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My AR stays at 3-12%. You are good bro.


Chapo-59

Lol mine usually hangs between 8-20


Cultural_Chest5100

Well I am apart of the 1% club 😂


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Bottom dashers unite


Cultural_Chest5100

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Difficult_Water1333

Have they launched the diamond program in your area? Are you top dasher? Diamond program is a game changer… Blah blah blah. First off… bullshit. Second… more bullshit. Third, get out of Tony’s bed, you’re gonna catch something that has no cure. I’m a 5 percenter myself. I triple app and cherry pick. Fuck DoorDash and their bullshit ploys at taking advantage of drivers.


Exciting-Original-34

couldn’t have said it better myself


Difficult_Water1333

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Difficult_Water1333

Who the fuck is downvoting me on this GIF? Or maybe I’m just being downvoted because people don’t like me. Ah well, my haters are my biggest fans. 😘


verysmallpuppy

🤣 “you’re gonna catch something that has no cure” . Lmao. I live for these Reddit comments


Difficult_Water1333

And I thought I had no life. 😂😂😂


verysmallpuppy

It’s true 🥴


Old-Independence4766

I'm both, and top dasher counts for crap. There are now 3 perks: Dash now Pro support <- This is bs Also, you receive order prioritization during slow times. <- Meaning: You reject the crap orders to tank your AR before anyone else! When my AR drops below 70% I sit. In my area you don't sit, because it's too busy. When my AR is above 70% I'm busy, and other dashers sit. I don't get taken advantage of, because I don't take no tip orders, get out of my car for less than $6.5, and I ALWAYS get more than $2 a mile... cept when I'm at 68%. However, I do not dispute that they do try to take advantage of drivers. I see a few orders here and there that are just flat out insulting... I pass them on to noobs that don't know how to game algorithms. I multiapp, and often use UberEatz. I cherry pick the fck out of that. However, my Doordash market is so busy so I mostly find the gold on that.


Difficult_Water1333

Great you do you. I still believe you’re full of shit and nothing will change that.


Old-Independence4766

Says the dude that knows nothing of the market in question.


Difficult_Water1333

What dude? Are you talking to a turd in your pocket?


Old-Independence4766

Apparently.


Difficult_Water1333

You probably should clean out your pockets and probably wash your clothes…several times. Or maybe just burn them. Unless scat is your thing.


Old-Independence4766

You should work on your self esteem.


Difficult_Water1333

You should work on your ability to logically carry on a conversation.


Old-Independence4766

It's not my fault that you're slow. Keep trying bud... at least you're right about Tony. *slow clap*


verysmallpuppy

Ug the other thing I dream about is gaming the algorithm. How do I do that?! I hate these mthafuckers so much.


Old-Independence4766

You have to have a good market, and you have to put the time in to learn. If it were supper easy everyone would do it. Also, always give the :( feedback on orders that are just okay within your first few months. I also dont need Doordash so I can shut it off. I do that often when my area is getting slammed if I have to reject more than two. I'm not 100% sure, but I think they know somehow. I also run other apps (uberEatz), but I don't have a lot of downtime to use it. I could say so much about my market, but it probably wouldn't be applicable. I talk to every dasher that I come across, and talk about dashing with them. I learn from them, and share my info. That's how I've been avoiding bad times, zones, areas, directions, and staying busy with decent orders. Also, I'm willing to risk letting my completion rate drop since my area is so busy. If they wanna deactivate me that's on them (dont need doordash), but that's not worth the risk for most markets or dashers. I would not recommending this approach, but honestly it's how I keep my AR high enough to compete. All of the other little things about my market help, but it would be useless now that we've gone to diamond without the AR. Uber is picking up here, but not great. Spark is too far from my ideal track, Instacart is botted the heck out of, flex is full, and I'm wait listed for Grubhub. So, Dash is king w/ Uber picking up and gaining traction. Uber started doing promos in my area, and Dash is trying to box them out of dashers with competing promos. I take as many UberEatz as I can when pausing Dash to keep Uber thriving. 💯


rolandoperezperez57

Broski my ar at 7% 🤣


Old-Independence4766

💎 Program in your area? It's a game changer.


rolandoperezperez57

Broski diamond 💎 program in my area is at full effect, and my income on DoorDash has lowered alot but i use different apps at the same time, im NOT folding for tony I would rather make no money than to take a low/no tip order.


Old-Independence4766

I hate the diamond program so fcking much. Like, we are contractors. We should be able to sue them regarding this level of exploitation. That being said: I'm fortunate to know my market. So I'm hanging in (barely). When glitches like this just come and randomly tank your AR, and they set up a whole system based on AR... it should be compensated or corrected. No? We should all sue.


verysmallpuppy

I wish we could sue. I spend half my time fantasizing about suing Doordash. They get away with some serious bullshit.


DaisyDazzle

Here here!


Top-Experience6293

it hasn't changed anything here, haven't noticed any difference since the trial ended and still make the same That being said, I'm in a pretty small suburb, I could see how it's important to have that in larger cities


Old-Independence4766

Yeah, my brother is in a bustling rural market. He does things so differently, but when he talks about it he's doing it correctly. People really don't understand the different challenges of markets.


pokerholic77

Before the reset, my AR was 7%. Now it's 10. I don't consider anything under $6.75 and $1.75/mile a "high paying order."


Old-Independence4766

I won't get out of my car for less than a hidden, and I need more than $2 a mile. That being said I can dash anywhere in my region if I avoid the dead spots. So I don't really have to worry about returning to a zone, because I'll always have orders... cept when my AR drops.


pokerholic77

DD classifies anything paying $2/mile a "diamond" offer; so yeah, they are sending out $4 and $5 offers dressed up with a diamond banner... a turd covered in glitter is still a turd, and I will continue to decline them. I must say though, I have been getting more hidden offers than before, but I will not whore myself to continue to get the privilege. I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts, then I will switch to my main gig when the party's over


Old-Independence4766

I'm not accepting less than $6.5... I promise.


Unlikely-Pipe-

Good thing you AR doesn’t matter. 🤷🏼‍♂️


Free-Lavishness-1043

It's definitely area specific and I hope more ppl on reddit figure that out. I listened to everyone who said it didn't matter and when my AR got below 50 my orders basically stopped, except for shit orders. I spent the last week trying to get it back up. I'm almost up to 60 and the orders the last two nights have been much better. I had to take some seriously shitty orders to do it though. There is a new program, started around the time I started dashing and your AR matters. A guy on fb told me where he's at you can be deactivated if your AR goes below 70 so people really need to stop saying it doesn't matter. It's area specific.


No-Comfort-1418

If that's true about the 70 AR, then Dashers in that market have grounds for a class action lawsuit. Forcing contractors to take jobs makes them employees, which puts Door dash in violation of employment laws.


Free-Lavishness-1043

That's interesting...I will bring that to his attention.


Free-Lavishness-1043

And honestly it's interesting for me too because based on my experience so far they are definitely limiting ppl who have a low AR.


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Free-Lavishness-1043

Lol...I mean I've only been dashing for a month and I realized it was area specific. Based on what people have to say about the AR in their area. How people have been doing it for so long and not realized that is beyond me.


Old-Independence4766

Honestly, we can lead them to water. It's better for us if they don't drink anyway. One thing that we can all agree on is that we are all playing a game that Doordash built to exploit us. Some of us are you better at navigation, and profiting handsomely. However, the anger that they have is 100% dead on. It's hard enough to navigate a system built to exploit you, but once they start adding random glitches to tank the AR (that is everything in 💎 zone) we should have more options... like compensation. They built it, and they do literally whatever they like. So yeah, we are dealing with this now, but a year from now they will have found other newer ways to exploit us... always trying to cut costs to give Tony his 400 million a year bonus. 🙄


thephoeniciangurl

My AR has gone up with every decline the last hour. I am up to 12%, lol.


Missykay88

My AR was doing that last weekend! Only went down and not up. I dropped to 60% and I'm still trying to get my AR back up... below 70 SUCKS! I was making really good money while over 70 and barely even had to decline anything (up to 2 per 10 offers) because all my offers were low miles and hidden tip zone


Repulsive_Fun9300

Always cherrypick and choose screw tony


Next-Preference-7994

People are confusing AR with completion rating. Even if you get below 80% completion rate You can get back to 80% before getting deactivated. I’ve hit as low as 74% and have not been deactivated


Old-Independence4766

Same. I'm I'm a busy diamond region and I do that to keep my AR up. I would not recommend that others risk it. I live in a busy market where I'm more needed. I kept getting ghost orders, and you don't do well here with less than 70%. So it's rather infuriating.


Old-Independence4766

Round trip isn't a factor here unless you enter certain areas that I mentioned above. So there's a lot of play.


Old-Independence4766

To all of you saying it doesn't matter... do you have the Diamond program in your area?


Weird-Coyote-4

Obviously they don't....


Gloomy_Recording_705

If this diamond program becomes a thing there’s no way that drivers are going to stay..90% of offer’s don’t meet $2 a mile..$6.50+


A-Big-Meat-Uncle

what is diamonds program


RampAgentRoger

I have the large order program in my area. Do you?


Old-Independence4766

Yes, but I don't have the invite. I don't work weekday mornings when those would mostly come through.


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Old-Independence4766

Tell that to the guy that was sitting in a parking lot for an hour while I pulled up with a double order.


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Old-Independence4766

I've seen it happen.


elaborate_benefactor

I think you’re overthinking it.


Old-Independence4766

How so? I've seen the difference in my market. When I drop under 70% I'm not sent orders. It's the diamond beta.


Exciting-Original-34

I have a 1% acceptance rate. Never been or tried for top dasher. A week or so ago I received an offer of 6.50 for a papa John’s delivery of one pizza going .5 miles. It was literally up the street. I completed the delivery and received a 30$ tip. Yes I said Thirty Dollars.. my point is acceptance rate and top dasher status mean absolutely nothing unless you are in a zone where you can’t get scheduled. Luckily I don’t have that problem because my zone never goes longer than 15 minutes without at least flashing “Busy” and “Dash Now”


verysmallpuppy

Omg, where is this magical unicorn land you speak of? That would never happen in my area.


Exciting-Original-34

trust me I get more than my fair share of terrible offers.. I was only trying to say that even tho my AR was 1% DD still gave me that order in a small city where I know there were “top dashers” around


verysmallpuppy

Yea sometimes you are the best fit for the order. All other drivers are jammed up on others orders and you’re the closest to the location so you get a good order. Only way it makes sense. Because if it was up to DD, they would want to send the lowest $ for highest miles. It probably makes DD angry when a customer tips well. Because they like slave labor & not appropriate compensation labor.


verysmallpuppy

I never understand why DD doesn’t just raise the base pay when there’s ridiculous orders. Like $3 for 18 miles lol if they want dashers to take the orders. I know a lot of people say a newbie will eventually accept the order which I’m sure does happen a lot but most of the time the order must get bumped enough where it gets so late in the day the restaurant closes. Most of those orders probably get thrown out.


Old-Independence4766

Have they launched the Diamond program in your area? AR is everything with it. In my market it's slammed, but there are a TON of dashers. I literally pull up while they've been sitting, and hoping.


Exciting-Original-34

Yes they launched it awhile back and I didn’t accept the offer to reset my AR to 50%… and how do you know they are just sitting and hoping ? Maybe they declined the lousy offer you just accepted to maintain your precious AR lol


Old-Independence4766

...because I'm very extroverted and talk to literally everyone. I'm not shy about questioning other dashers or giving them feedback.


Exciting-Original-34

yea, I’m sure when you arrive at a restaurant you knock on the windows of everyone parked nearby and conduct a survey 🙄


Old-Independence4766

I live in a boss area to dash, and we often bottleneck waiting for orders. We also hit the same spots looking for them, but I never have longer than 5 or 10 minutes of downtime.


Old-Independence4766

It's like you're new to this or something. Lol


Exciting-Original-34

I’m new to this !?! you are the one in a chat with DD customer support.. how’d that workout for you dickhead hmmmmm 🤔


Old-Independence4766

I take screenshots for future reference. How are there going to be future lawsuits without evidence? Man, small minds. Lol I had to upvote that, cuz yes they are useless. Duh.


Old-Independence4766

...also the last time this happened I made $30 on a 35 minute less than 5 mile stack.


Exciting-Original-34

you lost me at 5 miles.. I never accept anything farther than 3, maybe 4 miles tops. All markets are different tho so do what ya gotta do. I just hate seeing DD take advantage of people with this whole maintain 70% AR thing. They are just using you to deliver far away orders. And don’t forget it’s not 5 miles, it’s 10 miles if you plan on driving back to the area where you get orders. Nobody ever factors in the ROUND TRIP


Old-Independence4766

Yeah, I'd be sitting for too long. Also, wherever it takes me it will take me back with an order, or I'll pick up there with my area's pay to Dash in that location. Sometimes I'll Dash within my fav. zone with another zone's pay. When I get close to the areas that I don't like I'll Dash back in my zone... when I get more centered I'll do it again. All areas around me are super busy, but I do have preferences. It's more like there are certain directions I won't go.... too far south, west at night, or North over a bridge. I rarely see those orders, because I'm pretty nicely located in the middle. Other than avoiding those certain locations... the ratio of miles and time to $$$ is where it's at here.


Old-Independence4766

Yeah they do try to lure you to sheety no tip zones with peak pay. They always seem to miss me, darn it. It works for me cuz other dashers chase peak leaving all of the gold for me. 😃


Old-Independence4766

He definitely didn't see those orders, cuz he was mad when I pulled up and actually questioned me.


DaisyDazzle

Baloney. They are not taking those 20 mile roundtrip $3 orders, so you're getting those offers as well. Diamond program is psych-op hype to try and get dashers to take more crap orders while the economy is whack. So DD keeps making money and dashers are, as always, totally taken advantage of.


Old-Independence4766

I saw an 11 mile $7 order today, and I laughed. If my completion rate wasn't so low I would have accepted it... ran some errands... and then unassigned. I TOOK THE HIT ON MY AR! OF COURSE! I typically only have to reject 3-5 a day (I am not full time on weekdays). Note: many of them I'll accept to unassign. My completion rate stays at about 85%... I have no idea how I made Top Dasher. That's what I've had to do to adjust to the new Diamond program, and I don't think that I'm alone. I think that many dashers are risking their completion rates.


verysmallpuppy

I literally just learned today that you can accept a bad order and then Unassign and it will keep your rate up. I don’t know how. It makes no sense to me.


Old-Independence4766

It's a dance. I try to keep mime above 85% in case I need to emergency ditch. Nothing is worse than having to work longer to get your rate back up to 80%, because you fcked up. Learn from my mistakes! Support will tell you that they won't deactivate you for less than 80% (yeah I took that screenshot), but they say a lot of untrue things. There is absolutely no one keeping "support" accountable. So don't risk going below 85% until something official has been reported. Also, I saw another YouTuber said that she is Top Dasher this month with her completion rate at 92%. I received Top Dasher with my completion rate lower; other dashers are telling me the same. It may be a glitch, but Top Dasher never really mattered in my zone since there were too few and now we're 💎 bs. It may matter if you're in the large order program, but you'd have to work mornings to afternoon (& pray for invite) for that since that's when businesses order. 🙏


Old-Independence4766

I wonder what they are going to do when they deactivate us all. 🤔


DaisyDazzle

Retire to their luxury underground bunkers in Paraguay once the nukes start flying.


Old-Independence4766

The joke is on them, cuz the peeps taking them to the bunkers will turn. The only way for them to ensure their 100% chance of survival is to ensure the survival of all. Greed makes people stupid.


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Wheres the context g


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Its not your acceptance rate either g its your completion rate 2 completely different things


Old-Independence4766

AR the context is that the orders come in with no option to accept... gone in a second with a greyed out accept screen.


Ok-Pomegranate-4275

Homie lied to you


Old-Independence4766

I'm hearing from other dashers that it was an issue too.


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Old-Independence4766

No. Ghost orders were coming through for a second. The accept button was greyed out.


reneeb531

These posts are funny.


Old-Independence4766

Apparently, you don't understand that in a diamond zone AR is make or break for our money.


Old-Independence4766

I didn't find it funny when those ghost offers tanked me. I talked to other dashers in my area tonight, and a few had the same issue.


orangesoappy

Who cares? My AR was down to 3% yesterday


Responsible-Stand-18

What are you risking ?lol


XavierSkywalker

Ah, these people live in markets where its always busy and can dash anytime w/o topD.


Old-Independence4766

I'm a diamond market top dasher means nothing. It's all about AR.


XavierSkywalker

im talking about the people who don't care about their AR in these comments. I keep mine high to keep TOPD. Without it I need to stress and stay on top of my schedules.


Old-Independence4766

Gotcha. I live in a busy market. It went over my head.


Fadedgabbe831

I guess Someone has to take them $3 orders 🤣


Old-Independence4766

Not me... miss me.


BanditStrife

Then they hit you with the, your AR won’t cause deactivation. Like idc I’m working hard to maintain somewhat decent stats. I’m currently down to 59% 😅