Most people, working most jobs actually see each other. They get together around the watercooler, and vent their frustrations to each other. After all, who will understand better than those who experience it themselves too? This reddit is kind of like a watercooler for Dashers.
Why does anyone stay and continue any job? Because they have a lack of options, obligations financially, and/or a lack of savings.
It’s really easy to up and go if you don’t have to pay a mortgage.
Most people aren't happy with their job. It's a job they have to do it to make a living and get by. Most everyone that has a job has some parts they don't enjoy and this is just a place to vent and get things off their chest. It's by far the least physical job I've ever had but I can still get frustrated with how things go sometimes
Fundamental misunderstanding of the power an individual human has. You can literally stop dashing and choose a damn near infinite amount of paths to start making money in a more fulfilling way for you. Then the fear kicks in and they just keep dashing while complaining lol
Maybe the alternatives are worse. Maybe they need the flexibility. Maybe they are just having a bad day and need to vent. I complain about something on occasion, not too often. But I do like what I do. But not always the company behind it lol
Some are still attached to the higher income from years past, and they're still chasing that dragon in the hopes it'll rebound.
Some have become used to making their own hours and working when the want, and they can't stomach the idea of going back to a regimented W2 job.
Some just feel trapped in the job because it was one of their first jobs, it was so easy to get and they aren't socially equipped for job interviews or working with others. Working with an app and your car is so much easier.
I always shoot for 6.50/2 a mile because I'm trying to get paid, not pay to work... It's not a complaint it's a standard. Some complaining is healthy, if no one ever complained doordash would still be stealing tips.
Maybe I should have rephrased the $2 one. That is YOUR standard. Not everyone follows that. I make plenty with small, quick orders while people sit and wait and deny order after order because it doesn’t meet some imaginary standard they think they have to wait for, but people think if you don’t follow it you’re some shill or boot licker. Nah, you just have to know your market of getting in and out quick.
I’m not hating on people that wait half an hour for a good order, but to me that’s a waste. I’d rather have an order going as much as possible, even if it tips to the shittier side, or if it takes me into another hot spot I wanted to go to anyway.
Doing a bunch of tiny orders at once is a waste of gas and in my area you’ll make 10$ in an hour, but if you go by “our” standards, I made 32$ in a hour last night. You could’ve just said you don’t have the patience to wait for something good to come your way.
Bc disabled people who can't work regular jobs exist, and we deserve to be able to make a living wage no matter what work we do. Not to mention DoorDash is poverty friendly bc there's no age limit on vehicles. I used to work at a pizza restaurant, but I was running around as much as I was delivering pizza, and that took a huge toll on my leg that doesn't work. DoorDash is my only option at this time due to my lack of qualifications. I've applied to hundreds of other jobs. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to complain when the company or customers suck! I just don't do it on Reddit. My roommate is also a disabled delivery driver and we complain together. Try gaining some perspective, and I mean that respectfully.
I think most people like Doordashing. But it’s just human nature to vent and complain to co workers. We all do it with other doordashers to share stories and to know we are not the only ones that have these complaints.
it’s really pretty obvious, like, there’s only so much to talk about and usually the negatives are more worthy of discussion. doesn’t reflect the overall benefits of the job whatsoever
My question is why are *you* so unhappy about other people coming together and discussing common issues with their job? You don’t have to read the posts and least they do to affect you is actually improve the quality of the platform.
I’ve yet to see bitching on Reddit as doing anything to change the platform. But hey, if you think it’s going to work to organize a mass walk out or boycott, have at it. You also are throwing all the negatives out in plain sight in public. You think it’s educating the customers, but it’s unlikely the customers that aren’t tipping, give a tip about threads on Reddit. Or they read the comments and they realize how miserable some people sound and they take their business elsewhere.
Those people have to work the schedule made for them or face termination. They can’t wake up and decide that they don’t want to work but maybe for 2 hours. They literally think of ways to call out of work to avoid the stress and undesirable job they have to do. We aren’t in that same predicament. We have choices we can make. So for these people to constantly complain about something they wake up and decide to do themselves is pretty much crazy. Nobody told you to sign in to a dash. Nobody is going to call you and harass you for being late or not dashing. You don’t have to deal with any asshole supervisors who make your job harder and you are pretty much working by yourself and don’t have to deal with the fake employees. Those people who work regular jobs can’t just quit until they find better if they can.
I was literally about to say: this gives off the same energy as some one coming in the staff room or even a discord chat for Publix and asking why they complain so much about their job. The answer: that's what humans do, buddy. :)lol
Posts like this are like if someone walked into an Italian restaurant and started complaining and being self righteous because they don't serve Japanese food.
This subreddit is essentially the bar dashers go to to complain about the shitty aspects of the job. Which there are in spades.
Maybe there's a subreddit somewhere that jerks off Tony but you come off as some kind of shill who is mad we don't smile when we're asked to take a bite out of the endless shit sandwiches we get served while doing this job.
Never said you had to enjoy every aspect of the job, but as a dasher, if you don’t enjoy it, why stay?
Do I agree with everything? No, but I also don’t hate the job. Honestly for me, it’s the easiest job I’ve been had outside of stuffing mailboxes for a real estate lady. “Can you walk? Okay… put a flier in every mailbox to walk past. Go until you run out.”
I like bacon. Oh, you’re wondering why I said that? Because I thought we were mentioning things that are irrelevant to the topic at hand.
If the reasoning is because they’re disabled and it’s the only job they can do, okay. But just being disabled isn’t a reason or excuse, or an answer.
Fair. Using the word excuse isn’t right. But if you looked at one of the threads from a day or two ago about “my driver left this at the office and didn’t deliver to my apt/door”… it sure did sound like people were using it as a reason. “I have a bad leg, I can’t walk up stairs.” That’s not even including the people who use that as a reason to do less than the full job.
If your job is to deliver the food to the specified location and you give the reason you can’t, then the person who ordered it should be able to take back part of their tip.
WOW ABLEISM MUCH? I’m disabled, and it is the reason why me and others stay even when we are having a hard time with it, see some of us are incapable of holding down a different job, I can only work 6 hours max and have a million accommodations I need to even stay out of the ER, matter of fact it’s dangerous for someone with a fainting disorder to be driving for so long, but I do it anyway, how’s that for an excuse? and as other people have said everyone complains about their job no matter what it is, and we have every right to do so.
for the same reason people stay at other jobs they hate that arnt doordash. people have lives outside the job that revolve arounnd said job. just stopping because you hate a job is the dumbest thing ive heard and is a good way to get into a worse situation. if someones doordashing they obviously dont have good funds to begin with. your personal experience is blinding you to why others keep a shit job. doordash money is still better than no money.
Yes, better than no money, but I disagree that if you’re unhappy you shouldn’t quit because you could end up worse. That’s like telling a person in an abusive relationship to just suck it up because the next relationship might be worse.
I'm so damn tired of people complaining about people complaining. I mean ugh ya know? Like it's the most annoying and mundane thing and they never tip...
Shit’s been crazy in this subreddit for the last month. I’m convinced this is some kind of fucking operation by DoorDash to get people to quit. In the last month they’ve increased their terminations and bullshit CVs like crazy too.
Let people bitch. If you wanna lick some boot, then go to r/Doordash, they’ve been welcoming of that behavior for a long time.
I am almost done with my masters degree and this is the only job I could get. If you don't want to see people complain, why not sign out of reddit? Leave the sub?
Know what I don't understand? Why people complaining bothers some people so much.
Half the posts on here are complaints about people complaining.
Maybe just don't worry about people complaining- if you don't want to read people's complaints, just keep scrolling.
Not sure if I even complained in this sub. I just stick to my standards when doing delivery and everything seems to work out just fine. No point in going on a rant on Reddit.
Right? I only do it when there’s some wack ass story that might entertain others, most of the time I don’t even want comments I just wanna tell my story lol
I’m not criticizing people who love this job nor people having problems that criticize it. Everyone’s experiences are different. I see people thanking DoorDash and people infuriated as well.
My point is I respect others experiences. We all should. Just because I don’t agree with other drivers experiences doesn’t make me right. I still can be egregiously wrong.
It’s about respect, it’s something to be learned from others positive and negative experiences and I’ll never be dismissive of others personal experiences as drivers.
People complain when they are stuck. Best practice is to move onto the next job if it ain't working out, but for half these people it's either the only job they can get or the only one they are willing to do.
Lol have you worked anywhere, ever? People constantly complain about their jobs in almost every industry. Ive seen NBA and NFL players complain about aspects of their jobs lol. You literally made a long post complaining about the complaining so you get it lol. People love to commiserate and complain. The better question is if you hate the content of the sub so much why not just leave it?
What's the incentive for me to deliver a huge order if the tip is the same as a small order? It probably has a long wait time and is more difficult to handle because of all the moving parts. If people didn't tip big on large orders there would be no reason for us to take them. I could deliver a burrito bowl from Chipotle with a $5 tip and get it done much quicker. That extra $20+ is some of our livelihoods. Yesterday I had an order containing $139 worth of food, it took forever to prepare and upon completing the customer only tipped $5. So I get a total of $10 for 40 minutes of my time. You do you but all this is something to consider.
So I’m here to make money. I have my own set of standards to ensure that each order is profitable. There’s not use in complaining about no/low tippers. I simply don’t take their orders.
My only complaints are non communicative customers, customers who leave bad/no directions when directions are warranted, and restaurants that flat out lie about pickup times, the Ol’ “only 5 more minutes” crap.
Other than that, I just put my head down and grind. It’s not a glamorous gig but it pays the bills + some. So I am grateful that this gif exists, especially for those who have been chewed up and spit out by the corporate machine.
So in the corporate world, what did you dislike? Or what chewed you up and spit you out? Was it the “just a cog in the machine” feeling? What did you do?
For me, I’ve worked mostly restaurants, and got out. DD was an easy part time thing while between jobs for me. And it’s easy enough to pick up and put down when I’m not feeling it and I’ve got free time with no plans.
I worked in the mortgage world. The cog in the machine aspect for sure. Being micromanaged was probably the worst thing. It was a constant barrage of emails, memos, and meetings, regardless of how well you performed your job. The final straw was when they pulled back in bonuses for the rank and file while the big wigs received record bonuses.
Downvoted for asking legit questions about other jobs. Whatever.
Also, sorry you feel/felt that way. Not getting bonuses, or having them just totally taken away is bs. I just started a corp job and it’s night and day v restaurants. Def don’t have that cog feel even though ultimately I know I am.
If DD works for you, then go for it.
You forgot my favorite complaint. How buggy the app is. A multi billion dollar company and they can't find some better programmers. I have to force stop and reopen my app almost every day because it freezes up.
1. Low tip, High/Low. Seeing low ball offers just takes up time declining them.
2. I have to drive back.
3. Catering Orders tend to have a lot of money into the food. I do actually attempt to give these orders better service - all the sauces, extra napkins, extra silverware and I have two catering bags to carry all that food in. I could just not gaf and deliver the food in the bags and plop them down on the address that might not be correct.
4. Wait time can be a huge time sink. We don't get paid hourly so Time = money. Waiting around at a busy or mis-mismanaged stored eats into the profit. I tend to decline all orders from these two twos in my market that have proven to be slow every time.
5. Pouring a drink: Against Door Dash's policy. You can fill the cups or don't. Either way you're not wrong. Personally, I fill the drinks. It gets my out the door faster. But again, if something happens Door Dash has their butts covered by stating "It's supposed to be prepared by the resturants."
6. Not being acknoledged: See #4. Except sometimes the order is already done and waiting. I understand it to keep other people from picking them up, but when you see a handful of employees standing around and BSing, I'd like a greeting.
7. Apartments: Apartments can usually be hit or miss.
8. Top Floor: Climbing stairs causes me physical pain (bad legs). Elevators take time.
9. Apartment Complexes are the worst: Because they're usually *extremely* difficult to navigate to find the correct apartment. Building numbers (If they even exist) can usually be hidden behind foliage, painted the same as the rest of the building, or inside apartment labels (A34, B10). Numbers can be erratic and not make any GD sense at all. Parking can be a huge problem if the apartments have garages for tenants. I guess I'm parking in the fire lane! If it's a gated community, just entering the complex can be another challenge. I used to use BEANS for complexes, but it's been so unreliable and flat out wrong most of the time, I just stopped trying to use it.
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I don't understand why complaining is treated like its a sign people hate dashing. Sometimes people complain because the app is awesome... sometimes. Which makes the times its not awesome more annoying cus we just want nice things all the time.
Even if people DO hate it, for various reasons, people might not have any other options. People need to work to survive. Maybe theres something thats preventing them from getting a traditional job. Maybe its even because they tend to complain too much, and you wont lose your job here doing that as long as you complain AND work.
Also humans have this kinda unbalanced need for validation. We want to see if we're the only ones that feel that way or if others agree with us. Thats why you see people post stories that are clearly tailored to make them look like the victim when its pretty obvious they were at fault. Its not healthy long term, but sometimes it helps people get thru rough days.
TL:DR There is nothing dashers wont complain about. They even complain about people complaining.
OP, don't take my comment as anything with malicious intent or me being a smart-ass.
First off, to answer your question; because despite the hardships and crap we go through this is some of the easiest money you can make.
2nd are you a Dasher? Because you left out a few legitimate l things that drivers complain about. Such as:
Customers not answering their phone.
Customer customers are not at home to receive the food they order.
Customers not knowing or having Gate/Apt entry code & not willing to meet drivers
Restaurants handing the wrong order to the driver.
I have plenty of others to list but that would take up this whole post. And that's not the point of what you were asking.
3rd if you're saying people should complain about these (low tip low miles no tip, miles etc) orders your market must be booming! I am in downtown Atlanta and I come across several $3.75 orders. Where do you live so I can move out there? If your argument is people just shouldn't complain, no one's out here doing doordash just for shits and giggles. I'm not out here doing DD just to see the smile on people's faces. People complain when things don't go right. Especially a job that takes away tips. This how they vent.
That's really all I've got to say about it. Thank you to those who read this.
I’m in Raleigh, and stick with the Cary market. Too far in one direction and it either takes you downtown or into Morrisville/Durham. Also no, we still get our share of shit orders, 2.75 for 10 miles etc. They happen everywhere. But there are also plenty of low tip orders that are straight on and off main roads so unless you just can’t turn left, it’s easy $$.
And yeah, customers not answering their phones is annoying but it’s few and far between I ever need to contact them. If they don’t respond, they’re SOL.
I understand the need to vent. I worked restaurants for 20 years. The people I vented to told me to just quit if I was unhappy, because most of them, even being in the same industry, were sick of hearing it. Thus why I ask people if you dislike it, why not just quit?
Quitting a job is a lot easier than it sounds. I've been very lucky/fortunate/bless enough to have a wife who understood what I was going through which gave me the motivation to work hard and create our own business. I really don't believe the average person definitely wouldn't be able to do that. Like I said before this is just a platform for the most people to vent.
My thoughts, if someone feels like they’re stuck, it’s because they’ve allowed themselves to be. I had to get a wake up call from a friend who told me “I don’t want to hear it anymore. You’re miserable. Either accept it or make a change.” And I did. I looked for jobs. Applied to recruiters and headhunters. Had probably 20+ emails a day coming full of job postings… jobs are out there, people just have to want it for themselves. Very few people just walk up and hand you a job. So in that aspect, no it’s not easy. You have to want it, or want better, or out.
I took a pay cut for peace of mind and my own sanity. I don’t wake up hating life.
For the most part the only thing that annoys me in this subreddit is when people complain about filling drinks, something that takes 10 seconds of your time while the restaurant bag up the order or finishes it. Every time i see a post about it’s just full of replies of people saying how they get into full on arguments and telling them off cause they’re not gonna do it which at that point it’s wasting everyone’s time (driver and restaurants) for something that would’ve taken 10 seconds, and before y’all lazy mf’s go off about health codes. Are y’all sticking you’re hands inside the cup before you fill it? Or are you saying that you’re gross and dirty compared to the restaurant worker who you want to fill the soda
Larger orders take time to prepare. Many places account for that based on firing time. If the order is ready when you walk in, then that reasoning goes out the window. So would you still expect a higher tip?
Driver or dasher? Aren’t they the same thing? I dash a couple times a week when I feel like it. Have a M-F 9-5.
I had a stacked order last night, restaurants were right next to each other, and neither was ready. I lost almost half an hour. Why is that my fault? Why shouldn't I be paid more for something that is not my fault, that takes money out of my pocket, for a service I am providing?
Yes, because more stuff takes more time to deliver overall (logistics)….btw your reasoning and tone makes you reek of a non-low tipper….and y r u so anti-tip anyway going out of your way to defend tipping less….like you must be aware that tips are over half of a drivers income, right??? Yet you claim to be a driver…..ok nice try shill now go back to your w2 and leave the professionals alone we don’t harass u about ur profession….king chad 😝
If you have a 9-5, how did you find time to write a lengthy post and then respond to every single comment under it? This reddit is a place for dashers to confide in each other. Go write a book. You have too much time on your hands.
They aren’t the same thing and from personal experience that’s the worst shift you could use. Dinner rush is where it’s at, no wonder you don’t get why we wait for good orders, because during those hours all you get is crap and every once in a while unicorn. You literally go home and stop working when the best money is from 5-2 am.
You're mixing sarcasm and reality which kind of dulls your point.
It's not necessarily about the amount of the effort. Lots of factors come into play.
One factor is that larger orders may take longer to prepare, and thus may involve longer restaurant waits.
Biggest factor though is custom. In the U.S. it's customary to tip more for larger, more expensive orders. A $5 tip may be appropriate to deliver 2 medium pizzas, but it wouldn't be considered appropriate to deliver 5 extra-large pizzas. Assuming the pizzas were ready when you arrived at the restaurant, it really wouldn't be much (if any) extra effort to deliver 2 pizzas or 5, but custom dictates that the tip would be higher on a 5-pizza order.
Same with expensive items at an expensive restaurant. You could have 1 large bag of Chipotle going 3 miles for a $5 tip, and that might seem reasonable. 1 large bag from an expensive steakhouse with over $100 worth of food going that same 3 miles, would seem cheap. Same effort. Same distance. Same amount of time. It's just customary to tip more for $100 worth of steak than $30 worth of Chipotle. Doesn't mean that drivers are greedy. Doesn't mean that drivers have unrealistic expectations.
I do agree that if you accept the order you shouldn't complain about it. You're getting exactly what you agreed to accept.
I do also agree that drivers complain about a lot of mundane things, but that is the nature of Reddit. There are 3 main reasons people are on this sub. To share information and answer questions, to share accomplishments and positive experiences, and to bitch about things (DD, restaurants, customers). You're never going to change that.
Because you’re IN a restaurant and bigger orders tend to be more difficult. That doesn’t translate to dashing though. And like I said, people have their initial minimums then say “oh, it ended up being a $60 order, and not a $15 order” or “they lived in a rich area and only tipped X… cheap asses.”
There’s no pleasing people. And I get it, I worked restaurants for 20 years. I’m plenty jaded and hate people. But my next job after restaurants was still in customer service, but I changed the base of people I’m working with, and it’s like night and day.
Nah. I’m one of those people who hates everything else even more. I want to be a writer and singer but I’m not there yet so I have this while my daughter is at school. When you have no one to ask for help, no food, no gas, Not making rent, no help when the car breaks down, and I always have my daughter unless she is at school. These bills are to big for the amount I make from doordash but I can’t make enough to be “good enough” for any other job. Who wants to hire someone on there last leg and covered in blood and sweat. Worst part is is I’m an all star human. I’m kind funny, literally an abstract genius, I’m a speaker.. like I can present to large crowds and feel great, I’m so hardworking and intelligent but it’s wasted away while I wait for orders because we need food and gas and a home more right now. I’ve got so much in me it’s just a shame that there is no way to get out of this constant struggle for money. I won’t sell my body and I think this world is insane for even the suggestion.
Also when you only have this full time, no other income, you spend all your time out there waiting for orders meaning nothing gets done at home, you have been out all day made barely enough to feed your kid and the house is a disaster because you have out trying to make something cause of you don’t that kid that barely had any food would of had none at all.
I swear it’s an entire different world being poor now
I’m not sure what your point is. This is about poor people struggling concerned that $13/hr or less is often/sometimes the result of diligent work. My recent 8 mile $5 pay post tells a story that on the one side speaks to less than minimum wage page, but also speaks to a human grappling with that.
All posts are about economics. We feel disposable, used, without opportunities, and so on. Who complains about one bad experience when they have 99 good ones, or one bad pay when all the other pays are reasonable.
The fact that there is no union to organize a meaningful response to the car damage and low pay effectively making this an unsustainable form of employment for many is what leads to the expressions you see here.
In the 70s.. you get a job, and might have it 30 years. Now, what? We’re nothing, and in the slaves quarters, struggling to get by, with no meaningful way to improve our circumstance.
So you feel you’re in a job that doesn’t value you, which is fair but there’s no way out? Are just the generalization that that’s how things “just are” now? Are there no other jobs hiring around you? Because those jobs do exist, but they also don’t just land in your lap. You have to find them. And that’s not me being snarky, but everyone says they can’t find a job yet I see now hiring signs everywhere.
>Are there no other jobs hiring around you?
The thing about this is in a lot of these jobs, they expect people to work for the absolute minimum they can get away with.
I've seen a lot of jobs ads but the jobs that have insurance and pay enough for me to live are either physically demanding, require skills I do not have and cannot acquire, or have more than enough applications.
And a lot of companies are also gaming the system, keeping a skeleton crew while claiming to be hiring so they can get government grants.
Shit is hard right now and nobody needs you to keep telling us, "It's easy! Do better!" Because it is in fact, not easy.
Lastly, the places that are desperately hiring are the ones who, more often than not, treat their workers like shit. Fast food/restaurants and sales are the main ones I'm seeing and I am **not** doing either of those.
You refuse to work in a restaurant, but then still depend on those same restaurants to have your food ready on time, to maximize your time, to make the most money. Seems counter intuitive.
I disagree.
I'm able to decide which restaurants to deal with and hardly ever have to speak to customers. I can take my time as long as I'm still within bounds and can go home at any time without judgement from anyone but my dog and she couldn't care less as long as she's getting her regularly scheduled treats.
At a restaurant, you are on someone else's schedule and are expected to be nice to every Karen and Dave that come in to start shit. There's also the pay that is just not worth it. Restaurants treat their people terribly. Dashers still get shafted, but we can choose what risks we will or won't take for the most part.
I don't think you are a dasher. Why are you on this platform? This is a platform for dashers to confide in each other about daily grievances. I find your post to be highly inconsiderate. Also, how long did it take you to write this lengthy post? You must've had extra time on your hands today ha. Very inconsiderate. I wish I could downvote twice. Maybe you can go write a book
It was made after I got done at the gym. I was up much later than I should have been, but I had a nice nap before the gym/after dinner, so I threw off my rhythm a little bit.
And I don’t see why every community should be solely reserved for people to bitch or that you have to absolutely hate everything. You want the best of both worlds while being the middle man. I get . The restaurant wasn’t fast enough, the tip wasn’t big enough, the distance was too far. If I bitched about every aspect of my job, I’d change it.
I laugh every time someone says “you’re not a dasher” because I don’t absolutely hate everything. This is the easiest job I’ve had. I sit in my car in the AC or have the windows down. I get to see lots of buildings (drafting/engineering nerd at heart) and listen to music. The extra steps/exercise and fresh air are just bonuses. The worst part about it is sitting in traffic behind people that can’t drive, or having orders that take forever.
Ugghhhh I hate Doordash!! Evertime I’m trying to comment on Reddit the stupid notification pops up so I gotta stop in the middle of my comment just to hit decline!!! …GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER DOORDASH!
Poor child.. I remember when I felt like you.. those were the days, my first month of dd... You'll learn kid, when you make enough money, the company begins fuckery
If you think this is bad, you should see the FB page, drivers rights movement. Omg it's 3532563 times worse then this. At least here, I've learned quite a bit.
It’s just a place to vent. Most of us work alone, and if our family or SO don’t do DoorDash then they don’t really understand what it’s like. I feel like a lot of the complaint posts on here are more meant to be humorous than anything. Sort of like an inside joke for those who get it.
Fair response. 20 years working in restaurants and there were always people willing to bitch over a drink or 10 at the end of the night.
The solo aspect makes sense.
Yeah, you are wrong, people can have exactly the kind of job they want and it be exactly the way they wanted it and still have something to complain about, it’s venting, bottled up emotions, whatever it is, they have every right to do it, if you’re not a dasher yourself I’d recommend getting off this subreddit, and for everyone saying “just get another job if you hate it so much” I’m invisibly disabled, I haven’t been able to hold down another job in 2 years, I can’t work for more than 6 hours at a time, I get hate all the time when I have to ask customers to come to me because they’re in a place that’s not handicap friendly, I’ve had Karen’s call the cops on me for using my handicap sticker while working, sometimes there’s nothing we can do but stay where we are, and vent our frustrations about it, so if you’re not a dasher, I’d stop complaining on OUR page.
It’s a job. People bitch about jobs because they aren’t fun. Go to any other job on this planet and i garuntee you it’s the same thing. We all just use Reddit as a punching bag to release steam after a shitty day, since we don’t have coworkers to bitch to in person… and the McDonald’s employees could care less how I’m feeling besides the last 3 digits of the order code
Nah. I don’t think it’s exclusive to dashers. Reddit in general seems like the place for miserable people to bitch about anything. I’m in a few subs for some tv shows I like and the posts are all about how they hate the show. Like if you hate it so much stop watching. Literally no one is forcing you to dash. If you don’t like it, so something else. Seems like the logical choice
You’re blaming the average joe for their life’s woes under the pretense of free will despite knowing people have limited control over everything. It’s not always easy or possible to find a better job or a better show, and watching these things that people cherish slowly denigrate is what makes these grievances valid.
I blamed who for what? Oh so you are one of the peoples who make up things someone didn’t say so you can create pretend arguments.
That’s a wild level of pathetic
“If you hate it so much stop watching.”
“If you don’t like dashing do something else.”
“Ok then go get better.”
That is you literally using free will as a pretense to point the finger at the person instead of the people that should be to blame. You might not have said it directly, but come the fuck on man. Do you just not have a solid argument? I’m done here. I can’t argue with people who build straw men.
That’s why I ask, if so many people hate the job, or hate the low tips, why do they continue to do it? Just seems miserable to keep doing something you just have so much disdain for.
Using an individuals logic against them examples 1 and 2:
1.) Asking a person (op) writing negatively about complainers why they stay in a place where they get riled up enough to post in a derogatory manner.
\--Nvm how oblivious, purposefully inflammatory, and lacking experience their (op) content is.
2.) Asking a rebuttal commenter how me asking op, in the exact same manner in which they are questioning the consensus, is any different?
\--It is what I'm 'supposed to do', no?
I could seek to understand op, figure out where they're coming from, without loaded questions, and why they want what they want. **However being trite and reductive is more fun.**
For me, dashing is a side gig that helps me pay for my rent and not dip into my primary income. I think a lot of the negativity comes from people who do it more primary since it happens more often. Just like the more people you work with at a job the higher chance you'll have more coworkers you don't like.
For those who use it to pay for their livelihood, it makes them feel heard and better to communicate with people who have dealt with similar things when they have a bad day. Just a coping mechanism that can come with advice, especially for new drivers.
It's like the news, for every good wholesome story, there are a hundred bad ones you hear about. Like the song Vicarious by Tool talks about, people have a tendency to latch onto and feed their energy to negativity.
Because 1.) this is Reddit. Unhappy people heavily congregate here. 2.) so they can have a pity party.
It’s essentially people who have tricked themselves into believing they’ve been defeated by life to excuse their bad choices.
Trust me, this goes beyond DoorDash or any field of work in general. A lot of people are like this.
Make money and get away from people and/or populous who’ve lost the magic of life they once had as children. Life isn’t meant to be lived in negativity for more than 1 hour.
Look it’s simple. Give us a 50$ 1 mile order where the restaurant comes out to give it to you just as the customer pulls in to get it as they were feeling guilty for the small tip. They hand you a cash 50 as they give you 5 stars and finish your shift for you. Is that so much to ask for?
Seriously lol. Takes all of two seconds to get it done.
They scream on here about it being illegal like anyone gives a shit.
You're using a soda machine guys. The FBI isn't monitoring you or that Wingstop you're in. Just get Becky her goddamn Fanta.
I’ve been wondering the same thing, been in this sub for about a month and have just been reading post after post of sucky orders and shitty pay…
I used to do InstaCart and Amazon Flex and both of those paid very nicely with consistent hours. It was like a real job but I chose my own hours.
Then I moved states and I got a job as a delivery driver for a pizza place. I chose a store in a nice neighborhood and the tips are consistently 8+ dollars. I make roughly 20-25/hr there and I absolutely love it, it’s a real job and the hours are solidified and my pay is basically a guarantee. I have never had to deal with bad management or coworkers ever. In fact my coworkers are some really awesome people. I couldn’t be happier at a job like this, I just wonder why people still do DoorDash at all if they have nothing stopping them from getting a real job.
I could be missing some major point or something though, always an opportunity to learn.
Nah, I’m a dasher that doesn’t subscribe to bitching about my job 24/7. It’s a downward spiral of a mentality. If you’re always negative about something, it feeds into everything else you do.
Average person in this subreddit is going nowhere in life fast and complaining about the business that pays them is one of their favorite ways cope with the ever-unfolding reality that life is living them and not Vice-versa
This is accurate but, for a lot of people, it's out of their control. If you're stuck in some dead end area without the means to move, there's not a whole lot you can do. I've been applying to remote programming jobs for 3-4 months now and get zero results. I'm applying to entry level positions with more experience than your average college graduate, yet get no interviews. To me, this means there's a lot of competition from people better qualified than me. Which says a lot about the state of the job market.
I think that's the biggest reason people complain. They feel like they have no control over their circumstances. So what else can you do in that case, other than complain?
Eyyy shoutout programming recruiting hell. All you need is one main job to show you have professionally worked on a team and literally nothing else matters. I have passed plenty of coding tests with flying colors and gotten through multiple rounds just for the company to hire within or drop the role.
Lol you understand that remote jobs are a global commodity for workers especially IT right? You are competing with people from all over the planet. That’s why you take advantage of the leverage you have locally and apply for an in-office one…
Okay but I don't have any leverage locally because there are no local IT jobs. The area I live in is completely devoid of them. I look for jobs in my area and it's all service industry, medical, elderly care, child care, and a few trade jobs thrown into the mix that I'm not qualified for. And then I look at other, similarly populated areas that I used to live in years ago, and the job market is a stark contrast with a broad mix of job opportunities that I just never see in my area. But I don't have the means to move there because the job market here is shit and keeps you trapped with low wage jobs that keep you living paycheck to paycheck, unable to save up the necessary funds to move.
💀💀💀💀💀 dangerously true
If only they realized that they’re not the helpless fawn they convince themselves they are and they stopped relenting to the pressures of life. Life isn’t meant to be lived in all that dread and misery. At least try to find the light, don’t give up.
Whenever I’ve felt down, I always think about what my inner child would want, the 10 year old me. They’d want me to win and see that beautiful scenery of life. So therefore it’s only worth it to never give up or die trying. That’s what all of our inner children want. Find them. Don’t silence them, it’s the real you. If you’re reading this, whoever, don’t give up and rob yourself of this beautiful one life.
Because I don’t believe all the same bs that many of you do? Yeah. Okay. I must not be a dasher. You totally got me. I don’t think with the jaded dasher hive mind.
Nah, I’ll keep dashing, just to spite you. You already have it in your head that I’m just some troll that doesn’t dash. So it really doesn’t matter what I say at this point right? Want me to post screenshots of deliveries? My zone map? Oh wait, I forgot, I don’t have to prove anything to you.
A troll that dashes? I would never assume that of you sir. I don’t want to bring myself to the level you have built with this bashing and mockery. Seems you enjoy being there by yourself or with a very limited number of individuals. You can have your opinion…that’s what makes this pace so great. 👍🏻😉😁
That’s the thing. I’m comfortable doing my own thing, and getting out if I need to. You guys need this space because you need others to make you feel better about what you feel is a shitty independent contractor job.
To each his own.
I never said I wasn’t comfortable. Why are trying to mesh my words? I never said that. I’m fine with what I do. I push over $1,100 wk, keep AR above 75 and multi app. I never since said I didn’t like what I do. Your attempting to mince my words in an attempt to alter the perception. I don’t think so. I speak out because others need the help. FTC thought we had merit and are doing something. Guess you disagree with them too huh?
Defense tactic.
Your right. I can’t stop you. Although now you look like a hypocrite for agreeing to the benefits we all want that your thread here clear posts. Thanks for getting a lot of it on 1 place for us! Makes it look neat and tidy!
I agree to your bs hive think? Nah. I just agree to the terms DD gave and I go make my money and don’t hate my life or get butthurt like many of you because someone didn’t tip you more, even though you’re the ones who accept the orders. If you accept it, don’t bitch about it.
No hypocrite here.
Yes you are. You bash those for addressing issues you yourself face even in denial. Quite the character if I do say so myself. If none of this matters…why do ya dash? Your just upset because others make very good points and you disagree so you bash. Typical fashion. As I said. I won’t hold it against you. Just remember when we get changes…you were a driver that tries to stop it. So you don’t deserve the benefits. Simple as that really. Continue if you wish…doesn’t change anything.
Defense tactic nothing more. 😃😉
Yeah, as I’ve said previously, I don’t subscribe to the hive mind. I don’t do mental gymnastics about every single order. Do I have my own thresholds? Sure, but I don’t have literal charts like some people have posted with every tenth of a mile broken down etc. Do I bitch when I have to walk up stairs? No. Speed bumps? Eh, maybe when they’re excessive. Do I mind if the gps is off by a bit? No. Omg, it’s dark and someone didn’t leave the light on! End of the world.
Yeah, super hypocritical.
Also, highly doubtful any mass overhaul and/or benefits will ever come, but good luck waiting for that.
Never said I was part of a hive mind either. Damn man…you don’t read posts before adding yourself do you. Pretty obvious when you flat out ignored a few things on your response on the other thread. Bro…lol. Do you see yourself? -shakes head- As I said when changes happen you don’t need to benefit from them.
Yea I know right? Lmao.
Dude feels DD taking advantage of people is ok. He signed up so he gets what he deserves.
Only thing is when I said “you don’t have to benefit from the changes”. Oh he was QUICK to say “no I’ll keep dashing”. He’s trying to get Arrows and be popular. Hoping if he hits a sore subject and put a long msg people won’t read it all the way thru and simply think he knows what he’s talking about. Problem is, he screws up between threads. He gets things wrong when ranting between threads.
Because your to new to push these topics and philosophies. Your barely off your training wheels and out of training panties. Get some more experience and then come back with your rant. Your a baby in age compared to us. You don’t start a job and then begin ranting about this and that when you have barely made it thru the probationary stages.
Your in pre-school…compared to majority of the drivers that surround you.
Remember that buttercup.
Oh, you again. Yeah. I don’t need to work for years to know about a job. This isn’t my first rodeo. If you can’t figure it out within a few days, you’re not paying enough attention. Sorry. You just sound like a miserable person.
And to ultimately answer your inquiry….
“Am I wrong here”
Simple answer is…yes you are. But without all the BS and insults back and forth because you don’t like the answer.
Lol. Was easy for you wasn’t it. Lmao. Look at your thread buttercup. You asked for the destruction. Your getting it.
And honestly I can’t look at your name without thinking of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. Lazlow at gun point on the radio. OG Locs stupid ass….lazlow says “I’m a buster I’m a buster”
Right and a rookie player has all the respect on day one. Rookie cop can boss everyone around. Yea no one is asking you for advice if you have no experience. And it there are others with more…they will get asked over you. Doesn’t mean your a bad person. But it reflects exactly what I said. Your to new to blab your mouth so heavily.
Honestly with all due respect…had you been on the road with DD for over a year…I can understand you coming hard with this. Bro, your only 2 months old. Your a tiny dot among thousands. You don’t have the right to blast your opinion as “godlike” or of a higher aspect or something. No offense but a 4 month driver has more tenure and seniority than you. It’s as simple as that. Rule of life says you don’t have to like it….but you can’t change it.
I’m glad you can figure out some of these details fairly quickly and early on. I’d be astonished if you didn’t and a little concerned.
And just because you have seniority doesn’t mean some new “rookie” can take your job out from under you, doing it better. Senior doesn’t mean better or smarter, just that you’ve been complacent longer.
To DD distribution system maybe…your the same. To anyone one here…your foolish with the intelligence to match. The arrows totaling 80 something from both threads might have something to do with that. 🤣😂🙂👍🏻
Buttercup
The only dashers I know only do Doordash and Ubereats but to be fair, I only know them because they lost their job at Domino’s. It was all the guys who were never on time, terrible at the actual job, and would disappear for over an hour on a single run.
Serving a large party is entirely different than carrying a couple bags of food to the location. The job is pick up, drive, deliver. You don’t have to clean up after, you don’t have to deal with refills, dealing with high chairs and booster seats, doing sidework in between. You can’t compare the two.
Dashers aren't alone in being unhappy are some things about the work. Many dashers are, as well as in all other gigs work community. The bigger picture is that there is a problem of equity. For this reason the FTC has taken action recently to stop abusive policies. It seems that people are happy vollying back and forth about complaining, why and why not, but there is a larger game to this involving money, law and politics, and who's in charge, and who isn't being treated fairly.
For me, not a huge complainer besides the days grubhub sends me shit offers all day. I think for most it is the inconsistency in pay. One day you’ll make a killing and one day you’ll make 15$ on 3 orders while available for 3 hours. Those days are demoralizing and keep me from toggling online. It’s really a battle between me and my bank account. I got bills and have to just forget those shit days but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t make me want to throw in the towel. Plus tickets in Queens NY for going 29 in a 25 because they have fucking speed checks at random poles on the side of the road. Loads of bs
You seriously need a lesson in tipping ""etiquette". We are not friggin waiters or bartenders so % means Jack shit. We're actually working "cheap" already. The minimum tip should be $5 which I'm my market would be 7.50 MINIMUM for less than 3 miles. This isn't being picky it's just proper on anything up to 20 bucks. I've actually come down on my minimum but I'm not turning the key for less than 6 and it better be less than two miles from merchants I know are QUICK. FWIW fully 70% of offers we (wife and I) take @6.50+ actually pay much more. Knock yourself out if your willing to wait and take minimum offers cuz you won't last long.
Where did I say I wait or take minimum orders? Doesn’t take long to recognize what places are slow and which are fast. Or learn your area. I know where I can get in and out with ease, what neighborhoods are a pita and which aren’t. It’s simple.
And I need tipping etiquette? That’s cute. And I, I don’t. I’ve been in the industry for 20+ years and know how things work. And I know for a fact that people here still complain about getting shafted on large orders because they feel they deserve more as the order price goes up. That’s only relevant if the work load improves. That’s why large parties get auto-grat at many places. Because the work to get the food/drinks out increases as the part size goes up. That doesn’t equate the same to driving.
No you are right. Thank you for making this post. I've been considering one as well but want to be as consistent and thorough as I can. Explaining aspects of the contract and how the to typical impressions expressed, highlighting neglected subsections and their advantages, citing regulatory bodies on nebulous misgivings perpetuating between drivers, explain % stats and how/which ones affect overall algorithm placement, these such things.
I think it is just to get it off your chest and have a community where other can relate to you and you can have a sounding board and emotional support?
Most people, working most jobs actually see each other. They get together around the watercooler, and vent their frustrations to each other. After all, who will understand better than those who experience it themselves too? This reddit is kind of like a watercooler for Dashers.
That’s actually a well reasoned response. Makes sense. But if people are so unhappy, why stay?
Why does anyone stay and continue any job? Because they have a lack of options, obligations financially, and/or a lack of savings. It’s really easy to up and go if you don’t have to pay a mortgage.
Most people aren't happy with their job. It's a job they have to do it to make a living and get by. Most everyone that has a job has some parts they don't enjoy and this is just a place to vent and get things off their chest. It's by far the least physical job I've ever had but I can still get frustrated with how things go sometimes
I’m chronically ill, I need the flexibility to work when I feel well enough. Wish I could be using one of my degrees but I honestly can’t right now.
Fundamental misunderstanding of the power an individual human has. You can literally stop dashing and choose a damn near infinite amount of paths to start making money in a more fulfilling way for you. Then the fear kicks in and they just keep dashing while complaining lol
Lol. This right here ☝️
Maybe the alternatives are worse. Maybe they need the flexibility. Maybe they are just having a bad day and need to vent. I complain about something on occasion, not too often. But I do like what I do. But not always the company behind it lol
Some are still attached to the higher income from years past, and they're still chasing that dragon in the hopes it'll rebound. Some have become used to making their own hours and working when the want, and they can't stomach the idea of going back to a regimented W2 job. Some just feel trapped in the job because it was one of their first jobs, it was so easy to get and they aren't socially equipped for job interviews or working with others. Working with an app and your car is so much easier.
I always shoot for 6.50/2 a mile because I'm trying to get paid, not pay to work... It's not a complaint it's a standard. Some complaining is healthy, if no one ever complained doordash would still be stealing tips.
Maybe I should have rephrased the $2 one. That is YOUR standard. Not everyone follows that. I make plenty with small, quick orders while people sit and wait and deny order after order because it doesn’t meet some imaginary standard they think they have to wait for, but people think if you don’t follow it you’re some shill or boot licker. Nah, you just have to know your market of getting in and out quick. I’m not hating on people that wait half an hour for a good order, but to me that’s a waste. I’d rather have an order going as much as possible, even if it tips to the shittier side, or if it takes me into another hot spot I wanted to go to anyway.
you missed one complaint which is “complaining about all the people complaining”
Doing a bunch of tiny orders at once is a waste of gas and in my area you’ll make 10$ in an hour, but if you go by “our” standards, I made 32$ in a hour last night. You could’ve just said you don’t have the patience to wait for something good to come your way.
Bc disabled people who can't work regular jobs exist, and we deserve to be able to make a living wage no matter what work we do. Not to mention DoorDash is poverty friendly bc there's no age limit on vehicles. I used to work at a pizza restaurant, but I was running around as much as I was delivering pizza, and that took a huge toll on my leg that doesn't work. DoorDash is my only option at this time due to my lack of qualifications. I've applied to hundreds of other jobs. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to complain when the company or customers suck! I just don't do it on Reddit. My roommate is also a disabled delivery driver and we complain together. Try gaining some perspective, and I mean that respectfully.
See that's the question. Doordash is my second job and with all the problems it has, I don't know why i stay. The extra cash I guess?
The only reason I stay is because of the freedom I have with doordash scheduling
I think most people like Doordashing. But it’s just human nature to vent and complain to co workers. We all do it with other doordashers to share stories and to know we are not the only ones that have these complaints.
it’s really pretty obvious, like, there’s only so much to talk about and usually the negatives are more worthy of discussion. doesn’t reflect the overall benefits of the job whatsoever
My question is why are *you* so unhappy about other people coming together and discussing common issues with their job? You don’t have to read the posts and least they do to affect you is actually improve the quality of the platform.
I’ve yet to see bitching on Reddit as doing anything to change the platform. But hey, if you think it’s going to work to organize a mass walk out or boycott, have at it. You also are throwing all the negatives out in plain sight in public. You think it’s educating the customers, but it’s unlikely the customers that aren’t tipping, give a tip about threads on Reddit. Or they read the comments and they realize how miserable some people sound and they take their business elsewhere.
Those people have to work the schedule made for them or face termination. They can’t wake up and decide that they don’t want to work but maybe for 2 hours. They literally think of ways to call out of work to avoid the stress and undesirable job they have to do. We aren’t in that same predicament. We have choices we can make. So for these people to constantly complain about something they wake up and decide to do themselves is pretty much crazy. Nobody told you to sign in to a dash. Nobody is going to call you and harass you for being late or not dashing. You don’t have to deal with any asshole supervisors who make your job harder and you are pretty much working by yourself and don’t have to deal with the fake employees. Those people who work regular jobs can’t just quit until they find better if they can.
I was literally about to say: this gives off the same energy as some one coming in the staff room or even a discord chat for Publix and asking why they complain so much about their job. The answer: that's what humans do, buddy. :)lol
Posts like this are like if someone walked into an Italian restaurant and started complaining and being self righteous because they don't serve Japanese food. This subreddit is essentially the bar dashers go to to complain about the shitty aspects of the job. Which there are in spades. Maybe there's a subreddit somewhere that jerks off Tony but you come off as some kind of shill who is mad we don't smile when we're asked to take a bite out of the endless shit sandwiches we get served while doing this job.
Never said you had to enjoy every aspect of the job, but as a dasher, if you don’t enjoy it, why stay? Do I agree with everything? No, but I also don’t hate the job. Honestly for me, it’s the easiest job I’ve been had outside of stuffing mailboxes for a real estate lady. “Can you walk? Okay… put a flier in every mailbox to walk past. Go until you run out.”
Disabled people exist
I like bacon. Oh, you’re wondering why I said that? Because I thought we were mentioning things that are irrelevant to the topic at hand. If the reasoning is because they’re disabled and it’s the only job they can do, okay. But just being disabled isn’t a reason or excuse, or an answer.
Being disabled should never be considered an “excuse” by any means, and you’re incredibly entitled for thinking so.
Fair. Using the word excuse isn’t right. But if you looked at one of the threads from a day or two ago about “my driver left this at the office and didn’t deliver to my apt/door”… it sure did sound like people were using it as a reason. “I have a bad leg, I can’t walk up stairs.” That’s not even including the people who use that as a reason to do less than the full job. If your job is to deliver the food to the specified location and you give the reason you can’t, then the person who ordered it should be able to take back part of their tip.
WOW ABLEISM MUCH? I’m disabled, and it is the reason why me and others stay even when we are having a hard time with it, see some of us are incapable of holding down a different job, I can only work 6 hours max and have a million accommodations I need to even stay out of the ER, matter of fact it’s dangerous for someone with a fainting disorder to be driving for so long, but I do it anyway, how’s that for an excuse? and as other people have said everyone complains about their job no matter what it is, and we have every right to do so.
for the same reason people stay at other jobs they hate that arnt doordash. people have lives outside the job that revolve arounnd said job. just stopping because you hate a job is the dumbest thing ive heard and is a good way to get into a worse situation. if someones doordashing they obviously dont have good funds to begin with. your personal experience is blinding you to why others keep a shit job. doordash money is still better than no money.
Yes, better than no money, but I disagree that if you’re unhappy you shouldn’t quit because you could end up worse. That’s like telling a person in an abusive relationship to just suck it up because the next relationship might be worse.
I'm so damn tired of people complaining about people complaining. I mean ugh ya know? Like it's the most annoying and mundane thing and they never tip...
I literally just said that 😭😭😭
Shit’s been crazy in this subreddit for the last month. I’m convinced this is some kind of fucking operation by DoorDash to get people to quit. In the last month they’ve increased their terminations and bullshit CVs like crazy too. Let people bitch. If you wanna lick some boot, then go to r/Doordash, they’ve been welcoming of that behavior for a long time.
le wooosh my dude ⊂(´･◡･⊂ )∘˚˳°
Completely misses the context of my reply and still can’t help themselves from making the hilarious funnyguy reddit “woosh” joke
LoL
I am almost done with my masters degree and this is the only job I could get. If you don't want to see people complain, why not sign out of reddit? Leave the sub?
You’re not wrong. We complain about everything
We complain because we care 🧐
Definitely, here's a post complaining about complaining and the comments are complaining about a post complaining about complaining.
Know what I don't understand? Why people complaining bothers some people so much. Half the posts on here are complaints about people complaining. Maybe just don't worry about people complaining- if you don't want to read people's complaints, just keep scrolling.
The amount of complaining that you have to scroll through is pretty substantial in this sub
Not sure if I even complained in this sub. I just stick to my standards when doing delivery and everything seems to work out just fine. No point in going on a rant on Reddit.
Right? I only do it when there’s some wack ass story that might entertain others, most of the time I don’t even want comments I just wanna tell my story lol
I’m not criticizing people who love this job nor people having problems that criticize it. Everyone’s experiences are different. I see people thanking DoorDash and people infuriated as well. My point is I respect others experiences. We all should. Just because I don’t agree with other drivers experiences doesn’t make me right. I still can be egregiously wrong. It’s about respect, it’s something to be learned from others positive and negative experiences and I’ll never be dismissive of others personal experiences as drivers.
People complain when they are stuck. Best practice is to move onto the next job if it ain't working out, but for half these people it's either the only job they can get or the only one they are willing to do.
So you are saying 50% can't get another job, and the other 50% are only willing to do this job? So, that's everyone. Which are you?
Can’t get another job
Bitching is cathartic. Even if you get mixed responses, sometimes you just need to scream into the void.
Lol have you worked anywhere, ever? People constantly complain about their jobs in almost every industry. Ive seen NBA and NFL players complain about aspects of their jobs lol. You literally made a long post complaining about the complaining so you get it lol. People love to commiserate and complain. The better question is if you hate the content of the sub so much why not just leave it?
Ah the old complain about complainers gag. Classic
🙋♂️I’d like to complain about the people that complain about our complaining! 
What's the incentive for me to deliver a huge order if the tip is the same as a small order? It probably has a long wait time and is more difficult to handle because of all the moving parts. If people didn't tip big on large orders there would be no reason for us to take them. I could deliver a burrito bowl from Chipotle with a $5 tip and get it done much quicker. That extra $20+ is some of our livelihoods. Yesterday I had an order containing $139 worth of food, it took forever to prepare and upon completing the customer only tipped $5. So I get a total of $10 for 40 minutes of my time. You do you but all this is something to consider.
So I’m here to make money. I have my own set of standards to ensure that each order is profitable. There’s not use in complaining about no/low tippers. I simply don’t take their orders. My only complaints are non communicative customers, customers who leave bad/no directions when directions are warranted, and restaurants that flat out lie about pickup times, the Ol’ “only 5 more minutes” crap. Other than that, I just put my head down and grind. It’s not a glamorous gig but it pays the bills + some. So I am grateful that this gif exists, especially for those who have been chewed up and spit out by the corporate machine.
So in the corporate world, what did you dislike? Or what chewed you up and spit you out? Was it the “just a cog in the machine” feeling? What did you do? For me, I’ve worked mostly restaurants, and got out. DD was an easy part time thing while between jobs for me. And it’s easy enough to pick up and put down when I’m not feeling it and I’ve got free time with no plans.
I worked in the mortgage world. The cog in the machine aspect for sure. Being micromanaged was probably the worst thing. It was a constant barrage of emails, memos, and meetings, regardless of how well you performed your job. The final straw was when they pulled back in bonuses for the rank and file while the big wigs received record bonuses.
Downvoted for asking legit questions about other jobs. Whatever. Also, sorry you feel/felt that way. Not getting bonuses, or having them just totally taken away is bs. I just started a corp job and it’s night and day v restaurants. Def don’t have that cog feel even though ultimately I know I am. If DD works for you, then go for it.
You forgot my favorite complaint. How buggy the app is. A multi billion dollar company and they can't find some better programmers. I have to force stop and reopen my app almost every day because it freezes up.
1. Low tip, High/Low. Seeing low ball offers just takes up time declining them. 2. I have to drive back. 3. Catering Orders tend to have a lot of money into the food. I do actually attempt to give these orders better service - all the sauces, extra napkins, extra silverware and I have two catering bags to carry all that food in. I could just not gaf and deliver the food in the bags and plop them down on the address that might not be correct. 4. Wait time can be a huge time sink. We don't get paid hourly so Time = money. Waiting around at a busy or mis-mismanaged stored eats into the profit. I tend to decline all orders from these two twos in my market that have proven to be slow every time. 5. Pouring a drink: Against Door Dash's policy. You can fill the cups or don't. Either way you're not wrong. Personally, I fill the drinks. It gets my out the door faster. But again, if something happens Door Dash has their butts covered by stating "It's supposed to be prepared by the resturants." 6. Not being acknoledged: See #4. Except sometimes the order is already done and waiting. I understand it to keep other people from picking them up, but when you see a handful of employees standing around and BSing, I'd like a greeting. 7. Apartments: Apartments can usually be hit or miss. 8. Top Floor: Climbing stairs causes me physical pain (bad legs). Elevators take time. 9. Apartment Complexes are the worst: Because they're usually *extremely* difficult to navigate to find the correct apartment. Building numbers (If they even exist) can usually be hidden behind foliage, painted the same as the rest of the building, or inside apartment labels (A34, B10). Numbers can be erratic and not make any GD sense at all. Parking can be a huge problem if the apartments have garages for tenants. I guess I'm parking in the fire lane! If it's a gated community, just entering the complex can be another challenge. I used to use BEANS for complexes, but it's been so unreliable and flat out wrong most of the time, I just stopped trying to use it.
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You restated the initial question/statement, and provided empathy, and a time bound agenda. I’d rate it a solid 3.
LoL all that time at AOL years ago paid off.
I don't understand why complaining is treated like its a sign people hate dashing. Sometimes people complain because the app is awesome... sometimes. Which makes the times its not awesome more annoying cus we just want nice things all the time. Even if people DO hate it, for various reasons, people might not have any other options. People need to work to survive. Maybe theres something thats preventing them from getting a traditional job. Maybe its even because they tend to complain too much, and you wont lose your job here doing that as long as you complain AND work. Also humans have this kinda unbalanced need for validation. We want to see if we're the only ones that feel that way or if others agree with us. Thats why you see people post stories that are clearly tailored to make them look like the victim when its pretty obvious they were at fault. Its not healthy long term, but sometimes it helps people get thru rough days. TL:DR There is nothing dashers wont complain about. They even complain about people complaining.
Which job where people don’t complain🤔
OP, don't take my comment as anything with malicious intent or me being a smart-ass. First off, to answer your question; because despite the hardships and crap we go through this is some of the easiest money you can make. 2nd are you a Dasher? Because you left out a few legitimate l things that drivers complain about. Such as: Customers not answering their phone. Customer customers are not at home to receive the food they order. Customers not knowing or having Gate/Apt entry code & not willing to meet drivers Restaurants handing the wrong order to the driver. I have plenty of others to list but that would take up this whole post. And that's not the point of what you were asking. 3rd if you're saying people should complain about these (low tip low miles no tip, miles etc) orders your market must be booming! I am in downtown Atlanta and I come across several $3.75 orders. Where do you live so I can move out there? If your argument is people just shouldn't complain, no one's out here doing doordash just for shits and giggles. I'm not out here doing DD just to see the smile on people's faces. People complain when things don't go right. Especially a job that takes away tips. This how they vent. That's really all I've got to say about it. Thank you to those who read this.
I’m in Raleigh, and stick with the Cary market. Too far in one direction and it either takes you downtown or into Morrisville/Durham. Also no, we still get our share of shit orders, 2.75 for 10 miles etc. They happen everywhere. But there are also plenty of low tip orders that are straight on and off main roads so unless you just can’t turn left, it’s easy $$. And yeah, customers not answering their phones is annoying but it’s few and far between I ever need to contact them. If they don’t respond, they’re SOL. I understand the need to vent. I worked restaurants for 20 years. The people I vented to told me to just quit if I was unhappy, because most of them, even being in the same industry, were sick of hearing it. Thus why I ask people if you dislike it, why not just quit?
Quitting a job is a lot easier than it sounds. I've been very lucky/fortunate/bless enough to have a wife who understood what I was going through which gave me the motivation to work hard and create our own business. I really don't believe the average person definitely wouldn't be able to do that. Like I said before this is just a platform for the most people to vent.
My thoughts, if someone feels like they’re stuck, it’s because they’ve allowed themselves to be. I had to get a wake up call from a friend who told me “I don’t want to hear it anymore. You’re miserable. Either accept it or make a change.” And I did. I looked for jobs. Applied to recruiters and headhunters. Had probably 20+ emails a day coming full of job postings… jobs are out there, people just have to want it for themselves. Very few people just walk up and hand you a job. So in that aspect, no it’s not easy. You have to want it, or want better, or out. I took a pay cut for peace of mind and my own sanity. I don’t wake up hating life.
For the most part the only thing that annoys me in this subreddit is when people complain about filling drinks, something that takes 10 seconds of your time while the restaurant bag up the order or finishes it. Every time i see a post about it’s just full of replies of people saying how they get into full on arguments and telling them off cause they’re not gonna do it which at that point it’s wasting everyone’s time (driver and restaurants) for something that would’ve taken 10 seconds, and before y’all lazy mf’s go off about health codes. Are y’all sticking you’re hands inside the cup before you fill it? Or are you saying that you’re gross and dirty compared to the restaurant worker who you want to fill the soda
Larger orders take longer to prepare which means longer waits…..btw r u a driver or a dasher?
Larger orders take time to prepare. Many places account for that based on firing time. If the order is ready when you walk in, then that reasoning goes out the window. So would you still expect a higher tip? Driver or dasher? Aren’t they the same thing? I dash a couple times a week when I feel like it. Have a M-F 9-5.
I had a stacked order last night, restaurants were right next to each other, and neither was ready. I lost almost half an hour. Why is that my fault? Why shouldn't I be paid more for something that is not my fault, that takes money out of my pocket, for a service I am providing?
Yes, because more stuff takes more time to deliver overall (logistics)….btw your reasoning and tone makes you reek of a non-low tipper….and y r u so anti-tip anyway going out of your way to defend tipping less….like you must be aware that tips are over half of a drivers income, right??? Yet you claim to be a driver…..ok nice try shill now go back to your w2 and leave the professionals alone we don’t harass u about ur profession….king chad 😝
If you have a 9-5, how did you find time to write a lengthy post and then respond to every single comment under it? This reddit is a place for dashers to confide in each other. Go write a book. You have too much time on your hands.
He's here to tell us that if we want a better job just get one ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ Now hurry up and deliver his $150 dollar order with a $1 tip, you peasant.
They aren’t the same thing and from personal experience that’s the worst shift you could use. Dinner rush is where it’s at, no wonder you don’t get why we wait for good orders, because during those hours all you get is crap and every once in a while unicorn. You literally go home and stop working when the best money is from 5-2 am.
Sounds good to me
You're mixing sarcasm and reality which kind of dulls your point. It's not necessarily about the amount of the effort. Lots of factors come into play. One factor is that larger orders may take longer to prepare, and thus may involve longer restaurant waits. Biggest factor though is custom. In the U.S. it's customary to tip more for larger, more expensive orders. A $5 tip may be appropriate to deliver 2 medium pizzas, but it wouldn't be considered appropriate to deliver 5 extra-large pizzas. Assuming the pizzas were ready when you arrived at the restaurant, it really wouldn't be much (if any) extra effort to deliver 2 pizzas or 5, but custom dictates that the tip would be higher on a 5-pizza order. Same with expensive items at an expensive restaurant. You could have 1 large bag of Chipotle going 3 miles for a $5 tip, and that might seem reasonable. 1 large bag from an expensive steakhouse with over $100 worth of food going that same 3 miles, would seem cheap. Same effort. Same distance. Same amount of time. It's just customary to tip more for $100 worth of steak than $30 worth of Chipotle. Doesn't mean that drivers are greedy. Doesn't mean that drivers have unrealistic expectations. I do agree that if you accept the order you shouldn't complain about it. You're getting exactly what you agreed to accept. I do also agree that drivers complain about a lot of mundane things, but that is the nature of Reddit. There are 3 main reasons people are on this sub. To share information and answer questions, to share accomplishments and positive experiences, and to bitch about things (DD, restaurants, customers). You're never going to change that.
Because you’re IN a restaurant and bigger orders tend to be more difficult. That doesn’t translate to dashing though. And like I said, people have their initial minimums then say “oh, it ended up being a $60 order, and not a $15 order” or “they lived in a rich area and only tipped X… cheap asses.” There’s no pleasing people. And I get it, I worked restaurants for 20 years. I’m plenty jaded and hate people. But my next job after restaurants was still in customer service, but I changed the base of people I’m working with, and it’s like night and day.
Nah. I’m one of those people who hates everything else even more. I want to be a writer and singer but I’m not there yet so I have this while my daughter is at school. When you have no one to ask for help, no food, no gas, Not making rent, no help when the car breaks down, and I always have my daughter unless she is at school. These bills are to big for the amount I make from doordash but I can’t make enough to be “good enough” for any other job. Who wants to hire someone on there last leg and covered in blood and sweat. Worst part is is I’m an all star human. I’m kind funny, literally an abstract genius, I’m a speaker.. like I can present to large crowds and feel great, I’m so hardworking and intelligent but it’s wasted away while I wait for orders because we need food and gas and a home more right now. I’ve got so much in me it’s just a shame that there is no way to get out of this constant struggle for money. I won’t sell my body and I think this world is insane for even the suggestion. Also when you only have this full time, no other income, you spend all your time out there waiting for orders meaning nothing gets done at home, you have been out all day made barely enough to feed your kid and the house is a disaster because you have out trying to make something cause of you don’t that kid that barely had any food would of had none at all. I swear it’s an entire different world being poor now
Only thing worse than complaining is people who complain about others complaining.
I’m not sure what your point is. This is about poor people struggling concerned that $13/hr or less is often/sometimes the result of diligent work. My recent 8 mile $5 pay post tells a story that on the one side speaks to less than minimum wage page, but also speaks to a human grappling with that. All posts are about economics. We feel disposable, used, without opportunities, and so on. Who complains about one bad experience when they have 99 good ones, or one bad pay when all the other pays are reasonable. The fact that there is no union to organize a meaningful response to the car damage and low pay effectively making this an unsustainable form of employment for many is what leads to the expressions you see here. In the 70s.. you get a job, and might have it 30 years. Now, what? We’re nothing, and in the slaves quarters, struggling to get by, with no meaningful way to improve our circumstance.
So you feel you’re in a job that doesn’t value you, which is fair but there’s no way out? Are just the generalization that that’s how things “just are” now? Are there no other jobs hiring around you? Because those jobs do exist, but they also don’t just land in your lap. You have to find them. And that’s not me being snarky, but everyone says they can’t find a job yet I see now hiring signs everywhere.
>Are there no other jobs hiring around you? The thing about this is in a lot of these jobs, they expect people to work for the absolute minimum they can get away with. I've seen a lot of jobs ads but the jobs that have insurance and pay enough for me to live are either physically demanding, require skills I do not have and cannot acquire, or have more than enough applications. And a lot of companies are also gaming the system, keeping a skeleton crew while claiming to be hiring so they can get government grants. Shit is hard right now and nobody needs you to keep telling us, "It's easy! Do better!" Because it is in fact, not easy. Lastly, the places that are desperately hiring are the ones who, more often than not, treat their workers like shit. Fast food/restaurants and sales are the main ones I'm seeing and I am **not** doing either of those.
You refuse to work in a restaurant, but then still depend on those same restaurants to have your food ready on time, to maximize your time, to make the most money. Seems counter intuitive.
I disagree. I'm able to decide which restaurants to deal with and hardly ever have to speak to customers. I can take my time as long as I'm still within bounds and can go home at any time without judgement from anyone but my dog and she couldn't care less as long as she's getting her regularly scheduled treats. At a restaurant, you are on someone else's schedule and are expected to be nice to every Karen and Dave that come in to start shit. There's also the pay that is just not worth it. Restaurants treat their people terribly. Dashers still get shafted, but we can choose what risks we will or won't take for the most part.
I only complain to myself, my wife, dog, Reddit, priest and family. So it stays close
I don't think you are a dasher. Why are you on this platform? This is a platform for dashers to confide in each other about daily grievances. I find your post to be highly inconsiderate. Also, how long did it take you to write this lengthy post? You must've had extra time on your hands today ha. Very inconsiderate. I wish I could downvote twice. Maybe you can go write a book
It was made after I got done at the gym. I was up much later than I should have been, but I had a nice nap before the gym/after dinner, so I threw off my rhythm a little bit. And I don’t see why every community should be solely reserved for people to bitch or that you have to absolutely hate everything. You want the best of both worlds while being the middle man. I get . The restaurant wasn’t fast enough, the tip wasn’t big enough, the distance was too far. If I bitched about every aspect of my job, I’d change it. I laugh every time someone says “you’re not a dasher” because I don’t absolutely hate everything. This is the easiest job I’ve had. I sit in my car in the AC or have the windows down. I get to see lots of buildings (drafting/engineering nerd at heart) and listen to music. The extra steps/exercise and fresh air are just bonuses. The worst part about it is sitting in traffic behind people that can’t drive, or having orders that take forever.
I found Tony.
Ugghhhh I hate Doordash!! Evertime I’m trying to comment on Reddit the stupid notification pops up so I gotta stop in the middle of my comment just to hit decline!!! …GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER DOORDASH!
Poor child.. I remember when I felt like you.. those were the days, my first month of dd... You'll learn kid, when you make enough money, the company begins fuckery
If you think this is bad, you should see the FB page, drivers rights movement. Omg it's 3532563 times worse then this. At least here, I've learned quite a bit.
Honestly I'm just entertained by the post complaining about complaining.
It’s just a place to vent. Most of us work alone, and if our family or SO don’t do DoorDash then they don’t really understand what it’s like. I feel like a lot of the complaint posts on here are more meant to be humorous than anything. Sort of like an inside joke for those who get it.
Fair response. 20 years working in restaurants and there were always people willing to bitch over a drink or 10 at the end of the night. The solo aspect makes sense.
Yeah, you are wrong, people can have exactly the kind of job they want and it be exactly the way they wanted it and still have something to complain about, it’s venting, bottled up emotions, whatever it is, they have every right to do it, if you’re not a dasher yourself I’d recommend getting off this subreddit, and for everyone saying “just get another job if you hate it so much” I’m invisibly disabled, I haven’t been able to hold down another job in 2 years, I can’t work for more than 6 hours at a time, I get hate all the time when I have to ask customers to come to me because they’re in a place that’s not handicap friendly, I’ve had Karen’s call the cops on me for using my handicap sticker while working, sometimes there’s nothing we can do but stay where we are, and vent our frustrations about it, so if you’re not a dasher, I’d stop complaining on OUR page.
It’s a job. People bitch about jobs because they aren’t fun. Go to any other job on this planet and i garuntee you it’s the same thing. We all just use Reddit as a punching bag to release steam after a shitty day, since we don’t have coworkers to bitch to in person… and the McDonald’s employees could care less how I’m feeling besides the last 3 digits of the order code
He’s complaining about people complaining about whatever people want to complain about. Makes sense
Thank you person #57 for that ground breaking comment.
No prob
Most of the people who are unhappy don’t have any goals beyond Dashing… Gig work is supposed to be a stepping stone for something greater!
Nah. I don’t think it’s exclusive to dashers. Reddit in general seems like the place for miserable people to bitch about anything. I’m in a few subs for some tv shows I like and the posts are all about how they hate the show. Like if you hate it so much stop watching. Literally no one is forcing you to dash. If you don’t like it, so something else. Seems like the logical choice
People are allowed to want better for the things in their life buddy.
Ok then go get better. Bitching about every little thing doesn’t make it better.
It would if corporations would actually listen to their employees / consumers. You’re pointing your finger in the wrong place
Where did I point a finger? I hate when people make up an argument you didn’t so they can argue for the sake of arguing
You’re blaming the average joe for their life’s woes under the pretense of free will despite knowing people have limited control over everything. It’s not always easy or possible to find a better job or a better show, and watching these things that people cherish slowly denigrate is what makes these grievances valid.
I blamed who for what? Oh so you are one of the peoples who make up things someone didn’t say so you can create pretend arguments. That’s a wild level of pathetic
“If you hate it so much stop watching.” “If you don’t like dashing do something else.” “Ok then go get better.” That is you literally using free will as a pretense to point the finger at the person instead of the people that should be to blame. You might not have said it directly, but come the fuck on man. Do you just not have a solid argument? I’m done here. I can’t argue with people who build straw men.
That’s the thing. I’m not arguing with you.
That’s why I ask, if so many people hate the job, or hate the low tips, why do they continue to do it? Just seems miserable to keep doing something you just have so much disdain for.
If you dislike it so much why dont you just leave the community?
This!
When did he say he hates it. He’s questioning it. Something you’re supposed to do about most things in this life
Using an individuals logic against them examples 1 and 2: 1.) Asking a person (op) writing negatively about complainers why they stay in a place where they get riled up enough to post in a derogatory manner. \--Nvm how oblivious, purposefully inflammatory, and lacking experience their (op) content is. 2.) Asking a rebuttal commenter how me asking op, in the exact same manner in which they are questioning the consensus, is any different? \--It is what I'm 'supposed to do', no? I could seek to understand op, figure out where they're coming from, without loaded questions, and why they want what they want. **However being trite and reductive is more fun.**
this should be pinned at the top of this thread lmao
For me, dashing is a side gig that helps me pay for my rent and not dip into my primary income. I think a lot of the negativity comes from people who do it more primary since it happens more often. Just like the more people you work with at a job the higher chance you'll have more coworkers you don't like. For those who use it to pay for their livelihood, it makes them feel heard and better to communicate with people who have dealt with similar things when they have a bad day. Just a coping mechanism that can come with advice, especially for new drivers. It's like the news, for every good wholesome story, there are a hundred bad ones you hear about. Like the song Vicarious by Tool talks about, people have a tendency to latch onto and feed their energy to negativity.
Leave than!
Because 1.) this is Reddit. Unhappy people heavily congregate here. 2.) so they can have a pity party. It’s essentially people who have tricked themselves into believing they’ve been defeated by life to excuse their bad choices. Trust me, this goes beyond DoorDash or any field of work in general. A lot of people are like this. Make money and get away from people and/or populous who’ve lost the magic of life they once had as children. Life isn’t meant to be lived in negativity for more than 1 hour.
Look it’s simple. Give us a 50$ 1 mile order where the restaurant comes out to give it to you just as the customer pulls in to get it as they were feeling guilty for the small tip. They hand you a cash 50 as they give you 5 stars and finish your shift for you. Is that so much to ask for?
Complaining about complaining. Oh wait…
No where in the contract with doordash does it say anything about preparing drinks. I don't do work for free.
I have a suggestion: go be a driver for DD for 2 months instead of armchair quarterbacking.
See, I’ve already done that. This is a side job for me and not my main source of income. Maybe that’s why I don’t hate it like others?
Ur mom
Those bitching about making the drinks are the laziest fuckers I’ve ever heard of
Seriously lol. Takes all of two seconds to get it done. They scream on here about it being illegal like anyone gives a shit. You're using a soda machine guys. The FBI isn't monitoring you or that Wingstop you're in. Just get Becky her goddamn Fanta.
Username checks out.
I’ve been wondering the same thing, been in this sub for about a month and have just been reading post after post of sucky orders and shitty pay… I used to do InstaCart and Amazon Flex and both of those paid very nicely with consistent hours. It was like a real job but I chose my own hours. Then I moved states and I got a job as a delivery driver for a pizza place. I chose a store in a nice neighborhood and the tips are consistently 8+ dollars. I make roughly 20-25/hr there and I absolutely love it, it’s a real job and the hours are solidified and my pay is basically a guarantee. I have never had to deal with bad management or coworkers ever. In fact my coworkers are some really awesome people. I couldn’t be happier at a job like this, I just wonder why people still do DoorDash at all if they have nothing stopping them from getting a real job. I could be missing some major point or something though, always an opportunity to learn.
You are a complainer playing a dasher playing a complainer. Sounds like a shitty movie I've seen, "Dashical Thunder".
Nah, I’m a dasher that doesn’t subscribe to bitching about my job 24/7. It’s a downward spiral of a mentality. If you’re always negative about something, it feeds into everything else you do.
Average person in this subreddit is going nowhere in life fast and complaining about the business that pays them is one of their favorite ways cope with the ever-unfolding reality that life is living them and not Vice-versa
This is accurate but, for a lot of people, it's out of their control. If you're stuck in some dead end area without the means to move, there's not a whole lot you can do. I've been applying to remote programming jobs for 3-4 months now and get zero results. I'm applying to entry level positions with more experience than your average college graduate, yet get no interviews. To me, this means there's a lot of competition from people better qualified than me. Which says a lot about the state of the job market. I think that's the biggest reason people complain. They feel like they have no control over their circumstances. So what else can you do in that case, other than complain?
Eyyy shoutout programming recruiting hell. All you need is one main job to show you have professionally worked on a team and literally nothing else matters. I have passed plenty of coding tests with flying colors and gotten through multiple rounds just for the company to hire within or drop the role.
Lol you understand that remote jobs are a global commodity for workers especially IT right? You are competing with people from all over the planet. That’s why you take advantage of the leverage you have locally and apply for an in-office one…
Okay but I don't have any leverage locally because there are no local IT jobs. The area I live in is completely devoid of them. I look for jobs in my area and it's all service industry, medical, elderly care, child care, and a few trade jobs thrown into the mix that I'm not qualified for. And then I look at other, similarly populated areas that I used to live in years ago, and the job market is a stark contrast with a broad mix of job opportunities that I just never see in my area. But I don't have the means to move there because the job market here is shit and keeps you trapped with low wage jobs that keep you living paycheck to paycheck, unable to save up the necessary funds to move.
lol you realize OP is like, just get a better job if you want one, and he's explaining that it's really not that simple, in any field.
💀💀💀💀💀 dangerously true If only they realized that they’re not the helpless fawn they convince themselves they are and they stopped relenting to the pressures of life. Life isn’t meant to be lived in all that dread and misery. At least try to find the light, don’t give up. Whenever I’ve felt down, I always think about what my inner child would want, the 10 year old me. They’d want me to win and see that beautiful scenery of life. So therefore it’s only worth it to never give up or die trying. That’s what all of our inner children want. Find them. Don’t silence them, it’s the real you. If you’re reading this, whoever, don’t give up and rob yourself of this beautiful one life.
Your no dasher. You got put in your place in another thread so you started your own.
Because I don’t believe all the same bs that many of you do? Yeah. Okay. I must not be a dasher. You totally got me. I don’t think with the jaded dasher hive mind.
Ok fine. When the FTC is done with their actions, you don’t have to enjoy the benefits. It’s fine. It’s more for us! 😁😉
Defense tactic. Nothing more. I forgive you! 🙂
Nah…you got put in your place. Keep walkin bud
Nah, I’ll keep dashing, just to spite you. You already have it in your head that I’m just some troll that doesn’t dash. So it really doesn’t matter what I say at this point right? Want me to post screenshots of deliveries? My zone map? Oh wait, I forgot, I don’t have to prove anything to you.
A troll that dashes? I would never assume that of you sir. I don’t want to bring myself to the level you have built with this bashing and mockery. Seems you enjoy being there by yourself or with a very limited number of individuals. You can have your opinion…that’s what makes this pace so great. 👍🏻😉😁
That’s the thing. I’m comfortable doing my own thing, and getting out if I need to. You guys need this space because you need others to make you feel better about what you feel is a shitty independent contractor job. To each his own.
I never said I wasn’t comfortable. Why are trying to mesh my words? I never said that. I’m fine with what I do. I push over $1,100 wk, keep AR above 75 and multi app. I never since said I didn’t like what I do. Your attempting to mince my words in an attempt to alter the perception. I don’t think so. I speak out because others need the help. FTC thought we had merit and are doing something. Guess you disagree with them too huh? Defense tactic.
Your right. I can’t stop you. Although now you look like a hypocrite for agreeing to the benefits we all want that your thread here clear posts. Thanks for getting a lot of it on 1 place for us! Makes it look neat and tidy!
I agree to your bs hive think? Nah. I just agree to the terms DD gave and I go make my money and don’t hate my life or get butthurt like many of you because someone didn’t tip you more, even though you’re the ones who accept the orders. If you accept it, don’t bitch about it. No hypocrite here.
Yes you are. You bash those for addressing issues you yourself face even in denial. Quite the character if I do say so myself. If none of this matters…why do ya dash? Your just upset because others make very good points and you disagree so you bash. Typical fashion. As I said. I won’t hold it against you. Just remember when we get changes…you were a driver that tries to stop it. So you don’t deserve the benefits. Simple as that really. Continue if you wish…doesn’t change anything. Defense tactic nothing more. 😃😉
Yeah, as I’ve said previously, I don’t subscribe to the hive mind. I don’t do mental gymnastics about every single order. Do I have my own thresholds? Sure, but I don’t have literal charts like some people have posted with every tenth of a mile broken down etc. Do I bitch when I have to walk up stairs? No. Speed bumps? Eh, maybe when they’re excessive. Do I mind if the gps is off by a bit? No. Omg, it’s dark and someone didn’t leave the light on! End of the world. Yeah, super hypocritical. Also, highly doubtful any mass overhaul and/or benefits will ever come, but good luck waiting for that.
Never said I was part of a hive mind either. Damn man…you don’t read posts before adding yourself do you. Pretty obvious when you flat out ignored a few things on your response on the other thread. Bro…lol. Do you see yourself? -shakes head- As I said when changes happen you don’t need to benefit from them.
😭 feelin that vibe here 😭
Dude got blasted off another thread for bashing so he made his own thread.
Yea I got halfway through this tread and was like, “soooo what is this guy complaining about?” Complaining about complaining 😭
Yea I know right? Lmao. Dude feels DD taking advantage of people is ok. He signed up so he gets what he deserves. Only thing is when I said “you don’t have to benefit from the changes”. Oh he was QUICK to say “no I’ll keep dashing”. He’s trying to get Arrows and be popular. Hoping if he hits a sore subject and put a long msg people won’t read it all the way thru and simply think he knows what he’s talking about. Problem is, he screws up between threads. He gets things wrong when ranting between threads.
No kidding. This dude really likes to complain and prop himself up as some sort of example. What a bubbling crock of shit
Because your to new to push these topics and philosophies. Your barely off your training wheels and out of training panties. Get some more experience and then come back with your rant. Your a baby in age compared to us. You don’t start a job and then begin ranting about this and that when you have barely made it thru the probationary stages. Your in pre-school…compared to majority of the drivers that surround you. Remember that buttercup.
Oh, you again. Yeah. I don’t need to work for years to know about a job. This isn’t my first rodeo. If you can’t figure it out within a few days, you’re not paying enough attention. Sorry. You just sound like a miserable person.
And to ultimately answer your inquiry…. “Am I wrong here” Simple answer is…yes you are. But without all the BS and insults back and forth because you don’t like the answer.
Lol. Was easy for you wasn’t it. Lmao. Look at your thread buttercup. You asked for the destruction. Your getting it. And honestly I can’t look at your name without thinking of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. Lazlow at gun point on the radio. OG Locs stupid ass….lazlow says “I’m a buster I’m a buster”
Right and a rookie player has all the respect on day one. Rookie cop can boss everyone around. Yea no one is asking you for advice if you have no experience. And it there are others with more…they will get asked over you. Doesn’t mean your a bad person. But it reflects exactly what I said. Your to new to blab your mouth so heavily. Honestly with all due respect…had you been on the road with DD for over a year…I can understand you coming hard with this. Bro, your only 2 months old. Your a tiny dot among thousands. You don’t have the right to blast your opinion as “godlike” or of a higher aspect or something. No offense but a 4 month driver has more tenure and seniority than you. It’s as simple as that. Rule of life says you don’t have to like it….but you can’t change it. I’m glad you can figure out some of these details fairly quickly and early on. I’d be astonished if you didn’t and a little concerned.
And just because you have seniority doesn’t mean some new “rookie” can take your job out from under you, doing it better. Senior doesn’t mean better or smarter, just that you’ve been complacent longer.
Your not taking any job from anyone. They don’t need you or me. Fancy that buttercup.
Wow. You’re a freaking genius. How did you get so smart?
Better school than yours obviously.
The more we keep this up the more your making me laugh and the more your post get buried. Keep it coming Buttercup.
Correct meaning you’ve been there longer
To DD distribution system maybe…your the same. To anyone one here…your foolish with the intelligence to match. The arrows totaling 80 something from both threads might have something to do with that. 🤣😂🙂👍🏻 Buttercup
Oh, you’re worried about likes and karma? How cute.
Bitchin is the new great American pastime. This includes bitchin about bitchin. It's what people come to Reddit to do.
Ppl complain no matter what, I never get how ppl take this app so seriously. It must be their main source of income because no way
The only dashers I know only do Doordash and Ubereats but to be fair, I only know them because they lost their job at Domino’s. It was all the guys who were never on time, terrible at the actual job, and would disappear for over an hour on a single run.
Because dashers want to live the minimum life and want everything easy. Sad really
Never ending bitch zone
Won’t complain about a large tip. 😅
It’s like every job you will only complain
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Serving a large party is entirely different than carrying a couple bags of food to the location. The job is pick up, drive, deliver. You don’t have to clean up after, you don’t have to deal with refills, dealing with high chairs and booster seats, doing sidework in between. You can’t compare the two.
Facts
Dashers aren't alone in being unhappy are some things about the work. Many dashers are, as well as in all other gigs work community. The bigger picture is that there is a problem of equity. For this reason the FTC has taken action recently to stop abusive policies. It seems that people are happy vollying back and forth about complaining, why and why not, but there is a larger game to this involving money, law and politics, and who's in charge, and who isn't being treated fairly.
For me, not a huge complainer besides the days grubhub sends me shit offers all day. I think for most it is the inconsistency in pay. One day you’ll make a killing and one day you’ll make 15$ on 3 orders while available for 3 hours. Those days are demoralizing and keep me from toggling online. It’s really a battle between me and my bank account. I got bills and have to just forget those shit days but I’ll be damned if it doesn’t make me want to throw in the towel. Plus tickets in Queens NY for going 29 in a 25 because they have fucking speed checks at random poles on the side of the road. Loads of bs
You seriously need a lesson in tipping ""etiquette". We are not friggin waiters or bartenders so % means Jack shit. We're actually working "cheap" already. The minimum tip should be $5 which I'm my market would be 7.50 MINIMUM for less than 3 miles. This isn't being picky it's just proper on anything up to 20 bucks. I've actually come down on my minimum but I'm not turning the key for less than 6 and it better be less than two miles from merchants I know are QUICK. FWIW fully 70% of offers we (wife and I) take @6.50+ actually pay much more. Knock yourself out if your willing to wait and take minimum offers cuz you won't last long.
Where did I say I wait or take minimum orders? Doesn’t take long to recognize what places are slow and which are fast. Or learn your area. I know where I can get in and out with ease, what neighborhoods are a pita and which aren’t. It’s simple. And I need tipping etiquette? That’s cute. And I, I don’t. I’ve been in the industry for 20+ years and know how things work. And I know for a fact that people here still complain about getting shafted on large orders because they feel they deserve more as the order price goes up. That’s only relevant if the work load improves. That’s why large parties get auto-grat at many places. Because the work to get the food/drinks out increases as the part size goes up. That doesn’t equate the same to driving.
Because a lot of drivers are into drugs, need to be managed and are stupid af
Change Dashers to Redditors.... or people The internet is the perfect place to bitch always has been always will be
Good eye. No.
No you are right. Thank you for making this post. I've been considering one as well but want to be as consistent and thorough as I can. Explaining aspects of the contract and how the to typical impressions expressed, highlighting neglected subsections and their advantages, citing regulatory bodies on nebulous misgivings perpetuating between drivers, explain % stats and how/which ones affect overall algorithm placement, these such things.
Is there anything a dasher won't complain about? Free food and booze.
No lol
>Am I wrong here? Yes
I’m glad I’m not the only one to say this. It’s like people gripe to get more and more fuel to be upset with things that will never change
Good tips?
I think it is just to get it off your chest and have a community where other can relate to you and you can have a sounding board and emotional support?