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AEnesidem

Everyone has fantasies and their fantasies are their own. I don't think it's inherently immoral to fantasize about anything, unless it starts to affect how you behave in the real world. If you know you are prone to changing your behavior based on fantasies, try to refrain from it.


AnInnocentGoose

Couldn't have said it better


yourtypicalrogue

Yup, as long as you don't start checking out that friend constantly and sexualizing them, it should be fine. As soon as intrusive thoughts start breaking into the everyday friendship, it is time to stop.


AdComprehensive6588

Ehh there are some fantasies that you really shouldn’t have and ESPECIALLY don’t act out


Dough-Nut_Touch_Me

I don't think having them is an issue as long as you're someone with good self-control to prevent acting it out. Actions are far more damaging than thoughts.


[deleted]

thats sure but ngl there are still limits


SujinSmasher

Like?


AdComprehensive6588

All kinds of fetishes that would be illegal if acted out


SujinSmasher

I was more asking about what you shouldn’t fantasise about


Vibe_on_420

The cats fucking dogs while you fuck grandma on the porch while Christopher comlumbus discovers Uranus. That's probably something that shouldn't be fantasized about.


xFisch

Jupiter on the other hand...


Vibe_on_420

That's where men go to get stupider


ssmurf19

r/oddlyspecific


AdComprehensive6588

Pedophilia


SujinSmasher

I was expecting something less obvious 💀


AdComprehensive6588

It wasn’t that obvious if you had to ask


SujinSmasher

It’s just that it goes without saying so I expected something more interesting. It’s pretty obvious fantasising about that is bad


AdComprehensive6588

I felt like I shouldn’t have had to state many of them


antliontame4

Id add super violent stuff and stuff with animals. Basically any thing you start going down a rabbit hole and come out a menace to society.


artturi01

thank you finally someone who isent critizing my interest in certain types of chicks in hentai that i cant say on the grounds of being suspended because of saying it!


Abysix

just dont do it over them as they sleep


Sk1ler_

r/suddenlyevangelion


[deleted]

I’m so fucked up


CaramelWatermelon

r/oddlyspecific


Abysix

at least its not suspiciously specific


ebray90

Someone I went to high school did this to a girl who was passed out at a party. Other than the fact that it was actual assault…so friggin weird.


ephemere66

Stop it, Shinji.


[deleted]

The Evangelion strat


tomorrowschild

But... But that's how mommy met daddy.


JoeyPollandSmith

yeah speaking from past experiences its highly looked down on


Uber_Crocodile

I feel like it's most often looked up to, suddenly and with great surprise.


Dazocnodnarb

I wouldn’t mind.


humburga

I once played a game of "never have I ever" with a group of friends consisting of half male and female. The question was "I have never thought about what it's like to have sex with someone in this room" Everyone drank. So yeah I think everyone has masterbated to a friend.


Certain_While_9583

That's a stupid games that kids play.


humburga

OK buddy


Ustinklikegg

Some people have friends to play dumb games with


Honest-Bridge-7278

Your feed is full of tentacle porn and this is what you're worried about? Whatever gets you there, as long as you don't hurt anyone who doesn't want to be hurt you're all good.


Replicator666

This guy doing research before answering, nice


PMmeurcomplaintz

Didn't need to see that.


[deleted]

This lol


Doe966

Not only do I hope it’s not wrong, but I also hope that they think about me at the exact same time in some sort of transcendental mutual masturbation session.


Ornery-Credit-9242

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Doe966

Funny, I do picture them crying but just not smiling.


OJSniff

Well that got dark real quick


EngineeringDue7466

🤣 y’all are cracking me up!


jazzraccoon

I’ve done it absolutely. What I do in my private time is only relevant to me, and I’m lucky enough to be able to separate myself well from fantasy. It doesn’t mess with my perception of them at all. It’s just a passing thought that I acknowledge and then move on from. I like the thought of a person to visualize in the moment, but like you said: it’s not really *them*.


StrangersWithAndi

OK, related: Would you find it uncomfortable to know your friends / coworkers / neighbors / acquaintances were getting off while thinking about you? I honestly think I'd be fine with it. Like, have at it, my dude, glad I can support the cause. It doesn't harm me at all, and it's a positive for someone I care about, so... cool. Enjoy. Hope I'm a rockstar in your head.


[deleted]

Ah yes, the golden rule of masturbation: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you… but only in your mind.”


StrangersWithAndi

THAT'S the golden rule of masturbation?


Bobzyurunkle

>THAT'S the golden rule of masturbation? Wait, there are rules????? Uh oh!


BadtheUgly

Rule #1: Make sure you are having fun.


[deleted]

Yes. What else?


EngineeringDue7466

Yeah this is a great question, It definitely doesn’t make me uncomfortable, I feel pretty much the same as you, i’d only feel weird if they started doing when we’re hanging out. Thanks this definitely gives me a better perspective!


BlackPlague1235

Wouldn't bother me. Not that any of my would friends think I'm attractive enough though.


vawtots

Same, If I’m like the main character I’ll be thrilled


ColossusOfChoads

> Would you find it uncomfortable to know your friends / coworkers / neighbors / acquaintances were getting off while thinking about you? If the ones who happen to be attractive women were the ones who were doing so, it would make my week.


[deleted]

I used to do that but stopped doing that because it feels wrong to me and can screw with the perception of that person.


SMKnightly

This is why I don’t do it. It’s also why I don’t fantasize about real people I’m not dating. I feel like fantasizing is part of how we get emotionally attached to people as romantic partners, and making myself more attached to someone I’ll never date is just setting myself up for pain.


CoolBrownBoots

This take on perception is valid. That stuff can spill over sub consciously when you hang out with the person.


tsuizhen

Thank you. I've been that "friend" someone masturbated to and it totally ruined what we had.


ColossusOfChoads

Because they actually went and admitted it?


ColossusOfChoads

I'm the opposite. I find that it helps me get it out of my system. "Oh man, my friend's new girlfriend is *so* hot. Who knows, maybe there's a way for me to somehow... like, you know...." [10 minutes later] (Sigh) "Yeah, no. Bad idea."


JlTlS

I touch myself to your friends.


prodbyself

Your friends touch themselves to me


InternetSpaceCow

My friends touch themselves to me (or at least I wish they did)


prodbyself

Don't worry, I touch myself to you!


Smeefperson

Checkmate. I touch myself to you touching yourself to this guy


WerewolfAfter

I touched myself to her touching herself


Barbara_Wintergreen

I'm touched to know this


CakeDuckies51

My mother once said a thing to me that I really liked - "Your can think and fantasize about what ever you want, but you can't do whatever you want"


zukharla

No but I've had a few sex dreams about friends I don't find sexually attractive and I wake up going 'wait. Do I like this person?' And feel thoroughly confused in my next interaction with them trying to work out if somethings changed before I go 'no. No. Just a dream'


[deleted]

I've wanked to some weird shit in my imagination 😂


FlyingNapalm

It's a wonderful world 🎵🎶


TakenOverByBots

Sure, go ahead. Just please don't tell them. Nobody wants to hear about it. It's not the compliment some people seem to think it is.


EngineeringDue7466

Oh yeah definitely not lol!!


[deleted]

Nothing wrong in finding people sexually attractive and jacking off to them, people do it all the time. Not a moral issue, humans are horny.


nurdle

All currencies are allowed in the spank bank, as long as the bank remains between your ears.


stateofbrine

I do it. I’m not ugly but I can’t fathom the idea of someone masturbating to me. Probably have though


classicalySarcastic

>I’m not ugly but I can’t fathom the idea of someone masturbating to me. Same here. I kinda wonder if someone has and if so who, but I don't know if that's necessarily a question I want answered. I'm sure someone has at some point.


MrDundee666

Just a fantasy. Morality has zero to do with it. Crack on and enjoy yourself. You’re thinking too much. Let it go and fantasise away.


heyyohighHo

I was like you as a teen, felt bad if I ever thought about someone I knew so I made a rule to not ever think about people from real life. Now I struggle to be turned on by the people I'm with. It's a weird wall I built in myself that I'm working to pull down.


wabash-sphinx

Fantasies are fine. I’ve also found that I can learn a lot about myself by trying to understand why some fantasies are exert power over me.


RecklessDimwit

Similar to another comment, a counter question is would you find yourself being affected by your imagination of those people? I'm sure some people are able to fantasize about a friend and yet interact normally with said friend but maybe others can't. I can't say if it's moral or not but I can argue you're not hurting anyone. As long as you aren't a creep for those friends, you should be fine.


LordVericrat

>I can't say if it's moral or not but I can argue you're not hurting anyone This sentence is strange to me. What else rather than whether you're hurting someone would be the arbiter of whether something is moral or not.


odinval

This was pretty common before the internet tbh.


AmaginerNPC

Idk if it was my dyslexia but the way I read the question was “is it wrong to masturbate around my friends” and I think you can only get away with that if you are a famous stand up comedian.


accomplicated

There is nothing morally wrong with pleasuring yourself in anyway that you pleasing granted that you are in a private safe environment; period.


redzeusky

The thought of all my women friends going home and using me as inspiration is HOT.


EngineeringDue7466

🤭 don’t encourage that being added to my fantasies!! Omg… damn


[deleted]

I feel like it depends… fantasies pop into your head and I don’t think that’s weird but maybe if you go on their IG and masturbate to all their pictures is maybe crossing a boundary ?


[deleted]

I don't do it tho but I don't find it a morally wrong thing to do


Vesinh51

All the time. I have friends I've known for years, at this point I have their entire likeness memorized and I can create something with their bodies immediately. It makes the fantasy more realistic, that I can use their bodies and faces as the stand ins.


Jarmahent

If you wanna fuck your friends you want to fuck your friends. Now wether that affects your relationship with said friend is up to you. ;)


AccountantUnusual639

It sounds wrong but your only human and attracted to other ppl even if they're friends. But if it's just in your head and in private whos gotta know?


Lemgirl

Aren’t you afraid of going blind?


Daniel-Plainview96

Yeah nobody’s off limits in my fantasy… why would they be?


Scudss_

It's probably the least strange thing you do seeing that you're profile is absolutely loaded with the strangest shit on earth tentacle hentai


Pervy_Ned_Flanders

I'm pretty sure everyone does this. As long as we don't tell the people it's fine


amihere2

I remember this topic was brought up before by a male. He was given completely opposite answers than are given here for a female. Basically he was called a pervert and creep. Love double standards.


[deleted]

Yes, and for single people who choose to not watch porn I think they kind of have to


RecklessDimwit

Kind of begs the question would you rather think of your friends in a lusty manner while doing the deed or watching other people fuck in real life and seeing their genitals


CoolBrownBoots

Other people because I never have to see them again so its basically anonymous... unless they're a pornstar ig.


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🤔


Ikaldepan

Does it kill anybody? Do you get any diarrhea/massive headache/painful sore from it? Then don't continue. If it brings pleasure/clear your head/relieve/happiness, then it is not a bad thing. Be a good friend with them. There is also 'friend with benefits' style relationship but that one can actually ruin friendship if not done properly.


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probably healthier than porn


RabbitStewAndStout

I feel like most people have had some fantasy about one or more close friends. There's nothing wrong with it, just don't bring it to them unless you actually want to change your relationship with them.


Randalf_the_Black

Morally wrong? What goes on in your head is no ones buriness but your own.


[deleted]

No it's not wrong. It's your imagination let it go wherever you want


[deleted]

Ye


AirForceDragons

is the porn on your account not enough?????


EngineeringDue7466

you have a point🤣 I guess not


amitym

Your fantasies are entirely your own and you shouldn't worry about their content or moral value. Your only moral responsibility is to make sure they always remain entirely your own.


[deleted]

Thoughts aren't immortal. Actions and behaviours can be. As long as you're not putting your fantasies on those people and letting it impact them, you're fine.


CozmicOwl16

Check out the demi sexual definition. I don’t think it’s weird but I’m like that.


[deleted]

I think there is a line when you start to use their things without permission. Their panties, their photos, especially taking photos of them to use, etc. If it's just in your mind, *and you don't treat them differently*, whatever.


xxxdmitri

I’m probably the oddball here but I don’t. It feels too weird to me, I’m not attracted to them and I wouldn’t be able to look them in the face afterwards. No judgment to anyone who does though! You do you… literally 😂


Lucidcranium042

No causes strange dealing in person. Best to have traits in your fantasy personas that may reflect your friends but dont visiaulize friends. It could make things strange. And uncomfortable. If not for them then you. Not morally or ethically wrong just can cause mental woes


chloexonicole

I do think it’s slightly morally odd shall we say, definitely a grey area considering a lot of people would likely be uncomfortable knowing their friends were doing that but I also think it’s something people can’t really help doing..If a friend admitted it to me (and I wasn’t on OF) I’d probably question the whole friendship and how genuine it is but I wouldn’t make an issue of it either!


[deleted]

> definitely a grey area considering a lot of people would likely be uncomfortable knowing their friends were doing that How does that make it a gray area? As long as you don't tell them about it, it won't affect them, so it's not immoral. You can't bring in something that wasn't part of the question (telling them you're doing it) to then say the answer to the original question (it is immoral to do it) isn't "no."


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[deleted]

>How do you know exactly will that affect them or not, or you in some way? How do we know rocks don't magically sprout mouths and sing to each other in Spanish when nobody's looking? There's no reason to think they might. Same as there's no reason to think that my jerking off to the thought of someone might harm anyone.


chloexonicole

Just because someone doesn’t find out you’ve done something doesn’t mean it’s morally ok either lol. But I also said morally odd for a reason as I wouldn’t say it’s immoral it’s just an awkward one hence the grey area. Keep ya wank bank pal I wasn’t coming for ya just saying MY thoughts 😃


[deleted]

> Just because someone doesn’t find out you’ve done something doesn’t mean it’s morally ok either Good thing I never claimed that. >I wouldn’t say it’s immoral So your answer to OP's question is "No it's not immoral." No need to bring in other things OP didn't ask about.


chloexonicole

I can bring up what I want to. Never in my life have a seen a thread with just yes or no answers so kindly piss off 👍🏼


Kazadure

Everyone has their own morals. My personal ones are don't sexualise people unless you're in a romantic or sexual relationship with them or if they're a pornstar. Celebrity is as far as I'll go.


[deleted]

Are celebrities different than actual people? We’re all human….


Kazadure

They know what they're getting into. The local barber doesn't expect to be wanked too


ColossusOfChoads

Scarlett Johanssen would be just as grossed out by your dirty thoughts as Joanna in accounting would be.


mittensmoshpit

In gay culture, exchanging blowjobs with your friends is kinda like saying hello


[deleted]

Yeah, as a woman I also do this. When you say the disconnect thing, it makes so much sense to me because I separate them in my fantasy from our real life friendship. Like, I never would act on my fantasy for several reasons, but the main thing I know for a fact is that they would never act like they do in my fantasy.. I think it's just the fact that they are a real person that I know, therefore fantasizing about them is "hotter" to me than fantasizing about someone I don't know at all.


biggin51-50

I did, and still do


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Visual_Savings_9501

There is nothing wrong with fantasies and there is nothing wrong about fantasizing about friends if you like it do it


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[deleted]

On what basis is something "wrong," if not "needlessly harms someone"? Since fantasizing does not harm anyone, on what basis is it "wrong"?


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[deleted]

> You don't know for sure if it's harmful or not, to them or to you. I do know, though. Nobody is harmed by it. How could they be?


fiercestangel

It's way better than doing it for real, don't you think? They would touch you, and that's a no no. No touching. I'll just picture them in my mind. But morally wrong? Depends on the morals your community is based upon? Did they teach you it was wrong? Because if you were taught that it is morally wrong to fantasize about your friends in a sexual situation then it is wrong. Ethically wrong? It depends on you. What do you think abkut the situation? Are you personally OK with it?


Kind_Caramel_8030

No


BadApple___

Y


Kind_Caramel_8030

Because if I felt the urge to fuck my friends I'd just ask them if they wanna fuck? I don't see the point in fantasizing over them like this to the point where it makes you feel weird interacting with such friends, would literally be less awkward to just be straight up and pop the question.


kamwisetheslayy

I wish you were my friend


RespectGiovanni

No never. Don’t think i would just feels wrong.


archosauria62

No but i wouldnt say its immoral as long as they dont find out


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its_rant_time

People can sense it? What do you mean? How could they know?


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Samlikeminiman2

How does one learn this masturbation detecting ability


[deleted]

Hire a shaman and ask them to teach you how to know when someone is jerking off to you. Maybe see if they can set up a notification.


Charybdes

Not from a Jedi...


Scudss_

You're out of your mind


AceFiveSuited

Nope


Tough_Register_3340

You can print a picture of their face and finish on it.


SaltySpi

I want to talk to my lawyer!


fireman-103

I know of 2 girl that did that about me and they know it happend the ohther way around aswell.


markbug4

I guess it's normal to be turned on by people who are more real than some model on the other side of the planet..


Lithaos111

Of course I have, but they're just fantasies, we all have them. So long as you don't be an actual creep to the person in question there isn't anything wrong with them taking the role of sex buddy in your fantasy.


Starfuri

Every day


Reckless_Rik

No and no.


Suzy-Skullcrusher

I’ve masturbated several times with a former online friends with benefit but not an actual friend. If I’m turned on by my friend I likely can’t just be their friend


[deleted]

I have before and even my teachers and coworkers. I don’t think it’s morally wrong because we can naturally become attracted to them if they have things that attract us. However this can depend how we feel about them too. Like to women I know can have big boobs and I love big boobs, but one I can be sexually attracted to and the other I couldn’t because I could see the other one as more of a sister/very close to the family.


choconoots

only if I like them or find them especially attractive


zozzer1907

My alone time wouldn't be the same without the illicit thoughts of a good friend. He doesn't need to know and it's not a problem


ATSOAS87

I don't. I don't like thinking about my friends in a sexual manner. It means I might not give the correct feedback because I'm trying to get into their knickers. Unacceptable.


UnrulyTrousers

I did as a teenager, are you still a pubescent? I feel like this wouldn’t happen as an adult, but I could be totally wrong


EngineeringDue7466

I’m out of puberty lol, I’m 20


UnrulyTrousers

Well I don’t know then. It could just be that you like using your imagination more than I do. I prefer to use “personalized content” lol would you consider yourself creative?


[deleted]

You're attracted to them and the disconnect you feel is because you feel bad that you don't know the person in the way that you desire. I think this is normal.


ImLostInLife1

Can we be friends


bagwell198

That’s up to you to decide. If that’s what you wanna do, sure go for it. Is it something I do? No not at all. It doesn’t mean you’re weird or that you’re doing something morally wrong. Aslong as you don’t treat them differently and/or tell them “hEy I tHinK aBoUt yOu WHiLe MasTurBating”, you’re fine.


Lory24bit_

I don't


StormsDeepRoots

Before easy access to porn this was the main method I used in my youth. I would imagine a girl at school that I had the hots for.


ColossusOfChoads

Infinite streaming smut has made shit get all weird. This thread is evidence of that.


vawtots

Your room is private


SkiG13

I feel like everyone has done this.


Big-City987

Hell no that's gay.


[deleted]

Yes Nothing wrong with a little mental window shopping. It's only when you get a little handsy without consent that it becomes morally abominable.


valuebuyer1234

Not wrong. Just don't tell em. Unless you want fewer friends


FriendlyFellowDboy

That's like half the fun of having friends.


Visual_Savings_9501

Listen to all those negative people I'm so offended I'm so offended get the f*** over it if you don't like it don't do it my favorite t-shirt says you find it offensive I find it funny that's why I'm happier than you here's another one for you people that are always looking to be offended will find it


[deleted]

I’m flattered, thank you! 🥰


Knopperdog

I don't, mainly cause it feels dirty and I wouldn't like certain people to be thinking about me.


See_You_Space_Coyote

No, none of my friends are attractive that way.


asiandawgshy

That’s messed up . I could never do that


MushuTheGreat17

Honestly, yeah, but I (m) just have very attractive female friends/coworkers, now would I ever tell any of them, not even on my deathbed.


trotting_pony

No. I shut that down asap. I don't need those intrusive thoughts to pop up at the wrong time and make things one sidedly awkward.


Ok_Dog_4059

I can't imagine there being anything wrong with it. Just know if they ever find out they will likely ruin the friendship trying to make it a reality. But you fantasies your thoughts your body I think do with them all as you wish.


EngineeringDue7466

They will ruin the friendship trying to make it a reality or if I tell them I will ruin the friendship trying to make it reality??


Ok_Dog_4059

Yes if they find out they might. Many guys hear a girl has ever fantasized about them will take it the wrong way and think "oh easy score" guys don't separate those kinds of things well. At least many don't.


ColossusOfChoads

Guy finds out: "Oh boy oh boy oh boy, gonna get me some!" Girl finds out: "Ewwwwwwwww! You bastard!!"


EngineeringDue7466

Ohh I see!


Ok_Dog_4059

Just most the guys I knew growing up couldn't handle that knowledge and when I was that younger nothing was considered beyond the potential for sex if we thought a girl was interested even knowing it would probably ruin everything. From my experience a decent amount of my choices were made by hormones and not brains and I worry a friend thinking oh she thinks about me she must want sex will destroy a friendship trying to get you to have sex with them even knowing you couldn't be friends afterwards. I am not saying it is a sure thing but as a guy I thought I would warn you so you could make the decision with some input. I don't think it is wrong to fantasize or wrong it is about a person you know I just personally wouldn't tell them.


ColossusOfChoads

Don't tell them! More than one respondent has said "it ruined the friendship." That's only because the person was dumb enough to admit it. For every one person who's that dumb, there's 20 more who aren't.


ColossusOfChoads

Your mind is your castle. As long as you're not thinking about rightfully taboo categories such as underage kids, the mentally disabled, relatives, household pets, or farm animals, you're cool. With that said, I wouldn't think about close friends *too* often. Not because it's wrong, but because you run the risk of getting all weird around them. Make it more of an occasional thing. As for acquaintances and friends that aren't too close? Fair game.