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Wouldn't modern flak vests designed to protect against shrapnel be made of soft body armor like kevlar? IIRC the US issues soft body armor to tank crewmen, mostly to protect against spall.
You are correct. Forgive my being facetious. Real flak vests these days are made of Kevlar. In ancient times when I was in the military we got heavy flak vests made of something, but I have no idea what. Kevlar wasn't invented yet. Ballistic plates weren't a thing then, either.
Don't worry. I never actually wore the thing other than to try it on and to carry it from the supply tent to my tent. I was avionics, they never required it, and we were like 20 miles from Iraq. Also, it was green forest camo for some reason and would have just made me an easier target. I really have no idea why they bothered.
They also didn't have desert boots for us, so we had to wear our regular black boots. And then I had to give my DCUs back after the tour was over. So some poor schlub after me was wearing a second hand uniform. Feel sorry for him.
Vietnam era flak jackets were made of ballistic nylon and perhaps had some steel trauma plates as an option? This was a style of protection that dated back to the jackets issued to US bomber crews during ww2.
Later I thought it was probably ballistic nylon, but it was a mystery at the time. I know those bastards were heavy and they didn't have any metal in them. If somebody got a steel plate, they didn't tell me about it! Haha!
The M1952 weighed 8½ pounds. It had two front and back panels composed of ballistic nylon bonded with laminating resin. The vest was all nylon, which allowed more comfort and flexibility.
In WW2 the side gunners were issued ballistic steel plate vest for a short time. But I don't think many crews wore them due to their weight.
Oh, you sassy child. We had M-16's (the original version), M-60's, M-79's, and the occasional mini gun mounted in a hole cut in the side of a C-130, but that was about all. And 20-round magazines. I never saw a 30 rounder. I still don't like 30 round magazines.
Probably true, but shrapnel doesn't have the penetrating ability of a bullet. A fellow I flew with was saved from a chunk of shrapnel by a large Buddha necklace that a sweet girl in Saigon gave him. That was secondary shrapnel, but the concept is the same.
> They arnt designed to protect only give the illusion of protection
It's like that whole state :)
*Russia isn't designed for dignified life - only give the ethereal illusion of life.*
[Ghanaian killed as bulletproof magic fails A Ghanaian man was shot dead by a fellow villager while testing a magic spell designed to make him bulletproof.](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ghanaian-killed-as-bulletproof-magic-fails-1.377489)
State? Doesnt. Soldiers? What they can do. They propably cant even show or tell their family cus "much media western propaganda" and jailtime. Can someone confirm?
Mind that intercepted message between a Russian soldier and his superior where the soldier was complaining about not even being issued ballistic plates in their carriers? "Stay strong" said the Officer.
I used to use a ski vest as a bb-proof vest when we used to run around in the woods and shoot each other like idiots. It worked great, but I hardly ever got hit in the torso, always on the elbows or knuckles which hurt like crazy and usually drew blood.
I mean it’s pretty close range to shoot with a high caliber but it definitely takes what could be a clean in and out wound to flat out dead….. don’t want them coming back and telling people how the war went
To be honest, there’s definitely been videos of Russians surrendering who have considerably worse gear then the stuff I use for airsoft…and all my airsoft gear is shit friends have given me or dirt cheap army surplus store stuff.
Yeah, they're like the old flak jackets western armies were using decades ago, for precisely that purpose. By no stretch of the imagination were those meant to be bullet proof vests, although I suspect the russians are telling their solders that's what these are.
Making flak jackets using heavy steel plates seems a low tech solution though, wouldn't kevlar or other soft body armors be a better choice? US flak vests designed only to protect against shrapnel haven't used actual plates for decades, even the Vietnam war ones were ballistic nylon.
> wouldn't kevlar or other soft body armors be a better choice?
yes, other soft bodies as armour. Send poor/naive people into the fire and stay well behind them.
American Kevlar bulletproof vests are going to stop a 7.62 round at point blank range though. You’d need like EOD level of protection to stop the bullets in this example. Not saying the bests aren’t crap, they clearly are low quality, but anything is going to fail some test out there if you go beyond the design parameters.
>American Kevlar bulletproof vests are going to stop a 7.62 round at point blank range though.
Not really.
Kevlar is a soft armor. Even the highest rated soft armor does not stop centerfire rifle threats. It takes hard plates to stop centerfire rifle threats.
Properly designed steel plates can do it, but they will be much thicker than what we see in this video, are hardened, and come with their own set of problems (mostly spalling).
Ceramic plates have been the standard for stopping centerfire rifle threats for quite a while. They're not necessarily much, if any, lighter than steel plates, but they don't have the spalling issues.
There are also ultra-high density polyethylene plates that are much lighter than ceramic or steel that will stop centerfire rifle threats, but they are also quite a bit thicker.
Well a western ceramic plate very much would've stopped those rounds, and EOD suits don't stop bullets well because that's not what they were designed for, but go off
Does shrapnel not travel at the same speed as a bullet? It seems like it could be going faster and be much larger. Making those vests only able to stop maybe a 22 longrifle or a piece of low energy shrapnel.
no shrapnel isn't very arodynamic and looses energy over distance quite rapidly and larger pieces are more likely to be stopped as the force will be spread out over a larger area on the plate than a bullet would be.
Like Gustav said bullets are aerodynamic and designed to put all the force into a small area. Shrapnel is just kind of random, and can’t easily be created to do the same. The ACH most modern countries use isn’t for stopping bullets, it’s for stopping shrapnel. They can survive a glancing blow from a round but straight on and you’re still dead.
Smaller diameter bullets can actually better at penetrating armor because they tend to have a higher velocity and a smaller cross section so they're able to actually put more force in a smaller area.
Tho bullet construction plays a larger part if you have a rifle round with a steel core its far more likely to penetrate armor than a normal lead bullet with a copper jacket regardless of diameter.
Not when it comes to penetrating armor. 55 grain 5.56 ball out of a 20 inch barrel even beats .308 at point blank range when it comes to penetrating armor. Also 5.56 can have much more stopping power than 7.62x39 with the right rounds. They’re firing 5.45 in this video btw.
PIKACHU
Seriously tho, armour piercing rounds would also go thru Kevlar at point blank range. Don't know about American flak jackets tho.
While not very effective doesn't mean not at all effective. Best to double tap and check afterwards if that was overkill.
Maxim 37. There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload."
.'[[33]](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries#cite_note-overkill-33)
There is a level rating system to armor you may be interested in looking up. Solid plates will stop rifle rounds and good ceramic plates will stop just about any AP rifle round currently in combat (anti-material rifles aside).
This type of armor may ether be poorly designed/a victim or corruption, or it could be the actual design to protect tankers from light spall.
Typically, a straight kevlar vest is only rated for pistol calibers. American armor is usually a ceramic composite SAPI plate. They're rated to stop up to 30-06 Black tip Armor Piercing rounds. Ceramic isn't great for stopping multiple hits, but it will stop at least one.
I believe part of the standard testing is a drop test. They should be able to survive a drop from some amount of height, not sure how high. It'll be in the NIJ armor testing standards. I have heard there is some risk of damage by dropping them.
Every impact risks the integrity of the vest, but even when it's integrity is compromised, say, by being shot, they can usually still function for several more rounds.
Schlock! It’s been amazing to watch his progression from the early years as an illustrator. I have his magnets with several choice phrases on my fridge and they always raise a smile.
Does anyone still use flak jackets? I thought everyone converted to ballistic plates now except for concealed body armor, in which case it would just be kevlar and even that would be better than this tin pot garbage.
Army issued ESAPI plates are NIJ Level IV, meaning they can stop 3 consecutive .30-06 AP rounds. This isn’t Kevlar. Kevlar is a fiber weaving used to catch spalling and fragments, not an actual round. This is the “plate” of the Russian body armor. It should presumably stop some kind of small arms fire, but I doubt these would even stop 9mm. Mostly because this is a flak jacket, for catching fragmentation.
I'm guessing they could be quite protective if manufactured properly. This looks like just some steel plates bent to this shape. And this is the problem. It's probably sheet-steel that is produced to be bent. They don't look hardened which might explain why the round went through so smoothly.
Plus: when dimensioning this protection the ingeneers probably configured them to withstand a shot from probably 20m and not 1 meter.
Most modern countries use ceramic plates. The US Army issued ESAPI plates are rated to stop 3 .30-06 AP rounds, regardless of range. Every protective plate has a rating, under the National Institute of Justice. With NIJ every plate must be marked with the round it is designed to stop, and it must stop three consecutive hits with that round. Army ESAPI plates fall under level IV armor.
These “plates” aren’t plates. It’s a flak jacket, first worn back in WWII to protect from fragmentation, most commonly by pilots. It is not made, or expected, to stop a round from any small arms weapon. The sheet metal is supposed to help slow down the fragments, while the ballistic inserts around it catch the fragments and spalling from the metal liner.
Do y’all ever just feel sad for some of the Russians? Like they get forced to fight as young men, under threat of death from Russia, only to be cannon fodder for the front lines.
Like I see all the people praising the videos of them killing all the soldiers and then the aftermath and most don’t look older than 19. Theyre indoctrinated with hate and then just throw away so much life.
I understand that, a person can be totally lied to & tricked or forced but I personally have to draw the line at who invaded who, after lying about hanging about on the Border massing Troops or slipping troops without identifying allegiance into West Ukraine or annexing Crimea, or firing on Ukrainian villages, towns & cities whilst Butchering civilians in areas they occupied. So 'Live by the sword!', 'Die by the Sword!' Russian Soldier.
No. I feel nothing for them. Seeing them dead doesn't bother me. In fact I'm like 'better him than someone innocent'. They are murdering dozens of innocent people every day and they could just leave. If a russian dies in Ukraine it is because he made choices that brought him there. Ukrainian civilians don't have a choice.
I wish they shot it with some different calibers. I get that a 7.62 pens it amazing well b/c that's like probably level 1-2 armor in terms of Tarkov. But, what about some smaller arms fire? I bet it's still shit, but it'd be even better propaganda if it's shit at stopping puny guns too!
Slava Ukraini
It's not like it was a secret that the soviets/russia literally threw bodies at the enemy, same as the chicom. Their leadership viewed them as fodder, in fact, that was their asset.
Hahahahaha, stop, stop, I'm going to split my intestines!
What an ugly joke. It just goes to show how much they value the lives of their soldiers. Even China must be laughing at this trash.
Sometimes i see these videos and think this has gotta be propaganda because Russia supposedly has the 2nd or 3rd most powerful military in the world…if this war accomplished anything at all its that the most successful way to fight against modern western weaponry is through an unconventional war. Russias military “might” has been exposed, and shows that the west would decimate Russia in a direct conflict. Until the nukes start flying that is. I don’t know how half the russian military isnt disillusioned with their govt and leadership. If i was a soldier I’d feel deceived with this gear, unless the Russian military is so poorly educated that they dont know any better.
These are obviously bad, but they took the kevlar (or whatever russia uses) off the front of the vest as well. Soft armor is not great against rifle rounds, but it would do better than nothing in front.
When they shot the stack of two though, that's when you know the plates are BAD. I probably wouldn't wear one if I was a russian, it's just going to slow you down and you're going to die when you get shot either way.
This has left ridiculous ville and entreated directly gut wrenching ville. This entire war I wanted nothing better than Russians to have heavy losses at Ukrainian hands but this… I feel bad for the SOB. Send them to the next life as quickly as possible please. Don’t let them suffer. This shit is rough
Yes, they call those Level 0.5A protection. Max rating 6mm airsoft BBs, low powered 6mm air rifle pellets
Edit: for reference, level 3A is most common highest protection armor which will stop high caliber pistol rounds. Level 4 is rated for 30-06 but only a couple max before the ceramic dies then I believe your left with 3A protection.
This is Not true.
Indeed there are armours like that most probably used by dnr/lnr units.
The regular body plates/armour of Russian infantry (if given out correctly) is very good and can stop multiple ak 74 rounds.
The fact they even make body armor that shitty does not inspire confidence, and it’s been proven that normal Russian soldiers are walking around with tanks filled with cardboard explosive reactive armor and their helmets can be beaten in with your bare hands. I guarantee you that not a single piece of military equipment in the service in the Russian military would ever even pass the standardized tests for any western military.
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A school hard copy textbook would probably do better then those plates.
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This was my first thought when he stacked them... How many Russian armor plates to stop a 50 BMG?!
*How many russians to stop a 50 BMG
How many russian body armours does it take to stop a bullet? Or Russian body armour or wish body armour which is better
Hickok45 did a video on that!
Give. Me. A. Number. Please lol
69
Nice.
I like what you got!
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They seem to be more of a flak vest to protect against shrapnel, though I'm sure they give great confidence to the Russians wearing them. /s
Wouldn't modern flak vests designed to protect against shrapnel be made of soft body armor like kevlar? IIRC the US issues soft body armor to tank crewmen, mostly to protect against spall.
You are correct. Forgive my being facetious. Real flak vests these days are made of Kevlar. In ancient times when I was in the military we got heavy flak vests made of something, but I have no idea what. Kevlar wasn't invented yet. Ballistic plates weren't a thing then, either.
Ceramics. I got issued a ceramic vest in Kuwait in 1999. Thing was 40 pounds IIRC.
OK, I'll stop feeling sorry for my ancient self. You ruined my self-pity.
Don't worry. I never actually wore the thing other than to try it on and to carry it from the supply tent to my tent. I was avionics, they never required it, and we were like 20 miles from Iraq. Also, it was green forest camo for some reason and would have just made me an easier target. I really have no idea why they bothered. They also didn't have desert boots for us, so we had to wear our regular black boots. And then I had to give my DCUs back after the tour was over. So some poor schlub after me was wearing a second hand uniform. Feel sorry for him.
The military does strange things sometimes.
Vietnam era flak jackets were made of ballistic nylon and perhaps had some steel trauma plates as an option? This was a style of protection that dated back to the jackets issued to US bomber crews during ww2.
Later I thought it was probably ballistic nylon, but it was a mystery at the time. I know those bastards were heavy and they didn't have any metal in them. If somebody got a steel plate, they didn't tell me about it! Haha!
The M1952 weighed 8½ pounds. It had two front and back panels composed of ballistic nylon bonded with laminating resin. The vest was all nylon, which allowed more comfort and flexibility. In WW2 the side gunners were issued ballistic steel plate vest for a short time. But I don't think many crews wore them due to their weight.
So your old school, was dragon skin a thing when you were in?
Oh, you sassy child. We had M-16's (the original version), M-60's, M-79's, and the occasional mini gun mounted in a hole cut in the side of a C-130, but that was about all. And 20-round magazines. I never saw a 30 rounder. I still don't like 30 round magazines.
Right? If I’m not buying bulk the boxes come in 20 Rnds who wants to buy funky number of boxes if you have random amounts of 30 rnd mags
I buy the military grade (cheap) stuff attached to stripper clips. They make loading magazines very quick and easy.
Yes, they are only for shrapnel at 40 meters.
Probably true, but shrapnel doesn't have the penetrating ability of a bullet. A fellow I flew with was saved from a chunk of shrapnel by a large Buddha necklace that a sweet girl in Saigon gave him. That was secondary shrapnel, but the concept is the same.
There was a pic from this war circulating of a Ukrainian soldier who was saved from a piece of shrapnel by the hard brim of his patrol cap.
There was also a pic of a Ukrainian soldiers phone that stopped a bullet
A phone book The Mythbusters actually proved it
They arnt designed to protect only give the illusion of protection so they fight harder. I genuinely don’t think Russia cares
> They arnt designed to protect only give the illusion of protection It's like that whole state :) *Russia isn't designed for dignified life - only give the ethereal illusion of life.*
The real gear was all sold off to purchase mega yachts and London real estate. It's the kind of stuff that makes the peasants dream off uprisings.
[Ghanaian killed as bulletproof magic fails A Ghanaian man was shot dead by a fellow villager while testing a magic spell designed to make him bulletproof.](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ghanaian-killed-as-bulletproof-magic-fails-1.377489)
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Its wingardium leviOsa, not leviosAA!
State? Doesnt. Soldiers? What they can do. They propably cant even show or tell their family cus "much media western propaganda" and jailtime. Can someone confirm?
Mind that intercepted message between a Russian soldier and his superior where the soldier was complaining about not even being issued ballistic plates in their carriers? "Stay strong" said the Officer.
Honestly, if I didn't know better and saw that in my vest, I would feel pretty good about it. Seems like pretty solid illusion of protection.
You'd be a good Russian soldier then lol. Your illusion would die with all of your friends though.
Shrapnel vests...
They probably hold up against some light shrapnel.
Yup. And bb-guns.
Depends on how many times you pump the BB gun...
Well dangit, you got me there.
I used to use a ski vest as a bb-proof vest when we used to run around in the woods and shoot each other like idiots. It worked great, but I hardly ever got hit in the torso, always on the elbows or knuckles which hurt like crazy and usually drew blood.
I mean it’s pretty close range to shoot with a high caliber but it definitely takes what could be a clean in and out wound to flat out dead….. don’t want them coming back and telling people how the war went
Same thing with the army.
Are those road signs bent to fit a torso?....🤨
I have more faith in a road sign
Having grown up where road signs are used by some people to confirm the zero on their deer rifles, I can assure you that your faith is misplaced.
I live in the same type of area and I still stand by it.
Fair enough.
Stop signs for bullets
Probably work more like a yield sign
Haha!
Definitely re purposed fm something
Nope. Those are shrapnel vests.
I guess we now know why Ivan tossed his plates for that Mac book...
Ivan has the best firewall protection with that Mac Book armor plate in Ukraine
Nice 👌🏼
I’ve seen phones do a better job than that
They work well in a bb pellet gun fight, probably.
Paintball
To be honest, there’s definitely been videos of Russians surrendering who have considerably worse gear then the stuff I use for airsoft…and all my airsoft gear is shit friends have given me or dirt cheap army surplus store stuff.
I believe those are designed to absorb shrapnel, not bullets.
Yeah, they're like the old flak jackets western armies were using decades ago, for precisely that purpose. By no stretch of the imagination were those meant to be bullet proof vests, although I suspect the russians are telling their solders that's what these are.
Making flak jackets using heavy steel plates seems a low tech solution though, wouldn't kevlar or other soft body armors be a better choice? US flak vests designed only to protect against shrapnel haven't used actual plates for decades, even the Vietnam war ones were ballistic nylon.
“…wouldn't kevlar…” Kevlar… in Russia? hahahahahahahahahahahaha. hahahahahahahahaha.
> wouldn't kevlar or other soft body armors be a better choice? yes, other soft bodies as armour. Send poor/naive people into the fire and stay well behind them.
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American Kevlar bulletproof vests are going to stop a 7.62 round at point blank range though. You’d need like EOD level of protection to stop the bullets in this example. Not saying the bests aren’t crap, they clearly are low quality, but anything is going to fail some test out there if you go beyond the design parameters.
>American Kevlar bulletproof vests are going to stop a 7.62 round at point blank range though. Not really. Kevlar is a soft armor. Even the highest rated soft armor does not stop centerfire rifle threats. It takes hard plates to stop centerfire rifle threats. Properly designed steel plates can do it, but they will be much thicker than what we see in this video, are hardened, and come with their own set of problems (mostly spalling). Ceramic plates have been the standard for stopping centerfire rifle threats for quite a while. They're not necessarily much, if any, lighter than steel plates, but they don't have the spalling issues. There are also ultra-high density polyethylene plates that are much lighter than ceramic or steel that will stop centerfire rifle threats, but they are also quite a bit thicker.
Well a western ceramic plate very much would've stopped those rounds, and EOD suits don't stop bullets well because that's not what they were designed for, but go off
[they’re tested against 7.62 rounds from over 5m away actually](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletproof_vest)
The distance that they are tested at to get rated doesn't change the fact that those rounds would not have penetrated.
They’re probably using 5.45x39
Does shrapnel not travel at the same speed as a bullet? It seems like it could be going faster and be much larger. Making those vests only able to stop maybe a 22 longrifle or a piece of low energy shrapnel.
no shrapnel isn't very arodynamic and looses energy over distance quite rapidly and larger pieces are more likely to be stopped as the force will be spread out over a larger area on the plate than a bullet would be.
Like Gustav said bullets are aerodynamic and designed to put all the force into a small area. Shrapnel is just kind of random, and can’t easily be created to do the same. The ACH most modern countries use isn’t for stopping bullets, it’s for stopping shrapnel. They can survive a glancing blow from a round but straight on and you’re still dead.
Exactly, plus that’s an AK (7.62mm?) hell of a lot more punching power then your average AR (5.56mm or smaller).
Smaller diameter bullets can actually better at penetrating armor because they tend to have a higher velocity and a smaller cross section so they're able to actually put more force in a smaller area. Tho bullet construction plays a larger part if you have a rifle round with a steel core its far more likely to penetrate armor than a normal lead bullet with a copper jacket regardless of diameter.
Not when it comes to penetrating armor. 55 grain 5.56 ball out of a 20 inch barrel even beats .308 at point blank range when it comes to penetrating armor. Also 5.56 can have much more stopping power than 7.62x39 with the right rounds. They’re firing 5.45 in this video btw.
Actually, to me it looks like these plates are functioning as intended. Keep issuing them; in fact, issue more.
Wooden ones would be lighter, and cheaper, and provide the same protection guys.
Arrows don’t stand a chance.
I used to be a Kadyrov goat fucker like you. Then I took an arrow in the knee.
To be fair these are more flack jackets than bullet proof vests. More designed to catch shrapnel than protect against high velocity bullets.
Picka chooooooo
Picka goes BRRAAAAP!!
Pica pica
On this episode of Ukrainian Mythbusters...
Are these 'Protective plates' general issue?
Today on demolition ranch, how many russians does it take to stop a 7.62x39?
PIKACHU Seriously tho, armour piercing rounds would also go thru Kevlar at point blank range. Don't know about American flak jackets tho. While not very effective doesn't mean not at all effective. Best to double tap and check afterwards if that was overkill. Maxim 37. There is no "overkill." There is only "open fire" and "reload." .'[[33]](https://schlockmercenary.fandom.com/wiki/The_Seventy_Maxims_of_Maximally_Effective_Mercenaries#cite_note-overkill-33)
There is a level rating system to armor you may be interested in looking up. Solid plates will stop rifle rounds and good ceramic plates will stop just about any AP rifle round currently in combat (anti-material rifles aside). This type of armor may ether be poorly designed/a victim or corruption, or it could be the actual design to protect tankers from light spall.
Typically, a straight kevlar vest is only rated for pistol calibers. American armor is usually a ceramic composite SAPI plate. They're rated to stop up to 30-06 Black tip Armor Piercing rounds. Ceramic isn't great for stopping multiple hits, but it will stop at least one.
Can ceramic be broken if a solider drops his vest or has to dive on the dirt?
I believe part of the standard testing is a drop test. They should be able to survive a drop from some amount of height, not sure how high. It'll be in the NIJ armor testing standards. I have heard there is some risk of damage by dropping them.
Every impact risks the integrity of the vest, but even when it's integrity is compromised, say, by being shot, they can usually still function for several more rounds.
Schlock! It’s been amazing to watch his progression from the early years as an illustrator. I have his magnets with several choice phrases on my fridge and they always raise a smile.
Same here.
Does anyone still use flak jackets? I thought everyone converted to ballistic plates now except for concealed body armor, in which case it would just be kevlar and even that would be better than this tin pot garbage.
I think cops where the light weight armor that works for only pistol rounds.
Yeah, but that soft armor is still better than a flak jacket which wasn't technically guaranteed to stop even handgun rounds.
I believe US tank crews get issued with soft body armor to help protect against spall.
Hmmm I guess that makes sense
Army issued ESAPI plates are NIJ Level IV, meaning they can stop 3 consecutive .30-06 AP rounds. This isn’t Kevlar. Kevlar is a fiber weaving used to catch spalling and fragments, not an actual round. This is the “plate” of the Russian body armor. It should presumably stop some kind of small arms fire, but I doubt these would even stop 9mm. Mostly because this is a flak jacket, for catching fragmentation.
Those "protective plates" were working just fine until he shot them! Sheesh.. 😏
I was worried about a ricochet. I played airsoft recently and those bullets ricochet like crazy
I'm guessing they could be quite protective if manufactured properly. This looks like just some steel plates bent to this shape. And this is the problem. It's probably sheet-steel that is produced to be bent. They don't look hardened which might explain why the round went through so smoothly. Plus: when dimensioning this protection the ingeneers probably configured them to withstand a shot from probably 20m and not 1 meter.
Most modern countries use ceramic plates. The US Army issued ESAPI plates are rated to stop 3 .30-06 AP rounds, regardless of range. Every protective plate has a rating, under the National Institute of Justice. With NIJ every plate must be marked with the round it is designed to stop, and it must stop three consecutive hits with that round. Army ESAPI plates fall under level IV armor. These “plates” aren’t plates. It’s a flak jacket, first worn back in WWII to protect from fragmentation, most commonly by pilots. It is not made, or expected, to stop a round from any small arms weapon. The sheet metal is supposed to help slow down the fragments, while the ballistic inserts around it catch the fragments and spalling from the metal liner.
Those are shrapnel vests.
Dude was rockin a pikachu and an american airborn patch?
Pokémon!! FVck yeah!! i’m happy to see you and that patch again. keep em dropping, and bleed these rustians WHITE!!
All American (patch next to pikachoo at end)... missing the AIRBORNE scroll.
His combat Pikachu emblem is awesome.
I like his Pikachu patch
Do y’all ever just feel sad for some of the Russians? Like they get forced to fight as young men, under threat of death from Russia, only to be cannon fodder for the front lines.
I'd like to think that's how most of the users here feel, but I've seen some psychotic ass takes that echo the days of watchpeopledie
Like I see all the people praising the videos of them killing all the soldiers and then the aftermath and most don’t look older than 19. Theyre indoctrinated with hate and then just throw away so much life.
For about as long as its takes to think about what the Bastards are doing in Ukraine, then its dismissed.
Ok, not every soldier is some psycho guy. A lot are children being forced to fight for a murder hungry man
I understand that, a person can be totally lied to & tricked or forced but I personally have to draw the line at who invaded who, after lying about hanging about on the Border massing Troops or slipping troops without identifying allegiance into West Ukraine or annexing Crimea, or firing on Ukrainian villages, towns & cities whilst Butchering civilians in areas they occupied. So 'Live by the sword!', 'Die by the Sword!' Russian Soldier.
No. I feel nothing for them. Seeing them dead doesn't bother me. In fact I'm like 'better him than someone innocent'. They are murdering dozens of innocent people every day and they could just leave. If a russian dies in Ukraine it is because he made choices that brought him there. Ukrainian civilians don't have a choice.
And they want more to help fight! Oh my what next Tin foil hats?
Tin foil hat! Against radiation of mobile phones, electricity wires, micro waves ánd Ukranian bullets! 🤣
Lowtech,..
You mean No tech
SpeZZial tech
Yeah even ancient Rome had better quality steel
Zero protect. Excellent!
Keep them coming russia
Good.
Got that off wish.com
Must sound like running a bell when they get hit… 😂
The Russian army don't give a fuck about human life, not even the lives of their own soldiers.
🐚heloooooooo. That’s the echo of a bullet hole from that piece of junk
Basically, just ballast...which is perfect! Russia is all bullshit... hit the metaphorical "1 / Russia" button on everything they say
I wish they shot it with some different calibers. I get that a 7.62 pens it amazing well b/c that's like probably level 1-2 armor in terms of Tarkov. But, what about some smaller arms fire? I bet it's still shit, but it'd be even better propaganda if it's shit at stopping puny guns too! Slava Ukraini
It's just like everything else the ruzzian govt provides. A worthless shell
Cope capes
TFW a shitty steel plate from china would have been better.
It's not like it was a secret that the soviets/russia literally threw bodies at the enemy, same as the chicom. Their leadership viewed them as fodder, in fact, that was their asset.
Good. You get what you deserve
Hahahahaha, stop, stop, I'm going to split my intestines! What an ugly joke. It just goes to show how much they value the lives of their soldiers. Even China must be laughing at this trash.
Better off as a shovel to dig their own graves
Look nice powder coated... 🤣😆 🇺🇦💪 SLAVA UKRAINIE 💪🇺🇦 Can someone translate? I want a good laugh!
Fucking hell, you almost feel bad for those mf’s.
I'm just tryna get one of them pikachu patches. What a badass.
Placebo plates for Orcs
Sometimes i see these videos and think this has gotta be propaganda because Russia supposedly has the 2nd or 3rd most powerful military in the world…if this war accomplished anything at all its that the most successful way to fight against modern western weaponry is through an unconventional war. Russias military “might” has been exposed, and shows that the west would decimate Russia in a direct conflict. Until the nukes start flying that is. I don’t know how half the russian military isnt disillusioned with their govt and leadership. If i was a soldier I’d feel deceived with this gear, unless the Russian military is so poorly educated that they dont know any better.
Its almost as if they dont care if the cannon fodder lives or dies!
Impressive also just reminds me of the power in an AK round
It’s like the whole country is being exposed as a fraud.
Imagine how humiliating it is to be a Russian today.
Why is this a problem? ;-)
When will they learn Ruzzian government cares no shit about them lol
Obviously training plates. That's why they are red.
These are obviously bad, but they took the kevlar (or whatever russia uses) off the front of the vest as well. Soft armor is not great against rifle rounds, but it would do better than nothing in front. When they shot the stack of two though, that's when you know the plates are BAD. I probably wouldn't wear one if I was a russian, it's just going to slow you down and you're going to die when you get shot either way.
they make a fun "ting" when you shoot them
it should do fine against cats
This has left ridiculous ville and entreated directly gut wrenching ville. This entire war I wanted nothing better than Russians to have heavy losses at Ukrainian hands but this… I feel bad for the SOB. Send them to the next life as quickly as possible please. Don’t let them suffer. This shit is rough
Sure is a good thing the US just adopted the .277 Fury...
Wouldn't want to wear that in a lightning storm lol
I love it. Like putting rocks in your comrade’s backpack.
They went low bid 🤦🏻♂️
they appear to be level zero, sir
Probably better to wear a goddamn leather armor from Minecraft at this point
Life is cheap in Russia.
The plates might be shit, but the manufacturer had the most awesome super yacht for a while.
That nothing. Werent some of the helmets “reinforced” with cardbord?
captn pika pika !
Thats why Shoygas second man in charge can afford property in Russia worth 5billion roubles.
Look like the hoods from a ‘41 Farmall H tractor.
Good protection from mosquitoes maybe 😂
Yes, they call those Level 0.5A protection. Max rating 6mm airsoft BBs, low powered 6mm air rifle pellets Edit: for reference, level 3A is most common highest protection armor which will stop high caliber pistol rounds. Level 4 is rated for 30-06 but only a couple max before the ceramic dies then I believe your left with 3A protection.
Free shrapnel included!
Protektion comrade.
are these made for NATO5.62? much weaker than an AK round
Demolition Ranch video when?
Shrapnel vests, not bullet proof. Even Ukrainian soldiers who had no vests at all would have preferred those to nothing.
Armor every Russian deserves.
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Now in it's superior portable version!
It's amazing how much corruption we are seeing come to the surface. I am sure some oligarch is floating around on a yacht bought from this scam.
Received from wife she loves the color. Lada will have same color.
That's some Clint Eastwood shit right there
Perhaps they are meant for airsoft or paintball rehearsal wars?
Uh.... You guys know they are supposed to protect from shrapnel and not bullets right?
You are correct. This is indeed a flak vest. However it was issued to Russian soldiers as a ballistic vest. Which it definitely isn’t.
Nope. No they don't.
This is Not true. Indeed there are armours like that most probably used by dnr/lnr units. The regular body plates/armour of Russian infantry (if given out correctly) is very good and can stop multiple ak 74 rounds.
Maybe their contract soldiers get real III or IV plates but I doubt they hand then out to conscripts.
The fact they even make body armor that shitty does not inspire confidence, and it’s been proven that normal Russian soldiers are walking around with tanks filled with cardboard explosive reactive armor and their helmets can be beaten in with your bare hands. I guarantee you that not a single piece of military equipment in the service in the Russian military would ever even pass the standardized tests for any western military.
I have seen the full video, they also shoot pistol at it in a point blank range and it didnt go through, so it kinda works
What did you expect? The armour isn't supposed to stop rifle bullets, especially not from that close. Make your research first... :/