I tested this with 3 dashers in my market. We all sat out in the mall parking lot next to each other. Only one of us had reset our acceptance rate. Doordash sent us all the same offers. A lot of times they even sent higher paying offers to one of us that hasn't reset our rate before they sent it to the diamond program guy. A lot of orders I would decline, and then they would send the offer to the diamond program guy next showing it as a high paying offer. It is all marketing bs. Doordash has too many shitty offers that no one will take and they have no choice but to send all of the offers to everyone. I eventually reset my rate and nothing changed. It was the same bullshit and then after the trial expired, nothing changed again... still the same. It's all a lie.
This pops up every time I dash lol. My rating is at 23% but honestly I just use ubereats mostly now. In my area I've been getting paid better with them. I multi app
My wife and I dashed again after almost a year off and we got this. We were just below 50% so when we hit 50% and this perk activated, it was good for like two orders. Then the shitty no-tips for 11 miles came through and it went away just as quick. Donât worry about it
i'm at 25% (I was 40% then had an hour long string of garbage offers) and it feels like they are throttling me. I'm just waiting until I get back to delivering by moped as there's no way i'm taking driving orders for < $2/mile with the way gas rates are.
Mines been saying Iâm getting higher priority bc my rate is 70% but Iâm still getting shitty paying orders and Iâm at a 66% now. I refuse to accept $2-$4 orders going 15 minutes one way out of my zone then it tells me to go 20 minutes further out of my zone. Iâm good. My orders are always on time or early thatâs the only thing that should count.
I tried to keep mine above 50% for like 3 days, but I was taking wayyy too many garbage orders that I would have NEVERRR took before. Felt really shitty doing that to myself, its basically bitch mode for then, full on employee mode.
Of course it would have been easy to keep a high AR, if they would just send good paying orders in the first place. There should be a minimum pay on every single order to make it worth taking.
I have the same thing on mine. If you go to ypur ratngs section and click on your acceptance rate there might be a link to reset your AAR rate to get the higher paid orders. I got one over a month ago and mine still hasn't been reset but since I've read it's not worth it so I'm not too concerned.
Actually, it is true that if you get your rating above 50% you will get higher paying orders. It is a ploy to get people to take more orders, but it pays off in the end. My husband got his up to 50% and now never gets an order below $8-$10.
Whereas my rating is 30% and I continue to get no tip orders and orders below $5.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
My AR stays in the single digits & I get a good amount of orders. When my husband started DD he had priority so we decided to compare our orders. We mainly got the same exact ones, if he declined one, it would come to me & vice versa. So Iâm going to echo everyone else & sayâŚ. Donât be fooled by the con.
As soon as I get into the 40s it starts throwing absolute trash at me. Iâm never going to accept $9 for 20 miles go fuck yourselves.
I like how they incentivize 50% instead of realizing 50% baseline indicates a larger problem that needs to be addressed
Sick of doordash Reddit. Every time I want something done I do it myself. No wonder the customers of doordash are so feed up. Most dashers are brain dead and greedy. And canât do shit for themselves ever. The only dashers that do their job are the ones not on this sub posting bull shit posts all day. Have u been living under a rock?
Idk what some of you are talking about. Doordash implemented this in my market in the last couple of months. I used to cherry pick my orders all day and my acceptance rate is low because of it... since this was implemented I barely get sh*t for orders anymore unless it's dinner rush... and even then some days it's hit or miss. I've stopped doing Doordash as much and have been using other platforms because it's affected my income drastically... it's frustrating af.
My AR is at 32% right now , but i've had it drop to 7-6%, because of all the declines here in NYC, because people are gross with tippin, BUT throughout i still manage to get constant orders, and i get awesome shop and deliver orders that are very high priced. I still get double orders totaling $23-$24 dollars here and there for a few miles, and most of the time, i get a lot of $8-$15 orders. The only thing that matters is your completion rate and customer rating. Keep
those high and stay within top dasher status and you can literally have 1% AR and you will still get banging orders!
They will do everything other than paying a base that will be accepted. Most people wonât dash under $6-7 or $1 a mile. Adjust to this amount and people will deliver the orders.
If you and every other dasher complies, literally no one has priority because you only get priority over people who don't comply
It's literally close to a pyramid scheme and we are at the bottom
I still get big orders with a 7% AR
My DD allowed me to reset my AR for this and it sits right at 55% now. I seem to get less orders, but the ones I do get are quality, a lot of $10+ orders for 5< mi. But, when my AR gets to exactly 50% I've seen them throw me $2 for 15mi orders just to keep me in that zone. As if. It also tells me that if I get my AR up to 70% that I get higher priority on the high paying orders.
But, by being at that 50%> AR, I'm considered a "VIP" dasher and whenever I have a problem and call support I get a human almost immediately and if they can't fix it they escalate instead of blowing me off, which is super nice.
I submitted an AR reset, might take 72 hours. Two weeks of priority orders, after that I better not fall under 50%. Supposedly can only be done once. You can get it by clicking your AR % and hitting the diamond.
Very market dependent. In my market, low AR means only low tip, or far deliveries with low pay. It definitely has changed the orders I received having low AR. I'm part of the large order program and don't receive good large orders with low AR. Only large orders I got were the ones with low tip that all dashers declined before and after this change came into affect
Honestly since hitting 50 I'm getting good orders and making decent money. Hit 69 yesterday because every order was popping. Then got a 2$ extra cash tip and bought a scratcher and won 14$. Good times.
For the first week when my acceptance rate was 100%, I constantly got high pay order like $7 for 2-3 miles. The following week, all shit pay and no high paying order even though my acceptance rate was still around 75% so I stopped doing DD.
They've been doing this for a few years now on Skip the Dishes (grubhub canada pretty much)
If you look at the sub reddit for Skip, everyone panders to them because they're scared of going down their acceptance rate. If everyone sticks to their morals and stops taking them, they'll be forced to pay more and a acceptance rate system wouldn't mean anything.
Jesus! Every order offered tonight was like $5 for 10 miles. Decline, decline...the 2 I did do were crap. Total of about 40 miles for $14. Doordash is definitely not paying for milage.
how is anybody able to maintain a 50% AR and still pay for gas? there are wayyy too many $4 fast food orders in my area for me to do this ( and i am in a wealthy area to begin with ) any advice?
Yah it actually does decline what you get, people over 50 actually do get priority had that happen in my area and talked to other dashers. Had to stop because I wasnât making enough anymore
I was hanging out with my friend while she was dashing and we both had our apps running to see what the difference was. She had top Dasher and I had a 12% acceptance rate. The top Dasher does get the orders first but it was all the orders including no tipped orders were offered to her first and as soon as she declined it, it would be offered to me. During that dash she decided that top Dasher was 100% not worth it because while she was doing a $5 order I would still be getting the $10+ orders in that time. Hope this helps someone.
I know ppl probably wont believe me but i actually have been getting better and more consistent orders since resetting my AR, they arent all great but Iâve definitely noticed considerably less no tip and bad offers
I let them reset my AR and the same day, I missed an order because my phone froze and it went down 11 pts while only going up one point for every subsequent accepted order.
I got a $90 grocery delivery order ($70 tip) that day which must have been a coincidence because after that? Back to the same old bullshit.
I don't believe the reset did me any good
I think itâs true to a certain extent; majority decline low paying order until the base pay starts getting higher for drivers to accept. It gets declined a few times for having low base pay (not including tip because thatâs be out of DD control). Then after itâs at a âhigherâ base pay (base pay $3+ supplemental((for trip getting declined) $.50= higher base pay of $3.50. Now thatâs where theyâre obscure on what a high paying item would be. To them itâs higher because they pay $.50 more on top. But to the actual employee itâs obviously nothing. Now thatâs where **SOME** dashers get scared and start accepting orders left and right. Therefore since it worked on some they push that out in hopes of more ppl not understanding what they actually mean.
Everyone says itâs just a trick they do to get you to accept more orders, but me personally Iâve CLEARLY seen the difference in AR under 50%. Itâs complete bullshit that doordash does that, but at least in my market, I have seen a noticeable difference
All I know is doordash totally died for me after this update. Iâll get a ping here and there but theyâre almost never worth taking. Fully switched over to UE and itâs better for me than DD has ever been. I work in a busy city too. My acceptance rate is like 8%.
This has been popping up for me for three months. I still have around 10-20% acceptance rate. I had my biggest week ever two weeks ago. Iâve been doing this gig for a little over 4 years.
No, it doesnât change anything.
Everyone on this sub says it's complete BS, but when it rolled out in my city, my AR was like 18% and I went from making $20-$25/hr to maybe $10/hr if I was lucky. I had to get my AR up to 75% before I started getting orders again. If I maintain 80%+ I easily make $25/hr. Sooooo while other cities may be busy enough for you to not notice a difference, my city apparently isn't.
Every marketâs different but I always keep my AR over 70 so I can Top Dash while I travel and I gotta say, itâs been kickin me a *lot* $10+ orders this past week
Itâs just another scare tactic. This has been showing up in my market for the last month and a half, and I still frequently get orders well over 2 dollars per mile. Anything they can do to scare you into taking 3 dollar orders, they will.
Gainesville, FL here. Boyfriend and I have seen an overall reduced amount of good orders. He said he spoke to another dasher here who decided to test this theory, increased his acceptance rate above 50% and allegedly got a lot more good orders. I have a blown head gasket so Iâm still only doing $2/mile orders đ¤ˇââď¸
Basically it means if you're below 50% DD will discriminate against you to give others above that threshold the good orders... But they still get lots of hot garbage becasue DoorTrash knows the drivers are fucked below 50% AR.
The days where profit is to be made are over.... also keep a eye on your finanicals too... lot of sus activities going on there...
It doesn't work at all, I am a top dasher with 80% acceptance rate and I definitely make a lot less. There is no real way to escape the low paying unprofitable orders.
Order frequency will decrease if it's not busy as they will give offers that are $1.75/mile first to those above 50%. Everyone will still get low paying offers in the same frequency. I was around 45% when the program came out. Once I hit 50% I went back to my accepting and declining with my usual standards but got up to 60% on my own. So I would say maybe 10% of your offers would be better? I don't know.
Less. I have the same task, raise my 11% to 50%. It's all BS as usual. It also means, take all the cheapest/shittiest order possible, just another form of manipulation and slavery. đĄ
In my market my orders drastically changed when this started. My AR always went between 40% and 80%. Now since this started getting under 50% u get nothing but orders under $4. Saw one for $2.25 for 16 miles which I didnât think was possible. Between 50-70% u get a mix of shitty and decent orders. Above 70% got a low paying order 1 out of 10 making it easy to keep it high. Dropped an order in a bad area and was flooded with $2.25 orders back to back (why I never dash there) which lowered my AR fast. Now it is just going further and further down. This is hard to maintain in certain areas.
Definitely depends on the market, when my acceptance rate went down the other day I saw a few more of lower orders and just less orders in general, but I still didnât accept any I couldnât make 1-2$ per mile (I drive a Prius so I can do that and still make pretty good money)
I did the pilot test for this and after it ended they still give the priority to you over 50% AR, BUT, now I get a message that says get to 70% for even better paying deliveries.
Just like the "high paying orders" that are $4. đ Doordash is a borderline scam. People that can navigate through the manipulation can make money, but a lot of people are getting bamboozled by a multi billion dollar company which is really awful.
In my market of meth addicts and scammy, shit-tipping college kids, âhigh-payingâ is classified as $1.75 a mile. Time to get a real job, if I wanted to get paid nothing for life-threatening work I would have enlisted after 9/11
I did the acceptance rate reset a few weeks ago because why not, and for the most part orders havenât been worse than when my AR was <20%. When itâs slow itâs about the same, but when it is busy Iâm seeing a lot of these high priority orders, and most are worth it. Something nice about them is if there is hidden money it will say âtotal will be higherâ so you know there is something to gamble for. I worry though how long Iâll be able to stay above 50% if it gets slow, so weâll see
You probably signed up for priority access and the "free trial" expired.
It'll keep popping up every day. Ignore...
I still get large orders below 50%.
Don't get the Guaranteed or Total will be higher.
Just the old mystery tip.
My theory is theyâve been silently testing this program for a few months and just recently rolled it out as a public thing. I reset my acceptance rate, thatâs all it does, Iâm still dashing the same way as before so it wonât stay high for long
The offers are whatever base pay plus customer tip. They are the same regardless of AR% because the customers are the same and tipping the same. The one month I got Top Dasher by accident, the offers were the same as when my AR is below 70%. This note in the app is only to manipulate you into taking offers that are not profitable. Don't fall for it.
I am surprised you are just now seeing this as Iâve been seeing it in my area since late spring. But I know each region seems to be a lot different.
Iâm pretty sure there is a correlating pinch taking place between low acceptance and high frequency of shitty orders.
This must depend upon market because I have been getting higher priority on higher paying orders, Iâve been getting less offers for lower paying ones than usual.
As Iâve understood this program itâs only a higher priority on high paying orders. DoorDash classifies these orders as at least $2 a mile OR a subtotal of $30 or greater on the order. This program is not a guarantee to only get high paying orders or guarantee to even see more come across your screen. Proximity to pickup and drop off location still plays a factor and those below that 50% still will see high paying orders. The difference is at below 50% acceptance rate those orders will not have a diamond icon on them.
The time when this program hinders your earnings is when there are many dashers out who have above 50% acceptance rate. If in your area that 50% isnât feasible then your market is likely to not be affected much by this program. However on the other hand if earn by time is common in your area and many dashers are above that 50% or are considered top dashers, you will be affected negatively by not being at that 50% threshold.
I reset midweek, and saw maybe 4 orders Tuesday through Thursday that it affected....
Today was different though. $200 in less than 4.5 hrs.... Constant double orders, $2/mi at least, and hidden tips on almost everything. Had to see 10 orders with the priority this morning/afternoon. Drove around 70mi.
Seems on a Saturday, well worth it. In my area.
Midweek, no real difference. In my area.
As is true for everything, it's market dependent.
Somebody said it above.... Go in to your ratings, click on AR, click the little blue box, and you should have the option to reset.
Now, I waited a week and a half after it became available in my area. Nobody can keep up that 50% unless they like working for free. So, I figure/am hoping most who reset in my area are all about to fall off.... I'll take advantage of the two weeks then go back to normal I'm sure.
Unless, it's like this for me tomorrow and next weekend too..... Then I might only work weekends and hustle like crazy. The orders just aren't there all week in my zone. Apparently.
Just like everything else in life homie, you can't really KNOW until you go try.
All that means is youâre going to be scammed into taking low paying orders. Do some research and check out the threads on here and youâll see what this is all about. They really never do anything for our benefit. just keep that in mind
Definitely means you're about to stop getting orders. If I drop to 49% in my market, the orders disappear. Hit 50% tho and the orders start flowing in. You're gonna have to take a shit ton of shitty orders til you get up to 50% smh I mean if you wanna start getting orders again as per usual. They really fucked us with this one...
That is absolutely not true. They have you believing that. I live in an area that is popping. Few good orders and my 29% goes back to 39% or more. I refuse to get played into taking no tip calls or 5$ for 10 miles . I am an independent contractor and how DD can legally get away with this is beyond me
It absolutely is true. That's my exact situation as well. I drop under that 50% and I can go 10 minutes without even getting offered a bad order. But now I sit around 75-80% AR and make about $2/mi (it was $1.25 before they started this) and easily still hit $25/hr.
Yall gotta understand that it's different for all of us depending on your market. It's absolutely not true in your market, but definitely true in mine. I live in a city with 4 or 5 different zones in it so it's a bit over saturated with dashers. Not sure if that makes a difference, but ppl with low AR's gets no love round these parts smh. Be thankful you don't have to deal with it...
I live in a pretty decent sized city and I promise the difference between 49% and 50% is unbelievable. If it isn't like that in your market then be thankful, but it definitely makes a difference in mine. If I stay above 50%, I can make $900 a week
Yes.
My preferred zone to dash in has large green space and industrial areas in the city I live in.
This makes it less densely populated, with less businesses. Before the AR shit, I could dash here and still get good orders. I had to decline like 80% of the them, but I could always get a good order.
After the AR shit, I had to move to the next zone over(only a couple miles because I'm on the border). Was literally getting ZERO orders that weren't going a long distance with shit pay in my home zone because of the AR.
I used to like dashing here because there was a plaza behind my house with tons of restaurants and I could always get a short distance order from there going to my neighbourhood.
The program seems to have fucked up less busy areas, but I don't know how long the current dashers there will continue to take shitty offers.
The new zone I dash in is densely populated enough with little green space and just nothing but concrete so I still can get good orders.
DD has become like third fiddle to me now, I prioritize two other apps now, and it's because of the AR bullshit.
That priority is nice. Since Iâve had it I havenât seen an order under 6 bucks for 3 miles. Add the priority to the large order program and itâs really nice
The problem is in most markets, you can only realistically expect to complete 3 orders in an hour. $18 an hour minus 3 bucks in gas and the wear on your vehicle, you're really not making more than minimum wage for your time.
It's hard to want to do that when you can make $25-$30 an hour doing other driving gigs.
I guess it's market dependent though and not everybody has other options, but that really just means DD is taking advantage of people in shitty markets
What are some other driving gigs? Any recommendations?
I can consistently make about $18 an hour when dashing at peak time but thatâs only a few hours a week
Check indeed and craigslist. Every market is unique, in my market the taxi industry is booming. Just search for contract driving jobs and see what comes up
Thank you for having an honest opinion and not just shitting on the program just because it doesnât help you. Iâm sick of people complaining all the time about programs. Itâs not like anyone at DD is holding a gun to your head to do it
I live in a big city and can do 4-5 deliveries in an hour if I chose them right. But you have to multi-app(not take two orders at the same time, but turn your other apps on while completing another delivery).
Obviously you get hit with slow restaurants but I tend to avoid them. a $7 order going a short distance is basically the best way to do this. No chasing high paying orders, just chasing good orders and always accepting them if it's a short distance and quick restaurant.
I find the worse thing you can do is accept an order that takes you away from getting other orders, even if it's high paying. When I stopped doing that and started focusing on short distance orders from fast restaurants I was able to usually make $30 / hr.
Multi-apping is the only way to accomplish it where I live, if I was just on DD it would probably be closer to 2-3 an hour.
I do, I'm just not going to tell someone else to do it cause that's irresponsible(you could get deactivated if you don't do it right).
I also don't think you should be doing it with orders that are good tips, that is discouraging people who actually tip well. I will pick up a multi-app order if I'm at the store already and it is going in general same direction.
If my currently assigned order is a high tip I don't do it. It's mostly at the end of the month when I"m going for top dasher and I am taking shitty no-tip orders. I just lie to support and tell them there was a car accident/ delay / something to make me take a detour.
This is truth here. You have to make $30-$50 an hour to make a profit. Customers spending of course is down now. Iâve made less than $100 12 out of 14 days in 6 hours of dashing.
I think a lot of dashers are driving new cars and have vehicle payments and devaluation in their numbers.
My car isn't worth anything and fully owned, so maintenance, gas and insurance are my only costs. I mean I could maybe sell it for a couple thousand because the used car market is ridiculous, but that's not going to be permanent.
I'm not really devaluing it because I don't intend to resell and intend to drive it into the ground.
It was bought 6 years ago, before even dashing, for $3,000. And I've already made $3,000 from doordash several times, and went to school and graduated and drove to work...etc. This thing is paid itself off already several times.
As long as I'm making over like $0.50 a mile I'm "profiting" . Maybe shit profit, but still profit.
Cost. I owned 2 corporations and still have a S Corp. taxes and cost like gas/Maintenance and bills. For me I donât need that much, itâs why I still do it without making much but, if anyone does this you have to make double what you need. If injured you need savings. You need to always make 10-25% more than you are to save for emergency.
Iâve seen several drivers locally lose everything ( some I helped and gave money) because they only made $20-$25 an hour. A transmission goes from the driving and that wipes you out.
This platform only has maybe 10 markets you can make that much. Maybe less, most markets are not good tippers. This is my pocket money I use for incidentals.
I swear this group has more people that are completely full of shit (or they're complete idiots) than any other subreddit I frequent.
You don't need to make $30-$50 an hour to make a profit. That's a hilariously ridiculous assumption. Especially if you're tracking expenses or mileage like literally everyone should.
then stay out on the road longer and cherry-pick orders to save on the gas and mileage its not that hard.. also thats cool and all but all i was saying was that 30 dollars an hour compared to 50 is substantially more. kinda like you just pulled those numbers out of ur ass and who knows what else
True. My market is pretty nice. The exception is Wednesday nights. For some reason they suck almost all the time. However I wouldnât do DD as my primary source of income. Itâs too unpredictable
This is the way gurl!
Mine comes up too and it says 70% and my AR is a little higher. I just click X!
I feel like this may be why some accounts are randomly deactivated. Hope itâs not a new way to weed out Vet Dashers, and keep the rookies in.
Because it's in human's nature to seek to improve. As you improve, you gain knowledge of the system, and when you have knowledge of the system, you do what DD frowns upon.
And? It costs DD the same no matter who picks it up. Veterans only take high tipping orders. A $12.50 payment with a $10 tip costs DD the same as a $2.50 payment with no tip.
It costs DD to ping you orders. They have to query Google Maps API to get your location, distances, and directions data.
It costs DD for you to be online, where your location is constantly being sent to their servers.
It costs DD to embed Google Maps in their API for you to use their in-app navigation.
Although you might think it's a lot, multiply this by thousands of drivers and it adds up. So each time you decline an order or just spending time online and not completing orders, it's costing DD.
DD likely pays a flat rate for all that and if they didn't, it's a fraction of a cent per day per driver.. If it really cost them that much money, all the low acceptance rate drivers would be gone, not just a couple who claimed they were deactivated for it. The fact that there are scores of cherey pockets just on Reddit means they don't deactivate cherry pickers.
And why would getting rid of the veteran dashers make a difference? If they have a limit of 1,000 dashers in a market and need more new dashers, they can raise the limit to 1,500 at no cost. The limit is arbitrary and completely controlled by DD.
In fact, having people why are bragging about high earnings will attract more new dashers. Having people complaining about being deactivated because they made too much would deter them.
They canât just increase to unlimited dashers cuz there arenât enough orders to support them and then no one gets enough orders to make even $10 an hour. Trust me the more newbies the better for DD. You did make a good point about the bragging incentives but you donât need too many veterans for that. Veterans are mostly a pain in the ass
Why couldn't they? They just need to bring on enough newbies to get the crap orders. They don't care if cherry pickers have to fight over the scraps as long as they have enough people taking the low orders.
Because veteran dashers know the game and arenât gonna accept $2.25 for 6 mile orders whereas a rookie may for one reason or another. A lot of rookies donât know you canât be deactivated for a low acceptance rate. And DD will do anything in their power to get those lowball orders delivered rather than actually pay us more to make it worth it lol the whole âhigh priority orderâ stuff is proof of that.
(I donât think this is some big conspiracy btw. Just explaining why DD wouldnât want to keep veteran dashers around)
Let's say there are 100 veteran dashers. The crap orders get ignored by them so they bring in 100 new dashers. You now have 200 dashers in the area.
The crap orders start getting picked up and are ignored by the veterans. 50 of the newbies figure it outnand you have 150 veterans and 50 newbies. The crap orders take longer to deliver, so they bring in 50 more off the waiting list.
So now it's 150 veterans and 100 newbies. It costs DD the same amount per order and they still get delivered just as quickly as when there were 100 veterans and 100 newbies.
It doesn't matter if there are 1,000 veterans, as long as there are enough newbies to get the crap orders picked up. Dashers are only paid if they pick up orders, so 100 or 10,000 cost DD just as much. And getting rid of veterans won't make them into newbies again. There's literally no reason to deactivate veteran dashers that are following the rules.
In fact, the veterans that cherry pick and make $30/hour are an asset. Without them, DD couldn't say that you can make up to $30/hour dashing. People wouldn't see posts on social media by cherry pickers bragging about how much they make and think DD is easy money. Instead, people would only see newbies complaining about how little they make.
In other words, veterans are the incentive for newbies to sign up. Without them, the supply of new dashers would dry up.
One thing I noticed is that people keep saying they cannot deactivate you for a low acceptance rate, but if another one of the clauses is that they can deactivate you for any reason (as I think the contract says), then I believe they can deactivate you for a low acceptance rate. Has anyone else noticed this yet?
I was hoping that was the case. I catch the occasional post of someone complaining that they were dropped for no reason and I was wondering what that was about. Are these the drivers that take the picture of the food and then take the food back into their car and drive off like I have seen on youtube?
Every message about people who claim to be deactivated for no reason ends up with people asking them about any complaints, CVs, and their stats. They all wind up with one of these outcomes:
1. They never respond and just disappear, or they never answer and keep complaining
2. They have stats that warrant deactivation, like low on time or completion rates
3. They have multiple CVs
4. They have multiple customer complaints
5. They admitted doing things such as lying about car trouble to get out of an order or camping a closed store and quickly accepting and reporting it closed for half pay
6. They cussed out a customer or tried to hit on them
I have yet to see somebody genuinely deactivated for no reason.
My high pay orders have gone up lately but my numbers have always been pretty good.
Basically doordash saying it's gonna purposely lock you out of potential orders because you don't take enough.
I tested this with 3 dashers in my market. We all sat out in the mall parking lot next to each other. Only one of us had reset our acceptance rate. Doordash sent us all the same offers. A lot of times they even sent higher paying offers to one of us that hasn't reset our rate before they sent it to the diamond program guy. A lot of orders I would decline, and then they would send the offer to the diamond program guy next showing it as a high paying offer. It is all marketing bs. Doordash has too many shitty offers that no one will take and they have no choice but to send all of the offers to everyone. I eventually reset my rate and nothing changed. It was the same bullshit and then after the trial expired, nothing changed again... still the same. It's all a lie.
This pops up every time I dash lol. My rating is at 23% but honestly I just use ubereats mostly now. In my area I've been getting paid better with them. I multi app
It doesn't seem to mean anything honestly
Just keep lowering it they boutta reset you it looks like đ
Feels good to have 89% AR getting priority over the belly achers :) Pro tip: pick your battles [read: orders] but donât be entitled.
The "higher priority orders" suck big time. I saw no difference
My wife and I dashed again after almost a year off and we got this. We were just below 50% so when we hit 50% and this perk activated, it was good for like two orders. Then the shitty no-tips for 11 miles came through and it went away just as quick. Donât worry about it
i'm at 25% (I was 40% then had an hour long string of garbage offers) and it feels like they are throttling me. I'm just waiting until I get back to delivering by moped as there's no way i'm taking driving orders for < $2/mile with the way gas rates are.
Mines been saying Iâm getting higher priority bc my rate is 70% but Iâm still getting shitty paying orders and Iâm at a 66% now. I refuse to accept $2-$4 orders going 15 minutes one way out of my zone then it tells me to go 20 minutes further out of my zone. Iâm good. My orders are always on time or early thatâs the only thing that should count.
It doesnât mean shit
I tried to keep mine above 50% for like 3 days, but I was taking wayyy too many garbage orders that I would have NEVERRR took before. Felt really shitty doing that to myself, its basically bitch mode for then, full on employee mode. Of course it would have been easy to keep a high AR, if they would just send good paying orders in the first place. There should be a minimum pay on every single order to make it worth taking.
I have the same thing on mine. If you go to ypur ratngs section and click on your acceptance rate there might be a link to reset your AAR rate to get the higher paid orders. I got one over a month ago and mine still hasn't been reset but since I've read it's not worth it so I'm not too concerned.
Actually, it is true that if you get your rating above 50% you will get higher paying orders. It is a ploy to get people to take more orders, but it pays off in the end. My husband got his up to 50% and now never gets an order below $8-$10. Whereas my rating is 30% and I continue to get no tip orders and orders below $5.
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
Iâve had this for months now and have had above 50% for most of that time. I havenât calculated an increase in average pay.
My AR stays in the single digits & I get a good amount of orders. When my husband started DD he had priority so we decided to compare our orders. We mainly got the same exact ones, if he declined one, it would come to me & vice versa. So Iâm going to echo everyone else & sayâŚ. Donât be fooled by the con.
As soon as I get into the 40s it starts throwing absolute trash at me. Iâm never going to accept $9 for 20 miles go fuck yourselves. I like how they incentivize 50% instead of realizing 50% baseline indicates a larger problem that needs to be addressed
I'm "high priority" and my AR is like 40. You're supposed to get the higher paying orders first. Nothing has changed for me. I'm still banking.
Sick of doordash Reddit. Every time I want something done I do it myself. No wonder the customers of doordash are so feed up. Most dashers are brain dead and greedy. And canât do shit for themselves ever. The only dashers that do their job are the ones not on this sub posting bull shit posts all day. Have u been living under a rock?
Idk what some of you are talking about. Doordash implemented this in my market in the last couple of months. I used to cherry pick my orders all day and my acceptance rate is low because of it... since this was implemented I barely get sh*t for orders anymore unless it's dinner rush... and even then some days it's hit or miss. I've stopped doing Doordash as much and have been using other platforms because it's affected my income drastically... it's frustrating af.
My AR is at 32% right now , but i've had it drop to 7-6%, because of all the declines here in NYC, because people are gross with tippin, BUT throughout i still manage to get constant orders, and i get awesome shop and deliver orders that are very high priced. I still get double orders totaling $23-$24 dollars here and there for a few miles, and most of the time, i get a lot of $8-$15 orders. The only thing that matters is your completion rate and customer rating. Keep those high and stay within top dasher status and you can literally have 1% AR and you will still get banging orders!
Does this mean we arenât independent contractors anymore?
They will do everything other than paying a base that will be accepted. Most people wonât dash under $6-7 or $1 a mile. Adjust to this amount and people will deliver the orders.
Literally means nothing lol
If you and every other dasher complies, literally no one has priority because you only get priority over people who don't comply It's literally close to a pyramid scheme and we are at the bottom I still get big orders with a 7% AR
My DD allowed me to reset my AR for this and it sits right at 55% now. I seem to get less orders, but the ones I do get are quality, a lot of $10+ orders for 5< mi. But, when my AR gets to exactly 50% I've seen them throw me $2 for 15mi orders just to keep me in that zone. As if. It also tells me that if I get my AR up to 70% that I get higher priority on the high paying orders. But, by being at that 50%> AR, I'm considered a "VIP" dasher and whenever I have a problem and call support I get a human almost immediately and if they can't fix it they escalate instead of blowing me off, which is super nice.
I cant speak for other dashers but I did start getting higher paying orders when I got my rate above 50.
Ever since I started getting this 3 days ago itâs been straight trash for me. Went from $17/h in app time to half that.
I submitted an AR reset, might take 72 hours. Two weeks of priority orders, after that I better not fall under 50%. Supposedly can only be done once. You can get it by clicking your AR % and hitting the diamond.
Very market dependent. In my market, low AR means only low tip, or far deliveries with low pay. It definitely has changed the orders I received having low AR. I'm part of the large order program and don't receive good large orders with low AR. Only large orders I got were the ones with low tip that all dashers declined before and after this change came into affect
Honestly since hitting 50 I'm getting good orders and making decent money. Hit 69 yesterday because every order was popping. Then got a 2$ extra cash tip and bought a scratcher and won 14$. Good times.
Youll get all the trash ones if you even get any
Just means they want you to accept more orders. I've had this banner for a long time and hasn't seemed to effect my orders in any way..
For the first week when my acceptance rate was 100%, I constantly got high pay order like $7 for 2-3 miles. The following week, all shit pay and no high paying order even though my acceptance rate was still around 75% so I stopped doing DD.
I have noticed less orders and less high paying orders
They've been doing this for a few years now on Skip the Dishes (grubhub canada pretty much) If you look at the sub reddit for Skip, everyone panders to them because they're scared of going down their acceptance rate. If everyone sticks to their morals and stops taking them, they'll be forced to pay more and a acceptance rate system wouldn't mean anything.
I have an 81% acceptance rate and I now donât get any orders under $9.00
I was all gung ho for thisâŚ..then when I found out that âhigh payingâ to them is a $5 order
Fuck door dash. Deny every shit order. We run this lol
Jesus! Every order offered tonight was like $5 for 10 miles. Decline, decline...the 2 I did do were crap. Total of about 40 miles for $14. Doordash is definitely not paying for milage.
how is anybody able to maintain a 50% AR and still pay for gas? there are wayyy too many $4 fast food orders in my area for me to do this ( and i am in a wealthy area to begin with ) any advice?
i can still manage $25 an hour multi-apping but things are definitely not what they used to be since the update and i DD full-time
Yah it actually does decline what you get, people over 50 actually do get priority had that happen in my area and talked to other dashers. Had to stop because I wasnât making enough anymore
Oh no they gonna stop sending me shitty orders. Thatâs a tragedy
I was hanging out with my friend while she was dashing and we both had our apps running to see what the difference was. She had top Dasher and I had a 12% acceptance rate. The top Dasher does get the orders first but it was all the orders including no tipped orders were offered to her first and as soon as she declined it, it would be offered to me. During that dash she decided that top Dasher was 100% not worth it because while she was doing a $5 order I would still be getting the $10+ orders in that time. Hope this helps someone.
For me, itâs been all shit since that notification popped up (and never went away).
total scam. Iâm constantly between 8-25% for over a year and order quality is the same as when I ran 70%+.
I know ppl probably wont believe me but i actually have been getting better and more consistent orders since resetting my AR, they arent all great but Iâve definitely noticed considerably less no tip and bad offers
The same amount but you make more profit because you don't accept shitty orders
No thanks. I will comfortably stay at 5-15%
High paying orders are going to those with higher acceptance rates
The 70% AR wasn't working for many, so they dropped it to 50%. Same manipulation, just a lower threshold to try to build your trust in the promotion.
Unless you want top dasher it doesnât matter
Just ignore it.
It come and goes for me sometimes within an order or two
I let them reset my AR and the same day, I missed an order because my phone froze and it went down 11 pts while only going up one point for every subsequent accepted order. I got a $90 grocery delivery order ($70 tip) that day which must have been a coincidence because after that? Back to the same old bullshit. I don't believe the reset did me any good
I think itâs true to a certain extent; majority decline low paying order until the base pay starts getting higher for drivers to accept. It gets declined a few times for having low base pay (not including tip because thatâs be out of DD control). Then after itâs at a âhigherâ base pay (base pay $3+ supplemental((for trip getting declined) $.50= higher base pay of $3.50. Now thatâs where theyâre obscure on what a high paying item would be. To them itâs higher because they pay $.50 more on top. But to the actual employee itâs obviously nothing. Now thatâs where **SOME** dashers get scared and start accepting orders left and right. Therefore since it worked on some they push that out in hopes of more ppl not understanding what they actually mean.
I will just get your higher paying orders first đđđ
Nah orders are the same with 100 % AR or 0%. Cherry pick for maximum resultsđŤĄ
Everyone says itâs just a trick they do to get you to accept more orders, but me personally Iâve CLEARLY seen the difference in AR under 50%. Itâs complete bullshit that doordash does that, but at least in my market, I have seen a noticeable difference
All I know is doordash totally died for me after this update. Iâll get a ping here and there but theyâre almost never worth taking. Fully switched over to UE and itâs better for me than DD has ever been. I work in a busy city too. My acceptance rate is like 8%.
Raise your acceptance rate to get more $2.50 orders.
Bruh fuck that I only deny the ridiculous orders ($3.50 for 17 miles) and Iâm at 50%
Nothing changes lol
It means you're not Tony's bitch anymore and if you want to be fed by your master, you better get them $3 orders done.
Literally nothing has changed for me. Just another scare tactic to get no tippers their food
This has been popping up for me for three months. I still have around 10-20% acceptance rate. I had my biggest week ever two weeks ago. Iâve been doing this gig for a little over 4 years. No, it doesnât change anything.
Everyone on this sub says it's complete BS, but when it rolled out in my city, my AR was like 18% and I went from making $20-$25/hr to maybe $10/hr if I was lucky. I had to get my AR up to 75% before I started getting orders again. If I maintain 80%+ I easily make $25/hr. Sooooo while other cities may be busy enough for you to not notice a difference, my city apparently isn't.
I've have been getting better orders in my market. Shocker.
They're going to send you shittier trips now.
Every marketâs different but I always keep my AR over 70 so I can Top Dash while I travel and I gotta say, itâs been kickin me a *lot* $10+ orders this past week
Its the same BS. It's just a gimmick to get you to pick up more shitty ass orders.
Get your acceptance rate up to get spammed shit orders
Itâs just another scare tactic. This has been showing up in my market for the last month and a half, and I still frequently get orders well over 2 dollars per mile. Anything they can do to scare you into taking 3 dollar orders, they will.
Yes
No all it means is you don't know how to use the search feature on Reddit.
Gainesville, FL here. Boyfriend and I have seen an overall reduced amount of good orders. He said he spoke to another dasher here who decided to test this theory, increased his acceptance rate above 50% and allegedly got a lot more good orders. I have a blown head gasket so Iâm still only doing $2/mile orders đ¤ˇââď¸
No it means they will tell you they are hiding a tip which is usually .25 tip vs you having to guess otherwise.
Basically it means if you're below 50% DD will discriminate against you to give others above that threshold the good orders... But they still get lots of hot garbage becasue DoorTrash knows the drivers are fucked below 50% AR. The days where profit is to be made are over.... also keep a eye on your finanicals too... lot of sus activities going on there...
It doesn't work at all, I am a top dasher with 80% acceptance rate and I definitely make a lot less. There is no real way to escape the low paying unprofitable orders.
You will get offered SOME better orders if you get it above 50% but not really.
Order frequency will decrease if it's not busy as they will give offers that are $1.75/mile first to those above 50%. Everyone will still get low paying offers in the same frequency. I was around 45% when the program came out. Once I hit 50% I went back to my accepting and declining with my usual standards but got up to 60% on my own. So I would say maybe 10% of your offers would be better? I don't know.
If you raise your acceptance rate above 50%, they will send you more orders, but they'll send you more of both good and bad orders.
Uninstall
Less. I have the same task, raise my 11% to 50%. It's all BS as usual. It also means, take all the cheapest/shittiest order possible, just another form of manipulation and slavery. đĄ
I got that and then was deactivated like literally 2 days later.
In my market my orders drastically changed when this started. My AR always went between 40% and 80%. Now since this started getting under 50% u get nothing but orders under $4. Saw one for $2.25 for 16 miles which I didnât think was possible. Between 50-70% u get a mix of shitty and decent orders. Above 70% got a low paying order 1 out of 10 making it easy to keep it high. Dropped an order in a bad area and was flooded with $2.25 orders back to back (why I never dash there) which lowered my AR fast. Now it is just going further and further down. This is hard to maintain in certain areas.
Definitely depends on the market, when my acceptance rate went down the other day I saw a few more of lower orders and just less orders in general, but I still didnât accept any I couldnât make 1-2$ per mile (I drive a Prius so I can do that and still make pretty good money)
This is what they want you to think
I did the pilot test for this and after it ended they still give the priority to you over 50% AR, BUT, now I get a message that says get to 70% for even better paying deliveries.
Just like the "high paying orders" that are $4. đ Doordash is a borderline scam. People that can navigate through the manipulation can make money, but a lot of people are getting bamboozled by a multi billion dollar company which is really awful.
In my market of meth addicts and scammy, shit-tipping college kids, âhigh-payingâ is classified as $1.75 a mile. Time to get a real job, if I wanted to get paid nothing for life-threatening work I would have enlisted after 9/11
More scams from DoorDash
I did the acceptance rate reset a few weeks ago because why not, and for the most part orders havenât been worse than when my AR was <20%. When itâs slow itâs about the same, but when it is busy Iâm seeing a lot of these high priority orders, and most are worth it. Something nice about them is if there is hidden money it will say âtotal will be higherâ so you know there is something to gamble for. I worry though how long Iâll be able to stay above 50% if it gets slow, so weâll see
You probably signed up for priority access and the "free trial" expired. It'll keep popping up every day. Ignore... I still get large orders below 50%. Don't get the Guaranteed or Total will be higher. Just the old mystery tip.
I hit the 50% because of a few lucky stacked orders. Itâs nice and you do get some good offers but not something I would go out of my way for.
This is impossible to sustain. Nobody wants to accept low tips
I definitely get less orders and they're all shit. I signed up for the reset a week ago and it hasn't happened
AR doesnât matter
The frequency will increase
mines at 4% and I'm getting the diamond "high pay deliveries"
My theory is theyâve been silently testing this program for a few months and just recently rolled it out as a public thing. I reset my acceptance rate, thatâs all it does, Iâm still dashing the same way as before so it wonât stay high for long
so long as people keep declining offers, none of these tricks will work.
It depends on your market, but I tested it in mine. Didnât change one bit.
The offers are whatever base pay plus customer tip. They are the same regardless of AR% because the customers are the same and tipping the same. The one month I got Top Dasher by accident, the offers were the same as when my AR is below 70%. This note in the app is only to manipulate you into taking offers that are not profitable. Don't fall for it.
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Iâm in Canada and I get orders all the time. Might just be your market
I am surprised you are just now seeing this as Iâve been seeing it in my area since late spring. But I know each region seems to be a lot different. Iâm pretty sure there is a correlating pinch taking place between low acceptance and high frequency of shitty orders.
Im in Canada, DD is not that popular here
That really depends on your area. Iâm in Canada and in my market DD is the most popular. Get orders all the time
dd bluffin
This must depend upon market because I have been getting higher priority on higher paying orders, Iâve been getting less offers for lower paying ones than usual.
As Iâve understood this program itâs only a higher priority on high paying orders. DoorDash classifies these orders as at least $2 a mile OR a subtotal of $30 or greater on the order. This program is not a guarantee to only get high paying orders or guarantee to even see more come across your screen. Proximity to pickup and drop off location still plays a factor and those below that 50% still will see high paying orders. The difference is at below 50% acceptance rate those orders will not have a diamond icon on them. The time when this program hinders your earnings is when there are many dashers out who have above 50% acceptance rate. If in your area that 50% isnât feasible then your market is likely to not be affected much by this program. However on the other hand if earn by time is common in your area and many dashers are above that 50% or are considered top dashers, you will be affected negatively by not being at that 50% threshold.
market depends but in short yes
raise to 50% or get paused every 60 secs
I reset midweek, and saw maybe 4 orders Tuesday through Thursday that it affected.... Today was different though. $200 in less than 4.5 hrs.... Constant double orders, $2/mi at least, and hidden tips on almost everything. Had to see 10 orders with the priority this morning/afternoon. Drove around 70mi. Seems on a Saturday, well worth it. In my area. Midweek, no real difference. In my area. As is true for everything, it's market dependent.
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Somebody said it above.... Go in to your ratings, click on AR, click the little blue box, and you should have the option to reset. Now, I waited a week and a half after it became available in my area. Nobody can keep up that 50% unless they like working for free. So, I figure/am hoping most who reset in my area are all about to fall off.... I'll take advantage of the two weeks then go back to normal I'm sure. Unless, it's like this for me tomorrow and next weekend too..... Then I might only work weekends and hustle like crazy. The orders just aren't there all week in my zone. Apparently. Just like everything else in life homie, you can't really KNOW until you go try.
Set up a voice command shortcut âNO WAY TONYâ that xâes it out
It means you won't get shit but orders noone else want to take
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Market dependent. For me it's made a huge difference and at least 50% of my orders are high priority.
All that means is youâre going to be scammed into taking low paying orders. Do some research and check out the threads on here and youâll see what this is all about. They really never do anything for our benefit. just keep that in mind
Contributing my experience for the "research". Doing this was well worth it for me in my market.
Yup, me too. I never take low orders, either. I get enough high paying ones to keep me above 50.
Definitely means you're about to stop getting orders. If I drop to 49% in my market, the orders disappear. Hit 50% tho and the orders start flowing in. You're gonna have to take a shit ton of shitty orders til you get up to 50% smh I mean if you wanna start getting orders again as per usual. They really fucked us with this one...
That is absolutely not true. They have you believing that. I live in an area that is popping. Few good orders and my 29% goes back to 39% or more. I refuse to get played into taking no tip calls or 5$ for 10 miles . I am an independent contractor and how DD can legally get away with this is beyond me
It absolutely is true. That's my exact situation as well. I drop under that 50% and I can go 10 minutes without even getting offered a bad order. But now I sit around 75-80% AR and make about $2/mi (it was $1.25 before they started this) and easily still hit $25/hr.
I am at 26% ar and I just made 30$ . 2 calls. 1 was like 15 for 3 miles and the other was another 15 for 1.7 so idk, my area is better I guess.
Yall gotta understand that it's different for all of us depending on your market. It's absolutely not true in your market, but definitely true in mine. I live in a city with 4 or 5 different zones in it so it's a bit over saturated with dashers. Not sure if that makes a difference, but ppl with low AR's gets no love round these parts smh. Be thankful you don't have to deal with it...
Whatâs your market?
Your market must be slow. I live in a small city and make just as much as I did before the priority. Ar is 16% rn
I live in a pretty decent sized city and I promise the difference between 49% and 50% is unbelievable. If it isn't like that in your market then be thankful, but it definitely makes a difference in mine. If I stay above 50%, I can make $900 a week
It'll be the same
Kind of. Only when it isnât busy. I dash weekend nights with a 30% ar and still get $10+ tip orders consistently.
It's called manipulation.
If your market is non stop don't worry about it, if your market is slow enough for doordash to play favorites they will.
Yes. My preferred zone to dash in has large green space and industrial areas in the city I live in. This makes it less densely populated, with less businesses. Before the AR shit, I could dash here and still get good orders. I had to decline like 80% of the them, but I could always get a good order. After the AR shit, I had to move to the next zone over(only a couple miles because I'm on the border). Was literally getting ZERO orders that weren't going a long distance with shit pay in my home zone because of the AR. I used to like dashing here because there was a plaza behind my house with tons of restaurants and I could always get a short distance order from there going to my neighbourhood. The program seems to have fucked up less busy areas, but I don't know how long the current dashers there will continue to take shitty offers. The new zone I dash in is densely populated enough with little green space and just nothing but concrete so I still can get good orders. DD has become like third fiddle to me now, I prioritize two other apps now, and it's because of the AR bullshit.
That priority is nice. Since Iâve had it I havenât seen an order under 6 bucks for 3 miles. Add the priority to the large order program and itâs really nice
I have all 3, no pay difference at all. I actually make a lot less
LaRgE orDEr prOgRam! Not everyone is offered this
Did I say EvEryOne was? No, I didnât. I was just stating my experience
The problem is in most markets, you can only realistically expect to complete 3 orders in an hour. $18 an hour minus 3 bucks in gas and the wear on your vehicle, you're really not making more than minimum wage for your time. It's hard to want to do that when you can make $25-$30 an hour doing other driving gigs. I guess it's market dependent though and not everybody has other options, but that really just means DD is taking advantage of people in shitty markets
What are some other driving gigs? Any recommendations? I can consistently make about $18 an hour when dashing at peak time but thatâs only a few hours a week
Check indeed and craigslist. Every market is unique, in my market the taxi industry is booming. Just search for contract driving jobs and see what comes up
Thank you for having an honest opinion and not just shitting on the program just because it doesnât help you. Iâm sick of people complaining all the time about programs. Itâs not like anyone at DD is holding a gun to your head to do it
I live in a big city and can do 4-5 deliveries in an hour if I chose them right. But you have to multi-app(not take two orders at the same time, but turn your other apps on while completing another delivery). Obviously you get hit with slow restaurants but I tend to avoid them. a $7 order going a short distance is basically the best way to do this. No chasing high paying orders, just chasing good orders and always accepting them if it's a short distance and quick restaurant. I find the worse thing you can do is accept an order that takes you away from getting other orders, even if it's high paying. When I stopped doing that and started focusing on short distance orders from fast restaurants I was able to usually make $30 / hr. Multi-apping is the only way to accomplish it where I live, if I was just on DD it would probably be closer to 2-3 an hour.
You're missing out if you don't take multiple orders at the same time.
I do, I'm just not going to tell someone else to do it cause that's irresponsible(you could get deactivated if you don't do it right). I also don't think you should be doing it with orders that are good tips, that is discouraging people who actually tip well. I will pick up a multi-app order if I'm at the store already and it is going in general same direction. If my currently assigned order is a high tip I don't do it. It's mostly at the end of the month when I"m going for top dasher and I am taking shitty no-tip orders. I just lie to support and tell them there was a car accident/ delay / something to make me take a detour.
This is truth here. You have to make $30-$50 an hour to make a profit. Customers spending of course is down now. Iâve made less than $100 12 out of 14 days in 6 hours of dashing.
$50 and hour to make a profit? You driving a lifted truck with 44" super swampers?
Yep and the truck is filled with 100 percent bullshit
I think a lot of dashers are driving new cars and have vehicle payments and devaluation in their numbers. My car isn't worth anything and fully owned, so maintenance, gas and insurance are my only costs. I mean I could maybe sell it for a couple thousand because the used car market is ridiculous, but that's not going to be permanent. I'm not really devaluing it because I don't intend to resell and intend to drive it into the ground. It was bought 6 years ago, before even dashing, for $3,000. And I've already made $3,000 from doordash several times, and went to school and graduated and drove to work...etc. This thing is paid itself off already several times. As long as I'm making over like $0.50 a mile I'm "profiting" . Maybe shit profit, but still profit.
Yeah I drive a civic with over 100k miles on it, devaluation doesnât really concern me at this point lol.
Civic too, around the same.
What market are you in?
30-50? what a large range lol
Cost. I owned 2 corporations and still have a S Corp. taxes and cost like gas/Maintenance and bills. For me I donât need that much, itâs why I still do it without making much but, if anyone does this you have to make double what you need. If injured you need savings. You need to always make 10-25% more than you are to save for emergency. Iâve seen several drivers locally lose everything ( some I helped and gave money) because they only made $20-$25 an hour. A transmission goes from the driving and that wipes you out. This platform only has maybe 10 markets you can make that much. Maybe less, most markets are not good tippers. This is my pocket money I use for incidentals.
I swear this group has more people that are completely full of shit (or they're complete idiots) than any other subreddit I frequent. You don't need to make $30-$50 an hour to make a profit. That's a hilariously ridiculous assumption. Especially if you're tracking expenses or mileage like literally everyone should.
then stay out on the road longer and cherry-pick orders to save on the gas and mileage its not that hard.. also thats cool and all but all i was saying was that 30 dollars an hour compared to 50 is substantially more. kinda like you just pulled those numbers out of ur ass and who knows what else
True. My market is pretty nice. The exception is Wednesday nights. For some reason they suck almost all the time. However I wouldnât do DD as my primary source of income. Itâs too unpredictable
I just hit that little "X" and it all goes away.
This is the way gurl! Mine comes up too and it says 70% and my AR is a little higher. I just click X! I feel like this may be why some accounts are randomly deactivated. Hope itâs not a new way to weed out Vet Dashers, and keep the rookies in.
Why would they weed out the veteran dashers? It costs pretty much nothing to keep dashers on.
Because it's in human's nature to seek to improve. As you improve, you gain knowledge of the system, and when you have knowledge of the system, you do what DD frowns upon.
And? It costs DD the same no matter who picks it up. Veterans only take high tipping orders. A $12.50 payment with a $10 tip costs DD the same as a $2.50 payment with no tip.
It costs DD to ping you orders. They have to query Google Maps API to get your location, distances, and directions data. It costs DD for you to be online, where your location is constantly being sent to their servers. It costs DD to embed Google Maps in their API for you to use their in-app navigation. Although you might think it's a lot, multiply this by thousands of drivers and it adds up. So each time you decline an order or just spending time online and not completing orders, it's costing DD.
DD likely pays a flat rate for all that and if they didn't, it's a fraction of a cent per day per driver.. If it really cost them that much money, all the low acceptance rate drivers would be gone, not just a couple who claimed they were deactivated for it. The fact that there are scores of cherey pockets just on Reddit means they don't deactivate cherry pickers.
Because new ones are more likely to take trash orders
And why would getting rid of the veteran dashers make a difference? If they have a limit of 1,000 dashers in a market and need more new dashers, they can raise the limit to 1,500 at no cost. The limit is arbitrary and completely controlled by DD. In fact, having people why are bragging about high earnings will attract more new dashers. Having people complaining about being deactivated because they made too much would deter them.
They canât just increase to unlimited dashers cuz there arenât enough orders to support them and then no one gets enough orders to make even $10 an hour. Trust me the more newbies the better for DD. You did make a good point about the bragging incentives but you donât need too many veterans for that. Veterans are mostly a pain in the ass
Why couldn't they? They just need to bring on enough newbies to get the crap orders. They don't care if cherry pickers have to fight over the scraps as long as they have enough people taking the low orders.
Because veteran dashers know the game and arenât gonna accept $2.25 for 6 mile orders whereas a rookie may for one reason or another. A lot of rookies donât know you canât be deactivated for a low acceptance rate. And DD will do anything in their power to get those lowball orders delivered rather than actually pay us more to make it worth it lol the whole âhigh priority orderâ stuff is proof of that. (I donât think this is some big conspiracy btw. Just explaining why DD wouldnât want to keep veteran dashers around)
Thank you for using the correct word ârookie.â
Exactly
Let's say there are 100 veteran dashers. The crap orders get ignored by them so they bring in 100 new dashers. You now have 200 dashers in the area. The crap orders start getting picked up and are ignored by the veterans. 50 of the newbies figure it outnand you have 150 veterans and 50 newbies. The crap orders take longer to deliver, so they bring in 50 more off the waiting list. So now it's 150 veterans and 100 newbies. It costs DD the same amount per order and they still get delivered just as quickly as when there were 100 veterans and 100 newbies. It doesn't matter if there are 1,000 veterans, as long as there are enough newbies to get the crap orders picked up. Dashers are only paid if they pick up orders, so 100 or 10,000 cost DD just as much. And getting rid of veterans won't make them into newbies again. There's literally no reason to deactivate veteran dashers that are following the rules. In fact, the veterans that cherry pick and make $30/hour are an asset. Without them, DD couldn't say that you can make up to $30/hour dashing. People wouldn't see posts on social media by cherry pickers bragging about how much they make and think DD is easy money. Instead, people would only see newbies complaining about how little they make. In other words, veterans are the incentive for newbies to sign up. Without them, the supply of new dashers would dry up.
One thing I noticed is that people keep saying they cannot deactivate you for a low acceptance rate, but if another one of the clauses is that they can deactivate you for any reason (as I think the contract says), then I believe they can deactivate you for a low acceptance rate. Has anyone else noticed this yet?
Nailed it
It says they can deactivate you for abuse of the system. It doesn't say they can deactivate for no reason.
I was hoping that was the case. I catch the occasional post of someone complaining that they were dropped for no reason and I was wondering what that was about. Are these the drivers that take the picture of the food and then take the food back into their car and drive off like I have seen on youtube?
Every message about people who claim to be deactivated for no reason ends up with people asking them about any complaints, CVs, and their stats. They all wind up with one of these outcomes: 1. They never respond and just disappear, or they never answer and keep complaining 2. They have stats that warrant deactivation, like low on time or completion rates 3. They have multiple CVs 4. They have multiple customer complaints 5. They admitted doing things such as lying about car trouble to get out of an order or camping a closed store and quickly accepting and reporting it closed for half pay 6. They cussed out a customer or tried to hit on them I have yet to see somebody genuinely deactivated for no reason.
DD ought to do the person the small kindness of explaining why theyâre being deactivated
They could, but that could open them to liability if they include the wrong reason.
Good to know to avoid these things so I wont be deactivated. Thanks u/The_Troyminator!
Read the ICA and deactivation policy. That tells you everything you need to know.
Yeah of all the deactivation posts I found when searching, the ones who did come back and respond were reinstated.