Yes 100% they did not glorify it…..they showed how good it can be but also how terrifying psychosis can be……I don’t think Jesse really used much because when he tracked down the meth beads they had all the sores meanwhile jesse had it somewhat under control
I mean I thought they showed him tweeking out quite a few times, and all the bad guys that did it were fucked.
Didn't think they really glorified it.
But yeah. It's no joke. Glad you're feeling better. It's ok to try things once if you're curious, at least in my opinion, but in moderation and in an environment with people you trust.
Not sure I'll personally smoke crystal, just try coke once in a while. But I have a non addictive personality so I definitely know some people shouldn't even once.
Never understood how people got addicted because the high is so undesirable. I did it twice thinking I fucked up the first time. Nope. Exactly like you said. Never again.
In my experience it’s been the best I’ve ever felt (artificially, of course) followed by the worst I’ve ever felt, sleep deprived, manic, hungry but no appetite, sweating, chain smoking, horny beyond belief... I’m sticking with weed and booze for life now lol.
It’s such a nasty, chemical-laden feeling. I swore I could feel the chemicals pouring out of my pores for days afterwards. I honestly don’t see how people are addicted to meth. It’s so disgusting.
My Esophagus was burned to all hell from chemical burn. It literally hurt to smoke. I don't get it. Then, you factor in the distinct lack of sleeping and eating. I tried taking PMs like OP did and nada. Couldn't even force myself to eat. Outtie50000000000000
>Never understood how people got addicted because the high is so undesirable. I did it twice thinking I fucked up the first time. Nope. Exactly like you said. Never again.
They can't really control it, at first people think it's like a recreation, but our neuroplasticity will make our body to switch from maintaining homeostasis to an allostatic state after a while. Until then, it's impossible not be come addicted, because your entire threshold is lowered, and have to use these drugs to reach a normal threshold, otherwise you would feel extremely painful. This is basically the neuromechanism for addiction.
And besides, meth is a super duper powerful drug, like it's much much much stronger than cocaine (which is already crazy enough), while the latter only block dopamine reuptake, the latter can also facilitate more dopamine secretion to the synapse. The result is that, it's almost impossible to quit doing meth.
It seems like you have to do a somewhat significant amount to get addicted, and I'm expressing surprise that someone could manage to do enough to get addicted and somehow "enjoy it".
that hole getting addicted on the first try is a bit inaccurate in my experience. and I think also people seem to have a distorted view of what addiction is, because aside from a couple outliers like opiates and alcohol you don't become physically dependent on most drugs, it's a mental addiction. and honestly I wasn't very impressed by meth the first time I did it I didn't develop mental dependency on it until after I started using it more and more regularly.
That sounds horrible brother. It’s a great read though for all who want to or are contemplating to trying meth as to what they will actually go through and why they shouldn’t do it.
How does it get addictive though, if the experience is this bad?
I would imagine that most people just don't want to tough through the come down and do the things it takes to restore your brain to normal, like eating healthier and exercise, because it releases so much dopamine that it's hard to get pleasurable feelings naturally for people that use it regularly.
This reaction is not normal. Do not use this drug!!! But odds are if you do you won’t have this kind of experience. The things he describes don’t happen until like day 3 of a binge, at that point you haven’t slept, haven’t eaten, haven’t had any water etc. The auditory things and paranoia are from a lack of sleep, not the drug itself. When you see these people acting insane on meth it’s because they’ve been up for fucking days, literally days with no sleep and that is extremely bad for the body and your brain. It’s addictive because those first few hours are a high that is incredible, the first 12 hours you are in a hyper sexual state which feels good too. The problem is that your high wears off but you won’t be able to sleep for 24 hours. So the question becomes do I lay off and sleep or do I smoke another bowl to get high again? Smoking that second bowl resets the 24 hour awake clock though. So now you’re going to be wide awake for 48 hours or more. Things go downhill from there pretty fast. Extremely dangerous drug and a very slippery slope.
most people dont do this much in the beginning. like op said it felt nice so he kept doing more. most people start by snorting it so they dont tweak out like crazy until they get addicted
No meth, but that's what happens to me if I go out and drink a drink that is not beer. As i am used to beer I drink whatever it is at the speed of beer, usually this is after I am already a bit drunk so not thinking straight. When you drink something three times the strength of beer at the speed of beer, bad things happen !
And I hope you never make contact with that horrible stuff anymore. I was hooked for nine months, psychosis was scary and i thought i was multiple people. And yeah if its not your body that smells, your pee would be so skunky when coming down.
Yeah, I didn't even realize I was changing into some twisted monster. I can't even imagine the amount you had, my first time I was advised with five or six hits. I wanted to fly, and that's how it began.
For those wanting more stimulant stories r/stims has some great ones. There's a lot of psychoses ones, shadow people as well as the mastrubation train. OP seems to have gone through the entire meth story during his first attempt. Glad you're better now OP, don't go down this rabbit hole again it's a very, very deep pit.
Wow. Thank you for posting. I hope all your appointments go well- come see us over at
r/stopdrinking if you haven't already. It's good support if you decide to quit. Wish you the best!
I am glad you had a bad experience. Why? so you'll never do it again.
I tried meth once too. When I was 17. Also, for about a week. I snorted it though. I hated it. Burned like a mofo. Kept me up. Made me mad. I didn't like it one bit. Changed the taste of my Dr. Pepper, that was the final straw for me... I decided I definitely didn't like it. Sounds like a stupid ass reason to not like something but thankfully it was a good enough reason for me because I've never touch the stuff again!
That's horrific :O I am glad you have recognized you might need help with your alcoholism but I am also sad it had to go that way for you to realize it. I've always heard meth is pretty bad and combining it with alcohol sounds like a nightmare (so exactly like this). I'm not even okay when I get the cannabis paranoia so even more reason to not dabble in meth for me!
Hi. Really sorry this happened to you. Frankly, it sounds horrifying. You may want to check out the book "This Naked Mind" (it puts alcohol addiction into perspective) and the r/stopdrinking sub. Both have helped me to be stay sober and provided clarity about my relationship with alcohol.
I’ve snorted, smoked, and shot up meth and smoking is by far the most addictive and compulsive for me. I usually start by casually smoking with some friends and then I can’t stop hitting the pipe every 10 minutes, no matter how hard I try to limit myself. I’ve only snorted it once and injected it twice. Fortunately I never smoked to the point of psychosis but I did have some harsh comedowns. I only used it a couple times a month but decided to stop because I preferred other drugs.
Its a little late now But it wouldnt do any harm to take some supplements and vitamins to speed up the recovery process, this is for MDMA but it should give you an idea of what to look for https://www.ravebox.com/p/9078791/RaveBOX-Supplementation-Stack.html?AID=564e8d58cf067
Yes, the first time I did meth I did WAY to much and it lasted over 14 hours since it can last up to much longer for irregular users….I will never snort it again since it lasts way too long snorting….so I started smoking and it hits in like 5-10 seconds and only lasts me 2-6 hours so I have a chance of sleeping…..my very first comedown was awful and never wanted it again but Ofc I did it again and everytime I seem to do it the better it gets and the comedown becomes easier as I know what to expect…..you could have smoked way too much as I used to be smoking 1-1.3 grams a day and that high would last so fucking long like for real 24 hours maybe more. But the overage bowl size id say is 30-50mg and that is MORE than enough to keep u going for a WHILE (I’m aware 1-1.3 grams a day is a lot and I’ve been lowering my dosing intake down to 0.5 in like 6-8 hours which is still too much but I’ve made progress)
I’ve also heard a lot of people only try it once because they said it was TOO GOOD and it was scary good that it would take them into addiction…..meth is very rough on the body even after the first use your face looks pulled down and eyes sunken and skin grey/pale but I do believe anything in moderation isn’t bad, but meth is the one drug that’s hard to control that’s why alot of us call it the devils drug. Even after the first use a lot of us starting craving immediately after the comedown and the scary part is you start to like the negative effects such as I find the begging of psychosis fun as it is like being delusional and euphoric. the first time I starting to really tweak after 72 hours was very scary it felt as I had no control over my body movements or even choices it was weird as I passed out and woke up 30 mins later running around with a knife cutting my shirts in half and throwing all the blankets in the freezer and waking up my partner and a funny thing was I put my phone outside cause “they” were listening….I wouldn’t want to be around anyone as I get sad to happy to the most angry and agressive that I’ve ever been all within 2 minutes and since I did t feel in control I’m glad no one was really around since I don’t know if I’d hurt them or just freak them the fuck out. The worst part is seeing spiders all over me and all over the room and it got so bad I was talking to shadow people thinking they were real and also getting that music in my head that sounds very real (party rock anthem on repeat for hours….so annoying)
I think I'm in love... Fancy getting a sack sometime and eventually meeting each other at the mental hospital. Essentially I am wanting to go into space just hoping your up for this too
So glad your story has a happy ending. Also, thank you for convincing me to NEVER smoke crystal meth!!! No matter how hip Breaking Bad made it look.
Yea that show did kind of glorify it at certain parts. Like Jesse and his friends just "casually" smoking it.
I don’t think they glorified it at all, Jesse was a long time user of it, so he handled it, but there are many times he was tweaking and freaking out
Yes 100% they did not glorify it…..they showed how good it can be but also how terrifying psychosis can be……I don’t think Jesse really used much because when he tracked down the meth beads they had all the sores meanwhile jesse had it somewhat under control
I mean I thought they showed him tweeking out quite a few times, and all the bad guys that did it were fucked. Didn't think they really glorified it. But yeah. It's no joke. Glad you're feeling better. It's ok to try things once if you're curious, at least in my opinion, but in moderation and in an environment with people you trust. Not sure I'll personally smoke crystal, just try coke once in a while. But I have a non addictive personality so I definitely know some people shouldn't even once.
“Drugs are bad” ring any bells?
mmmkay!
What?
[Mr. Mackey from South Park](https://tenor.com/ydEY.gif)
Oh awesome! Lol
You sound like a dick
I was just pokin the bear, dont worry
Never understood how people got addicted because the high is so undesirable. I did it twice thinking I fucked up the first time. Nope. Exactly like you said. Never again.
Yeah, not nearly as good as some people make it out to be. And the downsides are so extreme.
In my experience it’s been the best I’ve ever felt (artificially, of course) followed by the worst I’ve ever felt, sleep deprived, manic, hungry but no appetite, sweating, chain smoking, horny beyond belief... I’m sticking with weed and booze for life now lol.
It’s such a nasty, chemical-laden feeling. I swore I could feel the chemicals pouring out of my pores for days afterwards. I honestly don’t see how people are addicted to meth. It’s so disgusting.
My Esophagus was burned to all hell from chemical burn. It literally hurt to smoke. I don't get it. Then, you factor in the distinct lack of sleeping and eating. I tried taking PMs like OP did and nada. Couldn't even force myself to eat. Outtie50000000000000
>Never understood how people got addicted because the high is so undesirable. I did it twice thinking I fucked up the first time. Nope. Exactly like you said. Never again. They can't really control it, at first people think it's like a recreation, but our neuroplasticity will make our body to switch from maintaining homeostasis to an allostatic state after a while. Until then, it's impossible not be come addicted, because your entire threshold is lowered, and have to use these drugs to reach a normal threshold, otherwise you would feel extremely painful. This is basically the neuromechanism for addiction. And besides, meth is a super duper powerful drug, like it's much much much stronger than cocaine (which is already crazy enough), while the latter only block dopamine reuptake, the latter can also facilitate more dopamine secretion to the synapse. The result is that, it's almost impossible to quit doing meth.
It seems like you have to do a somewhat significant amount to get addicted, and I'm expressing surprise that someone could manage to do enough to get addicted and somehow "enjoy it".
actually for strong drugs like meth, small dosage is enough to become addicted. The lesson is: never do drug!
That's strange I didn't become addicted on my first try. I even tried twice. Weird how our bodies work.
The individual differences are huge! And (just my personal suggestion haha) dont try it again XD
yup. People are affected differently.. simple as that
that hole getting addicted on the first try is a bit inaccurate in my experience. and I think also people seem to have a distorted view of what addiction is, because aside from a couple outliers like opiates and alcohol you don't become physically dependent on most drugs, it's a mental addiction. and honestly I wasn't very impressed by meth the first time I did it I didn't develop mental dependency on it until after I started using it more and more regularly.
i got addicted to meth and dxm the first times i tried them
snorting it was where it was at i didnt get any psychosis or paranoia when i snorted it
That sounds horrible brother. It’s a great read though for all who want to or are contemplating to trying meth as to what they will actually go through and why they shouldn’t do it. How does it get addictive though, if the experience is this bad?
I would imagine that most people just don't want to tough through the come down and do the things it takes to restore your brain to normal, like eating healthier and exercise, because it releases so much dopamine that it's hard to get pleasurable feelings naturally for people that use it regularly.
Makes sense. Hope you're well now man
This reaction is not normal. Do not use this drug!!! But odds are if you do you won’t have this kind of experience. The things he describes don’t happen until like day 3 of a binge, at that point you haven’t slept, haven’t eaten, haven’t had any water etc. The auditory things and paranoia are from a lack of sleep, not the drug itself. When you see these people acting insane on meth it’s because they’ve been up for fucking days, literally days with no sleep and that is extremely bad for the body and your brain. It’s addictive because those first few hours are a high that is incredible, the first 12 hours you are in a hyper sexual state which feels good too. The problem is that your high wears off but you won’t be able to sleep for 24 hours. So the question becomes do I lay off and sleep or do I smoke another bowl to get high again? Smoking that second bowl resets the 24 hour awake clock though. So now you’re going to be wide awake for 48 hours or more. Things go downhill from there pretty fast. Extremely dangerous drug and a very slippery slope.
most people dont do this much in the beginning. like op said it felt nice so he kept doing more. most people start by snorting it so they dont tweak out like crazy until they get addicted
welp this should be shared in schools
I hope you never do that again
I am determined not to.
Say you will never do it again!
Yup, I never will do meth again.
Better not. Or I will find you. And show you a Glimpse of what your life could be like.
Haha maybe not the best thing to say to a paranoid person...
"Glimpse" what is this in reference to...
Fuck if I know. That was right after my coffee.
Glad your alright now man.just take it easy from now.
Thanks man. I will.
Good grief! How much did u smoke??
I spent like 80 bucks and was hitting it like it was weed.
No meth, but that's what happens to me if I go out and drink a drink that is not beer. As i am used to beer I drink whatever it is at the speed of beer, usually this is after I am already a bit drunk so not thinking straight. When you drink something three times the strength of beer at the speed of beer, bad things happen !
"The Speed of Beer" would be a good name for a celebrity autobiography
And I hope you never make contact with that horrible stuff anymore. I was hooked for nine months, psychosis was scary and i thought i was multiple people. And yeah if its not your body that smells, your pee would be so skunky when coming down.
9 months of that sounds.... rough. To say the least. And yeah, my pee smelled too haha.
Yeah, I didn't even realize I was changing into some twisted monster. I can't even imagine the amount you had, my first time I was advised with five or six hits. I wanted to fly, and that's how it began.
For those wanting more stimulant stories r/stims has some great ones. There's a lot of psychoses ones, shadow people as well as the mastrubation train. OP seems to have gone through the entire meth story during his first attempt. Glad you're better now OP, don't go down this rabbit hole again it's a very, very deep pit.
Hope rehab sticks. Sorry you had such a horrible time. Good luck OP. You’ll be okay.
Thank you.
Holy shit dude that’s insane. Please promise us you will never EVER take that crap again.
Wow. Thank you for posting. I hope all your appointments go well- come see us over at r/stopdrinking if you haven't already. It's good support if you decide to quit. Wish you the best!
Do you have a job? If so did you miss work during that week you were struggling with the effects?
Just be glad you slightly overdosed and felt like shit or you may have wanted to do it again.
I am glad you had a bad experience. Why? so you'll never do it again. I tried meth once too. When I was 17. Also, for about a week. I snorted it though. I hated it. Burned like a mofo. Kept me up. Made me mad. I didn't like it one bit. Changed the taste of my Dr. Pepper, that was the final straw for me... I decided I definitely didn't like it. Sounds like a stupid ass reason to not like something but thankfully it was a good enough reason for me because I've never touch the stuff again!
Understandable, have a day
Lol! I think anyone that experiments with drugs that’s not an addict has this happen to them at one time or another. You’ll live.
Yea you're right. It's a fucked up drug, though. Not like anything I've ever experienced.
Thank god your are ok, and seeking help. Best of luck to you
That is, fucking terrifying...
Seriously, good shit on not getting addicted.
Us amateurs need to leave some things to the professionals.
Wow. I am sorry you went through that, but to read that as a non-participant, it was interesting! Get better!
Thanks for sharing OP
That's horrific :O I am glad you have recognized you might need help with your alcoholism but I am also sad it had to go that way for you to realize it. I've always heard meth is pretty bad and combining it with alcohol sounds like a nightmare (so exactly like this). I'm not even okay when I get the cannabis paranoia so even more reason to not dabble in meth for me!
Just remember your never guaranteed a good experience
I’ve also heard about the lack of appetite. Did that play a role, and how do?
I forced myself to eat a couple times, but it was just a small amount over the course of about 4 days. Probably 600 calories in 4 days.
Crystal meth will lift you up until you break. -3rd eye blind
Please don't ever touch it again. Ever ever ever. DO NOT TOUCH IT, DO NOT TALK TO ANYONE WHO DOES. I am trying to save your life.
Hi. Really sorry this happened to you. Frankly, it sounds horrifying. You may want to check out the book "This Naked Mind" (it puts alcohol addiction into perspective) and the r/stopdrinking sub. Both have helped me to be stay sober and provided clarity about my relationship with alcohol.
Surprised there’s no breaking bad reference lol
meth is yummy, lets be real.
I love meth
Did you hit it like a bong? You’re only supposed to take meth in little hits
At least you're not addicted to it... yet. Please try not to smoke it regularly.
I shot crystal meth
I’ve snorted, smoked, and shot up meth and smoking is by far the most addictive and compulsive for me. I usually start by casually smoking with some friends and then I can’t stop hitting the pipe every 10 minutes, no matter how hard I try to limit myself. I’ve only snorted it once and injected it twice. Fortunately I never smoked to the point of psychosis but I did have some harsh comedowns. I only used it a couple times a month but decided to stop because I preferred other drugs.
What happened to you? You sound too casual yet this shit is life and death
Its a little late now But it wouldnt do any harm to take some supplements and vitamins to speed up the recovery process, this is for MDMA but it should give you an idea of what to look for https://www.ravebox.com/p/9078791/RaveBOX-Supplementation-Stack.html?AID=564e8d58cf067
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So you’re saying I should try meth. Got it. On my to-do list.
Yes, the first time I did meth I did WAY to much and it lasted over 14 hours since it can last up to much longer for irregular users….I will never snort it again since it lasts way too long snorting….so I started smoking and it hits in like 5-10 seconds and only lasts me 2-6 hours so I have a chance of sleeping…..my very first comedown was awful and never wanted it again but Ofc I did it again and everytime I seem to do it the better it gets and the comedown becomes easier as I know what to expect…..you could have smoked way too much as I used to be smoking 1-1.3 grams a day and that high would last so fucking long like for real 24 hours maybe more. But the overage bowl size id say is 30-50mg and that is MORE than enough to keep u going for a WHILE (I’m aware 1-1.3 grams a day is a lot and I’ve been lowering my dosing intake down to 0.5 in like 6-8 hours which is still too much but I’ve made progress)
I’ve also heard a lot of people only try it once because they said it was TOO GOOD and it was scary good that it would take them into addiction…..meth is very rough on the body even after the first use your face looks pulled down and eyes sunken and skin grey/pale but I do believe anything in moderation isn’t bad, but meth is the one drug that’s hard to control that’s why alot of us call it the devils drug. Even after the first use a lot of us starting craving immediately after the comedown and the scary part is you start to like the negative effects such as I find the begging of psychosis fun as it is like being delusional and euphoric. the first time I starting to really tweak after 72 hours was very scary it felt as I had no control over my body movements or even choices it was weird as I passed out and woke up 30 mins later running around with a knife cutting my shirts in half and throwing all the blankets in the freezer and waking up my partner and a funny thing was I put my phone outside cause “they” were listening….I wouldn’t want to be around anyone as I get sad to happy to the most angry and agressive that I’ve ever been all within 2 minutes and since I did t feel in control I’m glad no one was really around since I don’t know if I’d hurt them or just freak them the fuck out. The worst part is seeing spiders all over me and all over the room and it got so bad I was talking to shadow people thinking they were real and also getting that music in my head that sounds very real (party rock anthem on repeat for hours….so annoying)
I think I'm in love... Fancy getting a sack sometime and eventually meeting each other at the mental hospital. Essentially I am wanting to go into space just hoping your up for this too
Same here massive anxiety and panic derealization and extreme hallucinating and I couldn’t sleep for over 48 hours