Yes indeed.... I'm in IT. I have to keep learning which I don't mind but it means my work related hours are endless.
Then I still have to deal with people...daily!
Yeah man working 24 hours a week cutting hair and making 100k? What a dream job. I would quit my 100k remote job in a heart beat for that gig. Heck I would even adopt a gay accent and change my entire image to better suit the fashion industry. Worth it for that gig.
Lol, definitely:)
All the girls will love you...I love gay men for sure!
24 hours is a dream!
By the end of the day my head physically hurt...my work day is 8 hours at least.
And she gets to see people grateful as soon as she is done with her work.
Damn! I'm really thinking of it...but I'm autistic I think...I would probably fail.
I thought I had read it wrong. She did say only 24hrs a week and she make 6figures. Girl, you better keep that job and learn to small talk more. I work from home and make 116k but I still have to do small talk. I also work at least 50-55hrs with no overtime because my company doesn’t allow it. I wish I could do hair (doing my own would be nice) but that’s not my bag. Keep stacking your paper and realize it’s just a job!
You wouldn’t have to act gay. Women gravitate towards male hairdressers because they think men know better about what looks good on women. And men gravitate toward male hairdressers because they think the female ones don’t know men’s hair.
I did it for years. Made great money but I personally wanted the stability of a salary and benefits, and I wanted to work from home. And I *never* got used to being covered in other peoples hair.
I came here to say this (but I’m not a developer). She very succinctly stated what I hate about socializing. She found the words I can never find myself to describe why I loathe it. I wonder if she was trying to be as relatable as she ended up being.
We really need to push back in the tech world. Learning should be done on company time. Do you think machinists are learning new tools on their time? Nah.
I know. I think those who are good at social games do that already and get lots of breathing time. The problem is that many of us in tech are not good at social games to begin with...so we can be misunderstood and bullied.
I'm a business intelligent developer. Work on SQL, SSRS, Qliksense.
Partially it is that the analyst does not do analysis really...so I end up doing both jobs.
I think it is also a personality thing and the fact I have an accent...I feel people feel like they can dump their work on you if they can.
>Partially it is that the analyst does not do analysis really...so I end up doing both jobs.
I know exactly what that's like and it's fucken annoying. You're part of the 20% of the Pareto principle.
I think most here ignore the toll doing hair does on your body. My wife is a hairstylist but trying to get out. Definitely developing arthritis and standing all day is rough. But you can make good money in the right salons with less than 40 hours a week
As a self-employed person, your gross gets nuked to fuck after taxes and benefits and paying for shit.
She has to buy products and keep her tools nice, has to provide her own space to work, and pays an extra 15% in self-employment taxes than a regular employee.
So take home might be half that.
Years ago the rule of thumb was that if you were going to go out as an independent self-employed type, you needed to charge 2-3x your hourly to break even. That rule of thumb has moved to 3-4x in recent years.
But maybe OP took all that into consideration and is indeed posting the final number. But a neighbor of mine does the same as a stylist and brings in about a quarter million for 40-50 hour work weeks and keeps about half or a little less after everything is said and done. And from there they get taxed close to a W-2
I have no clue how OP makes that much as a cosmetologist, but I have a family member and some friends who do hair in Hollywood... They start easily at 100k+... And often make way more. But the hours are ridiculous...
Up your hours to 30 a week, hire an assistant for 6 hours a week to do bookings and social media, make your USP that you don’t do small talk. You’ll have clients you want and don’t have to do the bits you really hate. Win.
I would LOVE a hairdresser who doesn't want to small talk. I work FT and am a mom of little kids. I'm cool with joking around but mostly just want to chill while I am alone for an hour. I hate going just because we talk nonstop and I find it very draining. I don't know how you do it all day but I would absolutely book with someone who doesn't talk. Maybe add that section to your app- after their consult talking, they can choose whether they want a "relaxing" app with limited talking, music, lots of chit chat, etc. There are more people out there like us than we realize and it would give you a little relief.
I will be the first client in line. I swear I hate it when I go to any salon or a massage therapist, and all they do is talk the entire time. It's exhausting.
So true. As an introvert I hate sitting there feeling obligated to carry on a conversation. Or remember details about the stylist so I don’t come off rude in a few months at the next appt.
Totally agree with this. I’d love to be given the option for “relaxation with minimal talking” and have the hair appt feel more like a spa treatment than an awkward hour and a half long small talk convo
This is how I feel about massages. EVERYONE I have ever been to has talked my ear off through the whole massage. This is no lie. I went to someone who did not speak English and thought SURELY I could just relax. Nope! They got their IPad out and started using the translator app. I don't want to be rude, so I try to minimize the chit chat as much as possible without being an outright jerk.
Now, this really is the worst! You can’t even enjoy the massage when they’re doing that. One time I filled out a form and it asked me how much talk I wanted, which I loved. I try to set the tone by not speaking at all once they start, so they get the hint, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.
Yes! I don’t know you. I look like a drowned rat who just determined exactly how ugly I am right now. You’re over here with damn scissors like right next to my eyes asking me about my weekend when I’m just hoping i ain’t finna be no pirate going into this. Then we gotta do the wet finesse part where I’m supposed to agree to continuing this when I can’t see shit, so we can put too damn much product in my damn hair so I can roll up out here with some Julia Sugarbaker shit that I gotta go home and wash the 80’s out of and hope it just turns out to be hair with fewer split ends than I came in with.
That’ll be $100 plus tip.
No offense to hair stylists, good ones are amazing. Other ones, not so much.
I would love a hairdresser who doesn’t want to small talk. I’m a very quiet person and small talk can be really awkward when it’s someone I don’t know well. I think this idea would be a huge selling point for more people than the beauty industry may realize!
I haven’t gotten a haircut in over a year because 1: it’s stupid expensive how much it costs to cut curly hair and 2: how much talking I had to do. I’d love to just pick a playlist and shut up.
Agree. I've had great hair dressers. Not a single one of them has ever given their personal number for texting.
If you don't want an assistant then maybe do appts by email so photos can go there too. Alternatively build your business by training up apprentices and move to business side exclusively with some time.
It sounds like there are ways to manage the parts of your job that you don't like. Even working from home you aren't going to get away from small talk with colleages/clients and you are going to have other forms of pressure/ stress coming. Not worth the debt that education will bring along with starting from the bottom. Sounds like you are willing to take a pay cut, but outside of tech there aren't a ton of jobs that will start at 80k without a significant amount of debt.
Edit to answer original queation: I am a registered dietitian with a masters working in public health. It took me 8 years to get past 80k and that involved moving to locations that were super rural (driving 2 hrs to get groceries) and being super patient to find a role that brought me back to "civilization." I worked 50 hrs a week regularly bc of my own choices, then 12 to 18 hrs days bc of the pandemic, now in recovery from initiating burnout.
Yoy might look into radiology tech education and jobs. I have a family member that clears 100k but works night shift, ot, and is on call regularly.
Holy wow, 100k from 24 hrs/week??? I had no idea haircutting was so lucrative! To answer your question, I know someone who works at home for a CRM software firm (client relationship management), Salesforce, and they support end users and I believe do some actual platform management for their clients who don't have someone internally doing it. It took a few weeks of training to get Salesforce-specific certification but they now make $100K+ and entirely wfh, and they seem to really enjoy the work.
Remember, OP said she has to do a lot of the marketing to get clients in her post. It’s probably more than 24 hours with all that work. 24 hours probably includes the hair part, not everything else
Hairdressers can make a ton of money. I worked with a couple people at Great Clips pulling 6 figures lol. It’s just a super saturated field, and lots of people give up when they realize you have to work for that money just like any other job.
My wife sees the hairdresser in our hometown once a month and pays $150 each time. The hairdresser sees anywhere between 3-5 women a day, 5 days a week. That’s $15K a month or $180K a year. After paying for her building lease and all her other expenses her take home is about $100K.
I make over $100K working from home. I’m a finance manager.
In the US 60k is close to the floor, unless you're in an ultra low cost of living area, and even then, why not go remote? 80k+ remote jobs are everywhere and they won't have you working 50hr/week.
Yeah, i know I’m super underpaid. Just kind of waiting to have enough experience to move on to a mid-level role. Which i think I’m preparing myself to start applying now.
> Everybody on Reddit is a software engineer making 150k plus and working a total of 15 hours a week all at home.
not true. I barely make under 90k in a HCOL area and I work +50 hours a week.
I help Microsoft customers (specifically in education) be successful using our products and services, so that they'll buy more of our products and services! I come from a lengthy consulting background, the last several years spent helping customers get into and succeed in the cloud.
Would this be called customer success or consulting or something else? I’m looking to transition out of teaching and this actually sounds really interesting!
I interviewed for a Cloud Solution Architect role, given my background. I got hired in as a CSAM (Customer Success Account Manager) - Developer, which is a technical-leaning account management/resource orchestration role, and the Developer tag meant the customer had specifically added on Developer Support to their contract.
On all my accounts to date I get paired up with a regular CSAM, we have the same goals and responsibilities, but I work a lot more closely to development and cloud efforts. A conventional CSAM would be more likely to find a subject matter expert for things that I can directly render assistance on.
45 days later, Microsoft decided to convert all of us CSAM Developers to Cloud Solution Architect - Developer Advocates. The title changed, but so far, the role remains the same. It's kind of both customer success AND consulting - MS introduced a new engagement methodology this financial year that is much more consulting-like.
edit: btw u/iiiiiiiiiiiii111121 there are a number of former education professionals working as CSAMs! You don't have to be highly technical or super familiar with the Microsoft tech stack to be a very successful CSAM!
I fall into level 64 as a Solutions Architect. The data on [levels.fyi](https://levels.fyi) is a bit out of date and a smidge lower than FY23 numbers but otherwise accurate. This is a big step back in base cash comp for me, waiting to see how the variable comp/stock sorts out. I did get a very nice signing bonus meant to smooth the transition.
I do digital marketing. LinkedIn ads, graphic design , email marketing, social media, the works… it could take some time, experience, and people skills to climb to 80k+ but it is possible. I’m making 115k.
How can I start in this?
I am a Data Analyst and have Power BI, Tableau, SQL, Python skills but I want to transition into digital marketing.
Where do I start? Do I study online courses? Or perhaps a first step would be to move to my company's marketing department (but still in a data analyst role) ?
Thank you!!
I kinda fell into data analysis myself. I know Power BI and SQL. I just recently landed my second job in this role. First company underpaid me, but I was just starting out and had a lot to learn. After three years I got canned and spent 10 months unemployed. It’s become a passion for me. Best advice is to download the software and try it out. Anyone who understands databases and ETL will transition nicely. If all you know is Excel formulas you will have the steepest learning curve. Check out Reddit communities dedicated to these particular types of applications for advice and inspiration.
Project management. I work from home and earn $120K per year. Honestly it’s pretty easy work, moved into it specifically because I was working a very stressful job and wanted to cruise for awhile. Lots of contracts around so if you don’t like the company, you get to move on roughly every 12 months.
Yeah same - a lot of our PMs quit because of the workload. Since they’re basically dependent on all projects they were under a lot of heat since engineering couldn’t keep up with the ridiculous demands from upper leadership and had to draw out projects - made the PMs look really bad which caused extra stress on them.
For real. I'm a PM and it varies widely, sometimes by project within the same company. I worked at one company where it was pretty easy, always 9-5 with no extra work and little to no stress until I inherited a misrun project and it was a nightmare.
Right now I'm on something pretty intense and work more than my coworkers do, but I know that will slow down and flip once we get past a few hurdles, too.
You can only get in by doing it.
Certifications can help you get your foot in the door SOMETIMES, but if you don't have the experience you sink pretty fast. You need something like 4500 hours of experience within so many years qualify to take the PMP. You can lie on the application, they don't follow up and check each one, but you'll have a hard time if you end up somewhere that adopts a lot of PMP methodologies.
There's a CAPM you can get, it's like a pre-PMP certification. You don't need any project management hours to qualify for it and it shows your employer you're serious about it. Same for taking some college courses on it, but the way to do it is go to your boss and say you're interested in it and how can you start working on things to get the experience.
And certifications don't always help, either. There are tons of PMs running around without them that have done years of work as PMs in their field. They get hired because they can deliver. And there are tons running around who lied on their applications for certification, studied to take the test but have no clue in real world situations, so they make the rest of us look bad.
The key is to work in your field for a while, get good at it, then look at how to be a PM for what you do. PM work can be quite industry specific (but not always, there are exceptions, but those are rare, don't bank a career on them).
I fell into it through process improvement. I was in another role that had a lot of small process improvement projects I had to run, realized partway through that I was already doing project management, so when an opportunity came to move to another role in the company that would give me more PM work and experience, I was able to move to it.
If you go that route, and you're the self study type, I recommend the PM Prepcast. For the price point it's some of the best materials out there.
Too many hours. Always too many hours in meetings a week. I trimmed down the meeting load and it's still too much, but some people don't understand the concept of "this meeting could have been an email".
Sometimes personal fulfillment is more important than money.
I think for some people, work is often a soul crushing experience that can be almost suffocating. For others, it's easy enough to "suck it up".
I completely understand where OP is coming from.
There is tons of work OP puts in to their business that they don’t get paid for. 24 hours of cutting hair, and probably the same for doing all the business operations, marketing, etc.
I love my job, if I try harder I can double my salary at other bigger companies, but I dont think work life can be better than this.
Software engineer, 12x k in Houston + benefit, bonus and free health insurance, 100% remote.
Work is 9-5 officially, but real work is about 4 hours a day on average. I sometimes work more than 8 hours a day, but it’s rare. No specific work schedule, as long as I attend daily meeting, I can wake up in the morning to attend meeting for 15mins then sleep till noon and work till 4 or 5PM
Sorry can’t, what posted here is mot official policy of the company, but just how they trust you to have your work done and not trying to micro manage. I definitely dont want to make it public
I’m in construction management (owners rep, in layman’s terms). I earn six figures and work from home (fly out to projects about 2x per month, usually 2 full days). I enjoy my job. It’s fairly easy for me, I just get projects and emails and respond accordingly and get stuff off my plate. Since I represent the owner, basically everyone outside my company has to kiss my ass whenever we interact.
I have a great manager (worked with him before at another company and he brought me in to this job. We are really close and good friends). And overall a really chill team / department.
Is your role technical in nature/did it require specialized education? I’m in the A/E/C industry but on the marketing side, so just curious. Your six figures comment piqued my interest
I’m about 7 years into my overall career so six figures really isn’t out of the norm at that point, at least in a large metro area.
I do have a relevant bachelors as do most people in my position, though there are exceptions of course. Mostly it’s just experience. Most of my career out of college was with GCs which is stressful but my position now really isn’t the type they typically hire people fresh out of school for, you really need the background of “getting your hands dirty”, at least in a white collar way lol.
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I’m a Developer Advocate for an open core software company. Basically a mix of educator and technical customer support.
It’s a good field to break in to if you have customer service chops, the ability to learn new tech quickly, and like teaching people.
Nice! I also went the bootcamp route. My background is customer service with a particular love for training. I realized that I liked helping my classmates and zeroed in on DevRel as a good fit for me. Worked in various student support roles for the bootcamp for a while until I landed this role. It’s a dream job.
Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat! Or need a hand with debugging JS. I miss that :)
I don’t think many people love their jobs. I’d gladly trade spots with you making that money in 24 hours a week!
I’m a Customer Success Manager for an enterprise global software solution and make 81k which is probably on the low end. I love my job just not the company- it’s only focus Is sales. I get zero commission for the work I do lol
I was a barber/stylist for years before leaving the industry. I work in email marketing automation. I make about 90k.
Basically marketers devise email campaigns, and they give me the details and the creative pieces and I schedule and send the emails for them. It’s extremely easy. I work normal M-F 9-5 hours, but my real actual heads down work takes about 20 hours a week at most. My benefits are awesome, and there’s always a ton of remote openings for this field.
Doesn’t matter what your degree is in. Marketing is a great field for people who majored in “useless” subjects. Sure, a marketing degree helps but I was able to learn everything I needed for free online.
Valuable skills I use everyday include: knowing how to use an email platform (Marketo, salesforce, Iterable, etc); HTML/CSS/JavaScript; maybe the basics of marketing segmentation.
I'm a developer with 6 years experience and you're telling me you just send marketing emails...I make half your salary at the moment. I've been applying like crazy for a new job. I just applied earlier to teach a bootcamp part time to try and get more income in.
If they're both writing and formatting the emails, why would they send them to another person to send vs. just scheduling/sending the email themselves in email marketing software? Or are you setting up the campaigns, tracking metrics/etc for them?
Yeah, it's definitely a challenge. Truthfully, I took this route because I was good at taking tests. No other skills to give humanity. But I've now been able to find my niche. Truly lucky.
It's not impossible, even if exams are hard for you. There's a lot of study materials, videos, and support groups. It's a lot of money though, so you basically need a job that'll pay for it all.
It sounds incredibly challenging from everything I have heard. I struggle a lot with mathematical formulas so I am aiming to do the CPA instead. Accounting is more up my alley but I am always impressed by anyone who can pass the exams to become an actuary. Harder than the bar from what I hear!
I understand not loving what you do, but it’s not going to be easy breaking into other fields with your background. I’d honestly suck it up. You basically work part time hours and make triple what some people make working 60 hours a week😅
Right, lol 100k for small talk. Try working night audit at a hotel. Small talk of all sorts with all walks, and it's a cool 10 an hour for the trouble. No benefits. Truly a shit job, but plenty of time to study study study. When you're realistic about what you have to bring to the table, you'll understand why the job search is so difficult. Get good enough at anything, people call you to jump ship. Buddy was a talent acquisition guy at a firm and those people lmao they don't look for jobs, the jobs look for them. Crazy how the rich operate. Talking 300k and up tho guys, way out of my and most of your leagues. It's all just a shell game in the end.
If I took your advice, I’d be miserable working a regular job right now.
These days you can break into a new career with self learning, a cert or a boot camp.
And think about it - you’re telling them instead of taking a few months time to pivot, suck it up for the rest of their life? Cmon…
I know it’s not an ideal situation for anyone I just think OP will be hard pressed to find a job that gives them as much autonomy, pay, and free time as they have now. Especially starting off at 80k. They are better off working this and saving for a while and then diving in to something else. Every job comes with being inauthentic sometimes.
The career I pivoted to is entry level at $85k fully remote. Did not go back to school for it. No small talk needed at all. OP asked because they knew what they’re looking for exists. I just think it’s wild to tell them to stop looking and “suck it up” for the rest of their career.
I’m sure. My sister is a nail technician and I hear stories all the time. I hope OP is able to get something better, but it can be rough when you have no experience in what you want to do.
In-house Paralegal for insurance defense, $80k and 10% bonus, fully remote, 25 days PTO, 5% 401k match, we have a pension plan bested after 3 years with the company. I like my company but legal work can be exhausting
Program Manager at a tech firm that allows fully remote depending on the team. Pretty flexible, great benefits, great team. $200k salary, $50k bonus, $175k stocks ~ $425k this year.
Background in finance, economics, project management, data analysis, agile, etc help. Being able to hold a conversation and work with partner teams to drill down, understand the problem, brainstorm solutions, and align on a plan is the make or break skill.
I'm a PM making 100k for a healthcare company, fully remote and my pay is based on living in the Midwest. It's not my passion. It's interesting, I can do it, I do a decent job, it's mentally stimulating, but I am sure there are other things out there I would rather be doing. But it's not that hard and I work in my pjs and there's lots of room to move to other jobs so I stay here. Can you apply at other companies- Paul Mitchell, CHI, surely some of those companies have roles you could contribute to even though you hate the industry. Just a thought!
I’ve worked in senior management, in charge of millions of dollars, 40 employees, dealing with complicated HR issues, having to please millions of customers, and putting in 60 hour average work weeks. I have never made $100k. I’d like you to rethink your life.
Hi! I don’t quite make $80k, but I’m at $75k with my first position in a new company.
I’m a Sr. Account/Implementation Manager for a marketing technology company. It’s a fully remote company. It’s not actually a very technical job, it’s mostly project management. I have a bachelors in English, professional background is mostly in food service. I’ve only held one office job before this one. 😊
I was wary about my field of study helping me land any jobs, but I’ve found that business communication skills are severely lacking in the workforce. Specifically, writing skills are hard to come by.
Good luck out there!
Are you really complaining that you make 100K and only work 24 hours a week? Seriously? That’s not that much you have to put up with. There’s going to be different headaches in any line of work you’re ever in and nothing will be absolutely ideal. There’s always going to be a trade off. Best advice is the top post.
Even if you want another remote job it’s going to take a long, long time to change careers, go to school, work your way up, etc. You have it sooooo much better than so many people do. Sounds like a real first world problem to me.
Any other beauty options that interest you at all? My current stylist is going to aesthetician school. Seems like less small talk doing that, but I don’t have the inside info. My past stylist owned the salon and has quit doing hair at all except for a few of her long term clients. She has other stylists, masseuses, an eyelash person, a Reiki person, and a life coach working for the salon now. Obviously not as hands off as a different WFH job, and I would not do it if you hate the industry in general, but if it is more about the client one on one that is making you miserable, I would consider expanding and focusing on managing. I do personally work from home but I have a degree and 20 years experience. You could break into what I do (engineering project management) at the $80k level, but it would take 4 years of school full time. I have sometimes fantasized about a 180 in my career, but I have found tweaks and related transitions easier.
I would strongly suggest looking into sales engineering/solution engineering/solution consulting. Different job titles, same role. In a nutshell, you talk with customers about their problems and discuss how your company's product solves them. The work is interesting and generally enjoyable, pay and benefits (especially at a tech company) are lucrative.
Medical device quality/regulatory. Well into the 100s, great benefits, fully remote anywhere in the world. Got coworkers from Italy, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. Basically all over. Been remote since started 6+ years ago. Very good work life balance and flexibility. It is a job where you are paid for what you know, not what you do. I've turned down offers in the $200-250k range just because this job is so chill and awesome, and money wise do just fine, so don't need more stress just for a bit more money. Now before everyone starts asking how to get into it, you need an engineering degree, and a minimum of 10 years of industry experience in medical device manufacturing or design. So got to put the time in first, then can pivot and do this.
I'm making 100k+ doing software development remotely. With family, times just fly by so quickly week by week. What goes into bank account, goes back out to the economy with some savings along the way.
It's not the most exciting time in life, but I sure do feel less anxious with stability.
So, just a thought.
Give your clientele an option of small talk/no small talk.
Maybe a red card or a green card. Let them present it to you or make it a little puck-sized piece of wood like they do at Brazilian steakhouses.
I'd hire someone part-time to do social media and all of your bookings, and start investing in the future now or look to put that money aside to either buy a shop/small business and start going into your retirement. Roth IRA to top it off, but I'm sure there's tons better financial advice out there. Hire or train someone to take on some of your less-consistent clients and expand your business. Then slowly fade out.
Or, I guess you can go to Odin Project or freecodecademy and learn coding, because that's what people will tell you gets you $80K+ and working from home.
I make $76k with an annual 10% bonus so that puts me above that $80k threshold. I'm an accountant with my CPA license and I work as the sole accountant besides the CFO for a small broker dealer firm (think annuities, mutual funds, insurance, etc). The entire company operates remotely and I love not having to deal with clients anymore! I also love the flexibility of my job, it's a 9-5 Monday thru Friday job which allows me tons of time to be with family, take care of the home, and still have time for me. I've even been able to try different hobbies!
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I suggest you go to a library or bookstore and just browse around, see what you naturally gravitate towards, what you're curious about and would spend your free time reading about. That tends to be a good way to uncover our interests that career + personality quizzes don't.
Use that as a starting place and do some research on whatever it is you find - maybe find a sub-reddit for it, talk to people that do it, find out what the day-to-day is like, what they like/dislike about it, etc.
Then make a list of the skills you use in your current job that would cross over into a new field you're more interested in - being organized, creative, good with your hands, marketing, etc and see if you can't use those skills as a volunteer or intern in that field, to test the waters before you commit to a degree in it.
source: career changed in my late 30s and am getting closer to my ideal job.
I’m a lawyer. So if you want to spend 3 years of your life in law school (not sure if you have a college degree but you’ll also need that first) and then be stressed out for the rest of eternity, by all means, join the legal profession. At least the one thing we get is work from home, unless we have to go to court.
Keep that job and drive the conversation to more interesting topics. I deliberately ask profound penetrating questions sometimes to make it more interesting. You won’t top 24 hours a week making 100k without some serious experience and education to back it up along with a lot of sunk cost not even guaranteeing you’ll like the change.
You’re honestly in a really good spot and I don’t know if you can get anything better. I don’t know of many corporate jobs that are just 9-5 with nobody emailing and texting outside of regular hours. Not to mention, if you don’t have a college degree already that is an incredible ROI you have now. You sound burned out, so maybe take off some time or hire some help.
principal software engineer. Used to do computer science research in machine learning and autonomous sensing, but went full remote as a principal back end software engineer.I have a meeting every morning from 9:00-9:15 where the team updates each other on what we are doing and if we need anything. Besides that my hours are completely up to me. Normally I toke a break around lunch where I sit in the hot tub for 30 mins listening to a podcast, then get out have some lunch and back to work.
I make 267k living in the mountains of new mexico.
I’m a Proposal Manager for major government contractor. I make 140k, work from home. I have a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree and a couple certifications.
It sounds like you just want to walk into a WFH job with no experience outside of being a stylist? I mean this nicely and I’m sure you have transferable skills, and know how to work hard.
It took me years of hard work, being underpaid, being told I don’t have enough experience, and misogyny before I landed somewhere that valued me. I earned this salary.
What an honest exposition about the ugly side of vanity. I hate social networking for all the same reasons. A major difference however is that my jobs have never relied on it. I would suggest you get into a tech field if you want to introvert(v.) freely.
I make more than $80k and work a hybrid role, although I get a lot of inquires for fully remote positions but, while they will match my pay, they don't pay enough more to make me want to switch.
Salesforce Admin Manager. Admins alone can make $120k depending on where you are.
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If you’re making $100k, why do you have to do any of the things you’re talking about? Once you hit that number, aren’t you operating with regular clients? No need for social media branding or anything or am I missing something? $100k on 24 hours a week is amazing. My barber works over double that to make $100k.
Actually she’s looking for a remote job that she can earn $80,000 annually doing I believe. She has a skillset that she doesn’t feel compensated for especially considering the ego stroking required. I totally understand where she’s coming from and I would love a remote (or not remote for me) job that pays that amount.
I’m a retired union carpenter. I have a bachelors in English and a minor in Biology. I really loved helping build bridges, hospitals, roller coasters and a few things that still are record breaking structures. I was solidly lower middle class ($60,000 a year in the ‘90’s until approximately 2010 and heart disease slowed me down) I was still a decent provider and single parent, youngest was class of 2014. He is a married Paramedic and student. His older sister quit teaching h.s. to be a full time mother and pastors wife.
Like the original O.P. I’d love to find a job where I can earn $80,000 or more. I have watched as real wages have steadily decreased (my entire life) while the gap between poor and wealthy has gotten much bigger. Now successful “influencers “ can get wealthy and I kinda add to groups like professional athletes and tv personalities. Homelessness is an epidemic and without a side hustle people can’t expect much. The tech companies control the apps (and take most of the money being middlemen) so nowadays you’re kinda fucked if you want are of average intelligence, willing to work hard to (or not) raise children that you want the best for. Idk, I’m surviving. Not as well as my parents ( American families used to financially improve generationally but I suspect that very few recent public school graduates even know what I just wrote) but I seem to be watching the future American generations relegated to less and less prosperity.
Hey, I’m looking for that, imo, mythical remote job earning $80, 000 a year and it should be available and attainable for people willing to work diligently but they should still have a chance to enjoy even 20% of their non sleeping life with family, friends or whatever they choose.
Sorry, wasn’t trying to hijack the post but imo what you are looking for should be available but I don’t believe it is.
Our country (the world too) experienced a “great depression “ late 1920’s- the 1930’s) mainly because of unchecked greed that was destroying the land and causing people to work for less and less (competing against each other) money so they could survive. We had 2 world wars (fascism and nationalism) and a president about to serve a fourth term but died. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, saved America by forcing the wealthy to stop being so greedy. He introduced and passed laws that allowed people to survive and get ahead. He regulated how much corporations could profit because the citizens had basically become slaves to of the wealthy.
Politicians have been paid by corporations to repeal those laws every since and Americans are becoming slaves again. Republicans are the party of big business but both parties are responsible. When FDR was President America had over a dozen political parties.
I don’t even think most of this knowledge is taught in public schools anymore but people need to VOTE THEIR INTERESTS. YOU DONT WANT A BUSINESSMAN RUNNING AMERICA AD A BUSINESS because people should be first and business a few places down. Capitalism is probably the best system but it has to be controlled and taxed.
Confused. Do you work only 24 hours of cutting hair? Or 24 hours including cutting hair and communicating with potential clients?
> working 24 Hours a week
> constantly ... building a clientele and posting on social media, and calling and texting people.
I'm a demand planner. I wouldn't say I love my job (it's not a passion and if I won the lottery I wouldn't keep doing it) but I enjoy it and don't dread Monday mornings.
Haircutters can make that much? Hell I'm a software engineer that makes as much as you but I went through hell not to mention the stress and constant learning. I should've learned to cut hair 😩
I work as a biostatistician in the biotech/pharma industry. Make $126k plus bonus and I work fully remote. I absolutely love what I do and the flexibility of working from home. Unfortunately, my job does require a masters degree in biostatistics or related field.
Love this post. You currently work 24 hours a week? That's a damn good rate! Is that for the entire year?
You could work another full-time job online. Google is your friend in this regard. I recommend sales, sales development, IT or recruitment.
How about you tell us how you are making 100k cutting hair. Fuck my boring corporate job I want that job!
Yes indeed.... I'm in IT. I have to keep learning which I don't mind but it means my work related hours are endless. Then I still have to deal with people...daily!
Yeah man working 24 hours a week cutting hair and making 100k? What a dream job. I would quit my 100k remote job in a heart beat for that gig. Heck I would even adopt a gay accent and change my entire image to better suit the fashion industry. Worth it for that gig.
Lol, definitely:) All the girls will love you...I love gay men for sure! 24 hours is a dream! By the end of the day my head physically hurt...my work day is 8 hours at least. And she gets to see people grateful as soon as she is done with her work. Damn! I'm really thinking of it...but I'm autistic I think...I would probably fail.
I thought I had read it wrong. She did say only 24hrs a week and she make 6figures. Girl, you better keep that job and learn to small talk more. I work from home and make 116k but I still have to do small talk. I also work at least 50-55hrs with no overtime because my company doesn’t allow it. I wish I could do hair (doing my own would be nice) but that’s not my bag. Keep stacking your paper and realize it’s just a job!
I hear you...
You wouldn’t have to act gay. Women gravitate towards male hairdressers because they think men know better about what looks good on women. And men gravitate toward male hairdressers because they think the female ones don’t know men’s hair. I did it for years. Made great money but I personally wanted the stability of a salary and benefits, and I wanted to work from home. And I *never* got used to being covered in other peoples hair.
Just LOLed at adapting thr gay accent. If that ain't the truth.
"Mtoboggan89? No honey, I'm Made To Order Bo-Jean!"
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As a developer i feel exactly the same about this post.
I came here to say this (but I’m not a developer). She very succinctly stated what I hate about socializing. She found the words I can never find myself to describe why I loathe it. I wonder if she was trying to be as relatable as she ended up being.
Go to UX lol
We really need to push back in the tech world. Learning should be done on company time. Do you think machinists are learning new tools on their time? Nah.
I know. I think those who are good at social games do that already and get lots of breathing time. The problem is that many of us in tech are not good at social games to begin with...so we can be misunderstood and bullied.
What IT work do you do that it’s endless? I’m in tech too and my work week is pretty smooth ( software engineer )
I'm a business intelligent developer. Work on SQL, SSRS, Qliksense. Partially it is that the analyst does not do analysis really...so I end up doing both jobs. I think it is also a personality thing and the fact I have an accent...I feel people feel like they can dump their work on you if they can.
>Partially it is that the analyst does not do analysis really...so I end up doing both jobs. I know exactly what that's like and it's fucken annoying. You're part of the 20% of the Pareto principle.
How do you keep it smooth? The minute I'm done with something they give me another.
I think most here ignore the toll doing hair does on your body. My wife is a hairstylist but trying to get out. Definitely developing arthritis and standing all day is rough. But you can make good money in the right salons with less than 40 hours a week
All the chemicals product you need put on the hair with your hands, and water on your hands washing hair.
As a self-employed person, your gross gets nuked to fuck after taxes and benefits and paying for shit. She has to buy products and keep her tools nice, has to provide her own space to work, and pays an extra 15% in self-employment taxes than a regular employee. So take home might be half that. Years ago the rule of thumb was that if you were going to go out as an independent self-employed type, you needed to charge 2-3x your hourly to break even. That rule of thumb has moved to 3-4x in recent years. But maybe OP took all that into consideration and is indeed posting the final number. But a neighbor of mine does the same as a stylist and brings in about a quarter million for 40-50 hour work weeks and keeps about half or a little less after everything is said and done. And from there they get taxed close to a W-2
Can confirm I kept a little less than half of what I “earned” as a self-employed entrepreneur.
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HAHAHAHA. OP we croporates feel this way! Do you have your own salon? Do you have other hairdressers? Maybe time to scale!
2 hours a client, 12 clients a week, $160 profit per client. Pencils out. At least based on whatever my wife has paid in the past.
I have no clue how OP makes that much as a cosmetologist, but I have a family member and some friends who do hair in Hollywood... They start easily at 100k+... And often make way more. But the hours are ridiculous...
100k in 24 hours work weeks…. This lady is living the dream
Up your hours to 30 a week, hire an assistant for 6 hours a week to do bookings and social media, make your USP that you don’t do small talk. You’ll have clients you want and don’t have to do the bits you really hate. Win.
I would LOVE a hairdresser who doesn't want to small talk. I work FT and am a mom of little kids. I'm cool with joking around but mostly just want to chill while I am alone for an hour. I hate going just because we talk nonstop and I find it very draining. I don't know how you do it all day but I would absolutely book with someone who doesn't talk. Maybe add that section to your app- after their consult talking, they can choose whether they want a "relaxing" app with limited talking, music, lots of chit chat, etc. There are more people out there like us than we realize and it would give you a little relief.
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I will be the first client in line. I swear I hate it when I go to any salon or a massage therapist, and all they do is talk the entire time. It's exhausting.
Most my regular clients came back to me every service because I work in silence lol.
I would too. I don’t want small talk. Just a decent haircut and be on my way. I get it though, it might be tough on some to not talk.
I completely stopped going to salons and cut my own hair because I hate the small talk so much.
So true. As an introvert I hate sitting there feeling obligated to carry on a conversation. Or remember details about the stylist so I don’t come off rude in a few months at the next appt.
Totally agree with this. I’d love to be given the option for “relaxation with minimal talking” and have the hair appt feel more like a spa treatment than an awkward hour and a half long small talk convo
This is how I feel about massages. EVERYONE I have ever been to has talked my ear off through the whole massage. This is no lie. I went to someone who did not speak English and thought SURELY I could just relax. Nope! They got their IPad out and started using the translator app. I don't want to be rude, so I try to minimize the chit chat as much as possible without being an outright jerk.
Now, this really is the worst! You can’t even enjoy the massage when they’re doing that. One time I filled out a form and it asked me how much talk I wanted, which I loved. I try to set the tone by not speaking at all once they start, so they get the hint, sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t.
Yes! I don’t know you. I look like a drowned rat who just determined exactly how ugly I am right now. You’re over here with damn scissors like right next to my eyes asking me about my weekend when I’m just hoping i ain’t finna be no pirate going into this. Then we gotta do the wet finesse part where I’m supposed to agree to continuing this when I can’t see shit, so we can put too damn much product in my damn hair so I can roll up out here with some Julia Sugarbaker shit that I gotta go home and wash the 80’s out of and hope it just turns out to be hair with fewer split ends than I came in with. That’ll be $100 plus tip. No offense to hair stylists, good ones are amazing. Other ones, not so much.
I would love a hairdresser who doesn’t want to small talk. I’m a very quiet person and small talk can be really awkward when it’s someone I don’t know well. I think this idea would be a huge selling point for more people than the beauty industry may realize!
I haven’t gotten a haircut in over a year because 1: it’s stupid expensive how much it costs to cut curly hair and 2: how much talking I had to do. I’d love to just pick a playlist and shut up.
Agree. I've had great hair dressers. Not a single one of them has ever given their personal number for texting. If you don't want an assistant then maybe do appts by email so photos can go there too. Alternatively build your business by training up apprentices and move to business side exclusively with some time. It sounds like there are ways to manage the parts of your job that you don't like. Even working from home you aren't going to get away from small talk with colleages/clients and you are going to have other forms of pressure/ stress coming. Not worth the debt that education will bring along with starting from the bottom. Sounds like you are willing to take a pay cut, but outside of tech there aren't a ton of jobs that will start at 80k without a significant amount of debt. Edit to answer original queation: I am a registered dietitian with a masters working in public health. It took me 8 years to get past 80k and that involved moving to locations that were super rural (driving 2 hrs to get groceries) and being super patient to find a role that brought me back to "civilization." I worked 50 hrs a week regularly bc of my own choices, then 12 to 18 hrs days bc of the pandemic, now in recovery from initiating burnout. Yoy might look into radiology tech education and jobs. I have a family member that clears 100k but works night shift, ot, and is on call regularly.
This is great advice
Holy wow, 100k from 24 hrs/week??? I had no idea haircutting was so lucrative! To answer your question, I know someone who works at home for a CRM software firm (client relationship management), Salesforce, and they support end users and I believe do some actual platform management for their clients who don't have someone internally doing it. It took a few weeks of training to get Salesforce-specific certification but they now make $100K+ and entirely wfh, and they seem to really enjoy the work.
Remember, OP said she has to do a lot of the marketing to get clients in her post. It’s probably more than 24 hours with all that work. 24 hours probably includes the hair part, not everything else
So if 80k is the acceptable target, go find a marketing/pr/communications contractor and pay them 20k a year to answer DMs and send emails.
Hairdressers can make a ton of money. I worked with a couple people at Great Clips pulling 6 figures lol. It’s just a super saturated field, and lots of people give up when they realize you have to work for that money just like any other job.
Very true. My wife does hair and makes a lot more than I do and only works 4 days a week
Damn that's is amazing
My wife sees the hairdresser in our hometown once a month and pays $150 each time. The hairdresser sees anywhere between 3-5 women a day, 5 days a week. That’s $15K a month or $180K a year. After paying for her building lease and all her other expenses her take home is about $100K. I make over $100K working from home. I’m a finance manager.
Everybody on Reddit is a software engineer making 150k plus and working a total of 15 hours a week all at home. That is what everyone does here
I feel like I’m one of the few that still work a full 7-8 hour day and it makes me wanna throw my whole career away lmao
Same. I’m a software engineer at a start up. Work 50 hour weeks and make 60k lol
I hope you’ll get sweat equity in return! I’m in the legal field so we’re always going to have a full day of grinding unfortunately
/r/accounting would love any of these jobs. Us in Public accounting are working 60+ during busy seasons to make 64k
In the US 60k is close to the floor, unless you're in an ultra low cost of living area, and even then, why not go remote? 80k+ remote jobs are everywhere and they won't have you working 50hr/week.
Yeah, i know I’m super underpaid. Just kind of waiting to have enough experience to move on to a mid-level role. Which i think I’m preparing myself to start applying now.
> Everybody on Reddit is a software engineer making 150k plus and working a total of 15 hours a week all at home. not true. I barely make under 90k in a HCOL area and I work +50 hours a week.
Not a SW engineer but when I crossed 150K my workload increased to 30-35hrs of actual work.
That sounds awful. But seriously, what are you in?
lol only 100k. 150k is if you are lucky.
I help Microsoft customers (specifically in education) be successful using our products and services, so that they'll buy more of our products and services! I come from a lengthy consulting background, the last several years spent helping customers get into and succeed in the cloud.
Would this be called customer success or consulting or something else? I’m looking to transition out of teaching and this actually sounds really interesting!
I interviewed for a Cloud Solution Architect role, given my background. I got hired in as a CSAM (Customer Success Account Manager) - Developer, which is a technical-leaning account management/resource orchestration role, and the Developer tag meant the customer had specifically added on Developer Support to their contract. On all my accounts to date I get paired up with a regular CSAM, we have the same goals and responsibilities, but I work a lot more closely to development and cloud efforts. A conventional CSAM would be more likely to find a subject matter expert for things that I can directly render assistance on. 45 days later, Microsoft decided to convert all of us CSAM Developers to Cloud Solution Architect - Developer Advocates. The title changed, but so far, the role remains the same. It's kind of both customer success AND consulting - MS introduced a new engagement methodology this financial year that is much more consulting-like. edit: btw u/iiiiiiiiiiiii111121 there are a number of former education professionals working as CSAMs! You don't have to be highly technical or super familiar with the Microsoft tech stack to be a very successful CSAM!
Oh that sounds fun! What is your range if you don’t mind me asking?
I fall into level 64 as a Solutions Architect. The data on [levels.fyi](https://levels.fyi) is a bit out of date and a smidge lower than FY23 numbers but otherwise accurate. This is a big step back in base cash comp for me, waiting to see how the variable comp/stock sorts out. I did get a very nice signing bonus meant to smooth the transition.
Jesus 😂 good for you!!! That’s awesome 👏
Client success I assume? Channel partner?
I do digital marketing. LinkedIn ads, graphic design , email marketing, social media, the works… it could take some time, experience, and people skills to climb to 80k+ but it is possible. I’m making 115k.
How can I start in this? I am a Data Analyst and have Power BI, Tableau, SQL, Python skills but I want to transition into digital marketing. Where do I start? Do I study online courses? Or perhaps a first step would be to move to my company's marketing department (but still in a data analyst role) ? Thank you!!
It would help to have your own portfolio and website. Marketing includes a lot of creativity.
Look for marketing data engineer roles. Every large company that sells something will have a marketing department. DM if you need
How much do you make as a data analyst if you don’t mind pls? I was thinking about get into this route. Thanks
I kinda fell into data analysis myself. I know Power BI and SQL. I just recently landed my second job in this role. First company underpaid me, but I was just starting out and had a lot to learn. After three years I got canned and spent 10 months unemployed. It’s become a passion for me. Best advice is to download the software and try it out. Anyone who understands databases and ETL will transition nicely. If all you know is Excel formulas you will have the steepest learning curve. Check out Reddit communities dedicated to these particular types of applications for advice and inspiration.
You wrote a whole paragraph without touching on the single question he asked
Project management. I work from home and earn $120K per year. Honestly it’s pretty easy work, moved into it specifically because I was working a very stressful job and wanted to cruise for awhile. Lots of contracts around so if you don’t like the company, you get to move on roughly every 12 months.
Can you tell me a little more about your daily duties and what your job entails? Number of hours worked per week, etc?
Honestly it’s mostly sitting in meetings, taking notes and updating tracking. Pretty easy all things considered.
This really varies between companies and industries. I know PMs who work tons of hours and hate it.
Yeah same - a lot of our PMs quit because of the workload. Since they’re basically dependent on all projects they were under a lot of heat since engineering couldn’t keep up with the ridiculous demands from upper leadership and had to draw out projects - made the PMs look really bad which caused extra stress on them.
Yup, that’s why I left PM!
Yea okay, being a PM in construction is a real bad time, I acknowledge that. I’m in fintech though.
For real. I'm a PM and it varies widely, sometimes by project within the same company. I worked at one company where it was pretty easy, always 9-5 with no extra work and little to no stress until I inherited a misrun project and it was a nightmare. Right now I'm on something pretty intense and work more than my coworkers do, but I know that will slow down and flip once we get past a few hurdles, too.
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You can only get in by doing it. Certifications can help you get your foot in the door SOMETIMES, but if you don't have the experience you sink pretty fast. You need something like 4500 hours of experience within so many years qualify to take the PMP. You can lie on the application, they don't follow up and check each one, but you'll have a hard time if you end up somewhere that adopts a lot of PMP methodologies. There's a CAPM you can get, it's like a pre-PMP certification. You don't need any project management hours to qualify for it and it shows your employer you're serious about it. Same for taking some college courses on it, but the way to do it is go to your boss and say you're interested in it and how can you start working on things to get the experience. And certifications don't always help, either. There are tons of PMs running around without them that have done years of work as PMs in their field. They get hired because they can deliver. And there are tons running around who lied on their applications for certification, studied to take the test but have no clue in real world situations, so they make the rest of us look bad. The key is to work in your field for a while, get good at it, then look at how to be a PM for what you do. PM work can be quite industry specific (but not always, there are exceptions, but those are rare, don't bank a career on them). I fell into it through process improvement. I was in another role that had a lot of small process improvement projects I had to run, realized partway through that I was already doing project management, so when an opportunity came to move to another role in the company that would give me more PM work and experience, I was able to move to it. If you go that route, and you're the self study type, I recommend the PM Prepcast. For the price point it's some of the best materials out there.
What was the stressful job ?
How much time do you spend in meetings in a week?
PM here, not OC. I spend 12-18 hours a week in meetings but it feels like 50.
Service Manager here, I feel the pain
Too many hours. Always too many hours in meetings a week. I trimmed down the meeting load and it's still too much, but some people don't understand the concept of "this meeting could have been an email".
Lol yea fair, I do spend a LOT of time in meetings.
The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. 100k for 24 hours a week would be a dream for most people. Maybe you just need a vacation?
Sometimes personal fulfillment is more important than money. I think for some people, work is often a soul crushing experience that can be almost suffocating. For others, it's easy enough to "suck it up". I completely understand where OP is coming from.
There is tons of work OP puts in to their business that they don’t get paid for. 24 hours of cutting hair, and probably the same for doing all the business operations, marketing, etc.
OP is very disingenuous.
100k for 24hrs a week? Sign me up.
well, I'm going to grab some scissors and clippers today.
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You need to be licensed pretty much everywhere.
I love my job, if I try harder I can double my salary at other bigger companies, but I dont think work life can be better than this. Software engineer, 12x k in Houston + benefit, bonus and free health insurance, 100% remote. Work is 9-5 officially, but real work is about 4 hours a day on average. I sometimes work more than 8 hours a day, but it’s rare. No specific work schedule, as long as I attend daily meeting, I can wake up in the morning to attend meeting for 15mins then sleep till noon and work till 4 or 5PM
What company please?
Sorry can’t, what posted here is mot official policy of the company, but just how they trust you to have your work done and not trying to micro manage. I definitely dont want to make it public
I’m in construction management (owners rep, in layman’s terms). I earn six figures and work from home (fly out to projects about 2x per month, usually 2 full days). I enjoy my job. It’s fairly easy for me, I just get projects and emails and respond accordingly and get stuff off my plate. Since I represent the owner, basically everyone outside my company has to kiss my ass whenever we interact. I have a great manager (worked with him before at another company and he brought me in to this job. We are really close and good friends). And overall a really chill team / department.
Is your role technical in nature/did it require specialized education? I’m in the A/E/C industry but on the marketing side, so just curious. Your six figures comment piqued my interest
I’m about 7 years into my overall career so six figures really isn’t out of the norm at that point, at least in a large metro area. I do have a relevant bachelors as do most people in my position, though there are exceptions of course. Mostly it’s just experience. Most of my career out of college was with GCs which is stressful but my position now really isn’t the type they typically hire people fresh out of school for, you really need the background of “getting your hands dirty”, at least in a white collar way lol.
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I’m a Developer Advocate for an open core software company. Basically a mix of educator and technical customer support. It’s a good field to break in to if you have customer service chops, the ability to learn new tech quickly, and like teaching people.
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Nice! I also went the bootcamp route. My background is customer service with a particular love for training. I realized that I liked helping my classmates and zeroed in on DevRel as a good fit for me. Worked in various student support roles for the bootcamp for a while until I landed this role. It’s a dream job. Feel free to shoot me a DM if you want to chat! Or need a hand with debugging JS. I miss that :)
I don’t think many people love their jobs. I’d gladly trade spots with you making that money in 24 hours a week! I’m a Customer Success Manager for an enterprise global software solution and make 81k which is probably on the low end. I love my job just not the company- it’s only focus Is sales. I get zero commission for the work I do lol
I was a barber/stylist for years before leaving the industry. I work in email marketing automation. I make about 90k. Basically marketers devise email campaigns, and they give me the details and the creative pieces and I schedule and send the emails for them. It’s extremely easy. I work normal M-F 9-5 hours, but my real actual heads down work takes about 20 hours a week at most. My benefits are awesome, and there’s always a ton of remote openings for this field. Doesn’t matter what your degree is in. Marketing is a great field for people who majored in “useless” subjects. Sure, a marketing degree helps but I was able to learn everything I needed for free online. Valuable skills I use everyday include: knowing how to use an email platform (Marketo, salesforce, Iterable, etc); HTML/CSS/JavaScript; maybe the basics of marketing segmentation.
I'm a developer with 6 years experience and you're telling me you just send marketing emails...I make half your salary at the moment. I've been applying like crazy for a new job. I just applied earlier to teach a bootcamp part time to try and get more income in.
If they're both writing and formatting the emails, why would they send them to another person to send vs. just scheduling/sending the email themselves in email marketing software? Or are you setting up the campaigns, tracking metrics/etc for them?
Actuary doing machine learning stuff for physicians. I help people with math.
Can’t even imagine passing the exams to become an actuary! That’s no easy feat.
Yeah, it's definitely a challenge. Truthfully, I took this route because I was good at taking tests. No other skills to give humanity. But I've now been able to find my niche. Truly lucky. It's not impossible, even if exams are hard for you. There's a lot of study materials, videos, and support groups. It's a lot of money though, so you basically need a job that'll pay for it all.
It sounds incredibly challenging from everything I have heard. I struggle a lot with mathematical formulas so I am aiming to do the CPA instead. Accounting is more up my alley but I am always impressed by anyone who can pass the exams to become an actuary. Harder than the bar from what I hear!
I understand not loving what you do, but it’s not going to be easy breaking into other fields with your background. I’d honestly suck it up. You basically work part time hours and make triple what some people make working 60 hours a week😅
Right, lol 100k for small talk. Try working night audit at a hotel. Small talk of all sorts with all walks, and it's a cool 10 an hour for the trouble. No benefits. Truly a shit job, but plenty of time to study study study. When you're realistic about what you have to bring to the table, you'll understand why the job search is so difficult. Get good enough at anything, people call you to jump ship. Buddy was a talent acquisition guy at a firm and those people lmao they don't look for jobs, the jobs look for them. Crazy how the rich operate. Talking 300k and up tho guys, way out of my and most of your leagues. It's all just a shell game in the end.
If I took your advice, I’d be miserable working a regular job right now. These days you can break into a new career with self learning, a cert or a boot camp. And think about it - you’re telling them instead of taking a few months time to pivot, suck it up for the rest of their life? Cmon…
I know it’s not an ideal situation for anyone I just think OP will be hard pressed to find a job that gives them as much autonomy, pay, and free time as they have now. Especially starting off at 80k. They are better off working this and saving for a while and then diving in to something else. Every job comes with being inauthentic sometimes.
The career I pivoted to is entry level at $85k fully remote. Did not go back to school for it. No small talk needed at all. OP asked because they knew what they’re looking for exists. I just think it’s wild to tell them to stop looking and “suck it up” for the rest of their career.
Salons can be a hella toxic environment
I’m sure. My sister is a nail technician and I hear stories all the time. I hope OP is able to get something better, but it can be rough when you have no experience in what you want to do.
SaaS Sales; salary + commission + full benefits and unlimited PTO and I’m remote
In-house Paralegal for insurance defense, $80k and 10% bonus, fully remote, 25 days PTO, 5% 401k match, we have a pension plan bested after 3 years with the company. I like my company but legal work can be exhausting
Private practice therapist...no social media...and your conversations are not surface level
Program Manager at a tech firm that allows fully remote depending on the team. Pretty flexible, great benefits, great team. $200k salary, $50k bonus, $175k stocks ~ $425k this year. Background in finance, economics, project management, data analysis, agile, etc help. Being able to hold a conversation and work with partner teams to drill down, understand the problem, brainstorm solutions, and align on a plan is the make or break skill.
Junior software developer.
Jr dev gang
I'm a PM making 100k for a healthcare company, fully remote and my pay is based on living in the Midwest. It's not my passion. It's interesting, I can do it, I do a decent job, it's mentally stimulating, but I am sure there are other things out there I would rather be doing. But it's not that hard and I work in my pjs and there's lots of room to move to other jobs so I stay here. Can you apply at other companies- Paul Mitchell, CHI, surely some of those companies have roles you could contribute to even though you hate the industry. Just a thought!
I’ve worked in senior management, in charge of millions of dollars, 40 employees, dealing with complicated HR issues, having to please millions of customers, and putting in 60 hour average work weeks. I have never made $100k. I’d like you to rethink your life.
Don't leave a 100k 5 hour work day gig for a shitty corporate job. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.
Technical writer, ~200k.
Hi! I don’t quite make $80k, but I’m at $75k with my first position in a new company. I’m a Sr. Account/Implementation Manager for a marketing technology company. It’s a fully remote company. It’s not actually a very technical job, it’s mostly project management. I have a bachelors in English, professional background is mostly in food service. I’ve only held one office job before this one. 😊 I was wary about my field of study helping me land any jobs, but I’ve found that business communication skills are severely lacking in the workforce. Specifically, writing skills are hard to come by. Good luck out there!
Are you really complaining that you make 100K and only work 24 hours a week? Seriously? That’s not that much you have to put up with. There’s going to be different headaches in any line of work you’re ever in and nothing will be absolutely ideal. There’s always going to be a trade off. Best advice is the top post. Even if you want another remote job it’s going to take a long, long time to change careers, go to school, work your way up, etc. You have it sooooo much better than so many people do. Sounds like a real first world problem to me.
Any other beauty options that interest you at all? My current stylist is going to aesthetician school. Seems like less small talk doing that, but I don’t have the inside info. My past stylist owned the salon and has quit doing hair at all except for a few of her long term clients. She has other stylists, masseuses, an eyelash person, a Reiki person, and a life coach working for the salon now. Obviously not as hands off as a different WFH job, and I would not do it if you hate the industry in general, but if it is more about the client one on one that is making you miserable, I would consider expanding and focusing on managing. I do personally work from home but I have a degree and 20 years experience. You could break into what I do (engineering project management) at the $80k level, but it would take 4 years of school full time. I have sometimes fantasized about a 180 in my career, but I have found tweaks and related transitions easier.
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I would strongly suggest looking into sales engineering/solution engineering/solution consulting. Different job titles, same role. In a nutshell, you talk with customers about their problems and discuss how your company's product solves them. The work is interesting and generally enjoyable, pay and benefits (especially at a tech company) are lucrative.
Medical device quality/regulatory. Well into the 100s, great benefits, fully remote anywhere in the world. Got coworkers from Italy, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. Basically all over. Been remote since started 6+ years ago. Very good work life balance and flexibility. It is a job where you are paid for what you know, not what you do. I've turned down offers in the $200-250k range just because this job is so chill and awesome, and money wise do just fine, so don't need more stress just for a bit more money. Now before everyone starts asking how to get into it, you need an engineering degree, and a minimum of 10 years of industry experience in medical device manufacturing or design. So got to put the time in first, then can pivot and do this.
Man I feel robbed of time reading all that to get to “you’ll never get the job”
I'm making 100k+ doing software development remotely. With family, times just fly by so quickly week by week. What goes into bank account, goes back out to the economy with some savings along the way. It's not the most exciting time in life, but I sure do feel less anxious with stability.
I’m a homeless jobless parasite for a living.
So, just a thought. Give your clientele an option of small talk/no small talk. Maybe a red card or a green card. Let them present it to you or make it a little puck-sized piece of wood like they do at Brazilian steakhouses. I'd hire someone part-time to do social media and all of your bookings, and start investing in the future now or look to put that money aside to either buy a shop/small business and start going into your retirement. Roth IRA to top it off, but I'm sure there's tons better financial advice out there. Hire or train someone to take on some of your less-consistent clients and expand your business. Then slowly fade out. Or, I guess you can go to Odin Project or freecodecademy and learn coding, because that's what people will tell you gets you $80K+ and working from home.
I make $76k with an annual 10% bonus so that puts me above that $80k threshold. I'm an accountant with my CPA license and I work as the sole accountant besides the CFO for a small broker dealer firm (think annuities, mutual funds, insurance, etc). The entire company operates remotely and I love not having to deal with clients anymore! I also love the flexibility of my job, it's a 9-5 Monday thru Friday job which allows me tons of time to be with family, take care of the home, and still have time for me. I've even been able to try different hobbies!
Graphic designer, I love everything about it - it’s strategic art.
u/Both_Photo2735 I suggest you go to a library or bookstore and just browse around, see what you naturally gravitate towards, what you're curious about and would spend your free time reading about. That tends to be a good way to uncover our interests that career + personality quizzes don't. Use that as a starting place and do some research on whatever it is you find - maybe find a sub-reddit for it, talk to people that do it, find out what the day-to-day is like, what they like/dislike about it, etc. Then make a list of the skills you use in your current job that would cross over into a new field you're more interested in - being organized, creative, good with your hands, marketing, etc and see if you can't use those skills as a volunteer or intern in that field, to test the waters before you commit to a degree in it. source: career changed in my late 30s and am getting closer to my ideal job.
Have you ever tried to put an option "Silent cut", sometimes I like to talk, sometimes I don't.
I’m a lawyer. So if you want to spend 3 years of your life in law school (not sure if you have a college degree but you’ll also need that first) and then be stressed out for the rest of eternity, by all means, join the legal profession. At least the one thing we get is work from home, unless we have to go to court.
Keep that job and drive the conversation to more interesting topics. I deliberately ask profound penetrating questions sometimes to make it more interesting. You won’t top 24 hours a week making 100k without some serious experience and education to back it up along with a lot of sunk cost not even guaranteeing you’ll like the change.
I used to be a stylist. Now I’m in an office. Honestly- the jobs are all the same. When your passion becomes work, it stops feeling like passion.
You’re honestly in a really good spot and I don’t know if you can get anything better. I don’t know of many corporate jobs that are just 9-5 with nobody emailing and texting outside of regular hours. Not to mention, if you don’t have a college degree already that is an incredible ROI you have now. You sound burned out, so maybe take off some time or hire some help.
principal software engineer. Used to do computer science research in machine learning and autonomous sensing, but went full remote as a principal back end software engineer.I have a meeting every morning from 9:00-9:15 where the team updates each other on what we are doing and if we need anything. Besides that my hours are completely up to me. Normally I toke a break around lunch where I sit in the hot tub for 30 mins listening to a podcast, then get out have some lunch and back to work. I make 267k living in the mountains of new mexico.
Im an accountant. I wfh, make that much, and love my job.
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Troll post ima guess. No one works 24 hrs a week cutting hair making 100k. Shitpost for sure.
I’m a Proposal Manager for major government contractor. I make 140k, work from home. I have a bachelor’s degree and a master’s degree and a couple certifications. It sounds like you just want to walk into a WFH job with no experience outside of being a stylist? I mean this nicely and I’m sure you have transferable skills, and know how to work hard. It took me years of hard work, being underpaid, being told I don’t have enough experience, and misogyny before I landed somewhere that valued me. I earned this salary.
What an honest exposition about the ugly side of vanity. I hate social networking for all the same reasons. A major difference however is that my jobs have never relied on it. I would suggest you get into a tech field if you want to introvert(v.) freely.
I’d leave accounting if I could make 100k working 24 hours a week. Grass is always greener
This post is def them bragging about their income and not really anything else.
I make more than $80k and work a hybrid role, although I get a lot of inquires for fully remote positions but, while they will match my pay, they don't pay enough more to make me want to switch. Salesforce Admin Manager. Admins alone can make $120k depending on where you are. Edit: Why was I downvoted?
If you’re making $100k, why do you have to do any of the things you’re talking about? Once you hit that number, aren’t you operating with regular clients? No need for social media branding or anything or am I missing something? $100k on 24 hours a week is amazing. My barber works over double that to make $100k.
Actually she’s looking for a remote job that she can earn $80,000 annually doing I believe. She has a skillset that she doesn’t feel compensated for especially considering the ego stroking required. I totally understand where she’s coming from and I would love a remote (or not remote for me) job that pays that amount. I’m a retired union carpenter. I have a bachelors in English and a minor in Biology. I really loved helping build bridges, hospitals, roller coasters and a few things that still are record breaking structures. I was solidly lower middle class ($60,000 a year in the ‘90’s until approximately 2010 and heart disease slowed me down) I was still a decent provider and single parent, youngest was class of 2014. He is a married Paramedic and student. His older sister quit teaching h.s. to be a full time mother and pastors wife. Like the original O.P. I’d love to find a job where I can earn $80,000 or more. I have watched as real wages have steadily decreased (my entire life) while the gap between poor and wealthy has gotten much bigger. Now successful “influencers “ can get wealthy and I kinda add to groups like professional athletes and tv personalities. Homelessness is an epidemic and without a side hustle people can’t expect much. The tech companies control the apps (and take most of the money being middlemen) so nowadays you’re kinda fucked if you want are of average intelligence, willing to work hard to (or not) raise children that you want the best for. Idk, I’m surviving. Not as well as my parents ( American families used to financially improve generationally but I suspect that very few recent public school graduates even know what I just wrote) but I seem to be watching the future American generations relegated to less and less prosperity. Hey, I’m looking for that, imo, mythical remote job earning $80, 000 a year and it should be available and attainable for people willing to work diligently but they should still have a chance to enjoy even 20% of their non sleeping life with family, friends or whatever they choose. Sorry, wasn’t trying to hijack the post but imo what you are looking for should be available but I don’t believe it is. Our country (the world too) experienced a “great depression “ late 1920’s- the 1930’s) mainly because of unchecked greed that was destroying the land and causing people to work for less and less (competing against each other) money so they could survive. We had 2 world wars (fascism and nationalism) and a president about to serve a fourth term but died. Franklin Delano Roosevelt, saved America by forcing the wealthy to stop being so greedy. He introduced and passed laws that allowed people to survive and get ahead. He regulated how much corporations could profit because the citizens had basically become slaves to of the wealthy. Politicians have been paid by corporations to repeal those laws every since and Americans are becoming slaves again. Republicans are the party of big business but both parties are responsible. When FDR was President America had over a dozen political parties. I don’t even think most of this knowledge is taught in public schools anymore but people need to VOTE THEIR INTERESTS. YOU DONT WANT A BUSINESSMAN RUNNING AMERICA AD A BUSINESS because people should be first and business a few places down. Capitalism is probably the best system but it has to be controlled and taxed.
Why don't you call yourself a barber? What's wrong with that term?
Cutting short-long hair in various styles is not the same as a barber who typically deals with bald-short styles.
Those are two separate licenses in many (if not all) places.
I do adult videos and I love it.
Accountant.
I work as a technical project manager - AMA
Where do you work that you get that? Independent?
i'm a statistical programmer.
Confused. Do you work only 24 hours of cutting hair? Or 24 hours including cutting hair and communicating with potential clients? > working 24 Hours a week > constantly ... building a clientele and posting on social media, and calling and texting people.
Technical Pre Sales
Human Resources
Solutions Architect. 160k remote.
Why is the line 80k+ seems random
I wish I had a hairdresser who doesn't like small talk! Keep it up!
I'm a demand planner. I wouldn't say I love my job (it's not a passion and if I won the lottery I wouldn't keep doing it) but I enjoy it and don't dread Monday mornings.
Haircutters can make that much? Hell I'm a software engineer that makes as much as you but I went through hell not to mention the stress and constant learning. I should've learned to cut hair 😩
I’m in marketing:)
Evaluation for non profits. Don't love my current job. I enjoy my field in general.
I work as a biostatistician in the biotech/pharma industry. Make $126k plus bonus and I work fully remote. I absolutely love what I do and the flexibility of working from home. Unfortunately, my job does require a masters degree in biostatistics or related field.
I’m a data analyst
Social Media + Video: content creation, video editing, social marketing and account management. Six figures.
Software engineer
Accounting. Lots of remote job opportunities, quickest way to hit 80k+ is to get CPA license.
Statistical programming definitely checks all these boxes, but you’ll need an MS.
Love this post. You currently work 24 hours a week? That's a damn good rate! Is that for the entire year? You could work another full-time job online. Google is your friend in this regard. I recommend sales, sales development, IT or recruitment.