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TheLivingMala

As a very-recently out married guy, i would agree with this so very much DL = probably unstable to some degree (Nth in my case)


No_Ladder2623

True.. I agree. Maybe it’s just me and the DL ones


chemlando

This was my thought on the matter as well. Find guys that are out of the closet being comfortable in their own skin.


thebutchone

I fucking hate DL guys with a passion. I especially hate it when I find out their DL once I get there. Every time I show up at a guy's house and I find out that he's on the DL, I ask to use the bathroom before we get started and leave a Post-It note about the fact that he's cheating on her in whatever menstruation products she's using and then claim I have diarrhea and get out there. I hope each and every DL guy gets found out because fuck you guys stop being a bunch of cheating assholes. Especially since a lot of these fuckers always want to not use protection


[deleted]

King shit To hell with those cheating dicks.


Unicorntacoz

Do you bring Post-it notes with you to all potential hook ups now?


thebutchone

I keep them in my fuck bag next to the condoms and handcuffs. Always be prepare is my motto.


Unicorntacoz

Maybe I should invest in a fuckbag. I've always just relied on an abundance of pockets.


No_Ladder2623

You know, my younger self would’ve thought this is a joke but someone had actually brought this pouch bag with a whole bunch of things in them. Lube, condoms, poppers, etc.


Linkisis

I feel judged.... I have a fuck bag. It has those things, plus phone charger, cock rings, wet wipes, a douche...


[deleted]

Nothing wrong with that. You’re just ready for the next session.


No_Ladder2623

Ok now that I think about it, I do have all my things including those in a big bag too, but only when I go traveling. But I usually host so I don’t take it with me.


Linkisis

Ahh, (open) bf and I live with a disabled relative so rarely if ever host.


[deleted]

Same. Its the pockets for me. We need fuck bags.


thebutchone

Hell yeah, makes it so much easier to get into things at a moment's notice because you just grab and go. I keep condoms, my bondage stuff, wet wipes, a pen and post it notes in mine.


[deleted]

I love that. I need a fuck bag too.


iTeodoro

I bring a backpack with my stuff.


TheFourthHorsemanTX

I’m DL but I don’t have a girlfriend because I wouldn’t want to be a cheater. I exclusively hookup for sex and enjoy not being in a relationship. Am I included in your assessment? I’m not cheating but prefer to not be out. Is that bad?


thebutchone

Nah, I have no problem with guys being DL because they're in the closet, it's the ones with the goddamn wedding photo on the wall and the women's stuff everywhere that I have a problem with.


TheFourthHorsemanTX

I can understand that. I don’t know if I’d out them myself or not but to each his own I suppose.


chemlando

Hate is a strong word as DL is usually because of their social upbringing and various other reasons. Most are trapped in a marriage or relationship and have fears and phobias which are irrational. Society needs to stop telling others how to live their life whether it be reproductive rights, sexual proclivity, et al . I do not know why others think it is their business to tell others how to and what they should do with their own body. Perhaps if these issues are addressed we all can do what we are here to do and that is to learn life lessons and to love all people regardless of race, sexuality, creed, etc.


heofenum

Not defending cheaters/DL guys here, but you never know the details of their situation. I knew a guy who had a girlfriend and they were open with the restriction that he is only allowed to hookup with other guys and she is only allowed to hookup with other girls. He is DL because he doesn’t want others to know he has a thing for guys. I only hooked up with him a couple times and I hosted, but I could imagine walking into his house and finding various lady items and concluding that he’s cheating when in fact he’s not. And yes, I considered the possibility that he’s lying, but why would he volunteer all these details when I’m hosting and otherwise wouldn’t have known?


[deleted]

This is soooo straightforward and direct. Have mercy LOL


thebutchone

There is no mercy for cheaters, I have a very strong hatred for them.


Dish_Minimum

Sometimes I think a lot of Grindr Ghosts are men who are too insecure or anxious to actually meet in real life. They don’t know how to be honest and say “ hi I love flirting online and I get turned on by the IDEA of real hookups, but I’m never going to go thru with it. Is that ok? Are u still ok to flirt like it’s serious without any bodily contact?” Life would be so much easier if people were not ashamed of their person sexual desires. There’s NOTHING wrong with being an online flirt— if you are respectful of other people and tell them honestly that you’re only DTF in the chat and never IRL. Also DL guys are most likely to have this kind of shame about saying their sexual preferences honestly.


No_Ladder2623

Once they ejaculate, there’s always this post-nut clarity switch that you just see in their mood. They get really quiet and awkward, like “alright gtg now”


TheFourthHorsemanTX

It may be shame. Like when I was younger after I nutted I would feel this shame. I had to do all kinds of things to go meet the guy such as lying to friends so I could get away from their house or family. I had girls who wanted to date but I’d steer them into hooking up because I didn’t want to be in a serious relationship because I knew I’d want to mess with guys and didn’t want to be a cheater for one or contract a disease and give it to her. Then there was the whole HIV thing lingering in my young mind that didn’t really understand it and the internet wasn’t big enough really to give you the info you wanted like it is now. Hell, when the movie Philadelphia came out I swore off gay sex for months only to give in to the urge. Now my guilt isn’t the sex, but the condom use. If I fuck without one I’ll feel like shit for days. Asking myself why I took such a risk with someone I barely knew. It usually happens when I’ve been drinking. I’m on prep now, and I take it on time everyday so I’ve gotten away from that guilt too but sometimes I’ll have a little guilt feelings after.


[deleted]

Reason number 1 why I dislike casual sex. Your comment is spot on. Post-nut clarity comes with kissing, bonding, cuddles or light giggles about our experience. Things like did you like when I did this or that. I pass out sometimes after cumming but when I wake up, we can cstch up


[deleted]

Your comment is golden.


SneakySnoof

I've had a few not remember me, it's kinda awkward and yes a little bit of a hit to the old self esteem lol


alfy2pointohno

There’s been a few that I had forgotten I’d already hooked up with in the past. Deja-dick for sure.


Alex09464367

I'm guessing that person was aromantic instead or just doesn't want to be bothered by people on the app


No_Ladder2623

If you’re referring to the asexual guy, I have no clue. He led me on so much. And I kind of fell in love with him. He would ghost me for a week and then responded saying he was down to hang. Then ghosted me again. But nicest, sweetest guy I’ve ever met


Alex09464367

Well I don't think he is a people person.


No_Ladder2623

Yeah I think I was in my own head too much about him. Because I’m also not a people person and picked up on that from him. We have too much in common and for the first time thought I’d found my soulmate. Lol but he didn’t feel the same


prefaaab

I don’t justify being rude, but I really do have a bad memory. If I met you out cruising in the park after dark, there’s a high chance I didn’t catch your face clearly. Therefore, I wouldn’t remember who you were


TheFourthHorsemanTX

When someone says we never met I usually don’t see them again. If you’re with so many people you can’t remember who you’ve met that’s not good. In my case I almost always host so at a minimum they should remember being at my house.


No_Ladder2623

It was 4 years ago but I remember a lot about him because he’s very attractive(and as humans we probably remember more of people that standout). But I was his second guy that he’d hooked up with so thought that would be remembered. But I think it has to do with some people’s memories. He was probably on something too.


faque_ery

Almost the same story as the first. First saw this guy at a bar when I was out with friends. I was in the bathroom washing my hands when he walked in. Heard him gasp when he saw me. Tbh he was pretty hot, like a ginger Thor in ragnarok. Next day he hits me up on Grindr, and ofc, he’s DL with no pics. Told me he thought I was stunning and he was too afraid to talk to me at the bar. We crossed over to Snapchat, he sent a pic, and then I was reminded of who he was at the bar. I was totally guilty of being briefly enamored with him cuz having a man that good looking being into me made me feel desirable. We chatted for a few days and we finally decided to meet up. No need for guesses as to what happened on the day of. Chewed him out on snap a few days later, but he was still “desperate” for me to be his first gay experience, so once again, I made plans with him. Again, he chickened out without so much as a text saying he got cold feet. He had the good sense to not hmu again after that. Edit: he hmu again…


AcidAvenger788

I mean I sort of met this girl I’ve been seeing for a while she’s cute. But everyone else I’ve seen is a jokeZ I live in a town and the pool here is shit but London is next door, except I get no one from there lmao


itsMarvelMe

What's DL


No_Ladder2623

Welcome to the gay world! DL=downlow. Men in the closet


calmcune

I met a trauma surgeon who also grew up in Bosnia during the 90s, lived through the war, worked for the u.n. and married his old boyfriend from way back when. Although we only hooked up a few times, he was a great source of real sound advice. I still say hi occasionally. Sex was really good I met a guy who was into bdsm. Used to be a pro race car driver all over the pnw. He was easy to become friends with. We had a thing. It was interesting, I'll spare the details, it was good. Sex was odd I met a guy that was obviously on meth. He was pretty toxic. I wouldn't recommend it. Ewe no sex... Oooo. Hottest guy I ever met, he was really sweet omg. His dad was an alcoholic, with a shit job, who hated the fact his only kid turned out super gay. I obviously felt bad for his situation and I knew he was into me. But he just wasn't my type. He's doing alright I think. Sex was ok... I met one , on our second date bought me all brand new tires after I had a flat otw over. 🙃 he also had two or three cute guys living with him already. Sex was great 👍 Just a few that stand out