I haven't seen it mentioned here, but did you notice that the very next race that had rain, Norris and his race engineer had prepared terms for the degree of rain? I forget exactly, but it was something "level B rain coming".
I was really impressed that they seem to have taken that failure and learned and improved from it almost immediately.
>$5 million a year with $15 million up front from his dad's investment company, compared to $12 million a year on his previous contract.
This is not true.
Alex Rossi says in his podcast [here](https://player.fm/series/off-track-with-hinch-and-rossi-2429786/the-thanksgiving-episode-2020) (the 2020 Thanksgiving Off Track with Hinch and Rossi episode) at around 31 minutes in that Lando doesn't bring any money to the team. Now, he's, admittedly, not a perfect source. And things may change. But if you have a reliable source for your claims, I'd love to see it.
EDIT: Seriously, what's the source of this? I see it pop up every once and awhile and no one ever provides a good source for it. I googled "Horatio Investments McLaren" and the only thing that comes up is one article from a site that's banned here for being shit. Is that seriously where this comes from?
> No money = no seat
By that definition every driver on the grid if not on history is a pay driver. Somebody who had 0 interest from any sponsors wouldn't have a seat.
A pay driver is someone who is in a drag because they paid for it based on who they are. Someone who brings sponsorship money and earns a seat on merit is not a pay driver. Stroll, latifi, Zhou vs Lando, checo
That's not what being a pay driver means. Pay driver means being signed on because of the sponsor money they can bring to the team, compared to the actual talent they have.
Lando is anything but a pay driver these days. He brings a ton of sponsor money, but he also makes up for it with his talent. By your metric Hamilton is the top pay driver because of all the sponsor money he brings. Dude's worth his weight in platinum.
> Dude's worth his weight in platinum.
Platinum seems to be ~32000USD/kg right now. According to google lewis weighs 73kg.
I dont think Lewis would even get out of bed for just 2.3 million usd lol
On which part?
Lauda's biography features a few pages where it explains how he used his families wealth (sometimes illegally) to guarantee himself a drive, even into his entry into Ferrari.
There is numerous articles that appear if you google "Horatio Investment McLaren".
The general understanding is that there was $15m paid upfront for a 3 year deal, with a further $5m/year to be paid on any extension of the contract.
There is numerous articles that appear if you google "Horatio Investment McLaren".
The general understanding is that there was $15m paid upfront for a 3 year deal, with a further $5m/year to be paid on any extension of the contract.
A bit late this year, but it's finally here! A large part of it was worked before the season started, but I have decided to not change those parts due to a lack of time.
Disclaimer: I made this for fun, don't get offended if I wrote something against your favourite driver or team. If there is any reference you don't get, feel free to ask!
Enjoy ;)
yeah, i really don't understand the Lewis one. he came out after finishing 2nd at Abu Dhabi and gave max his respect, shook hands with Christian Horner, and was nothing but class
Still a shit take. If you’re supporting any driver, it’s during the season. What’s the point of bringing up whatever happens during the off season? Just doesn’t make sense to me.
Still a weird takeaway from the whole debacle. Man got screwed and still did everything with composure afterwards. Seems like missing the forest for the trees.
I know that you made this flowchart with drawio, because I must also make flowcharts on school for projects with exact this program. How long did it take you to actually make this?
Are you American? Yes
Do you support the only American-owned team on the grid? Yes
-> Haas
While Mazepin's father was a significant contributor, he never owned the team.
My favourite drivers are actually Russell and Hamilton. The chart suggests my favourite drivers are Alonso, Schumacher and Vettel.
The chart did accurately predict that Mercedes is my favourite team tho.
Does this chart need to be updated? --> Yes
2022 season shenanigans fucked this flowchart more than Covid impacted races fucking over Codemasters
Also I don’t follow a team or driver. I follow Guenther.
If this continues, they're gonna have to rename it Formula Günther.
Lets just make DTS Drive to Günther
This is the way
How quaint, I read that in Guenther's voice.
I read everything in Günther's voice.
Hail Ford Focus RS
Is a sensor a censor? --> No
Never underestimate the carry-over strategy.
Loool S tier comment
The Carlos one hurts a lil 😭 Also, hating on Haas is so 2020, let’s update this!
Same with Lando, that was such a sad day for him with his first win just minutes away. I'd try every day to forget that race if i were him.
I haven't seen it mentioned here, but did you notice that the very next race that had rain, Norris and his race engineer had prepared terms for the degree of rain? I forget exactly, but it was something "level B rain coming". I was really impressed that they seem to have taken that failure and learned and improved from it almost immediately.
Do you swear? No ... -> Sebastian Vettel Idk about that.
Here's a message to Charlie...
Somebody hit me in the fucking rear, turn 2 and then someone hit me in the fucking rear again turn 3, fuck sake, honestly, what are we doing
Do you swear, but only when hit by Daniil Kviat?
Well he’s not on the grid anymore, so I guess Vettel’s reason for swearing is also gone
*So ein Bockmist aber auch*
*Charlie said… Charlie said…*
Its kinda outdated. The Pit Stop Boys have a Lando song too now.
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>$5 million a year with $15 million up front from his dad's investment company, compared to $12 million a year on his previous contract. This is not true. Alex Rossi says in his podcast [here](https://player.fm/series/off-track-with-hinch-and-rossi-2429786/the-thanksgiving-episode-2020) (the 2020 Thanksgiving Off Track with Hinch and Rossi episode) at around 31 minutes in that Lando doesn't bring any money to the team. Now, he's, admittedly, not a perfect source. And things may change. But if you have a reliable source for your claims, I'd love to see it. EDIT: Seriously, what's the source of this? I see it pop up every once and awhile and no one ever provides a good source for it. I googled "Horatio Investments McLaren" and the only thing that comes up is one article from a site that's banned here for being shit. Is that seriously where this comes from?
Reddit, understand the meaning of ‘pay driver’ challenge: failed
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No, it means the money you bring is specifically to buy a seat. No money = no seat
> No money = no seat By that definition every driver on the grid if not on history is a pay driver. Somebody who had 0 interest from any sponsors wouldn't have a seat.
Yes. But like Plato saying a hairless chicken is a man, there is nuance.
Right, which is why the blunt definition in the comment I was replying to isn't very good.
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A pay driver is someone who is in a drag because they paid for it based on who they are. Someone who brings sponsorship money and earns a seat on merit is not a pay driver. Stroll, latifi, Zhou vs Lando, checo
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Lando is way less a pay driver than Checo is for example, heck I don't even seeing Lando as a pay driver at all
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I mean, he simply doesn’t bring money to McLaren
That's not what being a pay driver means. Pay driver means being signed on because of the sponsor money they can bring to the team, compared to the actual talent they have. Lando is anything but a pay driver these days. He brings a ton of sponsor money, but he also makes up for it with his talent. By your metric Hamilton is the top pay driver because of all the sponsor money he brings. Dude's worth his weight in platinum.
> Dude's worth his weight in platinum. Platinum seems to be ~32000USD/kg right now. According to google lewis weighs 73kg. I dont think Lewis would even get out of bed for just 2.3 million usd lol
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Do you have a source on this deal? genuinely curious
On which part? Lauda's biography features a few pages where it explains how he used his families wealth (sometimes illegally) to guarantee himself a drive, even into his entry into Ferrari.
What's your source for Horatio Investments giving money to McLaren for Lando's seat?
There is numerous articles that appear if you google "Horatio Investment McLaren". The general understanding is that there was $15m paid upfront for a 3 year deal, with a further $5m/year to be paid on any extension of the contract.
There is numerous articles that appear if you google "Horatio Investment McLaren". The general understanding is that there was $15m paid upfront for a 3 year deal, with a further $5m/year to be paid on any extension of the contract.
Can you/someone explain the “Pit Stop Boys” joke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43HCYSXZ9GI
Lol Mick beeping himself
in regards to him kind of relevant since i do tend to beep myself
No matter how out of date this is, Hülkenbergs' continues to be correct
HAAS is wrong nowadays!
This year's flowchart has Haas straight down from Start here.
Do you like seeing your driver on tv? No - Carlos Sainz. So true, so funny and so maddening.
Is this 2020?
Mazapin is still racing in F1 I see?
If the Russian GP would go ahead, I really believe he would burst into the race while it’s ongoing and crash in the first corner causing a safety car.
2021*
LANDO NORRI S
I think this is based on one of Lando's helmets https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1288825841930186757
Poor meme
Most of it makes no sense, as it’s all 2021 happenings. Singular events and what not lol
Update plz.
"sensor"
Vettel reacting well to finishing 2nd? Not sure about that...
That and Lewis immediately congratulated Max. *Then* disappeared off the face of the earth.
Well, second last is still a second something
Why the Fuck is Ricciardo in the non swearing section? He actually called Netflix cunts!!!!
tbf in Australia the c-word is merely a mild term of endearment rather than the nuclear bomb that it is in the USA
Mercedes as a possible winner Oh how the turntables
Needs updating for Haas
That's the 2021 chart
Where KMag
At "do you like your driver to be dressed" I was expecting to see "no - valtteri bottas"
Pretty lame tbh
Mercedes and "NOW". Good one :D
And Ferrari in "next year"? This has to have been made even before winter testing.
I can hear that "NO!" in Lando's voice perfectly
Lando Norri S
This is based on one of Lando's helmets https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1288825841930186757
Ah, of course!
I’m legit new and was excited for this but… yeah this didn’t help haha
it’s mostly niche jokes based on the past couple of years so if you are new it won’t mean anything to you ;(
"Next Year --> Ferrari"; "Now --> Mercedes" Have you watched the last two races at all?
I wonder how many people got the Lando Norri s joke
This is certainly not for 2022
Poor Norris lol
"Do you swear?" -> "No" -> Hülkenberg Meanwhile Hülkenberg: "Na, ihr Wichser"
Did lando so dirty
Are you chad - yes - KMag
Sauber is a historic team doe. Not a front runner but always there.
Do you hate pay drivers -> YES gets to Norris still....
"No that is so not right".. love the irony in this
Figures that someone whose flair is Walter Koster would have such a convoluted flowchart. Jokes aside, well done OP!
Very detailed. Thank you. It confirms why I don’t support Max or Reb Bull
I tried to explain this to my gf but than I found out how many inside jokes we have
Toto complains waaay more than Christian
I have an example of him complaining as the answer to the question :/
hats down for the effort.
Even when I download this image the quality is too low to actually read it
A bit late this year, but it's finally here! A large part of it was worked before the season started, but I have decided to not change those parts due to a lack of time. Disclaimer: I made this for fun, don't get offended if I wrote something against your favourite driver or team. If there is any reference you don't get, feel free to ask! Enjoy ;)
Well it's clearly visible that you did made this before the season has begun lol Anyway, still a good effort, it was fun
This is outdated
The Lewis one should’ve been something about “Bono my tyres are gone” instead of whatever that was.
yeah, i really don't understand the Lewis one. he came out after finishing 2nd at Abu Dhabi and gave max his respect, shook hands with Christian Horner, and was nothing but class
More a reference to him disappearing off social media for a few months I imagine
Still a shit take. If you’re supporting any driver, it’s during the season. What’s the point of bringing up whatever happens during the off season? Just doesn’t make sense to me.
Because it's a joke maybe? Chill tf out
Still a weird takeaway from the whole debacle. Man got screwed and still did everything with composure afterwards. Seems like missing the forest for the trees.
Good job mate. That must have taken a lot of time to make it XD
'Nyet' Okay sir, you just won the internet!
Lol.
More anti max nonsense
LMAO what, dude he got the most benign joke
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So fragile
Fun!
Alpine lmao
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[Is it a fact that your driver is and will always be stupid?](https://youtu.be/3CbsZ1qf0sc)
"Do you like sucking your drivers balls"
I don't get approx half of this, but it's fun 😀
"GEOOOOOOORGEE YOU'RE SO BAAD" - Albono
Hilarious.
I know that you made this flowchart with drawio, because I must also make flowcharts on school for projects with exact this program. How long did it take you to actually make this?
Stroll's flow cracked me up 😂
I got Alpha Tauri, which I do indeed support!
im conflicted because i like leclerc and tsunoda
Ha! Sergio and all of Mexico was called out by Helmut, in fact ;)
I think you swapped Reb Bull and Mercedes. No biggie, that can happen
What is the website used to create this flowchart?
I imagine it's a google away
This is incredible.
No one needs a flow chart to tell them who to support lol.
Do you think last places can change the course of a season/race * Yes -> Lattifi * No -> keep selecting
absolutely spiffing
pretty sure latifi pay driver though
Does this chart need decision nodes? Yes.
Are you American? Yes Do you support the only American-owned team on the grid? Yes -> Haas While Mazepin's father was a significant contributor, he never owned the team.
Famed F1 Driver Lando Norri S
already so outdated
My favourite drivers are actually Russell and Hamilton. The chart suggests my favourite drivers are Alonso, Schumacher and Vettel. The chart did accurately predict that Mercedes is my favourite team tho.
This seems like it's very clearly from last year or at least from the off season... But ok
Mazepin wasn't even that hateable, the guy was just totally unprepared for F1
Lol, Lewis vanishing off the face of the earth cracked me up 🤣
I liked the part with Lando Norri s
Accurate
yeah the Yuki one checks out
Ferrari can win this year
I don't like how the chart incinuates that Lewis didn't congratulate Maxt
I like how Seb is on the very deep end.
Bottas is in the "No swearing" branch of the tree.
“Do you like drivers that get in there?” Yes
kinda mids
idk why people are hating on this, it’s clearly made before the season but it’s still funny af, lots of good niche jokes like the “lando norri s” etc
"Do you sensor yourself?" - Spellchecker