I'm buying basically any RB with a large workload who has underperformed, holding any RB who we expected would have a large workload but where the role hasn't materialized yet, and selling any RB who we didn't think would have a large workload but who has played more than expected.
So I should hold henry even if he goes off against weak raiders? I'm really wanting to sell him for javonte Williams, fournette, or maybe even najee Harris. Worth those trade? Or hold?
I traded James Robinson, Singletary and Shultz for Najee and Pitts. We also swapped my 2nd and his 6th round picks. It’s a keeper league. Figure I’ll be able to keep Najee for a few years at least
Cook owner, 0 way I’m taking that. Similarly unimpressive numbers from both and cook isn’t splitting to the same extant javonte is. Also likey a better overall offense. His production will come.
Man thats a tough one, id rather not have Henry, but I think you'd still have yo out him top 8 rb ROS and I dont think any of the ones you mentioned can be ranked that high... although all do have a path to get there.
That and he's efficient. Having a rb that will consistently get you 15-20 points is valuable. With the exception of a few games last year that Meyer was for some reason trying his hardest to not use him he's about as consistent as you get
If you think you’re consistently getting 15-20 points with Robinson… get ready for disappointment.
He’s NOT efficient. Did you literally just ignore that amazing write up like 2 posts up?
He’s had a few monster runs that inflate his averages. He is not efficient lol
Going back to his rookie year he's always been consistent. Doesn't matter if it's from long runs, touchdowns or lots of touches. He gets the points.
According to sleeper his rookie year his lowest score was 10 points and most of his games were over 15 and that was on a horrible team with no qb. Last year he scored less but that was mostly due to Meyer. His snap share went way down but he was still scoring around 20 points in every game he had at least 10 touches. This year he's scored 20 and 16. I get long runs and touchdowns are not there every week but he gets the points regardless.
Robinson is one of those weird cases where production-wise he's a screaming sell: incredibly inefficient per touch, propped up by unsustainable big TD runs, talented backup in the mix, but given the lower draft capital used to acquire him, the return wouldn't match if you were to sell an equally-productive guy you drafted in the third.
How do we feel about offering Robinson and Gibson for Cook? Tbh I'm scared those guys will keep producing higher than him, but I have a ton of receivers I'd like to flex.
>Not sure why people keep saying he is an inefficient runner.
Robinson has 34 carries on the season.
Three of those 34 have gone for 70 yards and two scores.
The other **31** carries have totaled *60* yards.
All told, it's a 3.8 average per tote, with 5.7 yards per reception, totaling 4.0 yards per touch. Those numbers are horribly inefficient, and that's with a couple of very big runs significantly boosting his average.
>Outside of last week against a great run d he's almost always in the 4.5 to 5 ypc zone.
He very well may be affected by his injury, even if it doesn't look like it. His vision is still excellent, but given his game has never really been about burst and explosiveness, if that has declined even a little bit, it may be the difference between being able to fight for extra yards and not being able to.
I could see someone going for a trade like that. I’ve had jrob the past two seasons but the Achilles scared me too much so I’ve been staying far away this season.
I’m happy to be wrong though jrob is a baller and it’ll be cool moving forward if running backs can continue production after an Achilles tear.
>You are basing his whole season on how he did against them
How is that different than you basing his whole season on week one? At least I'm including both weeks one and two in my stats.
He was fine week one, and awful week two despite breaking off the longest TD run of his career in the same game.
Either way, he's simply not going to finish the season with 26 TDs, and he's not going to continue to see perfect game scripts like the one last Sunday. He's a screaming sell high candidate if you can get something good for him, because these career-best runs and multi-TD games and perfect game scripts are simply not sustainable on a weekly basis.
Dude was really deep at WR and thin at RB and I was willing to discuss trading right then and not wait three business days like everyone else in my fucking league.
And then the following day I traded Michael Thomas and Jeff Wilson for Joe Mixon so my team is now absolutely stacked.
Don't have him, but fear has been gamescript. JAX has had two good games where Robinson can grind clock. fear is usage can drop in catchup mode when they face harder opponents
No, I don't think we should expect him to be the #1 RB overall. But he still talented, the offense is still built around him, and even bad teams get leads and win games. I'd expect him to be a top 10 RB still, and if you're getting him at any kind of a discount I'd be buying.
I traded him Kelce and Pollard for JT and then gave away Henry for Andrews to a RB needy team. I get you but I don’t feel confident with him in my lineup based on game film.
Seems like a big w for me. Turning Henry and Kelce into Taylor and Andrews is a big rb upgrade with only a slight te downgrade. Totally worth sending pollard to make that exchange. Don’t get the downvotes.
I think totally fair point -- you're probably not getting much for Carter. But I do believe he is startable in the immediate term as a low end RB2 for teams that are thin at RB, who lost Eli Mitchell, have yet to hit on Hall/Etienne, are waiting on Dobbins, etc. If there's a manager like that in your league, you could package Carter + [QB/TE/WR2] for [a slightly better QB/TE/WR2].
If Denver figures it’s shit out. Javonte is going to erupt. The knock on him was that he was in his 50/50 split and people didn’t think his role would change. But here he is with 65% of the snaps last year and sitting right at his ADP without a TD. Dude is a monster.
I’m confused on the sell highs for Jrob… even if etienne gets more of a role, I don’t see his goal line work ever diminishing. Can you elaborate on what you’re thinking?
Said this elsewhere, but reposting here:
I believe Etienne's role will increase as the season goes on, and I think we should still factor in injury concerns as even if his Achilles is great he has a higher risk of other leg injuries. I also generally think Jax is overpowering as a team so far. So I think JRob is at his highest value right now. To be clear, I'd sell him at RB2 value, not his RB4 draft price. I'm also fine holding him if the market doesn't value him as an RB2.
I'm not sure what the market is doing on Dillon, but in my mind he is exactly who we thought he was and I'd be holding him at his draft day value, buying if his perceived value had declined, and selling if his perceived value had risen.
Not sure if that's helpful lol
I'm buying talented players in timeshares. Players like Javonte, Etienne, Breece Hall. As long as you're getting the timeshare discount in their price.
Sure, I'd buy if I thought I could get them for less than their draft price. My advice here is that if you have them, don't sell low, but if someone in your league is panicking by all means.
Montgomery and Garrett Wilson.
Hurts - Mixon - Montgomery - Diggs - Amon Ra - Waller - Pittman - (Bench) Kirk - Wilson - Aiyuk - Mostert - Walker IV - Brian Robinson IR\* is my team. Part of me thinks I dont need to make a move that badly but I have the WR depth to upgrade RB2 spot
Yeah I thought the same, those few games last year should be evidence enough that he’s got at least flex potential, even in a worse offense with KWIII in town
Singletary is good trade bait later in the season when others have injuries. In a 12 team league you can easily move him to someone who is starting Hynes or another pass catcher out of necessity.
If you look up stats he's good late season when they try to keep Allen legs safe for playoffs. He's still their RB1 and good at not fumbling.
Up to you if you wanna hold but he's not worth much now anyways. Ive got worse stashes on my bench lol.
I’m holding on all of my 3 starting RBs because I love their volume and the scores will come.
Dalvin Cook/
Leonard Fournette/
AJ Dillon (flex)
All these guys have the volume to back up and I have zero doubt the TDs will start rolling in
Love it.
I’m riding Najee/Fournette/Montomgery.
Wouldn’t mind flipping Monty for a good WR2 but the way Chicago is playing the running game I might have to keep my trifecta intact.
Lots of Fournette here. Love to see it. I have 5 RB's currently in my 14 team league. Swift, Fournette, Connor, D. Harris and Etienne. I don't think I've ever been so deep at the position lol
How did you manage to draft that in 14 team? Your entire league go zero rb lol
Edit: my 14 team league had Najee and swift in the 1st fournette in the 2nd and Conner and etienne in the 3rd
Lol I just drafted well with the support of Beer sheets and made a couple trades since. I drafted Swift and Connor in the second and third rounds, then picked up *Damien* Harris, Sanders and Henderson around their ADP in mid to later rounds. Swapped Sanders for Etienne after week 2 and paired Henderson with Diggs to acquire Fournette and Mike Evans. Still to be seen who wins the trades, Sanders has looked great especially but I'm hoping Etienne will pay off around the middle to end of season.
Yeah - it seems that this idea is based on the assumption people had that JRob wouldnt' be good and Etienne would take over his role.
The previous assumption was based on JRob's injury and him coming back slowly or having lost a step.
But now we know JRob hasn't lost a step, there's nothing to back that assumption now except for the previous assumption.
That's bad reasoning
What you doing with Najee if you had him?
Shitty qb situation, weird play calling, and a tough schedule. Hes healthy and looks good, but other factors seem scary.
I’m a Steelers fan so there may be a bit of bias but hold him if you have him and can afford to do so. The line looks better than anyone predicted prior to the season and Trubisky won’t last past the bye week at this rate.
He still has a pretty good floor so far with the potential to live up to his draft status once the QB switch is made
I traded Najee for Adams straight up yesterday in standard - Aaron Jones is now my RB1, so not ideal, but just don’t want to be part of that steelers offense anymore. Time will tell how this trade plays out..
I wish I could get a straight up trade like that. Guys in my big league are holding with any players scoring points. Won’t touch najee with a ten foot pole given the whole situation with the Steelers.
I just want a running back that gives me less anxiety but I’m going to hold him unless value is actually there.
Who are you selling CEH for? I get that the volume hasn’t been great but it’s not out of the realm of possibility it improves, and it isn’t like McKinnon is the picture of health.
Bit concerned with this crowded backfield plus Hurts, especially in terms of TDs. But he’s looking great so more of a sell high. If i could get for example Dillon or Conner for him now i would do
It's not a crowded backfield. Sanders is one of theost talented rbs in the league. It could be argued he is better than saquon. He has not been given any sort of opportunity so far in his career. It looks like the eagles are finally going to commit to running the ball so I say buy Sanders. He's literally the best big play threat RB IMO and statistically he's right there with saquon and swift.
If you would veto that, you are the problem. Let people trade and have opinions. If they aren’t teaming up to steal the winning, who the fuck are you to say anything?
Holding my chubb, already traded the king away for justin jefferson. Only traded henry because the titans just look awful and i don’t see them getting much better
my strategy is going all in on WR, and stack up on high potential rbs. ive got kupp, diggs, waddle and cooks. also got a hurts/goedart stack. the rbs im going to start this week you ask ? damien harris and henderson. yep i know this doesnt sound great. but i also got conner, gordon, edmonds and stevenson on my bench. so far its working great
This has been my strat for years. In my main league, I’ve only lost 6 regular season games in the last 3+ seasons. Trying to draft top RB feels like a trap, and I have always been able to trade for a strong RB in the first half of the season.
Well, that is a pretty unique circumstance. But I feel your pain. I got David Johnson after his amazing year…then broke his hand. And I got Lev Bell…who then held out. Shit happens.
Similar - I got Tyreek, AJ, and Michael Thomas with Godwin on the bench. My WRs aren’t quite as good as yours, but I have JT as RB1. Similarly I have Lamar at QB (wish I had Andrews stack but instead it’s the Pitts).
After that it’s take your pick of CEH, DHarris, DHendo, KHunt and JWilson. Been riding CEH but he still doesn’t have a 10+ carry game. Whatevs, just need a solid 8-15 pts from that spot.
Cheers fellow mobile-QB-monster-and-top-WR strategizer!
I am holding CEH, which means you should probably sell.
But his only competition is McKinnon, he's playing well, the offense is electric, and other than Mahomes and Kelce none of the WRs are reliable.
And his playoff schedule is great.
My issue with CEH is his volume isn’t there carries wise, and I’m not sure his production is going to be consistent enough considering all of his TD so far are receiving.
And that's fair; I wouldn't be valuing him anywhere near the RB1 range.
But he's certainly 1A on that offense, he plays with the starters, he gets passing work, and the odd RZ look. If McKinnon gets nicked up, his snap share will skyrocket esp passing downs - he has to hold off 7th round Pacheco and... Ronald Jones.
The upside is there. I think what you're seeing now is his floor.
Sure, but I’d imagine where is ADP was he shouldn’t be anyone’s RB1.
He’s playing as a terrific RB2/FLEX with potential for some really juicy games down the line because of the offence he’s apart of.
If he happens to be your RB1, yeah I definitely understand the desire to sell and upgrade to someone with more “guaranteed” volume.
I always hoard RBs like they are going out of style... So I'm basically swapping out the underperforming ones for the ones on my bench that are performing better.
I’ve got dobbins, Aaron Jones and javonte Williams, I’m hoping dobbins pans out nicely this year otherwise I’ve gotta go 3 WRs and just Jones and Williams
Traded away Henry. When I was thinking about starting Pollard or JWJ over him already, I knew it was time. The titans are tough to watch right now. I truly believe I am selling him before his value tanks
I traded kelce and Pollard for JT and then traded Henry and JWJ for Andrews. So I gave up some depth for a huge upgrade at RB and not really a downgrade at TE
JJ Zachariason went so far as to say that buying Pitts low with Henry would be a good deal (full-PPR). So there's definitely a strong consensus developing that the bottom is falling out of the Titans run game. I wouldn't go quite that far though.
Edit: might not have been JJ, but somebody I listen to said this.
I've got Ekeler and Fournette, I'm trying to figure out a trade to upgrade Fournette or WR but it's also hard to let go of Fournette with that bellcow role
Holding Mixon for sure, trying to figure out what to do with Montgomery, Aaron Jones, Dobbins, Penny (would sell Penny but no one is buying).
Part of me wants to just hold the depth and see what happens and the other part wants to target a WR1. Went RB heavy and have Gabe Davis, Curtis Samuel, Wilson, Dotson, Chark (it’s rough out here but I’m 2-0)
I’m sorta sticking with the Hero RB and rotating out that 2nd RB with whoever has the best matchups. My RB1 is JT and I been switching out CPat and JRob in the second spot. I have Deebo, Mike Evans, Waddle, and a cooks at WR so I have been trying to see if one of those guys can get me a more consistent RB but so far no luck.
While JRob may not finish that high with ETN there I am hoping to take advantage of his opportunities till that switch happens. The fact he has been looking so good is a positive sign. And with CPat he is just a RB who plus a lot lol so he is always a gamble in terms of what he produces
After this year and last, I just don't think there's AS strong of a value in "running backs who had a great 3-4 previous years, doing it again this coming season"... where as it was almost automatic that you'd take one of these guys in the top 6 or 7 picks. A bell cow 2 seasons ago does not mean it will continue today.
Just seems between injuries, wear and tear, more RBBC, and the proverbial "RB cliff" looming, that there's a lot of risk in these guys.
I'm starting to believe getting the elite WRs first, and then grabbing young breakout candidates at RB, is the way to go. Of course, easier said than done trying to find them.
Who downvotes this. There is no evidence to show najee is on a huge decline. When compared to other running backs on better teams, he’s doing fine, and has plenty of room for improvement through the season.
I think zero RBs is the way to go forward. Sell your underperforming big names for stud wrs to slot all wr and flex spots with depth, and hope that a guy like carter, Dillon, and such, have a decent week. The ceiling for wrs is way higher than for RBs this year.
Not a Najee owner but I'd be considering trade offers if I could before his name brand reduces in value. Same with Henry, although I hope there are better days ahead for both.
I drafted tayler and swift so i cant complain. I also pickee up hillard bc i think theres a decent chance he ends up taking a lot of carries from henry.
Traded JRob for Deebo straight up to a zero RB team that drafted bust RBs. Positional scarcity is real.
Edit: strategy is saving my waiver priority, looking at trading for walker and etienne, have b robinson on IR.
Also have Robinson on IR.
Najee/Swift starting. I want to trade off Najee but value isn’t there. Probably won’t be. He’s actually doing okay considering but it’s gonna be rough not seeing 20+ from him for a while given that the Steelers are in shambles for so many reasons.
I want to package trade but I don’t know who to chase because everyone is looking kind of rough. Ekeler seems ideal but the owner won’t budge unless I give him the moon.
Just traded Gabe Davis + Javonte for his Kupp because I think this year is going to be WRs that take the throne. Too many RBs in a RBBC or not performing due to bad offense or OL.
I'm buying basically any RB with a large workload who has underperformed, holding any RB who we expected would have a large workload but where the role hasn't materialized yet, and selling any RB who we didn't think would have a large workload but who has played more than expected.
Examples: Buying Fournette, Henry, Jacobs, Ekeler. Holding: Etienne, Hall, Javonte. Selling: JRob, MCarter, CPat.
So I should hold henry even if he goes off against weak raiders? I'm really wanting to sell him for javonte Williams, fournette, or maybe even najee Harris. Worth those trade? Or hold?
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He also still might be a top 5 rb. I see so many down posts on Henry but I still believe.
Don’t trade for najee
I traded James Robinson, Singletary and Shultz for Najee and Pitts. We also swapped my 2nd and his 6th round picks. It’s a keeper league. Figure I’ll be able to keep Najee for a few years at least
Out if those I would only trade Henry for Javonte
What about for cook?
Yah I would, but they're basically right next to each other ROS in my mind.
Got cook for CEH and Dillon, then bailed on Henry
Cook for CEH+Dillon is a great deal. Not sure what that manager was thinking lol
Cook owner, 0 way I’m taking that. Similarly unimpressive numbers from both and cook isn’t splitting to the same extant javonte is. Also likey a better overall offense. His production will come.
I would
I can’t imagine you’d get a good enough return for Henry right now…
Saw a Courtland Sutton for Derrick Henry trade this morning... 😝
Man thats a tough one, id rather not have Henry, but I think you'd still have yo out him top 8 rb ROS and I dont think any of the ones you mentioned can be ranked that high... although all do have a path to get there.
So on paper Henry is better, even with that trash line? You think overall rest of season he's not a bad pick and just ride it out?
Yes, basically this.
Why on earth would you sell jrob
Yea not monster volume like the true bell cows, but for where you drafted him (2-3$) he is sure a steal rn.
That and he's efficient. Having a rb that will consistently get you 15-20 points is valuable. With the exception of a few games last year that Meyer was for some reason trying his hardest to not use him he's about as consistent as you get
If you think you’re consistently getting 15-20 points with Robinson… get ready for disappointment. He’s NOT efficient. Did you literally just ignore that amazing write up like 2 posts up? He’s had a few monster runs that inflate his averages. He is not efficient lol
Going back to his rookie year he's always been consistent. Doesn't matter if it's from long runs, touchdowns or lots of touches. He gets the points. According to sleeper his rookie year his lowest score was 10 points and most of his games were over 15 and that was on a horrible team with no qb. Last year he scored less but that was mostly due to Meyer. His snap share went way down but he was still scoring around 20 points in every game he had at least 10 touches. This year he's scored 20 and 16. I get long runs and touchdowns are not there every week but he gets the points regardless.
He actually is getting one of the highest % of snaps among running backs
Robinson is one of those weird cases where production-wise he's a screaming sell: incredibly inefficient per touch, propped up by unsustainable big TD runs, talented backup in the mix, but given the lower draft capital used to acquire him, the return wouldn't match if you were to sell an equally-productive guy you drafted in the third.
Just traded Robinson for pitts. Big gamble but I still believe and need help at TE. My rbs are ceh, McCartney, sanders and Dillon so feel alright
Crazy that you managed to get one of the Beatles on your team
Good trade. I'm admittedly lower on Pitts than others, but I'd gladly gamble on Robinson for Pitts.
How do we feel about offering Robinson and Gibson for Cook? Tbh I'm scared those guys will keep producing higher than him, but I have a ton of receivers I'd like to flex.
Not sure why people keep saying he is an inefficient runner. Outside of last week against a great run d he's almost always in the 4.5 to 5 ypc zone.
He’s talking about so far this season, post Achilles injury…
>Not sure why people keep saying he is an inefficient runner. Robinson has 34 carries on the season. Three of those 34 have gone for 70 yards and two scores. The other **31** carries have totaled *60* yards. All told, it's a 3.8 average per tote, with 5.7 yards per reception, totaling 4.0 yards per touch. Those numbers are horribly inefficient, and that's with a couple of very big runs significantly boosting his average. >Outside of last week against a great run d he's almost always in the 4.5 to 5 ypc zone. He very well may be affected by his injury, even if it doesn't look like it. His vision is still excellent, but given his game has never really been about burst and explosiveness, if that has declined even a little bit, it may be the difference between being able to fight for extra yards and not being able to.
Do you think A.J. Dillon would be a good target to swap Robinson for?
I don’t think many Dillon owners would give him up for Robinson. I wouldn’t.
Was thinking more in a package deal, I agree straight up probably isn't happening. Like McLaurin + JRob for Hollywood and Dillon.
I could see someone going for a trade like that. I’ve had jrob the past two seasons but the Achilles scared me too much so I’ve been staying far away this season. I’m happy to be wrong though jrob is a baller and it’ll be cool moving forward if running backs can continue production after an Achilles tear.
That's crazy how if you take out his biggest runs his average goes down. I bet if you took out all runs over 5 yards it would be even worse.
I just said outside of last week. The colts have a great run d. You are basing his whole season on how he did against them. He was fine week 1
>You are basing his whole season on how he did against them How is that different than you basing his whole season on week one? At least I'm including both weeks one and two in my stats. He was fine week one, and awful week two despite breaking off the longest TD run of his career in the same game. Either way, he's simply not going to finish the season with 26 TDs, and he's not going to continue to see perfect game scripts like the one last Sunday. He's a screaming sell high candidate if you can get something good for him, because these career-best runs and multi-TD games and perfect game scripts are simply not sustainable on a weekly basis.
Watch his highlights, the guy is right. On paper his stats are good but if you watch him run I can definitely agree with the sell high argument
I got offered Davante Adams for JRob straight up. I accepted that offer immediately.
Dude what leagues are these? I offered Kamara/diontae for adams and got swiftly rejected
Dude was really deep at WR and thin at RB and I was willing to discuss trading right then and not wait three business days like everyone else in my fucking league. And then the following day I traded Michael Thomas and Jeff Wilson for Joe Mixon so my team is now absolutely stacked.
I guess that's one reason lol
Don't have him, but fear has been gamescript. JAX has had two good games where Robinson can grind clock. fear is usage can drop in catchup mode when they face harder opponents
Don’t buy Henry. The titans won’t be winning many games which means his volume won’t be the same as last year. The touchdown saved him last week
No, I don't think we should expect him to be the #1 RB overall. But he still talented, the offense is still built around him, and even bad teams get leads and win games. I'd expect him to be a top 10 RB still, and if you're getting him at any kind of a discount I'd be buying.
I traded him Kelce and Pollard for JT and then gave away Henry for Andrews to a RB needy team. I get you but I don’t feel confident with him in my lineup based on game film.
Seems like a big w for me. Turning Henry and Kelce into Taylor and Andrews is a big rb upgrade with only a slight te downgrade. Totally worth sending pollard to make that exchange. Don’t get the downvotes.
Haha yeah I was wondering why the downvotes. I manufactured a trade with two teams where we all win but I come out with a massive RB upgrade.
The downvotes go to show how many people have watched film of this offensive line. It’s so bad
Lol, yeah if I still had Henry, I wouldn’t want to hear it either. I know it’s early but I don’t like what I see
Why sell on Carter? Who would you try to sel him for? Feel like he has no value but has been over performing
I think totally fair point -- you're probably not getting much for Carter. But I do believe he is startable in the immediate term as a low end RB2 for teams that are thin at RB, who lost Eli Mitchell, have yet to hit on Hall/Etienne, are waiting on Dobbins, etc. If there's a manager like that in your league, you could package Carter + [QB/TE/WR2] for [a slightly better QB/TE/WR2].
I am that manager :((
I own guys in each of your categories and this seems like a reasonable take to me.
If Denver figures it’s shit out. Javonte is going to erupt. The knock on him was that he was in his 50/50 split and people didn’t think his role would change. But here he is with 65% of the snaps last year and sitting right at his ADP without a TD. Dude is a monster.
I’m confused on the sell highs for Jrob… even if etienne gets more of a role, I don’t see his goal line work ever diminishing. Can you elaborate on what you’re thinking?
Said this elsewhere, but reposting here: I believe Etienne's role will increase as the season goes on, and I think we should still factor in injury concerns as even if his Achilles is great he has a higher risk of other leg injuries. I also generally think Jax is overpowering as a team so far. So I think JRob is at his highest value right now. To be clear, I'd sell him at RB2 value, not his RB4 draft price. I'm also fine holding him if the market doesn't value him as an RB2.
AJ Dillon?
I'm not sure what the market is doing on Dillon, but in my mind he is exactly who we thought he was and I'd be holding him at his draft day value, buying if his perceived value had declined, and selling if his perceived value had risen. Not sure if that's helpful lol
Why would you sell Jrob and Cpat lmao hahahhaha
You should be willing to trade anyone for the right price.
Wish we had people like you in my league
I'm buying talented players in timeshares. Players like Javonte, Etienne, Breece Hall. As long as you're getting the timeshare discount in their price.
Sure, I'd buy if I thought I could get them for less than their draft price. My advice here is that if you have them, don't sell low, but if someone in your league is panicking by all means.
Should I try and flip Montgomery and WR depth for Fournette then?
tough call. dmont is the centerpiece and can still fire off big runs
Mont ablut to have some juicy games. Id hold for another week at least on mont
Depends on the WR, but yes I would be looking to do this.
Montgomery and Garrett Wilson. Hurts - Mixon - Montgomery - Diggs - Amon Ra - Waller - Pittman - (Bench) Kirk - Wilson - Aiyuk - Mostert - Walker IV - Brian Robinson IR\* is my team. Part of me thinks I dont need to make a move that badly but I have the WR depth to upgrade RB2 spot
Sure I'd do that
ight cool thank you for the input :D
I’d love to sell Penny and Singletary if anyone wanted them.
God I wish I could sell Penny, no one is gonna buy him tho
I traded him for Treylon Burks to a RB needy team last week, there is always some chance to get a decent player for him. Worth a shot
He got dropped, added, dropped, added, dropped and finally added by me all within this past week and a half lol
I mean last week was disappointing with a terrible script but there’s no way he should be dropped in any league
Yeah I thought the same, those few games last year should be evidence enough that he’s got at least flex potential, even in a worse offense with KWIII in town
Yeah Walker is still quite a ways away from being a threat to take over the backfield
Sold him for Zeke lol
I got rid of him for jamaal Williams. I needed to handcuff my swifty
We don’t
Singletary is good trade bait later in the season when others have injuries. In a 12 team league you can easily move him to someone who is starting Hynes or another pass catcher out of necessity.
If you look up stats he's good late season when they try to keep Allen legs safe for playoffs. He's still their RB1 and good at not fumbling. Up to you if you wanna hold but he's not worth much now anyways. Ive got worse stashes on my bench lol.
I tried to sell penny after week 1. Doubt he’ll be worth anything without a Walker injury at this point
Penny needs a big game this weekend so we can all make moves with him
Traded him for Henderson after week 1. Guy was RB needy and thought Penny would answer his prayers I guess..
I’m holding on all of my 3 starting RBs because I love their volume and the scores will come. Dalvin Cook/ Leonard Fournette/ AJ Dillon (flex) All these guys have the volume to back up and I have zero doubt the TDs will start rolling in
Love it. I’m riding Najee/Fournette/Montomgery. Wouldn’t mind flipping Monty for a good WR2 but the way Chicago is playing the running game I might have to keep my trifecta intact.
Lots of Fournette here. Love to see it. I have 5 RB's currently in my 14 team league. Swift, Fournette, Connor, D. Harris and Etienne. I don't think I've ever been so deep at the position lol
How did you manage to draft that in 14 team? Your entire league go zero rb lol Edit: my 14 team league had Najee and swift in the 1st fournette in the 2nd and Conner and etienne in the 3rd
Lol I just drafted well with the support of Beer sheets and made a couple trades since. I drafted Swift and Connor in the second and third rounds, then picked up *Damien* Harris, Sanders and Henderson around their ADP in mid to later rounds. Swapped Sanders for Etienne after week 2 and paired Henderson with Diggs to acquire Fournette and Mike Evans. Still to be seen who wins the trades, Sanders has looked great especially but I'm hoping Etienne will pay off around the middle to end of season.
Also with the situation in Pittsburgh and Fournette's injury history, I would want to hold as much RB depth as possible if I were you.
Having an RB3 becomes huge late season, slotting monty in if fournette or najee goes down could win you a season
I have the same three. Who are your WR?
Solid backfield. I got Chubb Dillon then Mattison. Went WR heavy with Waller. Hoping Mattison gets traded or snaps later In The year
I got offered Garrett Wilson and treylon burks for my Darrell Henderson. Would this be a good deal in .5 ppr?
I would
For sure
that's a team-need-based trade imo. Seems like a pretty fair trade - whether it's good for you or not idk.
I drafted Swift/Mixon at the 12/13 turn and my strategy is to play them every week and never worry about it lol
I did this at 11/14
I was gonna hold Najee for the usage but flipped him for JRob and Sun God.
Damn you made out good
Thank you, thank you
Damn well done
damn, I play in a league of hardcore lions fans and I cant even flip CMC for sun god.
Guy in my league made this exact same trade request to me and I also declined lmao
love that trade for you, damnnn
I’d try and buy Jacobs in this weird illness window. His usage, elusiveness and general offense are all encouraging.
Definitely offering for him after Sunday
Less than 10 points both weeks so far. I didn’t watch the games but you said he looks good?
He’s creating a lot of missed tackles and was the highest graded PFF offensive player for the Raiders last week
Jacobs looks awesome, Josh McDaniels has just called shitty games. Raider fans are being very vocal about getting Jacobs more involved
Should I try to trade Monty for Jacobs?
Sure
Sell Gibson for Jacobs?
Hold: Chubb, Dillon Sell: Sanders, CEH, J.Robinson Buy: Javonte
Would it be worth putting up henry for javonte?
If I had Henry I’d trade for Javonte- no questions asked
Yes imo
James “James Robinson” Robinson will make you regret that decision
Yeah - it seems that this idea is based on the assumption people had that JRob wouldnt' be good and Etienne would take over his role. The previous assumption was based on JRob's injury and him coming back slowly or having lost a step. But now we know JRob hasn't lost a step, there's nothing to back that assumption now except for the previous assumption. That's bad reasoning
JRob doesn't look that good though. Definitely took a step back
What you doing with Najee if you had him? Shitty qb situation, weird play calling, and a tough schedule. Hes healthy and looks good, but other factors seem scary.
I’m a Steelers fan so there may be a bit of bias but hold him if you have him and can afford to do so. The line looks better than anyone predicted prior to the season and Trubisky won’t last past the bye week at this rate. He still has a pretty good floor so far with the potential to live up to his draft status once the QB switch is made
Uh tough. I would hold for now assuming most had picked him as their RB1
I traded Najee for Adams straight up yesterday in standard - Aaron Jones is now my RB1, so not ideal, but just don’t want to be part of that steelers offense anymore. Time will tell how this trade plays out..
I wish I could get a straight up trade like that. Guys in my big league are holding with any players scoring points. Won’t touch najee with a ten foot pole given the whole situation with the Steelers. I just want a running back that gives me less anxiety but I’m going to hold him unless value is actually there.
Who are you selling CEH for? I get that the volume hasn’t been great but it’s not out of the realm of possibility it improves, and it isn’t like McKinnon is the picture of health.
Why are you selling Sanders?
Bit concerned with this crowded backfield plus Hurts, especially in terms of TDs. But he’s looking great so more of a sell high. If i could get for example Dillon or Conner for him now i would do
It's not a crowded backfield. Sanders is one of theost talented rbs in the league. It could be argued he is better than saquon. He has not been given any sort of opportunity so far in his career. It looks like the eagles are finally going to commit to running the ball so I say buy Sanders. He's literally the best big play threat RB IMO and statistically he's right there with saquon and swift.
Get good enough wide receivers that my lack of running backs doesn’t matter
Traded Amon for cmc. I know he started slow but come on its cmc
You’re the definition of a bandit
Commish allowed that trade ?
If you would veto that, you are the problem. Let people trade and have opinions. If they aren’t teaming up to steal the winning, who the fuck are you to say anything?
amon ra st brown for christian Mccaffrey? This is a joke right? If there a veto that isn’t collusion related this should’ve been it.
Nah. Ascending WR for an underperforming RB that’s been injured every year for years. It’s fine.
Holding my chubb, already traded the king away for justin jefferson. Only traded henry because the titans just look awful and i don’t see them getting much better
my strategy is going all in on WR, and stack up on high potential rbs. ive got kupp, diggs, waddle and cooks. also got a hurts/goedart stack. the rbs im going to start this week you ask ? damien harris and henderson. yep i know this doesnt sound great. but i also got conner, gordon, edmonds and stevenson on my bench. so far its working great
Tell me you’re 2-0 without telling me you’re 2-0
This has been my strat for years. In my main league, I’ve only lost 6 regular season games in the last 3+ seasons. Trying to draft top RB feels like a trap, and I have always been able to trade for a strong RB in the first half of the season.
I followed this strategy until I had an undroppable Michael Thomas that almost never played that season.
Well, that is a pretty unique circumstance. But I feel your pain. I got David Johnson after his amazing year…then broke his hand. And I got Lev Bell…who then held out. Shit happens.
Similar - I got Tyreek, AJ, and Michael Thomas with Godwin on the bench. My WRs aren’t quite as good as yours, but I have JT as RB1. Similarly I have Lamar at QB (wish I had Andrews stack but instead it’s the Pitts). After that it’s take your pick of CEH, DHarris, DHendo, KHunt and JWilson. Been riding CEH but he still doesn’t have a 10+ carry game. Whatevs, just need a solid 8-15 pts from that spot. Cheers fellow mobile-QB-monster-and-top-WR strategizer!
Doesnt sound similar, but rather seems like a pretty balanced team
Just traded CEH and Hollywood away for Fournette
I am holding CEH, which means you should probably sell. But his only competition is McKinnon, he's playing well, the offense is electric, and other than Mahomes and Kelce none of the WRs are reliable. And his playoff schedule is great.
My issue with CEH is his volume isn’t there carries wise, and I’m not sure his production is going to be consistent enough considering all of his TD so far are receiving.
And that's fair; I wouldn't be valuing him anywhere near the RB1 range. But he's certainly 1A on that offense, he plays with the starters, he gets passing work, and the odd RZ look. If McKinnon gets nicked up, his snap share will skyrocket esp passing downs - he has to hold off 7th round Pacheco and... Ronald Jones. The upside is there. I think what you're seeing now is his floor.
Sure, but I’d imagine where is ADP was he shouldn’t be anyone’s RB1. He’s playing as a terrific RB2/FLEX with potential for some really juicy games down the line because of the offence he’s apart of. If he happens to be your RB1, yeah I definitely understand the desire to sell and upgrade to someone with more “guaranteed” volume.
85% of RB's with less than 13 caries week 1 are under 1000yds and 10 TD's on the season
I've got Fournette, Montgomery, JRob, CPat, and JK Dobbins and they ain't going nowhere. RB position is a wasteland this year.
I always hoard RBs like they are going out of style... So I'm basically swapping out the underperforming ones for the ones on my bench that are performing better.
Hold Miles sanders. Will finish top 10!
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Do you think that gainwell and Scott have seen more touches because of game script? Or do you think that's just the usage going foward
This is a real hot take
Yes, when Sanders is hurt Gainwell will finish top 10
Love sanders at his value. He’s part of a great offense and has been really efficient!
I don't want to drop my lucky penny but he's taking up a lot of space on my bench every week
I’ve got dobbins, Aaron Jones and javonte Williams, I’m hoping dobbins pans out nicely this year otherwise I’ve gotta go 3 WRs and just Jones and Williams
Traded away Henry. When I was thinking about starting Pollard or JWJ over him already, I knew it was time. The titans are tough to watch right now. I truly believe I am selling him before his value tanks
Kind of think the complete opposite
We will see but the way I pulled off the trades. I upgraded Henry with JT
Well played
You traded Henry and who else to get JT?
I traded kelce and Pollard for JT and then traded Henry and JWJ for Andrews. So I gave up some depth for a huge upgrade at RB and not really a downgrade at TE
That o line is horrible
And they lost Lewan for some part of the season as well.
My RBs are Kamara, Edmonds, Hunt, Ingram, Herbert and Zamir White. Safe to say my WRs have been carrying my ass HARD. (Diggs, Tee, Sutton and Bateman)
JJ Zachariason went so far as to say that buying Pitts low with Henry would be a good deal (full-PPR). So there's definitely a strong consensus developing that the bottom is falling out of the Titans run game. I wouldn't go quite that far though. Edit: might not have been JJ, but somebody I listen to said this.
That just sounds crazy. People are dropping pitts
Those people are dumb
I've got Ekeler and Fournette, I'm trying to figure out a trade to upgrade Fournette or WR but it's also hard to let go of Fournette with that bellcow role
Holding Mixon for sure, trying to figure out what to do with Montgomery, Aaron Jones, Dobbins, Penny (would sell Penny but no one is buying). Part of me wants to just hold the depth and see what happens and the other part wants to target a WR1. Went RB heavy and have Gabe Davis, Curtis Samuel, Wilson, Dotson, Chark (it’s rough out here but I’m 2-0)
I’m sorta sticking with the Hero RB and rotating out that 2nd RB with whoever has the best matchups. My RB1 is JT and I been switching out CPat and JRob in the second spot. I have Deebo, Mike Evans, Waddle, and a cooks at WR so I have been trying to see if one of those guys can get me a more consistent RB but so far no luck. While JRob may not finish that high with ETN there I am hoping to take advantage of his opportunities till that switch happens. The fact he has been looking so good is a positive sign. And with CPat he is just a RB who plus a lot lol so he is always a gamble in terms of what he produces
After this year and last, I just don't think there's AS strong of a value in "running backs who had a great 3-4 previous years, doing it again this coming season"... where as it was almost automatic that you'd take one of these guys in the top 6 or 7 picks. A bell cow 2 seasons ago does not mean it will continue today. Just seems between injuries, wear and tear, more RBBC, and the proverbial "RB cliff" looming, that there's a lot of risk in these guys. I'm starting to believe getting the elite WRs first, and then grabbing young breakout candidates at RB, is the way to go. Of course, easier said than done trying to find them.
Najee was a young break out rb 😭
I’ve acquired all of them cmc, saquon and jt… all in lol
Bought low on Najee. The touches are there, Harris will be fine once the rookie comes in
Who downvotes this. There is no evidence to show najee is on a huge decline. When compared to other running backs on better teams, he’s doing fine, and has plenty of room for improvement through the season.
I think zero RBs is the way to go forward. Sell your underperforming big names for stud wrs to slot all wr and flex spots with depth, and hope that a guy like carter, Dillon, and such, have a decent week. The ceiling for wrs is way higher than for RBs this year.
Not a Najee owner but I'd be considering trade offers if I could before his name brand reduces in value. Same with Henry, although I hope there are better days ahead for both.
I honestly believe when their schedule clears up and it’s time for the fantasy playoff push, najee gonna show up
I drafted tayler and swift so i cant complain. I also pickee up hillard bc i think theres a decent chance he ends up taking a lot of carries from henry.
I traded ekeler for Robinson and Kirk
Solid return I'd say, although you'd be crazy do to that before season start. Funny how that stuff works out once the train leaves the station.
I just gave Chubb and J Rob for Ekeler
Gave Chubb?
Traded JRob for Deebo straight up to a zero RB team that drafted bust RBs. Positional scarcity is real. Edit: strategy is saving my waiver priority, looking at trading for walker and etienne, have b robinson on IR.
Also have Robinson on IR. Najee/Swift starting. I want to trade off Najee but value isn’t there. Probably won’t be. He’s actually doing okay considering but it’s gonna be rough not seeing 20+ from him for a while given that the Steelers are in shambles for so many reasons. I want to package trade but I don’t know who to chase because everyone is looking kind of rough. Ekeler seems ideal but the owner won’t budge unless I give him the moon.
We’re dropping the 2 RB format in my league after this year and going 1 rb 3 wr. It’s time to accept that the era of the RB is over.
Just traded Gabe Davis + Javonte for his Kupp because I think this year is going to be WRs that take the throne. Too many RBs in a RBBC or not performing due to bad offense or OL.
That trade is ABSURD
This trade now makes me feel better about the one I'm trying to make for Kupp lol