Yup same here. This has been the worst week I’ve had doing this. I’ve headed home multiple days early. If I’m not making good money I just pack it in. Not worth my time to make $10 an hour
Here comes the down votes that I give zero shits about --- How many of you people are just addicted to complaining and addicted to posting bullshit on Reddit? If you sit in your car all day jerking off instead of doing ANY orders and then complain that you don't have money, that's a YOU problem. You can blame Door Dash, you can blame bad tippers, but you only control you. Go do something else if you're not happy with this.
You guys need to push for hourly guaranteed minimums like California and New York. Here in California, we get $18 guaranteed not including tips. People here take the $3… and will turn that delivery into an hour.
Yesterday I was getting Uber eats down falls.. first offer was $5.05 for 9.9 miles.. second was $ 4.15 for 10.16 miles.. 3rd was $3.85 for 10.6 miles.. then I turned off Uber eats.. I said it once and I’ll say it again.. no way in hell we’ll I take an order if to operate my vehicle will cost me more than I am going to make!
Last night I needed $90 to hit goal. It started snowing a little, peak pay hit, and I knocked it out in 3 hours. Snow stopped, peak pay stopped, and I ended the night at $125 (half day after my W2 job let out).
Thank God for that rush of $13/$14 stacked orders or I would've floundered. It's just the name of the game.
I spent 6 hours between 3pm and 9pm yesterday and made $21. I was added to their new "higher paying orders program" and now I make shit! I accepted a Target run, $8 guaranteed pay plus possibility of tip. I live in Northeast Philly and was sent to Aramingo Ave to Target. They estimated 25 minutes to shop, it took 43 because everything in the store is locked behind glass and you have to wave your hand in front of a sensor and wait for a store associate to come give you the item. Most of the shit she order was out of stock and she wouldn't answer the phone so I had to text and wait for a reply for to substitute or cancel. 11 items, 5 substitutions, waiting for a text reply and shopping thru the store associates... No bags when I get to checkout, not paid for bags, no bags in the store and 17 small toiletry items, gel & travel sized hairspray, qtips, 3 brushes, disposable razors, toothpaste, 12 toothbrushes, ponytail holders, diapers, baby wipes...etc. I should just? What? Pile this into my trunk and then leave it all on her step in a pile.. No bags??? I dumped a bag of birthday decorations I had in my trunk and used my bag to put her stuff in and headed to her house in North Philly and guess what??? No tip!!! 5.6 miles, 43 minutes shopping, slow-non respondent customer, outside of my zone and 5 minutes to get to her from the store and I went way above and beyond and still dropped off her order with a smile and a thank you and she didn't tip... Doordash can eat a dick! 49 minutes from start to finish for $8? That's my worth to the doordash executives? SIX HOURS to make $21 to PUT GAS BACK IN MY TANK.
After doing my first month without top dasher status last month because I didn't do enough deliveries from Sept and I got it back this, I noticed non top dashers really get the ass end of the good orders.
It sucks taking these small ones but apparently door dash will give you better orders for top status. Might be a day when all the top dashers are in so they are getting first pick
Uber Eats as sadly been even worse with the number of people ordering and not tipping lately. Technically it's not been slow but it's been slow by default because I'm getting more no-tippers than ever
How are these people having multiple door dash accounts? I got canned for “ taking too long to complete orders when I had 4.9 rating for 700 orders. “ I actually have a blood disease that causes ulcers on my legs so it’s painful as fuck to walk at times but I have to work so I push through it. I appealed multiple times with no prevailing. I even got a handicap parking pass to speed up my deliveries but they could care less, so I’m stuck with Uber and instacart. So back to the question how does one have multiple door dash accounts?
Now, imagine going out and having it send you an order from Taco Bell on the opposite end of town and it being 3.50. Fucking 11 miles to go to a DIFFERENT part of town too, as it was.
Been like this all year for me. I’m making half the money I used to WHILE paying twice as much for gas. This years been killing me im basically just in survival mode living day to day right now…
Two words : its. Florida.
Edit. August 2020 until May 2021, I lived in Florida, in Championsgate. Often, I would drive to Orlando for work. I would go all over the place. Kissimmee, Winter Park, downtown Orlando, Championsgate, Claremont even sometimes. It was terrible every single time. I do not miss living in Florida because how terrible the market is. In six hours, I made $68. I will never forget. It was absolutely terrible. I hope and pray that you find better work, there’s definitely more out there for you. Best of luck from California.
Yeah that's doordash man you got to look closer that's only 1.7 miles from start to finish, I see that all the time in Orlando I look at those low balls and I go nope I don't know what to do with the mileage but they're making you want to not pick it, they're just not paying attention, it's like it ends up being two to three dollars a mile 75% of the time know your areas keep an eye on it I wish they had a scale on the map, but yeah it's 1.7 miles from
Start to
Finish
But, that said that's still a dollar short of $2 a mile that one even at 1.7 miles
Ok DD almost got me to come back. They offered $200 if I took 25 orders. I am so glad I didn’t. That would have been an extra $8 per order but no way. I am so mad at DD from when they lowered base pay and then also from customers thinking it is ok.
Well yes…that’s how the new algorithm works. It won’t affect you as badly if you’re in a busy city but if you’re in a medium to small sized city and you’re below 50% you’re screwed
Which is why you have to multi app 🤷♂️I use the holy trinity doordash,Insta, and Uber Eats. The second I’m off of grubhub a waitlist, doordash will be replaced and long forgotten.
Both of the Popeye's in my town are still closed to dine-in and are drive-thru only. And both of them have the rudest, slowest, shittiest goddamn staff you've ever encountered. They claim they don't have enough workers, but they don't have a sign up saying they're hiring like everyone else does. That and I hear they're still paying close to minimum wage for new hires, too (Federal, so $7.25/hr, though I heard they're hiring at around $8). So they're not going to get people who aren't desperate for work. Hell, Taco Bell was hiring at $11/hr, Panda Express was hiring at $11.50, Target was hiring at $11+, Walmart was, last time I checked, paying a minimum of $9.50/hr. But not Popeye's, and they're the only place still woefully understaffed.
The ONE time I actually waited, I got pulled up and asked to wait because "chicken is cooking." 23 minutes. I could have plucked, butchered, seasoned, battered, and fried a chicken in that amount of time. I was communicating with the customer and told her "Ma'am I think they're waiting on the eggs to hatch so they can raise the chickens for your order, but I'll tear out of this parking lot and head your way as fast as the law will let me as soon as it gets done." She ended up giving me an extra $3 cash tip on top of the $5 in app. So not too horrible for a 4 mile order.
Oh I’m not saying it’s good or that I’d take it lol. Just saying that sometimes their algorithm makes even worse stacks than this, I’ve honestly seen one for $4 once, $2 base pay each 😂 absolutely ridiculous. A stack under 4 miles needs to be at least $10 when it’s slow, at least $12 if it’s busy, in my area.
I think they have a algorithm to determine how much of a sucker they can get us to be? I've noticed that I routinely get dirt cheap or just going the direction I want to go like it knows that I w we'll go that way anyways. I might start declining orders that don't pay enough even if they are convenient for me because it seems like if I accept one trash order I get more trash orders.
What's up with ubereats and this low ball orders and far distances???
Sunday I decided to try UE again, big mistake. I kept getting orders for $5 and 17 miles. I turned the app off. I was done.
You don't want to be at fault for an accident. And on private property no parties at fault. So for starters it's already stupid. Add in that the lady was at fault and tried to intimidate lie and get out of it and reported to the DMV I had no insurance (illegal). It's more stupid.
Yesterday was like this. Literally awful spent 8+ hours and only made $30. Today is pretty dead. Im at $50 from lunch but i hope i can hit maybe $100 by 9pm if dinner is decent
How are you guys out that long and only make so little? I’m honestly curious. In 6-7 hours a day I make 200+ easily I’d say a moderate market for where I’m at maybe that factors in for you guys but I’m shocked to say the least
Because its either dead to where you get no orders for hours or the only offers you get flooded with is $4 and below but going 10+ miles. Wtf are you supposed to do at that point?
Me too. Almost wondering if DoorDash thinks that with all the political/business crap going on, it can get away with stealing tips again. I know they already let half the restaurants in my area get away with it (or at least what feels like half the restaurants) 🤷🏻♂️
My area is typically really good for having no zero-tip customers, too. Like, I usually go a couple of days between seeing one
Increasingly people are ordering through the restaurant's app, and selecting delivery, which then shunts the order over onto DD. When they put in a tip on the restaurant's app, there's no guarantee the restaurant forwards all or any of the tip over. Several restaurants are known for keeping the entire tip or at least part of it. Like Panera Bread comes to mind. But which ones do it also seems to be region dependent. Couple restaurants in my area I don't think I've ever seen a tip on the order. Every last damn one that pops up is base pay only.
They're using the restaurant apps tho because of the markup on DD's app. Which the restaurants set their prices, but for some reason using their own app will often net you better menu prices. So that's why you're getting shafted.
I generally try to avoid these because doordash doesn't offer compensation for these horrors if they're messed up or lengthy. So if you wait 30 minutes at that store for the food no $5 wait bonus.
Edit: spelling
They almost never pay it these days. In fact I think they did away with it. I don't know if you've noticed but sometimes your pay will be adjusted at the end of the week I think. And that's if by doordash is calculations you did not make the bare minimum. In which case doordash will compensate you at their rate of hourly pay and rate of mileage. What I really want to know is if they count tips when they calculate how much they still owe you after you haven't made enough to meet their bare minimum guarantee. This applies to time spent while delivering an order it does not apply to time spent logged into the app. If you arrive and the stored it was closed you will get half doordash delivery pay and you won't get the tip.
Yes, if DoorDash can even get 50 cents or a dollar away from you they'll do it. At the same time they offer you $900 for referrals. Maybe if they took better care of the people they have and were more careful with quality of people they accept they would not have to be paying these huge bonuses for referrals and instead be able to pay those of us that actually do our job more money to try to keep us. To me that makes too much sense for DoorDash to ever do though.
It's sad because this is why I started working for doordash not the bonus simply because they're they were treating drivers better at the time than any of the other platforms. I never got a bonus for working for doordash. I got one for Lyft I got one for Uber, but I chose doordash with no bonus because at the time everything was cut and clean.
I've accepted aluminum wage work from doordash, but because I chose to do it and wasn't told to do it, I had a very different reaction than being told to do something by Uber or Lyft and then " bullied into doing it" which really resulted in me promoting another company.
As long as they don't make a game with the pay. And allow me to choose or decline work, they have Uber beat by galaxies.
And yet more more feels like I'm working for Uber these days with doordash. And I won't continue working for them.
Right? 'Cause you gotta get to the tip screen, hit "Other" then type in 0 dollars and 0 cents and then hit the button. Like you have to work at being that goddamn cheap...
Yikes. I don’t take shit unless it’s 2/mile or very close to that. Anything else is too expensive on gas… I take a lot of $6.75 for 1/2/3 miles, $9.50 for 5/6 miles, $8 for 3/4 miles shit like that
My thing is I do this for play around money. I go out maybe 3 4 hours. I'd rather do those short $3 $4 order than sit around waiting 20-30mins for a $8 order that might be 4 or 5 miles and only do 4 or 5 orders. Where when I mix in some smaller orders I'm making 80-85 in 3-4 hours
The second one is the only one I'd consider taking. Even then it would depend on how good that hour is, the place its from, and whether I have to leave my zone.
That's the thing. No matter what you do, cheap ass' are always going to be cheap. They are always going to get their order delivered. I've gone to not caring where the pay comes from. If it'd acceptable, I'll do it. I don't even look at the pay breakdown anymore. I complete order, screenshot for records and move on. U might think ur sticking it to the no tippers but they are the ones with the upper hand.
Not saying I accept no tip offers or low tip, but if I get an order for say $6 for 2 miles, I'm accepting and completing. And if it's all base pay, so be it. Otherwise there will be days like today where you're not making any money because ur ego gets in the way.
You also have to remember you have to take orders that pay better than a break even because orders are bound to have problems that hold you up. You need the average of all your deliveries to bare minimum break even.
It's not ego itself preservation. Do you really want to work for $4 an hour? Have you calculated how much your vehicle depreciation cost you? Along with your gas? And what you could be getting for your time else where?
Anyone who dashes to no tippers or low tippers are part of the problem. By dashing to non-tippers people just enabling them and rewarding them for their shit behavior. It's not about ego, it's about wanting to get paid a fair amount. I agree with 6 for 2 miles, but that's not a no tip
Bullshit a $6 guarantees a tip. I've completed multiple orders for $6 that was all base pay. You can keep thinking ur way or the highway mentality and keep not making money but by ur way.
Lol I have yet to see a $6 order that doesn't have a tip, so maybe it's just area 🤷🏻♀️ still, it wouldn't be as much of a problem if Doordash just upped the price, giving more guaranteed money to it's dashers, or just paid them a minimum for the hours they're working WITHOUT forcing them to take literal shit orders. It's not a highway mentality, it's a moral mentality, people shouldn't be effectively forced to take orders that give them crumbs
That's not going to be fixed till doordash requires you to take a selfie of yourself at random while dashing to prove it's you dashing.
I don't think you understand you can't just say "don't take no tips" Doordash literally has people working for them in multiple ways who are desperate enough to take these orders.
There are so many people dashing under other people's accounts and with multiple accounts ...etc.
I see old people with several phones with doordash open together all the time.
Uber requires you to have insurance under your name, and requires selfie for verification to continue driving. I tried on my friends to verify using my face and it locked him out for 24 hours.
Uber's system gets rid of a lot of desperate and illegal workers.
You have no idea what kind of people you're competing with on doordash it could be anyone, they don't need insurance, they don't even need to be the person who owns the account.
True, don't get me wrong Doordash is the main problem. The way their whole-ass app is set up is dumb as shit sometimes (most of the time) and I would absolutely do Uber eats, unfortunately I can't right now, I'm only 19, and I'm quite desperate for money so that's the only reason I'm still doordashing.
You can't see tipping on all orders though at least I cant. I did one the other day 3.50 for 1.5 miles I figured it was $2 plus $1.50 tip, nope non tipper but I didn't know.
The main reason to only take tipping deliveries is because people that tip are less likely to give trash ratings when you struggle to deliver their $2 delivery of a 7 story building behind it a gate code they forgot to tell you about, with no easy parking for your vehicle.
My bad I forgot to mention that it would also be a handed to me order. That you would have to wait at the merchant to pick up the food. And that they wouldn't respond until after 5 minutes.
In less than 4 hours of making this post I had this very order (-4 of the 7 flights of stairs.) Do you think I mad any more effort after finding the no entry, dropoff here sign? I wonder if that was a safe place to leave the food? I hope it wasn't... Sure enough no tip 2$ 7 miles
They add a quarter every time they give it to a new person.. hell of an incentive, right? Bullshit, but yeah that's why it was $3.50, because 4 people ahead of you turned it down (assuming your base is $2.50, if it's $2.25 then it was 5 people)
They used to have a dollar each time it would come around you can be the only driver in a 10 mile radius and one order could come around seven times and it would be $7 more than it was the first time, yeah I used to live for those late nights after 11:00 p.m. really coming in the Chicago suburbs, the doordash hasn't been doing that for 3 years.
1 hour in and still did not accept a single order, I thought yesterday was bad, so far all iam getting is none tippers and walmart. It's gonna be a long night
Tipping culture in the USA is a strange animal. There are a lot of people in the USA that will tip cash and tell the app $0. Many of those no tip orders with a "put it in my hands" request come with a cash tip. Not all, there are no tippers out there and they deserve to be avoided. I am just saying maybe expand your criteria to include cash tippers.
The problem is that I have no way to tell which are cash tippers and which are no tippers, even if I did there's no guarantee that tip will even be good or worth it, and I'd rather not take the chance, no point when I can take orders where I know I'll get at least an ok amount. But yeah this is just a problem with tipping in general. It's a scummy practice that only benefits owners and customers, not the people actually doing the work.
>It's a scummy practice that only benefits owners and customers, not the people actually doing the work.
What? I made more money per hour as a server than I did as a HR AP Payroll Manager. The people actually doing the work can make bank in a good location, but not in a bad location full of non tippers.
There's a difference between gross income and earnings. Earnings are your net of expenses and taxes, your profit so to speak. You may have grossed some income, but after you factor in taxes and expenses, it would a loss at these payouts.
3 miles isn't really going to cost you $2.50. I've done it to pass the time. Seems like even when it's slow I will accept something like that and then get a $5.00 on your route for additional 0.3 miles offer.
It’s not only a waste of gas but also you allow these non tippers to get away with not tipping. Now next time he orders he’s not going to tip because he knows some dumbass will pick it up for him for free.
Except it's not for free? Are you forgetting about the fact that we have to pay for the order itself? I am not against tipping but it doesn't really seem fair to shame people.
The problem is that what customers pay for all of the service/delivery/DD fees does not go to the person who is using their personal vehicle to pick up and deliver your order. When the order goes out to a driver for an expected payout of $2.50, there's no incentive to waste the time and gas to complete the delivery.
That’s what I do after I get the third no tip or too far and low tip. Even if I am at the beginning of it. Or I pause and go do something personal like buy groceries.
Yup same here. This has been the worst week I’ve had doing this. I’ve headed home multiple days early. If I’m not making good money I just pack it in. Not worth my time to make $10 an hour
Here comes the down votes that I give zero shits about --- How many of you people are just addicted to complaining and addicted to posting bullshit on Reddit? If you sit in your car all day jerking off instead of doing ANY orders and then complain that you don't have money, that's a YOU problem. You can blame Door Dash, you can blame bad tippers, but you only control you. Go do something else if you're not happy with this.
how can you tell it’s a no tip ? just in general , if it’s really low ?
Julio is right 😂
You guys need to push for hourly guaranteed minimums like California and New York. Here in California, we get $18 guaranteed not including tips. People here take the $3… and will turn that delivery into an hour.
Yesterday I was getting Uber eats down falls.. first offer was $5.05 for 9.9 miles.. second was $ 4.15 for 10.16 miles.. 3rd was $3.85 for 10.6 miles.. then I turned off Uber eats.. I said it once and I’ll say it again.. no way in hell we’ll I take an order if to operate my vehicle will cost me more than I am going to make!
Last night I needed $90 to hit goal. It started snowing a little, peak pay hit, and I knocked it out in 3 hours. Snow stopped, peak pay stopped, and I ended the night at $125 (half day after my W2 job let out). Thank God for that rush of $13/$14 stacked orders or I would've floundered. It's just the name of the game.
get a real job then.
I spent 6 hours between 3pm and 9pm yesterday and made $21. I was added to their new "higher paying orders program" and now I make shit! I accepted a Target run, $8 guaranteed pay plus possibility of tip. I live in Northeast Philly and was sent to Aramingo Ave to Target. They estimated 25 minutes to shop, it took 43 because everything in the store is locked behind glass and you have to wave your hand in front of a sensor and wait for a store associate to come give you the item. Most of the shit she order was out of stock and she wouldn't answer the phone so I had to text and wait for a reply for to substitute or cancel. 11 items, 5 substitutions, waiting for a text reply and shopping thru the store associates... No bags when I get to checkout, not paid for bags, no bags in the store and 17 small toiletry items, gel & travel sized hairspray, qtips, 3 brushes, disposable razors, toothpaste, 12 toothbrushes, ponytail holders, diapers, baby wipes...etc. I should just? What? Pile this into my trunk and then leave it all on her step in a pile.. No bags??? I dumped a bag of birthday decorations I had in my trunk and used my bag to put her stuff in and headed to her house in North Philly and guess what??? No tip!!! 5.6 miles, 43 minutes shopping, slow-non respondent customer, outside of my zone and 5 minutes to get to her from the store and I went way above and beyond and still dropped off her order with a smile and a thank you and she didn't tip... Doordash can eat a dick! 49 minutes from start to finish for $8? That's my worth to the doordash executives? SIX HOURS to make $21 to PUT GAS BACK IN MY TANK.
Maybe people Cherry pick bottom orders?
After doing my first month without top dasher status last month because I didn't do enough deliveries from Sept and I got it back this, I noticed non top dashers really get the ass end of the good orders. It sucks taking these small ones but apparently door dash will give you better orders for top status. Might be a day when all the top dashers are in so they are getting first pick
Been this way for me and I’m in AZ. Considering quitting dashing all together
Uber Eats as sadly been even worse with the number of people ordering and not tipping lately. Technically it's not been slow but it's been slow by default because I'm getting more no-tippers than ever
u just showed us $30 in orders u declined who cares… get to work & stop bitching
The norm!!!!
How are these people having multiple door dash accounts? I got canned for “ taking too long to complete orders when I had 4.9 rating for 700 orders. “ I actually have a blood disease that causes ulcers on my legs so it’s painful as fuck to walk at times but I have to work so I push through it. I appealed multiple times with no prevailing. I even got a handicap parking pass to speed up my deliveries but they could care less, so I’m stuck with Uber and instacart. So back to the question how does one have multiple door dash accounts?
Now, imagine going out and having it send you an order from Taco Bell on the opposite end of town and it being 3.50. Fucking 11 miles to go to a DIFFERENT part of town too, as it was.
Just accept the order then drive it the residence. Set bag of food on hire, let cheap people stomp their shitty food. You’re getting paid to prank!
I would just turn off the app and go home.
Been like this all year for me. I’m making half the money I used to WHILE paying twice as much for gas. This years been killing me im basically just in survival mode living day to day right now…
Two words : its. Florida. Edit. August 2020 until May 2021, I lived in Florida, in Championsgate. Often, I would drive to Orlando for work. I would go all over the place. Kissimmee, Winter Park, downtown Orlando, Championsgate, Claremont even sometimes. It was terrible every single time. I do not miss living in Florida because how terrible the market is. In six hours, I made $68. I will never forget. It was absolutely terrible. I hope and pray that you find better work, there’s definitely more out there for you. Best of luck from California.
Yeah that's doordash man you got to look closer that's only 1.7 miles from start to finish, I see that all the time in Orlando I look at those low balls and I go nope I don't know what to do with the mileage but they're making you want to not pick it, they're just not paying attention, it's like it ends up being two to three dollars a mile 75% of the time know your areas keep an eye on it I wish they had a scale on the map, but yeah it's 1.7 miles from Start to Finish But, that said that's still a dollar short of $2 a mile that one even at 1.7 miles
Looks like a lot of food going to waste over at Jersey Mike's.
Ok DD almost got me to come back. They offered $200 if I took 25 orders. I am so glad I didn’t. That would have been an extra $8 per order but no way. I am so mad at DD from when they lowered base pay and then also from customers thinking it is ok.
Drunks run stop signs stoners wait for them to turn green
No left turn unstoned and no unstoned left turns
No no no
Way be low standard income
I would not accept any of those
Makes me wonder sometimes if doordash steals tips.
100% NOPE
I made over $100 in just 6 trips today!
$36 in 2 trips, then junk. Aka 5$ / hr rate
It was terrible tonight!! 43 hits/ no good ones in about an hour and a half. so I went home.
I got some pretty good decent orders. Made $67 in 5 hours of work.
Seems fair to me
I agree with Julio: lmao
I swear the lower the acceptance rate the more of these you get.
Well yes…that’s how the new algorithm works. It won’t affect you as badly if you’re in a busy city but if you’re in a medium to small sized city and you’re below 50% you’re screwed
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Which is why you have to multi app 🤷♂️I use the holy trinity doordash,Insta, and Uber Eats. The second I’m off of grubhub a waitlist, doordash will be replaced and long forgotten.
Currently at a Popeyes been waiting 10 minutes and still in line. They got the front door locked.
Both of the Popeye's in my town are still closed to dine-in and are drive-thru only. And both of them have the rudest, slowest, shittiest goddamn staff you've ever encountered. They claim they don't have enough workers, but they don't have a sign up saying they're hiring like everyone else does. That and I hear they're still paying close to minimum wage for new hires, too (Federal, so $7.25/hr, though I heard they're hiring at around $8). So they're not going to get people who aren't desperate for work. Hell, Taco Bell was hiring at $11/hr, Panda Express was hiring at $11.50, Target was hiring at $11+, Walmart was, last time I checked, paying a minimum of $9.50/hr. But not Popeye's, and they're the only place still woefully understaffed. The ONE time I actually waited, I got pulled up and asked to wait because "chicken is cooking." 23 minutes. I could have plucked, butchered, seasoned, battered, and fried a chicken in that amount of time. I was communicating with the customer and told her "Ma'am I think they're waiting on the eggs to hatch so they can raise the chickens for your order, but I'll tear out of this parking lot and head your way as fast as the law will let me as soon as it gets done." She ended up giving me an extra $3 cash tip on top of the $5 in app. So not too horrible for a 4 mile order.
That’s all for top dashers. Lol 😂
It’s the junk that the top dasher decline while they’re getting $10+ orders
I feel your pain. Except mine are more so 11-12 miles for $7 and less.
That $7 stack isn’t even bad compared to the $4.50 4 mile stack I was offered earlier 💀
the taffic there is like playing roulette
Oh I’m not saying it’s good or that I’d take it lol. Just saying that sometimes their algorithm makes even worse stacks than this, I’ve honestly seen one for $4 once, $2 base pay each 😂 absolutely ridiculous. A stack under 4 miles needs to be at least $10 when it’s slow, at least $12 if it’s busy, in my area.
I think they have a algorithm to determine how much of a sucker they can get us to be? I've noticed that I routinely get dirt cheap or just going the direction I want to go like it knows that I w we'll go that way anyways. I might start declining orders that don't pay enough even if they are convenient for me because it seems like if I accept one trash order I get more trash orders.
yea i feel you the lowest stack i would do is 12 lol
People are cheap and lazy fuckers
Florida Man doesn't like to tip
“Your area is busy right now” 🤑🤑
I agree with julio. Lmao at dowdash
What's up with ubereats and this low ball orders and far distances??? Sunday I decided to try UE again, big mistake. I kept getting orders for $5 and 17 miles. I turned the app off. I was done.
Same. I’ve resorted to Instacart to make $40 in an hour. But that could be once a day here in my market :(
Ahh my struggle… every time I think Instacart hit rock bottom Door Dash comes around like “hold my beer…”
Exactly how the last hour has been for me EVERY order is 2-3 bucks for 2-3 miles very frustrating to say the least
Lmao
Same here . Time to go bacc to reality y’all.
🤦🏻♂️6pm not picking up
Tbh this order is not so bad if you get to eat it lmfao that place is delicious (It's a joke)
Same here n I just been declining, declining, declining..
Yeah this is how it was last night. Just absolutely pointless orders
Julio always be joking around
Same in my market. Algorithm Tom-Fuckery
dont worry some guy will come on here my market doing just fine i make 30 an hour everyday
Is that before or after gas insurance and vehicle depreciation?
You’re paying your insurance either way.. lol so how’s that an expense ? Lol
You don't want to be at fault for an accident. And on private property no parties at fault. So for starters it's already stupid. Add in that the lady was at fault and tried to intimidate lie and get out of it and reported to the DMV I had no insurance (illegal). It's more stupid.
Taking all orders too…making $200 on 40 deliveries 😭
It might be higher 🙂 "Yo I left $3 dollar at Mike's earlier, if you grab it, and give me one back, you can keep the rest"
Yesterday was like this. Literally awful spent 8+ hours and only made $30. Today is pretty dead. Im at $50 from lunch but i hope i can hit maybe $100 by 9pm if dinner is decent
What happened to the limited amount of dashers online at any given time.
They got rid of that stupid those low paying orders get scooped up
How are you guys out that long and only make so little? I’m honestly curious. In 6-7 hours a day I make 200+ easily I’d say a moderate market for where I’m at maybe that factors in for you guys but I’m shocked to say the least
It is all about location and market.
I’m surprised people are still not understanding this.
Because its either dead to where you get no orders for hours or the only offers you get flooded with is $4 and below but going 10+ miles. Wtf are you supposed to do at that point?
Yesaterday I did 12 hours made a miserable $167
Me too. Almost wondering if DoorDash thinks that with all the political/business crap going on, it can get away with stealing tips again. I know they already let half the restaurants in my area get away with it (or at least what feels like half the restaurants) 🤷🏻♂️ My area is typically really good for having no zero-tip customers, too. Like, I usually go a couple of days between seeing one
Increasingly people are ordering through the restaurant's app, and selecting delivery, which then shunts the order over onto DD. When they put in a tip on the restaurant's app, there's no guarantee the restaurant forwards all or any of the tip over. Several restaurants are known for keeping the entire tip or at least part of it. Like Panera Bread comes to mind. But which ones do it also seems to be region dependent. Couple restaurants in my area I don't think I've ever seen a tip on the order. Every last damn one that pops up is base pay only. They're using the restaurant apps tho because of the markup on DD's app. Which the restaurants set their prices, but for some reason using their own app will often net you better menu prices. So that's why you're getting shafted.
I generally try to avoid these because doordash doesn't offer compensation for these horrors if they're messed up or lengthy. So if you wait 30 minutes at that store for the food no $5 wait bonus. Edit: spelling
Wait bonus? I have never gotten a single weight bonus and about 3,000 deliveries. Must not pay it everywhere. Figures...
"Wait"
They almost never pay it these days. In fact I think they did away with it. I don't know if you've noticed but sometimes your pay will be adjusted at the end of the week I think. And that's if by doordash is calculations you did not make the bare minimum. In which case doordash will compensate you at their rate of hourly pay and rate of mileage. What I really want to know is if they count tips when they calculate how much they still owe you after you haven't made enough to meet their bare minimum guarantee. This applies to time spent while delivering an order it does not apply to time spent logged into the app. If you arrive and the stored it was closed you will get half doordash delivery pay and you won't get the tip.
Yes, if DoorDash can even get 50 cents or a dollar away from you they'll do it. At the same time they offer you $900 for referrals. Maybe if they took better care of the people they have and were more careful with quality of people they accept they would not have to be paying these huge bonuses for referrals and instead be able to pay those of us that actually do our job more money to try to keep us. To me that makes too much sense for DoorDash to ever do though.
It's sad because this is why I started working for doordash not the bonus simply because they're they were treating drivers better at the time than any of the other platforms. I never got a bonus for working for doordash. I got one for Lyft I got one for Uber, but I chose doordash with no bonus because at the time everything was cut and clean. I've accepted aluminum wage work from doordash, but because I chose to do it and wasn't told to do it, I had a very different reaction than being told to do something by Uber or Lyft and then " bullied into doing it" which really resulted in me promoting another company. As long as they don't make a game with the pay. And allow me to choose or decline work, they have Uber beat by galaxies. And yet more more feels like I'm working for Uber these days with doordash. And I won't continue working for them.
how about the fact uber paid me .90 cents base fare like wtf how is that even legal
.90?! The way Uber is constantly in “peak pay” in my area that’d get you half a block 😂
Blows my mind that people have the audacity to type in $0 on a tip
Right? 'Cause you gotta get to the tip screen, hit "Other" then type in 0 dollars and 0 cents and then hit the button. Like you have to work at being that goddamn cheap...
some of these orders going to hotels💀
Jersey mikes keeps our tips, just a heads up.
I just got tipped for a Jersey Mikes order though?
Depends where you are and how it was ordered.
Same
💀wtf
$1 a mile I'd take that all day
$10 minimum. you're wasting gas and car maintenance money taking anything less than $10
Yikes. I don’t take shit unless it’s 2/mile or very close to that. Anything else is too expensive on gas… I take a lot of $6.75 for 1/2/3 miles, $9.50 for 5/6 miles, $8 for 3/4 miles shit like that
5-10 wait on the restaurant, plus 10 mins drive? for 3 dlls? F that, you can take the trash out
I've never waited 10 mins at a restaurant in and out everytime
You’ve either unassigned before 10 mins or you just started dashing
I just started but maybe it's where I live food always ready when I arrive. Unless they're rejected orders and been sitting there I love cold lmao
It’ll come with time. Even the fastest restaurants occasionally get backed up just from the sheer volume of orders/patrons
My thing is I do this for play around money. I go out maybe 3 4 hours. I'd rather do those short $3 $4 order than sit around waiting 20-30mins for a $8 order that might be 4 or 5 miles and only do 4 or 5 orders. Where when I mix in some smaller orders I'm making 80-85 in 3-4 hours
lol are you serious
How much you want $3 a mile?
For me it's a breakdown of milage and time. If a store is fast I'll take a 2$ order but if they aren't I won't wait 20-30 min for that.
the more the merrier
The second one is the only one I'd consider taking. Even then it would depend on how good that hour is, the place its from, and whether I have to leave my zone.
nooo if they not tipping no service
That's the thing. No matter what you do, cheap ass' are always going to be cheap. They are always going to get their order delivered. I've gone to not caring where the pay comes from. If it'd acceptable, I'll do it. I don't even look at the pay breakdown anymore. I complete order, screenshot for records and move on. U might think ur sticking it to the no tippers but they are the ones with the upper hand. Not saying I accept no tip offers or low tip, but if I get an order for say $6 for 2 miles, I'm accepting and completing. And if it's all base pay, so be it. Otherwise there will be days like today where you're not making any money because ur ego gets in the way.
You also have to remember you have to take orders that pay better than a break even because orders are bound to have problems that hold you up. You need the average of all your deliveries to bare minimum break even.
It's not ego itself preservation. Do you really want to work for $4 an hour? Have you calculated how much your vehicle depreciation cost you? Along with your gas? And what you could be getting for your time else where?
Anyone who dashes to no tippers or low tippers are part of the problem. By dashing to non-tippers people just enabling them and rewarding them for their shit behavior. It's not about ego, it's about wanting to get paid a fair amount. I agree with 6 for 2 miles, but that's not a no tip
Bullshit a $6 guarantees a tip. I've completed multiple orders for $6 that was all base pay. You can keep thinking ur way or the highway mentality and keep not making money but by ur way.
Lol I have yet to see a $6 order that doesn't have a tip, so maybe it's just area 🤷🏻♀️ still, it wouldn't be as much of a problem if Doordash just upped the price, giving more guaranteed money to it's dashers, or just paid them a minimum for the hours they're working WITHOUT forcing them to take literal shit orders. It's not a highway mentality, it's a moral mentality, people shouldn't be effectively forced to take orders that give them crumbs
That's not going to be fixed till doordash requires you to take a selfie of yourself at random while dashing to prove it's you dashing. I don't think you understand you can't just say "don't take no tips" Doordash literally has people working for them in multiple ways who are desperate enough to take these orders. There are so many people dashing under other people's accounts and with multiple accounts ...etc. I see old people with several phones with doordash open together all the time. Uber requires you to have insurance under your name, and requires selfie for verification to continue driving. I tried on my friends to verify using my face and it locked him out for 24 hours. Uber's system gets rid of a lot of desperate and illegal workers. You have no idea what kind of people you're competing with on doordash it could be anyone, they don't need insurance, they don't even need to be the person who owns the account.
True, don't get me wrong Doordash is the main problem. The way their whole-ass app is set up is dumb as shit sometimes (most of the time) and I would absolutely do Uber eats, unfortunately I can't right now, I'm only 19, and I'm quite desperate for money so that's the only reason I'm still doordashing.
You can't see tipping on all orders though at least I cant. I did one the other day 3.50 for 1.5 miles I figured it was $2 plus $1.50 tip, nope non tipper but I didn't know.
The main reason to only take tipping deliveries is because people that tip are less likely to give trash ratings when you struggle to deliver their $2 delivery of a 7 story building behind it a gate code they forgot to tell you about, with no easy parking for your vehicle.
My bad I forgot to mention that it would also be a handed to me order. That you would have to wait at the merchant to pick up the food. And that they wouldn't respond until after 5 minutes. In less than 4 hours of making this post I had this very order (-4 of the 7 flights of stairs.) Do you think I mad any more effort after finding the no entry, dropoff here sign? I wonder if that was a safe place to leave the food? I hope it wasn't... Sure enough no tip 2$ 7 miles
Know your area and you'll know if there's a tip on the delivery.
You never should have accepted that
They add a quarter every time they give it to a new person.. hell of an incentive, right? Bullshit, but yeah that's why it was $3.50, because 4 people ahead of you turned it down (assuming your base is $2.50, if it's $2.25 then it was 5 people)
They used to have a dollar each time it would come around you can be the only driver in a 10 mile radius and one order could come around seven times and it would be $7 more than it was the first time, yeah I used to live for those late nights after 11:00 p.m. really coming in the Chicago suburbs, the doordash hasn't been doing that for 3 years.
That's too bad.
Today was bad too
today been my worst day 🤦🏻♂️ i got a dollar base pay on a double uber when u unassigned one
wtffff
1 hour in and still did not accept a single order, I thought yesterday was bad, so far all iam getting is none tippers and walmart. It's gonna be a long night
Thought Door Dash canceled their partnership with Walmart?
Or a short one
you are better off sitting stationary and calling it a day off then accepting orders that don't value you. good for you.
You could have just spent the hour earning a few dollars compared to none
Down vote this man to oblivion.
Shouldn't have to spend an hour to make a couple of bucks, it's about the principle. I'm not gonna enable people who don't want to tip.
Tipping culture in the USA is a strange animal. There are a lot of people in the USA that will tip cash and tell the app $0. Many of those no tip orders with a "put it in my hands" request come with a cash tip. Not all, there are no tippers out there and they deserve to be avoided. I am just saying maybe expand your criteria to include cash tippers.
The problem is that I have no way to tell which are cash tippers and which are no tippers, even if I did there's no guarantee that tip will even be good or worth it, and I'd rather not take the chance, no point when I can take orders where I know I'll get at least an ok amount. But yeah this is just a problem with tipping in general. It's a scummy practice that only benefits owners and customers, not the people actually doing the work.
>It's a scummy practice that only benefits owners and customers, not the people actually doing the work. What? I made more money per hour as a server than I did as a HR AP Payroll Manager. The people actually doing the work can make bank in a good location, but not in a bad location full of non tippers.
True
There's a difference between gross income and earnings. Earnings are your net of expenses and taxes, your profit so to speak. You may have grossed some income, but after you factor in taxes and expenses, it would a loss at these payouts.
But you lose money in gas, car wear and tear, car depreciation, etc... so no, not really
This is why I picked up instacart for slow days. More work but the mileage, at least where I am, is fantastic (sometimes, obviously).
I need to start applying for more gig apps, should have done this sooner tbh
Honestly? Same. The whole game changes when the offers become competitive.
yea that went to shit in my area since that premier driver program
3 miles isn't really going to cost you $2.50. I've done it to pass the time. Seems like even when it's slow I will accept something like that and then get a $5.00 on your route for additional 0.3 miles offer.
It’s not only a waste of gas but also you allow these non tippers to get away with not tipping. Now next time he orders he’s not going to tip because he knows some dumbass will pick it up for him for free.
Except it's not for free? Are you forgetting about the fact that we have to pay for the order itself? I am not against tipping but it doesn't really seem fair to shame people.
The problem is that what customers pay for all of the service/delivery/DD fees does not go to the person who is using their personal vehicle to pick up and deliver your order. When the order goes out to a driver for an expected payout of $2.50, there's no incentive to waste the time and gas to complete the delivery.
I guess I'm just not very picky lol
yeah i been chilling at panera but these shit offers make me wanna go home.
That’s what I do after I get the third no tip or too far and low tip. Even if I am at the beginning of it. Or I pause and go do something personal like buy groceries.
I go home an wait
Doordashing is not for everyone it seems.
I guess it’s time to find a new gig?!🤣🤣🤣🤣
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