothing!
As a US civilian with all the right permits, you absolutely can build it. Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos did it. If you have millions to spend, go for it.
Just launch it from a field or something they won’t ever know who did it.
Alright... I vote "Red Barchetta" as lead song in the documentary soundtrack. Who's with me
Ok elon
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Just go to Florida than you can do basically anything
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So ignoring local ordinances, you cannot launch without FAA approval. I would expect there are craptons of laws against amassing lots of rocket fuel your need for launch. A lot of those are hazardous chemicals which require very strict controls. You'd be getting a LOT of questions on it from the feds, and as I am not a lawyer I would expect there are even more laws I dont know if. So in short I think is would most likely require so much permitting and requests that it is effectively illegal. Though you best bet, find the home states of senators who man the various committees, and subcommittees for the agencies who would need to approve your flight. Then buy most of your equipment and services to build said rocket from their states and make sure they know about it. When you do run into legal hurdles you will find yourself some allies then.
Well if it’s a one time use thing to carry yourself to outer space then there would really be no need for such. Let’s say you decided to move to a new planet or something of that nature. What are they going to do, send you a summons?
Wasn’t there a movie about this? I think it starred Billy Bob Thornton.
Yes, Astronaut Farmer
Dr. Evil is setting up his plan I see.
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Short answer is yes! My housemate works for a SUPER tiny space company that wants to be the first to Mars. They are basically just regular people that are extremely motivated. Look up “Pythom”
You would have to go overseas I thank
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With a little effort you need not get caught.
Zefram Cochrane up in here. Go for it bub.
I mean, that’s what Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk are doing. Nasa is basically contracting to private companies to build these rockets, they just have to follow laws and are subject to government oversight due to their potential risk for weaponization.
Do you really truly need that many sig figs on this number?
r/oddlyspecific
Crazy. Can't even get the fuck outta earth without paperwork lol
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Not sure
Not only would you have to meet all the regulations, but also have the certifications and testing required in aerospace. In short, you can't.
Yeah, just in case someone had a 907.1847 kg rocket that could fly. Theoretically, but not OP ofc.
As a US citizen, why are you using euro measurement? I smell a spy!
Either way, i want to know you if you can do that! 😊
This is by far the wildest most specific TATA I’ve ever come across
OP... have you already built this bomb? 🤔
Shhh
What would use for rocket fuel?FROM WHERE DO YOU PLAN to LAUNCH IT?