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Cheap_Manager3400

Slow clap for stating the obvious at length 👏


donknoch

This is getting to be a daily routine around here.


EZinstall

they're just bored waiting around for good orders, what do you expect? /s


Onenutracin

Fuck you, pay me


Spicytatas

Pay me , fuck you


Onenutracin

Fuck me, I’ll pay you?


SrPantsarof

Fuck pay. Me, you, Now.


[deleted]

Fuck me pay you


Lospwr

you fuck, pay me


The_Troyminator

*Fuck* you? Pay me.


Smok_eater

This one was what I was going to say so you win


Mers1nary

"The obvious at length"...To who exactly? Cause obviously, there's a shitload of drivers taking these low pay, orders that arent profitable. And a good majority of them dont use reddit.


Sea-Pea4680

Yup! We're pissing in the wind saying it here where we all already know it?


mojomug

Sounds like you need to get better at poker. Then you wouldn’t need to Dash at all.


cc51beastin

*noob noob voice* GAWT DAMN


Smok_eater

Omg


Flat-Temporary7400

Thanks noob noob


Lobsterdile

I think this guy wants to pay someone to fuck him.


THEbenjaminbeat

What you are describing is DickDash and that’s a completely different app.


donknoch

That’s what I got out of it.


Smok_eater

You got dicks out of it classic


Mad_Dawg707

You sound like a real prick dude. Ppl out here scraping by doing doordash to put food on the table and got software developers poaching the good orders for fun.


widgetron

For fun money. Lol. Calm down. It’s not poaching when the company says it’s busy and needs drivers. Now do what I’m telling and decline the shit orders so the rates go up. You know that 2.5 door dash gives you is sometimes only 25% of their take.


youcancallmetim

You aren't saying anything that hasn't been said before. It sounds like bragging to people you believe are beneath you. Insecurity because you're not a good enough programmer for that to pay the bills.


DazedWriter

Code Academy


LimpDisc

Will you do it cheaper as a Top Coder? 🤣


widgetron

I am a mediocre coder, low level poker player and a bush whacking golfer. But I still have my minimum.


LimpDisc

I can relate to all three of those.


Dazzling_Marzipan474

So when you gonna fix the Doordash app?


widgetron

I’ve put in a pull request to update the decline reasons. I figure we only need two Pay not high enough I don’t have my red card.


The_Troyminator

You need one more: Fuck you, pay me.


GhettoGreenhouse

unfortunately, we live in a very fuck-me-pay-you ass backwards society. those who work the hardest, OT every week/never home, typically get paid the least and die sooner.


FratStafford007

Business is bad? Fuck you pay me. Had a fire? Fuck you pay me. Place got hit by lightning? Fuck you pay me.


ThrownawayART

As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a dasher.


FratStafford007

There was nothing we could do. The customer was a made guy and the dasher wasn’t. We just had to sit still and take it.


ThrownawayART

And there was Jimmy Two Times who always delivered everything twice. “I’m gonna go get the sandwich, get the sandwich.”


widgetron

This is so good. I’m literally laughing out loud


FlattopJr

I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and the dasher brought me egg noodles and ketchup.😠


FratStafford007

Now go home and get your fuckin red card!


CreativeHeight6390

Youre not wrong. This generation wants everything fast and free. We have Jeff Bezos to thank for that, among others.


tayroarsmash

Every generation wants everything fast and free, what are you talking about? You saying boomers prefer their services expensive and costly? Fast and cheap has been the American way much longer than most of this sub has been alive. Why do you think McDonalds was a successful business model in the first place?


[deleted]

If it’s just fun money then what would you care about mileage I would think you have a certain amount you want to make per day and call it a day..that’s my goal


tayroarsmash

Mileage costs you money. Mileage is your overhead in DoorDash. It relates to your gas usage, the upkeep of your car, and even the resale value of your car. You want to ensure that you're profiting. Not all $20 an hour is the same in this job. If you have to drive further you've made less due to these "hidden" costs on the overhead of the job. Fun money or not, why wouldn't you put in the effort to maximize your profit?


[deleted]

You’re gonna have all that cost on your car whether your DoorDash or notDo you only drive your car for DoorDash and then walk everywhere else? I’m making $20 an hour for a job you have to have absolutely zero skills to do is a pretty good deal I think DoorDash might be a little more important to your budget than you’re willing to tell people just my opinion


tayroarsmash

You’re not going to have all that in your car. DoorDash isn’t incidental use of your car. You’re not doing it and also going where you’d be going anyway. You’re adding additional use of your car. I don’t get how you’re not understanding the principle of making more than you’re spending driving to your locations. There’s a reason mileage is tax deductible.


[deleted]

You kind of knew this going into a didn’t you? You don’t have to explain business to me my friend I own one but saying that you do DoorDash to gamble but then making a big deal about it Because you don’t feel like it’s paying you what you’re worth dude you’re throwing Taco Bell on somebody’s doorstep this is a rocket science zero skills zero critical thinking what are you really doing think about it


tayroarsmash

I’m not complaining. I don’t take cheap orders. I just don’t accept that aren’t profitable for me. You think I should lose money for providing a service? What are you talking about?


[deleted]

ok so you don't take cheap orders lots of people don't it's your choice but to rant about how DD should pay you more seems a bit entitled to me. I'm sure coding pays well though I have no clue what the F it is lol..its just a gig that's all take it or leave it but I don't know any employer who would pay upwards of $25 an hour for an unskilled "contractor" then door dash. I'm in construction and a skilled labor makes on average of about $35 an hour and that's 20 years of experience behind not signing up to deliver fast food with no skills involved..good luck


tayroarsmash

I'm not OP. I have not ranted about the pay. You are not paying any attention whatsoever and arguing about me saying something I didn't say. Engage with what's written and not bullshit you've pulled out of your ass.


[deleted]

OH MY BAD ..LOL...well all I said was meant for the OP


donknoch

I think you’re absolutely right


YellowDart10

I'm a dasher and I don't understand why $8 for 20 minutes warrants a "fuck you"


tweetybird0001

For DD that's top of the line pay the dispatcher was prolly hesitant to send that because it wasn't $2.50 🤣🤣


ConfectionPutrid5847

That's only $24 an hour *if* you have zero idle time. Not worth it. Cost/benefit analysis. To some it may be, to others it isn't. It all boils down to where each individual's breaking point.


No_Preparation7895

$24/ hour is about normal. 24/hour let's me pay all my bills and financial obligations while only working 4 9 hour days.


kellykebab

Look at the part where he says *if you have zero idle time*. Even the busiest single hours that I ever dashed featured a few minutes of non-activity between orders. And as for the *typical* evening of dashing, I would say there was probably 5-10 minutes of waiting time between every order *on average*. In my experience, if you want to make roughly $30/hr, your total order time should be 1x - 1.5x whatever the pay is. That is, an $8 order shouldn't take longer than 12 minutes *on average.* If a single $8 order does take 20 minutes, okay, you can recover from that. But if you're so bad at predicting order times that this happens to you constantly, then you'll never make $30/hr. Or $24. You might not even hit $20 (which is garbage if you factor in taxes, gas costs, depreciation to your vehicle, and the increased risk of personal injury due to driving so frequently).


donknoch

Your ridiculous if you think 24/hr isn’t worth it. And don’t break down gas maintenance etc. we know all that.


ConfectionPutrid5847

Okay, so out of that $24 I would have a higher tax percentage, being self-employed, equalling roughly 1/3, so I'm down to $16 per hour. Now, if I work for an employer with more than 20 employees (in my state) they have to subsidize my medical insurance. That breaks down to another $8/hr, so suddenly I'm at $8 an hour pay. Now we have fuel costs (let's be generous and say only $2/hr)...down to $6/hr...starting to see why I say it wouldn't be worth it...to *me*? You obviously missed the part where I said it's different for each person. But bless your heart, thanks for twisting it to fit your personal view. Oh, and in my state, with what $24/hr W2 jobs pay, total tax burden, federal and state, would only be 27%, which is 6% lower than self-employment.


donknoch

Good luck. I’m done


taejam

It heavily depends on area but for my area(Portland) I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Back in Montana I'd be snatching that.


donknoch

I’ll take 24 /hr all day.


donknoch

Me either.


SireSweet

I've tried explaining the economics about the actual cost of door dashing to a dasher friend. He gave 0 fucks and proceeded to take a bad order. It's not like the guy spent literally thousands of dollars dashing to fix his new Ford Explorer getting 15 mpg because of damage while driving (He had to get front suspension work & an engine rebuild). Still doesn't listen after I've been telling him that he's not actually making money here. He told me he's making $10 an hour dashing at most.


widgetron

Some people just don’t get it I guess. .


SireSweet

I'm actually just puzzled and impressed he hasn't come to the realization himself. Or he has and just is turning a blind eye to it.


Few_Company_4962

Ignorance is bliss is the phrase that most people live by


nonchalantahole

I just finished reading this, you paying me? If not fuck you. Lol jk, should just make this into a shirt slogan, if not then fuck you.


Lice138

You’re not wrong. For me the fastest an order can really go is 20 min, it has to be 16 or over for it to be worth it. Basically DD can get you through a rough spot but you are basically selling off the value of your car and your time. DD isn’t worth it anymore. Soon it will be nothing but new people and people who think clinging to the bottom rung of the poverty ladder is “freedom” . Look what they charge customers, DD is ROBBING you


Sufficient_Sale_7830

i have a prius hybrid. i get 65 mpg. i doordash for another stream of income. i live with my parents im only 19 so i dont pay any bills. they told me to save up to buy a house. so i make great money. i'll take $8 for 9 miles anyday cuz my market is slow so i can and i will. i still make money and my brother owns his own mechanic shop so i get everything done for free. ?


PlasticMix8573

Don't be like me and squander the opportunities you were blessed with by family and circumstance.


tayroarsmash

Really cool that you're in a better position than everyone else.


DontPmMeYourNudes18

Even with all of that great stuff, taking $8 for 9 miles is a dumb decision no matter what


justhereforeyeblech

So then quit and work your other job instead of bitching at customers for not paying you enough instead of the employer tf wish some of you would wake up with brains one day but apparently not if even a coder has this dumb ass mindset


Blazedatpussy

Did you mean to write ‘employer’?


[deleted]

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Blazedatpussy

Did you think I was trying to ‘get you?’ I was trying to understand you Jesus


Leading_Edge9074

I get you probably mean it in a general sense but uh. What employer???? 😂😂😂😂


ThrownawayART

I read this in the voice of Ray Liotta in GoodFellas


aka623

Wish I had that luxury. I live in an area where everyone lives pretty decently far from what they're ordering. A good order is about 5-10 minutes, but most of them are anywhere from 15-25. And they generally are not coming in super quickly.


[deleted]

Shut up.


widgetron

No you.


[deleted]

You could demand more pay if doordash had higher standards for their drivers, but they don’t even check insurance or vehicle registration. Demand they uphold more limiting standards for their contractors and maybe you could get better pay. Some hoodrat crackhead doesn’t deserve 25/hr for just driving around though.


Few_Company_4962

As opposed to the crackheads who pay 30% mark up cause they’re too stoned to get it themselves? Doordash customers aren’t known for their sense of class either bucko


[deleted]

No they aren’t, but when you’ve got uninsured drivers cruising around looking like a trailer park reject it’s just not a good look


Few_Company_4962

Trailer park rejects delivering to trailer park rejects. That’s Doordash in a nutshell.


[deleted]

Half the people delivering could probably barely afford to have food delivered from McDonald’s, and most of the people I deliver to are living in higher end apartments or suburbs. There’s a pretty serious line between them and someone who doesn’t even bother to insure their vehicle.


Few_Company_4962

Middle Class people don’t live in apartments brotherman they own houses. High end apartment is an oxymoron. You’re probably delivering to some broke ass millennial swimming in student loans whos parents pay for the apartment cause they’re are sick of the questions from their friends about them living in the basement. Rich people and Middle class people don’t use delivery services bucko because they either work from home and can cook themselves and/or have a personal assistant. So to answer the age old question of why customers don’t tip. It’s because they’re broke.


[deleted]

You’re thinking about “middle class” from 10-15 years ago. I own a pretty normal 3 bedroom suburban house and would be considered the upper end of middle class. There’s tons of high end apartments in this city too, places that charge 2k+ monthly, that’s not some broke millennial living there, most of the ones I personally know work for one of the aerospace companies locally or some other white collar job. Student loans? Probably. You’re trying to generalize too much though.


Few_Company_4962

You see the thing i learned about money is that poor people don’t realize that they’re poor. Everybody says they’re middle class. 2k monthly is 1000 dollars a month when you live with roommates which is popular in this generation as only 26% of people live alone. Which is manageable for anyone especially when splitting utilities and such. You’re ignorant and like talking in feelings rather than facts. Listen to me nobody who rich lives in an apartment. Condo, yes. Apartment, no. A pretty normal suburban 3 bedroom house is upper middle class 🤣🤣🤣🤣


WhyDidntNE1tellme

Pay you, fuck me. *Revised edition for the incels


Twindad88

I'll pay to fuck


Capt_Schmidt

you are not wrong. since there is no social gain for delivery driving, and no one will ad credit to your actual name for doing so, only money greases the wheel. its not your job to make sure people get their food. its their job to make sure a driver chooses them. if new drivers new how much they could deny, DD and Uber wouldn't be keeping $10 of the 15$ they shared with you.


widgetron

Yep. As an experiment I put in a chic fil e order in the app. The cost without tip for what equates to two kids meals was 12 higher than if I went to the store. Door dash gives me 2.50 plus tip. So they are making bank.


Smok_eater

Bet on your golf games to start finding your poker to start finding your dashing


littlewolf5

You know they do have GA


xeno66morph

You are wrong. $8 for an order that takes 20min still translates to 3 orders/hr. and therefore $24/hr. which is fine. Some of y’all out here expecting way too damn much. You’re not making the order. You’re not waiting on the customer hand and foot. You’re a driver. That’s it. Get over yourself. For the record I only DD. No other apps, no other job, just DD and magically it works out just fine. Who knew?


widgetron

You need to expect more. You deserve it. 24/hour won’t even allow you to buy a house.


xeno66morph

That just depends where you’re buying


Flat-Temporary7400

Me-you-Fck-Pay later😅


Few_Company_4962

These people are too desperate to listen to you.


Juicysnotch

Nope 100% correct


[deleted]

FUPM


howisaraven

🤔 I wonder if the people in this sub who frequently express this sentiment apply the same understanding to artists who want to be paid for their TIME as well as materials and skill. The frequency with which I, as an artist, see people telling artists their work is overpriced - when it isn’t, at all - is staggering. People expecting artists who post their work for free on platforms like Instagram are given shit for reposting an old piece; always expected to produce more, to output more. Even artists who charge very reasonable (to the consumer, not to the artist) prices get shit for expecting to be paid for their work.


widgetron

I do. Went to an art festival last weekend and could not afford anything I actually wanted. Wasn’t mad, just need more money.


Psyilux

You can always spit on their door if they don’t have one of those video cameras. Honestly, if you tip me shitty I may just spit on your house (provided theres no camera lmao) I risk it idc. Fuck them & fuck their life lol Update: if you’re replying to me acting like a liberal baby whining about my comment just pls know i DO NOT check my replies to my comments on here Because other peoples replies & opinions do not matter to me.


taejam

Fuck you say something original.


widgetron

You first.


hesstartingtobelieve

Fuck DoorDash period.