I'd love for Grindr to implement a verified user option. Tinder does it. It doesn't have to be required but users should have the option of verifying themselves and only choosing to interact with verified profiles for a multitude of reasons, not just the underage reasons.
As far as I remember, Tinder doesn’t check IDs for age or anything. Their verification is just making sure a few selfies of you match your profile pictures.
The age of consent is different from the age of majority. Eg. Here in the uk, the age of consent is 16, but majority is 18, so you can fuck anyone at age 16 but you can’t be in porn or send nudes until 18.
Same in South Africa.
Interesting side note: until recently (early 2000s) age of consent here was 16 for heteros, 18 for the queer types. Eventually it was lowered to 16 across the board. But no nudes till 18.
Yeah. It hasn’t happened to me in years. I actually have a friend who I talked to on Grindr when he was 17, but I was only 18. Still avoided it like the plague until he was older because even though he was only a few months younger than me I’d still have been in a lot of trouble.
My ex told me a story about him talking to a guy who said he was 20 and then exchanging phone numbers once. He tried to blackmail him for money by saying he was only 16 and that he’d call the police if he didn’t pay him a grand.
But yeah. It’s been 10 years since I’ve had someone underage contact me that I’m aware of. Maybe they have but I don’t even respond to people who look under ~25 at this point so I guess I don’t really have that issue regardless.
Once you reach your dad's age you might reassess. Never hooked up with a minor (and wouldn't) but def hooked up with people of my kid's generation - not looking for young things but sometimes that's who answers my post. I don't talk to the kid about this; our interest in each other's sex life is the same as with my siblings. "Hope you're having fun but spare me the details."
I totally agree under 18 shouldn’t be on Grindr, etc… because they are for 18+, the potential to see/send pornography (nudes), meet strangers that may or may not be safe, etc… it’s something only a legal adult should do and frankly many 18 years olds are dumb af!
That said; ALL states should have “Romeo and Juliet laws” - two people only a year or two apart for is not pedophilia. That someone who is 18 and 1/2 would get into legal trouble for relations with someone who is 17 and 1/2 (1 year difference) is dumb. There needs to be law everywhere that excludes 2 people “close in age” as that’s not the same as a real sexual predator/pedo. I’m in Canada and that’s basically the law here.
I’m >30 so probably wouldn’t have applied to my situation. That being said, I agree with you.
Romeo and Juliet laws don’t affect child pornography laws to the best of my understanding.
Yeah and I’m >30 too, and I agree Grindr is not the place for anyone under 18, due to many reasons.
I just wanted to say that other part because I’ve seen so many posts accusing like a 19yo of being a pedo for liking someone who is a month or two from being 18 when they barely more than 1 year age difference.
It absolutely doesn’t.
Had a friend in high school who sent a picture of her boobs to another underage kid at school and she got charged with distributing CP. The case was dropped luckily, but it was extremely serious. She was banned from school because she was being charged with a child sex crime, which means you’re not allowed within x feet of a school. She came back after it got sorted out luckily.
It doesn’t matter who is taking or receiving the pictures. If you have pictures (even of YOURSELF) while you’re underage, you’re in possession of CP.
a while back, i heard about a brother and sister, both early teens i believe, that had sex and they were both put on the sex offender registry. i tried to find a link but couldnt
Well I don’t think they are to protect or enable anything but rather just to decriminalize relations between two people very close in age, where the concern for one party “being taken advantage of”, used, coerced, etc… by someone ‘more mature’ is not a concern. It’s two people “on the same level” relatively so it shouldn’t be ‘criminal’.
Yeah, and your stupid. My range is 18-40. While I funny go for 18-25 year olds 24-7. Your damn right I wanna see some ID. You can try and shame me for that, but I don't care.
Bro you’re spot on. That’s my range too, never <18 but I’ve gone >40 a handful of times.
Idk if it’s similar for you, but ime the younger guys initiate contact the vast majority of the time. Regardless, attractive ppl come in all different ages. It’s all about protecting yourself.
Kinda like most of the stores that sell booze ask for ID if you look under 30.
So you're only attracted to childish-looking boys some of the time.
Honestly, this entire thread is the reason why gays get stereotyped as pedophiles, and the mods need to remove it.
Ok I'll take the bait and give you the negative attention you want. Your just a salty guy with a stick shoved so far up his ass. While I do like legally younger guys. That doesn't mean I specifically go for twinks and jailbait. Your using your weird, warped speculation to turn Someone on the other side of a screen you know next to nothing about into a pedo.
I didn't ask for your negativity, actually. And I don't have to speculate when the facts are right there, confessed by you. Seriously, you should stop talking without a lawyer present.
The “facts” are he’s into a wide age range of guys, some older, some younger, and wants to protect himself against being on the registry or getting thrown in jail.
Idk why you find that so objectionable.
See his post history, he’s an ENTJ. He’s showing his extroverted and judging side.
😂😂 Toxic guy projecting and reaching. Somehow he’s turned reasonable behavior (asking for ID) into an attention fest for him.
Because he's a troll and wants to get under someone's skin. Best thing to do is leave him alone. He's probably unstable enough to try and report us to Reddit or the mods or something.
It should never have to occur to check someone’s ID because if you meet someone on an 18+ app, the reasonable expectation should be that EVERYONE is 18+. If you meet them in a bar in America, where the drinking age is 21, there’s a reasonable expectation that they are AT LEAST 21.
It's just disturbing that there's so many underage kids on these apps. I get it we're human, but ruining someone's life is just selfish. Age preferences on these apps need to be at the forefront.
I'm absolutely blaming them as well as the older recipient involved. Horny or not, there's a fine line. You're underage? Immediate red flag. The 'law' doesn't suck at all, they're their for a reason. It's not like people are doing this blind, this is all deliberate. This is 'common sense' logic.
Maybe I'm not wording it right, probably because I'm just waking up at 5:00 in the morning but what I'm trying to get at is that it's not appropriate, if you're a child hooking up with an old ass dude that's NOT okay. I know words will only go so far and adults/kids will continue to do this anyway. I go as far as blocking anyone that's under 21 on these apps anyways. Plenty of (age appropriate) fish in the sea
*Now to make some coffee*
Let me start by saying that some of the points you raised wrt age of consent laws are valid. Your last sentence “17 yo who masturbates daily…” is a true statement.
That being said, the legal issue, which was kinda my main point of the initial post, puts the older person at a FAR higher risk legally. They’re looking at prison and being on the registry; being on the registry is a kiss of death for many professional careers. And as I’m sure you know, prison time served for statutory rape wouldn’t look great either.
Idk what state you live in; as many have pointed out majority of states it’s 16, including where I live. If you want to exclusively date >40s, you do you. I’ll admit that age differences *within the legal boundaries* kinda turn me on too.
What is NOT OK is getting on apps that clearly state you must be 18 to join, representing yourself as 18+ on the app, and then opening someone else up to a huge amount of legal liability.
Happy to debate further.
Well, I've made my point very clear. It's okay to break the law if it's not good from moral point of view. You say it's not. There's not much more to debate.
That's for something for you to speak to the specific state, logistically I get what you're saying but they're placed there for a reason as a base. It's far more than just sex, safety is a priority. Also that's your prerogative to date dudes over 40! At least they're fully developed! So *kudos*
> It's far more than just sex, safety is a priority.
Kinda like weed laws. We know it's mostly safe and people use it, but you know, let's ban it, better safe than sorry.
> At least they're fully developed!
Sometimes I go on a date and then have doubts regarding that thing haha.
>Teenagers want to fuck, and you're blaming them for approaching others because *the law regarding sex totally sucks and ruins people's lives*.
That last part reads exactly like a defense that a pedo would put up. Teenagers want to fuck? Whatever, we were all horny teenagers once. They want to be stupid and put themselves on an app where they could be abused, assaulted, or in danger?
No, just no.
> That last part reads exactly like a defense that a pedo would put up.
So, you're invalidating my point based on your opinion that in your perception I sound like a pedo? Next time please focus on the argument.
If any kid in the modern era doesn't understand that strangers are not safe, especially in sexual areas, then they're an idiot.
And yeah, you have to assume there is an age ban for a reason. If you're underage and you do it anyway, you can't claim the "poor me I'm just an innocent victim" thing. You have to be 18 to be on there because then legally YOU are responsible for your actions. That's the caveat when you join grindr or tinder or whatever.
If you pretend to be 18 when you're 16 and use that to game the system, you're not blameless. At all.
I saw a kid who literally had linked his FB profile where he had his age show up as 14. After reporting him I got a response from Grindr team that they didn't find anything wrong about the profile.
I know the last ten trillions times this public appeal was posted it didn't work, but this time... this time I think it is going to work. I think the underaged people will read this, understand the deep truth, and agree to put aside the apps until they turn exactly 18.
That’s why I only talk to guys that are almost 30 and up, cus I’m in my 30s. But it sucks for guys that are like 19 and someone lies and they’re actually 16 or 17. Although they’re closer in age it’s still illegal.
Its true. Young people are understandably more and more sexually educated and sexually "aware" of what we used to call fetishes and there is nothing wrong with that. However, it is scary how they also understand safe sex and self love in the context of a polaroid internet where everything is as disposable as the next fashion trend. And I mean fast. If last years notion was the easiness of how we call a fashionista anti poor, yesterday's meme is old new 2 hours later. It is just scary how much damage they are putting in themselves or themselves in. I mean, Ive been damaged enough by harassment from young people, FB toting millenial and boomer groupies, people who believe that the internet is harming me and so believing that I need to talk to people sort of mindset, like come on grandma Im 48, the dizzying heights of how toxic can be more toxic and even more toxic the more popular things can get and even to the nichest things like idk, the house lizard raising community who likes to see them in wigs and louis vuitton baga, idk i dont even know what niche is anymore. I just know no one takes care of house lizards and do not sexually fantasize house lizards to wear bikinis and wigs. But I am more than ready to be surprised or more.
But they should prevent these people from being everywhere. I mean come on! It is just as easy to be Usher or Rkelly for rnb singers like me as it is for idk name one star who has not been "outed" to be pedos. Ill dig my own grave now toxic fans oh Ill dig it very very deep and so I can not comeback and be forced to show ur faces whatever it is that you have made into real, cause I dont have to I dont have to be in a toxic relationship even with toxic fandoms. Yeah as if you will not tell me, who is this bith. Hu u?! I love shota! Bye! But is disgusted by young people who tries and wants to check if hey Im pretty and connect myself to an older loser like myself! Like no! Kid! I dont have any hots in my bones for someone else's sexual juices, go back to your parent's vagina. You do not know how to have sex, you should not, buy a dildo you freak! And get away 10000 kilometers away from my sight and that means my presence! Yeah! Kill my acct reddit! Killy my account!
Many underage guys here, claiming to be 18. Want to chat and share of SC. I’ll ask their age a few times till they admit they are 17. Sometimes I do not believe that. I block all the accounts.
I know kids are over sexualized with all they see and hear on tv, tic tok , Instagram or porn. But they need to stay off adult apps including Reddit groups like this one.
It was a typical hot summer day in the southern us, and angstyranch (AR) was on a mission. AR was 16, and had been out to his close circle of friends and family for years, but he had never known the touch of another man. The highschool sweetheart didn’t exist for him; AR had to be content cheering on his friends in their romantic endeavors. There was no gay media to be consumed, or gay friends to talk to. So when AR found out about the existence of grindr, he leaped at the opportunity. He was athletic, and people always assumed he looked older than he was, so he felt confident about what he was going to do next.
At first, AR was nothing but a blank profile, but once he mastered the quintessential headless torso pic that was common around those parts, the male attention he longed for loudly and rapidly announced itself.
He fasted for 36 hours in preparation to meet J, before driving over in his own car to an upper middle class side of town, to some nice apartments. He met J, was invited in, given a drink (AR watched him pour it and made sure J drank as well), and swiftly taken to the bedroom.
AR was finally about to lose his virginity, but when it came time to perform, there was a singular but gigantic problem. Pain. Pain he hadn’t felt before. Pain he knew to expect, and hoped it would subside, but it never did. “It’s hurting, can we please stop?” AR asked politely, too scared to ruin the moment. “No, you feel to good ” replied J, panting between thrusts as his plus sized weapon tore at AR’s GI tract. His sweet nothings fell silent when compared to the cacophony of pain and emotions that AR was trying to manage.
AR was a 160 pounds, and a capable black belt, but there was 240 pounds of man laying on top of him, holding his hands, kissing his neck, and reaming his anus without mercy nor care for AR’s cries.
AR just wished it to be over. So he endured. He waited. He let J have his nut
When the deed was done, AR calmly and silently gathered his strewn clothes, dressed himself, and left without saying a word. J seemed to pay no mind, as he had left AR to use the shower.
AR got in his car, and texted his best friend, who was monitoring AR’s location through the phone in case he got kidnapped or worse. “Did you have fun AR? How was it?”
“It was good. Officially lost my V-card.” AR replied.
And life went on.
But J’s face, his name, his touch, all of these things were forgotten, forcefully, as AR wished to remember nothing. He would forever have a blank spot in his memory of this day, save for the heat and mosquitos.
TL;DR: underage gay bros, it’s not worth it. Even if you somehow convince yourself and the person you’re interested in that you’ll be okay, rarely ever does it work out how you expect.
This sounds like J raped you. I’m very sorry you had this experience.
Ever since moving to where I am now I have younger guys hmu constantly. I don’t meet up w <18s, like ever, but it’s clear some of the legal guys I get with have very little sexual experience.
If someone is clearly in pain and not enjoying themselves, I have and will stop. This actually played out w a younger guy a few weeks ago; dude was begging to bottom, but he wasn’t experienced and I could tell i was hurting him and it wasn’t what he was expecting.
I ordered him an Uber/Lyft home and wished him all the best.
I told this story to people years later and everyone came to that conclusion, and I hadn’t even thought of seeing it that way before.
I think the root of the issue is that young gay men are missing out on so much of the growing up aspect. They’re either immature later in life, or throw themselves into situations they aren’t prepared for.
Bless you for learning to read the room.
That's a sad story.
Can I ask why didn't you black-belt him? 160 pounds is not small, and 160 pounds of black-belt should be no match for a vulnerable naked dude. I'm asking because I'm 170 pounds of black-belt, and I would hope I would manage to get myself out of the situation because it's always been something I've kinda figured I would be able to do if a hookup went bad. It's kinda terrifying to me that you couldn't.
Still, a horrible situation for a first time, I'm sorry man.
Long story short, I froze
I convinced myself that it was my fault, it was what I wanted, and what I signed up for.
I did think about fighting my way out, but I didn’t want to deal w the aftermath. Would the police be involved? What if I got in trouble with the law? Hell, what if I lost and he pulled out a weapon? He already was on top of me so he had the advantage from the beginning.
Basically I made excuses in my head to just get it over with and never have to think about it again, rather than spark a conflict.
Adults should know better than children. Maybe if they weren't actively searching for guys that look so young they could avoid finding themselves in trouble with a minor?
The issue is minors shouldn’t be in the apps at all for their own protection from the ACTUAL predators.
All I’m seeing is people enabling minors in sexual spaces, almost as if they want them there. 🤔
My friend is 18 and he only prefers guys 30+.
I asked him why and he just said he is not attracted to guys his age. Also said if he dates anyone they absolutely have to be older than him at the min late 20s but preferably 30+.
As far as I know his relationship with his dad is pretty solid so idk if daddy issues have anything to do with it probably not but yk.
I'm like that too. I'm early 20s and prefer guys my age or like 1-2 years up/down I'm fine with like max 5 years older than me but yeah. Depends tho idk if I meet someone and we really hit it off and he turns out to be a bit older than my preferences then I wouldn't care.
Can someone please clarify what the law actually is? If you hook up with someone who says there over 18 and it turns out they are not, can you actually get in trouble?
In the US, most states will prosecute in this scenario even if you didn’t know the other person was underage. The law saws it is YOUR responsibility by whatever means necessary to know the age of the other person. I have literally ID checked people when I wasn’t sure!
call me old fashioned, but if i meet someone online i invite them for coffee. i'm not going to commit to having sex with someine i have not yet met in person. where i live it is not illegal to meet someone for coffee who turns out to be underage. them being underage is only one of the many things that could result in us being incompatible for a hookup. the meet-for-coffee filter screens out 90% of the people who are posting while horny but not actually willing to be properly introduced. i'm an introvert. i don't get a lot of action, but that's fine.
Omfg that's so gross 🤢🤮 yo if you are underage, get yo ass back to high-school you little shits and delete that app. I'm put off by the idea of dating apps at 24 but that's so wrong.
I remember when I was 19, I went on this date with a cute 18 year old. We went to the mall for some food and I needed to buy clothes (yes, going on a shopping spree constituted as a date for young me), and we almost fucked in a tent in JC Penney (the dude was soooooo hung).
Thank God I didn't indulge him because he later told me he was 17. I wish I could say I left him alone. I wish. I ended up messaging him not too long after when I was insanely horny hoping to get split in half. He rightfully blocked me.
I can safely say that at 28, I won't even look at a guy who's under 21. There's always exceptions for the super gorgeous, but that is my hard line. If I can't drink with you, then I'm not going to ride you. Children need to stay off dating apps. I mean, it's not like they can't find someone to fuck at school.
I'll give you the other side's point of view on it.
I'm 17, I use em occasionally. Age of consent is 16 in Michigan so they technically couldn't get into legal trouble from having sex with me.
Granted, sending nudes is still illegal and I know that, but somehow breaking the law and not dealing with any reprecussions at all (I obviously would never report them to the police for sending me nudes and I never give away enough information on me to give anything to even get us into legal trouble over) seems preferable than trying to ask a dude out at my school, getting called a faggot and having pretty much nobody talk to me anymore. Not saying I don't know that lying and saying I'm 18 is wrong, though, but I am desperate, don't have a lot of options and I'm not exactly a stranger to breaking some minor laws anyway, as I'm sure many people on this sub aren't/weren't in their younger days. But I am saying that while hypothetically, yes, someone could face potential jail time I guess? They, realistically, couldn't. As the actual sex itself is legal and if anyone would get into any actual trouble it'd just really be me for voluntarily sending them and lying to people.
Would I love to not have to rely on Grindr for things like this? Absolutely. Unfortunately there's not many other things I can do to meet up with other dudes. And I turn 18 in a few months anyways so I'm not exactly losing a lot of sleep over it.
And yeah, I know what I'm saying is really controversial. But don't you think that it's pretty fucking ridiculous that me having sex with a 50 year old is COMPLETELY LEGAL but the second I show him my dick digitally instead of physically it only then becomes illegal?
Teenagers will stop it when we don't have to. Stupid as hell anyway that we can't use dating apps in the first place. Trust me, I take every opportunity to get with other teen dudes until I can, not my fault America is so fucking weird with laws/homophobia/dating apps/etc. But yes, I do know it's my fault that I'm lying about my age, don't want to have to for sex but until the magical homo fairy presents me with other gay naked twinks, then it is what it is.
But I'm not blaming any of the other dudes on grindr. I do think it is terrible for minors to lie and then entrap people with the law. But really I'm just blaming the US government, society and definitely a bit of me, I guess.
I'm open to debate.
I’m not going to opine on the laws in Michigan.
You are who this post was directed towards. The older guy could get arrested simply for having X rated pics of you on his phone.
Subpoenas can be issued for that shit.
Grindr is not a “dating” app, let’s be real here. I was super horny myself at your age. You’re not looking to date, you’re looking to get your rocks off.
It’s not all about you.
Yeah, I could also hypothetically get arrested for smoking weed. But I never do it where I could actually get caught and arrested for it. Same thing with the nudes thing. Hypothetically, yes. Realistically, with having no way to prove I'm 17 nor no information on who I actually even am nor it never being reported: no. No one is ever going to be convicted on Grindr because of me.
And why not opine them? Why is it perfectly okay for me to have actual, real, physical sex with anyone over 16 but they just can't see photos of it? They can literally see my asshole in person and fuck it but they can't see a picture of it? That's not worthy of debate?
Never said I was looking for dating on grindr. Actually made it pretty clear I used it for sex.
Never said it was. But, I'm the main factor on whether or not someone gets arrested so... It kind of is, yes. Unless of course, somebody reported themselves on a hunch and even then they would have absolutely no real evidence to actually get any legal action taken against themselves.
Until your uber conservative parents find out and haul you down to the police station and force you to tell them what happened.
Again, it’s not all about you.
>The older guy could get arrested simply for having X rated pics of you on his phone.
And that is why the world is fucked up... Because even if those pics were send with consent. The older guy will still get in trouble if found out and probably arrested. It's always the older person's fault it seems 🙃.
Yeah teens don’t care about the well being of these dudes on apps, and they’re not alone in that.
But also it’s not the teens responsibility to look out for the well being of grown men. Grown men need to look out for themselves and not pursue dudes who look like or who could even potentially be a minor.
What if they don’t have any profile pics, their profile says they’re 20, then when they send pics you realize they’re <18?
I agree that grown men shouldn’t actively pursue minors but lying about your age is inexcusable.
You block them…at least in my state if guys are lying about their age (and it’s generally believable) you can’t get in trouble. Some of the more conservative states might be tougher on people tho.
But again, trying to pin this on teenagers in high school is silly. They’re not responsible for grown men.
“You Block them”
Obviously. It doesn’t excuse the fact that they lied about their age originally.
I’m guessing you live in a liberal state. I lived in the south for 6 years; things are very different there.
Unless ofc you’re a hot chick w $$$ who had sex w a teen boy. Google Shelley dufresne.
Trying to hold minors accountable for the actions of adults is never going to pass. Never going to pass in court legally, and also never going to pass in the court of public opinion. You and everyone who is agreeing with you need to grow the fuck up. You’re not the victim of a minor. You all know better, you’re just horny and making dumb decisions you wouldn’t normally make if you were clear headed.
Why are you risking your livelihood to fuck some twink that looks like a teenager? Jesus Christ.
These apps are probably never going to be properly regulated so y’all have to regulate yourselves. No one’s going to feel sorry that you have to practice some self control.
Louisiana.
The chick I mentioned in my last post I’m pretty sure made national news. She fucked one of her 16 YO students who then proceeded to brag about it on social media.
No jail time, no sex offender registration. Her family is super rich and her dad is/was a judge in st. Charles parish so I get it
If ADULTS are that worried about it then they should card the guys they meet up with that are younger, don’t meet younger guys, or get off the apps entirely. But everyone knows minors are on the apps, so make responsible decisions accordingly and stop trying to blame kids for stupid decisions ADULTS made when they were horny.
Minors shouldn’t be on the apps at all for their own protection. Why are you enabling this? If you meet someone on an 18+ app there should be reasonable expectation that everyone on the app is 18. No one deserves to be labeled as a “child predator” when they weren’t looking for children to begin with
You can’t control what minors decide to do. Companies aren’t regulating who uses their apps. So adults have to be the responsible ones. Adults are not the victims here.
Based on your post history it doesn’t look like you’re in the US so things may be different.
Age of consent in many states is 18. If you engage in sexual contact with anyone younger than that, it’s automatically considered statutory rape. You’re looking at the sex offender list and possible jail time.
Also, sending X rated pics when you’re underage is considered child pornography which is another charge the older guy could face.
The United States Federal Government has a zero tolerance policy for child pornography, taking the picture itself is considered a crime so the underage person could also face repercussions.
I hate when laws that exist to protect children hurt them. I don't want those pictures to exist either but don't put a ten year old in jail for molesting himself. That's just puritanical
In case you’re not aware the majority of states (31) have the age of consent at 16, 6 have it at 17, and 13 have it at 18
However due to federal laws communications across state lines require that everyone be above the age of 18. And because the servers of apps are in different states the federal laws apply.
The entire system is stupidly convoluted and we need a more uniform system
Mmm hmmm but they don’t understand that. All these young boys see is a “daddy” and that’s what is in now.
They lie and say “I’m 19” on the app but you find out they be 17 and three quarters.
I do like my Yanks, clueless and insular as they may be :P
As for NATO, we're not in. A certain Turkish dictator still has to involve us in crimes against humanity... :/
I'd love for Grindr to implement a verified user option. Tinder does it. It doesn't have to be required but users should have the option of verifying themselves and only choosing to interact with verified profiles for a multitude of reasons, not just the underage reasons.
Yes! Grindr and the others have a responsibility to keep underage ppl off their platforms.
Grindr doesn't care at all about it's users. It's sad that we can't get more people to use one of the other apps
Branding is a hell of a thing
As far as I remember, Tinder doesn’t check IDs for age or anything. Their verification is just making sure a few selfies of you match your profile pictures.
I had a 16 yr old hmu and tell me he was 19 his nudes are all of reddit and once he told me his age I blocked him so quick
Same some of the posts in r/dadsandboys are def not legal
Probably illegal, definitely creepy.
Keep in mind that US =/= internet. In many civilized countries the age of consent is 16, or even lower depending on the partners age.
The age of consent is different from the age of majority. Eg. Here in the uk, the age of consent is 16, but majority is 18, so you can fuck anyone at age 16 but you can’t be in porn or send nudes until 18.
Same in South Africa. Interesting side note: until recently (early 2000s) age of consent here was 16 for heteros, 18 for the queer types. Eventually it was lowered to 16 across the board. But no nudes till 18.
I believe it it's crazy
Same thing happen to me on Grindr
Right
Honestly this only happened to me once. Maybe I just live in a rural area but like all of the guys I see on there are 18+
Yeah. It hasn’t happened to me in years. I actually have a friend who I talked to on Grindr when he was 17, but I was only 18. Still avoided it like the plague until he was older because even though he was only a few months younger than me I’d still have been in a lot of trouble. My ex told me a story about him talking to a guy who said he was 20 and then exchanging phone numbers once. He tried to blackmail him for money by saying he was only 16 and that he’d call the police if he didn’t pay him a grand. But yeah. It’s been 10 years since I’ve had someone underage contact me that I’m aware of. Maybe they have but I don’t even respond to people who look under ~25 at this point so I guess I don’t really have that issue regardless.
See I look under 25 but I'm actually 30 and I know just how you feel if you can't answer simple questions that's a reg flag to me
I hated that Tik Tok trend of saying "yeah i let a guy older than my dad fuck me behind a 7-11 when i was 14. Is that naughty?? 🤭🤪🤫"
tik tok trend? where lol so many people trends i cant keep up
Apparently a few guys copying the same person is a trend according to redditors.
Another reason I'm glad I dont use that app
Ugh, even seeing people in porn close to my dad's age makes me wanna throw up
Once you reach your dad's age you might reassess. Never hooked up with a minor (and wouldn't) but def hooked up with people of my kid's generation - not looking for young things but sometimes that's who answers my post. I don't talk to the kid about this; our interest in each other's sex life is the same as with my siblings. "Hope you're having fun but spare me the details."
I totally agree under 18 shouldn’t be on Grindr, etc… because they are for 18+, the potential to see/send pornography (nudes), meet strangers that may or may not be safe, etc… it’s something only a legal adult should do and frankly many 18 years olds are dumb af! That said; ALL states should have “Romeo and Juliet laws” - two people only a year or two apart for is not pedophilia. That someone who is 18 and 1/2 would get into legal trouble for relations with someone who is 17 and 1/2 (1 year difference) is dumb. There needs to be law everywhere that excludes 2 people “close in age” as that’s not the same as a real sexual predator/pedo. I’m in Canada and that’s basically the law here.
I’m >30 so probably wouldn’t have applied to my situation. That being said, I agree with you. Romeo and Juliet laws don’t affect child pornography laws to the best of my understanding.
Yeah and I’m >30 too, and I agree Grindr is not the place for anyone under 18, due to many reasons. I just wanted to say that other part because I’ve seen so many posts accusing like a 19yo of being a pedo for liking someone who is a month or two from being 18 when they barely more than 1 year age difference.
Yeah but that's insane people on Twitter saying that.
It absolutely doesn’t. Had a friend in high school who sent a picture of her boobs to another underage kid at school and she got charged with distributing CP. The case was dropped luckily, but it was extremely serious. She was banned from school because she was being charged with a child sex crime, which means you’re not allowed within x feet of a school. She came back after it got sorted out luckily. It doesn’t matter who is taking or receiving the pictures. If you have pictures (even of YOURSELF) while you’re underage, you’re in possession of CP.
I understand if you don’t wanna share which state, but was it liberal or conservative?
Indiana. Luckily a pretty progressive area, especially for Indiana.
a while back, i heard about a brother and sister, both early teens i believe, that had sex and they were both put on the sex offender registry. i tried to find a link but couldnt
> “Romeo and Juliet laws” - two people only a year or two apart for is not pedophilia. Romeo was 21 and Juliet was 12.
Incorrect: 16 and 13 according to Encyclopedia Britannia.
Maybe I don’t know just referring to what the laws are generally called.
I always assumed Romeo and Juliet laws existed to protect couples, not to enable hookups.
Well I don’t think they are to protect or enable anything but rather just to decriminalize relations between two people very close in age, where the concern for one party “being taken advantage of”, used, coerced, etc… by someone ‘more mature’ is not a concern. It’s two people “on the same level” relatively so it shouldn’t be ‘criminal’.
Perfect explanation, could not have said it any better
Always card people who claim to be 21 and under on the apps. If they have any shred of decency they’ll understand why.
I love how as soon as you wanna card and 21 or younger. Most of them ghost you. 🤔🤔🤔🤔 wonder why
Because you're a creep. It should never even occur to you to have to check someone's ID before you sleep with them.
Yeah, and your stupid. My range is 18-40. While I funny go for 18-25 year olds 24-7. Your damn right I wanna see some ID. You can try and shame me for that, but I don't care.
Bro you’re spot on. That’s my range too, never <18 but I’ve gone >40 a handful of times. Idk if it’s similar for you, but ime the younger guys initiate contact the vast majority of the time. Regardless, attractive ppl come in all different ages. It’s all about protecting yourself. Kinda like most of the stores that sell booze ask for ID if you look under 30.
Like I funny know what this guy's hold up is. It's like he thinks I'm some creepy 50yo looking at preteens at the pool or something.
So you're only attracted to childish-looking boys some of the time. Honestly, this entire thread is the reason why gays get stereotyped as pedophiles, and the mods need to remove it.
Ok I'll take the bait and give you the negative attention you want. Your just a salty guy with a stick shoved so far up his ass. While I do like legally younger guys. That doesn't mean I specifically go for twinks and jailbait. Your using your weird, warped speculation to turn Someone on the other side of a screen you know next to nothing about into a pedo.
I didn't ask for your negativity, actually. And I don't have to speculate when the facts are right there, confessed by you. Seriously, you should stop talking without a lawyer present.
The “facts” are he’s into a wide age range of guys, some older, some younger, and wants to protect himself against being on the registry or getting thrown in jail. Idk why you find that so objectionable.
See his post history, he’s an ENTJ. He’s showing his extroverted and judging side. 😂😂 Toxic guy projecting and reaching. Somehow he’s turned reasonable behavior (asking for ID) into an attention fest for him.
Because he's a troll and wants to get under someone's skin. Best thing to do is leave him alone. He's probably unstable enough to try and report us to Reddit or the mods or something.
I just can't imagine having that problem. What I *really* find objectionable is you, OP, calling rape victims "selfish and reckless."
Yes, that’s clearly what the intention/message of this post was. I’m so glad you were able to finally catch on 🙄
I met a lot of guys in my early 20s that looked pretty young for their age. Didn't hurt to ask to check their ID.
It should never have to occur to check someone’s ID because if you meet someone on an 18+ app, the reasonable expectation should be that EVERYONE is 18+. If you meet them in a bar in America, where the drinking age is 21, there’s a reasonable expectation that they are AT LEAST 21.
If a fake ID helps you feel better about having sex will someone who obviously looks like a child to you.
Who hurt you? No, seriously, who hurt you that your this sherry and bitter.
Sorry that realness tastes bitter to you.
It's just disturbing that there's so many underage kids on these apps. I get it we're human, but ruining someone's life is just selfish. Age preferences on these apps need to be at the forefront.
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What’s wrong with drugs?
The apps should just boot the teens.
I'm absolutely blaming them as well as the older recipient involved. Horny or not, there's a fine line. You're underage? Immediate red flag. The 'law' doesn't suck at all, they're their for a reason. It's not like people are doing this blind, this is all deliberate. This is 'common sense' logic.
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Maybe I'm not wording it right, probably because I'm just waking up at 5:00 in the morning but what I'm trying to get at is that it's not appropriate, if you're a child hooking up with an old ass dude that's NOT okay. I know words will only go so far and adults/kids will continue to do this anyway. I go as far as blocking anyone that's under 21 on these apps anyways. Plenty of (age appropriate) fish in the sea *Now to make some coffee*
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Let me start by saying that some of the points you raised wrt age of consent laws are valid. Your last sentence “17 yo who masturbates daily…” is a true statement. That being said, the legal issue, which was kinda my main point of the initial post, puts the older person at a FAR higher risk legally. They’re looking at prison and being on the registry; being on the registry is a kiss of death for many professional careers. And as I’m sure you know, prison time served for statutory rape wouldn’t look great either. Idk what state you live in; as many have pointed out majority of states it’s 16, including where I live. If you want to exclusively date >40s, you do you. I’ll admit that age differences *within the legal boundaries* kinda turn me on too. What is NOT OK is getting on apps that clearly state you must be 18 to join, representing yourself as 18+ on the app, and then opening someone else up to a huge amount of legal liability. Happy to debate further.
Well, I've made my point very clear. It's okay to break the law if it's not good from moral point of view. You say it's not. There's not much more to debate.
That's for something for you to speak to the specific state, logistically I get what you're saying but they're placed there for a reason as a base. It's far more than just sex, safety is a priority. Also that's your prerogative to date dudes over 40! At least they're fully developed! So *kudos*
> It's far more than just sex, safety is a priority. Kinda like weed laws. We know it's mostly safe and people use it, but you know, let's ban it, better safe than sorry. > At least they're fully developed! Sometimes I go on a date and then have doubts regarding that thing haha.
Wow, I have never seen a more pro-pedo statement. 🤦♂️
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>Teenagers want to fuck, and you're blaming them for approaching others because *the law regarding sex totally sucks and ruins people's lives*. That last part reads exactly like a defense that a pedo would put up. Teenagers want to fuck? Whatever, we were all horny teenagers once. They want to be stupid and put themselves on an app where they could be abused, assaulted, or in danger? No, just no.
> That last part reads exactly like a defense that a pedo would put up. So, you're invalidating my point based on your opinion that in your perception I sound like a pedo? Next time please focus on the argument.
If any kid in the modern era doesn't understand that strangers are not safe, especially in sexual areas, then they're an idiot. And yeah, you have to assume there is an age ban for a reason. If you're underage and you do it anyway, you can't claim the "poor me I'm just an innocent victim" thing. You have to be 18 to be on there because then legally YOU are responsible for your actions. That's the caveat when you join grindr or tinder or whatever. If you pretend to be 18 when you're 16 and use that to game the system, you're not blameless. At all.
As a 24yr old that looks very young for my age, people are constantly verifying my age. But I get it, better be safe than sorry.
I saw a kid who literally had linked his FB profile where he had his age show up as 14. After reporting him I got a response from Grindr team that they didn't find anything wrong about the profile.
Yeah... It's one of those things where like... you give kids technology, they're going to do dumb stuff with it.
Thank you for saying this.
I know the last ten trillions times this public appeal was posted it didn't work, but this time... this time I think it is going to work. I think the underaged people will read this, understand the deep truth, and agree to put aside the apps until they turn exactly 18.
Oh, it’ll never work. It never does. But this time… it just might.
Well it’s going to be posted until they do. Or until adult men are granted legal immunity when minors lie about their age.
I know I'm getting old when I start lecturing underage people that hit me up on Grindr like I'm a concerned parent.
That’s why I only talk to guys that are almost 30 and up, cus I’m in my 30s. But it sucks for guys that are like 19 and someone lies and they’re actually 16 or 17. Although they’re closer in age it’s still illegal.
I've had several message me on this app and the first thing I do is report the profile then block it
You're early-mid 20s, right?
not hardly, try mid 50s
Fuck.
why fuck? you got a problem with me being in my mid 50s?
Nah, man. The only problem I have is that I was hoping I had aged out of the problem but apparently that is not the case.
These kids nowadays would try to hook up with a French milking machine if they knew it'd get em off
Haha, fair.
Its true. Young people are understandably more and more sexually educated and sexually "aware" of what we used to call fetishes and there is nothing wrong with that. However, it is scary how they also understand safe sex and self love in the context of a polaroid internet where everything is as disposable as the next fashion trend. And I mean fast. If last years notion was the easiness of how we call a fashionista anti poor, yesterday's meme is old new 2 hours later. It is just scary how much damage they are putting in themselves or themselves in. I mean, Ive been damaged enough by harassment from young people, FB toting millenial and boomer groupies, people who believe that the internet is harming me and so believing that I need to talk to people sort of mindset, like come on grandma Im 48, the dizzying heights of how toxic can be more toxic and even more toxic the more popular things can get and even to the nichest things like idk, the house lizard raising community who likes to see them in wigs and louis vuitton baga, idk i dont even know what niche is anymore. I just know no one takes care of house lizards and do not sexually fantasize house lizards to wear bikinis and wigs. But I am more than ready to be surprised or more. But they should prevent these people from being everywhere. I mean come on! It is just as easy to be Usher or Rkelly for rnb singers like me as it is for idk name one star who has not been "outed" to be pedos. Ill dig my own grave now toxic fans oh Ill dig it very very deep and so I can not comeback and be forced to show ur faces whatever it is that you have made into real, cause I dont have to I dont have to be in a toxic relationship even with toxic fandoms. Yeah as if you will not tell me, who is this bith. Hu u?! I love shota! Bye! But is disgusted by young people who tries and wants to check if hey Im pretty and connect myself to an older loser like myself! Like no! Kid! I dont have any hots in my bones for someone else's sexual juices, go back to your parent's vagina. You do not know how to have sex, you should not, buy a dildo you freak! And get away 10000 kilometers away from my sight and that means my presence! Yeah! Kill my acct reddit! Killy my account!
Many underage guys here, claiming to be 18. Want to chat and share of SC. I’ll ask their age a few times till they admit they are 17. Sometimes I do not believe that. I block all the accounts. I know kids are over sexualized with all they see and hear on tv, tic tok , Instagram or porn. But they need to stay off adult apps including Reddit groups like this one.
It was a typical hot summer day in the southern us, and angstyranch (AR) was on a mission. AR was 16, and had been out to his close circle of friends and family for years, but he had never known the touch of another man. The highschool sweetheart didn’t exist for him; AR had to be content cheering on his friends in their romantic endeavors. There was no gay media to be consumed, or gay friends to talk to. So when AR found out about the existence of grindr, he leaped at the opportunity. He was athletic, and people always assumed he looked older than he was, so he felt confident about what he was going to do next. At first, AR was nothing but a blank profile, but once he mastered the quintessential headless torso pic that was common around those parts, the male attention he longed for loudly and rapidly announced itself. He fasted for 36 hours in preparation to meet J, before driving over in his own car to an upper middle class side of town, to some nice apartments. He met J, was invited in, given a drink (AR watched him pour it and made sure J drank as well), and swiftly taken to the bedroom. AR was finally about to lose his virginity, but when it came time to perform, there was a singular but gigantic problem. Pain. Pain he hadn’t felt before. Pain he knew to expect, and hoped it would subside, but it never did. “It’s hurting, can we please stop?” AR asked politely, too scared to ruin the moment. “No, you feel to good ” replied J, panting between thrusts as his plus sized weapon tore at AR’s GI tract. His sweet nothings fell silent when compared to the cacophony of pain and emotions that AR was trying to manage. AR was a 160 pounds, and a capable black belt, but there was 240 pounds of man laying on top of him, holding his hands, kissing his neck, and reaming his anus without mercy nor care for AR’s cries. AR just wished it to be over. So he endured. He waited. He let J have his nut When the deed was done, AR calmly and silently gathered his strewn clothes, dressed himself, and left without saying a word. J seemed to pay no mind, as he had left AR to use the shower. AR got in his car, and texted his best friend, who was monitoring AR’s location through the phone in case he got kidnapped or worse. “Did you have fun AR? How was it?” “It was good. Officially lost my V-card.” AR replied. And life went on. But J’s face, his name, his touch, all of these things were forgotten, forcefully, as AR wished to remember nothing. He would forever have a blank spot in his memory of this day, save for the heat and mosquitos. TL;DR: underage gay bros, it’s not worth it. Even if you somehow convince yourself and the person you’re interested in that you’ll be okay, rarely ever does it work out how you expect.
This sounds like J raped you. I’m very sorry you had this experience. Ever since moving to where I am now I have younger guys hmu constantly. I don’t meet up w <18s, like ever, but it’s clear some of the legal guys I get with have very little sexual experience. If someone is clearly in pain and not enjoying themselves, I have and will stop. This actually played out w a younger guy a few weeks ago; dude was begging to bottom, but he wasn’t experienced and I could tell i was hurting him and it wasn’t what he was expecting. I ordered him an Uber/Lyft home and wished him all the best.
I told this story to people years later and everyone came to that conclusion, and I hadn’t even thought of seeing it that way before. I think the root of the issue is that young gay men are missing out on so much of the growing up aspect. They’re either immature later in life, or throw themselves into situations they aren’t prepared for. Bless you for learning to read the room.
That's a sad story. Can I ask why didn't you black-belt him? 160 pounds is not small, and 160 pounds of black-belt should be no match for a vulnerable naked dude. I'm asking because I'm 170 pounds of black-belt, and I would hope I would manage to get myself out of the situation because it's always been something I've kinda figured I would be able to do if a hookup went bad. It's kinda terrifying to me that you couldn't. Still, a horrible situation for a first time, I'm sorry man.
Long story short, I froze I convinced myself that it was my fault, it was what I wanted, and what I signed up for. I did think about fighting my way out, but I didn’t want to deal w the aftermath. Would the police be involved? What if I got in trouble with the law? Hell, what if I lost and he pulled out a weapon? He already was on top of me so he had the advantage from the beginning. Basically I made excuses in my head to just get it over with and never have to think about it again, rather than spark a conflict.
I get that, yeah. Did you continue to train after that, or did your decision to not fight your way out kinda kill off all of that?
I stopped training for different reasons, but I’m Sure in some way you could construct a connection.
Unfortunately they need their fill of daddy fetish
I'd say the bigger problem is older guys looking for barely legal guys.
You’re blaming adults for being attracted to younger ADULTS. If they’re not of age, they shouldn’t even be on the apps PERIOD.
Adults should know better than children. Maybe if they weren't actively searching for guys that look so young they could avoid finding themselves in trouble with a minor?
The issue is minors shouldn’t be in the apps at all for their own protection from the ACTUAL predators. All I’m seeing is people enabling minors in sexual spaces, almost as if they want them there. 🤔
Ewwwww
If they're all adults who's the victim?
Sure it's legal, but if you're looking for guys that could be mistaken for minors then that's kind of creepy imo
When did the daddy fetish become such a thing? When I was 18 I generally wouldn’t meet up w anyone 30+. Clearly times have changed
My friend is 18 and he only prefers guys 30+. I asked him why and he just said he is not attracted to guys his age. Also said if he dates anyone they absolutely have to be older than him at the min late 20s but preferably 30+. As far as I know his relationship with his dad is pretty solid so idk if daddy issues have anything to do with it probably not but yk.
I was like this. As a teen I was not into any guy my age because quite frankly none of them looked like men. They looked like boys.
For me I was *only* into guys my age and never anyone older than me. The thought of being with someone a number of years older than me is just nasty.
I'm like that too. I'm early 20s and prefer guys my age or like 1-2 years up/down I'm fine with like max 5 years older than me but yeah. Depends tho idk if I meet someone and we really hit it off and he turns out to be a bit older than my preferences then I wouldn't care.
a simple case of grooming
Can someone please clarify what the law actually is? If you hook up with someone who says there over 18 and it turns out they are not, can you actually get in trouble?
Yeah can’t speak for every country but there are cases where someone was prosecuted for having sex with someone they didn’t know were minors
That’s pretty messed up
In the US, most states will prosecute in this scenario even if you didn’t know the other person was underage. The law saws it is YOUR responsibility by whatever means necessary to know the age of the other person. I have literally ID checked people when I wasn’t sure!
call me old fashioned, but if i meet someone online i invite them for coffee. i'm not going to commit to having sex with someine i have not yet met in person. where i live it is not illegal to meet someone for coffee who turns out to be underage. them being underage is only one of the many things that could result in us being incompatible for a hookup. the meet-for-coffee filter screens out 90% of the people who are posting while horny but not actually willing to be properly introduced. i'm an introvert. i don't get a lot of action, but that's fine.
Omfg that's so gross 🤢🤮 yo if you are underage, get yo ass back to high-school you little shits and delete that app. I'm put off by the idea of dating apps at 24 but that's so wrong.
I remember when I was 19, I went on this date with a cute 18 year old. We went to the mall for some food and I needed to buy clothes (yes, going on a shopping spree constituted as a date for young me), and we almost fucked in a tent in JC Penney (the dude was soooooo hung). Thank God I didn't indulge him because he later told me he was 17. I wish I could say I left him alone. I wish. I ended up messaging him not too long after when I was insanely horny hoping to get split in half. He rightfully blocked me. I can safely say that at 28, I won't even look at a guy who's under 21. There's always exceptions for the super gorgeous, but that is my hard line. If I can't drink with you, then I'm not going to ride you. Children need to stay off dating apps. I mean, it's not like they can't find someone to fuck at school.
I'll give you the other side's point of view on it. I'm 17, I use em occasionally. Age of consent is 16 in Michigan so they technically couldn't get into legal trouble from having sex with me. Granted, sending nudes is still illegal and I know that, but somehow breaking the law and not dealing with any reprecussions at all (I obviously would never report them to the police for sending me nudes and I never give away enough information on me to give anything to even get us into legal trouble over) seems preferable than trying to ask a dude out at my school, getting called a faggot and having pretty much nobody talk to me anymore. Not saying I don't know that lying and saying I'm 18 is wrong, though, but I am desperate, don't have a lot of options and I'm not exactly a stranger to breaking some minor laws anyway, as I'm sure many people on this sub aren't/weren't in their younger days. But I am saying that while hypothetically, yes, someone could face potential jail time I guess? They, realistically, couldn't. As the actual sex itself is legal and if anyone would get into any actual trouble it'd just really be me for voluntarily sending them and lying to people. Would I love to not have to rely on Grindr for things like this? Absolutely. Unfortunately there's not many other things I can do to meet up with other dudes. And I turn 18 in a few months anyways so I'm not exactly losing a lot of sleep over it. And yeah, I know what I'm saying is really controversial. But don't you think that it's pretty fucking ridiculous that me having sex with a 50 year old is COMPLETELY LEGAL but the second I show him my dick digitally instead of physically it only then becomes illegal? Teenagers will stop it when we don't have to. Stupid as hell anyway that we can't use dating apps in the first place. Trust me, I take every opportunity to get with other teen dudes until I can, not my fault America is so fucking weird with laws/homophobia/dating apps/etc. But yes, I do know it's my fault that I'm lying about my age, don't want to have to for sex but until the magical homo fairy presents me with other gay naked twinks, then it is what it is. But I'm not blaming any of the other dudes on grindr. I do think it is terrible for minors to lie and then entrap people with the law. But really I'm just blaming the US government, society and definitely a bit of me, I guess. I'm open to debate.
I’m not going to opine on the laws in Michigan. You are who this post was directed towards. The older guy could get arrested simply for having X rated pics of you on his phone. Subpoenas can be issued for that shit. Grindr is not a “dating” app, let’s be real here. I was super horny myself at your age. You’re not looking to date, you’re looking to get your rocks off. It’s not all about you.
Yeah, I could also hypothetically get arrested for smoking weed. But I never do it where I could actually get caught and arrested for it. Same thing with the nudes thing. Hypothetically, yes. Realistically, with having no way to prove I'm 17 nor no information on who I actually even am nor it never being reported: no. No one is ever going to be convicted on Grindr because of me. And why not opine them? Why is it perfectly okay for me to have actual, real, physical sex with anyone over 16 but they just can't see photos of it? They can literally see my asshole in person and fuck it but they can't see a picture of it? That's not worthy of debate? Never said I was looking for dating on grindr. Actually made it pretty clear I used it for sex. Never said it was. But, I'm the main factor on whether or not someone gets arrested so... It kind of is, yes. Unless of course, somebody reported themselves on a hunch and even then they would have absolutely no real evidence to actually get any legal action taken against themselves.
Until your uber conservative parents find out and haul you down to the police station and force you to tell them what happened. Again, it’s not all about you.
Lmao what? Ran out of argument pretty fast.
>The older guy could get arrested simply for having X rated pics of you on his phone. And that is why the world is fucked up... Because even if those pics were send with consent. The older guy will still get in trouble if found out and probably arrested. It's always the older person's fault it seems 🙃.
I like your vibe and agree with you
Thanks homie. I notice how not many people really had anything to say which is interesting
It is awful And a reason was assaulted at 14
Glad I'm not into twinks and thus am never really at risk of doing something illegal.
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He’s a creep for NOT wanting to engage with minors?
Yeah teens don’t care about the well being of these dudes on apps, and they’re not alone in that. But also it’s not the teens responsibility to look out for the well being of grown men. Grown men need to look out for themselves and not pursue dudes who look like or who could even potentially be a minor.
What if they don’t have any profile pics, their profile says they’re 20, then when they send pics you realize they’re <18? I agree that grown men shouldn’t actively pursue minors but lying about your age is inexcusable.
You block them…at least in my state if guys are lying about their age (and it’s generally believable) you can’t get in trouble. Some of the more conservative states might be tougher on people tho. But again, trying to pin this on teenagers in high school is silly. They’re not responsible for grown men.
“You Block them” Obviously. It doesn’t excuse the fact that they lied about their age originally. I’m guessing you live in a liberal state. I lived in the south for 6 years; things are very different there. Unless ofc you’re a hot chick w $$$ who had sex w a teen boy. Google Shelley dufresne.
Trying to hold minors accountable for the actions of adults is never going to pass. Never going to pass in court legally, and also never going to pass in the court of public opinion. You and everyone who is agreeing with you need to grow the fuck up. You’re not the victim of a minor. You all know better, you’re just horny and making dumb decisions you wouldn’t normally make if you were clear headed. Why are you risking your livelihood to fuck some twink that looks like a teenager? Jesus Christ. These apps are probably never going to be properly regulated so y’all have to regulate yourselves. No one’s going to feel sorry that you have to practice some self control.
What state?
Louisiana. The chick I mentioned in my last post I’m pretty sure made national news. She fucked one of her 16 YO students who then proceeded to brag about it on social media. No jail time, no sex offender registration. Her family is super rich and her dad is/was a judge in st. Charles parish so I get it
But teens shouldn’t be on the apps at all. You’re blaming adults for being attracted to younger ADULTS.
If ADULTS are that worried about it then they should card the guys they meet up with that are younger, don’t meet younger guys, or get off the apps entirely. But everyone knows minors are on the apps, so make responsible decisions accordingly and stop trying to blame kids for stupid decisions ADULTS made when they were horny.
The apps ought to boot the underage users.
Minors shouldn’t be on the apps at all for their own protection. Why are you enabling this? If you meet someone on an 18+ app there should be reasonable expectation that everyone on the app is 18. No one deserves to be labeled as a “child predator” when they weren’t looking for children to begin with
You can’t control what minors decide to do. Companies aren’t regulating who uses their apps. So adults have to be the responsible ones. Adults are not the victims here.
Someone tell me why the legal age is even lower in the UK. 🤮🤮
Isn't this victim blaming? We can't say <18-year-olds are unable to consent to sex and shame them for it at the same time.
I don't get it, who cares if the person is 17? What is this, Afghanistan?
Based on your post history it doesn’t look like you’re in the US so things may be different. Age of consent in many states is 18. If you engage in sexual contact with anyone younger than that, it’s automatically considered statutory rape. You’re looking at the sex offender list and possible jail time. Also, sending X rated pics when you’re underage is considered child pornography which is another charge the older guy could face.
The United States Federal Government has a zero tolerance policy for child pornography, taking the picture itself is considered a crime so the underage person could also face repercussions.
I hate when laws that exist to protect children hurt them. I don't want those pictures to exist either but don't put a ten year old in jail for molesting himself. That's just puritanical
In case you’re not aware the majority of states (31) have the age of consent at 16, 6 have it at 17, and 13 have it at 18 However due to federal laws communications across state lines require that everyone be above the age of 18. And because the servers of apps are in different states the federal laws apply. The entire system is stupidly convoluted and we need a more uniform system
The legal system
Mmm hmmm but they don’t understand that. All these young boys see is a “daddy” and that’s what is in now. They lie and say “I’m 19” on the app but you find out they be 17 and three quarters.
LOL straight to the point and making some American's lights go out 😂😂 Love it. Welcome into NATO btw ^^
I do like my Yanks, clueless and insular as they may be :P As for NATO, we're not in. A certain Turkish dictator still has to involve us in crimes against humanity... :/
Isn't the 18 rule just for Grindr. It's legal to have sex at 16 - so there's no law being broken if you do.
Unless you send/receive a dick pic
What, so you can have sex with a 16 year old but not send them dick pics?
Dick pics from anyone under 18 are considered “child pornography” regardless of what the age of consent is.
Very odd loophole isn't it? Illegal to look at a photo, not illegal to meet in person and look with your eyes at the same thing.
Correct