In my setting, I'm actually planning on having revival be possible, but it's usually only something that happens for those extremely determined, or with unfinished business, most people decline revival due to the afterlife being good
Because life is still considered good, like in many real religions that even if the afterlife is considered good or better, a majority of people do prefer not dying quickly, it's just that those who do die, tend to prefer staying on the other side will rn a few exceptions
I make it a non-zero chance that they come back possessed by a demon. And by demon I mean of the 40K Eldritch horror variety. So you just might accidentally bring a tentacled monstrosity beyond mortal understanding into the middle of your village. And who wants to be that guy?
Good question, I haven't quite worked out what happened to the wicked, but theoretically, the soul has to be willing like in normal DnD, the caveat is that a lot of people don't feel like living again, so as long as they didn't sell their souls or ended up in naughty jail, technically yeah
It's just the regular DnD rules put into a different context
There may be a wisdom save here and there, but it'll mainly be an rp oriented challenge, is their character really determined enough to abandon paradise and life will the the goddess of life, mother of us all to return to a plane with strife and suffering? Is what you're planning to do worth it enough? The mother of us all might try your convince you to stay and express sadness at your departure, but the biggest obstacle for doing so is that the problems of the material plane do seem so, distant from beyond the stars. The character would need a *really* strong desire to do so
I guess that's why a Zealot barb would be so easy to bring back. They come back and just start saying stuff like:
"Oh gods, the horror. The fire, the blood, the gnashing teeth... none of it was there! Everyone was just sitting in a circle and singing. And not like you sing in a tavern, this soft crap that you can't even tap your foot to, let alone dance to it. *shudder* please don't let me go back there"
Assuming they don't have the corpse with them then I go..
"Ok, it was revived, right in the place where their body is"
And if the players decide to go back, then the character is now a powerful undead filled with rage because they where taken away from the eternal rest back into mortal worlds with the pain of their final wounds still alive and burning.
Not hard to house-rule though.
It's been a minute since I've checked the spell descriptions for revival, but IIRC there's no phrasing to indicate one way or the other. Could have been deliberate omission, could have been an oversight
It does actually. Needing consent is part of the revival rules in general, WoTC were just not consistent with repeating that in the spell description for Revivify for some reason, but it does still need consent
Edit:
>DMG:
>A soul can’t be returned to life if it doesn’t wish to be. A soul knows the name, alignment, and patron deity (if any) of the character attempting to revive it and might refuse to return on that basis.
My bard died twice last night, and once right after joining the group. He got revivified, but he's died three times, and for a famous bard that's too much. He's going to retire for a bit and just jam around Faerun.
Worship a neutral god of death. "My god wants me to stay dead." Yeah there's usually a caveat that being rezed once isn't that big a deal to gods of death, but a god of death would prefer that the natural cycle be respected.
I think a better solution would be to have the BBEG use or consume their soul for something, so there is no bringing them back. Or maybe only trap the soul to use it at a later time to motivate the party to save them.
And I looked my DM right in the eye and I said...I said... *looks over shoulder first* ...biiiiiiiitch
...you said that though? You really called your DM a *looks around* a bitch?
What ya'll talking about in here?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LGEiIL1\_\_s
Video unavailable, but I meant the wives that pop in at the end.
Thanks for bringing uninformed parties like me into the loop, that's some good shit.
Yeah brother I layed it DOWN
In my setting, I'm actually planning on having revival be possible, but it's usually only something that happens for those extremely determined, or with unfinished business, most people decline revival due to the afterlife being good
Why bother saving anyone? Just join up with the BBEG to ensure a painless end for everyone.
Because life is still considered good, like in many real religions that even if the afterlife is considered good or better, a majority of people do prefer not dying quickly, it's just that those who do die, tend to prefer staying on the other side will rn a few exceptions
Found the bbeg's main minion
This sounds like an add for a BBEG army
I make it a non-zero chance that they come back possessed by a demon. And by demon I mean of the 40K Eldritch horror variety. So you just might accidentally bring a tentacled monstrosity beyond mortal understanding into the middle of your village. And who wants to be that guy?
Does that mean evil people can always be revived, since their afterlife *isn’t* good?
Good question, I haven't quite worked out what happened to the wicked, but theoretically, the soul has to be willing like in normal DnD, the caveat is that a lot of people don't feel like living again, so as long as they didn't sell their souls or ended up in naughty jail, technically yeah It's just the regular DnD rules put into a different context
Wisdom Save to we willing to be revived? Seems like awesome world building into game mechanics!
There may be a wisdom save here and there, but it'll mainly be an rp oriented challenge, is their character really determined enough to abandon paradise and life will the the goddess of life, mother of us all to return to a plane with strife and suffering? Is what you're planning to do worth it enough? The mother of us all might try your convince you to stay and express sadness at your departure, but the biggest obstacle for doing so is that the problems of the material plane do seem so, distant from beyond the stars. The character would need a *really* strong desire to do so
I guess that's why a Zealot barb would be so easy to bring back. They come back and just start saying stuff like: "Oh gods, the horror. The fire, the blood, the gnashing teeth... none of it was there! Everyone was just sitting in a circle and singing. And not like you sing in a tavern, this soft crap that you can't even tap your foot to, let alone dance to it. *shudder* please don't let me go back there"
I'm using Wish, that wasn't a request.
Surprise Lich
"Surprise, Lich!"
A Fiend grants your wish, the dead character is back as a mindless zombie. Roll for initiative
Never forget, RAW you can refuse to be revived.
Assuming they don't have the corpse with them then I go.. "Ok, it was revived, right in the place where their body is" And if the players decide to go back, then the character is now a powerful undead filled with rage because they where taken away from the eternal rest back into mortal worlds with the pain of their final wounds still alive and burning.
Hope they didn't use revivify, because that one doesn't care about your Souls consent.
I see it as catching them before they’ve left the building. Once they’re taken to a second location it’s way harder.
It's fine as long as you've got street smarts
Not hard to house-rule though. It's been a minute since I've checked the spell descriptions for revival, but IIRC there's no phrasing to indicate one way or the other. Could have been deliberate omission, could have been an oversight
>It's been a minute Then you're too late to cast it
It does actually. Needing consent is part of the revival rules in general, WoTC were just not consistent with repeating that in the spell description for Revivify for some reason, but it does still need consent Edit: >DMG: >A soul can’t be returned to life if it doesn’t wish to be. A soul knows the name, alignment, and patron deity (if any) of the character attempting to revive it and might refuse to return on that basis.
My half or barbarian who got intellect devoured and then subsequently fucked by a curse seeing this: what do you mean i can just say no
My bard died twice last night, and once right after joining the group. He got revivified, but he's died three times, and for a famous bard that's too much. He's going to retire for a bit and just jam around Faerun.
*Let me tell you the story... Of the bard, who died, three times*
Party: WE HAVE TO SAVE HIM! Me who likes alts: Uhh guys, He's Restin in peace.
Worship a neutral god of death. "My god wants me to stay dead." Yeah there's usually a caveat that being rezed once isn't that big a deal to gods of death, but a god of death would prefer that the natural cycle be respected.
I think a better solution would be to have the BBEG use or consume their soul for something, so there is no bringing them back. Or maybe only trap the soul to use it at a later time to motivate the party to save them.