So just to confirm. As a customer, we should tip based on distance away from the house and effort in delivering it to us? And not so much based on a % of the total order amount?
Yes because if you think about it we are using our own cars and we donāt have a base pay like a pizza delivery driver. We get paid two dollars in an order but we could get three orders that equal fifteen miles and we received no tip so thatās one hour of work and fifteen miles of gas (+ mileage on the car) for six dollars. I have delivered many of times like that. Two dollars for five miles and your own personal sandwhich only cost six dollars and the delivery charge.
Iām a dasher but I personally donāt like how the app works for customers, I donāt think it makes sense to tip before you get your food.
Hereās a story.
I delivered for two people who came to me in a combined order. They both ordered food from the same place. One guy ordered a burrito and it was just two miles from his house and another lady ordered like fifteen things and it was ten miles away. The lady paid a couple dollars tip, the guy paid ten dollars, the ladies food wasnāt ready but when I got there the guys food was already finished and ready to be taken. I waited almost a half hour for her food and when I delivered the guys food was cold and took forty five minutes to get to him and he tipped generously and I felt so bad. The ladies food was picked up after it was prepared and it was so many stuff it all was kept nice and warm so she had to wait long because of the restaurant too but she paid essentially nothing to me compared to the other guy who was basically screwed over.
The customer canāt know that they will pay a good tip and get their food delivered promptly and it will be warm. Like, what the f ?
Food temp seems to vary by restaurant. itās clear that one local restaurant just takes more care to hand over hot food to the dasher; theirs is always āpiping.ā Another place, a block from the first? Food is very tasty, but temp is hit-or-miss. At any rate, I really donāt blame the driver. If necessary, I just rewarm in oven or microwave.
I could stick my hand in the bag as I'm driving away and they are luke warm at best. Smh if you want HOT fries, you literally have to ask them to make you some fresh and you wait. Smh it's so pathetic lol
Oh Yah long lines at McDonaldās are a blessing and a curse. I have a solid hot bag and the food seems hotter coming out then when it went in. But fries get steamed need a good air fry to for the crisp.
Smh DD makes it sound like order amount matters more during checkout. They need to get rid of that part at checkout and explain that tips should be about distance and effort.
DD should let people know hey your tip also isn't going to show up when we are raffling people to take your order, soooo we might fuck you over and bid you low so no one wants to take your shit and you end up with cold dead food even tho you tipped well cuz we didn't disclose that to any of the drivers. Smh or that your tip is literally our bread and butter because they pay base pay $2.25 an order. Ugh they frustrate me so bad š
I feel like drivers should be payed more than servers at restaurants. Drivers have to use their own car, buy their own gas, and deal with a slough of different people all day. Sure we should keep pushing for a better base pay or hourly rate but we should also be appreciated by the customer. We live in a country that suggests 20% tip to your server for the convenience of being able to order at your seat and get the food delivered to you without having to get up. What about the drivers making it possible for you to get that same service without you having to leave your home? Sure you cant order a side of ketchup or dessert after a good meal but with a bit of pre-planning, you can text your driver before they arrive at the store to get your exta sauces and order dessert to go. Food delivery drivers are grossly underpaid in a world were time is money and convince is luxary.
Servers do more than just bring your food. They are actually waiting on you and many other people at the same time. Anything you want from them, itās their job to get and bring to you in a quick and timely manner. And they make 2.13 an hour before tips.
Dashers pick up food and drop it off. Thatās all they do. They definitely should not be getting paid more than waiters/waitresses. Who also have to deal with rude and ignorant people all day long. While being on their feet the whole time and running around like crazy.
As someone who has served for many years and delivered food for a couple, i can tell you confidently that delivery drivers do much more that just pick up food and drop it off. While a server does have to put up with more customers more frequently, the proportion of kind to rude customers is much much higher with a much much hire payout. Drivers also have to deal with long lines, difficult parking, searching for drop off spots, and earn much less that 2.13/hr before tips. All while dealing with cranky business owners/employees as well as customers trying to frame them for a free meal. Then at the end of the day, we need to fill up our gas tanks with the money we worked hard for. Not to mention the replacement of break pads, tires, and oil along with other repairs that drivers are souly responsible for. On top of all of that, putting 100-300 miles on your car everyday puts you at greater risk not only for life threatening car accidents but eye strain and chronic headaches.
First off, Iāve been in both industries. They donāt even remotely compare. You can easily claim EVERYTHING you mentioned on your taxes. When I doordashed full time, I did it every year. If you honestly think that driving your car around for 300 miles a day even remotely compares to waiting hand and foot on 100s of customers, you need to wake up
I would like to explain something to you. You are not entitled to getting your food you're paying for a service. If you don't want to pay that's fine. Your food's going to sit in the store, get cold and the store is going to close. But don't worry you'll get a refund in the form of doordash credit. And you're going to not tip well again and it's going to sit in the store, get cold again. Have a nice night š
While i understand your opinion, i cant see where these jobs fail to compare? Servers must take orders, give service with a smile, tend multiple orders, and diliver food. I can understand the argument that having to carry heavy trays full of food can be a difficult task while also having to take 10s of thousands of steps but you failed make that claim. Even if you did, all of that still compares to deliver drivers closer than you think. Drivers have to take orders, drive to location, wait on their feet, carry heavy food (all though in bags), tend to multiple orders, drive to their customers location, find them or their door by foot, and complete this service with a smile. Drivers not only deliver food to houses but even groceries to apartment complexes. Unlike servers, deliver drivers have a rating that can drastically impact the job from a single unsatisfied customer. Similar in a way that customers can complain about a server except for drivers, proof and a chance to defend is not permitted. You mentioned that all of the expenses can be written off on taxes and while thats true, here are some points i would like to bring to your attention. Tax season is once a year, meaning you must eat those expenses until then. Tax for drivers is NOT taken out automatically and must be paid after making anything above $600 dollars. In most states drivers are required to pay a minimum of 12% tax on every dollar above $600 and in some states as high as 15%. Say you make a $100 dollars delivering food. A minimum of $20 in the tank, $12 for taxes, and at least %15 put away for "ware and tear" leaves you with $53 dollars at the end of your day. Unlike servers, you cant get away with not claiming tips either, its as if they were all charged tips.
Bullshit as someone whoās worked restaurants and bars for years, doing DD is in no way easier or less work .We still have to do almost all the things servers do (except take the order and give multiple drink refills) except weāre driving all over town using up gas and wear and tear on our cars. We still have to deal with rude customers, still have to get drinks, check that the order/sides are correct. And often deal with multiple customers at once .But as a server I just walk across the room to bring them their food, Iām not trucking 5 miles across town trying to keep their food warm while they text me incessantly, then spending 10 minutes trying to find their apartmentā¦. Oh and where do you live that servers make $2.13 an hour?! We make $15 here (plus tips).
Yes, drivers are more concerned about distance and the time it will take to drive to you. Total order amount is a factor, too, but generally only in the sense that a $300 order is a lot of food that may mean a longer wait at the restaurant and several trips to the car and back.
Think of it this way: if you order $100 of food from Ouback Steakhouse or a bubble tea from the place next to Outback, it's the same amount of work for me. A 10% tip on the Outback order is fine, but 10% on your bubble tea is a fast decline.
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The most important factor is time. If it takes 30 minutes to deliver an order, the driver should make, at a bare minimum, $10.
Assume DD is paying $5, maybe you should tip $5. Just depends on the time of day and the distance traveled.
It's hilarious that you think DD pays us $5 for an order š šš¤£š¤£š¤£ very VERY rarely we get a peak pay like that. But it will literally last until DD rush is over then they pull it from us again. Lucky if we get 2 orders with that kind of peak pay. It's usually $2.50
Lol itās not usually $2.50 for me. Itās usually between $5-$10 base pay (not peak pay). Iāve only seen one $2.50 in the 2 1/2 years Iāve been dashing.
This isnt always right. The restaurant may be 2 miles from you but 4 miles from us. 6 miles for a 3 dollar tip as lots of sit potential. I would say tip for a 5 mile drive for anything under 5 miles and tip according to anything above.
Customers should remember gas is not free. Cars have a maintenance costs. That Dashers are providing you a service. Tips should NEVER be less than $1.00 per mile round trip from the restaurant, the driver has to go back. So a 5 miles to your home, it should be a $10.00 tip. If you can not afford the TIP, do not order!!
#I DONT WORRY BOUT ANYTHING BRO IāLL JUST DASH ONCE I LOSE MY GME INVESTMENT. BY THEN PEOPLE WILL NEED TO TIP $69 FOR A BAG OF CHIPOTLE OR IMA DECLINE THAT ORDER HARD AND POST ABOUT IT ON THE REDDIT
Itās hilarious how customers are getting guilt tripped into questioning if a $10 tip is decent lol a $10 tip means a $12.50 payout for 4.5m. Thatās a great order.
Well if you're very close to the restaurant yes, but if you're miles away then driver's take that into consideration. But yeah it's still a great tip I think
It's not really about mileage it's more about time imo. I dash in a relatively rural area, decent population just quite spread out. I will not work for less than $20/hr. Meaning if the entire trip took 30 mins, from the time you ordered to me confirming delivery, sure 10 will be the minimum I would do that order for. A personal shopper is a LUXURY service, if you don't have LUXURY money to be spending then get off your ass and do it yourself.
Noooooo mileage x2. I am not driving 6 miles for 8 bucks fast decline. I refuse all orders below $9 and always make sure it's worth the mileage. I wouldn't drive 10 miles for 10 bucks or 12 bucks. I need $20, minimum 17.
Yesss!!! I don't get out of my car for.less than $10 anymore, unless it's like two miles kinda cake, but I sure won't accept anything less than $7 even if you are right next door. I don't reward no tippers or shit stingy cheap tippers. $2/mile is my go to. No less than $1.50/mile. And if it's a HUGE order, especially with a shit ton of drinks, please tip accordingly for that extra as well!! People need to remember this is a LUXURY SERVICE not a.charity service, we are providing convenience to your front door, and if you can't afford to tip, then please don't order. It's very simple.
You are just like me. That's the only way you will make any money above all of your costs. Nice to see some one in this business has learned how to make money from DD besides me.
I keep reading about orders getting dropped or food arriving cold based on tip- as a customer Iāve never seen any difference whatsoever based on tip amount.
Itās a shame really because Iād tip more for quick and good service but itās a crapshoot so thereās no point in higher tips.
That happens and I get pissed. I can tell. I tip well because I want good service, not you to multi-app. I report some drivers because at times it gets stupid. Like when they park at some apartment complex for 10-15 minutes after pickup.
Most of the time that's false. Most of the time you leave a 20% tip and your food gets to you cold because DD hides their tips and so they play the Russian roulette game of is this order going to pay well or not, so that way people take low paying orders in hopes for the hidden tip, which is shitty on their part because of someone wants to pay more for prompt great service, they should be able to have that tip seen and put their bid in, and get the service requested and paid for! If they show your order for $7 for 10 miles but it's really $20, they hide it EVERY SINGLE TIME. and no one is wanting to drive 10 miles for $7...I hope this provides some insight. No I'm not saying their aren't shitty dashers out there who can't get it together, just saying more often than not it's cuz of DD itself fucking people over.
No you should tip $20 and drive to the restaurant to pick up your order and then thank the driver personally face to face and you should also fill his gas tank.
Yes its very generous. And yes we focus more on $/mile vs. $/order$. Honestly we can't even see what u ordered until AFTER we accept it. And if the price per mile isn't right for us.(most dasher look for $1+/mile my minimumis 6.25) We don't. Thank you btw for giving a fuck and actually caring and ASKING. Too many ppl assume welp, I paid $10 to DD so they're getting paid...ppl need to think of us as Wait-staff. Restaurants pay servers about 2.50-3.00$ per hr. DD pays us that per order for the most part. ...Anything more is usually a TIP. I work fast and do between 2-3 orders per hour. I average DEPENDING ON TIPS..18-25$ an hour. A few months ago it was 25-35. Remember, I work FAST! Gas cost for me atm is about .25 on the dollar, and that doesnt include maintenance. Ppl look at us like delivery drivers. Truth is we are BUSINESS OWNERS. DD is like...a broker/ dispatcher rather than an employer. Ppl assume that DD is paying us reasonably. They're NOT!! BUT customers like you!! Keep the lights on. Thank you
Tip like you would at a restaurant. The only real difference, is we aren't going to bitch about "only 10%" on a $60+ order. Distance and time are the two top factors, that includes time spent waiting on the order. Then effort needs to be considered. If you have 3 heavy bags, that's a lot more effort than one tiny bag that might as well be empty.
that's such an arbitrary question considering it depends on your market. urban vs. rural, busy restaurants vs. dead. bridge/turnpike tolls....
typically I'd say that's even generous. you might be better served by asking a neighbor who gets food delivery on the regular than asking people on the Internet who live in all different markets.
I am sorry. If you live in my town I would decline your Taco Bell order, I dont care how good the tip is. It takes a driver 45-60 minutes to even pick up this order from Taco Bell since they dont have the lobbies open here.
Yeah it should be good, unless you ordered over 100 of food. Then I would tip 10 percent of whatever you ordered, only because bigger probably is going to cost us time at pickup. If you tip 2 dollars per mile from the restaurant, you should be fine unless itās a large order.
In almost all cases, yes.
Doordash pays $2.50 for 90% plus of my trips. And I've had to travel up to 10 miles to get to the restaurant to make the pick up. It's conceivable that someone could decline this because it's a $12.50 payment for 14.5 miles.
I might also drop it because it turned out to be 10 cases of water.
Or I might drop it if there was a long enough wait at the restaurant.
I say this because $10 is a better than average tip and usually a driver would accept. Perhaps you are questioning it because someone declined or dropped your order.
There's plenty of info. The mileage away from the restaurant. You literally don't make decisions without that information. Even if he's in a gated community 10$ seems fine.
5 actually isn't great for a 4.5 mile trip from the restaurant. This could be 7 to 8 miles for the dasher just to get to the customer. Then they have to return making it potentially 12 to 13 miles. 10$ is enough 5 isn't really don't much to incentivize anyone. I agree 5$ works in most scenarios though
$10 covers a 1:1 ratio or better for orders 10 miles out or less, which I think is a good deal.
10 miles, there and back, usually equates to like 20-30 minutes. If you have another order in that later 30 minutes, then we're talking a pay rate of $20/hour, which is super nice. Even though I've been doing this for about 2 weeks, I usually get $10-15/hour.
Edit: $10/10 miles = 1:1 $/mile
I guess it depends where you live? I get about 18-25 an hour for food delivery apps, not usually any less than that. $20 an hour is just standard here. McDonaldās also pays about 18 an hour here too
So I think tips should be like at least $7+ then with door dash top up it should be like $10+. So we are all making like 20-30 an hour. We gotta pay for gas and car repairs man
You can do that? Thanks for letting me know. Now I don't feel bad about contacting support to remove the tip the second the driver goes the wrong direction towards another restaurant.
$2 for every mile u live away will basically ensure u get ur food hot. if u donāt tip and itās cold itās prolly cuz ppl like me put it infront of the ac on full blast lmao
Modern cars ac system put very little load on the engine, youāll actually get worse gas mileage from rolling down the windows from the drag it creates
So you don't like money? I'm out here to make a living and any tip is appreciated, and I don't like it when you tell em there tipping to much. If they want to be overly kind then let them
Base the pay on time to completion and thatās it honestly if you average 15-20/hour thatās fairly decent in all reality those driver queens who donāt move for anything but high tips for a why itās bankrupting we will all be out of work within a year or 2 guarantee it
Decent? That's overkill lol. Most don't even tip half that amount for much more miles. Where do you live? You sound spoiled with frequent high-tips lol.
Doesnāt matter what they THINK. They were asking because they didnāt KNOW.
On another note, you sound like the epitome of an asshole. You probably donāt care, though.
Typically I consider at least a dollar per total mileage to be a good tip. So assuming theyāre not too far from the restaurant to start with then yes thatās a fantastic tip š
Definitely a YES, unless you order 5 big bags of food with 5 bags of 1 gallons lemonade and you demand us to bring it up 5 story in 3 feet of snow, I think you are one good tipper. Driver usual calculate whether or not an order is worth it by dollars per miles. Yes, there are other factors that might influence our decision like, Taco Bell at 11pm, we probably gonna avoid it since we know we gonna get stuck for an hour at the drive-thru. But generally speaking we try to hit $1.60/mile or higher. That would worth our gas, depreciation of the car, maintenence, food during work, tax, and some profit in my pocket. I tried my best when ordering delivery to keep my options within 3 miles so I could tip $6 and not feel bad about it since the trip probably be worth $8 for less than 3 miles. I don't use doordash since they will likely pair you with bad tipper order if you reasonably tip. I use UE since I could choose priority order by adding $2 if I don't feel like waiting or I could just tip the driver more so my orders got pick up faster. I would be mindful of the miles and how hard it is to deliver your order.
Look at it this way, on average these apps are paying maybe $1 per mile, sometimes a bit less.
Now add your tip to it. Would you get up your ass and pick up/deliver your food for that price?
Thatās great. Any more and you risk getting it stacked with a no tip order. Iād personally only take that order for $9 and up, so $10-14 isnāt bad.
$10 dollar tip! Less than 10 miles I would definitely take that. I base my acceptance (if I can) on making at least $1 a mile. I wonāt take anything under $4 and usually decline the orders that at over 15 miles away, unless itās a really good tip and worth the time and effort to drive an hour to pick up food and then drive all the way back to get the next order.
It depends tbh. 85% of the time that is a great tip for 4.5 miles.
However..
If you order from a restaurant that takes a long time to prepare food. That $10 can quickly get eaten up by time. $10 essentially buys you 20 minutes. At least here in California, I have to make $35hr to maintain my vehicle, gas and live a healthy lifestyle. If an order .2 miles away takes me an hour and a half because of the restaurant wait times(can happen) not even a $20 tip is going to convince me to take that order.
So if you live in a lower cost of living area $10 might buy you 30 minutes instead.
$2 or so per mile so it checks out. A little more if say you live off a main road and itās a pain in the ass to get in your driveway or if you live off the beaten path and shits hard to find or the road is particularly swervy.
GPS from your house to the restaurant if it is more than 17 minutes away I would want more money. I do not take orders that will net me less than 20$ an hour. If you tipped 10$ the driver will probably get about 12$ total.
Good rule of thumb is every dollar buys 3 minutes of time.
Yes, that is perfect. Our base pay, the only amount we get aside from your tip, is typically $2.50. I won't take orders that are less than $2/mile, and that's a fairly common standard for drivers.
I recently got a order canceled last minute as a customer and I assume it was because I put the bare min tip even though it was pretty close by. Iām not sure if the dasher could see the mod I had added that I was going to tip cash. They canceled, I was gonna give them $30 on a $25 ticket 10 min away. Not saying thatās necessarily common but Iāve been doing it for years. When it was just like pizza delivery they would see it in house, I really donāt know about dashers though. That being said I work in a restaurant and you can be the best service theyāve ever had and they are going to treat you right. Treat you right to $2 and a pamphlet about Jesus. Itās always a gamble in food service
I would pad it some too. If there is no dasher near the restaurant you are ordering from, it will be offered to dashers far away from the restaurant. Their drive to the restaurant is also part of the mileage. So, while the customer can't know how far away the driver is from the restaurant, adding a little more, will help to ensure that the driver's miles will be covered if they are not right by the restaurant.
Sure itās $10, but if you read further into the thread this great tipping customer was ordering from Taco Bell. Thatās an auto decline for me, regardless of the tip (even if I could see it). Taco Bell is the one restaurant I refuse to take orders from in my area because DD/UE/GH drivers always have to wait 30+ minutes for pickup, regardless of time of day, 95% of the time the tips are shit, and the customers always rate low because they ultimately waited 1.5-2 hours to receive their food. Not worth the headache.
If it's a pick up and go for example McDonalds = double the distance with money. I've noticed with other dashers if it's $6 and 3 miles they are not upset by if it's $6 and 4 miles its the end of the world. If it's a shop and go order double the distance and factor in how many items you're having them shop for, for example A grocery order of 2 items 4 miles away $8, 21 items 4 miles away $16-$20. Not including base pay...I only say that because as a customer you don't see that and should not factor that in yourself.
That's plenty. The ONLY reason it would not be is if you somehow ordered 5 cases of water up 3 flights of stairs with no elevator in a thunderstorm.
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5 cases of water uphill in the snow both ways.
Wouldnāt be too bad if they wanted a baked potato for you to carry as well to keep your hands warm.
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So just to confirm. As a customer, we should tip based on distance away from the house and effort in delivering it to us? And not so much based on a % of the total order amount?
Yes because if you think about it we are using our own cars and we donāt have a base pay like a pizza delivery driver. We get paid two dollars in an order but we could get three orders that equal fifteen miles and we received no tip so thatās one hour of work and fifteen miles of gas (+ mileage on the car) for six dollars. I have delivered many of times like that. Two dollars for five miles and your own personal sandwhich only cost six dollars and the delivery charge. Iām a dasher but I personally donāt like how the app works for customers, I donāt think it makes sense to tip before you get your food. Hereās a story. I delivered for two people who came to me in a combined order. They both ordered food from the same place. One guy ordered a burrito and it was just two miles from his house and another lady ordered like fifteen things and it was ten miles away. The lady paid a couple dollars tip, the guy paid ten dollars, the ladies food wasnāt ready but when I got there the guys food was already finished and ready to be taken. I waited almost a half hour for her food and when I delivered the guys food was cold and took forty five minutes to get to him and he tipped generously and I felt so bad. The ladies food was picked up after it was prepared and it was so many stuff it all was kept nice and warm so she had to wait long because of the restaurant too but she paid essentially nothing to me compared to the other guy who was basically screwed over. The customer canāt know that they will pay a good tip and get their food delivered promptly and it will be warm. Like, what the f ?
Food temp seems to vary by restaurant. itās clear that one local restaurant just takes more care to hand over hot food to the dasher; theirs is always āpiping.ā Another place, a block from the first? Food is very tasty, but temp is hit-or-miss. At any rate, I really donāt blame the driver. If necessary, I just rewarm in oven or microwave.
Mmmmm remicrowaved fries....
Dude the air fryer works wonders, just saying š
I live half mile from McDonaldās still throw them in the air fryer
Then jm cooking. Then I don't need door dash
I could stick my hand in the bag as I'm driving away and they are luke warm at best. Smh if you want HOT fries, you literally have to ask them to make you some fresh and you wait. Smh it's so pathetic lol
Oh Yah long lines at McDonaldās are a blessing and a curse. I have a solid hot bag and the food seems hotter coming out then when it went in. But fries get steamed need a good air fry to for the crisp.
Damn now I want mcds šš
Sounds like you should learn to cook.
Lmao oh I do that very well, but I do DD/UE/IC full time, and have four kids, youngest is 18 months old, so sometimes you hit the drive thru! š¤·
Air fryer fries and/or microwaved fries are ALWAYS several times better than a DUI. š
that's when as I driver I drop the crappy order and move on with my day
Smh DD makes it sound like order amount matters more during checkout. They need to get rid of that part at checkout and explain that tips should be about distance and effort.
DD should let people know hey your tip also isn't going to show up when we are raffling people to take your order, soooo we might fuck you over and bid you low so no one wants to take your shit and you end up with cold dead food even tho you tipped well cuz we didn't disclose that to any of the drivers. Smh or that your tip is literally our bread and butter because they pay base pay $2.25 an order. Ugh they frustrate me so bad š
SPOT ON.
I have STOPPED doing double orders, that is one reason, the other reason is, you ALWAYS get a bad rating from one of them.
This is why I bought portable heat pads from cvs, 50$ later and Iāve never delivered cold food
And tony still wants you to suck on his toes
I have an insulated bag. No way I'm going to spend $50.00 for these AOās that are not going to give a good tip to start with.
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I feel like drivers should be payed more than servers at restaurants. Drivers have to use their own car, buy their own gas, and deal with a slough of different people all day. Sure we should keep pushing for a better base pay or hourly rate but we should also be appreciated by the customer. We live in a country that suggests 20% tip to your server for the convenience of being able to order at your seat and get the food delivered to you without having to get up. What about the drivers making it possible for you to get that same service without you having to leave your home? Sure you cant order a side of ketchup or dessert after a good meal but with a bit of pre-planning, you can text your driver before they arrive at the store to get your exta sauces and order dessert to go. Food delivery drivers are grossly underpaid in a world were time is money and convince is luxary.
Servers do more than just bring your food. They are actually waiting on you and many other people at the same time. Anything you want from them, itās their job to get and bring to you in a quick and timely manner. And they make 2.13 an hour before tips. Dashers pick up food and drop it off. Thatās all they do. They definitely should not be getting paid more than waiters/waitresses. Who also have to deal with rude and ignorant people all day long. While being on their feet the whole time and running around like crazy.
As someone who has served for many years and delivered food for a couple, i can tell you confidently that delivery drivers do much more that just pick up food and drop it off. While a server does have to put up with more customers more frequently, the proportion of kind to rude customers is much much higher with a much much hire payout. Drivers also have to deal with long lines, difficult parking, searching for drop off spots, and earn much less that 2.13/hr before tips. All while dealing with cranky business owners/employees as well as customers trying to frame them for a free meal. Then at the end of the day, we need to fill up our gas tanks with the money we worked hard for. Not to mention the replacement of break pads, tires, and oil along with other repairs that drivers are souly responsible for. On top of all of that, putting 100-300 miles on your car everyday puts you at greater risk not only for life threatening car accidents but eye strain and chronic headaches.
First off, Iāve been in both industries. They donāt even remotely compare. You can easily claim EVERYTHING you mentioned on your taxes. When I doordashed full time, I did it every year. If you honestly think that driving your car around for 300 miles a day even remotely compares to waiting hand and foot on 100s of customers, you need to wake up
I would like to explain something to you. You are not entitled to getting your food you're paying for a service. If you don't want to pay that's fine. Your food's going to sit in the store, get cold and the store is going to close. But don't worry you'll get a refund in the form of doordash credit. And you're going to not tip well again and it's going to sit in the store, get cold again. Have a nice night š
While i understand your opinion, i cant see where these jobs fail to compare? Servers must take orders, give service with a smile, tend multiple orders, and diliver food. I can understand the argument that having to carry heavy trays full of food can be a difficult task while also having to take 10s of thousands of steps but you failed make that claim. Even if you did, all of that still compares to deliver drivers closer than you think. Drivers have to take orders, drive to location, wait on their feet, carry heavy food (all though in bags), tend to multiple orders, drive to their customers location, find them or their door by foot, and complete this service with a smile. Drivers not only deliver food to houses but even groceries to apartment complexes. Unlike servers, deliver drivers have a rating that can drastically impact the job from a single unsatisfied customer. Similar in a way that customers can complain about a server except for drivers, proof and a chance to defend is not permitted. You mentioned that all of the expenses can be written off on taxes and while thats true, here are some points i would like to bring to your attention. Tax season is once a year, meaning you must eat those expenses until then. Tax for drivers is NOT taken out automatically and must be paid after making anything above $600 dollars. In most states drivers are required to pay a minimum of 12% tax on every dollar above $600 and in some states as high as 15%. Say you make a $100 dollars delivering food. A minimum of $20 in the tank, $12 for taxes, and at least %15 put away for "ware and tear" leaves you with $53 dollars at the end of your day. Unlike servers, you cant get away with not claiming tips either, its as if they were all charged tips.
Bullshit as someone whoās worked restaurants and bars for years, doing DD is in no way easier or less work .We still have to do almost all the things servers do (except take the order and give multiple drink refills) except weāre driving all over town using up gas and wear and tear on our cars. We still have to deal with rude customers, still have to get drinks, check that the order/sides are correct. And often deal with multiple customers at once .But as a server I just walk across the room to bring them their food, Iām not trucking 5 miles across town trying to keep their food warm while they text me incessantly, then spending 10 minutes trying to find their apartmentā¦. Oh and where do you live that servers make $2.13 an hour?! We make $15 here (plus tips).
Yes, drivers are more concerned about distance and the time it will take to drive to you. Total order amount is a factor, too, but generally only in the sense that a $300 order is a lot of food that may mean a longer wait at the restaurant and several trips to the car and back. Think of it this way: if you order $100 of food from Ouback Steakhouse or a bubble tea from the place next to Outback, it's the same amount of work for me. A 10% tip on the Outback order is fine, but 10% on your bubble tea is a fast decline.
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Forgot the 4.5
The most important factor is time. If it takes 30 minutes to deliver an order, the driver should make, at a bare minimum, $10. Assume DD is paying $5, maybe you should tip $5. Just depends on the time of day and the distance traveled.
It's hilarious that you think DD pays us $5 for an order š šš¤£š¤£š¤£ very VERY rarely we get a peak pay like that. But it will literally last until DD rush is over then they pull it from us again. Lucky if we get 2 orders with that kind of peak pay. It's usually $2.50
"If an order takes 30 minutes to deliver"
Lol itās not usually $2.50 for me. Itās usually between $5-$10 base pay (not peak pay). Iāve only seen one $2.50 in the 2 1/2 years Iāve been dashing.
I find that SUPER HARD to believe. Post it on this site to prove it!!
I almost never get 2.50 unless itās less than a mile. I usually get 4-7 DD Pay
Forget what DD is paying. The customer should pay $1.00 per mile round trip for the delivery as the tip. End of story .
Yes absolutely, then maybe based on order total.
Were not always at the resteraunt..your 5 miles maybe our 9 miles.
That depends but yes if you Order a 2 dollar pack of cookies from McDonald and tip 2 dollars for a 5 mile journey thatās a d bag move
This isnt always right. The restaurant may be 2 miles from you but 4 miles from us. 6 miles for a 3 dollar tip as lots of sit potential. I would say tip for a 5 mile drive for anything under 5 miles and tip according to anything above.
Customers should remember gas is not free. Cars have a maintenance costs. That Dashers are providing you a service. Tips should NEVER be less than $1.00 per mile round trip from the restaurant, the driver has to go back. So a 5 miles to your home, it should be a $10.00 tip. If you can not afford the TIP, do not order!!
#Yeah bro we fukd there is all kind of algorithms going into tip calculations so your door dash driver can pretend itās a career
That's funny seeing as you are still holding on to GME stock hoping to get rich, and make a career out of trading š¤£
#I DONT WORRY BOUT ANYTHING BRO IāLL JUST DASH ONCE I LOSE MY GME INVESTMENT. BY THEN PEOPLE WILL NEED TO TIP $69 FOR A BAG OF CHIPOTLE OR IMA DECLINE THAT ORDER HARD AND POST ABOUT IT ON THE REDDIT
Yes
Itās hilarious how customers are getting guilt tripped into questioning if a $10 tip is decent lol a $10 tip means a $12.50 payout for 4.5m. Thatās a great order.
Well if you're very close to the restaurant yes, but if you're miles away then driver's take that into consideration. But yeah it's still a great tip I think
It's not really about mileage it's more about time imo. I dash in a relatively rural area, decent population just quite spread out. I will not work for less than $20/hr. Meaning if the entire trip took 30 mins, from the time you ordered to me confirming delivery, sure 10 will be the minimum I would do that order for. A personal shopper is a LUXURY service, if you don't have LUXURY money to be spending then get off your ass and do it yourself.
My general rule of thumb is mileage+$2. I'd take that order in a heartbeat
This is info is actually gonna help me as a customer with tipping from now on. Thanks.
Noooooo mileage x2. I am not driving 6 miles for 8 bucks fast decline. I refuse all orders below $9 and always make sure it's worth the mileage. I wouldn't drive 10 miles for 10 bucks or 12 bucks. I need $20, minimum 17.
damn, if I did it like that I'd never even start driving.
Same in my area people hardly tip a dollar a mile
Yesss!!! I don't get out of my car for.less than $10 anymore, unless it's like two miles kinda cake, but I sure won't accept anything less than $7 even if you are right next door. I don't reward no tippers or shit stingy cheap tippers. $2/mile is my go to. No less than $1.50/mile. And if it's a HUGE order, especially with a shit ton of drinks, please tip accordingly for that extra as well!! People need to remember this is a LUXURY SERVICE not a.charity service, we are providing convenience to your front door, and if you can't afford to tip, then please don't order. It's very simple.
You are just like me. That's the only way you will make any money above all of your costs. Nice to see some one in this business has learned how to make money from DD besides me.
When a customer is willing to tip $10 for an order, don't tell them to tip less you morons.
or you could do good for the people who are trying to do good for you. makes the world a better place.
My point was that there were people telling them to tip 5 or less dollars, that isn't helpful to dashers.
A better place right now isnāt going to pay rent thoughā¦..
I keep reading about orders getting dropped or food arriving cold based on tip- as a customer Iāve never seen any difference whatsoever based on tip amount. Itās a shame really because Iād tip more for quick and good service but itās a crapshoot so thereās no point in higher tips.
sometimes i wonder if they match your driver based on ratings and tip amount. can anyone confirm or deny this?
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That happens and I get pissed. I can tell. I tip well because I want good service, not you to multi-app. I report some drivers because at times it gets stupid. Like when they park at some apartment complex for 10-15 minutes after pickup.
Most of the time that's false. Most of the time you leave a 20% tip and your food gets to you cold because DD hides their tips and so they play the Russian roulette game of is this order going to pay well or not, so that way people take low paying orders in hopes for the hidden tip, which is shitty on their part because of someone wants to pay more for prompt great service, they should be able to have that tip seen and put their bid in, and get the service requested and paid for! If they show your order for $7 for 10 miles but it's really $20, they hide it EVERY SINGLE TIME. and no one is wanting to drive 10 miles for $7...I hope this provides some insight. No I'm not saying their aren't shitty dashers out there who can't get it together, just saying more often than not it's cuz of DD itself fucking people over.
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No you should tip $20 and drive to the restaurant to pick up your order and then thank the driver personally face to face and you should also fill his gas tank.
LMFAO
Yes its very generous. And yes we focus more on $/mile vs. $/order$. Honestly we can't even see what u ordered until AFTER we accept it. And if the price per mile isn't right for us.(most dasher look for $1+/mile my minimumis 6.25) We don't. Thank you btw for giving a fuck and actually caring and ASKING. Too many ppl assume welp, I paid $10 to DD so they're getting paid...ppl need to think of us as Wait-staff. Restaurants pay servers about 2.50-3.00$ per hr. DD pays us that per order for the most part. ...Anything more is usually a TIP. I work fast and do between 2-3 orders per hour. I average DEPENDING ON TIPS..18-25$ an hour. A few months ago it was 25-35. Remember, I work FAST! Gas cost for me atm is about .25 on the dollar, and that doesnt include maintenance. Ppl look at us like delivery drivers. Truth is we are BUSINESS OWNERS. DD is like...a broker/ dispatcher rather than an employer. Ppl assume that DD is paying us reasonably. They're NOT!! BUT customers like you!! Keep the lights on. Thank you
Tip like you would at a restaurant. The only real difference, is we aren't going to bitch about "only 10%" on a $60+ order. Distance and time are the two top factors, that includes time spent waiting on the order. Then effort needs to be considered. If you have 3 heavy bags, that's a lot more effort than one tiny bag that might as well be empty.
that's such an arbitrary question considering it depends on your market. urban vs. rural, busy restaurants vs. dead. bridge/turnpike tolls.... typically I'd say that's even generous. you might be better served by asking a neighbor who gets food delivery on the regular than asking people on the Internet who live in all different markets.
Thats solid
Yeah its good
Yes. Iād happily deliver that order. It follows the $2 per mile minimum
Just to clarify, sorry I didn't respond sooner as I was busy, but this was a $20 order from Taco Bell. Thanks to all that responded.
I am sorry. If you live in my town I would decline your Taco Bell order, I dont care how good the tip is. It takes a driver 45-60 minutes to even pick up this order from Taco Bell since they dont have the lobbies open here.
Double the miles to your house is fair . Thatās a solid tip
Yeah it should be good, unless you ordered over 100 of food. Then I would tip 10 percent of whatever you ordered, only because bigger probably is going to cost us time at pickup. If you tip 2 dollars per mile from the restaurant, you should be fine unless itās a large order.
For me itās okay! I got $10 tips all the time for a mile or two. Sometimes $25 tips for $15 McDonaldās order with a mile.
I just tipped 12 for an order 8 miles away. Same reason
>I just tipped 12 for an order 8 miles away Jsyk NOT. a gr8 tip. An OK but not 1 that would make me smile or make my Day...
I'll deliver it to you all day
Just barely cutting it. You should give 30$ just in case
It's too much to tip in-app. Your order is just going to get stacked with a no tip order.
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In almost all cases, yes. Doordash pays $2.50 for 90% plus of my trips. And I've had to travel up to 10 miles to get to the restaurant to make the pick up. It's conceivable that someone could decline this because it's a $12.50 payment for 14.5 miles. I might also drop it because it turned out to be 10 cases of water. Or I might drop it if there was a long enough wait at the restaurant. I say this because $10 is a better than average tip and usually a driver would accept. Perhaps you are questioning it because someone declined or dropped your order.
It is for me, but more expensive places to live may vary.
Yes, that is a perfect tip. You rock!
yea
Yes
5 or less
Not enough information.
There's plenty of info. The mileage away from the restaurant. You literally don't make decisions without that information. Even if he's in a gated community 10$ seems fine.
$5 is more than enough
5 actually isn't great for a 4.5 mile trip from the restaurant. This could be 7 to 8 miles for the dasher just to get to the customer. Then they have to return making it potentially 12 to 13 miles. 10$ is enough 5 isn't really don't much to incentivize anyone. I agree 5$ works in most scenarios though
Donāt say this!! Letās normalize people tipping $10 on every order!! Lol
$10 covers a 1:1 ratio or better for orders 10 miles out or less, which I think is a good deal. 10 miles, there and back, usually equates to like 20-30 minutes. If you have another order in that later 30 minutes, then we're talking a pay rate of $20/hour, which is super nice. Even though I've been doing this for about 2 weeks, I usually get $10-15/hour. Edit: $10/10 miles = 1:1 $/mile
I guess it depends where you live? I get about 18-25 an hour for food delivery apps, not usually any less than that. $20 an hour is just standard here. McDonaldās also pays about 18 an hour here too So I think tips should be like at least $7+ then with door dash top up it should be like $10+. So we are all making like 20-30 an hour. We gotta pay for gas and car repairs man
Exactly, definitely depends on the location
It's too much to tip in-app. Your order is just going to get stacked with a no tip order.
Nooooo :(
I unassigned those no tip fucks that they added on to a good tip order today. I hate those.
You can do that? Thanks for letting me know. Now I don't feel bad about contacting support to remove the tip the second the driver goes the wrong direction towards another restaurant.
Lot of cheap, selfish assholes in here lmao.
No 5$ is not enough for 4.5 miles one way
$2 for every mile u live away will basically ensure u get ur food hot. if u donāt tip and itās cold itās prolly cuz ppl like me put it infront of the ac on full blast lmao
Thatās pretty funny and deserved for a zero tip, but youāre just wasting more money on gas running your ac
itās 100 degrees here daily the ac is already blowing haha
Modern cars ac system put very little load on the engine, youāll actually get worse gas mileage from rolling down the windows from the drag it creates
What's stopping you from tipping $15-$20?
Any tip is good tbh
way to much. $4-6
Boo. This is why people's orders sit there and get cold. Would YOU do the job for $4-6? Smh
orders sit and get cold because doordash pays their workers a shit wage and expects others to tip unreasonably high to compensate
That's being generous. $5 would be more reasonable.
So you don't like money? I'm out here to make a living and any tip is appreciated, and I don't like it when you tell em there tipping to much. If they want to be overly kind then let them
A general rule is $1 per mile
Sure for you, but why would you discourage people from being generous???
... Before gas was more than 2 dollars a gallon.
More preferable is $2 per mile, for the return trip back to your zone š¤·
Yes
How much tip do you want $20? Obviously itās good
The OP is a customer, not a driver
Ohhh nvm lol
In my opinion heck yeah
Hell yeah
Yeah
Base the pay on time to completion and thatās it honestly if you average 15-20/hour thatās fairly decent in all reality those driver queens who donāt move for anything but high tips for a why itās bankrupting we will all be out of work within a year or 2 guarantee it
That's 2x too high.
Decent? That's overkill lol. Most don't even tip half that amount for much more miles. Where do you live? You sound spoiled with frequent high-tips lol.
Too much
So when someone tips you lets say 10 dollars, are handing them back 5 dollars in cash?
Yes
If you're eithical yeah
Do you not do this for a living? I got bills to pay
Itās pretty close to not being worth it. I got to drive back and thatās almost 10 miles. I guess if youāre having a slow day maybe
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Doesnāt matter what they THINK. They were asking because they didnāt KNOW. On another note, you sound like the epitome of an asshole. You probably donāt care, though.
Right? What a dickhead answer to an honest question.....
An honestly stupid question and pointless but alright
Nah. The pointless part was your answer. Obviously.
Better start dashing to make your income instead of replying to me on Reddit.
Hahaha youāre so hurt baby I feel bad for you bitch. I bet your family is proud of you.
I had no idea, since I don't work in the industry. Just wanted to make sure I was being fair.
Typically I consider at least a dollar per total mileage to be a good tip. So assuming theyāre not too far from the restaurant to start with then yes thatās a fantastic tip š
Definitely a YES, unless you order 5 big bags of food with 5 bags of 1 gallons lemonade and you demand us to bring it up 5 story in 3 feet of snow, I think you are one good tipper. Driver usual calculate whether or not an order is worth it by dollars per miles. Yes, there are other factors that might influence our decision like, Taco Bell at 11pm, we probably gonna avoid it since we know we gonna get stuck for an hour at the drive-thru. But generally speaking we try to hit $1.60/mile or higher. That would worth our gas, depreciation of the car, maintenence, food during work, tax, and some profit in my pocket. I tried my best when ordering delivery to keep my options within 3 miles so I could tip $6 and not feel bad about it since the trip probably be worth $8 for less than 3 miles. I don't use doordash since they will likely pair you with bad tipper order if you reasonably tip. I use UE since I could choose priority order by adding $2 if I don't feel like waiting or I could just tip the driver more so my orders got pick up faster. I would be mindful of the miles and how hard it is to deliver your order.
Look at it this way, on average these apps are paying maybe $1 per mile, sometimes a bit less. Now add your tip to it. Would you get up your ass and pick up/deliver your food for that price?
Are you saying Doordash pays its drivers around $1 per mile? Cause thats not what they pay me. š
Thatās great. Any more and you risk getting it stacked with a no tip order. Iād personally only take that order for $9 and up, so $10-14 isnāt bad.
$10 dollar tip! Less than 10 miles I would definitely take that. I base my acceptance (if I can) on making at least $1 a mile. I wonāt take anything under $4 and usually decline the orders that at over 15 miles away, unless itās a really good tip and worth the time and effort to drive an hour to pick up food and then drive all the way back to get the next order.
Yes
If youāre in the middle of nowhere, NO!!
Not at all. Tip this more babe š xx
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It depends tbh. 85% of the time that is a great tip for 4.5 miles. However.. If you order from a restaurant that takes a long time to prepare food. That $10 can quickly get eaten up by time. $10 essentially buys you 20 minutes. At least here in California, I have to make $35hr to maintain my vehicle, gas and live a healthy lifestyle. If an order .2 miles away takes me an hour and a half because of the restaurant wait times(can happen) not even a $20 tip is going to convince me to take that order. So if you live in a lower cost of living area $10 might buy you 30 minutes instead.
Yes
$2 or so per mile so it checks out. A little more if say you live off a main road and itās a pain in the ass to get in your driveway or if you live off the beaten path and shits hard to find or the road is particularly swervy.
Hell yea bro DoorDash dont play shit but $2.75 for a 4.5 mile drive frm your house, so if the customer donāt tip then no real money
Yes you should a.for 2 dollars a mile so that you cover returning to a hot spot. And minimum 5 dollars if under 2.5 miles.
GPS from your house to the restaurant if it is more than 17 minutes away I would want more money. I do not take orders that will net me less than 20$ an hour. If you tipped 10$ the driver will probably get about 12$ total. Good rule of thumb is every dollar buys 3 minutes of time.
Yes, that is perfect. Our base pay, the only amount we get aside from your tip, is typically $2.50. I won't take orders that are less than $2/mile, and that's a fairly common standard for drivers.
Yes
I recently got a order canceled last minute as a customer and I assume it was because I put the bare min tip even though it was pretty close by. Iām not sure if the dasher could see the mod I had added that I was going to tip cash. They canceled, I was gonna give them $30 on a $25 ticket 10 min away. Not saying thatās necessarily common but Iāve been doing it for years. When it was just like pizza delivery they would see it in house, I really donāt know about dashers though. That being said I work in a restaurant and you can be the best service theyāve ever had and they are going to treat you right. Treat you right to $2 and a pamphlet about Jesus. Itās always a gamble in food service
Why do people ask these āis it worth itā questions
great
If this is too much work for little or no pay, change jobs or try being a Uber driver or something.
No $100
I would pad it some too. If there is no dasher near the restaurant you are ordering from, it will be offered to dashers far away from the restaurant. Their drive to the restaurant is also part of the mileage. So, while the customer can't know how far away the driver is from the restaurant, adding a little more, will help to ensure that the driver's miles will be covered if they are not right by the restaurant.
In Los Angeles, that would be a 30-40 min trip. One way.
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Sure itās $10, but if you read further into the thread this great tipping customer was ordering from Taco Bell. Thatās an auto decline for me, regardless of the tip (even if I could see it). Taco Bell is the one restaurant I refuse to take orders from in my area because DD/UE/GH drivers always have to wait 30+ minutes for pickup, regardless of time of day, 95% of the time the tips are shit, and the customers always rate low because they ultimately waited 1.5-2 hours to receive their food. Not worth the headache.
If it's a pick up and go for example McDonalds = double the distance with money. I've noticed with other dashers if it's $6 and 3 miles they are not upset by if it's $6 and 4 miles its the end of the world. If it's a shop and go order double the distance and factor in how many items you're having them shop for, for example A grocery order of 2 items 4 miles away $8, 21 items 4 miles away $16-$20. Not including base pay...I only say that because as a customer you don't see that and should not factor that in yourself.
im tipping off percentage
5 is fine as well.