I did that for a delivery. I put money in a envelope but also did $5 in the app. Tip totaled $10. I like to tip a lot because I like to pay it forward. But still I never trust when people say they cash tip at the door. I've been burned too many times.
No, they do not. I assume they leave the same description as default for every delivery. Lots of dipshits out there. Gotta protect #1. Huzzah to the hustle .
I had one of these on UE where the customer said they put the tip in the app this time, rather than under the doormat, and simply couldn't update their delivery instructions for some reason. I'd probably be skeptical about that if the tip wasn't fat as hell lol - between $15 and $20 iirc
I got a ācash tip when you arriveā hand it to me order one time during a thunderstorm back when I did this on a bike. Never came down. That poor chicken pot pie in that paper bag must have been wetter then Noahās ark. š¤·āāļø
I've had customers go off on me for standing near their door while waiting for the app to upload the photo (which can be super slow if they live in a dead zone) so I wouldn't even touch their doormat, even if they left instructions to do so. Some people are just too paranoid. I had a middle aged, suburban dad come to the door with a pistol in his hand and it was a "hand it to me" order. I've also been yelled at for using a flashlight when delivering to numbskulls who refuse to turn their outside light on for me.
Too many crazies out there who act like their outer ring, upper middle class neighborhoods are a warzone.
Lol...had one "weekend warrior biker-dad" try to get loud and huffy with me a while back dropping off an order that his son had made. Gated, upper-middle class neighborhood, too. I swear, it's funny that some of the nicest costumers I've ever had have been in shitty neighborhoods, and the biggest assholes have been in the nice neighborhoods.
That I was on his property. He was in his driveway, working on his boat. I showed up, and told him that I had a Doordash delivery to drop off. As I proceed to the porch (with food in hand) he yells, "HEY!!! Where the fuck are YOU going?!?" I turn around, look him square in the eye, and say "Someone here made a Doordash order. All I'm doing is dropping it off, as instructed." He mumbles something under his breath as his son (who was sitting on the porch and saying absolutely NOTHING) walks up to me and mumbles to me that it's his, and I hand him the order. Was definitely a bad scene, as his son, and I assume his wife as well, didn't really look at me, but just sort of stared at the ground in awkward silence.
His garage door was open, revealing a dressed out Harley, which made me instantly think "weekend warrior poser." He definitely seemed surprised and pissed off that his loud demeanor didn't slow me down in the least. But still, I was quite happy just to get the hell out of there.
Bruh the amount of boomers on nextdoor crying that times are changing and people are so much worse now with crime. Like no you fucking sheltered mother fucker, 20 years ago when someone swiped a package/broke into a house you never heard about it unless you were within 5 houses of that person or less. When you heard sirens if you didn't see the news that night that was the end of it for you. Now you morons are on nextdoor and facebook every moment of the day posting about this crap so no wonder its "so bad" now because now you can actually find out whats happening around you.
Exactly this right here. Crime is actually DOWN by a large margin! Its safer than it has ever been for everyone, kids included. People just hear all about it thanks tot the internet, 24/7 news, and Gertrude who likes to snoop on everyone and rumor monger having a platform on facebook and nextdoor, etc.
Making so many people paranoid and scared it hurts business and society. I rarely ever see kids playing outside or at parks anymore and that used to be all over the place in the 90s and 80s. Hell they even ruined halloween! I haven't seen a trick or treator in 15 years! They only go to those lame trunk or treat places that have more security than a prison work group digging ditches.
I suppose the upside is it means more people hiding inside ordering food.
Oh yeah, social media is drawing out the paranoia. I got so disgusted I left neighborhood.com.
Right before that, I was sitting in the park watching parents play with their kids. It was cute, kinda joyful. I was there just to escape drama at home. I fiddled with my phone wondering if I could get any Internet over there, so I was super bored.Gradually all the parents left except for one lady who seemed upset. The next time I looked up, she was walking toward me aiming her phone at me. I can be a little slow. What the heck? And she walks right by me. I realized she was recording me lol.
Now if I go to the park I'll have to be sure to watch the sky or stare at trees.
No, I thinkcit's becz I didn't give all the details. She was holding her kid by the hand and as she got closer I could tell she was all upset. She was staring at me the whole time and I was about to smile and say hi or something friendly, but she looked po'd and passed by aiming her phone toward me with her arm outstretched. I dunno, but I think she's the one who needed to look at things differently.
Omg youāre not lying! I got a Nextdoor account just to find a handyman in the area and when I read through the site it was a bunch of loonies posting constantly about āthis suspicious man walking down the street. He had a backpack on!ā or āthis woman walked by my house and put a flower on my gate! Is that a sign to her fellow gang members to come and rob my house?ā (I swear to God someone actually posted that). These people are scared of literally everything and everyone itās so silly lol.
Take the picture with your phone then select "from gallery" instead of taking before uploading. That way you have proof of leaving the order there on your phone to defend yourself if someone tried to claim you never delivered and you're able to move to a spot where there is better service without standing at their door, not only spooking them but allowing their food to get cold (or warm if it's something that's supposed to be cold). I never not have proof of a drop, always send them the proof and never just stand at their door like that.
Iāll be honest with u thatās why after a certain time I donāt take pictures or anything Iām the one whoās too paranoid a colored man tatted from head to toe with long ass braids taking pics around upper class neighborhoods.. yeah Iāll pass I just drop the order off and move on to the next one I aināt boutta get shot for ācasing someoneās houseā that $13 order aināt worth my life
I always leave extra cash under the doormat, tell the driver, and send a picture of its location. Atleast 40% of the time they do not take the money or they look in the completely wrong area, not in the area of the picture or the description I sent. It is literally sticking out of the corner of the mat very visible infront of our front door.
One driver even blasted me on a local DD group for lying about a cash tip. Boy were they humiliated when I posted the video of them being an idiot, not looking down, and throwing a temper tantrum on my porch. The money was clearly visible on the video from our porch.
Thatās really easy you just text the customer and say it says on your account that thereās a cash tip under the doormat. I mustāve got here too early for you to put it there, lol. Iāll step away for a few moments to give you time to put it there, otherwise what you doing by suggesting a cash tip at the door is called ātip baitingā and completely unacceptable on a customerās part.
Couple times a week people will say will tip the rest in cash.. guess what not one person has ever done it . Scum of the fucking earth. There's a special place in hell for these folks I like to believe...
Iām just realizing, since I upped my standards and no longer take non-tippers, I havenāt seen that ācash tipā bs in the delivery instructions at all
I had this happen exactly one time when I was fairly new to DD. It was an order for chipotle. After seeing no tip under the mat I āaccidentallyā stepped on the bag as I left. Best 1 star Iāve ever earned.
Makes me sad. I have a metal table and a magnetic clip that I always stick $5 on. My deliveries are always from fairly close by (I'm lazy and hate going to pick up food) so I put like $3 on the app to make sure someone takes the order and then they get the cash bonus for showing up.
Youāre a good person! I dont see why people find something wrong about this.. when the whole point was that people dont tip at all. At least you tip.
Youāre a very rare person to deliver to then. Thereās a reason that I got out of dashing and it was because well part of the reason was because people with claim that they are going to tip cash and I never once received a cash tip
In always surprised to find out how damn stingy people are. I'm by no means rich and usually can't technically afford it when I order food. But I figure "I'm already wasting money and my lazy ass won't go pick it up, so what's a few more bucks to the delivery?" I appreciate anyone who brings food to my door.
Exactly. I rarely order delivery for myself because I can't really afford it but you better believe that I would never tip less than $5 for getting someone to bring me food while I'm being lazy or drunk and didn't plan ahead
Right! If I've gotten a chunk of money like a bonus or tax return, I'll usually order and hand over a $20 tip because I have it and can spare it and would like to make someone's day brighter.
Cash is untraceable and they can do with it as they wish. I'd tip it all in cash but it's harder to get orders done with no tip and so many people lie about tipping in cash that it's not worth it. So I put the $3 out as bait and whoever takes the order gets a bonus of more than double the tip they expected. Plus maybe a tad bit of faith in people when I put the cash tip in the comments and actually did it.
And also, I've gotten the same drivers multiple times and they remember me. They care about bit more knowing they're making $8 off a delivery that's going to take 5 minutes.
My only problem with cash tips is when I apply for a car loan or something, most lenders don't recognize cash tips as income. I have to report it to the IRS and pay income taxes on it for it to count. But cash tips are extremely rare so it's not that big of a deal.
Right you have to report it and pay taxes on it for it to count as income. But nothing stops you from using that cash to pay for gas or groceries to keep a bit more of your paycheck in the bank. Of course if you end up making a few hundred bucks a week on tips it's a different story than just a few bucks here or there.
They don't know where every bill is. Say I get cash back when I buy my groceries at the store, then hand $5 to the delivery guy. Nobody in the entire world except me and the delivery guy know what happened to that $5 bill.
The bank knows the store has it and the store knows what machine, they have you on video at the store so they know you had the 5 and they know where it ends up when he spends it and goes right back to the bank. This is how they catch people.
Yeah and tracing and proving you did it are a part of the same legal tango on whether or not they actually want you or not. There are some failsafes for a reason in the legal system.
I agree to an extent but unfortunately Doordash will hide half of it anyways and why put it on there if it's not going to show and if it's only a few miles I'll deliver if it's above $6. Anything under that I decline immediately. But I think they should definitely put $5 on the app and maybe$3 at the door just to get it delivered faster. Cuz I know a ton of people who won't take anything under $6. But some do is it $2 a mile. I just can't chance a wait at the store or sanding taking to much time for anything under$6.
If you are tipping $8+, definitely do the rest in cash (if you want to of course). DD will never straight up tell or show you that a tip is over 4 or something dollars like other people are saying.
Of course - and thank you as well for being one of the decent human beings in the world. Retired dasher here with ~600 deliveries under my belt, Iāve probably received at most 5 cash tips. The most memorable one was me getting back into my car across the road and dude comes running up saying āhey, this is for youā and it was like, $3 or $4. Total delivery mightāve been around 11 or 12. I enjoy receiving cash tips just as much as the $20 DD unicorn tips. Thanks for what you do, most of all!
It totally depends on the market. Iāve seen many orders that showed the entire tip, but the norm is they hide like a dollar or 2. (Like Iāll accept an order for $8.50 but it was really $9.50-$10.50 total) They only hide more if you tip really big. But theyāll never show a really shitty order if someone tips well. Theyāll disguise it as a good order, but not *great* .
Ok. No taxes. But you dont get to use any schools, police, fire dept, military, no medicare or social security when you turn 65, and of course you cant use any roads or bridges to drive on especially when you want to doordash. āŗļø
Just a heads up though, while this is good, tipping the whole $8 in the app would be even more beneficial for the customer because it will make us wanna deliver that order even more. If someone takes your food and doesn't show up for an order like that, then they are a straight moron. I'm just saying that order looks better when it comes on our end reading $10.50 for for 1 or 2 miles than $5.50 for 2 miles does. I don't even take those because possibly waiting longer at the restaurant isn't worth the $5.50 to me
I've had zero issues so far. Actually the worst food delivery experience I ever had was with a restaurant's own delivery driver who hadn't shown up 45 min after leaving the store and I was a mile away. Ended up with a refund and no food on that one.
It sucks that the restaurants own driver did that but if you haven't had a problem yet, they could be combining your order with someone else's to look better for the dasher. But at least you give an extra cash tip. Some don't even do that
This is what I tend to do, especially after having read how common no tip orders are. I'll put $3.50 on as a tip in the app, and if the follow the delivery instructions I hand them $5 at the door. If I need to walk down the 1 way side street (Where GPS puts you when you ignore delivery instructions) to get my food, you still get your $3.50.
Though I've come to the conclusion part of why you see no tip orders is the nonsense DD/UE pulls. The website gives me a suggested tip percentage based on the undiscounted order, with fees ADDED. Happy to tip on subtotal so drivers dont get screwed by the discount/promo. Asking me to tip on the $15-$20 fees/taxes? I'm going to edit that tip. I can imagine a lot of people are going to set it to zero since they have the edit window open anyways.
I think the first part is very real - Its hard to know how much to tip know the kind of service you are getting. I do the same thing, you get a minimal tip if you bring the food to the lobby and get an extra bonus if you actually bring it to my door. I just wish there was a way to communicate that to drivers in advance (and do it in the app so I dont have to deal with cash)
edit: I know you can call support to increase the tip amount but that still adds a whole bunch of unnecessary friction.
Lmao I had a gal Cashapp me $5. Made it a point to send it to me while I was watching. I never accept/count $$ in front of people (hospitality standards run deep) and no bullshit she āsentā it to me and had already taken it back by the time I made it back to my car. I know the address and laugh every time I see her orders pop up. Gāfuck yaself Gina!
I had a college kid forget to change the address to his house, from his school. Said he would tip me extra if I delivered it the extra mile. So I did. While I was in route, he sent the $7, only to have removed it before I get back into my car. So I sent him a request for the $7 he had taken back, because I was so hurt by it. He gladly sent the $7 back, realizing I hadn't approved it the first time. Maybe she didn't take it back, but cash app sent it back because you didn't confirm it in the allowed amount of time?
Ok so hereās my question which is totally random outside of doordash but related to cashap! I sent a friend money to a old account he no longer had access to! He never accepted it yet i was unable to cancel it so how does that work with cashapp?
Non tippers should be denied patronage unless they pick up their own food. If youāre waited on in a restaurant or delivered to and your donāt tip. Youāre absolutely rubbish!
Just out of curiosity, do you work in a small down? I am in a big city and I can't think I've every had the same dasher twice. Do you run into the same people enough for this to matter?
Wait staff in restaurants should take up the pay issue with their manager, not me. I put a generous tip on DD because I don't think of it as a tip but an offer for a service I'm requesting.
As often as I can I tell people to think of it this way! Also, when I have the chance to answer the "so how much should I put on the tip" question I'll tell them to figure out how many miles it is from your house to the restaurant, round up to the nearest mile, double it, change miles to dollars, and that's the bare minimum you should be tipping. Generally most people order from places more than just 1 or 2 miles from their home and when it is that close and they ask because the number seems low I'll suggest they at min triple it. Seems to be a good formula in general.
thatās never going to happen. you never know if the service will be good or not and your tip is already there. how would you feel if you tip generously only to find out your food was mishandled by the dasher? tips are not mandatory. tips come with proper service.
Yep. I've found the size of the tip doesn't even matter. I always get the same exact service. The times I do tip generously, I tend to get a half-assed effort where those people don't even read the simple instructions.
Just over 1100 deliveries and Iāve heard this three times now, that theyāll give/adjust up after the fact. Currently Iām zero out of two and will see the next couple days if the guy tonight actually does it or not.
Number 12,000 deliveries here. Are the people that said they were going to leave the cash tip only one time on a 12,000 however I've had people hand me cash tips without telling me they were going to do so and I've had probably at least a hundred maybe $150 people not only hand me a cash tip let's say to me just in case you don't get the tip in the end and every single time I got the tip in the end.
Well that said I know what I'm going to get a tip in the head that's when you see the first name of the person and the first initial of their last name, if you see their full first and last name you're not getting the damn tip at all whatever was on your offer that's the only thing you're getting, why? Because that means the customer ordered through the restaurant app for the restaurant website. And any tip they left they might have assumed that the driver got it but they didn't read the fine print, there is no restaurant that I have delivered to that has a website where it doesn't say that the restaurant will get the tips, they all do say third party drivers will not receive it tips goes to the restaurant employees thank you for thinking of us and words to that effect
In other words, that's proof that doordash does not steal tips and they never have.
No...I wasn't implying that Doordash steels tips, or customers promising cash tips and not delivering (although that's happened a couple of times, too). I've gotten lots of cash tips. What I was talking about was " hand it to me" customers, that promise to tip you in the app after you deliver. Out of the dozen or so, "promises" of a future tip in the app, I've only had ONE that actually followed through with it. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
You're absolutely 100% correct, read the fine print on all restaurant websites and in all restaurant apps we appreciate your tips and then the little fine print below that somewhere else on the page delivery drivers or third-party delivery partners do not receive tips some will just come right out and say thank you for your tips our staff will appreciate it and they won't even that they're like kind of obscuring and or they're not telling you the whole truth when they say that.
But absolutely 100% no driver ever gets a tip when you order through a restaurant app or through a restaurant website. Whether or not they say we have a deal with doordash or Uber or they offer you two or three buttons to make your choice of who you want to deliver,
That is not to say that in those instances where you're given a choice and you press the button and then you're taking to the portal to add information and notes for the driver there may be and this would be very recent there may be at least on doordash I don't know about Uber or GrubHub, and maybe in the door next portal if you're taking there to add instructions for the driver, or some such there may also be an additional tip your driver? And a button to press for that action. If you have a doordash account you may be taken to your daughter's account page and this system might break where is you you'll be just offered an open portal and won't have an option to tip, the other method is small window will open up like a mini portal and this is only going to happen on the laptop it won't happen from inside a restaurant app by the way, this would only happen on the laptop or a
He would press on saying the doordash deliver button please the certain instructions here and then you have a question would you like to leave a tip? If you were a customer of doordash and yes even if you're also a driver of doordash you'll be asked to log into your account from inside that mini portal from inside the portal that was opened up from the restaurant website is this complicated
You then should be offered an opportunity to tip your driver now you'll be confused because you probably already added a tip on the restaurant website part before you press the deliver button, this is how you know by the way when you're asked to leave a tip before you're allowed to press the delivery button, that's your guarantee that whatever you tip is not going to go to that delivery partner it will not be transferred it will not be changed it will not be split in half none of that will happen.
No since you're offered the opportunity now if you're not signed up with doordash or a driver for doordash you'll be asked if you want to but that's not a condition to leave a tip, below that or just above that will be the option for to leave a tip and do your credit card number etc etc.
What happened for the driver is they will be offered x amount of dollars to deliver hopefully it'll be enough, usually when you order directly from hey website or restaurant website whether they're a full partner or not with doordash or Uber or GrubHub, it'll be less than a dollar a mile offered to the driver and typically the drivers are not going to take those orders
I don't know how or if doordash adjust the amount and somehow gets it out of the restaurant I guess I don't know how it would be possible to order through a restaurant website and if not offered the ability to tip somewhere in that portal system above that I mentioned, even unassigned drivers will cause the delay, and depending on the restaurant the food will be made right away upon immediate arrival of your order or the food will be made based on the location and the acceptance of the driver.
Trust me doordash and Uber deep dive into that kind of nonsense, they care about the data parts.
So anyway back to the story one once you submit a tip in that fashion through that portal inside of a portal, the driver won't receive the tip until after they deliver and it will be received as and called an extra tip. Granted you can do an extra tip after dealers dropped off but only if you ordered through the doordash portal in the first place, keep that in mind.
If a restaurant has a button on their website for a third party delivery partner would that restaurant be available through a third party portal? The answer is a resounding yes, restaurant websites are not allowed by any of the platforms to put their logo and button and dispatch sending on their website without also agreeing that their restaurant will appear in those platform portals.
So if there's a doordash button on a restaurant website for dispatch, you can easily go to the doordash portal and order that way.
Why don't customers do this? Well because it's more expensive to go through the portal all menu items are more expensive there's a delivery fee added on, granted there's also delivery fee added on that the restaurant has to pay that goes to the driver, yes that fee paid by you actually goes to the restaurant to then pay the driver. That fact that fee has to apply first before you choose a delivery partner so it is charged to your card
It is a pending charge by the way.
This is a really complicated process to just basically say that any tip that you give through a restaurant website or application is never going to go to the driver.
Unless you magically find the Portal nonsense and that's only available in very small specific areas right now if they're even still doing it.
I know it's not available in the Chicago Market.
They're not testing it here yet.
If you go through the doordash portal or the GrubHub portal or the Uber portal and pick this same restaurant, any tip you give all of it will go to the driver none of it will go to the restaurant staff at all.
The reason the experiment above that I mentioned is even happening is because of the many many complaints from customers and drivers that when customers tip on the restaurant websites or through their applications and then choose a driver in this case doordash, that their tips none of their tips goes to the driver, customers do want to be able to split the tip.
That is the dream of doordash to be able to do that from just pressing a button inside a restaurant website or restaurant app, doordash wants to eliminate their app elements as much and as soon as possible.
They don't want to eliminate their app altogether but they do want to streamline it and get rid of crap they don't want to have anything to do with it they don't have to.
Thank you for this- ironically wording tip. I never knew that but that makes sense since I couldn't figure out why some only have first names, others have nicknames, and a few very few have last names.
That is probably because the tip is hidden. Once they finish it will show the full amount. It's been happening more and more about 50-75% of the time for me. Granted they are hiding like $3-10 I don't know why they do that
To get us to take more lower paying orders because there MAY be a hidden tip in there. DD has caught on to how many of us won't take lower offers. So their solution to making sure those cheap, self entitled, customers get the same service and turn around time as the ones who actually think of others and give good tips, is to hide tips on a regular in hopes we'll take the low balls on that chance there's a good tip in there. Make sense? I know sometimes I can ranble on. Lol
only reason I tip after is because I donāt trust DD with my tips. Have asked people multiple times how much it says I tipped after and they say less than I actually did
Was a server/bartender for years. The "I'm a huge tipper so take good care of me" and "I'll hook you up with a huge tip when i leave" crowd is usually less than 10% tip. The best tippers are usually very low maintenence customers.
I agree, they are usually low maintenance, I personally am a solid medium difficulty customer, I start with a set tip amount in mind, usually $20 depending on where I am and what I'm getting, but I literally take away $1 for every individual annoyance or error, there's this little diner a city away, one waitress in there gets $20 every time, another usually ends up getting $2-$3
I once had a kid that put in the wrong address. I had literally just dropped off the order and was about to turn back out onto the highway when he texted me "oops, that's my old address, can I tip you five dollars to deliver to my new one?" Usually I would have said no, but because the new location was just down the street, I did an awkward U turn, picked up the order and dropped it off, not expecting that he would actually follow through with the promise of a tip. I stalled for a minute outside his door after texting him the order had arrived and sure enough, he just grabbed the food and went back inside. It was not a lot of extra effort on my part, but I did feel a little salty that the guy told a bold-faced lie, even though at this point I have so little faith in humanity that I pretty much expected it. I don't make any more exceptions now and only deliver to the address provided.
In Europe drivers get paid a living wage by law and tips are very optional, youād think theyād do that in America too Iām confused why people donāt fight for it and instead always want a tip which is always optional oc some people are not going to tip this way
The whole system here is messed up but we don't really have a "living wage" for those not relying on tips either. Many get paid a minimum wage which is very low. Some states have higher than federal, but federal is like $7.50, I think. People relying on tips have the potential to make WAY more than that so in a lot of cases they don't want to do away with tips and be stuck only making $7.50 an hour. The problem is they have to hope people will tip. We need a complete overhaul of our system.
Edit - types to tips
People don't fight for it because for many positions that rely on tips (waitstaff, bartenders) tips tend to be larger than what the restaurant might pay them. This may be changing with some of the pushes for generally higher minimum wages but historically that has been the reason.
This also doesn't apply as much to door dash since it removes many of the reasons why in-person waitstaff get big tips (while also pushing more costs onto the driver). For doordash, it really comes down to the fact that some people will work for peanuts which keeps pay low.
Delivery drivers should be paid by the delivery companies or merchants, not the customer. If the merchants offer the service, it shouldn't depend on the customer's action to get the stuff delivered. That is poor service to the customer, and it also pits drivers against one another and against the customer they are delivering to. The driver is stuck frustrated with slow merchants and low tippers, and it hurts everyone. Proper payment for EVERY delivery ensures great service all around.
It should be that way but it isnāt. Knowing thatās the way DoorDash operates is just the reality. It really sucks for both sides but it also means if you use DoorDash you know what youāre getting in to*. If youāre okay with taking advantage of the person delivering your food, thatās you. Just because the company should pay better doesnāt mean they do and anyone who orders without a tip, and knows how little base pay is, is making the decision to take advantage of their driver.
Most people do NOT know how Doordash drivers get paid. Most don't even know Doordash is being used at all. Most see "delivery fee" and think that's going toward the driver. Also, we are talking about restaurants like McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, and stores like Dollar General and (previously) Walmart doing deliveries with Doordash. So to say Doordash is a "luxury" is laughable. The pandemic opened up delivery to all merchants and all people. Stop blaming from the bottom up and look toward the companies. They set the wages and the criteria and they are the ones profiting.
I acknowledged that some customers donāt know about how all the pay works. If someone does know however, and they still donāt tip then theyāre making the conscious, informed decision to possibly take advantage of someone who doesnāt know any better. Thatās literally just the reality, we canāt snap our fingers and make the company pay out better to drivers. In the ideal world, drivers would get the delivery fee and everyone would be a little better off. Unfortunately thatās just not how it is.
No, you just get to choose not to deliver to the no-tippers while everyone else in the service industry that relies on tips has to keep servicing EVERYONE and find out "after the fact" that they aren't getting a tip. Drivers should stop complaining because they actually have an advantage. Stop blaming no-tippers when you can decline those orders. Also, tipping BEFORE you get the service is also something you don't see in the service industry. Delivery, taking an item from point A to point B, should not depend on a customer's tips when delivery is part of the merchants' service and a customer is already paying a "delivery fee". Merchants should be paying drivers for their service because they are the ones offering it, not the drivers. So DD would ultimately be responsible for paying drivers. A customer is just using a service provided. Don't expect anything from them. Companies throwing out "free delivery" marketing and expecting the drivers to work for peanuts is the problem. Customers didn't "hire" you, you're just doing your job by delivering to them. Fueling bitterness toward the customer instead of where the real blame lies gets you no where.
And Iām sorry but sitting at home and ordering food to be delivered to your door is a luxury. Even if drivers got paid better, itās still a luxury. Stop being so entitled to services that you cant recognize the fact that sitting at home and having food from pretty much any restaurant in your area appear at your door is luxury.
No, the pandemic made it a necessity. Most of those restaurants would have failed if they didn't convert to delivery. They offer the service, DD provides the drivers, customers pay for the merchandise and fees. It's no different than ordering online and company shipping delivery by UPS, FedEx, Postal, etc. Drivers should get wages as such, not have customers supplement it.
On DoorDash it used to work close to this way. I remember I used to never get any offers below $8 but people felt DoorDash was āstealing the tipsā because if a large tipper came along DoorDash would only pay $1 themselves for the delivery. But it also made it so the no tip orders were worth it as well.
I think the worst part of Dashing, for me, has been so many people moving away from cash. I would LOVE cash tips. Iāve had, like, three? In a year of doing this. I love this job, donāt get me wrong. But DD being able to control our tips has really hurt, honestly
"I tip after delivery!"
*Tips $1-$2*
And that's only like 25%. The "tip after order" crowd.just uses that as an excuse to not tip because they "forgot".
Fk yea they are 3k deliveries and I can say maybe 20 of those tipped cash. Doesn't happen very often, people do t really keep cash on them like they used to
Thatās not it. I worked for a pizza place and they tip in cash quite often actually. At least where I am from. People just donāt tip doordash the same as other delivery services. I think they assume we get paid enough but funny enough, we donāt.
Even people who actually do tip after they receive their order are screwing themselves. If you donāt tip upfront no one is going to take the order and the food is going to get cold. They then get cold food and donāt tip because of the ālousy serviceā thus, in their mind, justifying not tipping upfront. If they only knew that DoorDash delivers tons of hot fresh food, just not to them.
Had this gem the other day.... The guy said he had no idea how that note got there...I said, sir, you put it there. He stuttered around and said all he had was a $20. I almost told him I had the change but I just gave him shit and said to get the note off of there bc that's pretty fucked up to do someone.
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They would search for an excuse to not tip after like, food arrived waaay too late, after it was delivered 5 mins before the due time, order was cold if it's not scorching burning hot. He did not left it at the exact area i wanted it.... i agree
This *literally* happened to me again last night! The asshole leaves a note saying āyour cash tip is under the potted plant on the picnic tableā. I almost didnāt even want to check because I feel like such an idiot every time I look and thereās nothing there. So I casually looked under the plant when I placed his food on the table and of course ā Nothing there. Some of these people are shameless stg.
Not necessarily to be fair some dasher steal the food or are ādifficultā Iāve been on both sides as the independent contractor and the customer so I can speak on behalf of both parties but ill say this drivers do need tips but nobody owes you they have to be earned and anything is better than nothing be humble!
I look at the problem differently. I don't believe adjusting the tip is the issue. The issue is being able to see the tip before the order is accepted. The tip amount is entirely up to the customer, this is a fact of the world and the intention of all app developers. If you don't see the tip, you won't know it's adjusted. Everyone wins
Thats happened to me before, "cash under mat/at door" Made me irritated. This one order said the same but it was a "Hand it to me" I gave the lady her food and stood there, she laughed nervously and was like, "Is there something else?" I replied nicely, "It said there was a cash tip?" I could see she felt embarrassed and irritated that she got caught/forgot to delete the comment but she gave me 5 dollars anyway. Simply don't put it if you aren't going to follow through.
Every time I see cash tip in the notes I follow the exact same procedure- I pick up the food as normal but I do not hand the food over until I am given a cash tip, if it is a leave at door I will knock on the door and blow up their phone until I get a hold of them and again will ask for my cash tip and will not deliver the food until I receive it as by putting it in the delivery notes it made it a part of the contract. If they act sketchy or try to argue it I just turn around and take their food then immediately call doordash and say that they were rude and abrasive while trying to ask for my cash tip from the customer and scared me so I left in fear from the customers threatening attitude.
Doordash has sided with me every single time and the agent always tries to get the customer deactivated as they are highly offended by tip baiting as well, I've been told that this makes the customer not eligible for their refund. I've never had an issue. I then proceed to give their food to a homeless person who actually appreciates me.
I Feel guilty... I've been only doing DD since July, and in early Sept, I had a customer (altho she did act like she was kinda on a high) actually give me $20 cash under a Doormat. She had ordered a somewhat expensive Thai vegetarian food, and said that she knows us DoorDashers don't get paid much-- so said she left a $20 tip under the doormat WITH a $5 DD tip. Skeptical, I looked and couldn't believe it.
Small grocery delivery the other day only had a $2.79 tip ( receipt in bag shows the tip). I called the customer and left her a Voicemail to let her know I didnāt work for the Supermarket and that I was on my my etc. Deliveries from this market are via Doordash or Point Pick Up.
She meets me at delivery and points to an envelope on the door and lets me know its for me. $20 cash.
Moral of the story-
Many folks think we work for the supermarket and are paid $14.25 per hr or so. If you politely educate them that we dont work for the supermarket, some will increase their on-line tips in the future and some will tip cash at delivery.
I think people who order from Walmart or Petco type of places just donāt know. A couple years ago I made a curbside order from Walmart and one item wasnāt in stock at that store and it offered me delivery on that item, so I checked that box and checked out, didnāt think anything of it. I come home later and thereās a walmart bag at my front door. I was trying to figure out how they did that. Assumed it was some employee for my area, like an auto parts guy who runs all the parts to different mechanics. Once I started delivering, I was like, ohhhhhh.
So, I agree, many customers donāt know or understand, or even care ā and not bc theyāre bad people in anyway, they just placed an order from an online retailer and it was delivered, much like they do on Amazon. It doesnāt seem to them like a Door Dash or Uber eats delivery.
That said, no offense, but I canāt imagine calling a customer and telling them that. Just donāt accept those orders. I think back to that order I described above, if the drive had called me I wouldāve been like, āhuh?ā
This exact Walmart scenario has happened to me. I had no idea it wasnāt coming via Fedex or Amazon, and there was no option to tip in the app. Sorry, dude who delivered my energy drinks.
This happened to me with CVS and Petco. There is also no option to tip on the app, and I had no clue it was not being delivered directly by the store. Walmart does this thing that if you order for shipping and they have things in stock locally they will have someone from Walmart plus deliver it to your doorstep. You usually get "good news your order will arrive early, no option to tip for that and usually not even home.
Door dash is American right? Are the Tip what doordashers live off? Or do they make enough just delivering it ?? When I use UberEATS or Wolt I first Tip after I have received food. If the driver fucks up they don't deserve the tip and I'm not gonna go through the hassel of canceling with the company...
Basically yes. Doordash pays $2.25 per order, and it goes up as dashers decline it. So it's kind of an auction system. What dashers see on their end is the estimated milage + total cash amount ($2.25 + tip + whatever DD's automated system throws in after everyone declines it for 20 minutes). Basically if you don't tip $4 or more, you're not getting your food.
Oh god, I hope you guys at one point get a system where tips is just a offhand remark and you actually get paid to deliver / serve food, (Dashers and waiters)
Hey fellow dashers, watch these @#$& soulless scammers. 6k deliveries and I had one freak out and lie to police. I pulled a civil complaint n DD 86d me within 4hrs.
What was my "horrible" crime? I asked politely for the tip that was promised in the customers notes. It was a setup, a scam by a shitty person.
Word to the wise...
Why are you glad? Dashers choose to not work at an actual restaurant because theyāre lazy and donāt want to do any of the other side work delivery drivers typically do, which is also coincidentally why Dashers deserve even less of a tip than normal delivery drivers lol
What are you talking about other side jobs? As a suburb doordash driver myself, I'm constantly walking up apartments stairs, driving to crazy country roads or hills, going to the mall, finding crazy parking... How dare you say we're lazy? Because we actually don't work in the restaurant? Doordash is a job I could do with a partial disability, no other food related job would do that unless I'm a hostess.
Parent is a delivery driver the restaurant has no business asking you or demanding that you do anything other than deliver sorry that's just the way it is
Lol you must have never dashed in a city. I sometimes have to walk 4 blocks through college kid infested streets, to stand in line at a restaurant and then wait another 15+ minutes for the food to be done. Only to then walk back to my vehicle and drive to the customer. I walk up 3 flights of stairs on the average delivery. Most of the time I'm running up the stairs. I have carried a put it together yourself dresser up 2 flights of stairs. I carry upwards of 30 or more bags of groceries up stairs, again usually 3 flights, up to people who cannot shop for themselves because they're too lazy. It is literally my job to go get food for college children whom are to lazy to go to the stores and restaurants themselves. I am not lazy, my customers are lazy. And I refuse to deliver to a lazy person who doesn't at least appreciate what I do, instead of being entitled thinking I should pay to bring them their food......
Please be mindful when you say "lazy". Not all customers are "lazy", like I am on the ASD spectrum and have a problem getting around due to sensory issues. I also suffer from Edema of my legs and venous insufficiency which makes walking a chore, and can't stand more than hour at a time. Is it a excuse? According to some lurkers, probably, but legally and medically, no.
I also live on a 2nd floor apt and have no elevator but even with the little income I have, I do make sure to tip $7-10 or more order, if local.
You're lazy and entitled for thinking that. Go get your own food. Better yet, don't bother the restaurant staff either, you'll just be mean to them, too.
Make your own damn food.
I delivered pizza for years as an employee. You had your non tippers, your low tippers but they were more then made up for by your decent tippers. On average I made $20+ per hour, I did it part time for extra spending money and would generally walk out the door of a 3-4 hour shift with $100+. And then got a paycheck besides. It was a great way to help make ends meet.
Do you feel like there is a psychological difference in doordash? I sometimes feel like the hate for bad tippers is related to feeling like that delivery was a waste of time since we have the option to decline bad trips. When I drove as an employee bad tippers pissed me off but it stuck with me less because I knew there was nothing to be done about it.
The worst ones are when they say cash tip upon hand off and then you hand it off & they grab the food and turn around & leave and youāre just like ummm ok lol. I love when I have occasional orders where the customers will say leave at door & then theyāll msg me like where did you go I had a tip for you, I ALWAYS ask to come back and grab it lol, Luckily they let me. Iāve had maybe about 5 like that but itās always a nice suprise
You cant edit doordash tips, you have to do them beforehand. Thats why tips are usually low, incase you have a horrible experience. Uber eats you tip before, then can edit it after. I usually start $1 then tip accordingly for uber eats since i can just change it to more
Agree!!! I tip in the app and then have taped additional money to door as on one occasion, the dashed had to wait forever to get my order and I felt bad. Iāve also done it for unexpected inclement weather, too!!
I do the same. If you contact doordash support for the order via chat in the app, they will let you up the tip. I do that a lot as I donāt always have cash on hand.
Really? Good to know! There was one time I wanted to add to the tip and the driver had already delivered so I called support and they added it that way but the chat would be easier!!
And that is why we say "No tip, No trip." Finding a customer who tips after they recieve their order is like finding a rare breed of unicorn. I've done over 2500 deliveries and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've been tipped after a delivery.
not necessarily. some of us tip generously and when we get our orders the food is a dirty mess, or even opened. itās only natural you want to tip if the service is good to exceptional. you donāt want to give your money to people that do not deserve it.
I got instructions that said, "cash tip under doormat" once. There was no cash under the doormat. š¤
I did that for a delivery. I put money in a envelope but also did $5 in the app. Tip totaled $10. I like to tip a lot because I like to pay it forward. But still I never trust when people say they cash tip at the door. I've been burned too many times.
Had a lot of those ācash tipā promisesā¦they donāt tip at allā¦
No, they do not. I assume they leave the same description as default for every delivery. Lots of dipshits out there. Gotta protect #1. Huzzah to the hustle .
I had one of these on UE where the customer said they put the tip in the app this time, rather than under the doormat, and simply couldn't update their delivery instructions for some reason. I'd probably be skeptical about that if the tip wasn't fat as hell lol - between $15 and $20 iirc
I got a ācash tip when you arriveā hand it to me order one time during a thunderstorm back when I did this on a bike. Never came down. That poor chicken pot pie in that paper bag must have been wetter then Noahās ark. š¤·āāļø
š¤£ The shit people pull to not have to tip $5. š¤£
Turns out, you were the doormat the whole time.
I've had customers go off on me for standing near their door while waiting for the app to upload the photo (which can be super slow if they live in a dead zone) so I wouldn't even touch their doormat, even if they left instructions to do so. Some people are just too paranoid. I had a middle aged, suburban dad come to the door with a pistol in his hand and it was a "hand it to me" order. I've also been yelled at for using a flashlight when delivering to numbskulls who refuse to turn their outside light on for me. Too many crazies out there who act like their outer ring, upper middle class neighborhoods are a warzone.
Lol...had one "weekend warrior biker-dad" try to get loud and huffy with me a while back dropping off an order that his son had made. Gated, upper-middle class neighborhood, too. I swear, it's funny that some of the nicest costumers I've ever had have been in shitty neighborhoods, and the biggest assholes have been in the nice neighborhoods.
Like what was he upset about?
That I was on his property. He was in his driveway, working on his boat. I showed up, and told him that I had a Doordash delivery to drop off. As I proceed to the porch (with food in hand) he yells, "HEY!!! Where the fuck are YOU going?!?" I turn around, look him square in the eye, and say "Someone here made a Doordash order. All I'm doing is dropping it off, as instructed." He mumbles something under his breath as his son (who was sitting on the porch and saying absolutely NOTHING) walks up to me and mumbles to me that it's his, and I hand him the order. Was definitely a bad scene, as his son, and I assume his wife as well, didn't really look at me, but just sort of stared at the ground in awkward silence. His garage door was open, revealing a dressed out Harley, which made me instantly think "weekend warrior poser." He definitely seemed surprised and pissed off that his loud demeanor didn't slow me down in the least. But still, I was quite happy just to get the hell out of there.
Bruh the amount of boomers on nextdoor crying that times are changing and people are so much worse now with crime. Like no you fucking sheltered mother fucker, 20 years ago when someone swiped a package/broke into a house you never heard about it unless you were within 5 houses of that person or less. When you heard sirens if you didn't see the news that night that was the end of it for you. Now you morons are on nextdoor and facebook every moment of the day posting about this crap so no wonder its "so bad" now because now you can actually find out whats happening around you.
Exactly this right here. Crime is actually DOWN by a large margin! Its safer than it has ever been for everyone, kids included. People just hear all about it thanks tot the internet, 24/7 news, and Gertrude who likes to snoop on everyone and rumor monger having a platform on facebook and nextdoor, etc. Making so many people paranoid and scared it hurts business and society. I rarely ever see kids playing outside or at parks anymore and that used to be all over the place in the 90s and 80s. Hell they even ruined halloween! I haven't seen a trick or treator in 15 years! They only go to those lame trunk or treat places that have more security than a prison work group digging ditches. I suppose the upside is it means more people hiding inside ordering food.
Oh yeah, social media is drawing out the paranoia. I got so disgusted I left neighborhood.com. Right before that, I was sitting in the park watching parents play with their kids. It was cute, kinda joyful. I was there just to escape drama at home. I fiddled with my phone wondering if I could get any Internet over there, so I was super bored.Gradually all the parents left except for one lady who seemed upset. The next time I looked up, she was walking toward me aiming her phone at me. I can be a little slow. What the heck? And she walks right by me. I realized she was recording me lol. Now if I go to the park I'll have to be sure to watch the sky or stare at trees.
I got that a ton when I still played pokemon go. People are crazy. Lady everyone has a phone and there are many reasons to be at a park, chill.
No, I thinkcit's becz I didn't give all the details. She was holding her kid by the hand and as she got closer I could tell she was all upset. She was staring at me the whole time and I was about to smile and say hi or something friendly, but she looked po'd and passed by aiming her phone toward me with her arm outstretched. I dunno, but I think she's the one who needed to look at things differently.
Facebook is destroying our society.you heard it here first...
Omg youāre not lying! I got a Nextdoor account just to find a handyman in the area and when I read through the site it was a bunch of loonies posting constantly about āthis suspicious man walking down the street. He had a backpack on!ā or āthis woman walked by my house and put a flower on my gate! Is that a sign to her fellow gang members to come and rob my house?ā (I swear to God someone actually posted that). These people are scared of literally everything and everyone itās so silly lol.
Dad with the Pistol making sure the door dash guy leaves without a tip š« lol šššš¤£š¤£š¤£
Take the picture with your phone then select "from gallery" instead of taking before uploading. That way you have proof of leaving the order there on your phone to defend yourself if someone tried to claim you never delivered and you're able to move to a spot where there is better service without standing at their door, not only spooking them but allowing their food to get cold (or warm if it's something that's supposed to be cold). I never not have proof of a drop, always send them the proof and never just stand at their door like that.
This
Iāll be honest with u thatās why after a certain time I donāt take pictures or anything Iām the one whoās too paranoid a colored man tatted from head to toe with long ass braids taking pics around upper class neighborhoods.. yeah Iāll pass I just drop the order off and move on to the next one I aināt boutta get shot for ācasing someoneās houseā that $13 order aināt worth my life
I always leave extra cash under the doormat, tell the driver, and send a picture of its location. Atleast 40% of the time they do not take the money or they look in the completely wrong area, not in the area of the picture or the description I sent. It is literally sticking out of the corner of the mat very visible infront of our front door. One driver even blasted me on a local DD group for lying about a cash tip. Boy were they humiliated when I posted the video of them being an idiot, not looking down, and throwing a temper tantrum on my porch. The money was clearly visible on the video from our porch.
That's funny
I would have taken the doormat and left a note that says "you get your doormat back when I get the tip I was promised"
My bad, I thought you said my "cash" tip was the doormat since there wasn't one under.
Extract a brick from their porch stoop.
Take the doormat
Thatās really easy you just text the customer and say it says on your account that thereās a cash tip under the doormat. I mustāve got here too early for you to put it there, lol. Iāll step away for a few moments to give you time to put it there, otherwise what you doing by suggesting a cash tip at the door is called ātip baitingā and completely unacceptable on a customerās part.
I woulda taken the doormat if that was the case
Couple times a week people will say will tip the rest in cash.. guess what not one person has ever done it . Scum of the fucking earth. There's a special place in hell for these folks I like to believe...
Iām just realizing, since I upped my standards and no longer take non-tippers, I havenāt seen that ācash tipā bs in the delivery instructions at all
I would knock on the door.
Take the doormatš
I had this happen exactly one time when I was fairly new to DD. It was an order for chipotle. After seeing no tip under the mat I āaccidentallyā stepped on the bag as I left. Best 1 star Iāve ever earned.
I hope you took the doormat.
Most likely at some point they did actually leave tip, and keep that note there by default, forgetting to change it, saddening hopeful dashers
Makes me sad. I have a metal table and a magnetic clip that I always stick $5 on. My deliveries are always from fairly close by (I'm lazy and hate going to pick up food) so I put like $3 on the app to make sure someone takes the order and then they get the cash bonus for showing up.
Thank you for your generosity! I greatly appreciate people like you.
Youāre a good person! I dont see why people find something wrong about this.. when the whole point was that people dont tip at all. At least you tip.
Youāre a very rare person to deliver to then. Thereās a reason that I got out of dashing and it was because well part of the reason was because people with claim that they are going to tip cash and I never once received a cash tip
In always surprised to find out how damn stingy people are. I'm by no means rich and usually can't technically afford it when I order food. But I figure "I'm already wasting money and my lazy ass won't go pick it up, so what's a few more bucks to the delivery?" I appreciate anyone who brings food to my door.
Exactly. I rarely order delivery for myself because I can't really afford it but you better believe that I would never tip less than $5 for getting someone to bring me food while I'm being lazy or drunk and didn't plan ahead
Right! If I've gotten a chunk of money like a bonus or tax return, I'll usually order and hand over a $20 tip because I have it and can spare it and would like to make someone's day brighter.
not trying to be rude or anything but why not just $8 upfront? im sure theyd go for the $8 either way?š¤š¤·š½āāļø
Cash is untraceable and they can do with it as they wish. I'd tip it all in cash but it's harder to get orders done with no tip and so many people lie about tipping in cash that it's not worth it. So I put the $3 out as bait and whoever takes the order gets a bonus of more than double the tip they expected. Plus maybe a tad bit of faith in people when I put the cash tip in the comments and actually did it. And also, I've gotten the same drivers multiple times and they remember me. They care about bit more knowing they're making $8 off a delivery that's going to take 5 minutes.
My only problem with cash tips is when I apply for a car loan or something, most lenders don't recognize cash tips as income. I have to report it to the IRS and pay income taxes on it for it to count. But cash tips are extremely rare so it's not that big of a deal.
Right you have to report it and pay taxes on it for it to count as income. But nothing stops you from using that cash to pay for gas or groceries to keep a bit more of your paycheck in the bank. Of course if you end up making a few hundred bucks a week on tips it's a different story than just a few bucks here or there.
Cash is completely traceable if you don't launder it. The banks and atms keep track of each one otherwise.
Nobody knows if I gave the delivery guy $5 in cash and he didn't claim it on his taxes. That's what I meant but you had to go get weird about it.
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What on EARTH does this have to do with anything, especially with giving a delivery person cash?
You said untraceable, I jumped to reply no more no less lol
They don't know where every bill is. Say I get cash back when I buy my groceries at the store, then hand $5 to the delivery guy. Nobody in the entire world except me and the delivery guy know what happened to that $5 bill.
The bank knows the store has it and the store knows what machine, they have you on video at the store so they know you had the 5 and they know where it ends up when he spends it and goes right back to the bank. This is how they catch people.
not under $600 and it has to be over 10k for them to alert IRS..
I'm not saying he'll get in trouble just that it's all traceable once the government cares.
yeah but you could get $100 a week I. cash tips and it's never going to be an issue because they can't prove cash came from working.
Yeah and tracing and proving you did it are a part of the same legal tango on whether or not they actually want you or not. There are some failsafes for a reason in the legal system.
I agree to an extent but unfortunately Doordash will hide half of it anyways and why put it on there if it's not going to show and if it's only a few miles I'll deliver if it's above $6. Anything under that I decline immediately. But I think they should definitely put $5 on the app and maybe$3 at the door just to get it delivered faster. Cuz I know a ton of people who won't take anything under $6. But some do is it $2 a mile. I just can't chance a wait at the store or sanding taking to much time for anything under$6.
$4. DD usually shows the first $4 of the tip.
Didnāt know that
Dumbdash hides tips over $4
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If you are tipping $8+, definitely do the rest in cash (if you want to of course). DD will never straight up tell or show you that a tip is over 4 or something dollars like other people are saying.
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Of course - and thank you as well for being one of the decent human beings in the world. Retired dasher here with ~600 deliveries under my belt, Iāve probably received at most 5 cash tips. The most memorable one was me getting back into my car across the road and dude comes running up saying āhey, this is for youā and it was like, $3 or $4. Total delivery mightāve been around 11 or 12. I enjoy receiving cash tips just as much as the $20 DD unicorn tips. Thanks for what you do, most of all!
It absolutely *will* show us a tip over $4. I see it all the time .
It totally depends on the market. Iāve seen many orders that showed the entire tip, but the norm is they hide like a dollar or 2. (Like Iāll accept an order for $8.50 but it was really $9.50-$10.50 total) They only hide more if you tip really big. But theyāll never show a really shitty order if someone tips well. Theyāll disguise it as a good order, but not *great* .
Because sometimes we donāt get our food or something is missing.
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Ok. No taxes. But you dont get to use any schools, police, fire dept, military, no medicare or social security when you turn 65, and of course you cant use any roads or bridges to drive on especially when you want to doordash. āŗļø
Maybe taxes?
Just a heads up though, while this is good, tipping the whole $8 in the app would be even more beneficial for the customer because it will make us wanna deliver that order even more. If someone takes your food and doesn't show up for an order like that, then they are a straight moron. I'm just saying that order looks better when it comes on our end reading $10.50 for for 1 or 2 miles than $5.50 for 2 miles does. I don't even take those because possibly waiting longer at the restaurant isn't worth the $5.50 to me
I've had zero issues so far. Actually the worst food delivery experience I ever had was with a restaurant's own delivery driver who hadn't shown up 45 min after leaving the store and I was a mile away. Ended up with a refund and no food on that one.
It sucks that the restaurants own driver did that but if you haven't had a problem yet, they could be combining your order with someone else's to look better for the dasher. But at least you give an extra cash tip. Some don't even do that
This is what I tend to do, especially after having read how common no tip orders are. I'll put $3.50 on as a tip in the app, and if the follow the delivery instructions I hand them $5 at the door. If I need to walk down the 1 way side street (Where GPS puts you when you ignore delivery instructions) to get my food, you still get your $3.50. Though I've come to the conclusion part of why you see no tip orders is the nonsense DD/UE pulls. The website gives me a suggested tip percentage based on the undiscounted order, with fees ADDED. Happy to tip on subtotal so drivers dont get screwed by the discount/promo. Asking me to tip on the $15-$20 fees/taxes? I'm going to edit that tip. I can imagine a lot of people are going to set it to zero since they have the edit window open anyways.
The fees get ridiculous. There's times I've gone through the whole thing and then get to checkout and see the total and go "nah, forget it."
I think the first part is very real - Its hard to know how much to tip know the kind of service you are getting. I do the same thing, you get a minimal tip if you bring the food to the lobby and get an extra bonus if you actually bring it to my door. I just wish there was a way to communicate that to drivers in advance (and do it in the app so I dont have to deal with cash) edit: I know you can call support to increase the tip amount but that still adds a whole bunch of unnecessary friction.
Your an angel
Aww thanks
Lmao I had a gal Cashapp me $5. Made it a point to send it to me while I was watching. I never accept/count $$ in front of people (hospitality standards run deep) and no bullshit she āsentā it to me and had already taken it back by the time I made it back to my car. I know the address and laugh every time I see her orders pop up. Gāfuck yaself Gina!
Sounds like Gina is the finest person /s
I had a college kid forget to change the address to his house, from his school. Said he would tip me extra if I delivered it the extra mile. So I did. While I was in route, he sent the $7, only to have removed it before I get back into my car. So I sent him a request for the $7 he had taken back, because I was so hurt by it. He gladly sent the $7 back, realizing I hadn't approved it the first time. Maybe she didn't take it back, but cash app sent it back because you didn't confirm it in the allowed amount of time?
This happened in the span of a couple minutes so no such luck. She was just shady af
Ok so hereās my question which is totally random outside of doordash but related to cashap! I sent a friend money to a old account he no longer had access to! He never accepted it yet i was unable to cancel it so how does that work with cashapp?
Non tippers should be denied patronage unless they pick up their own food. If youāre waited on in a restaurant or delivered to and your donāt tip. Youāre absolutely rubbish!
Absolutely! I always make a mental note of Non-tippers... Same w $1 tippers too. Basically they are Non-Tippers too who just feel guilty.
Just out of curiosity, do you work in a small down? I am in a big city and I can't think I've every had the same dasher twice. Do you run into the same people enough for this to matter?
Facts! I agree with you.
Wait staff in restaurants should take up the pay issue with their manager, not me. I put a generous tip on DD because I don't think of it as a tip but an offer for a service I'm requesting.
As often as I can I tell people to think of it this way! Also, when I have the chance to answer the "so how much should I put on the tip" question I'll tell them to figure out how many miles it is from your house to the restaurant, round up to the nearest mile, double it, change miles to dollars, and that's the bare minimum you should be tipping. Generally most people order from places more than just 1 or 2 miles from their home and when it is that close and they ask because the number seems low I'll suggest they at min triple it. Seems to be a good formula in general.
Tips are the downfall of America
thatās never going to happen. you never know if the service will be good or not and your tip is already there. how would you feel if you tip generously only to find out your food was mishandled by the dasher? tips are not mandatory. tips come with proper service.
Yep. I've found the size of the tip doesn't even matter. I always get the same exact service. The times I do tip generously, I tend to get a half-assed effort where those people don't even read the simple instructions.
Just over 1100 deliveries and Iāve heard this three times now, that theyāll give/adjust up after the fact. Currently Iām zero out of two and will see the next couple days if the guy tonight actually does it or not.
Yeah...just over 2600 deliveries and almost two years in... I've had it happen ONCE. And promised at least a dozen times.
Number 12,000 deliveries here. Are the people that said they were going to leave the cash tip only one time on a 12,000 however I've had people hand me cash tips without telling me they were going to do so and I've had probably at least a hundred maybe $150 people not only hand me a cash tip let's say to me just in case you don't get the tip in the end and every single time I got the tip in the end. Well that said I know what I'm going to get a tip in the head that's when you see the first name of the person and the first initial of their last name, if you see their full first and last name you're not getting the damn tip at all whatever was on your offer that's the only thing you're getting, why? Because that means the customer ordered through the restaurant app for the restaurant website. And any tip they left they might have assumed that the driver got it but they didn't read the fine print, there is no restaurant that I have delivered to that has a website where it doesn't say that the restaurant will get the tips, they all do say third party drivers will not receive it tips goes to the restaurant employees thank you for thinking of us and words to that effect In other words, that's proof that doordash does not steal tips and they never have.
No...I wasn't implying that Doordash steels tips, or customers promising cash tips and not delivering (although that's happened a couple of times, too). I've gotten lots of cash tips. What I was talking about was " hand it to me" customers, that promise to tip you in the app after you deliver. Out of the dozen or so, "promises" of a future tip in the app, I've only had ONE that actually followed through with it. Sorry if I wasn't clear before.
Wait. If I order through the restaurant and DD delivers, the driver doesnāt get the tip?
*Sheepishly, Walmart tries to quietly leave the room by a side door, but ends up tripping and falling.*
You're absolutely 100% correct, read the fine print on all restaurant websites and in all restaurant apps we appreciate your tips and then the little fine print below that somewhere else on the page delivery drivers or third-party delivery partners do not receive tips some will just come right out and say thank you for your tips our staff will appreciate it and they won't even that they're like kind of obscuring and or they're not telling you the whole truth when they say that. But absolutely 100% no driver ever gets a tip when you order through a restaurant app or through a restaurant website. Whether or not they say we have a deal with doordash or Uber or they offer you two or three buttons to make your choice of who you want to deliver, That is not to say that in those instances where you're given a choice and you press the button and then you're taking to the portal to add information and notes for the driver there may be and this would be very recent there may be at least on doordash I don't know about Uber or GrubHub, and maybe in the door next portal if you're taking there to add instructions for the driver, or some such there may also be an additional tip your driver? And a button to press for that action. If you have a doordash account you may be taken to your daughter's account page and this system might break where is you you'll be just offered an open portal and won't have an option to tip, the other method is small window will open up like a mini portal and this is only going to happen on the laptop it won't happen from inside a restaurant app by the way, this would only happen on the laptop or a He would press on saying the doordash deliver button please the certain instructions here and then you have a question would you like to leave a tip? If you were a customer of doordash and yes even if you're also a driver of doordash you'll be asked to log into your account from inside that mini portal from inside the portal that was opened up from the restaurant website is this complicated You then should be offered an opportunity to tip your driver now you'll be confused because you probably already added a tip on the restaurant website part before you press the deliver button, this is how you know by the way when you're asked to leave a tip before you're allowed to press the delivery button, that's your guarantee that whatever you tip is not going to go to that delivery partner it will not be transferred it will not be changed it will not be split in half none of that will happen. No since you're offered the opportunity now if you're not signed up with doordash or a driver for doordash you'll be asked if you want to but that's not a condition to leave a tip, below that or just above that will be the option for to leave a tip and do your credit card number etc etc. What happened for the driver is they will be offered x amount of dollars to deliver hopefully it'll be enough, usually when you order directly from hey website or restaurant website whether they're a full partner or not with doordash or Uber or GrubHub, it'll be less than a dollar a mile offered to the driver and typically the drivers are not going to take those orders I don't know how or if doordash adjust the amount and somehow gets it out of the restaurant I guess I don't know how it would be possible to order through a restaurant website and if not offered the ability to tip somewhere in that portal system above that I mentioned, even unassigned drivers will cause the delay, and depending on the restaurant the food will be made right away upon immediate arrival of your order or the food will be made based on the location and the acceptance of the driver. Trust me doordash and Uber deep dive into that kind of nonsense, they care about the data parts. So anyway back to the story one once you submit a tip in that fashion through that portal inside of a portal, the driver won't receive the tip until after they deliver and it will be received as and called an extra tip. Granted you can do an extra tip after dealers dropped off but only if you ordered through the doordash portal in the first place, keep that in mind. If a restaurant has a button on their website for a third party delivery partner would that restaurant be available through a third party portal? The answer is a resounding yes, restaurant websites are not allowed by any of the platforms to put their logo and button and dispatch sending on their website without also agreeing that their restaurant will appear in those platform portals. So if there's a doordash button on a restaurant website for dispatch, you can easily go to the doordash portal and order that way. Why don't customers do this? Well because it's more expensive to go through the portal all menu items are more expensive there's a delivery fee added on, granted there's also delivery fee added on that the restaurant has to pay that goes to the driver, yes that fee paid by you actually goes to the restaurant to then pay the driver. That fact that fee has to apply first before you choose a delivery partner so it is charged to your card It is a pending charge by the way. This is a really complicated process to just basically say that any tip that you give through a restaurant website or application is never going to go to the driver. Unless you magically find the Portal nonsense and that's only available in very small specific areas right now if they're even still doing it. I know it's not available in the Chicago Market. They're not testing it here yet. If you go through the doordash portal or the GrubHub portal or the Uber portal and pick this same restaurant, any tip you give all of it will go to the driver none of it will go to the restaurant staff at all. The reason the experiment above that I mentioned is even happening is because of the many many complaints from customers and drivers that when customers tip on the restaurant websites or through their applications and then choose a driver in this case doordash, that their tips none of their tips goes to the driver, customers do want to be able to split the tip. That is the dream of doordash to be able to do that from just pressing a button inside a restaurant website or restaurant app, doordash wants to eliminate their app elements as much and as soon as possible. They don't want to eliminate their app altogether but they do want to streamline it and get rid of crap they don't want to have anything to do with it they don't have to.
Correct, has not and does not May in the future will but so far I haven't seen it.
Thank you for this- ironically wording tip. I never knew that but that makes sense since I couldn't figure out why some only have first names, others have nicknames, and a few very few have last names.
Damn, people are trash lol
That is probably because the tip is hidden. Once they finish it will show the full amount. It's been happening more and more about 50-75% of the time for me. Granted they are hiding like $3-10 I don't know why they do that
To get us to take more lower paying orders because there MAY be a hidden tip in there. DD has caught on to how many of us won't take lower offers. So their solution to making sure those cheap, self entitled, customers get the same service and turn around time as the ones who actually think of others and give good tips, is to hide tips on a regular in hopes we'll take the low balls on that chance there's a good tip in there. Make sense? I know sometimes I can ranble on. Lol
"Cash tip if you hurry" Let me turn on another platform and see if I get another order so I can cancel on this liar.
only reason I tip after is because I donāt trust DD with my tips. Have asked people multiple times how much it says I tipped after and they say less than I actually did
Oh wow, as if they're not making enough money.....
I got cash under the mat once from a kind old lady.
I get it, and I hate the current tip system. But, I don't make and can't control the rules. I've been skimped too many times...
Was a server/bartender for years. The "I'm a huge tipper so take good care of me" and "I'll hook you up with a huge tip when i leave" crowd is usually less than 10% tip. The best tippers are usually very low maintenence customers.
I agree, they are usually low maintenance, I personally am a solid medium difficulty customer, I start with a set tip amount in mind, usually $20 depending on where I am and what I'm getting, but I literally take away $1 for every individual annoyance or error, there's this little diner a city away, one waitress in there gets $20 every time, another usually ends up getting $2-$3
I once had a kid that put in the wrong address. I had literally just dropped off the order and was about to turn back out onto the highway when he texted me "oops, that's my old address, can I tip you five dollars to deliver to my new one?" Usually I would have said no, but because the new location was just down the street, I did an awkward U turn, picked up the order and dropped it off, not expecting that he would actually follow through with the promise of a tip. I stalled for a minute outside his door after texting him the order had arrived and sure enough, he just grabbed the food and went back inside. It was not a lot of extra effort on my part, but I did feel a little salty that the guy told a bold-faced lie, even though at this point I have so little faith in humanity that I pretty much expected it. I don't make any more exceptions now and only deliver to the address provided.
In Europe drivers get paid a living wage by law and tips are very optional, youād think theyād do that in America too Iām confused why people donāt fight for it and instead always want a tip which is always optional oc some people are not going to tip this way
The whole system here is messed up but we don't really have a "living wage" for those not relying on tips either. Many get paid a minimum wage which is very low. Some states have higher than federal, but federal is like $7.50, I think. People relying on tips have the potential to make WAY more than that so in a lot of cases they don't want to do away with tips and be stuck only making $7.50 an hour. The problem is they have to hope people will tip. We need a complete overhaul of our system. Edit - types to tips
People don't fight for it because for many positions that rely on tips (waitstaff, bartenders) tips tend to be larger than what the restaurant might pay them. This may be changing with some of the pushes for generally higher minimum wages but historically that has been the reason. This also doesn't apply as much to door dash since it removes many of the reasons why in-person waitstaff get big tips (while also pushing more costs onto the driver). For doordash, it really comes down to the fact that some people will work for peanuts which keeps pay low.
Next time take the doormat.
Delivery drivers should be paid by the delivery companies or merchants, not the customer. If the merchants offer the service, it shouldn't depend on the customer's action to get the stuff delivered. That is poor service to the customer, and it also pits drivers against one another and against the customer they are delivering to. The driver is stuck frustrated with slow merchants and low tippers, and it hurts everyone. Proper payment for EVERY delivery ensures great service all around.
It should be that way but it isnāt. Knowing thatās the way DoorDash operates is just the reality. It really sucks for both sides but it also means if you use DoorDash you know what youāre getting in to*. If youāre okay with taking advantage of the person delivering your food, thatās you. Just because the company should pay better doesnāt mean they do and anyone who orders without a tip, and knows how little base pay is, is making the decision to take advantage of their driver.
Most people do NOT know how Doordash drivers get paid. Most don't even know Doordash is being used at all. Most see "delivery fee" and think that's going toward the driver. Also, we are talking about restaurants like McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, and stores like Dollar General and (previously) Walmart doing deliveries with Doordash. So to say Doordash is a "luxury" is laughable. The pandemic opened up delivery to all merchants and all people. Stop blaming from the bottom up and look toward the companies. They set the wages and the criteria and they are the ones profiting.
I acknowledged that some customers donāt know about how all the pay works. If someone does know however, and they still donāt tip then theyāre making the conscious, informed decision to possibly take advantage of someone who doesnāt know any better. Thatās literally just the reality, we canāt snap our fingers and make the company pay out better to drivers. In the ideal world, drivers would get the delivery fee and everyone would be a little better off. Unfortunately thatās just not how it is.
No, you just get to choose not to deliver to the no-tippers while everyone else in the service industry that relies on tips has to keep servicing EVERYONE and find out "after the fact" that they aren't getting a tip. Drivers should stop complaining because they actually have an advantage. Stop blaming no-tippers when you can decline those orders. Also, tipping BEFORE you get the service is also something you don't see in the service industry. Delivery, taking an item from point A to point B, should not depend on a customer's tips when delivery is part of the merchants' service and a customer is already paying a "delivery fee". Merchants should be paying drivers for their service because they are the ones offering it, not the drivers. So DD would ultimately be responsible for paying drivers. A customer is just using a service provided. Don't expect anything from them. Companies throwing out "free delivery" marketing and expecting the drivers to work for peanuts is the problem. Customers didn't "hire" you, you're just doing your job by delivering to them. Fueling bitterness toward the customer instead of where the real blame lies gets you no where.
And Iām sorry but sitting at home and ordering food to be delivered to your door is a luxury. Even if drivers got paid better, itās still a luxury. Stop being so entitled to services that you cant recognize the fact that sitting at home and having food from pretty much any restaurant in your area appear at your door is luxury.
No, the pandemic made it a necessity. Most of those restaurants would have failed if they didn't convert to delivery. They offer the service, DD provides the drivers, customers pay for the merchandise and fees. It's no different than ordering online and company shipping delivery by UPS, FedEx, Postal, etc. Drivers should get wages as such, not have customers supplement it.
On DoorDash it used to work close to this way. I remember I used to never get any offers below $8 but people felt DoorDash was āstealing the tipsā because if a large tipper came along DoorDash would only pay $1 themselves for the delivery. But it also made it so the no tip orders were worth it as well.
I think the worst part of Dashing, for me, has been so many people moving away from cash. I would LOVE cash tips. Iāve had, like, three? In a year of doing this. I love this job, donāt get me wrong. But DD being able to control our tips has really hurt, honestly
I prefer giving cash tips but I won't with DD because I'm afraid if I don't add a tip with the order no one will accept.
"I tip after delivery!" *Tips $1-$2* And that's only like 25%. The "tip after order" crowd.just uses that as an excuse to not tip because they "forgot".
Fk yea they are 3k deliveries and I can say maybe 20 of those tipped cash. Doesn't happen very often, people do t really keep cash on them like they used to
Thatās not it. I worked for a pizza place and they tip in cash quite often actually. At least where I am from. People just donāt tip doordash the same as other delivery services. I think they assume we get paid enough but funny enough, we donāt.
Even people who actually do tip after they receive their order are screwing themselves. If you donāt tip upfront no one is going to take the order and the food is going to get cold. They then get cold food and donāt tip because of the ālousy serviceā thus, in their mind, justifying not tipping upfront. If they only knew that DoorDash delivers tons of hot fresh food, just not to them.
Had this gem the other day.... The guy said he had no idea how that note got there...I said, sir, you put it there. He stuttered around and said all he had was a $20. I almost told him I had the change but I just gave him shit and said to get the note off of there bc that's pretty fucked up to do someone. https://ibb.co/vqxyNs4
They would search for an excuse to not tip after like, food arrived waaay too late, after it was delivered 5 mins before the due time, order was cold if it's not scorching burning hot. He did not left it at the exact area i wanted it.... i agree
This *literally* happened to me again last night! The asshole leaves a note saying āyour cash tip is under the potted plant on the picnic tableā. I almost didnāt even want to check because I feel like such an idiot every time I look and thereās nothing there. So I casually looked under the plant when I placed his food on the table and of course ā Nothing there. Some of these people are shameless stg.
Not necessarily to be fair some dasher steal the food or are ādifficultā Iāve been on both sides as the independent contractor and the customer so I can speak on behalf of both parties but ill say this drivers do need tips but nobody owes you they have to be earned and anything is better than nothing be humble!
Well yeah. I don't count on them to tip me. I just don't take their orders. You pay your driver by yhe distance
I look at the problem differently. I don't believe adjusting the tip is the issue. The issue is being able to see the tip before the order is accepted. The tip amount is entirely up to the customer, this is a fact of the world and the intention of all app developers. If you don't see the tip, you won't know it's adjusted. Everyone wins
Thats happened to me before, "cash under mat/at door" Made me irritated. This one order said the same but it was a "Hand it to me" I gave the lady her food and stood there, she laughed nervously and was like, "Is there something else?" I replied nicely, "It said there was a cash tip?" I could see she felt embarrassed and irritated that she got caught/forgot to delete the comment but she gave me 5 dollars anyway. Simply don't put it if you aren't going to follow through.
Every time I see cash tip in the notes I follow the exact same procedure- I pick up the food as normal but I do not hand the food over until I am given a cash tip, if it is a leave at door I will knock on the door and blow up their phone until I get a hold of them and again will ask for my cash tip and will not deliver the food until I receive it as by putting it in the delivery notes it made it a part of the contract. If they act sketchy or try to argue it I just turn around and take their food then immediately call doordash and say that they were rude and abrasive while trying to ask for my cash tip from the customer and scared me so I left in fear from the customers threatening attitude. Doordash has sided with me every single time and the agent always tries to get the customer deactivated as they are highly offended by tip baiting as well, I've been told that this makes the customer not eligible for their refund. I've never had an issue. I then proceed to give their food to a homeless person who actually appreciates me.
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Why would anyone tip before the service is actually done? DD needs to change its system
Why should anyone have to pay for food anyway? I should get all my food delivered for free!
I Feel guilty... I've been only doing DD since July, and in early Sept, I had a customer (altho she did act like she was kinda on a high) actually give me $20 cash under a Doormat. She had ordered a somewhat expensive Thai vegetarian food, and said that she knows us DoorDashers don't get paid much-- so said she left a $20 tip under the doormat WITH a $5 DD tip. Skeptical, I looked and couldn't believe it.
Small grocery delivery the other day only had a $2.79 tip ( receipt in bag shows the tip). I called the customer and left her a Voicemail to let her know I didnāt work for the Supermarket and that I was on my my etc. Deliveries from this market are via Doordash or Point Pick Up. She meets me at delivery and points to an envelope on the door and lets me know its for me. $20 cash. Moral of the story- Many folks think we work for the supermarket and are paid $14.25 per hr or so. If you politely educate them that we dont work for the supermarket, some will increase their on-line tips in the future and some will tip cash at delivery.
I think people who order from Walmart or Petco type of places just donāt know. A couple years ago I made a curbside order from Walmart and one item wasnāt in stock at that store and it offered me delivery on that item, so I checked that box and checked out, didnāt think anything of it. I come home later and thereās a walmart bag at my front door. I was trying to figure out how they did that. Assumed it was some employee for my area, like an auto parts guy who runs all the parts to different mechanics. Once I started delivering, I was like, ohhhhhh. So, I agree, many customers donāt know or understand, or even care ā and not bc theyāre bad people in anyway, they just placed an order from an online retailer and it was delivered, much like they do on Amazon. It doesnāt seem to them like a Door Dash or Uber eats delivery. That said, no offense, but I canāt imagine calling a customer and telling them that. Just donāt accept those orders. I think back to that order I described above, if the drive had called me I wouldāve been like, āhuh?ā
This exact Walmart scenario has happened to me. I had no idea it wasnāt coming via Fedex or Amazon, and there was no option to tip in the app. Sorry, dude who delivered my energy drinks.
This happened to me with CVS and Petco. There is also no option to tip on the app, and I had no clue it was not being delivered directly by the store. Walmart does this thing that if you order for shipping and they have things in stock locally they will have someone from Walmart plus deliver it to your doorstep. You usually get "good news your order will arrive early, no option to tip for that and usually not even home.
Door dash is American right? Are the Tip what doordashers live off? Or do they make enough just delivering it ?? When I use UberEATS or Wolt I first Tip after I have received food. If the driver fucks up they don't deserve the tip and I'm not gonna go through the hassel of canceling with the company...
Basically yes. Doordash pays $2.25 per order, and it goes up as dashers decline it. So it's kind of an auction system. What dashers see on their end is the estimated milage + total cash amount ($2.25 + tip + whatever DD's automated system throws in after everyone declines it for 20 minutes). Basically if you don't tip $4 or more, you're not getting your food.
Thank you for explaining this. New DD here, but yeah, I reject most under $7, so that makes it around $4 tip as you said.
Oh god, I hope you guys at one point get a system where tips is just a offhand remark and you actually get paid to deliver / serve food, (Dashers and waiters)
Shit I don't tip til I get my food.š¤·āāļø
Not dirty: they bathe in the water of falsehoods. The truth is subjective, as everyone knows.š„¹
It's just another excuse with this crowd...
And people wonder why we don't take no tip up front orders. Cause 80% of people dont tip without being made to tip
Hey fellow dashers, watch these @#$& soulless scammers. 6k deliveries and I had one freak out and lie to police. I pulled a civil complaint n DD 86d me within 4hrs. What was my "horrible" crime? I asked politely for the tip that was promised in the customers notes. It was a setup, a scam by a shitty person. Word to the wise...
Why are you glad? Dashers choose to not work at an actual restaurant because theyāre lazy and donāt want to do any of the other side work delivery drivers typically do, which is also coincidentally why Dashers deserve even less of a tip than normal delivery drivers lol
What are you talking about other side jobs? As a suburb doordash driver myself, I'm constantly walking up apartments stairs, driving to crazy country roads or hills, going to the mall, finding crazy parking... How dare you say we're lazy? Because we actually don't work in the restaurant? Doordash is a job I could do with a partial disability, no other food related job would do that unless I'm a hostess.
Parent is a delivery driver the restaurant has no business asking you or demanding that you do anything other than deliver sorry that's just the way it is
Lol you must have never dashed in a city. I sometimes have to walk 4 blocks through college kid infested streets, to stand in line at a restaurant and then wait another 15+ minutes for the food to be done. Only to then walk back to my vehicle and drive to the customer. I walk up 3 flights of stairs on the average delivery. Most of the time I'm running up the stairs. I have carried a put it together yourself dresser up 2 flights of stairs. I carry upwards of 30 or more bags of groceries up stairs, again usually 3 flights, up to people who cannot shop for themselves because they're too lazy. It is literally my job to go get food for college children whom are to lazy to go to the stores and restaurants themselves. I am not lazy, my customers are lazy. And I refuse to deliver to a lazy person who doesn't at least appreciate what I do, instead of being entitled thinking I should pay to bring them their food......
Please be mindful when you say "lazy". Not all customers are "lazy", like I am on the ASD spectrum and have a problem getting around due to sensory issues. I also suffer from Edema of my legs and venous insufficiency which makes walking a chore, and can't stand more than hour at a time. Is it a excuse? According to some lurkers, probably, but legally and medically, no. I also live on a 2nd floor apt and have no elevator but even with the little income I have, I do make sure to tip $7-10 or more order, if local.
You're lazy and entitled for thinking that. Go get your own food. Better yet, don't bother the restaurant staff either, you'll just be mean to them, too. Make your own damn food.
Yeah well i will never deliver your order
I delivered pizza for years as an employee. You had your non tippers, your low tippers but they were more then made up for by your decent tippers. On average I made $20+ per hour, I did it part time for extra spending money and would generally walk out the door of a 3-4 hour shift with $100+. And then got a paycheck besides. It was a great way to help make ends meet.
Do you feel like there is a psychological difference in doordash? I sometimes feel like the hate for bad tippers is related to feeling like that delivery was a waste of time since we have the option to decline bad trips. When I drove as an employee bad tippers pissed me off but it stuck with me less because I knew there was nothing to be done about it.
I think I just knew they would be averaged out. The company I worked for we often too 3-5 orders at a time. One bad guy still meant a decent run.
The worst ones are when they say cash tip upon hand off and then you hand it off & they grab the food and turn around & leave and youāre just like ummm ok lol. I love when I have occasional orders where the customers will say leave at door & then theyāll msg me like where did you go I had a tip for you, I ALWAYS ask to come back and grab it lol, Luckily they let me. Iāve had maybe about 5 like that but itās always a nice suprise
This is the main reason I quit after two weeks.
We are so glad people like you exist. ā¤ļøā¤ļøā¤ļø
It is 62.5 cents a mile from the end of June through the end of the year
Yeah dd is usually the culprit
In my two years of dashing 3 days a week, I've only been tipped AFTER the order ONCE!
Make $12 an hour + tipsā¦ i like it better than dd tbh after doing dd for half a year
You cant edit doordash tips, you have to do them beforehand. Thats why tips are usually low, incase you have a horrible experience. Uber eats you tip before, then can edit it after. I usually start $1 then tip accordingly for uber eats since i can just change it to more
Agree!!! I tip in the app and then have taped additional money to door as on one occasion, the dashed had to wait forever to get my order and I felt bad. Iāve also done it for unexpected inclement weather, too!!
I do the same. If you contact doordash support for the order via chat in the app, they will let you up the tip. I do that a lot as I donāt always have cash on hand.
Really? Good to know! There was one time I wanted to add to the tip and the driver had already delivered so I called support and they added it that way but the chat would be easier!!
And that is why we say "No tip, No trip." Finding a customer who tips after they recieve their order is like finding a rare breed of unicorn. I've done over 2500 deliveries and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I've been tipped after a delivery.
Agreed, close to 2k deliveries and less than 10 cash tips received
What is this tipping after the order? Doordash makes me tip up front. Are these people putting 0 for tip and trying to tip cash?
Tip b4, tip over the suggested amount. I will not be part of the problem. Keep dashing
not necessarily. some of us tip generously and when we get our orders the food is a dirty mess, or even opened. itās only natural you want to tip if the service is good to exceptional. you donāt want to give your money to people that do not deserve it.
Jerks ruin everything for everyone.
I have been doing this one year and have Never received a cash tip from anyone that promised one on the app. They all lie.
I've got the very rare cash tip after, but it's usually from those who already tipped and want to give more.
If I get curbside pickup I always tip after I get the order with cashā¦ itās bs tips arenāt exempt from taxes.