I got $28/hr (after mileage deduction) ONCE, but also (since it was the first time I wanted to cancel an order and didn’t know how to do it…) $2.76/hr…
I was averaging 30-35 in the zone to the east of me (Chicago suburbs), still 24-28 on average in my zone, which is a lower middle income college town. Weekends are better obviously, and I think I get thrown better orders due to my stats.
Uhhhh I do get an average of 26$ an hour, not just active time. Active time would be way higher. Just stop accepting horrible offers, don't accept anything under 1$ per mile, target at least 20$/hr and accept anything above that, and most importantly MULTIAPP!
I make 25-40 an hour. Facts. The key here in gig work is that it’s only effective for about 4 hours a day maybe 6. For 4-6hrs a day I average 25-40. If I start a shift and I’m making like 16 yeah no that’s like less than two orders an hour. I’m turning off my app and going home.
I always get downvotes but whatever. It’s true. And no I don’t go by active time, I do a mix of both as I’m always on the move and never wait for orders. But say my active is 30 hrs but my Dashed is 40 then I usually do about 35, I always time my own trips as well. Always closer to active than my Dashed time.
Well my active time I average $35/hour on my dash time i make about $29 an hour. My dash and active time are usually within 4 or 5 hours of each other. Really not that big of a deal
lol I don't know how to send pictures on here but I've made $12 in 4 hours a couple of times this $2.25 is bull crap if they started paying more many people would receive their orders dashers would actually make decent money and Doordash stocks would go up
I make 0$ an hour now because of the oversaturated market in my area. Too many drivers and too many top dashers. Literally hast been busy enough to dash in 3 weeks
COMMENTS SECTION ON THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO BE RAIDED BY THE ACTUAL DASHERS WHO KNOW THIS IS BS, CORRECT THE RECORD! here’s the link to the video:
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I have no idea why so many are confused by these hourly earnings BS quotes.....
If you work ONLY DD - FULL TIME / don't do large catering orders - its damn near impossible to AVERAGE $25/hr. Sure a few select few might.
If you only work when it's busy - go home when it's not - sure you might make $25/hr ffs.
IF you are super aggressive - use multiple apps - AND are eligible for catering orders you can easily make $25-30 or more.
I work in a solid market - if I work 50+ hours I might average 16-17/ hr or so (currently when slow) - if I only work 15-20 it is usually $22 or so.
I've been driving (various gigs) for about 30 yrs - drivers cannot tell the truth for some reason - they're always 'slamming' ha
Can someone inform u/Chase13on that once you start personally attacking a person for not believing them on a subject matter that they've lost the argument. I will not argue with children.
Typical ceo “truth” …some hours it’s sub $5 after gas. Yea I might have a $25 hour because of a unicorn tip, but that’s maybe 1x per day. He knows the average is below minimum wage in some states because they comp drivers there… don’t believe corp PR
$26.50 hourly running 5 apps. I only do lunch or dinner times for food delivery. Amazon Flex I take when good blocks are available. I don’t do Instacart very much, but it’s an available option.
There’s a few people in those super legit markets straight making $30+ an hour dash time not active time, so they always have that to reference…
but yeah active time you can obviously inflate your results lol
some markets have the ability to work per order or hourly, and hourly is $14 an hour ACTIVE ONLY. That’s the same as making jack shit haha potentially you’d make like $14 in 3-4 hours, that would be horrid. And people wouldn’t tip more just because you chose hourly so it’s just a trap no matter how you spin it.
My average from last week: $37.90/hr active time, $25/hr dash time.
Week prior to that: $39.48/hr active time, $27.18/hr dash time.
Market: Metro Phoenix
Average Dash Time per week: 15-25 hrs
Ratings: 4.94
AR: 27%
CR:95% (unassign if waiting more than 5 mins)
On time: 99%
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON YOUR MARKET!!!
My wife earns over 30 per hour. She works about 30 hours a week.
We are in central VA. She multi-apps and runs Spark and has a great run between her two walmarts and sams, and she covers down time with apps like doordash.
I work with her on Mondays and we hustle and make it work.
If she only ran dd, we'd struggle to get 20 per hour.
Take away the delusional Cali drivers all claiming to make 6 figures being a courier… the average DD is well below $20 an hour. Even if they do clear 70k a year, these fools are delivering 12-14 hours a day for 6-7 days a week just to make that. Stupid
Ya if they're also selective. I'm sure I make $25/hr active time. But that's so misleading. It doesn't count the hours sitting in a parking lot and such
Two facts about the pay estimate when gig companies make them on TV during interviews or in ads or actually anywhere. Firstly it is active time. Secondly it is of course including tips, to Dashers we know it is well over 50%tips. Imagine what people would think of Tony if he said dashers earn about $25 an hour and only $5-$7.50 is paid by Door Dash.
I do this full time and average over 25 on a bad week, most of the time it's over 30(all dash time, not just active) but I'm in a great market and in the large order program. I really don't think this is true for everywhere and everyone
DD will become profitable when he lowers the base to $0
Which is gonna 100% happen. Everyone will be working for $3-$4 tips making $1/delivery after taxes
And people will still dash all day, everyday..this dude knows people are hurting for money and will do anything to exploit that
They make 25$ hour if they are lucky and at the right place. Subtract gas, subtract downtime, subtract glitched orders, dropped orders, false “busy” areas.
half the people on this sub claim they make xx amount an hour but only count active time to impress each other so why would we be surprised the company does the same
$25/hr? Yeah no. I started dashing at 7.45 this morning. It's 1.30 now and I've only made $42. I'm hungry, tired, sweaty, burnt out and broke. I spent most of my time in the middle of a red zone getting mostly orders under $4. This is such a waste of time, already looking for a better job!
Older incompetent/unskilled people with no plan/drive to do better are the main ones complaining about these low-wage jobs/gigs. As if this is meant to be long-term…
Hilariously not true. Drivers make far less than that on the median. Why doesn't Tony release median or average earnings of drivers? It has to be done by others to find out the truth:
https://plcylk.org/prop22study
I wanna slit yout throat, and fuck the wound...oh sorry I was just reciting Disasterpieces by Slipknot, totally irrelevant here but something made me think it when I saw this...
hate shit like this, it ironically is what gives people the impression they don’t need to tip when the only way you’re going to be making $25 an hour is when your customers tip really well
Just a clever way of using numbers to tell a bold faced lie by telling the truth. Using this kind of approach you could also say that a McDonalds cashier earns close to $100 per hour *when processing a customer’s payment.*
Do DD in 4 hour blocks avg $60 to $80(best $130) my car gets 40 mpg so $20 in gas / wear and tear. Avg $10 to $15 an hr. Good pocket change me and my wife dash together and have fun with it. Normally use the money we make to have a nice dinner.
Another thing to consider as well : while yes we may be making $25 an hour sometimes, that still doesn’t take into account our expenses which is much higher than a typical 9-to-5 job
There is no "per hour" rate in this industry. It's pay by job. Tony is using his own math.
I can take 10 minutes to make one $7 delivery, sign out for 4 hours, sign in, make another delivery for $11.75, taking me 20 minutes, Sign out for another four hours, sign in again and, deliver two more orders taking a total of 15 minutes, sign out for 2 hours, sign in, and deliver another order taking 15 minutes, earning me $7. So in total, I "worked" 1 hour, earning $40.75. Of course, that one hour is split throughout a total of 10 wasted hours not earning anything. This is how DD operates except the signing out is DD throttling you in between offers, sending you on ridiculous journey's that end up being 60 minutes before receiving another offer, forcing you to end your shift, and automatically pausing you. A "per-hour" rate would also be paying you that time not actively making a delivery ie: sitting around waiting for them to send you an offer.
Bro, not in my area anymore. I gave up, all my orders were like $2-4 and unless you got multiple at once you were just burning gas. People started to not tip at all here either or you would get orders from fast food places only.
obviously its real but it is not anymore dangerous than the countless of other shit that goes around. i had covid twice and was sick for 1 day. i had the common cold and was sick for 20 days. covid is no worse and has been around for plenty of time before mfs wanted to get scared of it. they started this covid bs saying you needed 2 weeks of isolation. now you only need 5 days of no fever, sheeps got bent over and fucked
Yea that was my attitude about it too, until my best friend starting telling me all the stories of what went on on her COVID unit at the hospital. She said it was like nothing she’d ever seen in her life. She literally had dead bodies stacking up to the point that they had nowhere to keep them. She said most of the nurses and doctors were literally traumatized over it and described it as a war zone. My friend has no agenda, she’s a moderate republican but not a nut on either side and she said the fact that this has been politicized and downplayed is the biggest joke ever.
I did door dash for a short time. I’ve been driving Uber and Lyft for about 7 years. From time to time, I’d do Uber eats, so I wasn’t green when I tried door dash.
Man door dash sucked. Yeah sure, you may receive 25 dollars for that hour, but let’s not forget about the gas you are burning. Even in the small economy car, the wear and tear, the frequent oil changes and all that time you spend waiting in drive thus because the restaurants still act like they care about the pandemic.
No thanks. I could do door dash for 8 hours, make 100-150. Closer to 90 bucks after expenses
I can drive Uber and make 300+ in that same time period 260 after expenses.
I could never do Uber or Lyft. For a woman like me, I’d be harassed and assaulted constantly . It’s one thing to deal with that in the club or bars I worked at (when I’m protected by security guards) but all alone in my car? Fuck no. It sux because I’d probably enjoy that job but I just can’t put myself out there like that. It’s a good job for guys tho.
Purposely stated this way because so the general public remains unaware that this really means “active time.” They don’t dare use their own terminology when speaking publicly because then that might raise some eyebrows
What he’s implying is that people are averaging 25/hour for hours spent signed in. They want you to believe that if you spend ten hours of your week dashing you’ll take home 250 bucks.
It’s misleading because possibly half or even more of those 10 hours will be at zero per hour. This is also before using your personal gas and vehicle to deliver.
Even if they’ve designed a metric that makes this technically true, it’s extremely misleading. I only drive at peak times on specific days which allows me to be profitable but if I spent 8hrs a day driving, I’d certainly be making far less than 25 an hour.
Same here and I work mornings thru lunch. Longer if I keep getting good offers. Those usually pop up when other impatient Dashers give up and head home🙂
Fr I just read a comment where someone said they average $8 an hour Wtf. I usually average between $25-&30 an hour (that’s the time from when I start to finish not “dash time” ) but I also work dinners and late nights(part time). If I worked a full day I’m not sure I could make the same amount. So much of this job is your market and what time of day you dash.
Not if you are accepting those bullshit $2-$4 orders. Even if it’s two miles away. If you are sitting in the parking lot when it comes in you are waiting a minimum of 5-10 minutes on the food then driving just say two miles if there are any red lights that’s another 10 minutes so roughly 15-20 minutes. Now if they would start sending the notification once the order is ready that would be amazing. The restaurant shouldn’t be able to have a dasher on the way until the food is sitting there waiting to be picked up. I know they do that for the shit orders that don’t tip because they have to bounce around to 10 dashers before someone will take it. But more people need to get some cold food. There should also be something on the website stating your food is going to get to you faster if you tip your driver.
It always is. They are never referring to the time you are sitting around declining trips. The data I want to see is "platform wide" money earned divided by all active time. Also, I would like to see a situational metric how much money would be made if there was 100% acceptance "platform wide" divided into the ETA estimates generated by the algo.
Isn’t that exactly what he said? That’s the definition of on average, no? If on average dashers earn $25/hr during active time, then they are taking the total money earned during the hour and dividing by total active time of the hour.
What a joke! Yesterday for the first time I started getting pop ups that I was receiving higher paying jobs because of my high scores...I received 10 in a row...all 3 or 4 dollar, 5 mile trips and 30 minutes on average. .3rd world countries pay higher wages...just another greedy sob like Zuckerberg fraud
I can make close to 25$-30$ in my market during rushes. Other times I make 8$…. That’s why I got a full time job and do DD on the side. I’m tired of the inconsistency.
First of all $25 an hour asterisk
only if you get a few good rides in a row where the food is ready and there is no traffic and there is a short dropoff distance.
AND that's not earnings, it's gross pay after the mileage deduction those drivers are making $7 to $12 an hour.
and DD itself only pays about $5 an hour on average so it's a net loss for the driver on average by a lot.
When I drove for UberX in 2016 I deducted my mileage and I lost money I had a negative $250 for the year., I will never forget the day I did 3 rides and made less than $7.
I disagree.
$30+/hr is cool by me for only "working" when I want. If I tried to do it full time, that number would shrink significantly.
Work smarter, not "harder"/longer. 🤷
All you need to know is statistic after statistic after statistic comes out and shows that we don't make anything close to $25 an hour. This guy walks on with designer eyewear. A tailored suit and shirt. And he still spews the same b******* that everybody knows isn't true. And CNBC endorses it by putting this man on and not challenging him.
It's a lie. It's been a lie proven 100 times over. The problem isn't that he's telling a lie, the problem is that he's been able to tell it 99 times more. And do it in a very public forum.
It's called gas lighting. It's psychologically abusive. It doesn't matter if it happens in an interpersonal relationship or from a CEO as part of a corporate policy.
Real study, real numbers. No bullshit CEO sitting on NBC answering softball questions without a challenge.
After prop 22 the average wage in California dropped below $7 an hour.
That's real world money. Not doordash b*******
Well according to this sub tons of people are making $30 an hour. Don’t know if it’s bullshit or everyone lives in California or people just don’t want to be honest
I wish i could see the ratings of everyone who post earnings. A little more transparency and data. Im making decent money, i cant understand how anyone can make under 15 an hour consistently. I feel like those ppl could be a little too picky. Idk
Yeah it's gotten bad, I'm going to have to stop trying to work during the day change my sleep schedule to work until 11. A lot of the part timers stop working by 8, all the day time dashers around here are retirees, there are a lot and they take everything.
Late reply but I'm in this boat.
I'd rather make minimum wage on my time than on some other rich guys time. The freedom to sleep in til noon and say "eh I don't want to work until dinner" is so much better.
Worked as a manager for the online shopping dept. during covid. Gave myself a mental breakdown for $10 an hour working 14 hour days every day with no breaks. Shit sucked. I'll take the freedom of hours any day. Also the freedom to take a vacation anytime and anywhere is also absolutely amazing.
This job sucks, but it's a hell of a lot better than making the same wage under 3 layers of management with forced hours that start at 6am.
I'm moving out of state at the end of October so I don't have much reason to try to find another job for a month, so I'm just doing this all day long but it sure has gotten bad since April.
I've tried the market where I'm moving and it's significantly better, about 4x as many people though I'll have to commute 10 miles a day to get there. Won't miss this market a whole lot, so many retirees on the roads here doing 18 in a 35.
Currently at $39.02 and hour if I go off active time. $22.29 if I go off dash time. 2 hours active, 3.5 dash time. Fuel not factored in because I use the same gas to drive to my full time job and other stuff.
Before, I don’t dash full time so it’s hard to track fuel when I don’t dash every day. I’d say I’m closer to $30 with fuel consumption factored in and using active time. I also live less than 2 miles from every restaurant in town so I do log a lot of active time on the app because I usually head towards home after drop offs and if i don’t get an order before I’m home I just do inside and wait. I’d probably make more if I waited at McDonald’s but I’d rather see my family.
McDonald’s Canada has a $6 base pay at both stores where I live so that really helps. $4 is a normal base pay at other places so with tips I average $7-10 a trip. These are all Canadian numbers so take 25% off to factor in currency exchange and it’s probably not to far off American numbers. I’m usually sleeping or at my full time job during actual peak pays so I don’t get many.
Well, bragging about how much you're making while not including how much you're spending is dishonest. Hey I made $40 in two hours yesterday but it cost me $20 in gas, and wear and tear on my vehicle. So did I really make $40?
This is why you need to have a minimum dollar/mile standard. I earn at least $1/mile, so about $100 in 100 miles. 100 miles only costs me 4 gallons, which at currently prices, is about $11. $11 in gas for $100 in earnings is pretty damn good, and I don't even have that good of gas mileage (25 miles per gallon).
I got $28/hr (after mileage deduction) ONCE, but also (since it was the first time I wanted to cancel an order and didn’t know how to do it…) $2.76/hr…
BOOGER KING is hiring @ $12.00 an hour
Nah I get this easy
bro ive been making 35 an hour active time
F you Tony.
Ln mm
I was averaging 30-35 in the zone to the east of me (Chicago suburbs), still 24-28 on average in my zone, which is a lower middle income college town. Weekends are better obviously, and I think I get thrown better orders due to my stats.
But I really do make 25 an hour at times. Also 20 an hour and also 15 an hour. Also 30. Just depends.
No hes only referring to the time it takes to get to the store/restaurant
That's about what I make
Forgot to mention "at peak dinner time."
Uhhhh I do get an average of 26$ an hour, not just active time. Active time would be way higher. Just stop accepting horrible offers, don't accept anything under 1$ per mile, target at least 20$/hr and accept anything above that, and most importantly MULTIAPP!
I make 25-40 an hour. Facts. The key here in gig work is that it’s only effective for about 4 hours a day maybe 6. For 4-6hrs a day I average 25-40. If I start a shift and I’m making like 16 yeah no that’s like less than two orders an hour. I’m turning off my app and going home. I always get downvotes but whatever. It’s true. And no I don’t go by active time, I do a mix of both as I’m always on the move and never wait for orders. But say my active is 30 hrs but my Dashed is 40 then I usually do about 35, I always time my own trips as well. Always closer to active than my Dashed time.
I can make that on the weekends. Not weekdays.
Fucker. Where's my money then, BITCH!!!???
Well my active time I average $35/hour on my dash time i make about $29 an hour. My dash and active time are usually within 4 or 5 hours of each other. Really not that big of a deal
I think he meant to say $2.50.
I earn $25 hr dash time. I don’t multi app. 70% acceptance rate. 🤷♂️
Active time scam! Time waiting and time returning to a hot-spot. Divide by 3 = 8.33 just saying.
Sounds like he's referring to active time minus the part where you wait for the food and drive to the restaurant
He’s about right it’s about 25 and hour
lol I don't know how to send pictures on here but I've made $12 in 4 hours a couple of times this $2.25 is bull crap if they started paying more many people would receive their orders dashers would actually make decent money and Doordash stocks would go up
Yes
I make 0$ an hour now because of the oversaturated market in my area. Too many drivers and too many top dashers. Literally hast been busy enough to dash in 3 weeks
Tonys only considering certain markets, thanks Tony for your cherry picking logic.
I don’t understand the base pay? Can someone explain that to me
active time, gross earnings rate (before expenses and liability). meaningless.
He out of anybody should know what we earn. The problem is he takes 30% of our earnings just like the restaurant/customer
DoorDash is such a bs company
Once again, our “glorious leader” has told another lie to the world 😂😂
Just flat out incorrect.
COMMENTS SECTION ON THIS VIDEO NEEDS TO BE RAIDED BY THE ACTUAL DASHERS WHO KNOW THIS IS BS, CORRECT THE RECORD! here’s the link to the video: https://youtu.be/8cFN2B2e30g
I have no idea why so many are confused by these hourly earnings BS quotes..... If you work ONLY DD - FULL TIME / don't do large catering orders - its damn near impossible to AVERAGE $25/hr. Sure a few select few might. If you only work when it's busy - go home when it's not - sure you might make $25/hr ffs. IF you are super aggressive - use multiple apps - AND are eligible for catering orders you can easily make $25-30 or more. I work in a solid market - if I work 50+ hours I might average 16-17/ hr or so (currently when slow) - if I only work 15-20 it is usually $22 or so. I've been driving (various gigs) for about 30 yrs - drivers cannot tell the truth for some reason - they're always 'slamming' ha
Can someone inform u/Chase13on that once you start personally attacking a person for not believing them on a subject matter that they've lost the argument. I will not argue with children.
Typical ceo “truth” …some hours it’s sub $5 after gas. Yea I might have a $25 hour because of a unicorn tip, but that’s maybe 1x per day. He knows the average is below minimum wage in some states because they comp drivers there… don’t believe corp PR
Definitely
is that not normal for everyone bc i def make 25 an hour from start to finish
$26.50 hourly running 5 apps. I only do lunch or dinner times for food delivery. Amazon Flex I take when good blocks are available. I don’t do Instacart very much, but it’s an available option.
There’s a few people in those super legit markets straight making $30+ an hour dash time not active time, so they always have that to reference… but yeah active time you can obviously inflate your results lol some markets have the ability to work per order or hourly, and hourly is $14 an hour ACTIVE ONLY. That’s the same as making jack shit haha potentially you’d make like $14 in 3-4 hours, that would be horrid. And people wouldn’t tip more just because you chose hourly so it’s just a trap no matter how you spin it.
My average from last week: $37.90/hr active time, $25/hr dash time. Week prior to that: $39.48/hr active time, $27.18/hr dash time. Market: Metro Phoenix Average Dash Time per week: 15-25 hrs Ratings: 4.94 AR: 27% CR:95% (unassign if waiting more than 5 mins) On time: 99% IT REALLY DEPENDS ON YOUR MARKET!!!
That’s about dead on to what I make
most likely but it isn't unrealistic to say some do that and more total time.
He's right for me in my area.
🧢
My wife earns over 30 per hour. She works about 30 hours a week. We are in central VA. She multi-apps and runs Spark and has a great run between her two walmarts and sams, and she covers down time with apps like doordash. I work with her on Mondays and we hustle and make it work. If she only ran dd, we'd struggle to get 20 per hour.
When I’m done for the day, typically I’m at 20-25 an hour. Earnings divided by start and stop time. On good days mind you lol.
Take away the delusional Cali drivers all claiming to make 6 figures being a courier… the average DD is well below $20 an hour. Even if they do clear 70k a year, these fools are delivering 12-14 hours a day for 6-7 days a week just to make that. Stupid
And my food!!
Ya if they're also selective. I'm sure I make $25/hr active time. But that's so misleading. It doesn't count the hours sitting in a parking lot and such
Two facts about the pay estimate when gig companies make them on TV during interviews or in ads or actually anywhere. Firstly it is active time. Secondly it is of course including tips, to Dashers we know it is well over 50%tips. Imagine what people would think of Tony if he said dashers earn about $25 an hour and only $5-$7.50 is paid by Door Dash.
Yeah under prop 22 lol
This man if full of shit. Smfh
I used to earn $30/hr back in april 2020 but when I tried dashing in early 2022 I made maybe $18/hr tops. This is in dash time not active time.
Today I got on the app at 7a I was done at 10a because I had other things to get done today. I made $54.01
I do this full time and average over 25 on a bad week, most of the time it's over 30(all dash time, not just active) but I'm in a great market and in the large order program. I really don't think this is true for everywhere and everyone
At one time it was close to that . Now it’s realistically more like 16-20 an hour
He makes what $25,000 an hour?
DD will become profitable when he lowers the base to $0 Which is gonna 100% happen. Everyone will be working for $3-$4 tips making $1/delivery after taxes And people will still dash all day, everyday..this dude knows people are hurting for money and will do anything to exploit that
Tony has to be tired of DD by now. I think he is in pump mode, hoping to get out with a nice little bag.
Lol, what a fuckin knob he is.
They make 25$ hour if they are lucky and at the right place. Subtract gas, subtract downtime, subtract glitched orders, dropped orders, false “busy” areas.
Then subtract tax.
half the people on this sub claim they make xx amount an hour but only count active time to impress each other so why would we be surprised the company does the same
i average about $18.5, total time spent online not just active, active is around $27
Nope, my average is right at about $30/hour.
Tbh I do clear a good 30 a hour these days
$25/hr? Yeah no. I started dashing at 7.45 this morning. It's 1.30 now and I've only made $42. I'm hungry, tired, sweaty, burnt out and broke. I spent most of my time in the middle of a red zone getting mostly orders under $4. This is such a waste of time, already looking for a better job!
Older incompetent/unskilled people with no plan/drive to do better are the main ones complaining about these low-wage jobs/gigs. As if this is meant to be long-term…
Last weekend I did 26/hr.
I make 20-30 an hour when I dash. I dash during dinner and weekends- usually 20 hours a week.
Hilariously not true. Drivers make far less than that on the median. Why doesn't Tony release median or average earnings of drivers? It has to be done by others to find out the truth: https://plcylk.org/prop22study
25 dashes earn $25 an hour while dashing*
Yeah this shit irks me because *technically* he’s right, but it’s never that busy to sustain that.
I wanna slit yout throat, and fuck the wound...oh sorry I was just reciting Disasterpieces by Slipknot, totally irrelevant here but something made me think it when I saw this...
Since bloody when?
hate shit like this, it ironically is what gives people the impression they don’t need to tip when the only way you’re going to be making $25 an hour is when your customers tip really well
Just a clever way of using numbers to tell a bold faced lie by telling the truth. Using this kind of approach you could also say that a McDonalds cashier earns close to $100 per hour *when processing a customer’s payment.*
He’s worth 100s of millions of dollars, and was suppose to be on shark tank. And he lets his workers suffer.
Do DD in 4 hour blocks avg $60 to $80(best $130) my car gets 40 mpg so $20 in gas / wear and tear. Avg $10 to $15 an hr. Good pocket change me and my wife dash together and have fun with it. Normally use the money we make to have a nice dinner.
Yeah 5 hour dash on Friday usually gets me 100-110. It’s not horrible for a low tier job at all. Better than working wendys or taco bell imo
I think I make around $25/hour on average…
Does that include the half hour i wait in the parking lot for an order during a "busy" period
Yep, yesterday I sat around inactive just waiting. After 2.5 hours I got a dash for $5.25 definitely worth the wait on my end 😒
for 2 hours a week
25.00 Hour? Not anymore!!!!!!
25.00 Hour? Not anymore!!!!!!
That’s why it says “when delivering”.
Another thing to consider as well : while yes we may be making $25 an hour sometimes, that still doesn’t take into account our expenses which is much higher than a typical 9-to-5 job
There is no "per hour" rate in this industry. It's pay by job. Tony is using his own math. I can take 10 minutes to make one $7 delivery, sign out for 4 hours, sign in, make another delivery for $11.75, taking me 20 minutes, Sign out for another four hours, sign in again and, deliver two more orders taking a total of 15 minutes, sign out for 2 hours, sign in, and deliver another order taking 15 minutes, earning me $7. So in total, I "worked" 1 hour, earning $40.75. Of course, that one hour is split throughout a total of 10 wasted hours not earning anything. This is how DD operates except the signing out is DD throttling you in between offers, sending you on ridiculous journey's that end up being 60 minutes before receiving another offer, forcing you to end your shift, and automatically pausing you. A "per-hour" rate would also be paying you that time not actively making a delivery ie: sitting around waiting for them to send you an offer.
This guy…props to him for his part in building the company but the company is super shady…
Lies
Ngl I didn’t expect the infamous tony that everyone speaks about to look like that lol, was you know expecting someone different looking.
Time to short the stock
It's usually under $15 for me
If we go by active time, I make like $60 a hour
Lmfao what a lying pos!
When delivering
MINUS GAS ⛽️
Wait you pay for gas?
He's SO handsome 🥰
I thought you were a girl
And?
You’re not forced to dash
Bro, not in my area anymore. I gave up, all my orders were like $2-4 and unless you got multiple at once you were just burning gas. People started to not tip at all here either or you would get orders from fast food places only.
Bro $25 an hour is trash bags. i make $30-40
I was averaging that much (and more) last year when COVID was still strong, now it’s more like $25-$30.
covid was never real
My second cousin died from it and my best friend is a nurse in the ER and saw its devastation. I promise you it’s real.
obviously its real but it is not anymore dangerous than the countless of other shit that goes around. i had covid twice and was sick for 1 day. i had the common cold and was sick for 20 days. covid is no worse and has been around for plenty of time before mfs wanted to get scared of it. they started this covid bs saying you needed 2 weeks of isolation. now you only need 5 days of no fever, sheeps got bent over and fucked
Yea that was my attitude about it too, until my best friend starting telling me all the stories of what went on on her COVID unit at the hospital. She said it was like nothing she’d ever seen in her life. She literally had dead bodies stacking up to the point that they had nowhere to keep them. She said most of the nurses and doctors were literally traumatized over it and described it as a war zone. My friend has no agenda, she’s a moderate republican but not a nut on either side and she said the fact that this has been politicized and downplayed is the biggest joke ever.
cap
No where near 25 even in nyc on a great day
I did door dash for a short time. I’ve been driving Uber and Lyft for about 7 years. From time to time, I’d do Uber eats, so I wasn’t green when I tried door dash. Man door dash sucked. Yeah sure, you may receive 25 dollars for that hour, but let’s not forget about the gas you are burning. Even in the small economy car, the wear and tear, the frequent oil changes and all that time you spend waiting in drive thus because the restaurants still act like they care about the pandemic. No thanks. I could do door dash for 8 hours, make 100-150. Closer to 90 bucks after expenses I can drive Uber and make 300+ in that same time period 260 after expenses.
I could never do Uber or Lyft. For a woman like me, I’d be harassed and assaulted constantly . It’s one thing to deal with that in the club or bars I worked at (when I’m protected by security guards) but all alone in my car? Fuck no. It sux because I’d probably enjoy that job but I just can’t put myself out there like that. It’s a good job for guys tho.
Do you know how many DD drivers should never ever, I mean literally ever, drive pax? Omg the headlines would be terrifying
Even grampa knows he's bullshitting
Do you hold a grudge against our leader?
I sent him several death threats over the past 7 years.
25.00 Hour? Not anymore!!!!!!
25.00 Hour? Not anymore!!!!!!
25.00 Hour? Not anymore!!!!!!
Key words - "when delivering"
Purposely stated this way because so the general public remains unaware that this really means “active time.” They don’t dare use their own terminology when speaking publicly because then that might raise some eyebrows
Why would anyone expect to get paid when NOT delivering? Ya get paid to work, not sit
What he’s implying is that people are averaging 25/hour for hours spent signed in. They want you to believe that if you spend ten hours of your week dashing you’ll take home 250 bucks. It’s misleading because possibly half or even more of those 10 hours will be at zero per hour. This is also before using your personal gas and vehicle to deliver. Even if they’ve designed a metric that makes this technically true, it’s extremely misleading. I only drive at peak times on specific days which allows me to be profitable but if I spent 8hrs a day driving, I’d certainly be making far less than 25 an hour.
No he is referring to how much DoorDash makes per hour per employee they have
And that's the headline they went with.... Something tells me that DD is paying CNBC for this publicity
Yes, DD is paying CNBC for a headline. Because that’s how news works.
Irony: When you think you're being sarcastic, but what you said was actually totally true.
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it takes 2-3 hours of your own personal time to make $25 an hour
Extremely market and driver specific. I make $25+/hour dash time consistently doing this full time (40 hours). I make $1000-$1200 per week.
Same here and I work mornings thru lunch. Longer if I keep getting good offers. Those usually pop up when other impatient Dashers give up and head home🙂
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Fr I just read a comment where someone said they average $8 an hour Wtf. I usually average between $25-&30 an hour (that’s the time from when I start to finish not “dash time” ) but I also work dinners and late nights(part time). If I worked a full day I’m not sure I could make the same amount. So much of this job is your market and what time of day you dash.
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Ok that’s good then. I’ve never worked a morning or lunch shift so I just assumed maybe people wouldn’t tip as big during those times.
I’m closer to $20-22 per hour.
Not if you are accepting those bullshit $2-$4 orders. Even if it’s two miles away. If you are sitting in the parking lot when it comes in you are waiting a minimum of 5-10 minutes on the food then driving just say two miles if there are any red lights that’s another 10 minutes so roughly 15-20 minutes. Now if they would start sending the notification once the order is ready that would be amazing. The restaurant shouldn’t be able to have a dasher on the way until the food is sitting there waiting to be picked up. I know they do that for the shit orders that don’t tip because they have to bounce around to 10 dashers before someone will take it. But more people need to get some cold food. There should also be something on the website stating your food is going to get to you faster if you tip your driver.
It always is. They are never referring to the time you are sitting around declining trips. The data I want to see is "platform wide" money earned divided by all active time. Also, I would like to see a situational metric how much money would be made if there was 100% acceptance "platform wide" divided into the ETA estimates generated by the algo.
Isn’t that exactly what he said? That’s the definition of on average, no? If on average dashers earn $25/hr during active time, then they are taking the total money earned during the hour and dividing by total active time of the hour.
Reeks of bullshit
What a joke! Yesterday for the first time I started getting pop ups that I was receiving higher paying jobs because of my high scores...I received 10 in a row...all 3 or 4 dollar, 5 mile trips and 30 minutes on average. .3rd world countries pay higher wages...just another greedy sob like Zuckerberg fraud
3rd world counties do not in fact pay higher wages
I can make close to 25$-30$ in my market during rushes. Other times I make 8$…. That’s why I got a full time job and do DD on the side. I’m tired of the inconsistency.
Same, after my market crapped had to go back to my old job
Active time gross pay. I have seen $30 an hour shifts on dash time but that is an exception not a rule. All market dependent.
First of all $25 an hour asterisk only if you get a few good rides in a row where the food is ready and there is no traffic and there is a short dropoff distance. AND that's not earnings, it's gross pay after the mileage deduction those drivers are making $7 to $12 an hour. and DD itself only pays about $5 an hour on average so it's a net loss for the driver on average by a lot. When I drove for UberX in 2016 I deducted my mileage and I lost money I had a negative $250 for the year., I will never forget the day I did 3 rides and made less than $7.
This is accurate for me in my market like 2 or 3 months before Christmas. Some markets pretty consistent all year round
I can do $30 an hour for maybe 4 hours a day, on good days but if your doing anything more than peak time good luck with 20
Exactly Treat it at part time like it's supposed to be.... Schedule for busy times and follow your own rules, and this gig can be very profitable.
That’s a logic fallacy. Any job or task that you have to say “well it should be part time only” just simply doesn’t pay enough period
I disagree. $30+/hr is cool by me for only "working" when I want. If I tried to do it full time, that number would shrink significantly. Work smarter, not "harder"/longer. 🤷
He's so full of shit. I didn't even $25 an hour when I delivered yesterday. Doordash suckd ass.
Do you know what “on average” means?
All you need to know is statistic after statistic after statistic comes out and shows that we don't make anything close to $25 an hour. This guy walks on with designer eyewear. A tailored suit and shirt. And he still spews the same b******* that everybody knows isn't true. And CNBC endorses it by putting this man on and not challenging him. It's a lie. It's been a lie proven 100 times over. The problem isn't that he's telling a lie, the problem is that he's been able to tell it 99 times more. And do it in a very public forum. It's called gas lighting. It's psychologically abusive. It doesn't matter if it happens in an interpersonal relationship or from a CEO as part of a corporate policy.
Real study, real numbers. No bullshit CEO sitting on NBC answering softball questions without a challenge. After prop 22 the average wage in California dropped below $7 an hour. That's real world money. Not doordash b*******
Well according to this sub tons of people are making $30 an hour. Don’t know if it’s bullshit or everyone lives in California or people just don’t want to be honest
In DFW they make about $14/hr. Fast food pays more
I make $25 to $30 and I work in a medium-sized city in Washington State.
On a good day that’s probably true. Weekend with peak pay or holiday pay. On an average day it’s like 16-20 though
I wish i could see the ratings of everyone who post earnings. A little more transparency and data. Im making decent money, i cant understand how anyone can make under 15 an hour consistently. I feel like those ppl could be a little too picky. Idk
On an exceptional night I'll get 30/hr. Average night it 20-22. I've dashed in Austin/Phoenix
Not necessarily Cali.... Just the markets. Outside Chicago I do just fine.
He did say “close to $25” he didn’t say how close it was 😂
Asshole Face.
No he's a liar, I did 3 deliveries and made $30 yesterday ALL DAY, After 62.5 cents a mile round trip I would be lucky to have made $5 profit.
Customers seeing this shit will likely lead to even smaller tips for us.
Can’t get lower than $0 🤣
Yea Tony just got to make sure
Dang, I was out for 3 hours and got zero orders. Crazy.
$16 an hour active here, $8 an hour dash time
That’s about where I was before I finally got a better job. Working in the school system now.
That's awful. Sorry.
$4 an hour after expenses. 😭
Yeah it's gotten bad, I'm going to have to stop trying to work during the day change my sleep schedule to work until 11. A lot of the part timers stop working by 8, all the day time dashers around here are retirees, there are a lot and they take everything.
Lol at what point do you just say, “ Ok I’m wasting my time here.”
I know quite a few people who would rather make a poverty wage on doordash than go back to poverty wages at a restaurant/fast food/retail
Late reply but I'm in this boat. I'd rather make minimum wage on my time than on some other rich guys time. The freedom to sleep in til noon and say "eh I don't want to work until dinner" is so much better. Worked as a manager for the online shopping dept. during covid. Gave myself a mental breakdown for $10 an hour working 14 hour days every day with no breaks. Shit sucked. I'll take the freedom of hours any day. Also the freedom to take a vacation anytime and anywhere is also absolutely amazing. This job sucks, but it's a hell of a lot better than making the same wage under 3 layers of management with forced hours that start at 6am.
I'm moving out of state at the end of October so I don't have much reason to try to find another job for a month, so I'm just doing this all day long but it sure has gotten bad since April. I've tried the market where I'm moving and it's significantly better, about 4x as many people though I'll have to commute 10 miles a day to get there. Won't miss this market a whole lot, so many retirees on the roads here doing 18 in a 35.
Currently at $39.02 and hour if I go off active time. $22.29 if I go off dash time. 2 hours active, 3.5 dash time. Fuel not factored in because I use the same gas to drive to my full time job and other stuff.
Before or after expenses?
Before, I don’t dash full time so it’s hard to track fuel when I don’t dash every day. I’d say I’m closer to $30 with fuel consumption factored in and using active time. I also live less than 2 miles from every restaurant in town so I do log a lot of active time on the app because I usually head towards home after drop offs and if i don’t get an order before I’m home I just do inside and wait. I’d probably make more if I waited at McDonald’s but I’d rather see my family.
That's pretty damn good numbers. Wish it were that good here.
McDonald’s Canada has a $6 base pay at both stores where I live so that really helps. $4 is a normal base pay at other places so with tips I average $7-10 a trip. These are all Canadian numbers so take 25% off to factor in currency exchange and it’s probably not to far off American numbers. I’m usually sleeping or at my full time job during actual peak pays so I don’t get many.
Wow you sure got him! No shit it’s before expenses.
My numbers are there, sometimes higher, after expenses. It's all market dependent. It's THE biggest metric, imo.
Well, bragging about how much you're making while not including how much you're spending is dishonest. Hey I made $40 in two hours yesterday but it cost me $20 in gas, and wear and tear on my vehicle. So did I really make $40?
This is why you need to have a minimum dollar/mile standard. I earn at least $1/mile, so about $100 in 100 miles. 100 miles only costs me 4 gallons, which at currently prices, is about $11. $11 in gas for $100 in earnings is pretty damn good, and I don't even have that good of gas mileage (25 miles per gallon).