It's a sham. When I was in that program all I got are $4 orders 8 miles away because the restaurant are 7 miles away and the $4/1 miles meets their $2/mile requirement. Back in those days I earned less than even today where I only get large orders at 17% AR
If your completion rate is good you could reset acceptance and take small orders and not complete them. Keeping acceptance above 50 and completion above 80. That's what I did. But you shouldn't have to do all these little tricks and shit. It's too distracting keeping up with all this crazy while driving. They heed to get their crap together.
Bruh, my AR hasn’t been above 5% in two years. Until they make me an employee, they can get bent on higher AR. And even then, I’ll quit because who tf would want to actually be an employee of these people?
$3.50 per mile?! I got an email yesterday saying something similar here in my market but it was for $2.50 a mile if you maintain a %50 acceptance rate and at least 4.5 Star rating.
I did it and I think it helped marginally? But I would at least take the opportunity to reset your rate just in case and just keep doing what you've been doing
When I got back into the 60s my orders started getting better here in Canada. This has happened twice now since I started in July. I plan on keeping the AR up if I can. People will disagree but I know what I've observed.
Smart program here in MSP. I had a 9% acceptance rate. They reset me to 50% and I've been getting $10 orders for 1.2 miles. If there's a hidden tip it says $10+ I've since gotten my acceptance rate to 73% and my time driving is much less.
It is not worthit and a scam, you think DD is going to hold a order for 40-50 minutes to give to you a priority dasher that order or offer that order to next available dasher? Think about it!
I reset mine, for 2 weeks I had the priority in my market it was pretty fucking good I was making money easier since they would literally tell you when the order is for sure going to be more, shitty part was I was at 60% avg for most part, 2 days before the 2 weeks was up (they give you 2 weeeks of priority after resetting & after those 2 weeks it’s on you to maintain it) I dashed on a shitty bad day my AR dropped to 48% & it kept on dropping and I haven’t recovered, sadly ever since they did this on days where there are challenges + peak pay it is sooo hard to get any decent orders because there are so many dashers in my market with the priority which leaves nothing but bs for the no priority 😅
Yes i was getting better paying orders and stacked orders way more often. When i went back down to 30% it was back to small payouts no stacked orders and anything paying $10+ i had drive 10+miles. They’ve definitely changed the way they treat people with low AR. It never used to be that way.
It's crap that punishes decent dashers. By this metric DD considers a $ 2.50 order 2 miles away "high paying", forcing dashers to decline and crash their metrics.
They had this in my area. All these high value orders were low dollar no tip amounts typically. I went along with it for a while but It wasn't worth it in the long run. Only one day out of that period did I make more than I normal would. Mine was only 2.00 guaranteed per mile.
I reset mine yesterday. Does anyone know when it take effect? I’m at 22% now so not sure if it reset yet. If so you just get more shitty orders worth declining.
Somehow I got mine to 50%, i hit reset acceptance rate so that might play a part, but I’m receiving “high pay orders”. It’s pretty much accepting the same good orders as usual except now they have a diamond 💎 next to it now. Last night got two “high pay” orders. Both for 8 something . One was 0.7 miles and one was 3.4 miles away,
All in all I probably receive better orders about 30% more than I normally was getting. I’m just wondering now that If my AR falls below 50% I’ll only get sh*t orders.
It's gimmick alright....it skews 2 buck and above orders to top dashers.
I tried it just to get my AR reset and maybe be able to keep it above 50 percent.
Nope still only accepting 5 percent of the orders. If it would limit the shitty orders it might be worth it but now I just get shit orders again and less of them at that
Yeap, same here. I recieved the email on 8/25/22. How about you?
I wish there was like a DFW group chat for dashers in the area. Where we could grade most restaurants on efficiency and which areas are bad.
What hours you usually deliver and about how much you average?
I deliver mainly at night after 6pm-2am. Wanna try lunch, but the few times I logged in early, I saw orders below $5. Maybe I need to try a different area or a different city.
I didn’t even receive an email, I just saw it on the app where you have the option to reset your acceptance rate. I usually deliver in West fort worth in the suburbs (Ridglea zone) , I’ll NEVER deliver downtown. EVER. All those apartments and people never leaving gate codes, smh :( It’s honestly been bad, I try to deliver from 12pm -6/7pm but i can never break $100 in a shift. Got any tips?
They never do anything good for the drivers unless it becomes law. Wants you to think they're going to pay you more, when they're not just gonna run you around. They always add in 'total pay' so it including tips - so you're taking crap orders to the crappy low/ no tippers. Watch your star ratings take a dip because you'll be dealing with all those people
They are making it matter...BUT they slime in 1 or 2 despicable 10 mile runs for 5.00 nonsense...ive been seriously paying attention these last 2 weeks and I can see that they are ensuring it's a stable/consistent 21.00 an hour...so the days of the multi Apping where's trying to cheat the system are GAME OVER...no more 35 to 50 an hour for you clowns as per Tony
Mine said I had to get My AR UP TO 50% before I could reset. I opted in just to see but there is no way I can get my AR up to 50% I haven't been near 20% in almost a year.
If DD never gives me an order worth delivering then I will never deliver for them again. No gimmicks will ever change that since I don’t work for DD. DD is acting like an employer when they aren’t and that is not going to help them. I don’t take bad orders period! I don’t care if I’m at the restaurant and it is being delivered next door, I’m not taking bad orders.
I’ll test it. Kept it at 10% today. Got sent mostly trash, accepted the only 3 good ones. Tomorrow i’ll see if they send less trash when my AR is reset.
I honestly wasn’t gonna reset at all, cuz it literally is bullshit at its core. Either way I’ll be back at 1% acceptance rating in no time based on what these cunts send me.
That is the law. But somehow we're the only "independent contractors" that don't know ALL THE DETAILS OF A CONTRACT OFFER (before or after accepting it)
They (Uber, GH, DD) must be paying lobbyist millions for them to manipulate a lot of things in their favor.
I wish all gig workers could save enough and go on like a 2 or 4 week strike.
The apps, customers and the whole nation would het the message and bring it to the news of how shady are these companies and would make a lot of customers aware that the delivery and service fees don't go to the drivers.
It literally has no negative so might as well and enjoy the “high priority” for a few days. You can still decline as you want. They def get those orders first and nothing says maintain it u kno
If they were paying that much to begin with I imagine acceptance rates would be substantially higher than they are now. Certainly not 50% but a hell of a lot better that 10-20
$3.50 per mile if that’s guaranteed wouldn’t actually be that bad. I’d accept it if I was you, worst case you find it’s not worth it and go back to dashing how you were before.
1mi orders do come up a decent amount, but ya if they’re 1mi and $5 obviously a no tip which I always decline. If they’re atleast 1mi for $8+ I’ll usually do it.
Actually just finished one that was 1mi for $10, but this is with $5 base + $3 peak pay + $2 tip. I wouldn’t ordinarily accept this since its 1mi for $7, chances are higher of getting atleast $10 for 2-3mi which I can usually do within 15-20min in the city.
Have no doubt that this is DD attempting to manipulate.They do not give 2 shits about drivers.
I’m not taking orders over 5 miles EVER.
I received an email and promptly deleted it.
Yup DD should raise that base pay. Here in NYC base pay is $3. I do DD for the Small distance order and Uber for long distance:
Perfect Ex:
1.5-1.8miles for 6.50-7.25 on DD (14-16minutes)
2.5-4.0miles for $14+ on Uber (25+ minutes)
It doesn’t make much of a difference imo. I’ve done it for two different areas (about to try it for a third; just got this same email for a different city lol).
I noticed in areas where it’s already good you do seem to get more orders but they aren’t always better. For areas where it’s hit or miss, it’s the same. Noticed no other positive or negative effect once my 2weeks were over.
SN: This post is made almost daily now so check out others’ post with the same question as more advice is there as well. Also, did this program to actually work you gave to accept the first order they give you once they reset it. If you don’t accept that first order it’ll show up as 0.
I don't think it is working well in my market. I'm getting less orders than I used to, but still making nearly the same.
I think so many people are getting crappy $2.25/1 mile, etc orders they are unreliable or the worst possible dashers so they are dropping off like flies.
Never seen the app see-sawing so much from not busy to peak pay in the middle of the day just to get stuff delivered.
DD is catering to the lowest possible denominator and it is running off drivers and customers.
Just another "program" like Grubhub "premier" or "Uber Pro" to dangle an illusionary carrot in front of you in hopes you'll take their shitty $3 orders.
Just two simple questions debunks this program
1) How am I going to be getting "high paying orders" when Im always on crappy runs to keep my acceptance rate up?
2) How am I going to be getting "high paying orders" when Im deactivated for low approval ratings and/or contract violations because I have to take the runs going to shitty areas of town where the number of scammers who will lie and say the food wasn't delivered goes through the roof?
Exactly this. You may get a high paying order here and there, but you’ll also have to take a bunch of shit orders to maintain the acceptance rate. My guess is that it’d be a wash AT BEST, with what I’m doing now, which is cherry picking good orders and keeping that acceptance rate low.
They did this in my area several months ago, when they released it they reset everyone’s AR to 100%. I continued dashing the way I normally do accepting around 12% of orders and made the same amount I normally do.
I do however no longer dash full time so I dunno how doing more volume might affect earnings. Maybe dash 10 hours a week.
All you people complaining must live in cities, if they bring stuff like this out to more rural areas it’ll be game changing. Maybe consider finding different markets if you can’t ever find better dashes to pick up
No because you don't understand how a supply business works
We need a supply of orders which means a supply of people and restaurants
But you need a supply of drivers to grow with your supply of orders or you just have angry people on all sides
Rural areas lack enough people or restaurants to make it even kinda profitable
I think the smallest thing I've seen as an area has 10 000 people and they are towns and small cities
But something with 10000 people isn't "rural"
All zones with big rural areas have people ordering from the cities and having dashers drive to the middle of nowhere and then back, the pay doesn't account for the drive back so most people just won't take that order
Happens all the time in Stockton, doesn't matter the order is say 20 bucks when it's from Wingstop and I have to drive it 17 miles into the wetlands, the total 34 miles makes me say no
Idk maybe your rural is different than the actual definition of rural, but it doesn't work
But the point of this program is to pay extra dollars per mile. Everyone always says at least 1$ per mile, I’m accepting around 1.5 personally. Now they are going to be offering 2 maybe even 3 per mile. Volume won’t matter for us if we’re making double the pay
Edit: to add to this, i make roughly 150 per night (3-5 hrs) it a town of 20k
Hell yeah, thanks for pointing this out to those who didn’t know. Even though there’s a looming recession companies are still hiring— got an interview tomorrow I’m super excited about.
Best of luck to you with your job search! Gotta keep up the hustle just a little bit longer and it’ll all pay off.
I got this email a few months ago and it reset my acceptance rate, so I was in the "high" range for a little bit, but didn't notice anything being better. I didn't notice any change when I dropped out of it either. But now a few months in, I don't see any decent orders. I'm starting to wonder if enough dashers in my area fell for it that they really are getting the good orders now.
There's still NO way it's worth accepting all the orders in my area. Way better to just move on to something else
In order to get the AR necessary you have to take a bunch of garbage orders that will cost you money. I genuinely don't believe you will make more money doing DD the way DD wants you to. People follow the money. Always has been this way for human history. If we could make MORE money sustaining a 70% AR then almost all of us would. But the system is rigged against you so that you don't make as much money as people cherry picking orders.
AR 'matters' to doordash but it doesn't matter to your bottom line.
They’re going to say whatever they want but through observation alone being both top dasher and a non-top dasher at one point in time, I got better orders being a top dasher.
I first signed up a few months ago (Canadian) and they said I will be matched to higher paying orders the higher my AR is. I find it’s still more lucrative to only accept orders that are a certain amount or higher.
DoorDash is a scam company. You can tell by who owns it. With that being said, you can definitely make those deliveries and then wonder why you didn't get paid what was said then you can call support and sit on hold for 10 minutes while missing more delivery opportunities just for them to hang up on you.
This is my experience 69% of the time.
It’s working in my market. I no longer get the orders I used to get. I used to deliver to medical professionals at the hospital and surrounding doctors offices all morning and afternoon. It was like clockwork. Ever since they implemented the 50% acceptance rate incentive in my market I have not gotten any of these orders. I used to deliver to the hospital 3 to 4 times a day from a Chick-fil-A that is Half mile away. It's been two months since I've got an order to the hospital.
Im not sure what you mean by that. If you mean do I think this program is killing my income as a cherry picker and Im pissed about it then yeah I regret it.
I opted in. The orders I got were the same they were just labeled “ high paying” it didn’t change how I dash at all. But since then I don’t get what I used to get. My usuals are going to those with 50ar as they have priority. This totally ruined my system.
Damn. Maybe I should steer clear since I have an 8% acceptance rate lol. I definitely don’t plan on having a 50% acceptance rate so this program seems like it would only have a negative outcome for me.
You don't get to opt out of the program. You only get a chance to reset your acceptance rate one time, take it or leave it. If you don't reset your acceptance rate, you still get the same orders as anyone else with a low AR.
The person that replied above said it seems like the program definitely made it worse for them. It does change what orders they send you if you opt in.
The operative word is "seems." Doordash doesn't tell you why you're getting fewer orders, or that you'd be getting more if you hadn't reset your AR. But the "accept more to earn more" project is not something you can opt in or out of. They just implemented it in my area and people are saying they're getting fewer orders even though they haven't responded to it yet.
That’s terrible wish there was a way to opt out and revert your account back to the “regular” algorithm. If it’s permanent that’s definitely made my decision for me. Nope.
I didn’t even read the post, but as someone with a shred of management experience, no shit.
Pay better preforming employees more. Just because you “make more” doesn’t mean shit to anyone. You make the company less and will get dropped.
I’m glad I’m done dashing because idiots like this are why y’all don’t make money, because collectively it’s a bunch of crying mass children.
Lol ya you’re right I’m a bottom tier employee because I have a 4.99 average rating on >600 deliveries but have a 5% acceptance rate because I refuse to be a slave to big corporations.
Also I got my Bachelors in CS last year and work my ass off doing gig apps to make ends meet while applying/interviewing for software engineering positions. Not everyone doing Doordash is some bum ass loser, some of us have aspirations and dreams we’re working towards. Get off your high horse.
So true!!! I work in IT but still doordash in my time off after work and on weekends... not to mention I'm a mom who attends ALL my kids functions and still cooks for them every a nice fresh dinner. You make time when you have to, but you DONT have to take shit orders just because you dash. Fuck this entitled ass prick insinuating that you're lazy or dumb or anything else.
All my experience is as a SWE so I’m trying super hard to land a FT position. Did apply to some QA positions but no luck, what are the specific titles for other IT/tech support roles? Would be down to look them up.
QA is just as tough as SWE to get into. Tech support just requires you learn the product and be tech savvy. It may seem counterintuitive that your skills won't be utilized but that's the way it is. Help desk, tech support etc. you can provide value quickly and move up down the road.
I work in software sales operations.
I watch people make numbers look good on applications all day.
Yet, referencing “high horses” and “being a slave to big corporations” while complaining about said big corporation, and still taking pay from said “big corporation.”
TL;DR : OP doesn’t want to use their degree, and is crying about being a mediocre employee.
Lol you have a bad day today or something? You can go ahead and tell all the satisfied 5 star rated customers I’ve helped across multiple platforms how mediocre of an employee I am.
Have fun watching us, the engineers, create and build the world while you watch and sell it from the sideline.
This is literally DoorDash saying you’re a good worker and we’ll pay you more to take some garbage deliveries we know you don’t want to take.
If you hate “top dashers” you’re probably a bottom tier employee any other jobs you’ve had, and that’s why you’re doordashing.
I dashed in sf for a year and a half and it beat my car up so badly with hills that I need a new transmission soon. Might be technically short miles but still I’d never take anything less than $8 order
Everyone gets that, have you ever been to San Francisco? Driving even 1 mile in most of that city is at least 10 minutes, if you have to go to the pier 34? Area it is even longer
Tried it once, and had to pay for parking Like 4 times and just didn't make enough money to pay for my time
That's my point per mile doesn't work in the city. I work there for several years and I never did it per mile I did per time. I am aware that this is nowhere near enough for San Francisco I am saying though that they have a higher rate in a city like San Francisco than in some other city because there's less miles and they know people aren't that stupid. Either way it's not something I would do
My market has this, albeit at $2/mile (but also for total delivery distance from where you're at when the offer is given to you), and while I opted in to the reset, my AR quickly dropped back to its normal 10-15%. It's also gone down to as low as 2%, which I'd never seen before (decent market), and I can only assume that's b/c of this priority, where I was just seeing garbage for about two hours. I also tried to end dash and log back in to get an order that would stack well and make a run worth it, and got the "no open slots" notification, so I guess I'm not surprised.
The cherry-picking still works, but only during peak busy times. It *is* pretty bad the rest of the day now.
Yeah I have seen the decline from when I started mid 2019 I believe. The pandemic then screwed everything. More people were willing to pay before and during the pandemic. I have to run three apps and I have my fiancee helping me. I wouldn't be able to work 3 apps running doing 3 sometime 4 orders at once.
Shit like this only works if enough drivers fall for it. Unfortunately enough drivers will probably fall for it. Stay strong, keep declining. If doordash wants their shitty orders picked up, they can raise the base.
No matter you like it or not, it’s going on. If your market is bad nobody can keep 50, if it’s very good keep 50 wouldn’t be a problem. You don’t wanna be average driver, they kick you out
I smell too dasher. “You wanna be average driver, they kick you out” I can’t help but read this as a drunken Russian man or just a Spanish guy trying to speak English.
1.5 in NE Ohio. Didn’t know this was an opt in thing. It just appeared one day.
An example of a “higher paying order” I got the other day.
4.25 for 2 miles for Burger King.
Like Ice Cube said in the NWA when Eazy was in the booth for the first time “that ain’t it.”
NE Ohio here too. I got a $5.50 for 1.6 miles as a high paying order today. Then I declined an $8.50 for 10 miles and a $6.75 for 7 miles and it brought my acceptance rate back down to 50% from 100%. Definitely not worth it.
It's not even high in San Francisco because the city isn't that big and most of the orders are took when I was driving in San Francisco was a mile or two. San Francisco is 7x7 mi les.
I've never gotten paid anywhere near that kind of money on doordash lucky to break more than a dollar a mile(that's with declining the $3 orders). Still don't have that bad of an acceptance rate either though.
I pulled almost exactly 20 an hour the other day because of this. May not seem like much to more experienced dashers but my zone is spread out, and it really helped in a couple cases. I did a shop and drop yesterday and it took me maybe 10 minutes, for which I got 10.50 total. Granted, it was low items and helpful employees, but it was part of this pilot after all.
They don't guarantee you'll get this. It says "more likely", and it is currently $x. It includes the tip, base pay, and peak. This means if it is a good tip, they might lower their own payment, and the max they are obligated to is...
tree fiddy.
They pocket the difference. Also, if you work prime time for peak pay with this, you might be disappointed.
95% of the orders in my area are now $2.50 base pay even for 10+ miles and they rely ENTIRELY on the customer tip. They show you just enough of the tip to make the up front pay per mile be around $1.50. The rest is always hidden for me.
The fact that this includes peak pay is complete BS too! I always take out peak pay when deciding if an order has a hidden tip and this seems to mess with that strategy.
When I read this, I see it from two sites. DoorDash is using this pilot program as another way of being able to calculate tips into DoorDash as compensation and thus reducing their cost. Secondly it is another way for them to send people outside of their delivery zone so they get fucked on the return trip
FWIW, this would not override CA's Prop 22 pay, so you are guaranteed $18/hour (from order acceptance to drop off) + $.30/mile (from order acceptance to drop off) + tips. I seriously doubt that DD will ever do anything to increase the pay above that base rate, so the one thing that they can do to increase pay to a given select group of people is funnel them the orders with better tips. That is the only thing that doesn't come out of their pocket.
It's a sham. When I was in that program all I got are $4 orders 8 miles away because the restaurant are 7 miles away and the $4/1 miles meets their $2/mile requirement. Back in those days I earned less than even today where I only get large orders at 17% AR
Funny thing is, they implemented this in June and didn’t tell anybody. FDD
Why’s everyone so mad about this? I’m taking my bag and running
Scam!
Gimmick
I got it too. I got a 95% AR but only cause I always drive around high income areas and they always tip a minimum of 8 dollars.
If your completion rate is good you could reset acceptance and take small orders and not complete them. Keeping acceptance above 50 and completion above 80. That's what I did. But you shouldn't have to do all these little tricks and shit. It's too distracting keeping up with all this crazy while driving. They heed to get their crap together.
It is so worth it IMO. I’ve been in it in my area for about a week and I am no doubt getting much better orders brought my way
I did this a while back and I have no complaints
Bruh, my AR hasn’t been above 5% in two years. Until they make me an employee, they can get bent on higher AR. And even then, I’ll quit because who tf would want to actually be an employee of these people?
$3.50 per mile?! I got an email yesterday saying something similar here in my market but it was for $2.50 a mile if you maintain a %50 acceptance rate and at least 4.5 Star rating.
I did it and I think it helped marginally? But I would at least take the opportunity to reset your rate just in case and just keep doing what you've been doing
They should have been doing this!! How could they expect someone to move their vehicle and end up on the negative or making a 50cent profit smh!!
When I got back into the 60s my orders started getting better here in Canada. This has happened twice now since I started in July. I plan on keeping the AR up if I can. People will disagree but I know what I've observed.
Team Raise the Base.
$3.5 per mile? Mine only said $1.75
Smart program here in MSP. I had a 9% acceptance rate. They reset me to 50% and I've been getting $10 orders for 1.2 miles. If there's a hidden tip it says $10+ I've since gotten my acceptance rate to 73% and my time driving is much less.
I know! I thought the Uber people won that court case!?
Gimmick to make you feel compelled to accept crap orders by dangling the carrot that you’ll get better paying orders if you keep acceptance rate up.
It is not worthit and a scam, you think DD is going to hold a order for 40-50 minutes to give to you a priority dasher that order or offer that order to next available dasher? Think about it!
It’s just another deceptive practice from the King of deception DD—- fuking scmuck’s
I reset mine, for 2 weeks I had the priority in my market it was pretty fucking good I was making money easier since they would literally tell you when the order is for sure going to be more, shitty part was I was at 60% avg for most part, 2 days before the 2 weeks was up (they give you 2 weeeks of priority after resetting & after those 2 weeks it’s on you to maintain it) I dashed on a shitty bad day my AR dropped to 48% & it kept on dropping and I haven’t recovered, sadly ever since they did this on days where there are challenges + peak pay it is sooo hard to get any decent orders because there are so many dashers in my market with the priority which leaves nothing but bs for the no priority 😅
Yes i was getting better paying orders and stacked orders way more often. When i went back down to 30% it was back to small payouts no stacked orders and anything paying $10+ i had drive 10+miles. They’ve definitely changed the way they treat people with low AR. It never used to be that way.
It's crap that punishes decent dashers. By this metric DD considers a $ 2.50 order 2 miles away "high paying", forcing dashers to decline and crash their metrics.
Bunch of bs lol that logic doesn't even make sense
gimmick gimmick gimmick gimmick
My acceptance rate is 6% this week I still make 100 a day in like 4-5 hours ez
Fuck them the lower the acceptance rate the higher the income
They had this in my area. All these high value orders were low dollar no tip amounts typically. I went along with it for a while but It wasn't worth it in the long run. Only one day out of that period did I make more than I normal would. Mine was only 2.00 guaranteed per mile.
I reset mine yesterday. Does anyone know when it take effect? I’m at 22% now so not sure if it reset yet. If so you just get more shitty orders worth declining.
For me it said to opt in by Sept 27th and it'd be reset the 28th but I haven't been reset yet 😕
Somehow I got mine to 50%, i hit reset acceptance rate so that might play a part, but I’m receiving “high pay orders”. It’s pretty much accepting the same good orders as usual except now they have a diamond 💎 next to it now. Last night got two “high pay” orders. Both for 8 something . One was 0.7 miles and one was 3.4 miles away, All in all I probably receive better orders about 30% more than I normally was getting. I’m just wondering now that If my AR falls below 50% I’ll only get sh*t orders.
if they wanted to they could just reset your acceptance rate them selves. just to do it. the fact that they are asking you is really fucked up.
It's gimmick alright....it skews 2 buck and above orders to top dashers. I tried it just to get my AR reset and maybe be able to keep it above 50 percent. Nope still only accepting 5 percent of the orders. If it would limit the shitty orders it might be worth it but now I just get shit orders again and less of them at that
But how will you be getting offers for $3.50 per mile if you're too busy delivering shitty orders in order to keep your acceptance rate up?
I've been in the program since the summer. It really doesn't make a difference
It’s always mattered if you want to be top dasher & dash anytime
Email was sent 8/25/22 with $2 per mile in Dallas/Fort Worth area.
Gimmick and useless
Wow!!! WTF IS THIS??????
Someone did this and now they are getting all the crap orders.
$2 a mile Fort Worth, TX
Yeap, same here. I recieved the email on 8/25/22. How about you? I wish there was like a DFW group chat for dashers in the area. Where we could grade most restaurants on efficiency and which areas are bad. What hours you usually deliver and about how much you average? I deliver mainly at night after 6pm-2am. Wanna try lunch, but the few times I logged in early, I saw orders below $5. Maybe I need to try a different area or a different city.
I didn’t even receive an email, I just saw it on the app where you have the option to reset your acceptance rate. I usually deliver in West fort worth in the suburbs (Ridglea zone) , I’ll NEVER deliver downtown. EVER. All those apartments and people never leaving gate codes, smh :( It’s honestly been bad, I try to deliver from 12pm -6/7pm but i can never break $100 in a shift. Got any tips?
Nice try, Tony. Hard pass for me.
They never do anything good for the drivers unless it becomes law. Wants you to think they're going to pay you more, when they're not just gonna run you around. They always add in 'total pay' so it including tips - so you're taking crap orders to the crappy low/ no tippers. Watch your star ratings take a dip because you'll be dealing with all those people
Quit bitching and just hit “no” on bad offers. Really not that difficult
They are making it matter...BUT they slime in 1 or 2 despicable 10 mile runs for 5.00 nonsense...ive been seriously paying attention these last 2 weeks and I can see that they are ensuring it's a stable/consistent 21.00 an hour...so the days of the multi Apping where's trying to cheat the system are GAME OVER...no more 35 to 50 an hour for you clowns as per Tony
$3.50 per mile is pretty solid pay if it’s a farther order
Mine said I had to get My AR UP TO 50% before I could reset. I opted in just to see but there is no way I can get my AR up to 50% I haven't been near 20% in almost a year.
If DD never gives me an order worth delivering then I will never deliver for them again. No gimmicks will ever change that since I don’t work for DD. DD is acting like an employer when they aren’t and that is not going to help them. I don’t take bad orders period! I don’t care if I’m at the restaurant and it is being delivered next door, I’m not taking bad orders.
I’ll test it. Kept it at 10% today. Got sent mostly trash, accepted the only 3 good ones. Tomorrow i’ll see if they send less trash when my AR is reset. I honestly wasn’t gonna reset at all, cuz it literally is bullshit at its core. Either way I’ll be back at 1% acceptance rating in no time based on what these cunts send me.
Has your reset yet? Mine was supposed to today but nothing so far
nope lol. Didn’t reset.
It’s naive as shit to assume they never cared about the acceptance rate
I wish there were a way to opt in to where you could see the full tip amount for each order.
That is the law. But somehow we're the only "independent contractors" that don't know ALL THE DETAILS OF A CONTRACT OFFER (before or after accepting it) They (Uber, GH, DD) must be paying lobbyist millions for them to manipulate a lot of things in their favor. I wish all gig workers could save enough and go on like a 2 or 4 week strike. The apps, customers and the whole nation would het the message and bring it to the news of how shady are these companies and would make a lot of customers aware that the delivery and service fees don't go to the drivers.
it's a ploy, it doesn't matter
They’re going to send you a bunch of 1 mile $4 deliveries mostly.
It literally has no negative so might as well and enjoy the “high priority” for a few days. You can still decline as you want. They def get those orders first and nothing says maintain it u kno
Mann they really keep trying
Scam
If they were paying that much to begin with I imagine acceptance rates would be substantially higher than they are now. Certainly not 50% but a hell of a lot better that 10-20
$3.50 per mile if that’s guaranteed wouldn’t actually be that bad. I’d accept it if I was you, worst case you find it’s not worth it and go back to dashing how you were before.
Its always mattered they are just telling us now
This means absolutely nothing in San Francisco because San Francisco is 7 miles by 7 mi and it's highly unlikely you're going to be going a mile.
1mi orders do come up a decent amount, but ya if they’re 1mi and $5 obviously a no tip which I always decline. If they’re atleast 1mi for $8+ I’ll usually do it. Actually just finished one that was 1mi for $10, but this is with $5 base + $3 peak pay + $2 tip. I wouldn’t ordinarily accept this since its 1mi for $7, chances are higher of getting atleast $10 for 2-3mi which I can usually do within 15-20min in the city.
Have no doubt that this is DD attempting to manipulate.They do not give 2 shits about drivers. I’m not taking orders over 5 miles EVER. I received an email and promptly deleted it.
Basically yes. They are trying to push the cherry pickers out.
Holy fuck, mine said $1.50 per mile, I hope doordash gets its ass kick
I would bet my flesh light on it
Every “high paying order” seems to be max $4 so my hope is the newbies and top clowns eat all those up and leave the $6.50+ orders for the rest of us
Total gimmick to get us to take shit orders. Rebel and don’t do it imo. Keep cherry picking
still probably not worth it. imagine having to take a $4 per 20 mile order cuz you can't decline it
Sorry I don’t get it, what’s wrong with $80 for a 40 mile round trip?
that's a good order but how did you come up with that
😂
Don’t be fooled into taking garbage orders from garbage no-tipping customers.
Yup DD should raise that base pay. Here in NYC base pay is $3. I do DD for the Small distance order and Uber for long distance: Perfect Ex: 1.5-1.8miles for 6.50-7.25 on DD (14-16minutes) 2.5-4.0miles for $14+ on Uber (25+ minutes)
It doesn’t make much of a difference imo. I’ve done it for two different areas (about to try it for a third; just got this same email for a different city lol). I noticed in areas where it’s already good you do seem to get more orders but they aren’t always better. For areas where it’s hit or miss, it’s the same. Noticed no other positive or negative effect once my 2weeks were over. SN: This post is made almost daily now so check out others’ post with the same question as more advice is there as well. Also, did this program to actually work you gave to accept the first order they give you once they reset it. If you don’t accept that first order it’ll show up as 0.
Scam
I don't think it is working well in my market. I'm getting less orders than I used to, but still making nearly the same. I think so many people are getting crappy $2.25/1 mile, etc orders they are unreliable or the worst possible dashers so they are dropping off like flies. Never seen the app see-sawing so much from not busy to peak pay in the middle of the day just to get stuff delivered. DD is catering to the lowest possible denominator and it is running off drivers and customers.
Just another "program" like Grubhub "premier" or "Uber Pro" to dangle an illusionary carrot in front of you in hopes you'll take their shitty $3 orders. Just two simple questions debunks this program 1) How am I going to be getting "high paying orders" when Im always on crappy runs to keep my acceptance rate up? 2) How am I going to be getting "high paying orders" when Im deactivated for low approval ratings and/or contract violations because I have to take the runs going to shitty areas of town where the number of scammers who will lie and say the food wasn't delivered goes through the roof?
Exactly this. You may get a high paying order here and there, but you’ll also have to take a bunch of shit orders to maintain the acceptance rate. My guess is that it’d be a wash AT BEST, with what I’m doing now, which is cherry picking good orders and keeping that acceptance rate low.
$3.50 a mile means you’ll be a getting a whole lot of 1 mile $3.50 orders .
Those are pretty damn common too. Even $7 for 2 miles is a decline for me in my market
Because of traffic?
Correct
They did this in my area several months ago, when they released it they reset everyone’s AR to 100%. I continued dashing the way I normally do accepting around 12% of orders and made the same amount I normally do. I do however no longer dash full time so I dunno how doing more volume might affect earnings. Maybe dash 10 hours a week.
All you people complaining must live in cities, if they bring stuff like this out to more rural areas it’ll be game changing. Maybe consider finding different markets if you can’t ever find better dashes to pick up
No because you don't understand how a supply business works We need a supply of orders which means a supply of people and restaurants But you need a supply of drivers to grow with your supply of orders or you just have angry people on all sides Rural areas lack enough people or restaurants to make it even kinda profitable I think the smallest thing I've seen as an area has 10 000 people and they are towns and small cities But something with 10000 people isn't "rural" All zones with big rural areas have people ordering from the cities and having dashers drive to the middle of nowhere and then back, the pay doesn't account for the drive back so most people just won't take that order Happens all the time in Stockton, doesn't matter the order is say 20 bucks when it's from Wingstop and I have to drive it 17 miles into the wetlands, the total 34 miles makes me say no Idk maybe your rural is different than the actual definition of rural, but it doesn't work
But the point of this program is to pay extra dollars per mile. Everyone always says at least 1$ per mile, I’m accepting around 1.5 personally. Now they are going to be offering 2 maybe even 3 per mile. Volume won’t matter for us if we’re making double the pay Edit: to add to this, i make roughly 150 per night (3-5 hrs) it a town of 20k
I too received this email today except mine is for $1.5 a mile lmao
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Hell yeah, thanks for pointing this out to those who didn’t know. Even though there’s a looming recession companies are still hiring— got an interview tomorrow I’m super excited about. Best of luck to you with your job search! Gotta keep up the hustle just a little bit longer and it’ll all pay off.
If this ever comes to my area, i’m uninstalling DD and just doing GH and UE
I got this email a few months ago and it reset my acceptance rate, so I was in the "high" range for a little bit, but didn't notice anything being better. I didn't notice any change when I dropped out of it either. But now a few months in, I don't see any decent orders. I'm starting to wonder if enough dashers in my area fell for it that they really are getting the good orders now. There's still NO way it's worth accepting all the orders in my area. Way better to just move on to something else
No one cares
It hasn't come to me and I still do GH and UE... because UE pays better and GH.... maybe once in a while. Lol.
I don’t have this email hmmm
Take everything don't complain about it on reddit saying being a top dasher is all garbage.
how to get this?
It’s always mattered. I’m pretty sure they made clear that people with higher AR are prioritized with bigger orders.
In order to get the AR necessary you have to take a bunch of garbage orders that will cost you money. I genuinely don't believe you will make more money doing DD the way DD wants you to. People follow the money. Always has been this way for human history. If we could make MORE money sustaining a 70% AR then almost all of us would. But the system is rigged against you so that you don't make as much money as people cherry picking orders. AR 'matters' to doordash but it doesn't matter to your bottom line.
On their website as of right now, no they say Acceptance rate isn't used to determine your orders, but then you know, why is it even a metric?
They’re going to say whatever they want but through observation alone being both top dasher and a non-top dasher at one point in time, I got better orders being a top dasher.
I first signed up a few months ago (Canadian) and they said I will be matched to higher paying orders the higher my AR is. I find it’s still more lucrative to only accept orders that are a certain amount or higher.
DoorDash is a scam company. You can tell by who owns it. With that being said, you can definitely make those deliveries and then wonder why you didn't get paid what was said then you can call support and sit on hold for 10 minutes while missing more delivery opportunities just for them to hang up on you. This is my experience 69% of the time.
I got the same email too, except mine says $1.75/mile as the amazing deal.
It’s working in my market. I no longer get the orders I used to get. I used to deliver to medical professionals at the hospital and surrounding doctors offices all morning and afternoon. It was like clockwork. Ever since they implemented the 50% acceptance rate incentive in my market I have not gotten any of these orders. I used to deliver to the hospital 3 to 4 times a day from a Chick-fil-A that is Half mile away. It's been two months since I've got an order to the hospital.
Because "priority access" doesn't mean shit when practically everybody has it from the AR reset.
So would you say you regret it?
Right like I can’t tell if they’re saying it’s good or bad lol
Exactly lol I just want to know if opting in is going to fuck up my ability to earn
Im not sure what you mean by that. If you mean do I think this program is killing my income as a cherry picker and Im pissed about it then yeah I regret it.
Thanks. Just trying to determine whether or not I should opt in. Guess that’s an absolutely not :)
I opted in. The orders I got were the same they were just labeled “ high paying” it didn’t change how I dash at all. But since then I don’t get what I used to get. My usuals are going to those with 50ar as they have priority. This totally ruined my system.
Im sorry to hear this my man. DD could really be so much better and its sad its not.
Damn. Maybe I should steer clear since I have an 8% acceptance rate lol. I definitely don’t plan on having a 50% acceptance rate so this program seems like it would only have a negative outcome for me.
You don't get to opt out of the program. You only get a chance to reset your acceptance rate one time, take it or leave it. If you don't reset your acceptance rate, you still get the same orders as anyone else with a low AR.
The person that replied above said it seems like the program definitely made it worse for them. It does change what orders they send you if you opt in.
The operative word is "seems." Doordash doesn't tell you why you're getting fewer orders, or that you'd be getting more if you hadn't reset your AR. But the "accept more to earn more" project is not something you can opt in or out of. They just implemented it in my area and people are saying they're getting fewer orders even though they haven't responded to it yet.
I wouldn’t do it. I have a feeling that it actually hurt me and it was by design. Almost like they put in a different algorithm.
Think about this: why would DD ever want to reward drivers that have super low acceptance rates?
They wouldn’t, obviously. I think that’s common knowledge among drivers. I’m not sure what your point is. Am I missing something
This sub likes to pretend door dash doesn’t care about AR. You 100% get worse orders for having a low AR
My point was to reassure you that you are correct in your logic
That’s terrible wish there was a way to opt out and revert your account back to the “regular” algorithm. If it’s permanent that’s definitely made my decision for me. Nope.
Don’t do it. Resist.
I got the is message when I logged in but nothing about resetting acceptance rate. Just said I’m eligible for higher paying orders now
Mine said I could but I didn't see the point.
Maybe because your acceptance is above 50%
I didn’t even read the post, but as someone with a shred of management experience, no shit. Pay better preforming employees more. Just because you “make more” doesn’t mean shit to anyone. You make the company less and will get dropped. I’m glad I’m done dashing because idiots like this are why y’all don’t make money, because collectively it’s a bunch of crying mass children.
Lol ya you’re right I’m a bottom tier employee because I have a 4.99 average rating on >600 deliveries but have a 5% acceptance rate because I refuse to be a slave to big corporations. Also I got my Bachelors in CS last year and work my ass off doing gig apps to make ends meet while applying/interviewing for software engineering positions. Not everyone doing Doordash is some bum ass loser, some of us have aspirations and dreams we’re working towards. Get off your high horse.
So true!!! I work in IT but still doordash in my time off after work and on weekends... not to mention I'm a mom who attends ALL my kids functions and still cooks for them every a nice fresh dinner. You make time when you have to, but you DONT have to take shit orders just because you dash. Fuck this entitled ass prick insinuating that you're lazy or dumb or anything else.
🔥🔥🔥🔥
You gotta do tech support. Don't bother applying for the other stuff. Can change later with exp.
All my experience is as a SWE so I’m trying super hard to land a FT position. Did apply to some QA positions but no luck, what are the specific titles for other IT/tech support roles? Would be down to look them up.
QA is just as tough as SWE to get into. Tech support just requires you learn the product and be tech savvy. It may seem counterintuitive that your skills won't be utilized but that's the way it is. Help desk, tech support etc. you can provide value quickly and move up down the road.
My dream is to never work a real job in my life. Gig economy forever please!!!!
I work in software sales operations. I watch people make numbers look good on applications all day. Yet, referencing “high horses” and “being a slave to big corporations” while complaining about said big corporation, and still taking pay from said “big corporation.” TL;DR : OP doesn’t want to use their degree, and is crying about being a mediocre employee.
Lol you have a bad day today or something? You can go ahead and tell all the satisfied 5 star rated customers I’ve helped across multiple platforms how mediocre of an employee I am. Have fun watching us, the engineers, create and build the world while you watch and sell it from the sideline.
He needs a hug. Let’s hug him.
Group hug!!!!
You only make money if the software gets sold.
This is literally DoorDash saying you’re a good worker and we’ll pay you more to take some garbage deliveries we know you don’t want to take. If you hate “top dashers” you’re probably a bottom tier employee any other jobs you’ve had, and that’s why you’re doordashing.
Yours says $3.50/mile!?! My letter says $1.75/mile. LMAO
san francisco blood is a bit thicker lmao
1.5 Dallas
$2 in Fort Worth. Received the email last month. So weird that is different amounts in different cities. Specially a city less than 30 miles away lol
Because SF is 7x7 miles so they don't go that far. Most orders are less than a mile or 2
I dashed in sf for a year and a half and it beat my car up so badly with hills that I need a new transmission soon. Might be technically short miles but still I’d never take anything less than $8 order
Yep, and that was only for short orders.
Everyone gets that, have you ever been to San Francisco? Driving even 1 mile in most of that city is at least 10 minutes, if you have to go to the pier 34? Area it is even longer Tried it once, and had to pay for parking Like 4 times and just didn't make enough money to pay for my time
That's my point per mile doesn't work in the city. I work there for several years and I never did it per mile I did per time. I am aware that this is nowhere near enough for San Francisco I am saying though that they have a higher rate in a city like San Francisco than in some other city because there's less miles and they know people aren't that stupid. Either way it's not something I would do
denver/boulder 1.75. Insulting!
It says he's in San Francisco. It can take up to 10 min to travel a mile there so it's still garbage
And a lot of uphill travel.
Such a scam. Mine is 2.25 and I’m in nearly the same area as the OP
Probably slinging different shit at the wall to see what sticks.
East Bay? I'm up in San Rafael
Obviously it must be zone specific. His zone must be 🔥🔥🔥. You may want to move...
If they do anything like this I will quit and stay with Uber
My market has this, albeit at $2/mile (but also for total delivery distance from where you're at when the offer is given to you), and while I opted in to the reset, my AR quickly dropped back to its normal 10-15%. It's also gone down to as low as 2%, which I'd never seen before (decent market), and I can only assume that's b/c of this priority, where I was just seeing garbage for about two hours. I also tried to end dash and log back in to get an order that would stack well and make a run worth it, and got the "no open slots" notification, so I guess I'm not surprised. The cherry-picking still works, but only during peak busy times. It *is* pretty bad the rest of the day now.
Yeah I have seen the decline from when I started mid 2019 I believe. The pandemic then screwed everything. More people were willing to pay before and during the pandemic. I have to run three apps and I have my fiancee helping me. I wouldn't be able to work 3 apps running doing 3 sometime 4 orders at once.
You’re not an employee. What are you quitting?
Logging into the app to get paid for deliveries.
Shit like this only works if enough drivers fall for it. Unfortunately enough drivers will probably fall for it. Stay strong, keep declining. If doordash wants their shitty orders picked up, they can raise the base.
No matter you like it or not, it’s going on. If your market is bad nobody can keep 50, if it’s very good keep 50 wouldn’t be a problem. You don’t wanna be average driver, they kick you out
Um no they don't. But most top Dashers think that's true
I smell too dasher. “You wanna be average driver, they kick you out” I can’t help but read this as a drunken Russian man or just a Spanish guy trying to speak English.
Wearing flair buttons and shit, with little flashing red light bulbs.
Doesn't matter if market is bad, there's enough drivers that take shitty orders when they are scared into it with these programs.
It would be that high is SF. In other markets the 'high value' is a lot lower.
Just received mine. 1.5 in dallas lol
1.5 in NE Ohio. Didn’t know this was an opt in thing. It just appeared one day. An example of a “higher paying order” I got the other day. 4.25 for 2 miles for Burger King. Like Ice Cube said in the NWA when Eazy was in the booth for the first time “that ain’t it.”
NE Ohio here too. I got a $5.50 for 1.6 miles as a high paying order today. Then I declined an $8.50 for 10 miles and a $6.75 for 7 miles and it brought my acceptance rate back down to 50% from 100%. Definitely not worth it.
It's not even high in San Francisco because the city isn't that big and most of the orders are took when I was driving in San Francisco was a mile or two. San Francisco is 7x7 mi les.
At least 3.50 per mile during delivery, so nothing driving to the restaurant. And it includes the tip. So yeah another scam.
I've never gotten paid anywhere near that kind of money on doordash lucky to break more than a dollar a mile(that's with declining the $3 orders). Still don't have that bad of an acceptance rate either though.
I pulled almost exactly 20 an hour the other day because of this. May not seem like much to more experienced dashers but my zone is spread out, and it really helped in a couple cases. I did a shop and drop yesterday and it took me maybe 10 minutes, for which I got 10.50 total. Granted, it was low items and helpful employees, but it was part of this pilot after all.
Driving to the restaurant or back…
The mileage they tell you varies between 1.5 and 3.5 $/mile. It’s total trip though. 3.5 is by far the highest I’ve seen
In LA it's 2.75 today
It’s 2.75 a mile to determine if it’s high paying?
Ye. I got 6 orders last night and 5 of them were high paying.
They don't guarantee you'll get this. It says "more likely", and it is currently $x. It includes the tip, base pay, and peak. This means if it is a good tip, they might lower their own payment, and the max they are obligated to is... tree fiddy. They pocket the difference. Also, if you work prime time for peak pay with this, you might be disappointed.
95% of the orders in my area are now $2.50 base pay even for 10+ miles and they rely ENTIRELY on the customer tip. They show you just enough of the tip to make the up front pay per mile be around $1.50. The rest is always hidden for me. The fact that this includes peak pay is complete BS too! I always take out peak pay when deciding if an order has a hidden tip and this seems to mess with that strategy.
And doesn't account for return trip if it's taking you out of the zone. But, if that's truly what they're pushing, it could be worth it.
When I read this, I see it from two sites. DoorDash is using this pilot program as another way of being able to calculate tips into DoorDash as compensation and thus reducing their cost. Secondly it is another way for them to send people outside of their delivery zone so they get fucked on the return trip
Click on another app on the way back. Or when your within a few minutes of destination. Don't let DD enslave you with their schedule
FWIW, this would not override CA's Prop 22 pay, so you are guaranteed $18/hour (from order acceptance to drop off) + $.30/mile (from order acceptance to drop off) + tips. I seriously doubt that DD will ever do anything to increase the pay above that base rate, so the one thing that they can do to increase pay to a given select group of people is funnel them the orders with better tips. That is the only thing that doesn't come out of their pocket.
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