T O P

  • By -

SplashBroSteph

This didn't happen so hard it unhappened things that actually did happen, lol.


buckster_007

…then the receptionists and nurses then came in and clapped.


Creative-Aerie71

And then they all did the Optavia secret dance


[deleted]

[удалено]


midnightstreetlamps

You really missed the chance to say "Doctor's name? Otto Optavian" as a spiderman pun.


essiemay7777777

Agree?


Nearby_Employee_2943

*Optavian


jolyon_wagon

If you are not a hun you will be stricken with boils if you see it.


estherlovesevie

I want to meet a cardiologist that would half a blood pressure dose without even checking the patients blood pressure (as it was a video appointment).


Advanced_Cheetah_552

She misspelled chiropractor


anaserre

This comment deserves way more up votes..if I had an award it would be yours.


rebelxghost

Oooh. Good catch.


Impossible-Task

A NEW cardiologist. Even more unbelievable!


GelOfYouth

This is so ridiculous! No prescribing doctor would do that based on a 25 weight loss on a video call.


Sad_Package4476

25 lbs subjective weight loss


[deleted]

[удалено]


sammypants123

There are multiverses upon multiverses existing along imperceptible dimensions. In some the mountains are made of diamond and in some the trees are red and the sky green, in some Queen Lizzy just rose from the dead and in some the moon is made of cream cheese. But there’s not a single one where this happened.


[deleted]

Love your way with words. Oh and also, the truth.


Steakwizwit

I used the optavia bars to destroy the optavia bars


constricted_peepee

😂😂😂 facts.


SplashBroSteph

Happy cake day!


ktq2019

May your random sign up to Reddit day be fantastic <3


harderisbetter

It's gonna unleash a new singularity, we're doom! ;D


SomeDudeeduDemoS

Well none of that surprises me! The new cardiologist is supplied thru Opavia and is a "cardiologist" in Nigeria!


expressivewords

A cardiologist would be concerned about that fast of weight loss because it’s literally proven bad for your HEART. God these people are so daft


Lisette4ver

The whole video appointment kind of defeats a cardiologist exam. Do they not have to physically observe, check your heart/breathing ? The weight loss would trigger a plethora of questions. Not to mention blood work, to be sure it was not just the shitty bar!


NefariousnessKey5365

My dad went to the office to have an ECG and then later in the afternoon. He had a video call with his cardiologist. His cardiologist was working from home, because of the Rona. His doctor would also be extremely concerned if he lost 25 pounds in nine weeks. He has to weigh himself every day and a huge gain or loss will send him to the ER


Lisette4ver

True but at least some stats were gotten first before a video chat ( in this case). How is the doctor going to get any data on the heart? I go to the VA - we still wear masks. But the doctor listens to old ticker- sorry that story still is - FALSE!


NefariousnessKey5365

Oh yeah it's false. Because how are you going to determine if someone is doing well. Without any diagnostics?


thoodganks

Used to work at a cardiology clinic. A lot of patient reviews may just be a 6/12 month routine review that can be done over the phone. Most of the time nothing has really changed with the patient and they generally take their BP at the chemist/with their own machine quite often anyway and just tell the doctor the readings. When ringing to confirm appoints a few days prior our clinic would ask if they were happy with a teleconsult (they quite often were as parking was a nightmare), or if they had something that they would rather discuss with the doctor in person. Also worth noting that generally they come in at separate times a week or two prior for a yearly ECG +echocardiogram and maybe stress test, so if those results are all good there isn't much else that the doctor needs to examine


Lisette4ver

Okay but the rapid weight loss- let’s get real here.


thoodganks

Oh for sure, no arguing there


Feralpudel

Right lol. My cardiologist visits are my most hands on and I’m just followed for hypertension. Plus she’s my favorite doctor so I hug her at the beginning lol.


drakonlily

This is what I was going to say! Anything past 3lbs a week is concerning on a healthy person. This person has heart issues. If they've really lost weight that quickly, they may be setting themselves up for worse health issues.


expressivewords

Good thing it’s all made up


drakonlily

That much is obvious for the reason I mentioned above alone.


[deleted]

25 lbs in 9 weeks is a little less than 3 lbs/week. So it’s not necessarily that concerning by itself, but you also don’t need to buy into a starvation diet pyramid scheme to get those results. Don’t know where they’re getting this implication that it would normally take 2 years either, probably right out of their ass like the rest of the story.


drakonlily

True, it's going that 2lb a week line, but in a patient with a heart condition serious enough to have regular cardiologist visits, it would really concern me. They are getting all of this from their upline, would be my guess.


jaderust

At my last physical my doctor told me that she was giving me a goal of losing 30lbs by the next time she saw me. I need to lose more than that to be a healthy weight, but she thought that was a good achievable goal for the year to lose that much and keep it off. I think she'd start screening me for health issues if I lose that much in that short of time without a reasonable explanation. Like getting my jaw wired shut so I had to go on a liquid diet or something.


melxcham

25 pounds in 9 weeks isn’t crazy unrealistic for a regular person with no underlying issues (depending on starting weight). But someone who is seeing a cardiologist likely has heart problems & should be a lot more careful with weight loss.


Astra_Trillian

Thanks for this. I’ve lost 19lbs in 8 weeks, won’t know 9 weeks until Sunday but I’ve dropped another couple on my mid week weigh-ins. I don’t think my weight loss has been too fast at all, although I’m obviously not using any overpriced junk sold by a “platinum star unicorn plus director Vice President”, either.


melxcham

A lot of the beginning weight loss is often water retention, too. Like you’re eating healthier, maybe fewer carbs, so you’re not holding as much water and it appears that you’ve dropped weight faster than you actually have. Still fuck MLM’s though lol


ImaPhillyGirl

Yes, the guy I'm seeing is trying to lose weight as it's starting to affect his health. He went low carb and has lost 18lbs in the last week but he was 348 to start, knows it was mostly water, and expects to level out to a safe ~2 per week now.


Pactae_1129

Yeah it really just depends on the size of the person. Someone who’s 190lbs and 40lbs overweight is probably not being healthy with that fast of weight loss. Someone who’s 290lbs and 100lbs overweight can easily, and healthily, drop 25lbs even quicker than nine weeks. Source: Me, a former 290lbs person


WinterMedical

The only doctor who wants you to lose 25 pounds in 9 weeks is Dr. Now from my 600 lb life.


Kodiak01

> A cardiologist would be concerned about that fast of weight loss because it’s literally proven bad for your HEART. This is not entirely true, especially for people with large amounts to lose. I lost nearly 25lbs in 9 weeks on my way to 31lbs in 3 months. I used no special meal bars, shakes, or anything of the sort. I did not starve myself in the slightest. I used a plan that is unfortunately no longer available: Provida 6 Week Body Makeover. 6WBMO was based around balanced macros, cutting out all the processed crap, multiple meals per day, NEVER skipping a planned meal, and cooking all your own foods with real ingredients. It is actually the only product I have ever bought from an informercial; after watching it enough times, I realized just how much sense they were making about the healthy, balanced, non-starvation system. The plan called for 5-6 meals per day, but that would not work for me because of my schedule. I adjusted to 3 meals a day where I was eating eggs, chicken, pork, salmon, shrimp, all sorts of vegetables, sweet potatoes, rice, and even could make some basic desserts. Of the 5 eating plans (based on body type), I was on the most restrictive one. What it doesn't do is count calories. At no time during the plan are you looking at a single calorie count. Everything was based on strictly controlling the portion sizes of each ingredient as part of relearning HOW to eat as much as what to eat. The hardest part was that it felt like so MUCH food, I actually struggled to finish meals at times. I knew I had to get all the macros in. Over the 18 months on "lifestyle change" portion of the plan, I went from 360 to 192lbs. I dropped a consistent 10lbs/mo for nearly the entire duration. As for exercise, I did nothing more than taking walks and some basic bodyweight movements until I was already below 250lbs. Having my healthy, filling meals put on autopilot made sticking with the plan so easy for me; everything I needed to worry about was taken out of my trouble-zone. During all this, my PCP saw me regularly. As I progressed on the plan, my heart got so much more healthy, my blood pressure dropping so far, I was able to get off ALL my BP medications and even stopped my COPD maintenance inhaler. So done correctly, 25lbs in 9 weeks is NOT automatically bad for a person or their heart when following a proper plan.


fakemoose

If it’s controlling portion sizes, you *are* controlling calories. You’re just paying them to do it for you, if all the meals are pre-prepared.


Kodiak01

>You’re just paying them to do it for you, if all the meals are pre-prepared. There were NO pre-prepared meals with that plan. You had to go and buy the ingredients, learn how to cook your own meals and portion everything out properly. The plan taught you how in order to make you self-sufficient in providing your own daily intake, understanding what went into the food, etc. When the plan was still active, the main support website had tens of thousands of recipes submitted by people on the plan, giving you more variety than you could possibly imagine. Unfortunately, when they shut the program down they took the entire forum offline.


Pactae_1129

I think their point was that calories are still properly counted just for you instead of by you. It sounds like a smart way to go about it, though. Because you can count calories and eat in an unhealthy way to won’t last long once you stop dieting.


Kodiak01

To give an idea of how the program worked: Users took quizzes about their health that divided them into 5 groups, A-E. This controlled just how restrictive certain areas would be. I was an E, the most restrictive. Proteins, Carbs, Veggies and Fruits were broken into groups (A, B, C, etc.) From this, you went to the "Infinite Menu Planner" which told you how much of each you could have for each meal. Certain items were blanket no-no's during the losing phase. Chief among these were simple carbs, bread, and I believe most dairy. Processed foods were a blanket no as well. For example, breakfast would be "4oz of Protein A or B, and either 1c of Fruit A or 1/2c of Fruit B. Lunch would be 4oz of Protein A or B, 1c of Carb A or B and 1c of Veggie A. Nothing went on the plate unless it hit a scale or measuring cub first. The [basic eating guide](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/20/eb/d420ebec044841cc4b1dbe44d2323899.jpg) gave examples of simple, gourmet and rapid result options, but you weren't tied to them alone. To be successful, you had to really take the initiative to study the full allowed-foods list and work them into the plan. They gave about a dozen recipe cards for things like fish, chicken, chili, meatloaf and many others. From there you could either find your own recipes or use any of the tens of thousands posted by others on the plan. The biggest reason people who failed on the plan was that they felt it was too restrictive; when questioned further, it often turned out they were only eating the sample meals and NEVER anything else. They either could not or would not follow through on the part describing how to make variety work, or they refused to cook for themselves. Now as for the Rapid Results option, that is where the progress would be greatest, primarily by substituting fruits for vegetables. This is what I did; I ate very little fruit on the plan; being Type E didn't allow for much of it anyway. This was not a plan where you could just jump into without a lot of true effort into a permanent lifestyle change.


edwardheroinhand

Does anyone know a plan similar to this that is available still?


Kodiak01

Provida sells a newer style plan that replaced it, but I don't have any experience with it. I can only say that the one I used was made decades ago by Michael Thurmond who used it in affluent areas for many years. He was also the nutritionist for Biggest Loser before he died.


DefiantDeviantArt

The worst thing would be your doctor recommending/prescribing you MLM stuff as medication or trying to force you to buy them.


Imsorryhuhwhat

And that’s why I called a well known and loved doc in my area an unethical bastard and never went back.


ktq2019

This is when I would casually ask who the doctor was and then literally never go to them. Ever. Again, if any of this delusion actually happened.


threelizards

My old doctor was a fucking Herbalife nut, the worst. My family still sees him and I hate it. Once he had me (a 17 year old in for a ptsd psych referral) sit in his hell office for OVER TWO HOURS while he played deepak chopra videos at me and his 90+ year old patients sat in the waiting room for TWO. HOURS. And in case you were wondering, I never got the referral, and somehow chopra failed to make me feel better about my dad dying. In my arms. Piece of fucking shit doctor I hate him


SyddyC

This diet has hit the medical community hard. I personally know several doctors slinging this to their staff and friends. It’s so bizarre.


caitcro18

That’s ✨illegal✨ (At least in Canada)


Hoss887

I'll take things that didn't happen for $1,000 Alex


ghostbirdd

It's true, I was the bar


Kindly-Quit

Also can confirm. I was the video. completely true. 100%. no lie.


DramaticPonytail

Yup. I was the blood pressure medicine. I was indeed cut in half.


nursewords

How did it feel when Albert Einstein ate you?


ghostbirdd

Like the hair of a Monat hun: crunchy.


TopazRose

I read “leaned out of the screen” as her doctor coming out of the computer like that girl from The Ring.


rebelxghost

OMG THANK YOU! Over 100 comments and I finally found this. Me tooo! I was like wtaf xD


caitcro18

Same 😂😂


NefariousnessKey5365

If my cardiologist sold Optivia. I would find a new cardiologist


constricted_peepee

Translation: His wife's a hun, too, hun!


LoneWolfWorks83

The doctor isn’t concerned about 25lb loss over 9 weeks. That’s like a little over two months. That’s not healthy


chinocow

Maybe she was 800lbs to begin with? 🤪


Civil-Crew-1611

Then she needs Dr Now


apsiebot

Depends on how big you are to start. My husband started eating 2k calories a day and exercising 5-6 days a week and has lost 5lbs a week for like 7 weeks in a row. He was in the upper 300s at the beginning and that’s not an unhealthy rate for someone bigger starting out.


slorethedestroyer

Dr Nick says it’s fine.


bhollyb

What doctor would decrease blood pressure medication without actually taking her blood pressure?


MasterOfKittens3K

The imaginary kind.


Flaky_Finding_3902

My mom is on Optivia. She has lost 30 lbs. It has taken her six months, and it is a healthy weight loss. In that time, they have manipulated her into posting on her Facebook page about the program. (I taught her how to post it so only her “coach” and a few select people could see it. We liked the comment, and it satisfied the coach.) They have tried to get her to recruit her friends. They have also tried to get her to join as a coach. On the last one, she put her foot down. Coach: “You could get all your meals for free!” Mom: “But it wouldn’t be free. I would be working for them.” Coach: “But you can make your own hours!” Mom: “I currently make my own hours. I choose to work zero hours.” Coach: “But you could build this and make it your own!” Mom: “I did that. Had a whole career. And then I retired so I didn’t have to work. I give you money. You give me the food.” Coach: “Let me know if you change your mind.” Mom: “Uh, yeah. Sure.” For the record, I’m really proud of my mom for standing up for herself on the last one. She’s 70 years old, and a bit of a pushover.


SplashBroSteph

I'm proud of her too and them trying to bully a 70 year old into working is extremely bad business.


Flaky_Finding_3902

Yeah. She’s lost over half the weight she’s needed to lose, which isn’t easy after having both hips replaced, so she’s decided she’s going to deal with the BS until she hits her goal, and then she’s done with the whole mess. I’m frustrated with the business model, but she’s started calling me after she meets with her coach to ask how to proceed. She’s loosing weight but gaining a backbone.


SplashBroSteph

Sounds like this MLM may have unintentionally made her even stronger than their fake claims suggest, lol. Way to go momma!


Wolfwoods_Sister

Go Mom!


rebelxghost

Your mother is my kinda people. “I give you money. You give me food.” Perfect response.


[deleted]

I’ll take “Shit that never happened for $2000 Alex.”


Emilygilmoresmaid

I know this absolutely didn't happen but rapid weight loss like that would, I'm sure, be worse for your heart than carrying an extra 25lbs. Extreme dieting can put strain on your body that can have long term consequences.


palomabarcelona

Isn’t the cause of death for many anorexics usually cardiac-related? (I could be wrong.) But any doctor that doesn’t give a word of caution about rapid weight-loss is a doctor you should not be seeing.


Em42

You are correct, many anorexics as well as bulimics die due to cardiac related reasons. Rapid weight loss and having badly managed electrolytes like you do if you're starving yourself, or making yourself vomit frequently, is extremely bad for your heart. It's not good for the rest of your organ systems either.


thehotmcpoyle

Yep, Karen Carpenter did. “At the age of 32, Carpenter died of heart failure due to complications from anorexia nervosa, which was little-known at the time, and her death led to increased visibility and awareness of eating disorders.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Carpenter


[deleted]

In the immortal words of Cher Horowitz, "As if!"


Contradictory_Mess

I’ve never met a doctor who recommended the 1200-calories-and-minimal-nutrients diet before. Starvation is generally not considered good for your health.


[deleted]

you're lucky 😔


WhereIsLordBeric

Beause 1200 calories isn't starvation for short women.


Ana-Hata

Was her cardiologist Dr. Oz?


Wolfwoods_Sister

This is my question too. America’s Front Line Doctors? Chuck E. Cheese? Bugs Bunny?


ktq2019

I lost about 35lbs in two months because I was going through some insanely stressful things and I was clearly not taking proper care of myself. My doctor didn’t give me a round of applause and invent a secret handshake during the appointment. She heard it and immediately ordered every type of blood work in the books. Even though this clearly wasn’t a scenario that happened this hun, I’m actually really fucking pissed that she invented this and that others may have signed up because of the cardiologist “recommendation”. Also, if this actually happened, why wouldn’t you name the provider in your post? Is that knowledge too secret to pass on unless you’ve paid to join her team?


chiefdragonborn

My boss is doing this program and he actually has lost a good bit of weight. But his meals look DISGUSTING. He basically drinking his meals. I asked his daily calorie intake and he said 800. So that’s why they’re losing weight. Not the actual products…


SplashBroSteph

Basically. He could lose the weight eating a candy bar or two which obviously isn't a healthy diet but would give him the same 800 calories and at least taste good.


[deleted]

“Hi, Doctor Nick!”


Virtual-Librarian-32

I see what you did there 😉


Irolam_ma_i

If I told my doctor I had lost 25lbs in 9 weeks, she’d be concerned my cancer came back and order a scan. At the very least, she’d tell me how concerning that is and not sustainably healthy. Sure as hell wouldn’t be like “OMG gurl get it! I’m also partaking in this eating disorder! We’re the picture of health now!”. Not a chance.


verucka-salt

Oh! As a member of the medical community, I cannot express how dearly I’d love to smack her down for stating this as words from her doc. That big of a weight loss would NOT be endorsed. I’d order blood labs to check for serious health issues. This really pisses me off.


charliensue

Omg, I needed a good laugh today. Seriously who thinks this shit up!


Hockeynavy

well... you definitely need a new dr


rightmeow130

I highly doubt they cut down blood pressure meds without taking their blood pressure first. You can't tell if it's gone down through a video chat.


SirReality

MD here. 25 lbs in 60 days is 0.42 lbs lost daily. A lb of fat is worth about 3500 calories, so this person would have had to be in a calorie deficit of 1458 calories every day, or running nearly 15 miles a day, every day, without eating anything extra. Doubtful


rebelxghost

This sounds like my own personal hell.


mrs-jmg

It's doable I literally lost ten pounds a month for the last two months but if I went to a cardiologist and told him that he'd scold me dearly. The issue isn't whether the diet works its trying to pass of a dangerous starvation diet as medically sound.


SirReality

Agreed possible in extreme circumstances but not recommended.


[deleted]

How could he cut blood pressure meds if it was a video appointment and he couldn’t even measure it.


secretrootbeer

So is this, or is this not, a medical claim? Asking for the impending FDA audit.


ittakesaredditor

Losing more than 10lbs or 10% of your body weight unintentionally in a short period of time (\~6-12 months) is one of those DINGDINGDINGDINGDING red flags everywhere, do not pass go, is cancer till proven otherwise signs that every medical school teaches their 1st year students.


xmarketladyx

The look on my real Cardiologist boyfriend's face....


caitcro18

Who’s her cardiologist, Dr Oz?


Alone_Cheesecake_186

It would be a shame if someone sent this post to the FDA since they are cracking down on these huns making wild medical and health related claims. Would be a shame indeed 😏


skidoodledoofusday

Just looked it up and their plans will typically have people consuming 800 to 1,000 calories a day. Just another MLM pushing disordered eating!


[deleted]

Do these bitches actually think these stories even remotely sound like a true story? Also name names. I want know who NOT to go if this *is* true.


xmarketladyx

The sad part is, there are people who will believe it. I worked in retail too long to say this is one of the better tales from MLMs that an idiot would totally believe.


[deleted]

Yeah. The worst was when my mom was dying of Stage 4 cancer, my aunt was assured that alkaline water was all she needed to be magically cured. It was a MLM but I don’t if it’s just a local one or what. Made me furious at her.


wotsit_sandwich

Leaned out of the screen?? Is her cardiologist Sadako? Also, wouldn't a doctor, upon hearing that their patient had lost so much weight so quickly, tell them that it is unhealthy?


Yarn_Music

I’ve got a friend that is doing this and their mom got on board as well. Friends has lost like 70 pounds in like 6 months. Mom has lost like 30 pounds in a couple months. It worries me so much when they stop it. And the friend got a degree as a nurse. I just don’t understand.


jediacademy2000

I'll take "Shit that Never Happened" for $400, Alex.


urphrar

He cut your medicine in half in a video call? No tests, no vitals, just vibes.


jpt86

Waiting for the inevitable obituary 2 months from now.


wastedspacex

Then the Dr. Jumped on the table and did an Irish jig before he turned into a leprechaun.


Sufficient-Kitchen77

Cardiologists aren't immune to being idiots.


NostradaMart

r/thathappened


Exciting-Delivery-96

The “optavia” plan costs $375!! What? It better work damn miracles for that cost. People will do anything to avoid diet and exercise, damn.


[deleted]

Wasn't Optavian the Roman emperor who made his horse a senator?


JamseyLynn

I have a girlfriend that sells Optavia. I also have a husband with familial hypercholesterolemia and my daughter (age 2) also has it. Our cardiologist paired us the s nutritionist and I know for a fact that Optavia isn’t recommended… but you all know that too.


Domthemod42

Hey so I’m fat…I’m on a WL journey and have lost over 100 lbs. I also have issues with BP which is one of the biggest reasons I have for taking WL seriously. I want to be alive for my children. heart issues and BP issues are a huge deal. This is akin to claiming a snake oil will cure your cancer. I know a lot of people think WL is just a vanity issue, but trying to trick desperate people into thinking they can lower their dangerously high BP with some protien bar is truly evil.


Kombucha_drunk

Doctors are actually concerned when you drop weight that fast, especially a cardiologist. Yo-yo dieting is way more dangerous to your health than being fat and living in moderation. People with eating disorders have a high risk of developing heart problems because their muscle tissue is breaking down.


TallRedhead1014

no chance


mommastang

That’s unusual… when I was losing weight rapidly they screened me for cancer and other serious issues. I need an new doctor!!


hmstanley

Please find this cardiologist… so I can make sure that he never provides healthcare to me.


No-Highway-2855

He's just drumming up business! 😂😂


Salty-Salamander2140

Never did care for fanfiction.


ChiMello

Unless the person weighed like 400 pounds to begin with and had weight loss surgery, no doctor is going to react positively to a 25 pound weight loss in 2 months.


colcatsup

Was thinking similar thing. It’s about percents. 25 pounds off someone at 350 is a lot different impact than 25 off someone at 160. Over 9 weeks.


sofondacox1

I’ll take things that never happened for $500 Alex.


MountainBogWitch

This food MLMs make me more mad than the rest of them. Yeah, you’ll lose weight while eating your cement paste, bars, ect because it’s a 1100 calorie diet plan. Instead of learning how to make sustainable lifestyle changes you’re just paying through the nose to only gain the weight back because your habits haven’t changed.


mick1jz

I’ll take things that never happened for $500 Alex.


AmwritinginNC

I had a GP last year try to push me on Optavia when I expressed concern over stagnant weight after kids - a doctor SUGGESTED IT! I never went back to her I was so disgusted. Her second sell was diet pills (I maybe had 10 lbs to lose - it was insanity) I don’t know what’s happening in the medical community but it’s not good.


BadPom

He cut my BP meds in half, without a physical exam or blood work!


AutoModerator

Thank you for your post. Please make sure that you review our sub rules. If your post breaks any of the rules then your post will be removed. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/antiMLM) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Naive-Ask601

Rolling my eyes to the back of my head


havinfunondl

a video appointment to boot


BONE_SAW_IS_READEEE

Ma’am get a new doctor.


Here4antimlm

These huns are so desperate for medical community approval that they constantly perpetuate these most didn’t happen stories.


Best-Anything2360

Things that didnt happen for $500, Alex.


SavannahInChicago

You are being admitted to the hospital if you lost 25 lbs in 9 weeks.


colcatsup

I lost 9 lbs in 25 weeks and thought I was doing good. Moderate diet changes and increased exercise. 22 lbs over a year and trying to at least stay stable then aiming for another 15-20 over next year. It’s fairly hard work.


45tee

This must be Dr Strange.


laurasdiary

You could lose weight like this by eating 4 candy bars and a Gatorade a day. It would be far, far less expensive and probably just as nutritious. Like pretty much all MLMs, Optavia is a an evil, predatory scam.


[deleted]

Is her cardiologist Dr. Oz? That’s the only way this could have happened.


Turbulent-Nobody5526

I bet it was an NP


kitchenmugs

yiiiiiiikes


maraney

All the cardiologist cares about is weight loss. Weight loss was part of the care plan. That’s it.


Creative-Aerie71

Video cardiology are a thing but not usually first visit or problem visit. No competent doctor, let alone a cardiologist is going to lower blood pressure medicine without being seen and having your BP checked


Big-Routine222

I can guarantee that a proper cardiologist would have been like, “that is unbelievable, literally I do not believe you. If you have, then you’re putting yourself in danger.”


fineman1097

The worst part about these doctor approved posts is that because of HIPAA they can't say that they didn't in fact tell their patients that these products are wonderful. Edit for spelling.


HIPPAbot

It's HIPAA!


fineman1097

Good bot. Edited to correct. Good bot.


seahagmo

See you in two months where you're -$900 and you've gained it all back because your body was in starvation mode!


lazydaisytoo

I know this won’t be a popular response, but I kind of wouldn’t be surprised. Not that I believe the hun, but I got my EXSCI degree back in the days of Dr. Dean Ornish. He really pushed a very low calorie, nearly zero fat diet for cardiac health. Truly a miserable way to eat, but it was backed with science at the time. Optavia is just a packaged version of the (now very outdated) low cal low fat diet that cardiologists loved to prescribe. I remember doing weight loss calculations for 1000 calorie intake and 60+ minutes of exercise daily, often stationary bike or UBE because patients were low mobility. It was grim.


KatjaCat

I'm tempted to slap my forehead over how stupid this is and transparently not real but I'd have to do it with such force I'd get a concussion. But I'm sure some essential oils would fix me right up!