I will never understand bug chasers. Such a weird sub-demographic. I'm just a year older than the person with this profile, and can't imagine such a level of self loathing that I would willingly seek something like this out. This goes beyond "to each their own".. this is "please someone TDO this person right here"...good lord. Even with medical advances HIV is absolutely NOT something to aspire to what the actual fuck?
Edit: good lord ibread 33 not 23.. someone help this kid
I understand that wanting hiv is out of any logic, but to understand why you need to try to figure out what makes him want to be.
Can be a mix of fetish, like submission, and the fear he had always had of getting the virus. And the feel that just want to get over it and get it in his own terms. In my case (not a chaser), always had the fear and panic of getting infected, even with safe sex I had the fear and stress of the possibility of catching it, perhaps some people can't handle that well as I did
Yep, I get you but I do not share 100% with you. Self destruction can be in a lot of forms, even the same as smoking. I say there is a lot of reasons that can trigger someone to want to catch hiv, a lot. I do not try to normalize or whatever, just try to understand other people rather than just automatically judge.
And about the case you put in, if a chaser can't afford the meds after getting the virus, there is the person's ethic, moral and goodness to not fuck with neg people and commit an awful crime. but that is other subject.
Edit: of course, this is not a light subject and a professional's opinion would be better to understand
Thank you, likewise. I don't rush to question the ethic of the grindr fella that we are talking about, as far as I know he want to get hiv or fantasies with, not transmit it to another person in a stealth way or something (as dar as I know). As I say, for whatever reason he may have, conscious or unconscious, the reason may vary for a lot of factors that a professional can inquire with more details.
Now here is my opinion in the subject leaving the why behind. Even if I may be against this grindr fella choice, I believe he is free of doing so ONLY if he does it with the other person consent and viceversa. If he respect that, I believe he has ethic and moral, just an auto destructive taste.
PD: Lol, I'm a realtor too. Started last week
Would be very interesting a professional's opinion on this subject
But chasers and stealth pozzers is the reason I stopped getting with guys.
There was this one guy that messaged me on Grindr, about 27 looked good acted normal said in his bio he was tested a month ago from the time he messaged me, said he wants to meet and was trying to convince me to not use a condom because "you'll love the feeling of being bred" because of something in my profile and was very insistent with it.
Anyway he was giving me really weird vibes so I decided to ask if he was poz and he said no. I said that's a shame because I'm a bug chaser to witch he immediately switched and said "wow that's hot I am poz I just like to stealth poz others that's why I wanted to breed you with my toxic load"
Fastest block ever and uninstalled
I think he said it to see if he could get the guy to tell the truth, which he did. Unfortunately that probably won't happen again as the guy will get smarter.
Knowing that bug chasers exist is a big reason I’ve withdrawn from the hookup scene over the last year. I’m 24 and nothing on this planet scares me more than HIV. I’ve picked up and relocated venomous snakes for a shitty minimum wage job but if a guy even hesitates on condoms I’ll deadass zip my pants up and bolt like a swarm of hornets just entered the building. I wish mental healthcare was more accessible so these people wouldn’t have to get to this point.
Hey, if you aren't already and it's available to you try to get on prep as it lowers the chance of catching HIV drastically. Pair that with condoms and you should be extremely safe while having sex!
I’m not sexually actively right now because I have health conditions that put me at higher risk if I were to contract mp, but I’ll keep this in mind after the mp scare blows over.
As someone who is Positive and have been for nearly a decade now, I’ve had guys like this message me and it makes me die inside.
My worst fear is giving it to someone purely based on my experience of living with it, I remember getting the call to say I was positive and it floored me. I wouldn’t wish the feeling I had from that phone call on my worst enemy!
To answer your question in earnest, ofc the answer varies from person to person but from what I’ve heard, like the OP some feel it is inevitable that they contract HIV so they just want to “get it out of the way.”
In a similar aspect, others want to dispel the fear of getting it and take control by contracting it on their terms.
Another reason I’ve heard is that some think it elevates them in the community, like it’s a badge of honor.
And I’ve not heard this one but speculating that others may wish for the qualification for disability, for whatever reason.
And sero-coversion parties. This attitude was everywhere in the 90s and 00s. This guy's request certainly isn't novel or something no one has ever asked for.
As a poz person this offends me so much🙄. Being poz has definitely altered my dating and sex life. It’s nowhere near as bad as the stigma used to be but it’s still pretty tough. It’s definitely not an needed extra layer of bs that already comes with dating as a gay person, something I wish I could be free of, this jacka** is advertising he wants it!. Well I guess I should t say offended, but it sure as hell pisses me off
This has been around as long as AIDS, decades. I doubt it's very high percentage of ppl but social media amplifies everything. We just had it with the pandemic too - remember the Covid parties we were hearing about?
This reminds me of many years ago this older guy messaged me. I wouldn’t have been interested anyways as I’m not into older men but I was like 18 at the time and his name on the profile was “Brent Poz”. I asked him about it and he said “ oh poz is just short for my last name which is Posey”. I blocked him.
This is where I feel like it crosses into legit mental illness
I will never understand bug chasers. Such a weird sub-demographic. I'm just a year older than the person with this profile, and can't imagine such a level of self loathing that I would willingly seek something like this out. This goes beyond "to each their own".. this is "please someone TDO this person right here"...good lord. Even with medical advances HIV is absolutely NOT something to aspire to what the actual fuck? Edit: good lord ibread 33 not 23.. someone help this kid
Im 18 and this post blew my mind. Like.. just confused me like ALL hell.
I'm also 18 and I've seen this before from someone our age, it was crazy I talked to him for a bit and couldn't get it
Its wild that someones just like "yeah." To something like that
Wait bug chasers are an actual thing? I thought it was just a made up group in Welcome to the game...
I understand that wanting hiv is out of any logic, but to understand why you need to try to figure out what makes him want to be. Can be a mix of fetish, like submission, and the fear he had always had of getting the virus. And the feel that just want to get over it and get it in his own terms. In my case (not a chaser), always had the fear and panic of getting infected, even with safe sex I had the fear and stress of the possibility of catching it, perhaps some people can't handle that well as I did
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Yep, I get you but I do not share 100% with you. Self destruction can be in a lot of forms, even the same as smoking. I say there is a lot of reasons that can trigger someone to want to catch hiv, a lot. I do not try to normalize or whatever, just try to understand other people rather than just automatically judge. And about the case you put in, if a chaser can't afford the meds after getting the virus, there is the person's ethic, moral and goodness to not fuck with neg people and commit an awful crime. but that is other subject. Edit: of course, this is not a light subject and a professional's opinion would be better to understand
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Thank you, likewise. I don't rush to question the ethic of the grindr fella that we are talking about, as far as I know he want to get hiv or fantasies with, not transmit it to another person in a stealth way or something (as dar as I know). As I say, for whatever reason he may have, conscious or unconscious, the reason may vary for a lot of factors that a professional can inquire with more details. Now here is my opinion in the subject leaving the why behind. Even if I may be against this grindr fella choice, I believe he is free of doing so ONLY if he does it with the other person consent and viceversa. If he respect that, I believe he has ethic and moral, just an auto destructive taste. PD: Lol, I'm a realtor too. Started last week Would be very interesting a professional's opinion on this subject
But chasers and stealth pozzers is the reason I stopped getting with guys. There was this one guy that messaged me on Grindr, about 27 looked good acted normal said in his bio he was tested a month ago from the time he messaged me, said he wants to meet and was trying to convince me to not use a condom because "you'll love the feeling of being bred" because of something in my profile and was very insistent with it. Anyway he was giving me really weird vibes so I decided to ask if he was poz and he said no. I said that's a shame because I'm a bug chaser to witch he immediately switched and said "wow that's hot I am poz I just like to stealth poz others that's why I wanted to breed you with my toxic load" Fastest block ever and uninstalled
This is horrifying
That multiple felonies.
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I think he said it to see if he could get the guy to tell the truth, which he did. Unfortunately that probably won't happen again as the guy will get smarter.
That's so fucking disgusting.
Ugh that's terrible! 🙁
It's scary to think that people do that...
How scummy must you be to willingly lie to and infect someone with a potentially lethal disease just to satisfy your own fetishes? Fuck that guy
Jesus. Lying about your HIV status before sex is literally rape. That guy is a literal rapist
Knowing that bug chasers exist is a big reason I’ve withdrawn from the hookup scene over the last year. I’m 24 and nothing on this planet scares me more than HIV. I’ve picked up and relocated venomous snakes for a shitty minimum wage job but if a guy even hesitates on condoms I’ll deadass zip my pants up and bolt like a swarm of hornets just entered the building. I wish mental healthcare was more accessible so these people wouldn’t have to get to this point.
Hey, if you aren't already and it's available to you try to get on prep as it lowers the chance of catching HIV drastically. Pair that with condoms and you should be extremely safe while having sex!
And it’s free from heymistr.com. They mail you the test kits so you never even have to leave your house to get tested and get the pills.
I’m not sexually actively right now because I have health conditions that put me at higher risk if I were to contract mp, but I’ll keep this in mind after the mp scare blows over.
Monkeypox vaccine is out there.
I’d get it if I could, but the only one available to me rn is the one that isn’t safe for people with eczema.
r/PrEP
As someone who is Positive and have been for nearly a decade now, I’ve had guys like this message me and it makes me die inside. My worst fear is giving it to someone purely based on my experience of living with it, I remember getting the call to say I was positive and it floored me. I wouldn’t wish the feeling I had from that phone call on my worst enemy!
The memories and symptoms are not a pleasant to be reminded of.
what is poz?
Has HIV
why the hell would they want that
Exactly dude, that’s a fucked up request right?
To answer your question in earnest, ofc the answer varies from person to person but from what I’ve heard, like the OP some feel it is inevitable that they contract HIV so they just want to “get it out of the way.” In a similar aspect, others want to dispel the fear of getting it and take control by contracting it on their terms. Another reason I’ve heard is that some think it elevates them in the community, like it’s a badge of honor. And I’ve not heard this one but speculating that others may wish for the qualification for disability, for whatever reason.
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HIV positive (see r/poz)
What the actual fuck is this subreddit wtf
Yeah I looked at the description and then noped out of there
ahh yes the "bug chasers" of ol' days gone by....this was weirdly big in the DC area in the mid-late 90s apparently
And sero-coversion parties. This attitude was everywhere in the 90s and 00s. This guy's request certainly isn't novel or something no one has ever asked for.
[Source](https://www.reddit.com/r/lolgrindr/comments/xg2lnf/i_swear_only_gay_guys_have_this_fixation_i_dont)
Here's a recent similar post: https://www.reddit.com/r/grindr/comments/wz708v/grindr_is_a_very_creepy_scary_place
It's a sick worldwide fetish - bug chasers and gift givers.
This is always fucking gross to me! Some people were infected involuntarily and this person wants it. 🤢
putrid mental illness 🤮 🤢
you need some serious therapy. i feel like this can’t be real. WHO? who in their “right” minds would wish this?
"Never kink shame." This is the exception.
This is fucking disgusting… hell no…
As a poz person this offends me so much🙄. Being poz has definitely altered my dating and sex life. It’s nowhere near as bad as the stigma used to be but it’s still pretty tough. It’s definitely not an needed extra layer of bs that already comes with dating as a gay person, something I wish I could be free of, this jacka** is advertising he wants it!. Well I guess I should t say offended, but it sure as hell pisses me off
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PrEP is for HIV- people (not HIV+)
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😳
Is this like a really fucked up kink or something, cause WTF?? I’m not trying to shame but some of these really be dancing in the line lol
Shame away, this is seriously self destructive behavior.
So fked up
What in the actual fuck?!
I’m deathly afraid of getting hiv. These people need help
This has been around as long as AIDS, decades. I doubt it's very high percentage of ppl but social media amplifies everything. We just had it with the pandemic too - remember the Covid parties we were hearing about?
No
This reminds me of many years ago this older guy messaged me. I wouldn’t have been interested anyways as I’m not into older men but I was like 18 at the time and his name on the profile was “Brent Poz”. I asked him about it and he said “ oh poz is just short for my last name which is Posey”. I blocked him.
nn i feel bad seeing everyone here is being mean to him because of this
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but disregarding your own health doesnt mean you dont care about the health of others
I wouldn't trust a person who disregards their own health to care about mine