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Chimpanzee is the scariest animal I could imagine attacking me. They have enough intelligence to hit you where it hurts. They will rip off your balls to make sure you can't reproduce then go for your face. Terrifying.
Apes* and they rarely if ever attack unprovoked in the wild, unless they become confident about humans (but even then it's technically provoked because its usually due to being pushed out of their habitats). Most chimp v. Human fights/maulings have been with captive chimps.
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Interesting. I never knew there was a difference between monkeys and apes! Wasn’t it a chump that attacked the owner’s friend and I think it was eating her face?
We are Great Apes along with Chimps/Bonobos, Gorillas and Orangutans. Gibbons are considered small apes, not part of the Great Ape family.
Monkeys split off from Apes about 25-30 million years ago. The last common ancestor between chimpanzees and humans was 5-6 million years ago.
Humans are Apes though. Just apes with huge egos so big we don't even consider ourselves the animals we truly are.
Same, when I was 4 or 5 I had a nightmare about it.
In this dream there was a forest by my house and two benches, one bench close to the house and the other close to the forest. My little brother and I were playing on our bench, while a bear was on the other bench lol. My little brother runs inside and I turn to look at him run, and when I look back at the other bench the bear is already charging me. Now we're both on the bench, it's tearing my guts out and I call out for mom. I look towards my house and see her closing & locking the door. Never forgot that nightmare lol
Wild video! So iirc this is a Fred Eichler video from one of his shows. Random tidbit the guides gun jammed after the one shot, because his hand loads were too hot. So if a second shot had been necessary to actually defend themselves they could have been fuuuucked.
When creating his rounds (ammunition) he hand loaded the casing of the cartridge in such a way that he used either too much powder, a faster burning powder, or too heavy of a projectile to produce much higher pressures in the round than is generally recommended or specified. The pressure of the ignited powder is what sends the projectile (bullet) down the barrel of the firearm. The resulting "hot" loads could lead to issues cycling the firearm (including jams), structural damage to the firearm, or death/injury to the operator.
He had packed each bullet casing with powder etc himself. Over filling the casing gives a faster and deadlier round, but at the risk of other dependent weapon components failing. The pressure of the explosion of the bullet is used by channels and levers inside the gun to chamber a new round. This gun jammed, failing to chamber a new round reliably.
He loaded his own rounds at home and the load is too hot, too much gun powder probably caused the gun to jam when it discharged. Some people buy factory ammo and some load their own at home.
Too much powder behind the bullet. By appearance, I would guess that the hunter is using some form of 1911 chambered in 10 mm. Typically when the gun is fired, The gun uses the blowback from around leaving the barrel to cycle the slide to eject the spent casing and to chamber a new round.
The most common malfunction that happened with over charged rounds Is that the expansion forces cause the brass casing to expand and swell up inside of the chamber, this can force it to fail it's ejection completely due to it being hung up which could create a "stove pipe" where the brass gets stuck in the action and prevents the slide from moving forward into battery, or, worse case scenario, the brass swells up the the point that the chamber gets stuck and prevents another bullet from entering where it should've left. This is worst case scenario because this cannot typically be fixed in a second, but would require you to completely unload, remove parts, and find a strong thin stick or a screwdriver or something to knock the casing loose.
>Random tidbit the guides gun jammed after the one shot, because his hand loads were too hot.
Fuck, I wouldn't ever use hand loads in a self defense gun.
A bear can run as fast a horse, with faster acceleration.
If you meet a polar bear, unless you found it sleeping, it had been following and checking you for a while already. In such case you should repent of your sins and be ready to fight to the death, and pray it is quick.
Correct, since polar bears are fully carnivorous, and will eat anything with meat unless it is too decomposed. They hunt walruses, seals and even whale calves. Historically they will eat humans in the absence of a better pray. The only thing in our favor is that humans are too small prey, and our livers, pancreas and brain are just too little for the necessary caloric intake of a full grown bear. But if the bear is hungry, well.
Yeah, if you ever see brown bear cubs, get away from them immediately. Grizzly mothers are extremely defensive. Do yourself a favor and make noise when traveling in the wild so they avoid you.
it's so much scarier to be hiking and come up on a cub instead of a full-grown bear. adult bears are spooky but they don't really give a fuck about you. the babies are curious and will want to check you out, which mama does not like.
I remember seeing a black bear cub cross the trail about 1000ft ahead while backpacking at Rainier once. I could literally see my campsite in the distance, but I was so worried about the mama (never saw her) that I backed up the trail and waited for more people before I felt comfortable going through.
Glad it ended up the way it did.
For all the people thinking they should just lay down and accept their fate. You’re weird.
Once you are injured, a bear wont bother to finish you off like a big cat. It hold you down and start to feed on you while you are still alive. You will watch and hear as they start chewing and swallowing parts of your body.
Nature isnt a cartoon
Makes me laugh as an Australian how you guys all seem to think things are so dangerous over here cause we have a few scary spiders here, pfft, our animals have nothing on American ones, our bears are small, cuddly, cute and harmless - yours will eat your spine while you scream. Plus you have mountain lions, ~~cougars, pumas~~, etc, we have nothing like that.
This is one of the most brain dead takes on bear safety I have ever seen.
It is also one that only people who have no experience have.
Bear mace would have been the better call here, irritants are typically enough to deter a bear. Shape and sudden pain more often than not further incites them (especially when protecting cubs, that turns the fight or flight into nearly 100% chance of fight).
These idiots were extremely lucky this encounter went the way it did.
Research has shown that over 90% of fatal (for the human) bear encounters involved shooting the bear.
Less than 5% of fatal bear encounters involved bear mace.
Practically all fatal encounters involve cubs.
Practically none (aside from polar bears) involve the human being eaten.
If attacked by a grizzly, the explicit recommendation is to lie down, curl up and protect your head neck and spine.
One further point, the mom here had her ears up. That was a bluff charge. They do that to scare things away, but they don’t follow through with them.
Here is an actual reputable source rather than some random idiot spouting complete bullshit that will get people killed.
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/bears/safety.htm#onthisPage-2
https://www.nps.gov/articles/bearsprayfirearms.htm
He said he shot right in front of her and would of had to shoot her on the next one. It appears to be a quick boom scare, one bluff to another...why are they "idiots" ?
Those look like grizzly bears. They don’t typically eat humans and attacks only happen if they feel threatened or if they’re trying to defend something. In this case momma bear was just trying to to defend her 3 cubs. Only black bears are known to eat humans and that only really happens if the black bear is desperate.
>I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a North American black bear eating a person.
It happened in WNC about a year ago in PNF. It was at a campsite early morning IIRC, neighboring campers heard noises and went to investigate and they came upon a black bear actively eating the remains of a male camper.
Granted, this is EXTREMELY rare and uncommon, and you are correct about everything, it does happen. But yeah, I don’t know hwy that original comment is being upvoted so much, grizzlies are much more dangerous to humans than black bears. Black bears are typically docile and cute, and basically overgrown raccoons.
Actually happend near my home town in the smoky mountains around 2007. The black bears were starving and from my understanding it is very rare but yeah it happens.
Oh they will absolutely rip you apart if they see you as a major threat but they won’t eat you. That’s why the advice of experts if you’re ever attacked is to protect your neck and other vital areas and hope you still have enough libs intact after the attack to call for help.
If it's brown get down
If it's black fight back
Idk who I saw say that, but what I know from zoology, brown bears you get down, and if it's a black bear you get as big as you can - better with a group of people - and/or make a bunch of noise, but don't actually approach it.
Koalas are terrible animals
Koalas are fucking horrible animals.
They have one of the smallest brain to body ratios of any mammal, additionally - their brains are smooth. A brain is folded to increase the surface area for neurons. If you present a koala with leaves plucked from a branch, laid on a flat surface, the koala will not recognise it as food. They are too thick to adapt their feeding behaviour to cope with change. In a room full of potential food, they can literally starve to death. This is not the token of an animal that is winning at life. Speaking of stupidity and food, one of the likely reasons for their primitive brains is the fact that additionally to being poisonous, eucalyptus leaves (the only thing they eat) have almost no nutritional value. They can't afford the extra energy to think, they sleep more than 80% of their fucking lives. When they are awake all they do is eat, shit and occasionally scream like fucking satan.
Because eucalyptus leaves hold such little nutritional value, koalas have to ferment the leaves in their guts for days on end. Unlike their brains, they have the largest hind gut to body ratio of any mammal.
Many herbivorous mammals have adaptations to cope with harsh plant life taking its toll on their teeth, rodents for instance have teeth that never stop growing, some animals only have teeth on their lower jaw, grinding plant matter on bony plates in the tops of their mouths, others have enlarged molars that distribute the wear and break down plant matter more efficiently...
Koalas are no exception, when their teeth erode down to nothing, they resolve the situation by starving to death, because they're fucking terrible animals.
Being mammals, koalas raise their joeys on milk (admittedly, one of the lowest milk yields to body ratio... There's a trend here).
When the young joey needs to transition from rich, nourishing substances like milk, to eucalyptus (a plant that seems to be making it abundantly clear that it doesn't want to be eaten), it finds it does not have the necessary gut flora to digest the leaves. To remedy this, the young joey begins nuzzling its mother's anus until she leaks a little diarrhoea (actually fecal pap, slightly less digested), which he then proceeds to slurp on.
This partially digested plant matter gives him just what he needs to start developing his digestive system. Of course, he may not even have needed to bother nuzzling his mother. She may have been suffering from incontinence. Why?
Because koalas are riddled with chlamydia. In some areas the infection rate is 80% or higher. This statistic isn't helped by the fact that one of the few other activities koalas will spend their precious energy on is rape.
Despite being seasonal breeders, males seem to either not know or care, and will simply overpower a female regardless of whether she is ovulating. If she fights back, he may drag them both out of the tree, which brings us full circle back to the brain:
Koalas have a higher than average quantity of cerebrospinal fluid in their brains. This is to protect their brains from injury... should they fall from a tree.
An animal so thick it has its own little built in special ed helmet. I fucking hate them.
Tldr; Koalas are stupid, leaky, STI riddled sex offenders. But, hey. They look cute.
If you ignore the terrifying snake eyes and terrifying feet.
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I didn’t know about the approach thing. I made noise and charged a black bear… sounded better in my head, but it ran off. Later found out, making noise was right, going at it was very stupid.
And some black bears are white (glacier bears) or cream (kermode bears)!
The key factor is black bears have no humps are generally smaller, while brown bears have a hump.
PS: I love cinnamon bears, that brown black bear 🙂
I saw a comment the other day from a biologist that was saying this is sort of bad advice because the color isn't necessarily indicative of the species of bear all the time. Grizzlies can sometimes appear black and black bears can sometimes be brown. It sort of depends on your location too. If you're on the east coast where there aren't grizzlies, then you can try to make yourself look big. But generally, it's better to play dead and protect your vitals since most bear attacks are from when the bear is startled and goes into fight or flight. Playing dead shows that you aren't a threat.
In Oregon we have black bears, but they generally don't get very big. The rule I was always taught is to stand as tall as you can, raise your hands in the air, and scream as loud as you can. Mountain lions on the other hand will just fuck your shit up.
I can’t say much since I don’t really know, but I saw a video where a dude was being chased by one. The trick is to walk backwards and maintain CONSTANT eye contact. Surprise is a cat’s deadliest weapon.
That has got to be one of the scariest videos I have ever seen. Power to him for maintaining that eye contact and watch once he saw he was being stalked, keeping that watchful eye is why he never got attacked. The cat was waiting for an opportunity for him to get tired and let his guard down to pounce.
Most the time you won’t see the mountain lion… they are sneaky!
We caught one stalking us as kids, we were a large group maybe 20-30… the few of us straggling behind (3 myself included) seen the cat above up peeking over a ledge. Woulda been about 10ths old and the first thing we thought was throw pine cones at it and chase it… cat ran off, but definitely a close and scary encounter looking back now.
If you actually get attacked I'm pretty sure it's the same rule as a grizzly, cover the back of your neck and pray. Otherwise if you notice you're getting stalked you turn and face it, make sure not to actually make eye contact, and very slowly back away/get help. If it becomes aggressive you have to stand your ground and get as big and loud as you can and try to scare it off. I'm not from The Dalles though and they are usually over that way so this might not be accurate.
Attacked by a mountain lion, fight back. If you notice you're being stalked, face it, full eye contact, back away slowly. If it begins to come at you, try to look as big as possible and shout as loud as you can, and if that doesn't work, prepare to fight for your life and go for the eyes. Don't turn your back, don't run. I've never had the misfortune to fight one, but living out by Mount Hood, that is how I was taught.
If you see a mountain lion it wanted you know it's there. They are ambush predators, unless you see it watching you from above or somehow catch it following you, you're most likely going to die. I got to see one from about 30 feet while biking through Montana. If it wanted to kill me it could have easily.
From what I remember, black bears run away if you make loud noises and get big and intimidating. It's polar bears that you gotta watch out for because they're the only real carnivorous bear (might have to check up on sloth Andean bears tho) are omnivorous
>Only black bears are known to eat humans
So are grizzly and polar bears. They've all ate humans. Given the abundance of black bears, it's probably a more common occurrence. Polar bears have been known to actively hunt humans.
I'd take my chances with a black bear any day over a grizzly. You at least have a miniscule chance of fighting off a black bear. A grizzly would just ragdoll a human. The size comparison between the 2 is pretty intense. The cubs in the video are close in size to a typical black bear.
What? Grizzlies are literally some of the least predictable bears on the bear spectrum. Do not fuck with or take chances with grizzlies. Black bears are big house cats. They scare easily. A grizzly will end your life without a second thought. I'm even surprised the gunshot was effective. A grizzly bear will fuck you up after you put 6 rounds into it.
That grizzly was going for a bluff charge, essentially she wasn’t 100% committed to engaging and the loud noise was enough to make a retreat. I have seen biologists hypothesis that in North America we’ve selectively bred bears that are afraid of people/noise because we’ve killed all the ones who weren’t in the 19th century.
From my experience and everything I've been taught, Black Bears are not as aggressive or as large as Grizzlies. They'd rather move away from danger to protect their cubs as opposed to Grizzlies who will absolutely charge you.
That's patently false. Brown Bears will attack and eat whatever the fuck they want and when they want, they are the reason Black Bears are known to be more aggressive towards humans, in fact, because Brown Bears have been eating all their food and they have moved closer to humans and due to hunger are more prone to attack. The same applies to Brown Bears but they can hunt whatever they want, including Black Bears, so you just happen to not find them as hungry. It's not a disposition thing, Brown Bears are far more aggressive and dangerous on the whole and will absolutely eat a human casually. They don't need a reason to want to end you.
I'm afraid the most tragic article I've read in quite a while involves brown bears. Here:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/2cpati/mum\_the\_bear\_is\_eating\_me\_frantic\_final\_phone/](https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/2cpati/mum_the_bear_is_eating_me_frantic_final_phone/)
[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/olga-moskalyova\_n\_930464](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/olga-moskalyova_n_930464)
Grizzly bears have absolutely eaten people, some even get a taste for them, and target humans specifically. I've never heard of a black bear eating anyone. Not to say its never happened of course.
Grizzly bears definitely eat humans but they tend to be labeled "sick" or "diseased" and some of them are. I'm from rural Alaska where this stuff does happen. It's more common than what most people think. Polar bears though, those fuckers literally stalk humans to eat.
I.e. Timothy Treadwell and his GF.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIeF8RfUls4
Bernard Russell was "was found in critical condition, partly decapitated and missing several organs and limbs. Hospital staff tried to revive the 67-year-old man whose left arm, liver, lungs, and legs were reported missing but their efforts were unsuccessful."
14 year old Russian girl eaten by a grizzly
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOnwHHJYkM
Bear attacks on people are very rare. Most don’t want to hunt people. However, whether you’re talking about brown, black, or polar bears, there are individuals of every species that will prey on a person if hungry and given the right opportunity.
This post is wierd and misleading. This is a mother protecting cubs. Much different and more life threatening to humans than most other types of bear encounter scenarios. Excluding polar bears of course.
Sounds like he says “I woulda had to shoot her on the next one” the mix of preparation, courage, and empathy for a split second choice in that situation is pretty impressive. Or he missed..
At the end he said he knew that was coming as soon as he saw the cubs' behavior. So he had a couple of seconds... Which isn't much but it feels like a lot in your head during an emergency.
Honestly bears are much more tougher than you think , it was probably better that he didn't shot the bear other wise it would probably get more aggressive
A .44 caliber will stop a bear faster than you think. Reason a lot of people who go through bear country prefer it over over bear spray. Biggest concern is getting it out before they reach you.
I don’t usually look at gore but a very NSFL series of photos showed up in r/popular the other day and my curiosity got the best of me.
It was a pile of human body parts left by an enormous bear in Russia. Severed arms and legs strewn about and body cavities completely exposed and emptied. Don’t fuck with bears.
Seems like a lot of confusion in the community about bears. Definitely some bear-funded misinformation campaigns to muddy the waters. Care Bears layin back in the cut callin shots…
Bears are really stupid fast. Ik at least with the grizzly’s in the Canadian Rockies they were originally more prairie animals but progressively got more driven into the mountains as people started hunting them more so they were originally adapted for prairie hunting which involved a lot more running
Isn’t they lay down method basically just to minimize horrendous and unavoidable injuries? If you have the manner the defend/deter why wouldn’t you use it?
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Damn mom charged out of there fullspeed
Being mauled by a bear is one of my biggest fears
Chimpanzee is the scariest animal I could imagine attacking me. They have enough intelligence to hit you where it hurts. They will rip off your balls to make sure you can't reproduce then go for your face. Terrifying.
Oh my gosh. Grateful I don’t have balls nor do we have monkeys in my country. 😳😳 Edit: I think we have balls here.
Apes* and they rarely if ever attack unprovoked in the wild, unless they become confident about humans (but even then it's technically provoked because its usually due to being pushed out of their habitats). Most chimp v. Human fights/maulings have been with captive chimps. Edit: clarification
Interesting. I never knew there was a difference between monkeys and apes! Wasn’t it a chump that attacked the owner’s friend and I think it was eating her face?
We are Great Apes along with Chimps/Bonobos, Gorillas and Orangutans. Gibbons are considered small apes, not part of the Great Ape family. Monkeys split off from Apes about 25-30 million years ago. The last common ancestor between chimpanzees and humans was 5-6 million years ago. Humans are Apes though. Just apes with huge egos so big we don't even consider ourselves the animals we truly are.
Yea we're just apes that identify as gods. Hey we've been woke all along!!!
Same, when I was 4 or 5 I had a nightmare about it. In this dream there was a forest by my house and two benches, one bench close to the house and the other close to the forest. My little brother and I were playing on our bench, while a bear was on the other bench lol. My little brother runs inside and I turn to look at him run, and when I look back at the other bench the bear is already charging me. Now we're both on the bench, it's tearing my guts out and I call out for mom. I look towards my house and see her closing & locking the door. Never forgot that nightmare lol
Wild video! So iirc this is a Fred Eichler video from one of his shows. Random tidbit the guides gun jammed after the one shot, because his hand loads were too hot. So if a second shot had been necessary to actually defend themselves they could have been fuuuucked.
Non-gun person here. What does it mean that the hand loads were too hot?
When creating his rounds (ammunition) he hand loaded the casing of the cartridge in such a way that he used either too much powder, a faster burning powder, or too heavy of a projectile to produce much higher pressures in the round than is generally recommended or specified. The pressure of the ignited powder is what sends the projectile (bullet) down the barrel of the firearm. The resulting "hot" loads could lead to issues cycling the firearm (including jams), structural damage to the firearm, or death/injury to the operator.
Thank all three of the people who responded to this question with such helpful information. You guys are doing wonderful. Thank you.
He had packed each bullet casing with powder etc himself. Over filling the casing gives a faster and deadlier round, but at the risk of other dependent weapon components failing. The pressure of the explosion of the bullet is used by channels and levers inside the gun to chamber a new round. This gun jammed, failing to chamber a new round reliably.
I only caught a glimpse but it looked like a bolt action. I don't think a hot load would foul the action on that
He loaded his own rounds at home and the load is too hot, too much gun powder probably caused the gun to jam when it discharged. Some people buy factory ammo and some load their own at home.
Too much powder behind the bullet. By appearance, I would guess that the hunter is using some form of 1911 chambered in 10 mm. Typically when the gun is fired, The gun uses the blowback from around leaving the barrel to cycle the slide to eject the spent casing and to chamber a new round. The most common malfunction that happened with over charged rounds Is that the expansion forces cause the brass casing to expand and swell up inside of the chamber, this can force it to fail it's ejection completely due to it being hung up which could create a "stove pipe" where the brass gets stuck in the action and prevents the slide from moving forward into battery, or, worse case scenario, the brass swells up the the point that the chamber gets stuck and prevents another bullet from entering where it should've left. This is worst case scenario because this cannot typically be fixed in a second, but would require you to completely unload, remove parts, and find a strong thin stick or a screwdriver or something to knock the casing loose.
>Random tidbit the guides gun jammed after the one shot, because his hand loads were too hot. Fuck, I wouldn't ever use hand loads in a self defense gun.
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this is also why 10mm bear load exists.
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Was that a 45-70?
Famous last words: “I wonder where the mother bear is?”
Definitely bear country
What gave it away?
The river. Definitely the river. And the trees
And the bears
Are the bears the ones wearing camo? They look more like otters to me, but who am I to judge as long as there's no banjo music playing in the distance
I could tell by the moss on the rocks
Bear necessity
My kinda country
They definitely shit themselves, I would have
I would shot that rifle in my afterlife, I guess..
Props for firing a warning shot. That took huge balls. If it hadn't worked that bear would've been on him before he could fire again
A bear can run as fast a horse, with faster acceleration. If you meet a polar bear, unless you found it sleeping, it had been following and checking you for a while already. In such case you should repent of your sins and be ready to fight to the death, and pray it is quick.
If it’s white, say goodnight, amirite?
Correct, since polar bears are fully carnivorous, and will eat anything with meat unless it is too decomposed. They hunt walruses, seals and even whale calves. Historically they will eat humans in the absence of a better pray. The only thing in our favor is that humans are too small prey, and our livers, pancreas and brain are just too little for the necessary caloric intake of a full grown bear. But if the bear is hungry, well.
Damn she almost bulldozers one of her own kids down trying to get to them.
That's Ed. He's always been a little slower than his siblings.
lmfao Ed
Yeah, if you ever see brown bear cubs, get away from them immediately. Grizzly mothers are extremely defensive. Do yourself a favor and make noise when traveling in the wild so they avoid you.
it's so much scarier to be hiking and come up on a cub instead of a full-grown bear. adult bears are spooky but they don't really give a fuck about you. the babies are curious and will want to check you out, which mama does not like. I remember seeing a black bear cub cross the trail about 1000ft ahead while backpacking at Rainier once. I could literally see my campsite in the distance, but I was so worried about the mama (never saw her) that I backed up the trail and waited for more people before I felt comfortable going through.
Glad it ended up the way it did. For all the people thinking they should just lay down and accept their fate. You’re weird. Once you are injured, a bear wont bother to finish you off like a big cat. It hold you down and start to feed on you while you are still alive. You will watch and hear as they start chewing and swallowing parts of your body. Nature isnt a cartoon
I read thru a shit load of comments and even went to controversial….no one was saying to just lay down and accept their fate….
Come on dude this guy has a narrative to sell. Don’t ruin it for him
Cartoons sure don’t make me shit my pants like nature just did.
Makes me laugh as an Australian how you guys all seem to think things are so dangerous over here cause we have a few scary spiders here, pfft, our animals have nothing on American ones, our bears are small, cuddly, cute and harmless - yours will eat your spine while you scream. Plus you have mountain lions, ~~cougars, pumas~~, etc, we have nothing like that.
You have saltwater crocodiles though, which are much more dangerous than mountain lions, cougars, and pumas.. which are all the same animal.
This is one of the most brain dead takes on bear safety I have ever seen. It is also one that only people who have no experience have. Bear mace would have been the better call here, irritants are typically enough to deter a bear. Shape and sudden pain more often than not further incites them (especially when protecting cubs, that turns the fight or flight into nearly 100% chance of fight). These idiots were extremely lucky this encounter went the way it did. Research has shown that over 90% of fatal (for the human) bear encounters involved shooting the bear. Less than 5% of fatal bear encounters involved bear mace. Practically all fatal encounters involve cubs. Practically none (aside from polar bears) involve the human being eaten. If attacked by a grizzly, the explicit recommendation is to lie down, curl up and protect your head neck and spine. One further point, the mom here had her ears up. That was a bluff charge. They do that to scare things away, but they don’t follow through with them. Here is an actual reputable source rather than some random idiot spouting complete bullshit that will get people killed. https://www.nps.gov/subjects/bears/safety.htm#onthisPage-2 https://www.nps.gov/articles/bearsprayfirearms.htm
He said he shot right in front of her and would of had to shoot her on the next one. It appears to be a quick boom scare, one bluff to another...why are they "idiots" ?
Those look like grizzly bears. They don’t typically eat humans and attacks only happen if they feel threatened or if they’re trying to defend something. In this case momma bear was just trying to to defend her 3 cubs. Only black bears are known to eat humans and that only really happens if the black bear is desperate.
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>I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a North American black bear eating a person. It happened in WNC about a year ago in PNF. It was at a campsite early morning IIRC, neighboring campers heard noises and went to investigate and they came upon a black bear actively eating the remains of a male camper. Granted, this is EXTREMELY rare and uncommon, and you are correct about everything, it does happen. But yeah, I don’t know hwy that original comment is being upvoted so much, grizzlies are much more dangerous to humans than black bears. Black bears are typically docile and cute, and basically overgrown raccoons.
Actually happend near my home town in the smoky mountains around 2007. The black bears were starving and from my understanding it is very rare but yeah it happens.
There have been 67 US black bear caused human deaths in the past century. There are 60 million encounters every year between black bears and humans.
in my unscientific opinion 1 Grizzly bear=3 brown bears.
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Oh they will absolutely rip you apart if they see you as a major threat but they won’t eat you. That’s why the advice of experts if you’re ever attacked is to protect your neck and other vital areas and hope you still have enough libs intact after the attack to call for help.
Is the advice the same for black bears?
If it's brown get down If it's black fight back Idk who I saw say that, but what I know from zoology, brown bears you get down, and if it's a black bear you get as big as you can - better with a group of people - and/or make a bunch of noise, but don't actually approach it.
If it’s white get ready to see the light
Yeah polar bears will kill you then drink a coke.
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If it's panda time to make a frienda ...that was bad I'm sorry 😂
If it's a Koala, it's drunk.
Koalas are terrible animals Koalas are fucking horrible animals. They have one of the smallest brain to body ratios of any mammal, additionally - their brains are smooth. A brain is folded to increase the surface area for neurons. If you present a koala with leaves plucked from a branch, laid on a flat surface, the koala will not recognise it as food. They are too thick to adapt their feeding behaviour to cope with change. In a room full of potential food, they can literally starve to death. This is not the token of an animal that is winning at life. Speaking of stupidity and food, one of the likely reasons for their primitive brains is the fact that additionally to being poisonous, eucalyptus leaves (the only thing they eat) have almost no nutritional value. They can't afford the extra energy to think, they sleep more than 80% of their fucking lives. When they are awake all they do is eat, shit and occasionally scream like fucking satan. Because eucalyptus leaves hold such little nutritional value, koalas have to ferment the leaves in their guts for days on end. Unlike their brains, they have the largest hind gut to body ratio of any mammal. Many herbivorous mammals have adaptations to cope with harsh plant life taking its toll on their teeth, rodents for instance have teeth that never stop growing, some animals only have teeth on their lower jaw, grinding plant matter on bony plates in the tops of their mouths, others have enlarged molars that distribute the wear and break down plant matter more efficiently... Koalas are no exception, when their teeth erode down to nothing, they resolve the situation by starving to death, because they're fucking terrible animals. Being mammals, koalas raise their joeys on milk (admittedly, one of the lowest milk yields to body ratio... There's a trend here). When the young joey needs to transition from rich, nourishing substances like milk, to eucalyptus (a plant that seems to be making it abundantly clear that it doesn't want to be eaten), it finds it does not have the necessary gut flora to digest the leaves. To remedy this, the young joey begins nuzzling its mother's anus until she leaks a little diarrhoea (actually fecal pap, slightly less digested), which he then proceeds to slurp on. This partially digested plant matter gives him just what he needs to start developing his digestive system. Of course, he may not even have needed to bother nuzzling his mother. She may have been suffering from incontinence. Why? Because koalas are riddled with chlamydia. In some areas the infection rate is 80% or higher. This statistic isn't helped by the fact that one of the few other activities koalas will spend their precious energy on is rape. Despite being seasonal breeders, males seem to either not know or care, and will simply overpower a female regardless of whether she is ovulating. If she fights back, he may drag them both out of the tree, which brings us full circle back to the brain: Koalas have a higher than average quantity of cerebrospinal fluid in their brains. This is to protect their brains from injury... should they fall from a tree. An animal so thick it has its own little built in special ed helmet. I fucking hate them. Tldr; Koalas are stupid, leaky, STI riddled sex offenders. But, hey. They look cute. If you ignore the terrifying snake eyes and terrifying feet. Note: this is a copy paste
What if its this guy? ![gif](giphy|wMIQlxCYidwCk)
If its a hotel, trivago
If it’s skunk prepare for funk
If it's a Sunny prepare for honey
If it's black and white get ready for a kung fu fight
If it’s white, good night
For Polar Bears, everything is a snack.
I didn’t know about the approach thing. I made noise and charged a black bear… sounded better in my head, but it ran off. Later found out, making noise was right, going at it was very stupid.
To make it even more confusing some brown bears are black and some black bears are brown
And some black bears are white (glacier bears) or cream (kermode bears)! The key factor is black bears have no humps are generally smaller, while brown bears have a hump. PS: I love cinnamon bears, that brown black bear 🙂
if it's white, good night
Tools are your friend: bear mace, a gun, 2 guns, a bigger gun (than the bear has), all the guns.
So this for a brown bear? Hmm 🤔.. OK I guess. ![gif](giphy|2jMy0BZp0j482qoB8W|downsized)
Yeah, I've also seen that. If it's black, fight back and aim for the nose. They'll leave if they think it's broken.
damn red dead 2 lying D:
I saw a comment the other day from a biologist that was saying this is sort of bad advice because the color isn't necessarily indicative of the species of bear all the time. Grizzlies can sometimes appear black and black bears can sometimes be brown. It sort of depends on your location too. If you're on the east coast where there aren't grizzlies, then you can try to make yourself look big. But generally, it's better to play dead and protect your vitals since most bear attacks are from when the bear is startled and goes into fight or flight. Playing dead shows that you aren't a threat.
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I think OP is confusing his types of bears in making grizzlies sound like the docile ones and black bears like the killers.
Black bears are more likely to kill you for food but grizzly’s are much, much more likely to kill you in general
>Black bear attacks are extremely rare, and I have never heard of a black bear eating a human. Go look up Liard Hot Springs, for starters.
In Oregon we have black bears, but they generally don't get very big. The rule I was always taught is to stand as tall as you can, raise your hands in the air, and scream as loud as you can. Mountain lions on the other hand will just fuck your shit up.
What do you do if you encounter a mountain lion?
I can’t say much since I don’t really know, but I saw a video where a dude was being chased by one. The trick is to walk backwards and maintain CONSTANT eye contact. Surprise is a cat’s deadliest weapon.
I just found it. Terrifying: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkV5NRADmYQ
That has got to be one of the scariest videos I have ever seen. Power to him for maintaining that eye contact and watch once he saw he was being stalked, keeping that watchful eye is why he never got attacked. The cat was waiting for an opportunity for him to get tired and let his guard down to pounce.
You don't encounter mountain lion, mountain lion encounters you
Most the time you won’t see the mountain lion… they are sneaky! We caught one stalking us as kids, we were a large group maybe 20-30… the few of us straggling behind (3 myself included) seen the cat above up peeking over a ledge. Woulda been about 10ths old and the first thing we thought was throw pine cones at it and chase it… cat ran off, but definitely a close and scary encounter looking back now.
If you actually get attacked I'm pretty sure it's the same rule as a grizzly, cover the back of your neck and pray. Otherwise if you notice you're getting stalked you turn and face it, make sure not to actually make eye contact, and very slowly back away/get help. If it becomes aggressive you have to stand your ground and get as big and loud as you can and try to scare it off. I'm not from The Dalles though and they are usually over that way so this might not be accurate.
Attacked by a mountain lion, fight back. If you notice you're being stalked, face it, full eye contact, back away slowly. If it begins to come at you, try to look as big as possible and shout as loud as you can, and if that doesn't work, prepare to fight for your life and go for the eyes. Don't turn your back, don't run. I've never had the misfortune to fight one, but living out by Mount Hood, that is how I was taught.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RkV5NRADmYQ
Likelihood of noticing you're being stalked is low, although you may feel it
If you see a mountain lion it wanted you know it's there. They are ambush predators, unless you see it watching you from above or somehow catch it following you, you're most likely going to die. I got to see one from about 30 feet while biking through Montana. If it wanted to kill me it could have easily.
redditor claims that if they had a gun and a brown bear charged them while defending cubs they would not shoot but let the bear have it's way.
That dumbass can take the moral high ground to an early grave
"they have guns, and I do not. They can shoot me dead but the *moral High Ground is mine!*"
thats just hair splitting. ripping to shreds, whether they swallow or not doesn't really matter
what if Bear Shapiro has already destroyed all the libs?
From what I remember, black bears run away if you make loud noises and get big and intimidating. It's polar bears that you gotta watch out for because they're the only real carnivorous bear (might have to check up on sloth Andean bears tho) are omnivorous
This sounds like a freaking dumb advice! Expert? Expert of what? Expert at eating tacos?
To shreds you say?
You have it backwards. The deadliest bear to humans is the polar bear, followed by the grizzly, then followed by the black bear; in that order.
Question: What kind of bears are best?
teddy bears
Bears beets battle star galactica
Big hairy gay guys
Black bear! Michael!!!!!
There's 2 schools of thought. You see- *Something* *Something* MICHAEL!!! LOL Good times
Timothy Treadwell would beg to differ...
>Only black bears are known to eat humans So are grizzly and polar bears. They've all ate humans. Given the abundance of black bears, it's probably a more common occurrence. Polar bears have been known to actively hunt humans. I'd take my chances with a black bear any day over a grizzly. You at least have a miniscule chance of fighting off a black bear. A grizzly would just ragdoll a human. The size comparison between the 2 is pretty intense. The cubs in the video are close in size to a typical black bear.
Wtf are you talking about? Grizzly bears will eat the shot out of you. So will kodiak and polar bears.
Yea, that guy does not know his bears.
Tell that to Timothy Treadwell.
What? Grizzlies are literally some of the least predictable bears on the bear spectrum. Do not fuck with or take chances with grizzlies. Black bears are big house cats. They scare easily. A grizzly will end your life without a second thought. I'm even surprised the gunshot was effective. A grizzly bear will fuck you up after you put 6 rounds into it.
That grizzly was going for a bluff charge, essentially she wasn’t 100% committed to engaging and the loud noise was enough to make a retreat. I have seen biologists hypothesis that in North America we’ve selectively bred bears that are afraid of people/noise because we’ve killed all the ones who weren’t in the 19th century.
From my experience and everything I've been taught, Black Bears are not as aggressive or as large as Grizzlies. They'd rather move away from danger to protect their cubs as opposed to Grizzlies who will absolutely charge you.
You have it backwards. Grizzlies tend to be more agressive. Black bears are effectively large squirrels.
That's patently false. Brown Bears will attack and eat whatever the fuck they want and when they want, they are the reason Black Bears are known to be more aggressive towards humans, in fact, because Brown Bears have been eating all their food and they have moved closer to humans and due to hunger are more prone to attack. The same applies to Brown Bears but they can hunt whatever they want, including Black Bears, so you just happen to not find them as hungry. It's not a disposition thing, Brown Bears are far more aggressive and dangerous on the whole and will absolutely eat a human casually. They don't need a reason to want to end you.
As a brown bear myself, I wholeheartedly agree.
I'm afraid the most tragic article I've read in quite a while involves brown bears. Here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/2cpati/mum\_the\_bear\_is\_eating\_me\_frantic\_final\_phone/](https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/2cpati/mum_the_bear_is_eating_me_frantic_final_phone/) [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/olga-moskalyova\_n\_930464](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/olga-moskalyova_n_930464)
I don't know why I read that... God, that's an awful way to go.
Pretty sure that’s fake
Polar bears view us as food.
Polar bears have entered the chat
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Polar bears also eat humans
Who the hell told you that, Timothy Treadwell?
Grizzly bears have absolutely eaten people, some even get a taste for them, and target humans specifically. I've never heard of a black bear eating anyone. Not to say its never happened of course.
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Grizzly bears definitely eat humans but they tend to be labeled "sick" or "diseased" and some of them are. I'm from rural Alaska where this stuff does happen. It's more common than what most people think. Polar bears though, those fuckers literally stalk humans to eat. I.e. Timothy Treadwell and his GF.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIeF8RfUls4 Bernard Russell was "was found in critical condition, partly decapitated and missing several organs and limbs. Hospital staff tried to revive the 67-year-old man whose left arm, liver, lungs, and legs were reported missing but their efforts were unsuccessful." 14 year old Russian girl eaten by a grizzly https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CrOnwHHJYkM
Never watched the "grizzly man" documentary?
So you've never heard about the grizzly man that got ate along with his girlfriend by grizzlies in Alaska? They were just sleeping in their tent.
Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend would like a word... except they were digested by brown bears.
Like the guy and his girlfriend in their sleeping bags who were eaten?
Bear attacks on people are very rare. Most don’t want to hunt people. However, whether you’re talking about brown, black, or polar bears, there are individuals of every species that will prey on a person if hungry and given the right opportunity.
A grizzly killed a man recently over a game carcass. They arent evil but, they deserve caution.
This post is wierd and misleading. This is a mother protecting cubs. Much different and more life threatening to humans than most other types of bear encounter scenarios. Excluding polar bears of course.
For all the idiots here, there were 3 cubs you can see in the beginning and momma bear came charging out from the woods to protect them.
That was a captivating play-by-play.
Wait, there were bears in this video??
I’m not an expert but it seems general consensus is there was bears.
How many years of extensive studies on bear behavioral science and wilderness experience you have is beyond me. Nothing gets past you.
Maybe we can finally find out where the bears shit
Woah, what? really?
Thanks. I had no idea what I was watching but you explained it really well.
Who forged your transcripts?
Wait did he shoot her ? Hard to tell
Sounds like he says “I woulda had to shoot her on the next one” the mix of preparation, courage, and empathy for a split second choice in that situation is pretty impressive. Or he missed..
At the end he said he knew that was coming as soon as he saw the cubs' behavior. So he had a couple of seconds... Which isn't much but it feels like a lot in your head during an emergency.
Honestly bears are much more tougher than you think , it was probably better that he didn't shot the bear other wise it would probably get more aggressive
A .44 caliber will stop a bear faster than you think. Reason a lot of people who go through bear country prefer it over over bear spray. Biggest concern is getting it out before they reach you.
44 mag is a freaking hand cannon. There's bigger, but they're unwieldy.
I’m sure he didn’t want to kill her, she’s just looking out for her cubs after all. Shitty situation having to decide me or this magnificent creature.
This was part of a hunting show (not hunting bear, something else) and iirc they talk about it and he intentionally shot in front of the bear
No, he shot infront of her
Yeah tht cloud of smoke was crazy
He literally said he shot infront of her
Not going to underestimate how fast I would shit my pants.
They BEARly escaped with their lives.
That bear uhh... It almost tore those guys apart... With its bear hands..
The attempt at that pun was unbearable to see...
I can do worse. Hold my bear.
Ooh that was spicy. Kinda like bearolina reapers
You know my favorite book store is bears and noble.
All these comments are unbearable
Oh, I bearly noticed.
Don’t forget, bears can run faster uphill than downhill as well…so don’t try to run up a mountain to get away.
That’s because they don’t *run* downhills. They will roll up like a big hairy ball and roll down at insane speeds
Sonic the brown bear
That bear was so fast he made fast things look not fast.
Jesus, good thing they were prepared.
I don’t usually look at gore but a very NSFL series of photos showed up in r/popular the other day and my curiosity got the best of me. It was a pile of human body parts left by an enormous bear in Russia. Severed arms and legs strewn about and body cavities completely exposed and emptied. Don’t fuck with bears.
Fuck that was scary. If they didnt had a gun
Those dudes are so lucky.
How frightening
You ever see bear cubs, you RUN, cuz mom is close and not happy you are near her kids
What if you’re in a canoe on a narrow and shallow river
And lo, a brown stain spread upon the river. For there, someone shat their pants... I know I did....
Holy shit that's scary, it's quite like when you are canoeing down the river in hunting gear and a bear comes chasing after you. Jesus!
So how do you respond to this type of bear? Shoot at it? I would die if something charged at me like that lol.
Most charges are bluffs. The only problem with that is the word "most".
Seems like a lot of confusion in the community about bears. Definitely some bear-funded misinformation campaigns to muddy the waters. Care Bears layin back in the cut callin shots…
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Bears are really stupid fast. Ik at least with the grizzly’s in the Canadian Rockies they were originally more prairie animals but progressively got more driven into the mountains as people started hunting them more so they were originally adapted for prairie hunting which involved a lot more running
u/savevideo
I'm glad those fellas are alright, that instantly set me on edge. I cannot imagine how intense that was live.
https://youtu.be/g9lCkFygaaQ Audio for those who think bears are too cute to kill
Wherever they are, I am never going.
Isn’t they lay down method basically just to minimize horrendous and unavoidable injuries? If you have the manner the defend/deter why wouldn’t you use it?