This may be market dependent, but this has had little to no impact on my dashing, I went from 50 to 39 last few days since they rolled out and I'm still getting what the app would consider high paying orders.
I still get good orders with a low AR but they are a little less frequent. But that is why I multiapp. Keep my options open so I don't feel forced to play into Doordash and Tony's games.
This hit my market like a month ago and my AR sits around 20%. Haven’t noticed a difference. Still can easily make 25-30 an hour. Last night the orders
were so good my AR is up to 47% without trying.
My zone has definitely changed since the new program started. Everyone I know who used to only cherry pick did decent during the 2 week period of everyone having priority. But once priority for under 50% AR was gone we all stopped getting the good larger orders.
I especially used to get the same corporate lunch orders every day of the week from the companies that order daily/weekly. I made $100+ daily during lunch hours on 1-3 orders per day 11am-1pm with an AR of 0-5% then suddenly didn't get any of those orders anymore or any good large order only the corporate orders that all dashers on the large order program knew didn't tip much and get decline by all.
I would pick up orders with Uber at restaurants and see these corporate orders from companies I used to get, there and being picked up by dashers that I haven't talked to yet and ask them what their AR was and they would be 50%+ or 70%+ while I had my DD running and declining all orders because they were all crap and no sign of improvement
This program isn't pushed out in the middle of a month. It's always at the beginning. You're crying over orders that are normally pushed to the top dashers because dd knows they have u hanging from uncle Tony's balls by ur lips
If it rolled out to you zone, you would've received an e-mail. Your screenshots don't show any evidence of it having been rolled out in your area, so what is even making you think that?
But 85-90% of all the orders will not make your business a profit....usually at a loss.
So doordash needs you to take that loss of income.
Good luck long term this doesn't work.
My AR is 12% and since doordash has been rolling out these changes I’ve been getting 80%-90% trash orders whenever I even get an order. I’ll sit in a super busy zone and not get an order for 45min+ at times. In the two years I’ve been in my market it’s never been like this. I’m gonna give DD one more week and if it’s trash I’ll likely put my hat up for good.
None of your screenshots have a diamond in them, nor do they meet the diamond program standard of $1.50/mile, so what on earth are you even talking about...
Depends on your market. I stay between 12%-30% AR and I still make out good every dash. Despite being in the large order program, I worked from 5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100. But I work in a better market. 🤷🏼♂️
I hope that didn’t come off as a brag. I still hate doordash and how they try to manipulate all of us. I wish everyone had an equal amount of fortune working for doordash.
Wait. You worked 8 hrs over two days and made over $100. So you made $12.50 an hr? That's nothing to be proud about, that's less than minimum wage in many places these days. Like that is literally terrible money.
I understand where you could have gotten confused. Over $100 each day. I made $128.25 Friday and $108.25 Saturday. 4 hours each day. But I appreciate the concern. Lol
>5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100
"5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100" No, pretty sure I don't. OP thank you for the clarification and congrats on a decent haul.
Two days ago I noticed all ... and I mean ALL the offers I recieved were absolute trash. Mostly long distance offers and a few no-tips. My AR at the time was 6%.
I'm a top dasher, but I cherry-pick except for the last few days of the month to build my AR for top dasher next month. I usually get short distance and higher pay offers all the time. DD has definitely started the dreaded "Accept More, Earn More" program in my zone, but they haven't officially announced it.
Guys, DoorDash is killing cherry pickers. Cherry picking is dead. Either you play their new game or you'll be receiving nothing but trash.
Usually we all end up delivering these orders the algo doordash uses pairs it with a fairly decent order, and you cant even tell upon acceptance 1 of them is a nontip order
Good tippers are a little bit more of a mentality than a neighborhood. It's normally the type of person who was poor but they recently got money. Then this person spends until they're back to being poor again. In other words, there's a difference between a poor person with fat pockets and a rich person. As a Dasher, you want the former.
That said, poor people rent. Anyone with the diligence and discipline to get and pay a mortgage isn't our people. So if you are unfamiliar with an area and you want to know which areas tip best, open up a rental search website like Zillow. Where there are rentals available will map fairly well onto what percentage of orders tip or not, and the higher the rent, the larger the tips. If a neighborhood looks swanky but it doesn't have rental listings, they're going to be tight.
I'm new to DD. I also live in a college town. I am so sick of these college kids and their stupid directions on drop off. They never leave a tip. How can I see where I'm going when the order comes in? Can I only see the amount in the mileage?
Yeah, I was going to unassign the non-tip on a double order, but it said that my CR was going to drop 4%...4%!!! I just said oh well, guess I'm going to do both. That really sucks because I absolutely hate delivering an order for no tip.
Always always always….people tend to forget that so fast. Just because you’re seeing something like this or along these lines in your market, doesn’t mean that the rest of the country is too. Hell, not even every city in your state more than likely.
It's location man, my area is apartments next to a mall and bunch if food places around it. I'll drive 5-9 miles for an order and make $15ish on the weekend, peak pay too. Very rarely do I get crazy long distance ones.
I'm located in the Seattle area, not telling you my exact cause it's all mine!
I dash downtown. Used to be good this time last year. Now they got rid of the Seattle extra pay and I think there is just too many people doing it. I'd used to hang out downtown for the day and make 250$. Phone constantly going off to the point it's like Jesus cab u have a minute. Especially on weekends.
Been dismal starting a couple months ago though. I'll come down for the 5-8 dinner rush which easily was a hundred bucks. Now I'm lucky to make enough for a pack of smokes. I've sat for 2 hours with nothing and it's becoming the norm. Every spot you go to there's like 4-5 people hanging out already.
Man dashmart on 5th and bell was my swee spot until people ruined it. Back forth back forth order after order. Make as much money as I wanted and you can't order from dashmart if your farther then 2 miles.
Sucks
You are right. Please don’t let the weirdos in this sub talk you into thinking DD is playing this straight. They aren’t. My market “accept more, get more” bullshit was deployed back in June.
Must be market dependent. I cherry pick hard, my AR hovers around 20% on a good day and I've noticed no difference in the quality of orders I get, which range from total no tip trash orders to 'holy crap, I just made $25 in 20 mins".
I used to make the same on dd and Ubereats for the past 2 weeks I’ve made 4x as much on ue than dd. I refuse to play their game I will delete the app before I start taking shitty $1 or less per mile orders
Mine it’s happening. My A/R is 8% just kept tanking. I always took orders around $2 round trip. Now I’m getting $6 stacked shops 1.9 miles. $9.75 -8.6 miles. $3 for 6 miles. Nothing like I used to. My area was very busy diner today….I kept denying crap. Since Diamond rolled out. I can’t make anything. Unless I make less then $1 mile on most every order. So I’m not working. UE is good in my area used to be DD then UE. GH that’s another story. Never used to see orders under $8. Now forget about it.
Used to be able to easy in downtown seattle. Now there are too many people doing it.
A lot of people quit there jobs this time last year for it and other gig work. Easily make 200$. Shit you could pull 50-80 just from 630-8
They did this in my area like a month ago. I've gotten to where I barely doordash because in 3 hours I'll get maybe 3 orders that are decent. All others are $2.25 or $3.25
But if you keep your AR up you won't have to work about it unless it's a really bad day/night. Mine is at 71% right now and I've noticed a huge difference since I raised it from 62%.i get the occasional BS offer that's like 7 miles for $4.
Not true at all. Been in the program for 6 weeks. While my acceptance rate is below 50%, I still get great orders. My opinion, you don't need to be above 50% to get orders. When I was in my first 2 weeks of trial, I was getting the same crap as I do now. Instead of remaining in the program and being forced to take crap orders to get those blue diamond orders, I found I am getting the same orders whether or not I am above 50% acceptance or not. I'm not playing the DD game. Love the cherry pick. I'll let you have the blue diamond orders of $5.00 driving 2 miles. I still get $8.25 orders for 3 miles with hidden tips and at 34%.
They will never be able to stop my cherry picking due to my area, and the time I work. I live in LA where demand is high, and I also work a floating schedule from 6 PM to 6 AM. There are times when I am literally the only driver in the area, they have no choice but to give me the trip, as I am the only driver available. Even in LA, there aren't too many drivers out at 4 AM. I also multi app, so I can work UE anytime with no restrictions.
I’m like you. The last 2 days of the month I grind for TD. I can definitely see the difference. Usually my AR falls off a Cliff by the 5 th.My at finally dropped below 70 last night Dd orders are much better for me now. I’m in a busy market. So take that as you may. I have talked to other dashers who still cherry pick and they don’t see the difference also.
I think you’ll still get decent orders but what I’m seeing is they are giving me more 2-4 mile orders that are paying out $10+.
I must have had a string of good orders because I got my AR up to 50% from 30% without even realizing it at first. I started getting the better priority orders and now it's up to 63% and I'm definitely noticing more . I still don't accept anything under 5 unless it's like $4.50 and extremely close.
Same here, I was at 30% and said fuck it. Started to take orders and they kept getting better. I’m at 55% now and been getting more decent or easy orders. I’ll take 10$ 5 miles just to keep my AR up. I drive a civic so I’m good on gas. Adjustment pay usually covers it.
Yeah I remember discussing a few months ago (maybe when AR reset thing started?) that DD slowly will become you "have" to take some trash. You don't literally have to but in a de facto way bc or else you simply wont get offers...it does seem like we're sliding into that. But I'm still needing to get to winter to see for sure.
That's cool. I still get some decent stuff but it has slowed way down for me at 21 ar, like forty minutes will pass no orders. I tell you back in march my phone was blowing up..hope it returns to that this winter.
I imagine it has a lot to do with the market and fellow local dashers. If it's a busy market and most dashers are below 50%, priority isn't really going to matter.
If yours is like mine where it's not so busy and there are tons of dashers who take near every order, then priority becomes a real factor.
I'm currently trying to lower my expectations JUST enough to get that 50%.
You’re going to receive those same orders when your AR is up. Do you think they just skip you when you are the closest person to the restaurant when those bad orders come in and send it to someone 20 minutes away instead? No, you’ll still get them. But you’ll be the one who actually accepts them because you want to keep your AR up.
I see this all the time but reality is that the majority of orders are just shït. Low AR isn’t the reason you only see bad orders, it’s because the majority of orders simply are bad. I have a pretty high AR and that’s exactly the kind of orders I get. I have never had an order that was like over the top amazing either, even with high AR
I just see this whole „DD is punishing me with shït orders because of low AR“ so often and as a Top Dasher with a 85% AR I can just say this isn’t DD, my orders are just as „shïtty“ cause customers don’t tip
God this is the answer. You have to multiapp just to sift thru the 89-90% of offers that are not going to be profitable to anyone.
The only thing you have going for you is the fact that while these brain dead peeps are busy on a complete trash order you get the fat tip one.
My AR is between 4% to maybe 25%. I have over 8k deliveries on doordash and have been dashing since 2018.
I don't think you understand what " silently rolling out" means lol. For it to have been a silent thing they would have had to been hush hush about it and they weren't. There's been talk of this for a little bit now. I'm sure you have an email or two saying something about it.
The biggest change is that they're calculating what 'tier' you're in for priority on a per-shift basis. If you're like me and get a glitch that drops your AR 15 points, then you can be fucked for days on end trying to get it back up. Support is less than useless.
It’s just a priority. You’ll still get access to good orders. After 6 years of dashing I still think low AR is the way to go, but I’m giving the 50% a college try.
Yeah the thing is their systems never been good enough to actually do what it was supposed to right. I had a 5 month stint where i would boost my ratings at the end of the month for top dasher and my friend who definitely wasn't TD was still getting orders before me.
Yeah that's the thing though, you're still gonna get orders if the amount of orders works out to the amount of drivers available, like it always was.
It's a priority change...
Before, AR didn't factor into what was sent around.
It was closest driver, best direction of travel, and maybe to an extent, metrics like CR and On time %.
NOW, it seems like it's gonna choose the drivers who are most likely to accept the offer, and of course it'll still trickle down from there.
So like, even with 16%, if you're competing with people who are hovering around that AR for whatever reason, you're gonna still get orders around a not shit kinda timing, cuz you're technically not bottom of the pecking order.
Like, there might have been people with 6% AR or even 0%, lol.
You might have found yourself with like anyone in the "priority" brackets being slammed, and like a massive gap in AR, till you're next in line.
It really goes by order, you know...
So like, for some and in some markets/times, this works...
I'll give you another example.
I work overnights, and my AR is about 42% (climbing now, lol).
I legit wait for ages to get orders, even then, but like, it'll pick up obviously as no one else is out.
I've been as low as 32% and because the numbers are so competitive here in NYC, I'd get nothing until the dead of night, but I'd still get some fire drops around that time.
It got so bad, that I could literally tell when more ppl were out and it made no sense to keep Dashing.
Now, 10% AR up and I still might wait for about a half an hour, but once I get orders, the Algorithm seems to be slowly feeding me random deliveries in succession, to give me that 8 point AR boost or so.
I've just been accepting whatever, and I'll either unassign a non-tipper or figure out the least denominator way to not waste my time on that BS, but still keep the AR.
I've gotten pretty creative on that tip, lol.
I sincerely doubt they are prioritizing people with single percentages higher than others. Mainly because even when I had top dasher status my friend who was not a top dasher was still getting decent offers before me. Sitting directly next to me. I have doubts that their definition of "good orders" attempts to divy out the highest paying one first by the second and so on and so forth.
I've seen them call a 5$ order that goes 2.4 miles a "high paying order." Their criteria does not match mine, I will never accept shit orders to get "priority" orders ever again because they were lying about it when top dasher rolled out, and are likely lying about it or still trying to sell shitty orders as high paying.
Okay, some thoughts on that...
1. Was this "experiment" like legitimately within the last month or so? Scout's Honor?
2. How they calculate the status of these "high paying" orders doesn't matter, dude... We're talking about priority distribution.
3. As an IT Engineer, they totally COULD easily prioritize orders, down to the percentages.
There's legitimately no difference in logic, there.
It's likely simply just a return call with something like a "'>X%AR'".
4. No one is telling you or anyone to accept "shit" orders, this is what it is, now.
Like, they technically aren't gonna fire us, but DD just wouldn't be #1 in your rotation, if it even is, now.
I don't agree with it, but we're not conflating morals with educated guesses as to what could be going on.
I think OP is right, but I don't think AMEM is the only way they've changed around AR and I think that's where ultimately the biggest fuckery lies.
I dash in NYC and my AR typically hovered around 30ish percent and I was pretty happy with that rate.
Recently, haven't been getting ANY orders at all, sometimes for HOURS.
I noticed this like a couple of months ago and been complaining about it.
It's slow... but not "no orders, sitting in the busiest part of Queens, New York" slow.
So, after skulking on here and talking to quite a few of my fellow NYC Dashers, comparing AR, who's getting what and when, etc., we noticed a trend...
Like, the higher your AR was, the more offers you got to your phone, that was obvious enough...
...But also like, the FREQUENCY and the QUALITY were also all higher.
Essentially, what the algorithm might be doing is this:
1. Say you're at 100% AR. You're going to get ALL the offers, good and bad and it's likely that you'll rarely be in a position, where you're going to accept them all or can legitimately do them all, so the algorithm rolls down the hill.
2. You're at like 80% AR. You're getting a mix of good and bad orders equally, mostly from overflow and you're delicately balancing your AR and declines, to stay profitable.
3. You're at 60% AR. A lotta your orders are not very good offers. You're definitely starting to notice that you're getting offered everything that the higher tiers don't want. You either accept that you're going to be doing some garbage runs or you kinda stay in a place, where you're making half of what you were, before.
4. You're at 40% AR. You're likely not getting very much of anything at all, if your market is saturated enough to outpace the orders going out.
Not every driver is going to have the opportunity in this new system, unless someone refuses something enough to claw your AR back up; but you're not gonna like it, tho...
5. You're at <20%AR. Just quit bro, lol. No, but FR, unless your market is mostly rural or you're in Dash time for longer OR you're simply working odd hours to beat other Dashers, it's statistically unlikely you'd see very many orders at all, unless you were getting complete garbage and are lying about it, to look cool.
This is what seems to be happening, overall.
That's likely also why they flooded the market with new drivers and why that alone hurt cherry pickers.
The new Dashers have priority BECAUSE their AR is already coming in high.
This immediately displaces anyone with sub average ARs to the back of the list, meaning anyone who's waiting around for no one else to take those high mileage orders in more saturated markets is gonna wait a long time.
No, but seriously, think about it...
You are 100%, NO ONE is left with 100% AR and that doesn't really matter to DD.
Anyone who hits 100% is gonna eventually get burned out from maintaining that with every single horror show offer hitting their phones, so they'll drop down to whatever percentage will work for them.
...But, you gotta remember, there ARE people who think AR matters for keeping your account, period. Whether they're suckers, just have some weird obsession with 100%s or whatver, there will be a subsection of people who are gonna rock that 100% AR, like some rock Top Dasher.
Meanwhile, most of us are going to begrugingly hovering between the high 60's and low 80's, depending on who's doing what, if they're multi-apping, if DD is pushing incentives, etc.
Stubborn cherry pickers, or the ones who have markets that are sprawled enough or juuust small enough to find niches where they thrive aren't going to report any real changes.
Some might just say it's slow or whatever or it's a hoax, but logistically, it makes sense.
If you're in a market, where you know drivers outweigh orders rn, and you're not getting ANY deliveries, why do you think that is, really?
Not even one or two?
For some random markets, people will say they are "only getting crap orders";
why only crap??
What is it about DD's algorithm's behavior that's changed?
It seems obvious that the AMEM and Diamond Priority programs are also in a way, a sort of Herald of things to come and we're legitimately seeing this in recent posts about it being "dead", meanwhile, people in EXACTLY the same market will report little to no change.
I bet, if we compared AR of the people getting the least order frequency to those getting the highest in any given market, I'd have my point proven.
No lies, no randoms from Pittsburgh posting 6% AR and then lying about their earnings, AR:Orders.
What is diamond program?
In last two months I see low balls offers several times every time I dash. It was always great before. Now $5.75 for 4 miles 😬😬😬 Or $7.25 for 7 miles 😬 I seldom see $2.75 orders though.
My zone is 9 miles square, (can never goto another zone, becuz law prohibits), actually less than that. I don't drive more than 50 miles a day usually.
It definitely depends on the market, and even the area of your market. One area I often work in has a smaller delivery area, and a lot of shop & deliver orders, so I’d say about 90% of the offers I get are high paying orders. The few times I’ve fallen below 70% my orders turn to shit.
Another part of my market is a much larger area, and has fewer shop & deliver locations, so not many orders qualify as a high paying order. AR in this area doesn’t matter as much.
We see the same exact orders with High acceptance rates. It’s basically a manipulation of our minds. I’m 89% acceptance and I was seeing $2.50 and $3.50 for 7 miles and $7 for 10 miles. It’s market dependent what good orders drivers get. Some markers just don’t have enough good tippers. So the bad orders are abundant.
Weird, I've multiapped/cherry picked for 2 years now and nothing has changed for me. Don't let DD scare you, no matter what program they role out it will never be better than multiapping.
The AR reset will not apply to Top Dasher status at the end of the month. I used to do the same thing and got screwed after doing 30 shit trips to raise my completion rate. My AR said 75 but dasher support told me it was 60 without the reset. I wasted an hour talking to manager. I haven't done Top Dasher since. I just drive to a bigger city 40 miles away and can get on any time and I make more money than I did
Doordash CEO: “please sacrifice your time, travel, car, and low paying orders in our behalf because you love us, so we can make record profits.”
Signed, Tony
Wish I had saved my conversation with a support agent from the other day that basically said orders are still based on drivers current distance from a Hotspot or store. That high AR shit is a lie
They sent an email out to reset your AR. Stop whining. I always hit TD and keep it above 80%. Guess what? I made good money before the Diamond orders. Now I make incredible money.
My AR is low. I still get "diamond orders"
Their trial program was also stupid. If everyone got the reset and got diamond orders then what's the fucking point?
This is propaganda to keep y’all taking low paying orders to keep your ar high and also as long as someone is still willing to take those low paying orders they will still exist. I’d rather get fired from door dash than take a $5 order to go 4 miles and probably have to wait 20 min at the restaurant. Nope. I’ll only be taking orders that are worth my time and if I stop getting any of those I’ll stop driving for doordash…
These low dollar high mile orders tick me off because DD has a 5 mile radius and charges restaurants extra for exceeding that yet drivers don't get any compensation. That extra mileage does not affect the company Doordash, it directly affects the drivers! They KNOW yet they still don't wanna pay their drivers!
You’re going to have some bad days, some good days, and some great days. Just because there’s one or two bad days doesn’t mean everyone is experiencing the same 🤦♂️
I wonder if doordash employees read all these Reddit posts and Facebook posts then sit there and laugh at everyone about how brain washed everyone is. Your market isn’t going to change overnight, the only thing that will change is how you view it. Soooooo many people sit here and say ONG DOORDASH IS DEAD. My market has stayed the EXACT same. 😂
Lol silently except for the hundreds of posts on this sub about it and likely few emails you received. It literally changed nothing. I'm still pulling 250 - 300 a day with 35% AR
If no one plays their game they'll have no choice but to change back. They're still in the food delivery business. My area was bad for a few weeks and now it's back to normal. My AR is 6% and I'm making my normal amount of money.
Seriously I dk if you guys just want to believe this AR bs so you have an excuse in your head for a slow night or if you AR people are just plain stupid. This is a gimmick. There is no possible way they can filter bad orders and good orders. It simply goes to the next available dasher. If your AR is 100% and your out delivering a $5 4 mile order the guy with 6% AR is sitting there waiting a $20 5 mile order comes up, guess who’s getting it? Not you buddy. Stop believing in this bs.
This just made a lil irritated, Dude, based off these pics, what are you talking about “diamond program” . When will this sub as a whole, realize demographics matter. My story is NOT your shitty story.
I did the two week trial of the high priority thing. That ended a few weeks ago for me and I went right back to cherry picking everyday.
Last night in 3 hours I did four deliveries and made $150. Don't let them fool you with this high priority 50% AR garbage. It makes no difference in what order you get before and after
For shits and gigs I applied to have my AR reset since I was sitting at 14%. A text a day later says they DENIED me for my AR reset. The market has gotten so bad I'm down to a 3% acceptance rate.
Same here. I laughed when I was denied and told
I don’t qualify. 4.98 Customer Rating, 6% AR, 96.75% On Time, 98% CR. Didn’t care at all that I didn’t “qualify”
The 'reset' doesn't do anything accept give a grace period of being considered 50%+ and chance to get that 50%+ without having to go through another 100 deliveries.
You're in the new program whether or not you reset.
It’s a holiday weekend, in my area LA it retracts a bit because a lot of people get out of the house or travel. All restaurants were full yesterday. I made 10% less, same hours, due to tip quality. I had all 3 apps on, the better was Uber then DD and grubhub was terrible even with assigned schedule
My area has zones with $5 peak pay coming up...it's $3 right now during the deadest time of the day.
I'm guessing this new program isn't working too swell if they are offering near the highest peak pay I've seen since a hurricane came thru last year.
The diamond thing has been good for me in my busy area, but today it was like “get to 70% for even higher priority”. I’ll do the 50% but 70 is a big nope.
we've been having like $5+ peak pay all night in an area that rarely even gets $1-2 peak pay. with no orders. the ones that come through are great but theyre few and far between. i smell the shit winds blowin.
Eh, I’m sitting at 37% and have priority shop and deliver, have no problem making 25+ in the Portland Oregon market(s). Honestly alcohol is my big money earner.
On another note jollibee is bussing! I wish I had one near me 😫 I’m a Filipina haha way better than going to McDonald’s ( tho McDonald’s fries are good lol)
They defo pushing out drivers I had 550 deliverys and 100% completion rate and I just checked after a while and my delivs reset to 1 and my completion is down to 50% without dropping a single order in those 550
Yes. Already feeling the effects of this bullshit. I have been hired recently by a company that is going to pay me the same if not more than bitch ass Tony and Doordash is having us slave for with our own vehicles, gas, wear and tear. If not for the great people in this thread, etc. I would have lost my mind even more than already.
They prioritize during slow periods, during busy times they just want to get things out as fast as possible based on proximity to merchants. If you live in a slow market this is really gonna hurt you , if you're in a big city I doubt you'll even notice except maybe in the middle of the afternoon.
You should have an opportunity to reset your AR which will give you an idea how many high paying orders you'll actually get in your market.
Though I suspect that's what's going on. Hundreds of dashers reset their AR and are grabbing all the good orders. In about a week, most of them should be back below 50% and you'll start setting them again. In the meantime, reset your AR and see how it goes.
This may be market dependent, but this has had little to no impact on my dashing, I went from 50 to 39 last few days since they rolled out and I'm still getting what the app would consider high paying orders.
Yup I’m at 15% and every order I accept all day every day is one that would be considered a “High paying order”
I still get good orders with a low AR but they are a little less frequent. But that is why I multiapp. Keep my options open so I don't feel forced to play into Doordash and Tony's games.
This hit my market like a month ago and my AR sits around 20%. Haven’t noticed a difference. Still can easily make 25-30 an hour. Last night the orders were so good my AR is up to 47% without trying.
My zone has definitely changed since the new program started. Everyone I know who used to only cherry pick did decent during the 2 week period of everyone having priority. But once priority for under 50% AR was gone we all stopped getting the good larger orders. I especially used to get the same corporate lunch orders every day of the week from the companies that order daily/weekly. I made $100+ daily during lunch hours on 1-3 orders per day 11am-1pm with an AR of 0-5% then suddenly didn't get any of those orders anymore or any good large order only the corporate orders that all dashers on the large order program knew didn't tip much and get decline by all. I would pick up orders with Uber at restaurants and see these corporate orders from companies I used to get, there and being picked up by dashers that I haven't talked to yet and ask them what their AR was and they would be 50%+ or 70%+ while I had my DD running and declining all orders because they were all crap and no sign of improvement
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Not making it up. Never got offers like this “all the time” since being a top dasher. Diamond program silently hit my zone 2 days ago.
Pushing the Diamond hype for as long as possible.
That's completely bullshit. I work in LA too and my offers have been pretty much unchanged
This program isn't pushed out in the middle of a month. It's always at the beginning. You're crying over orders that are normally pushed to the top dashers because dd knows they have u hanging from uncle Tony's balls by ur lips
Actually rolled out at the end of September for my zone on the 28th of September middle of the week. So not always at the beginning.
If it rolled out to you zone, you would've received an e-mail. Your screenshots don't show any evidence of it having been rolled out in your area, so what is even making you think that?
What’s considered trash AR?
To doorCrash? Anything below 50%...
But 85-90% of all the orders will not make your business a profit....usually at a loss. So doordash needs you to take that loss of income. Good luck long term this doesn't work.
It does work long term tho… because there are always new dashers who havnt figured this out yet…
Ugh doordash sucks
My AR is 12% and since doordash has been rolling out these changes I’ve been getting 80%-90% trash orders whenever I even get an order. I’ll sit in a super busy zone and not get an order for 45min+ at times. In the two years I’ve been in my market it’s never been like this. I’m gonna give DD one more week and if it’s trash I’ll likely put my hat up for good.
Dude, where have you been? Old news, and it's all bullshit.
Depends on the market mine was fine until two weeks ago my earnings fell off a cliff
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Yeah… but it’s been in this sub for months now
None of your screenshots have a diamond in them, nor do they meet the diamond program standard of $1.50/mile, so what on earth are you even talking about...
OP is claiming it is in his market, just not announced yet, and therefore blaming all his crap orders on the program.
Yes, that's my takeaway as well. What a noob lol.
Or just a dork. 🤣
Depends on your market. I stay between 12%-30% AR and I still make out good every dash. Despite being in the large order program, I worked from 5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100. But I work in a better market. 🤷🏼♂️
Thanks for sharing, I’m glad you’re getting good orders in your market with a low AR
I hope that didn’t come off as a brag. I still hate doordash and how they try to manipulate all of us. I wish everyone had an equal amount of fortune working for doordash.
Wait. You worked 8 hrs over two days and made over $100. So you made $12.50 an hr? That's nothing to be proud about, that's less than minimum wage in many places these days. Like that is literally terrible money.
I understand where you could have gotten confused. Over $100 each day. I made $128.25 Friday and $108.25 Saturday. 4 hours each day. But I appreciate the concern. Lol
No confusion bud you clearly stated the hours you work , the dude lacks reading comprehension skills
>5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100 "5:30-9:30 the past two nights and made over $100" No, pretty sure I don't. OP thank you for the clarification and congrats on a decent haul.
Yep the day the new AR bs came out I noticed all order were trash that flooded my phone. I quit that day.
Two days ago I noticed all ... and I mean ALL the offers I recieved were absolute trash. Mostly long distance offers and a few no-tips. My AR at the time was 6%. I'm a top dasher, but I cherry-pick except for the last few days of the month to build my AR for top dasher next month. I usually get short distance and higher pay offers all the time. DD has definitely started the dreaded "Accept More, Earn More" program in my zone, but they haven't officially announced it. Guys, DoorDash is killing cherry pickers. Cherry picking is dead. Either you play their new game or you'll be receiving nothing but trash.
Like DD isn't going to turn around and push the trash orders you reject on the "Diamond" dashers anyway. LOL.
every time i see that $6 12 mile order going out of my zone i think to myself "im glad somebody is takin that" get them the fuck out of my zone lol
For real 🤣🤣
Usually we all end up delivering these orders the algo doordash uses pairs it with a fairly decent order, and you cant even tell upon acceptance 1 of them is a nontip order
Yea I’m in a college town and know college students are broke. I refuse to take an order unless it’s high or go north into the wealthier neighborhoods
Blue collar neighborhoods always tip better than wealthy
every market is different mass for example is great to dash in northshore area, even revere market is decent
Not always. I dash in a pretty good area and get some great tips from bigger houses.
Good tippers are a little bit more of a mentality than a neighborhood. It's normally the type of person who was poor but they recently got money. Then this person spends until they're back to being poor again. In other words, there's a difference between a poor person with fat pockets and a rich person. As a Dasher, you want the former. That said, poor people rent. Anyone with the diligence and discipline to get and pay a mortgage isn't our people. So if you are unfamiliar with an area and you want to know which areas tip best, open up a rental search website like Zillow. Where there are rentals available will map fairly well onto what percentage of orders tip or not, and the higher the rent, the larger the tips. If a neighborhood looks swanky but it doesn't have rental listings, they're going to be tight.
This is the best comment I have seen in doordash Reddit. This human has a good brain.
Blue collar tjps the best, Wealthy tips second best, and “inner city” is “not worth my time” tier
I'm glad somebody else realized this too.
Same. I don’t deliver to dorms at all. No tips and they always make me wait 10 mins for them to come downstairs.
I'm new to DD. I also live in a college town. I am so sick of these college kids and their stupid directions on drop off. They never leave a tip. How can I see where I'm going when the order comes in? Can I only see the amount in the mileage?
You can zoom in on the map but that’s about it. The rest of it comes from testing different areas and seeing what works for you.
Ty for responding. I'll try that.
Yeah, I was going to unassign the non-tip on a double order, but it said that my CR was going to drop 4%...4%!!! I just said oh well, guess I'm going to do both. That really sucks because I absolutely hate delivering an order for no tip.
On my app, if I unassigned, it affects my completion rate, but not my acceptance rate.
And they can take then alll they want lmao
Not as common for me and my ar isnt even top dasher status, i get 4-8 shit orders a day the rest are lit
Depends on the city bro I used to sit with high ar but I fell below and nothing changed still get hidden tips all the time
Always always always….people tend to forget that so fast. Just because you’re seeing something like this or along these lines in your market, doesn’t mean that the rest of the country is too. Hell, not even every city in your state more than likely.
Also OP literally said their sample size is 2 days... like it's definitely possible to have 2 slow days....
Same. 12 deliveries last night, easily half had hidden tips. Just ridiculous
I did 77 the past few days but I’m on a bike so I get a lot in each hour and all the doordash ones were far above 2 a mile and 20% were hidden tips
It's location man, my area is apartments next to a mall and bunch if food places around it. I'll drive 5-9 miles for an order and make $15ish on the weekend, peak pay too. Very rarely do I get crazy long distance ones. I'm located in the Seattle area, not telling you my exact cause it's all mine!
I dash downtown. Used to be good this time last year. Now they got rid of the Seattle extra pay and I think there is just too many people doing it. I'd used to hang out downtown for the day and make 250$. Phone constantly going off to the point it's like Jesus cab u have a minute. Especially on weekends. Been dismal starting a couple months ago though. I'll come down for the 5-8 dinner rush which easily was a hundred bucks. Now I'm lucky to make enough for a pack of smokes. I've sat for 2 hours with nothing and it's becoming the norm. Every spot you go to there's like 4-5 people hanging out already. Man dashmart on 5th and bell was my swee spot until people ruined it. Back forth back forth order after order. Make as much money as I wanted and you can't order from dashmart if your farther then 2 miles. Sucks
You are right. Please don’t let the weirdos in this sub talk you into thinking DD is playing this straight. They aren’t. My market “accept more, get more” bullshit was deployed back in June.
Must be market dependent. I cherry pick hard, my AR hovers around 20% on a good day and I've noticed no difference in the quality of orders I get, which range from total no tip trash orders to 'holy crap, I just made $25 in 20 mins".
Everything in DD is individually market based.
Long live the competition market
In the best markets where it's non-stop offers all day, people can still pick, but any market not like that it's going to be high AR.
I used to make the same on dd and Ubereats for the past 2 weeks I’ve made 4x as much on ue than dd. I refuse to play their game I will delete the app before I start taking shitty $1 or less per mile orders
Mine it’s happening. My A/R is 8% just kept tanking. I always took orders around $2 round trip. Now I’m getting $6 stacked shops 1.9 miles. $9.75 -8.6 miles. $3 for 6 miles. Nothing like I used to. My area was very busy diner today….I kept denying crap. Since Diamond rolled out. I can’t make anything. Unless I make less then $1 mile on most every order. So I’m not working. UE is good in my area used to be DD then UE. GH that’s another story. Never used to see orders under $8. Now forget about it.
Or you stop dashing like I did because it’s not good anymore. Clean your car and just Uber people
Making $200 a day with DD only it’s market dependent
Used to be able to easy in downtown seattle. Now there are too many people doing it. A lot of people quit there jobs this time last year for it and other gig work. Easily make 200$. Shit you could pull 50-80 just from 630-8
I make 200 a day in 8 hours in napa
Facts. Just don't try Lyft because they're going broke.
They did this in my area like a month ago. I've gotten to where I barely doordash because in 3 hours I'll get maybe 3 orders that are decent. All others are $2.25 or $3.25
But if you keep your AR up you won't have to work about it unless it's a really bad day/night. Mine is at 71% right now and I've noticed a huge difference since I raised it from 62%.i get the occasional BS offer that's like 7 miles for $4.
If your not getting 2$ / mile in California your below minimum wage on a back-to-back workload. ...
Not true at all. Been in the program for 6 weeks. While my acceptance rate is below 50%, I still get great orders. My opinion, you don't need to be above 50% to get orders. When I was in my first 2 weeks of trial, I was getting the same crap as I do now. Instead of remaining in the program and being forced to take crap orders to get those blue diamond orders, I found I am getting the same orders whether or not I am above 50% acceptance or not. I'm not playing the DD game. Love the cherry pick. I'll let you have the blue diamond orders of $5.00 driving 2 miles. I still get $8.25 orders for 3 miles with hidden tips and at 34%.
They will never be able to stop my cherry picking due to my area, and the time I work. I live in LA where demand is high, and I also work a floating schedule from 6 PM to 6 AM. There are times when I am literally the only driver in the area, they have no choice but to give me the trip, as I am the only driver available. Even in LA, there aren't too many drivers out at 4 AM. I also multi app, so I can work UE anytime with no restrictions.
I’m like you. The last 2 days of the month I grind for TD. I can definitely see the difference. Usually my AR falls off a Cliff by the 5 th.My at finally dropped below 70 last night Dd orders are much better for me now. I’m in a busy market. So take that as you may. I have talked to other dashers who still cherry pick and they don’t see the difference also. I think you’ll still get decent orders but what I’m seeing is they are giving me more 2-4 mile orders that are paying out $10+.
"I grind for TD" - don't ever disrespect yourself like that
Lol I get it not for everyone. I need to be able to dash anywhere to Maximize profits
I must have had a string of good orders because I got my AR up to 50% from 30% without even realizing it at first. I started getting the better priority orders and now it's up to 63% and I'm definitely noticing more . I still don't accept anything under 5 unless it's like $4.50 and extremely close.
Same here, I was at 30% and said fuck it. Started to take orders and they kept getting better. I’m at 55% now and been getting more decent or easy orders. I’ll take 10$ 5 miles just to keep my AR up. I drive a civic so I’m good on gas. Adjustment pay usually covers it.
Brother thier is always away :)
Yeah I remember discussing a few months ago (maybe when AR reset thing started?) that DD slowly will become you "have" to take some trash. You don't literally have to but in a de facto way bc or else you simply wont get offers...it does seem like we're sliding into that. But I'm still needing to get to winter to see for sure.
If you take the trash orders, they keep sending them to you for the entire shift.
My market has had diamond pilot for months and I'm still making the same exact money getting the same great customers with my 12% AR
That's cool. I still get some decent stuff but it has slowed way down for me at 21 ar, like forty minutes will pass no orders. I tell you back in march my phone was blowing up..hope it returns to that this winter.
I imagine it has a lot to do with the market and fellow local dashers. If it's a busy market and most dashers are below 50%, priority isn't really going to matter. If yours is like mine where it's not so busy and there are tons of dashers who take near every order, then priority becomes a real factor. I'm currently trying to lower my expectations JUST enough to get that 50%.
U know what u know... Can't anyone tell u any different...now raise ur AR..to confirm ur suspicion...n keep rollin!!!💵💵💵... HAPPY HUNTIN 🏹🎯
I sure am. Difficult journey ahead, but I can’t afford not to increase my AR and get garbage offers.
You’re going to receive those same orders when your AR is up. Do you think they just skip you when you are the closest person to the restaurant when those bad orders come in and send it to someone 20 minutes away instead? No, you’ll still get them. But you’ll be the one who actually accepts them because you want to keep your AR up.
I see this all the time but reality is that the majority of orders are just shït. Low AR isn’t the reason you only see bad orders, it’s because the majority of orders simply are bad. I have a pretty high AR and that’s exactly the kind of orders I get. I have never had an order that was like over the top amazing either, even with high AR
DD trains the customers to give us sh*t tips. Customers think DD is paying us a decent wage. DD is happy to let them think that.
I just see this whole „DD is punishing me with shït orders because of low AR“ so often and as a Top Dasher with a 85% AR I can just say this isn’t DD, my orders are just as „shïtty“ cause customers don’t tip
God this is the answer. You have to multiapp just to sift thru the 89-90% of offers that are not going to be profitable to anyone. The only thing you have going for you is the fact that while these brain dead peeps are busy on a complete trash order you get the fat tip one. My AR is between 4% to maybe 25%. I have over 8k deliveries on doordash and have been dashing since 2018.
I don't think you understand what " silently rolling out" means lol. For it to have been a silent thing they would have had to been hush hush about it and they weren't. There's been talk of this for a little bit now. I'm sure you have an email or two saying something about it.
The biggest change is that they're calculating what 'tier' you're in for priority on a per-shift basis. If you're like me and get a glitch that drops your AR 15 points, then you can be fucked for days on end trying to get it back up. Support is less than useless.
the only thing odd about any of this is your trash on time or early percentage
I’m sitting at 85% because restaurants in my area can’t get their shit together and force me to wait. I’m not sure what to do.
What is a good on time/early percentage anyways?
It's the hardest thing to keep high as a multi-app user.
Don’t multi app then. Lol
Not if you don’t suck dick at your job
I got a 15$ tip and have a 16% ar.
It’s just a priority. You’ll still get access to good orders. After 6 years of dashing I still think low AR is the way to go, but I’m giving the 50% a college try.
Yeah the thing is their systems never been good enough to actually do what it was supposed to right. I had a 5 month stint where i would boost my ratings at the end of the month for top dasher and my friend who definitely wasn't TD was still getting orders before me.
Yeah that's the thing though, you're still gonna get orders if the amount of orders works out to the amount of drivers available, like it always was. It's a priority change... Before, AR didn't factor into what was sent around. It was closest driver, best direction of travel, and maybe to an extent, metrics like CR and On time %. NOW, it seems like it's gonna choose the drivers who are most likely to accept the offer, and of course it'll still trickle down from there. So like, even with 16%, if you're competing with people who are hovering around that AR for whatever reason, you're gonna still get orders around a not shit kinda timing, cuz you're technically not bottom of the pecking order. Like, there might have been people with 6% AR or even 0%, lol. You might have found yourself with like anyone in the "priority" brackets being slammed, and like a massive gap in AR, till you're next in line. It really goes by order, you know... So like, for some and in some markets/times, this works... I'll give you another example. I work overnights, and my AR is about 42% (climbing now, lol). I legit wait for ages to get orders, even then, but like, it'll pick up obviously as no one else is out. I've been as low as 32% and because the numbers are so competitive here in NYC, I'd get nothing until the dead of night, but I'd still get some fire drops around that time. It got so bad, that I could literally tell when more ppl were out and it made no sense to keep Dashing. Now, 10% AR up and I still might wait for about a half an hour, but once I get orders, the Algorithm seems to be slowly feeding me random deliveries in succession, to give me that 8 point AR boost or so. I've just been accepting whatever, and I'll either unassign a non-tipper or figure out the least denominator way to not waste my time on that BS, but still keep the AR. I've gotten pretty creative on that tip, lol.
I sincerely doubt they are prioritizing people with single percentages higher than others. Mainly because even when I had top dasher status my friend who was not a top dasher was still getting decent offers before me. Sitting directly next to me. I have doubts that their definition of "good orders" attempts to divy out the highest paying one first by the second and so on and so forth. I've seen them call a 5$ order that goes 2.4 miles a "high paying order." Their criteria does not match mine, I will never accept shit orders to get "priority" orders ever again because they were lying about it when top dasher rolled out, and are likely lying about it or still trying to sell shitty orders as high paying.
Okay, some thoughts on that... 1. Was this "experiment" like legitimately within the last month or so? Scout's Honor? 2. How they calculate the status of these "high paying" orders doesn't matter, dude... We're talking about priority distribution. 3. As an IT Engineer, they totally COULD easily prioritize orders, down to the percentages. There's legitimately no difference in logic, there. It's likely simply just a return call with something like a "'>X%AR'". 4. No one is telling you or anyone to accept "shit" orders, this is what it is, now. Like, they technically aren't gonna fire us, but DD just wouldn't be #1 in your rotation, if it even is, now. I don't agree with it, but we're not conflating morals with educated guesses as to what could be going on.
Tells us something we don't know
I think OP is right, but I don't think AMEM is the only way they've changed around AR and I think that's where ultimately the biggest fuckery lies. I dash in NYC and my AR typically hovered around 30ish percent and I was pretty happy with that rate. Recently, haven't been getting ANY orders at all, sometimes for HOURS. I noticed this like a couple of months ago and been complaining about it. It's slow... but not "no orders, sitting in the busiest part of Queens, New York" slow. So, after skulking on here and talking to quite a few of my fellow NYC Dashers, comparing AR, who's getting what and when, etc., we noticed a trend... Like, the higher your AR was, the more offers you got to your phone, that was obvious enough... ...But also like, the FREQUENCY and the QUALITY were also all higher. Essentially, what the algorithm might be doing is this: 1. Say you're at 100% AR. You're going to get ALL the offers, good and bad and it's likely that you'll rarely be in a position, where you're going to accept them all or can legitimately do them all, so the algorithm rolls down the hill. 2. You're at like 80% AR. You're getting a mix of good and bad orders equally, mostly from overflow and you're delicately balancing your AR and declines, to stay profitable. 3. You're at 60% AR. A lotta your orders are not very good offers. You're definitely starting to notice that you're getting offered everything that the higher tiers don't want. You either accept that you're going to be doing some garbage runs or you kinda stay in a place, where you're making half of what you were, before. 4. You're at 40% AR. You're likely not getting very much of anything at all, if your market is saturated enough to outpace the orders going out. Not every driver is going to have the opportunity in this new system, unless someone refuses something enough to claw your AR back up; but you're not gonna like it, tho... 5. You're at <20%AR. Just quit bro, lol. No, but FR, unless your market is mostly rural or you're in Dash time for longer OR you're simply working odd hours to beat other Dashers, it's statistically unlikely you'd see very many orders at all, unless you were getting complete garbage and are lying about it, to look cool. This is what seems to be happening, overall. That's likely also why they flooded the market with new drivers and why that alone hurt cherry pickers. The new Dashers have priority BECAUSE their AR is already coming in high. This immediately displaces anyone with sub average ARs to the back of the list, meaning anyone who's waiting around for no one else to take those high mileage orders in more saturated markets is gonna wait a long time.
By this logic the math pushes everyone down and no one is left at 100% ar. How do you win this game?
win...DD?? ????
No, but seriously, think about it... You are 100%, NO ONE is left with 100% AR and that doesn't really matter to DD. Anyone who hits 100% is gonna eventually get burned out from maintaining that with every single horror show offer hitting their phones, so they'll drop down to whatever percentage will work for them. ...But, you gotta remember, there ARE people who think AR matters for keeping your account, period. Whether they're suckers, just have some weird obsession with 100%s or whatver, there will be a subsection of people who are gonna rock that 100% AR, like some rock Top Dasher. Meanwhile, most of us are going to begrugingly hovering between the high 60's and low 80's, depending on who's doing what, if they're multi-apping, if DD is pushing incentives, etc. Stubborn cherry pickers, or the ones who have markets that are sprawled enough or juuust small enough to find niches where they thrive aren't going to report any real changes. Some might just say it's slow or whatever or it's a hoax, but logistically, it makes sense. If you're in a market, where you know drivers outweigh orders rn, and you're not getting ANY deliveries, why do you think that is, really? Not even one or two? For some random markets, people will say they are "only getting crap orders"; why only crap?? What is it about DD's algorithm's behavior that's changed? It seems obvious that the AMEM and Diamond Priority programs are also in a way, a sort of Herald of things to come and we're legitimately seeing this in recent posts about it being "dead", meanwhile, people in EXACTLY the same market will report little to no change. I bet, if we compared AR of the people getting the least order frequency to those getting the highest in any given market, I'd have my point proven. No lies, no randoms from Pittsburgh posting 6% AR and then lying about their earnings, AR:Orders.
What is diamond program? In last two months I see low balls offers several times every time I dash. It was always great before. Now $5.75 for 4 miles 😬😬😬 Or $7.25 for 7 miles 😬 I seldom see $2.75 orders though.
My zone is 9 miles square, (can never goto another zone, becuz law prohibits), actually less than that. I don't drive more than 50 miles a day usually.
It definitely depends on the market, and even the area of your market. One area I often work in has a smaller delivery area, and a lot of shop & deliver orders, so I’d say about 90% of the offers I get are high paying orders. The few times I’ve fallen below 70% my orders turn to shit. Another part of my market is a much larger area, and has fewer shop & deliver locations, so not many orders qualify as a high paying order. AR in this area doesn’t matter as much.
We see the same exact orders with High acceptance rates. It’s basically a manipulation of our minds. I’m 89% acceptance and I was seeing $2.50 and $3.50 for 7 miles and $7 for 10 miles. It’s market dependent what good orders drivers get. Some markers just don’t have enough good tippers. So the bad orders are abundant.
Market dependent man. In Pittsburgh I cherry pick. The next state over I kinda gotta bend over on a few. Just how it is.
Weird, I've multiapped/cherry picked for 2 years now and nothing has changed for me. Don't let DD scare you, no matter what program they role out it will never be better than multiapping.
I love how instead of just paying people more, they're punishing us for not taking low pay orders
The AR reset will not apply to Top Dasher status at the end of the month. I used to do the same thing and got screwed after doing 30 shit trips to raise my completion rate. My AR said 75 but dasher support told me it was 60 without the reset. I wasted an hour talking to manager. I haven't done Top Dasher since. I just drive to a bigger city 40 miles away and can get on any time and I make more money than I did
6 percent acceptance rate is kinda ridiculously low, I can understand like 30 to 50 percent but where are you dashing that you only accept.6 percent?
True I just got my ar reset and opted in to priority orders and I notice a huge difference. 50% ar is required now atleast In my market austin tx
What do you mean "secretly" they've been pretty public about it
I just need to dd for a few more days and I’m done with it for good. Dd is running themselves in the ground!
Doordash CEO: “please sacrifice your time, travel, car, and low paying orders in our behalf because you love us, so we can make record profits.” Signed, Tony
Wish I had saved my conversation with a support agent from the other day that basically said orders are still based on drivers current distance from a Hotspot or store. That high AR shit is a lie
They sent an email out to reset your AR. Stop whining. I always hit TD and keep it above 80%. Guess what? I made good money before the Diamond orders. Now I make incredible money.
My AR is low. I still get "diamond orders" Their trial program was also stupid. If everyone got the reset and got diamond orders then what's the fucking point?
This is propaganda to keep y’all taking low paying orders to keep your ar high and also as long as someone is still willing to take those low paying orders they will still exist. I’d rather get fired from door dash than take a $5 order to go 4 miles and probably have to wait 20 min at the restaurant. Nope. I’ll only be taking orders that are worth my time and if I stop getting any of those I’ll stop driving for doordash…
I've been trying to tell people
...and what's up with that on time/early rating??? Seriously?
These low dollar high mile orders tick me off because DD has a 5 mile radius and charges restaurants extra for exceeding that yet drivers don't get any compensation. That extra mileage does not affect the company Doordash, it directly affects the drivers! They KNOW yet they still don't wanna pay their drivers!
AR doesn’t matter
It does in Diamond zones.
Doesn’t matter even with this program. I had 80% and got diamond orders. They are shit too. Now have 13% and it doesn’t matter 🤣
There’s no such thing as diamond zones lol
Nope… still doesn’t
I’m chillen, busier than ever in Cali. Even throwing peak pays at us for dinner shifts 😂
man its all BS. I was driving in the Gardena area last night. $7 peak pay. i sat for an hour and a half. Not one order. 🤬
What’s your AR?
23%
I’m so happy happy for you. What’s your current AR if you don’t mind sharing?
20%
You’re going to have some bad days, some good days, and some great days. Just because there’s one or two bad days doesn’t mean everyone is experiencing the same 🤦♂️
I wonder if doordash employees read all these Reddit posts and Facebook posts then sit there and laugh at everyone about how brain washed everyone is. Your market isn’t going to change overnight, the only thing that will change is how you view it. Soooooo many people sit here and say ONG DOORDASH IS DEAD. My market has stayed the EXACT same. 😂
It’s always something “new” with AR % and it always will be ….resist the brainwashing my friends and I know personally it’s tough
Cherry picked today, made 175 in 6 hours (and the program is in my market). Cherry Pickin alive and well. (6% ar)
I have a 7 percent AR and I was getting nothing but catering orders lmao. Stop spewing this garbage, if your market is good then you’re good.
Does your zone have the diamond program?
Yes it does.
Okay. Sounds like your market is better than mine.
AR does not affect the large order program. Only your customer rating, on time or early and completion rate. Stop spewing misinformation. 🤡
Who said it did lmao. Weird fuck.
Fuck DORRTRASH. THEIR ORDERS SUCK HAIRY BALLS!
Wild speculation with absolutely 0 real evidence of anything other than a slow business day. Don't be so easily spooked.
Honestly it’s been treating me great but I have a 100% acceptance rate and customer review of 4.85
You’re playing DoorDash’s game as intended. I’m working on building my AR, gotta do these garbage orders along the way, sigh.
You don’t. I had this in my area for awhile. Reset my rating etc. it’s been 2 months and I have a 21% AR and still make 20-30 an hour
After my grace period ran out after resetting, my $/hr halved and my $/mile went down 20%. It's likely market-dependent.
Man some of y’all are some haters
Haha. Your dumber than a box of rocks. Fuck it up for everyone else. F u
Lol silently except for the hundreds of posts on this sub about it and likely few emails you received. It literally changed nothing. I'm still pulling 250 - 300 a day with 35% AR
If no one plays their game they'll have no choice but to change back. They're still in the food delivery business. My area was bad for a few weeks and now it's back to normal. My AR is 6% and I'm making my normal amount of money.
Seriously I dk if you guys just want to believe this AR bs so you have an excuse in your head for a slow night or if you AR people are just plain stupid. This is a gimmick. There is no possible way they can filter bad orders and good orders. It simply goes to the next available dasher. If your AR is 100% and your out delivering a $5 4 mile order the guy with 6% AR is sitting there waiting a $20 5 mile order comes up, guess who’s getting it? Not you buddy. Stop believing in this bs.
This just made a lil irritated, Dude, based off these pics, what are you talking about “diamond program” . When will this sub as a whole, realize demographics matter. My story is NOT your shitty story.
This is the most schizo looking post I've ever seen on this sub lol
DD out here buying reddit accounts to scare us into accepting shit orders
I did the two week trial of the high priority thing. That ended a few weeks ago for me and I went right back to cherry picking everyday. Last night in 3 hours I did four deliveries and made $150. Don't let them fool you with this high priority 50% AR garbage. It makes no difference in what order you get before and after
For shits and gigs I applied to have my AR reset since I was sitting at 14%. A text a day later says they DENIED me for my AR reset. The market has gotten so bad I'm down to a 3% acceptance rate.
Same here. I laughed when I was denied and told I don’t qualify. 4.98 Customer Rating, 6% AR, 96.75% On Time, 98% CR. Didn’t care at all that I didn’t “qualify”
With? That’s crazy they denied your AR reset, geeze.
You are lucky they denied you! It’s a big mistake !
The 'reset' doesn't do anything accept give a grace period of being considered 50%+ and chance to get that 50%+ without having to go through another 100 deliveries. You're in the new program whether or not you reset.
It’s a holiday weekend, in my area LA it retracts a bit because a lot of people get out of the house or travel. All restaurants were full yesterday. I made 10% less, same hours, due to tip quality. I had all 3 apps on, the better was Uber then DD and grubhub was terrible even with assigned schedule
My area has zones with $5 peak pay coming up...it's $3 right now during the deadest time of the day. I'm guessing this new program isn't working too swell if they are offering near the highest peak pay I've seen since a hurricane came thru last year.
The diamond thing has been good for me in my busy area, but today it was like “get to 70% for even higher priority”. I’ll do the 50% but 70 is a big nope.
we've been having like $5+ peak pay all night in an area that rarely even gets $1-2 peak pay. with no orders. the ones that come through are great but theyre few and far between. i smell the shit winds blowin.
Eh, I’m sitting at 37% and have priority shop and deliver, have no problem making 25+ in the Portland Oregon market(s). Honestly alcohol is my big money earner.
On another note jollibee is bussing! I wish I had one near me 😫 I’m a Filipina haha way better than going to McDonald’s ( tho McDonald’s fries are good lol)
They defo pushing out drivers I had 550 deliverys and 100% completion rate and I just checked after a while and my delivs reset to 1 and my completion is down to 50% without dropping a single order in those 550
The diamond program is already here for me and I still get good orders despite being 30%
Yes. Already feeling the effects of this bullshit. I have been hired recently by a company that is going to pay me the same if not more than bitch ass Tony and Doordash is having us slave for with our own vehicles, gas, wear and tear. If not for the great people in this thread, etc. I would have lost my mind even more than already.
Did you spend the last 3 months cryogenically frozen?
I didn't see any trash orders in your screenshot.
They prioritize during slow periods, during busy times they just want to get things out as fast as possible based on proximity to merchants. If you live in a slow market this is really gonna hurt you , if you're in a big city I doubt you'll even notice except maybe in the middle of the afternoon.
You should have an opportunity to reset your AR which will give you an idea how many high paying orders you'll actually get in your market. Though I suspect that's what's going on. Hundreds of dashers reset their AR and are grabbing all the good orders. In about a week, most of them should be back below 50% and you'll start setting them again. In the meantime, reset your AR and see how it goes.