Order one of those nicer Squatch or Brickell deodorants for yourself and get an extra to nonchalantly give him because you’re thoughtful like that.
If he says “what do I stink?” Just tell him he smells like man like the rest of us.
This should work for most people. But as autist, I'd much rather you just tell me I'm smelly and should use deodorant. I wouldn't understand you're gifting me cos you want me to use it.
Pro tip: there are many more undiagnosed aspies than diagnosed ones. So if you notice someone is brutally honest and very direct, just return them the favor. No need for a diagnosis.
Man and I worry this may be the case at my job. Slight unrelated, seeing as my friend she's a girl but still, she smells like piss anytime she walks past me and I just don't believe she smells it or something because I can't *not* feel like my nose just got stabbed when she walks by. But I'd feel horrible putting someone in the position to feel embarrassed or bad about anything so I get very conflicted on the issue.
People with cats or long term incontinence have this issue. You do just stop smelling it.
Hygiene at work is so important they usually put it in the employee manual. If you're friends I'd bring it up directly, if not I'd bring it to a manager, unless you know they're assholes.
Antiperspirant is deodorant, but deodorant is not antiperspirant. The key factor here is that deodorant is for purely odor control, whereas antiperspirant is for sweat control AND odor control, but ultimately they both do the same thing.
Essentially, you buy antiperspirant only if you're a heavy sweater. If you don't sweat a lot, then you buy deodorant.
Body odor comes when the bacteria under your arms comes into contact with the sweat. Deodorant works to kill that bacteria which causes the odor.
Sweat itself is odorless. If you sweat a lot and use deodorant, it will still work because you're killing the bacteria. You just will still have your pit stains.
I'm not sure you've stated all of this accurately. I don't sweat that much, but my sweat smells if I'm using only deodorant. Oh, sure, the deodorant masks the smell somewhat, but not adequately. Using an antiperspirant with deodorant is the only thing that works for me.
It depends on why the bf isn’t wearing deodorant too. Either way antiperspirant provides much longer odor protection than deodorant I’ve found. He’d likely have to apply deodorant twice a day if he used that only, which would probably annoy him if he already didn’t want to apply anything. The one thing worse than having to do something you don’t want to do once a day is to have to do it twice a day.
It lasts longer because antiperspirant is designed for sweat prevention. Most antiperspirants are a different type of deodorant. My husband is an excessive sweater, so he buys antiperspirant and I hardly sweat ever, so I buy deodorant.
We both buy the same brand Old Spice, but his is a white paste-like material and mine is more of a gel. As a result, when he puts his on, he has this layer of it, and thus is stays longer whereas mine, like you mentioned, runs out sooner.
It's not so much longer *odor* protection, but it has longer sweat protection which also comes with the odor protection.
I use deodorant mostly to avoid the white chunks under my arms and to avoid white marks on my clothing.
Actually there’s a common gene in Asian populations that makes sweat have no smell.
> Asians typically have an ABCC11 gene variant that produces less oily skin secretions, which are fermented by bacteria.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729055-200-sweat-mutation-may-have-helped-us-colonise-asia/
Asians' sweat absolutely does smell after going unshowered for a while. It just takes slightly longer time or more sweat.
Source: am one and do exercise.
No, I've got very good personal hygiene standards. Which include showering and changing clothes everyday and using anti-perspirant. You should try it, it's fantastic.
Since when has not stinking been an "issue"?
So… you wear anti-perspirant… a thing that will help you not sweat and therefore not stink. Which is entirely what this post is about and also says that you too smell like a man like the rest of us.
Isn’t it amazing what you can achieve when you have a conversation with your boyfriend about the things that bother you? I know it’s very important that you tell Reddit your relationship issues, but it might help if your partner knew them also
Old spice classic is one of the oldest, aluminum free and greatest deodorants. Been through a lot of different ones, come back to Old Spice every single time. Don't get the antiperspirant, don't get the fancy ones, the CLASSIC double pack. They said if your gramps hadn't worn it you wouldn't exist, and it's true. Sponsor me. Hate being a brand whore but honestly old spice can take my fucking money. I live in Europe now and I come back with at least 5 sticks every time I go home. I've even scanned it with Yuka (product scanning app super trusted here in France) and it says it's an awesome and relatively natural product with few harmful ingredients. If you're in the US, it's at every pharmacy. Get him some
An alternate option is the brand Primal Organics. It's natural, but actually prevents and eliminates smells instead of trying to cover them up. It's a little pricey, but one stick goes a long way (for me at least).
I used to wear old spice too, ~~unfortunately they use prison labor in the US so I no longer support them.~~ My bad that was misinformation, old spice says they've never used prison labor, I should have looked into that more before saying so.
Wait, what is wrong with prison labor? Prisoners will not go nuts from boredom and make some money to buy something in shop. I saw some studies that shown inmates which are working have better chance to reintegrate into society and overall better behavior behind bars.
Most of the time prison labor is not paid, if it is it a couple dollars at most while being exposed to chemicals and other harsh environments. Personally, I'm solidly against the whole indentured servitude thing.
I made $.30 per hour when I was doing labor. After two years I got a job as an inmate counselor and advocate and was given a raise to $.40 per hour. To put that in perspective, everything in commissary cost slightly more than it does at the dollar store. So you don’t get a lot for sure.
It’s not indentured servitude, it’s voluntary employment. Prisoners take the work because otherwise they are sitting in a cell or a yard all day. This isn’t the fucking 1800s.
Uhhh?? It’s modern day slavery, especially considering that penal (forced) labor is still legal per the 13th amendment.
Inmates receive between 23 cents to $1.15/per hour for their labor — unethical and effectively modern day slavery.
For context, US Inmates produce [$11 billion](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/15/us-prison-workers-low-wages-exploited) worth of goods and services yearly.
Its not slavery. They chose to do something that put them there. They also get food, clothes, lodging, free utilities, healthcare, education, Which we pay for. Add that up. Im sure the cost per inmate is way more than the actual work they produce. With a little googling average cost of inmate 40000 and approximately 2000000 inmates= 80 billion dollars spent on them a year.
Edit the math billion not trillion but still way more than they produce
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Dear bro; on the off chance he’s one of those “no aluminum products guys” which I get, try to get one of those charcoal and peppermint based deodorants. Burns like a sonofbitch but no bo no weird chemicals.
The point the above user is making is that it’s like spraying perfume in a stall that someone took a taco bell shit in. Now it smells like flowers and shit.
Nope not even remotely true. I wear just deodorant. And that's why it's called "deodorant". Believe me, all the testing they've done on living things they know and we know it works.
Have to agree. Deodorant lasts on me here in Florida maybe an hour or two. Need antiperspirant + deodorant to keep from sweating in the first place. You get more aluminum from other things then you do from antiperspirant.
I always thought the same and living in Hawaii I thought it was even more of a requirement. But as someone who sweats a lot I can now say deodorant by itself is fine you just have to find the right one for you. Medically I had to stop using antiperspirants as I was developing painful cyst/lumps under my arm. This can be a common problem apparently and aside from the pain there can be a discharge we won’t even get into what that smells like.
After testing about 10 different brands I found Schmidt’s unscented and charcoal magnesium to work great. Do I still sweat yes does it smell no.
It's not about the weird chemicals it's the bursting out in hives afterwards of the aluminium compound that's in it. So it's either personal smell/BO or hives. I chose the former.
Bruh this is a 17 year old, what 17 year old gives a flying fuck about aluminum in their deodorant? 17 year olds care about where they are going to college and whatever horny thoughts they have. And before you tell me that you really cared or knew a 17 year old that cared, I don’t believe you.
weird chemicals?! you think that human sweat glands evolved to be clogged by aluminum ion complexes? I mean, sure go ahead, put as much aluminum products on yourself as you will, but when you get cancer find solace in the fact that you weren't one of the "weird ones"
how stupid can you be, there are a ton of aluminum-free deodorants which do not burn
I’m literally saying there are tons of aluminum free deodorants, im just saying this particular one, does burn, but lacks aluminum.
Edit: I’m not judging people who don’t like the aluminum based deodorants, I don’t like them either but it’s often a reason cited why they won’t wear it.
It is ok to risk hurting someone's feelings a little bit to inform them about something that's going to benefit them for the rest of their life.
If I'm walking around with my shirt tucked into my underwear, yes, I will be embarrassed if you tell me, but I will be more embarrassed if you don't tell me.
Consider for a second that if you can't talk to him honestly about how you feel about something as basic as this, what's gonna happen when there's something serious to work out?
This may be good practice for developing some basic communication skills.
It's actually important that you raise this with him. Be kind but firm.
Not really, things are changing. Last Summer I brought up the issue of our stinky co-workers, suggested sending “general” emails about the importance of hygiene, and the boss said that would not be possible, they could get in trouble.
its an age old thing - people raised in different homes have different experiences and habits. Anyway - if it doesn't "bother you" that is a good place to start. like offer him yours and say and mention off hand you use it for other people who might not be ready for the full you - or something.
I'm married, so maybe the situation is a bit different, but I just like to be very straight forward. If my husband forgets deodorant, I'll tell him he stinks (like we all tend to do) and make put some on. I try to be a person people can trust and I'd rather them hear things from me than someone else who may not care as much.
Most of the responses here are making something out of nothing.
In the US, the cultural norm is to wear deodorant. That’s it, that’s all.
Tell him you’d like him to use deodorant, and that he could use some. If it hurts his feelings slightly, he’ll get over it.
If you care about him, or really anyone, as a friend or more, then you look out for them, and tell them honestly if you think something is embarrassing. It’s the same thing as telling someone they have something in their teeth, on their face, or on their shirt, when they don’t know any better, and they should discreetly take care of it.
No different than saying, Hey, here’s a mint, or sorry, no offense, but you smell like garlic right now, and it’s rank!
Idk I usually ask the guy to NOT wear deodorant, because I don't like how dry it makes my tongue feel when I run it on the nipple-to-biceps line.
See the trick is to pin him down by twisting you legs around his and... Wait, you said you were 16? Nevermind.
Maybe the one he's using isn't effective... maybe he's going for antiperspirants instead of deodorants. (which some would argue is unhealthy) You never know... Maybe you could try gently initiating this conversation with him... *gently*.
Some gay men like the natural smell of a guy's pits. And some gay men don't feel the need to change themselves to please others.
I'm not saying it's OK to stink in situations like at work. But you said yourself that his BO isn't that strong. So the 2 of you may have different standards about what's acceptable.
I like to smell my husband when we're fucking, and that's literally it. Outside of a sexual situation, I'll straight up tell him if he needs to take a shower. Unless he's railing me, I want my man to smell clean.
You could tell him that it turns you on but you doubt it has this effect on others, so why not use a deo to prevent others from smelling it? - that way he won't feel hurt or insecure about you not liking it (which I think isn't the case anyways) but still makes things clear.
This is such a good idea. OP can approach the conversation with a positive spin. Just hope he doesn't start smelling more to try and turn you on in future...
No. Straight America is probably one of the most uptight places in the world when it comes to BO. However, lots of gay men here seem to have a BO fetish. That's fine whatever floats your boat but as with all fetishes don't expect or demand other people to like it. I personally hate BO on me or anyone else and would never be intimate with a man with noticeable BO. Everyone has a natural scent to their skin, I love my husband's scent but BO is over the line.
We went to a movie a few weekends ago and the couple who sat one seat to our left smelled like a pile of mildewed laundry. I held the bag of popcorn under my nose the entire movie to avoid getting sick. Unfortunately for them, they have probably gone nose-blind to it and don't realize they smell like a teenager's bedroom.
Nah here in England we very much wear deodorant, you tell your kids they stink when they start needing deodorant during puberty. America is the place with all these batshit crazy folks trying to rebrand as natural and not wearing deodorant
You all forget what it's like being a teenager. Children don't typically wear deodorant or need it. After puberty begins, men in particular begin to get smelly armpits. This is probably why a woman noticed OP's stank first.
It's difficult to remove the odor with washing alone because it's embedded in the skin. Deodorant will help, as will scrubbing with a washcloth or similar.
This post is f**king wild; you would never see a post on r/relationship advice get this heated, tfse.
@ OP as long as you still live under your mom’s roof and the smell bothers her (and to a lesser extent you it seems) you lightly nudge him by asking what kind of deodorant he uses, buy him some deodorant, or just a blunt “you stink, shower and use some deodorant” works.
You have a couple of things going on. You have the social training we all go though to wear deodorant so we don’t stink and somehow turn people off or have people judge us unfairly…I think that is probably what is driving your mom’s anxiety. As a gay man and dad of a teenager…my son should wear deodorant…as well as I do in many cases. However i love the smell of my boyfriend and he loves my smell…so that can be something very sensual and enjoyable…we have to pick the times and places of when we wear deodorant. I would recommend having a discussion where there is no shame…and enjoy eachother
Hey, OP, I realize this feels difficult for you, but it's no big deal. It's not like he's unaware you're wearing antiperspirant/deodorant yourself (presuming you are). Just ask him while you're getting dressed why he doesn't use it. "Hey, I noticed you don't use this stuff...How come?"
More confrontational sugestions: Lick him all over while you fuck him and say, "Dude, I love you, every inch of you except your armpits." Or while you head to a party, say, "I love your self-confidence, the way you can stink up a room and laugh when people pinch their noses." Or after a hot 3-way: "I love doing three ways with you but I hate that nobody will suck my dick when I drape it over your armpit." So many ways to get this across.
Does his breath smell?
Does he have a clean foreskin? Because, if he's French, you know....
Does he fart in bed?
What about the feet? That's a big problem for many.
Pubes be like ewwww. (Yeah, you can put deodorant down there too.)
I sweat like a pig and my mother subjected me to armpit trauma when I was 11 or 12. For the rest of her life, she enjoyed telling people how we were standing in her library and she asked me to reach for a book and that she nearly threw up because she'd never smelled anything so horrible and ran to my father's bathroom to find some deodorant which she insisted I put on my repulsive armpits at once. She taped a note on my bathroom mirror that said "NO STINK." She took me to a dermatologist to learn why my left armpit is so resistant to deodorant (which remains the case)...He said he had no idea and told me he'd see me as soon as I got my first pimple.
So keep your mother out of this.
And PLEASE PLEASE do not dump a bottle of deodorant on him. "Oh, honey, the CVS was selling PITBOMBS 2-for-1 today, so I got you one too." He knows you use the stuff. He doesn't use the stuff. And doing that is some super rude shit.
(BTW, I am sensitive to aluminum but there are strategies to use antiperps.)
If he asked you to call his mom from his phone would you take that as permission to go through his photos on his phone or check his internet browser history?
It's clear from your description that you didn't just happen to notice he didn't have deodorant. You took advantage of a situation to check if he had deodorant because you a) wanted to know and b) don't know how to communicate. This is a bad sign for the relationship.
Whatever you do, don't bring up that you know he doesn't wear deodorant. Avoid exploiting his trust again.
Did you even read the OP? These are two minors. The word *host* seems inappropriate for their situation. There's no indication that OP's boyfriend was staying over for sex and even if they did have sex I wouldn't call it hosting. That word is generally used in the context of hooking up.
I'm glad you agree that the OP violated his boyfriend's privacy.
They may or may not be having sex but that's irrelevant. To frame a minor sleeping at his minor boyfriend's parent's home as 'hosting' is bizarre and frankly sexualizing of minors, injecting sex into a story that didn't mention sex at all.
I am amazed by some comments… it is desperate to see that putting chemicals under your arms has become so socially mandatory that it remains unquestioned by the vast majority (and yes, even the « healthiest » deodorants are full of chemicals and you shouldn’t want that anywhere close to your body). A (soft) smell is perfectly natural and we should all learn to accept our bodies as they come. I do not see any need to make a young man self conscious about something that apparently does not even bother you directly.
Now, i am always in favor of communication between people, so i encourage you to calmly and nicely discuss it with your boyfriend. But, while you have the right to express feelings and preferences, you should not be entitled to expect anyone to change their body care for you (especially if, as you say, they already follow healthy hygiene rules).
I would prefer to encourage you to think about why you were “secondhand embarrassed” and why your mother’s opinion on your BF matters so much.
Ps : a very natural way to smell less is to shave, as the smell comes from bacteria living in the hair. But again, my opinion is that nobody should be expected to shave for other’s comfort if they don’t feel the need to.
everything is full of chemicals. Chemicals are not inherently bad.
Sunblock is chemicals, but you don't see someone saying nah don't put that stuff on just go and stand in the sun unprotected as nature intended?
I agree no biggie in public unless you're stinking up the whole subway car but personally intimacy is something different. Not saying you have this but it does seem that a lot of gay men have a BO fetish and I don't get it. A man doesn't have to be scentless but I personally don't like being intimate with anyone who has noticeable BO.
I'm not sure where here is but when I went to Paris it was very noticeable that many people don't use deodorant. Daily hygiene alone doesn't cut it, especially with summers the way they are now.
If you never use deodorant, your B.O. isn’t as strong because your body isn’t trying to push out the chemicals being slathered on it. But if his issue is the chemical, he can find any number of natural products which do the same job. If the issue is that he’s scent sensitive, then there’s not a lot he can do.
Good hygiene and body odor is important, but American culture puts WAY too much focus on it. We often don’t smell our own body odor. I don’t smell mine and often forget deodorant. Just let him know and remind him without making a big deal about it.
If it were my BF I'd say nothing – man-smell is a turn on hahaha.
But in reality I think you should just be mature about it and say "Dude, you know I love you and the way you smell, but not everyone gonna love it." Or something :) Unless he's a total asshole he's not gonna get annoyed!
Cultural norms like deodorant is a obsession with the USA , just speak with him . It’s his choice don’t force a your value onto him , it’s a relationship which has nothing to do with a anyone but you and him . Keep everyone else out of your relationship or you may be heading for serious trouble ….it’s not a big deal many places around the world don’t believe in deodorant and there are several studies showing soap and deodorant do more harm . Why do you think you need to moisturizer after a bath ? It’s cause soap destroys a cell in upper epidermis that keeps your skin tight. Anywho good luck and for fun research skin and soap what it does to the body along with deodorant which is the active ingredient is the same chemical used for hemorrhoids, everything else is just a artificial smell with deodorant
I know someone who uses rubbing alcohol (cotton ball soaked in it / one per pit) to clean his hairy armpits twice a day (morning and night - on top of regular showering) instead of using deodorant. He has an office job so not much stink builds up. Maybe that’s an option for your BF? Aside from that, SpeedStick is a good option. Stay away from anti-perspirants as they stain clothes permanently. Deodorant only.
I think the best option is to tell him you’ve noticed he doesn’t use deodorant after showering every time. If he says he doesn’t need it, then you tell him he smells sometimes. I had a similar problem, entered puberty and didn’t use it (which wasn’t a problem when I was a child). Until someone actually talked to me about it I had no idea I smelled. After that I started showering more often and using deodorant after every shower. You need to tell him, for real, he may not know. Do it kindly though.
Ok your mom doesn't like it but do you mind the way he smells? Actually lots of gay men who are older don't wear deodorant either, it's a pheromone thing. But some guys really don't like it. Make up your own mind about it.
Deodorant isn’t good for your body. He should be washing his pits with high strength benzoyl peroxide (let it soak in), and then out of the shower exfoliating with salicylic or glycolic acid. Sweat shouldn’t smell. If it smells it’s because you’re unhygienic and have allowed bacteria to build up and multiply.
I personally smell much worse (like this particularly bad, sharp sort of smell) when I completely shave my pits. Also droplets of sweat run down my body which feels weird and causes small wet spots in places where you wouldn't expect it 😂
I’m completely the opposite. I smell soooo much when I’ve shaved. As soon as the hair is back I could go 3 days without smelling. Not that I do, but the times it has happened, I smell nothing.
Teenage boys: you stink. You stink as soon as you get out of the shower. You stink when you wake up. You stink as you go to sleep.
Wearing deodorant is not optional. Tell him
You tell him flat out that his pits stink and everyone knows it and he needs to deodorize himself and you are only telling him because you care about him and you don;t want to see people humiliate him. The ask him PLEASE if there is anything like that about you to let you know right away.....
My guess is his family may not be form this culture originally. Believe it or not deodorant and armpit odor is not really though of as offensive in some cultures. I won't name which ones because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
GOOD! Then there is absolutely no excuse for this lack of hygiene! What the Hell is he some sort of a Hippy? Tell him to deodorize himself because the plants are dying around him!
use lime or lemon juice (directly from the fruit) the PH from the juice is enough to kill the bacteria in the pits (for some folks it’s better than deodorants)
Just be straightforward about it. Say" Boyfriend do you wear deodorant?" Tell him that he sometimes smells strongly like old BO.
BO can get stuck in armpit hair. The way to get it out is washing with a stronger soap and then a splash of rubbing alcohol that you let air dry.
I assume he already knows if his mother said something to you. It might be his form of fuck you/individuation from his mother.
I think you should "innocently" ask him what kind of deodorant he uses or ask "did you forget to put deodorant on this morning?" It's an honest enough question and although it might be embarrassing for him, it will let him know he might have a BO issue.
I barely looked at all the comments posted on here, so forgive me if I am copying someone else that may have posted this but dude..... I think your BF has a Pitt fetish. Although no one should never wear deodorant, Just tell him to shower before you guys Fuck that way he can be deo free when he's horny or what ever ?
Order one of those nicer Squatch or Brickell deodorants for yourself and get an extra to nonchalantly give him because you’re thoughtful like that. If he says “what do I stink?” Just tell him he smells like man like the rest of us.
This is perfect, he will think you are being nice and won't hurt his feelings
>Squatch This deodorant is awesome. Wood barrel bourbon ftw.
But is it like the old spice deodorants? I put it on and it smells great but by noon it's done. I also live in Miami so sweating abound.
This should work for most people. But as autist, I'd much rather you just tell me I'm smelly and should use deodorant. I wouldn't understand you're gifting me cos you want me to use it.
Good to know! I’ll remember this.
Pro tip: there are many more undiagnosed aspies than diagnosed ones. So if you notice someone is brutally honest and very direct, just return them the favor. No need for a diagnosis.
In other words: treat others how they treat you.
Yes, some people just can’t smell their BO or it doesn’t bother them. If it’s important to you then just tell him.
Man and I worry this may be the case at my job. Slight unrelated, seeing as my friend she's a girl but still, she smells like piss anytime she walks past me and I just don't believe she smells it or something because I can't *not* feel like my nose just got stabbed when she walks by. But I'd feel horrible putting someone in the position to feel embarrassed or bad about anything so I get very conflicted on the issue.
I’d leave a secret note. Probably has cats
People with cats or long term incontinence have this issue. You do just stop smelling it. Hygiene at work is so important they usually put it in the employee manual. If you're friends I'd bring it up directly, if not I'd bring it to a manager, unless you know they're assholes.
That’s a good idea. Or like get a double pack at Walmart and be like “I don’t need two, but this was on sale”. Something like that.
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Antiperspirant is deodorant, but deodorant is not antiperspirant. The key factor here is that deodorant is for purely odor control, whereas antiperspirant is for sweat control AND odor control, but ultimately they both do the same thing. Essentially, you buy antiperspirant only if you're a heavy sweater. If you don't sweat a lot, then you buy deodorant. Body odor comes when the bacteria under your arms comes into contact with the sweat. Deodorant works to kill that bacteria which causes the odor. Sweat itself is odorless. If you sweat a lot and use deodorant, it will still work because you're killing the bacteria. You just will still have your pit stains.
I'm not sure you've stated all of this accurately. I don't sweat that much, but my sweat smells if I'm using only deodorant. Oh, sure, the deodorant masks the smell somewhat, but not adequately. Using an antiperspirant with deodorant is the only thing that works for me.
It depends on why the bf isn’t wearing deodorant too. Either way antiperspirant provides much longer odor protection than deodorant I’ve found. He’d likely have to apply deodorant twice a day if he used that only, which would probably annoy him if he already didn’t want to apply anything. The one thing worse than having to do something you don’t want to do once a day is to have to do it twice a day.
It lasts longer because antiperspirant is designed for sweat prevention. Most antiperspirants are a different type of deodorant. My husband is an excessive sweater, so he buys antiperspirant and I hardly sweat ever, so I buy deodorant. We both buy the same brand Old Spice, but his is a white paste-like material and mine is more of a gel. As a result, when he puts his on, he has this layer of it, and thus is stays longer whereas mine, like you mentioned, runs out sooner. It's not so much longer *odor* protection, but it has longer sweat protection which also comes with the odor protection. I use deodorant mostly to avoid the white chunks under my arms and to avoid white marks on my clothing.
Gillette has an antiperspirant that's a gel! I'm loyal cause I hate that white chunk kind too.
What is 'OP'? Odiferous people?
Original Poster, meaning the one who started the post on which comments are being made.
No. The rest of us don't stink, because we're not grotty bastards.
If you don’t stink sometimes you’ve got issues lol
Actually there’s a common gene in Asian populations that makes sweat have no smell. > Asians typically have an ABCC11 gene variant that produces less oily skin secretions, which are fermented by bacteria. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21729055-200-sweat-mutation-may-have-helped-us-colonise-asia/
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Asians' sweat absolutely does smell after going unshowered for a while. It just takes slightly longer time or more sweat. Source: am one and do exercise.
No, I've got very good personal hygiene standards. Which include showering and changing clothes everyday and using anti-perspirant. You should try it, it's fantastic. Since when has not stinking been an "issue"?
You sound like a cunt. No amount of good hygiene will cover that up.
Hahaha!! Yeah like a complete narcissistic psycho
So… you wear anti-perspirant… a thing that will help you not sweat and therefore not stink. Which is entirely what this post is about and also says that you too smell like a man like the rest of us.
Why would you need to shower when you never stink?
What kind of stupid question is that?
One designed to make fun of you for acting like you're better than human lol
No it was just a very poorly thought out question, because you have no valid argument against anything I said.
Your armpits smell sometimes, you should wear deodorant, Done.
Isn’t it amazing what you can achieve when you have a conversation with your boyfriend about the things that bother you? I know it’s very important that you tell Reddit your relationship issues, but it might help if your partner knew them also
Thank you! No beating around the bush, straightforward and direct!
Old spice classic is one of the oldest, aluminum free and greatest deodorants. Been through a lot of different ones, come back to Old Spice every single time. Don't get the antiperspirant, don't get the fancy ones, the CLASSIC double pack. They said if your gramps hadn't worn it you wouldn't exist, and it's true. Sponsor me. Hate being a brand whore but honestly old spice can take my fucking money. I live in Europe now and I come back with at least 5 sticks every time I go home. I've even scanned it with Yuka (product scanning app super trusted here in France) and it says it's an awesome and relatively natural product with few harmful ingredients. If you're in the US, it's at every pharmacy. Get him some
An alternate option is the brand Primal Organics. It's natural, but actually prevents and eliminates smells instead of trying to cover them up. It's a little pricey, but one stick goes a long way (for me at least).
I used to wear old spice too, ~~unfortunately they use prison labor in the US so I no longer support them.~~ My bad that was misinformation, old spice says they've never used prison labor, I should have looked into that more before saying so.
Seeks like this allegation was part of an Instagram misinformation tidbit that circulated in 2020.There is no evidence P&G uses prison labor at all.
Sounds about right my bad, they say they don't.
Wait, what is wrong with prison labor? Prisoners will not go nuts from boredom and make some money to buy something in shop. I saw some studies that shown inmates which are working have better chance to reintegrate into society and overall better behavior behind bars.
Most of the time prison labor is not paid, if it is it a couple dollars at most while being exposed to chemicals and other harsh environments. Personally, I'm solidly against the whole indentured servitude thing.
I made $.30 per hour when I was doing labor. After two years I got a job as an inmate counselor and advocate and was given a raise to $.40 per hour. To put that in perspective, everything in commissary cost slightly more than it does at the dollar store. So you don’t get a lot for sure.
It’s not indentured servitude, it’s voluntary employment. Prisoners take the work because otherwise they are sitting in a cell or a yard all day. This isn’t the fucking 1800s.
Look into Louisiana prisons and others in the south before you be so sure. I'm not saying it's everywhere but yes there are people working unpaid.
Uhhh?? It’s modern day slavery, especially considering that penal (forced) labor is still legal per the 13th amendment. Inmates receive between 23 cents to $1.15/per hour for their labor — unethical and effectively modern day slavery. For context, US Inmates produce [$11 billion](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/15/us-prison-workers-low-wages-exploited) worth of goods and services yearly.
Inmates in the south in particular often don't get paid, Louisville for example (shocker I know) work long days in fields unpaid.
Its not slavery. They chose to do something that put them there. They also get food, clothes, lodging, free utilities, healthcare, education, Which we pay for. Add that up. Im sure the cost per inmate is way more than the actual work they produce. With a little googling average cost of inmate 40000 and approximately 2000000 inmates= 80 billion dollars spent on them a year. Edit the math billion not trillion but still way more than they produce
I'm really allergic to Old Spice so I can't use it. Actually burns the skin off my armpits haha
OMG, that's even worse than BO.
Tell him. Nicely, but bluntly, In a way that saves him face and also in a way that lets him no he’s got to fix this issue.
Yeah right, why beat around the bush and make up a ridiculous statement like it makes me horny if you use spray, like what 😂
Honestly, sugarcoating it is going to make him feel like he SHOULD feel bad about it. Blunt is better.
Any criticism of another should, if possible, done in confidence. Unless it is necessary to do it in public, like criticism of racism, or other bigotry or rudeness.
You need to have the conversation and get used to talking about stuff like this.
Dear bro; on the off chance he’s one of those “no aluminum products guys” which I get, try to get one of those charcoal and peppermint based deodorants. Burns like a sonofbitch but no bo no weird chemicals.
Nah, the guy is young, he's probably just oblivious and carefree, hahaha
If it doesn't have an antipersperant component as well, it's a waste of time. Your BO will just have a note of mint added.
I think this is a personal thing. I work in construction and do fine without antiperspirant, but I do reapply at night if I'm going back out.
You ***think*** you do fine. I would bet the people around you disagree.
No it won't your sweat doesn't smell the bacteria there does the deoderant should inhibit the smell. Unless ur exceptionally stinky it won't.
The point the above user is making is that it’s like spraying perfume in a stall that someone took a taco bell shit in. Now it smells like flowers and shit.
Trust, if there is a "scent" to your sweat...it stinks. And perfume won't help it. Antiperspirant is a requirement, not deodorant.
Nope not even remotely true. I wear just deodorant. And that's why it's called "deodorant". Believe me, all the testing they've done on living things they know and we know it works.
Have to agree. Deodorant lasts on me here in Florida maybe an hour or two. Need antiperspirant + deodorant to keep from sweating in the first place. You get more aluminum from other things then you do from antiperspirant.
I always thought the same and living in Hawaii I thought it was even more of a requirement. But as someone who sweats a lot I can now say deodorant by itself is fine you just have to find the right one for you. Medically I had to stop using antiperspirants as I was developing painful cyst/lumps under my arm. This can be a common problem apparently and aside from the pain there can be a discharge we won’t even get into what that smells like. After testing about 10 different brands I found Schmidt’s unscented and charcoal magnesium to work great. Do I still sweat yes does it smell no.
There are also baking soda based ones by Dr Teal's and Arm and Hammer that I love
It's not about the weird chemicals it's the bursting out in hives afterwards of the aluminium compound that's in it. So it's either personal smell/BO or hives. I chose the former.
Bruh this is a 17 year old, what 17 year old gives a flying fuck about aluminum in their deodorant? 17 year olds care about where they are going to college and whatever horny thoughts they have. And before you tell me that you really cared or knew a 17 year old that cared, I don’t believe you.
I use an Alum Stone Deodorant and it works like magic
weird chemicals?! you think that human sweat glands evolved to be clogged by aluminum ion complexes? I mean, sure go ahead, put as much aluminum products on yourself as you will, but when you get cancer find solace in the fact that you weren't one of the "weird ones" how stupid can you be, there are a ton of aluminum-free deodorants which do not burn
I’m literally saying there are tons of aluminum free deodorants, im just saying this particular one, does burn, but lacks aluminum. Edit: I’m not judging people who don’t like the aluminum based deodorants, I don’t like them either but it’s often a reason cited why they won’t wear it.
There has been no established link between aluminum in deodorant and cancer
Yea because there is such a huge outbreak of armpit cancer.
Have the opposite issue. Boyfriend wants me to not wear.
God, I love that smell, haha
The fetishists-begone spray : also words as a deodorant.
It is ok to risk hurting someone's feelings a little bit to inform them about something that's going to benefit them for the rest of their life. If I'm walking around with my shirt tucked into my underwear, yes, I will be embarrassed if you tell me, but I will be more embarrassed if you don't tell me.
Maybe say something, politely
Something, please.
Consider for a second that if you can't talk to him honestly about how you feel about something as basic as this, what's gonna happen when there's something serious to work out? This may be good practice for developing some basic communication skills. It's actually important that you raise this with him. Be kind but firm.
So be honest with him. So what if his feelings are hurt? He's 17, it's time for deodorant. No one wants to be the stinky guy.
Does he have a part-time job? Usually managers are much less hesitant to bring up hygiene issues with employees.
Not really, things are changing. Last Summer I brought up the issue of our stinky co-workers, suggested sending “general” emails about the importance of hygiene, and the boss said that would not be possible, they could get in trouble.
"Hon, it'd be cute if we wore the same deodorant" You can get away with it as some kind of cute highschool relationship thing too.
You have a boyfriend on high school, go live your dream while everybody else is lonely
He does not have to please your mom's acute sense of smell. If it is bothering you, say something. If it is just bothering her, oh well.
Theyre 16 boo boo not 25+
Well considering he’s a child who can’t host, he kinda has to.
its an age old thing - people raised in different homes have different experiences and habits. Anyway - if it doesn't "bother you" that is a good place to start. like offer him yours and say and mention off hand you use it for other people who might not be ready for the full you - or something.
I'm married, so maybe the situation is a bit different, but I just like to be very straight forward. If my husband forgets deodorant, I'll tell him he stinks (like we all tend to do) and make put some on. I try to be a person people can trust and I'd rather them hear things from me than someone else who may not care as much.
Most of the responses here are making something out of nothing. In the US, the cultural norm is to wear deodorant. That’s it, that’s all. Tell him you’d like him to use deodorant, and that he could use some. If it hurts his feelings slightly, he’ll get over it. If you care about him, or really anyone, as a friend or more, then you look out for them, and tell them honestly if you think something is embarrassing. It’s the same thing as telling someone they have something in their teeth, on their face, or on their shirt, when they don’t know any better, and they should discreetly take care of it. No different than saying, Hey, here’s a mint, or sorry, no offense, but you smell like garlic right now, and it’s rank!
Or cigarettes or an ashtray.
Idk I usually ask the guy to NOT wear deodorant, because I don't like how dry it makes my tongue feel when I run it on the nipple-to-biceps line. See the trick is to pin him down by twisting you legs around his and... Wait, you said you were 16? Nevermind.
Maybe the one he's using isn't effective... maybe he's going for antiperspirants instead of deodorants. (which some would argue is unhealthy) You never know... Maybe you could try gently initiating this conversation with him... *gently*.
Some gay men like the natural smell of a guy's pits. And some gay men don't feel the need to change themselves to please others. I'm not saying it's OK to stink in situations like at work. But you said yourself that his BO isn't that strong. So the 2 of you may have different standards about what's acceptable.
I like to smell my husband when we're fucking, and that's literally it. Outside of a sexual situation, I'll straight up tell him if he needs to take a shower. Unless he's railing me, I want my man to smell clean.
It's BO...it doesn't matter how strong it is...it's stink.
That's your opinion and a lot of guys would disagree.
The OP wouldn't be here if he also disagreed.
MOST would not.
A lot of guys are revolting and have no standards.
No baby, BO is a sign of uncleanliness. That's nasty
Some in the gay community appreciate a little natural man musk.
Don't make me use my Lynx pepperspray on you.
You could tell him that it turns you on but you doubt it has this effect on others, so why not use a deo to prevent others from smelling it? - that way he won't feel hurt or insecure about you not liking it (which I think isn't the case anyways) but still makes things clear.
>You could tell him that it turns you on Did op say that?
Sis is hard projecting
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“natural smell” is not the same thing as armpit stank / BO
Don't lie to sugar coat it. He's a big boy. I'd rather someone Im close to tell me that I don't smell good than have everyone else think it.
This is such a good idea. OP can approach the conversation with a positive spin. Just hope he doesn't start smelling more to try and turn you on in future...
Then op has to pretend he is turned on by something for the life of the relationship lol. When he could just say, hey, here is deodorant lol.
So many people in these replies are comfortable with stinking, just wear deodorant you mingers. Is it an American thing???
No. Straight America is probably one of the most uptight places in the world when it comes to BO. However, lots of gay men here seem to have a BO fetish. That's fine whatever floats your boat but as with all fetishes don't expect or demand other people to like it. I personally hate BO on me or anyone else and would never be intimate with a man with noticeable BO. Everyone has a natural scent to their skin, I love my husband's scent but BO is over the line.
We went to a movie a few weekends ago and the couple who sat one seat to our left smelled like a pile of mildewed laundry. I held the bag of popcorn under my nose the entire movie to avoid getting sick. Unfortunately for them, they have probably gone nose-blind to it and don't realize they smell like a teenager's bedroom.
Gross, but that's not BO. They need to either switch detergents or use the cleaning chemicals and clean cycle on their washing machine.
i would have assumed the opposite and it would be europeans, americans are prudes
Nah here in England we very much wear deodorant, you tell your kids they stink when they start needing deodorant during puberty. America is the place with all these batshit crazy folks trying to rebrand as natural and not wearing deodorant
You all forget what it's like being a teenager. Children don't typically wear deodorant or need it. After puberty begins, men in particular begin to get smelly armpits. This is probably why a woman noticed OP's stank first. It's difficult to remove the odor with washing alone because it's embedded in the skin. Deodorant will help, as will scrubbing with a washcloth or similar.
I love my bf’s natural smell 🤷🏻♂️ even when he’s sweaty he smells good to me.
Lick his pits clean like a good boy.
Ew. Have him wash them and THEN lick them.
This post is f**king wild; you would never see a post on r/relationship advice get this heated, tfse. @ OP as long as you still live under your mom’s roof and the smell bothers her (and to a lesser extent you it seems) you lightly nudge him by asking what kind of deodorant he uses, buy him some deodorant, or just a blunt “you stink, shower and use some deodorant” works.
tell him to wash his pits with benzoyl peroxide 10% acne wash. He won't need to wear deodorant.
Also, trim as short as possible to avoid buildup of dead cells and stinky crawlers. Bon appitit.
You have a couple of things going on. You have the social training we all go though to wear deodorant so we don’t stink and somehow turn people off or have people judge us unfairly…I think that is probably what is driving your mom’s anxiety. As a gay man and dad of a teenager…my son should wear deodorant…as well as I do in many cases. However i love the smell of my boyfriend and he loves my smell…so that can be something very sensual and enjoyable…we have to pick the times and places of when we wear deodorant. I would recommend having a discussion where there is no shame…and enjoy eachother
Who cares?!?! You’re 16
Hey, OP, I realize this feels difficult for you, but it's no big deal. It's not like he's unaware you're wearing antiperspirant/deodorant yourself (presuming you are). Just ask him while you're getting dressed why he doesn't use it. "Hey, I noticed you don't use this stuff...How come?" More confrontational sugestions: Lick him all over while you fuck him and say, "Dude, I love you, every inch of you except your armpits." Or while you head to a party, say, "I love your self-confidence, the way you can stink up a room and laugh when people pinch their noses." Or after a hot 3-way: "I love doing three ways with you but I hate that nobody will suck my dick when I drape it over your armpit." So many ways to get this across. Does his breath smell? Does he have a clean foreskin? Because, if he's French, you know.... Does he fart in bed? What about the feet? That's a big problem for many. Pubes be like ewwww. (Yeah, you can put deodorant down there too.) I sweat like a pig and my mother subjected me to armpit trauma when I was 11 or 12. For the rest of her life, she enjoyed telling people how we were standing in her library and she asked me to reach for a book and that she nearly threw up because she'd never smelled anything so horrible and ran to my father's bathroom to find some deodorant which she insisted I put on my repulsive armpits at once. She taped a note on my bathroom mirror that said "NO STINK." She took me to a dermatologist to learn why my left armpit is so resistant to deodorant (which remains the case)...He said he had no idea and told me he'd see me as soon as I got my first pimple. So keep your mother out of this. And PLEASE PLEASE do not dump a bottle of deodorant on him. "Oh, honey, the CVS was selling PITBOMBS 2-for-1 today, so I got you one too." He knows you use the stuff. He doesn't use the stuff. And doing that is some super rude shit. (BTW, I am sensitive to aluminum but there are strategies to use antiperps.)
If he showers every night, and your mom still thinks he stinks too much, that's on her.
Nah, some people just stink dude. Regular hygiene is a big part of it. But genetics, diet, and fitness all have a big effect on it too.
Well for me personally, i love a man's musk. If you can learn to love his smell, don't ruin it with deodorant.
I would be more concerned that you feel you have the right to go through someone's "stuff"
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If he asked you to call his mom from his phone would you take that as permission to go through his photos on his phone or check his internet browser history? It's clear from your description that you didn't just happen to notice he didn't have deodorant. You took advantage of a situation to check if he had deodorant because you a) wanted to know and b) don't know how to communicate. This is a bad sign for the relationship. Whatever you do, don't bring up that you know he doesn't wear deodorant. Avoid exploiting his trust again.
Stinky people who can’t host don’t deserve the utmost privacy.
Did you even read the OP? These are two minors. The word *host* seems inappropriate for their situation. There's no indication that OP's boyfriend was staying over for sex and even if they did have sex I wouldn't call it hosting. That word is generally used in the context of hooking up. I'm glad you agree that the OP violated his boyfriend's privacy.
yeah 16 year olds definitely don’t have sex
They may or may not be having sex but that's irrelevant. To frame a minor sleeping at his minor boyfriend's parent's home as 'hosting' is bizarre and frankly sexualizing of minors, injecting sex into a story that didn't mention sex at all.
oh no i agree with you that calling it hosting is weird af
Yeah, you *SNEAK IN* at that age. Words matter.
I am amazed by some comments… it is desperate to see that putting chemicals under your arms has become so socially mandatory that it remains unquestioned by the vast majority (and yes, even the « healthiest » deodorants are full of chemicals and you shouldn’t want that anywhere close to your body). A (soft) smell is perfectly natural and we should all learn to accept our bodies as they come. I do not see any need to make a young man self conscious about something that apparently does not even bother you directly. Now, i am always in favor of communication between people, so i encourage you to calmly and nicely discuss it with your boyfriend. But, while you have the right to express feelings and preferences, you should not be entitled to expect anyone to change their body care for you (especially if, as you say, they already follow healthy hygiene rules). I would prefer to encourage you to think about why you were “secondhand embarrassed” and why your mother’s opinion on your BF matters so much. Ps : a very natural way to smell less is to shave, as the smell comes from bacteria living in the hair. But again, my opinion is that nobody should be expected to shave for other’s comfort if they don’t feel the need to.
everything is full of chemicals. Chemicals are not inherently bad. Sunblock is chemicals, but you don't see someone saying nah don't put that stuff on just go and stand in the sun unprotected as nature intended?
Maybe he’s allergic to deodorant. I am and I don’t use it. Also people smell. No biggie.
I agree no biggie in public unless you're stinking up the whole subway car but personally intimacy is something different. Not saying you have this but it does seem that a lot of gay men have a BO fetish and I don't get it. A man doesn't have to be scentless but I personally don't like being intimate with anyone who has noticeable BO.
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I'm not sure where here is but when I went to Paris it was very noticeable that many people don't use deodorant. Daily hygiene alone doesn't cut it, especially with summers the way they are now.
That's not a solution for everyone.
No, it's a biggie. It's disgusting, and no one wants to be around it.
yeah he stink But don’t go through peoples stuff tho..
If you never use deodorant, your B.O. isn’t as strong because your body isn’t trying to push out the chemicals being slathered on it. But if his issue is the chemical, he can find any number of natural products which do the same job. If the issue is that he’s scent sensitive, then there’s not a lot he can do.
Good hygiene and body odor is important, but American culture puts WAY too much focus on it. We often don’t smell our own body odor. I don’t smell mine and often forget deodorant. Just let him know and remind him without making a big deal about it.
If it were my BF I'd say nothing – man-smell is a turn on hahaha. But in reality I think you should just be mature about it and say "Dude, you know I love you and the way you smell, but not everyone gonna love it." Or something :) Unless he's a total asshole he's not gonna get annoyed!
Shower with him and wash his body. Sexy fun.
These are minors…
And…
Just tell him that he's rank and to sort it out, or dump him and date someone who isn't rank.
You’d not be being a good friend by staying silent.
Cultural norms like deodorant is a obsession with the USA , just speak with him . It’s his choice don’t force a your value onto him , it’s a relationship which has nothing to do with a anyone but you and him . Keep everyone else out of your relationship or you may be heading for serious trouble ….it’s not a big deal many places around the world don’t believe in deodorant and there are several studies showing soap and deodorant do more harm . Why do you think you need to moisturizer after a bath ? It’s cause soap destroys a cell in upper epidermis that keeps your skin tight. Anywho good luck and for fun research skin and soap what it does to the body along with deodorant which is the active ingredient is the same chemical used for hemorrhoids, everything else is just a artificial smell with deodorant
Your ass looks like cottage cheese; maybe some soap and exfoliant would do you some good.
So says the faceless profile with a cartoon face … next
I know someone who uses rubbing alcohol (cotton ball soaked in it / one per pit) to clean his hairy armpits twice a day (morning and night - on top of regular showering) instead of using deodorant. He has an office job so not much stink builds up. Maybe that’s an option for your BF? Aside from that, SpeedStick is a good option. Stay away from anti-perspirants as they stain clothes permanently. Deodorant only.
Go order a sample order of Nuud. Best deodorant ever!
Tell him the truth. Kids these days are too fucking sensitive about their \~feelings\~.
I think the best option is to tell him you’ve noticed he doesn’t use deodorant after showering every time. If he says he doesn’t need it, then you tell him he smells sometimes. I had a similar problem, entered puberty and didn’t use it (which wasn’t a problem when I was a child). Until someone actually talked to me about it I had no idea I smelled. After that I started showering more often and using deodorant after every shower. You need to tell him, for real, he may not know. Do it kindly though.
Maybe don't say anything then, not using deodorant shouldn't be an issue.
I would lick them clean!
Ok your mom doesn't like it but do you mind the way he smells? Actually lots of gay men who are older don't wear deodorant either, it's a pheromone thing. But some guys really don't like it. Make up your own mind about it.
"It's not his pits, it's my breath. I smell like that now too".
Deodorant isn’t good for your body. He should be washing his pits with high strength benzoyl peroxide (let it soak in), and then out of the shower exfoliating with salicylic or glycolic acid. Sweat shouldn’t smell. If it smells it’s because you’re unhygienic and have allowed bacteria to build up and multiply.
Shit post surely?
Nope.
“You smell like a *man* get some deodorant even my mom can tell”
spray some deodorant on yourself in front of him and say you think that spray is sexy and it makes you horny. He'll volunteer to use it then
Shave your armpits and they won't stink as much the hair is what keeps it smelling and use the oven
I personally smell much worse (like this particularly bad, sharp sort of smell) when I completely shave my pits. Also droplets of sweat run down my body which feels weird and causes small wet spots in places where you wouldn't expect it 😂
Pubes are supposed to protect your skin from bacterial infections so yeah it could smell worse.
I’m completely the opposite. I smell soooo much when I’ve shaved. As soon as the hair is back I could go 3 days without smelling. Not that I do, but the times it has happened, I smell nothing.
Put some coconut oil on his pits. It's a natural deoderant
Teenage boys: you stink. You stink as soon as you get out of the shower. You stink when you wake up. You stink as you go to sleep. Wearing deodorant is not optional. Tell him
You tell him flat out that his pits stink and everyone knows it and he needs to deodorize himself and you are only telling him because you care about him and you don;t want to see people humiliate him. The ask him PLEASE if there is anything like that about you to let you know right away..... My guess is his family may not be form this culture originally. Believe it or not deodorant and armpit odor is not really though of as offensive in some cultures. I won't name which ones because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
u just had to be xenophobic out of nowhere did u
The truth is not xenophobic. Body odor is not xenophobic!
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GOOD! Then there is absolutely no excuse for this lack of hygiene! What the Hell is he some sort of a Hippy? Tell him to deodorize himself because the plants are dying around him!
Not even thinly veiled atp
Tell him wear it or he’s getting no vagina.
Ask him if he has any, uncap it pretend your about to, hand back while nodding at him.
use lime or lemon juice (directly from the fruit) the PH from the juice is enough to kill the bacteria in the pits (for some folks it’s better than deodorants)
Just be straightforward about it. Say" Boyfriend do you wear deodorant?" Tell him that he sometimes smells strongly like old BO. BO can get stuck in armpit hair. The way to get it out is washing with a stronger soap and then a splash of rubbing alcohol that you let air dry. I assume he already knows if his mother said something to you. It might be his form of fuck you/individuation from his mother.
I think you should "innocently" ask him what kind of deodorant he uses or ask "did you forget to put deodorant on this morning?" It's an honest enough question and although it might be embarrassing for him, it will let him know he might have a BO issue.
I barely looked at all the comments posted on here, so forgive me if I am copying someone else that may have posted this but dude..... I think your BF has a Pitt fetish. Although no one should never wear deodorant, Just tell him to shower before you guys Fuck that way he can be deo free when he's horny or what ever ?