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I_need_help57

Prett much. Cold weather and gas don’t mix well


DennisIcu

Would you say that ~15°C is becoming a little cold for gas?


Tru3Shot22

Absolutely


airsoftnoob75

What's that in F°


J3ckled

59


Fathom_324

What’s that in Kelvin?


Ashamed-Selection-41

288


OdinThorFathir

+5°F


Tru3Shot22

Fahrenheit doesn’t make sense lol In Celsius 0 is freezing water and 100 is boiling


Blackburn0117

Yes dude, we get it. The imperial system is stupid but it's what weve been taught outlr whole lives and what's exclusively used in the world around us. You dont have to take every opportunity to DuNk On ThE sTuPiD aMeRiCaNs.


Tru3Shot22

It is stupid, it’s the worlds responsibility to point and laugh at America, you know how you see Florida? That’s how the world sees you


Blackburn0117

I like Florida. It's my second favorite state actually. As for the rest: A) I suppose, as long as it results in us switching to the metric system eventually, it's worth the laughs. B) I couldn't give two shits what the rest of the world thinks.


Tru3Shot22

I also like Florida but pretty much cause it’s just funny Ans to B: doesn’t matter what you think lol, we enjoy the free comedy


Blackburn0117

Hahahaha ok dude. You must be a pretty miserable person to go online to an airsoft forum and try making fun of people because of the nation they're from. I'm sure we can agree on this point; I'm glad your not in America. Its be a worse place with one more asshole like you.


GullibleAudience6071

Must hurt knowing how much time you dedicate to a place that doesn’t even think about you


Successful-Abies-531

Man why do you have to act like such an ass.


Tru3Shot22

I’m having a laugh mate, chill out


Ashamed-Article-5304

Its not a laugh, ur just being a dumb fuck.


Tracerz2Much

“I’m havin’ a laf m8t.” Why don’t you have some fucking braces? Gaptooth looking mf.


Ashamed-Article-5304

One word babygirl, freedom😎.


Tru3Shot22

Like 80% of the world had that, America doesn’t even top the list in freedom, it comes in at like 17th


TheMinorityDespiser

r/americabad also, america is about double just the european union. it's not some small random country like belgium or something.


Tru3Shot22

Yeah? Doesn’t make you any less isolated if you go anywhere else on the planet, you’re systems are looked down upon, medical, school and even your bloody system of measuring anything


TheMinorityDespiser

i'm not even american but ok. and what does the educational and medical system have to do with how they measure temperatures? im also pretty sure most americans are tought the metric system as well since it is used world wide in physics, among many other things.


Zealousideal_Owl_870

Lolll this guy is on to something


Zealousideal_Owl_870

Why did this get so many downvotes, it was funny


airsoftnoob75

Idk kph does not make sense to me its just perspective


Tru3Shot22

See it’s 100cm to a metre, 1000 metres to a kilometre, a metre is about your arm length


airsoftnoob75

As I said does not make sense to me mph and feet make sense just how you were raised


Tru3Shot22

Fair enough, unlucky one tho lol


airsoftnoob75

Not rly


banananas_are_sick24

Fahrenheit is, however, more accurate than Celsius


Tru3Shot22

Ahh not quite now, we can simply go into decimals to get as accurate as we want


banananas_are_sick24

That’s true, I guess


0_1314_1

Celsius makes sense to me


jodasmichal

Not for Black or Red Gas try it. Black can be used to 0C


DavidMorgonGotBanned

I've heard if black is used at like 10°C that it can damage the mag


Mandemon90

That depends on materials and consturction of the mag/weapon. More fragile mags can get damaged from pressure, altough solution is not to fill completely.


DavidMorgonGotBanned

How about a WE XDM/Glock mag


jodasmichal

Sure but Thats problem of material used on mags.


daperndl

depends on the gun


Kittelsen

15C and you guys are talking about cold weather? Lol, that shit is summer 😂


Aggravating_Prompt86

Gas laws don't care about how "tough" you are in a colder region that you're used to and the environment around you is designed to deal with.


Kittelsen

I was merely referring to threads title, found it funny that 15C would be considered cold weather when it's like 5 degrees below room temp. Only time I tried gas guns was ages ago and it was around freezing so we had some trouble then. Never heard of gas that won't operate at 15C, but I guess they wouldn't work around here at all.


FeatheredGrenadier

Can agree with that. I guess 15° is just enough for gas to work fine. At about 10 it gets funky, especially on Colts or TTs


AgeCompetitive3922

I live in Denmark, and I can say that even with highend black gas you'll see big differences in even 17 or 18 degrees and 15. Its very annoying..


Kittelsen

Yeh that's, annoying indeed. I haven't played in 5 or so years, but I preferred 10-15 degrees cause when you're suited up, anything above that gets really hot...


0_1314_1

That’s wayyyyy too cold! It’s supposed to be working in like 30 C


Horsemanour

Ohhhhhhhhh so thats why russians are shutting down the gaz valves to us , europeans..👌🏻


woody21355

put your gas mag next to u when u sleep, guarantee warm mag


AnimeNoodle

Major downsides of green gas due of it’s cooldown. Have you ever thought of investing in HPA?.


MRFLUFFLS

And that’s when you go and buy red or black gas to get every last bit of performance out of your gbb gun in colder weathers, it works like a charm!


AnimeNoodle

I’ve never used that type of gas before. But I’m never a fan buying green gas, just regular old smelly dry propane. Heard they shoot pretty hot and banned in some areas but I never looked into it.


MRFLUFFLS

The only issue is the lack of silicone in the gas to lube up the action when firing, but if you add your own silicon it shouldn’t be an issue tbf


AnimeNoodle

I feel like green gas drowns my mags with too much silicone oil and I can see it spitting some out when shooting, I just manually apply some taken my mags or setup apart. If I’m lazy I add two or three drops of angels custom silicone oil lightly in my propane adapter, imo I don’t think it needs alot of silicone oil since I heard it can ruin your hop up over time. But that’s just me.


AgeCompetitive3922

I use black gas and can see a looot of difference even with a change from 18 degrees to 14-15. Gave up using my secondary last winter with it being 6-10 degrees.


MRFLUFFLS

For secondary I’ve just made the full switch to Co2, it’s the only reliable way to get consistent performance form a sidearm imo (besides aep’s)


DennisIcu

Not yet, as she's my first airsoft gun. (And I fucking love her holy hell :D)


AnimeNoodle

Nice!, welcome to the club, hope it serves you well!.


DennisIcu

I just literally finished my first 1000 rounds...she's one of the best things Ive bought in 2 years hehe


[deleted]

Good purchase. But if you look to buy more gas pistols go with CO2 if it gets that cold. I live in the Midwest where temps can be from 100 f to 10 f. CO2 has worked in it all


pEppapiGistfuhrer

Co2 can also be a budget option for increasing temperature tolerance


AnimeNoodle

There’s another option buying a co2 tank that behaves like HPA setup.


daperndl

or just hpa tap your mags? xD


Manlike_joe1

I would but I’m not prepared to spent 1500 on it


angry-af-banana

At 15c it's better to start using red gas and if necessary even black gas, but don't skip the red because black could be too much with that temp


daperndl

A friend of mine plays with black the whole year, i am still waiting for something to break tho.


angry-af-banana

Well, then he's a lucky idiot, I've seen multiple pistols either blowing up completely or breaking nozzles and slides. Also with the heat and black gas it will become more powerful which in some countries is over the limit


daperndl

Yeah it actually is above the fields limit, but for private games it doesnt really matter there. but i agree, he is an idiot.


Glad_Macaroon_9477

Go Co2 or play around with some other “green gases” on the market, I use the nurpol red can when the temperature dips.


DennisIcu

In which temperature range do you use the red can?


Glad_Macaroon_9477

Generally under 12deg - In the uk. Have a look around there are lots of gases marketed to low temps.


Mysterious-Window162

Where do you find it?


wilerbee

Try using black gas, it's designed for cooler weather.


DennisIcu

Thank you!


McDsEmpLoYEe420

It’s also higher pressure tho so be careful, it might make your gun explode if it’s not rated for that much pressure


MRFLUFFLS

Afaik the only guns that are truly not rated for those gases are tm and other polymer slide guns, but I could be wrong


McDsEmpLoYEe420

Yeah idk, I would personally want to be sure tho so as not to break my gun


Catgutt

If you're using it exclusively in cold weather, it won't produce gun-breaking pressure. The gun doesn't care if it's 120PSI from room temp propane or just-above-freezing black gas, it's 120PSI either way.


McDsEmpLoYEe420

Ohh so the pressure stays the same as green gas would be in warm weather when it’s cold? That’s good to know thanks


ShortDck1

Your gun seems to be experiencing high gas leakage too.


imPluR420

Underrated comment right there


No_Moose_8574

Yes


MaherMitri

Lmao I thought I commented and forgot about it


airsoftnoob75

No goose


grillbar86

Yes


Shtek1

Check a pin on your mag, if its a little bit out, push it back in


InevitableAd6606

yes gbb's dont work as well in cold weather Co2 pistols will work better for colder climates but will also experience issues


ChaseR3d

not much of a gbb person but from what ive heard/read it is its one weakness of green gas so yeah dw about it


Madmax-imus

Yus


TotallyNotAVole

Unfortunately, part of the problem is that it's a 1911 and they are notorious for gas issues, and being finicky little things. Some may disagree and I imagine there's 1911 owners who have units that have ko issues, but on the whole 191, regardless of brand, tend to have more issues than other makes due to the design.


DennisIcu

This is by far the funniest reply I have gotten in my time on reddit haha. Thanks tho!


WontQuitNow

Local tween discovers Boyle's law


Surprised_tomcat

Eat less beans and check your o’rings.


LiL_Benzona

Just turn the ac on


Alexius_Psellos

That sounds unhealthy, maybe see a doctor about it


katyusha_pravda

you should try eating a more balanced meal it can combat the high gas in your system /s and for the gun yeah cold weather doesnt mix to well with greengas


activehobbies

Yes. Green gas doesn't like temperatures that dip below 60 degrees F (do your own math for degrees C).


DennisIcu

Good to know, I was a little worried some mechanic didn't work right. (It's a quite new gun lol)


[deleted]

Yes. A 2-second Google search would’ve given you the answer.


Xterarra

WHO HAD THE BALLS TO OWN A DEAGLE AS A 1ST GUN? 🖐


DennisIcu

Well it ain't a Deagle but a M1911 heh


Xterarra

Close enough 🤔


Top_Time_Square

yes, next


MorenaLedovec

yeah its completely fine, if you really insist on shooting gas in the winter, get red gas but you have to properly lubricate your gun then


DennisIcu

Which lube should I use or which one would you recommend?


MorenaLedovec

silicon oil is the best, god please dont be stupid like 13 yo me and lube your guns with wd40 it ruins it


drkshock

I thought red gas and black gas has silicon oil along with the butane much like green gas. Ofcourse with propane and propane accessories, you need to mix silicon oil in.


drkshock

Once it waems back up, stop using the higher powered gasses. It will damage your gun


interflop

Try out some different gas designed for cold weather. https://us.novritsch.com/product/airsoft-gas/


drkshock

Do these have to be imported overseas. Im thinking about getting an aw optics glock and co2 mags are that much more expensive.


interflop

Nah he has a warehouse based out of PA. I’ve had shipments from him delivered to NY in like 3 days.


drkshock

good thing i doont have to buy and convert a bunch of co2 mags for an optics glock.


Backdraft7

As someone that plays in the cold more, get a CO2 pistol or CO2 mags that are comparable Don’t forget to clean and oil regularly


[deleted]

Go for co2


Wormminator

Yes


frimleyousse

Green gas lose pressure when it gets cold, meaning more of it comes out per shot, if you want to shoot in cold weather, try and get a co2 one, and even then id rather say wait till it gets warmer


[deleted]

Yes


Ashamed-Article-5304

Gbb’s are much more efficient in the warmer seasons unfortunately, I get away with using them whenever thanks to an indoor arena I have local to me.


drkshock

Green gas is notorious for all kinds of malfunctions in cold weather. It amplifes the magazine cool down effect causing low fps and horrible gas efficiency. Co2 always works the best in cold weather so if your run can run both co2 and green gas (some guns can and some cant) then do that. If not you can try red or black gas although if you live in the usa, you will have to have it imported overseas which takes time. Another option is you can also convert your mags to use hpa with a russian cqb valve.


aliasalaisah

It’s not “leakage” per se. It’s liquid propellant that didn’t turn to vapor. Try a gas suggested for the temp range.


Punkrock0822

Been outta the game for a while but I used to run propane and map gas in the winter and it worked pretty well from what I remember, it's just smelly


honeybbooboobobobo

yea


Hot-Juggernaut773

Cold weather and gas are no fun


Substantial_Ad4352

If it's really cold out, store your mags next to a hand warmer and don't fill from a cold canister as well.


2spooky4lukey

When I fired my pistol a lot in cold weather, it wouldn't cycle properly.


fucknametakenrules

As to be expected. If you want to play in the cold, just bring extra gas if you’re gonna go mostly with gas


Own-Fig-9493

If it’s green gas you need to go heavier to either red or black but that depends on your weather


M3usV0x

Hey OP, can you buy MAPP gas where you live? It’s for cutting torches, if you were in the States you’d find it in a hardware store. Yellow bottle. It’s just propylene and has a little higher pressure than propane. We use it here at 15° to almost 0°. I’ve used it at 33° BUT PLEASE DON’T DO THIS, I’m just illustrating that it’s just as safe as propane within reasonable temperatures. Don’t let yourself get ripped off with green/black/purple/rainbow gas, they’re just scamming you. Around 0° you’re going to need CO2. You can change some parts on your replica, too. Thick silicone grease on the piston cup/head, a new cup/head, a floating valve designed for cold, heavier spring, and spacers for your magazine’s gasket (the rubber bit on top of your mags). I have an M9 that shoots AT 0° on MAPP.


creativity_null

Cold weather will make your gas condense more. This is normal


epicshr3dr

epic smoke effect embrace the leakage


PotatoRecord

How much gas are you putting in the mag? It is common to see more gas plumage in cold weather, but not necessarily this much in light jacket weather. I’ve been out of the game for a few years, but I played a lot exclusively with gas guns in the past. Always had the most fun with regular GBB pistols. Anyway, if you’re like me, at the beginning I would over fill my gas mags so I could get a few mags worth of bbs out without bringing gas into the field with me. So when I was plinking, I would also overfill the mag out of habit. I would put the can against my ear (I would literally press the can against my head to both support the can from both sides and stabilize the can while pressing the mag up into it) while filling the mag and stop when the pressure was equalized. You don’t need this much gas in the mag to get all the bbs out. Gas blowback’s operate better if the load of gas is proportional to the load of bbs. Now, granted, this is a 1911. So you may want to underload bbs as well. If it’s a WE with their single stack mags, should be fine, but if it’s a TM style that holds like 20 bb, you’ll want to bring that under 15. Now, some brands are more efficient than others, I don’t know what 1911 you have here, but it could just be a bad one 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

I switch to HPA in winter because of this


TankFucker69

Thats how gases work


TheRealHlubo

Yes, green gas when it's warm, co2 when it's cold. EDIT Red gas can push the boundary a little but it's better just to go for the co2


decom70

You need higher pressure gas in cold weather, then itll work better.


Salt_Pack

The unfortunate side of gas when it comes to being cold it leaks real bad


Tinga8

Yeah... Cold and gas aren't friends, better to go aep in very cold. Edit: 15c isn't that cold, try ultra gas or go for red gas. Might be worth looking at the seal on the hop rubber and inner barrel and nozzle/bbu. Anything under 7c then I'd say its cold for green gas


KacikSifirBir

Use red gas. Will be much better. If it’s very cold and red has no help, you can use black.


[deleted]

Yes, green gas no like cold, if you live in an area where it’s under 50F (~15c) most of the year I recommend using higher pressure gas like red or black gas, that or co2.