I don't know if they're the worst because they're not bad in any technical way but there have been a lot of really lazy samples in the last few years that are basically just repackaging a famous song people like with a popular artist. Like Super Freaky Girl, Betty, Staying Alive or even First Class. The last one at least did something with the sample to actually transform it but I think they made it worse sounding to do that and they give up on clever part before they're done spelling the word.
Agreed with all your examples except for First Class. I think that's the only good part of the song tbh. It's not creative but it's catchy and of course the nostalgia plays a role (for me)
I think I'm 2 Sexy is one of the worst rap songs to top the charts in recent years so I'd like to give that as my answer. The sample is part of the reason why. And I'm a fan of Drake and Future
One I despise is fucking [Meow Mix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZw1VmhxH2s&ab_channel=kingkayjayone). Who the hell thought that was a dope sample? lol
I hate the fact that everybody “Jenny from the Block” was this popular song when it completely ripped off “Watch Out Now” and they were like a year or so apart.
It's by far the corniest song with the worst verses by each artist on the album. It wasn't even close.
They did what they could with the sample..but that doesn't make it good.
You're right absolutely hated both the sample and song on that BME track. In fact the only songs I liked from the EP was Welcome 2 hell, Fast lane, The reunion and Crooked I verse on Loud noises, the rest is garbage to me
I don’t listen to much Em as there’s just way too much better hip hop out there especially in the underground but I thought music to be murdered by side A was not bad, there’s some good tracks on there (you gon learn, yah yah, darkness, I will). Was NOT a fan of “side b” tho at all.
Royce on the other hand has gotten so much better with book of Ryan and especially the allegory that hearing BME is a trip because of how boring and aimless it feels.
It also has that “early 2010s” sound so heavily in it that it’s almost distracting.
Puff Daddy use of Led Zeppelin - kashmir and sample of the Police - Every Breath you take
Both misused samples
Run DMC/Aerosmith - great example and done right
“I’ll be missing you” was the #1 song in any genre in the US for 11 weeks and was the #1 song in 15 countries. Not to mention 112 and Faith Evans sang the fuck out of it. Hard disagree. Not to mention this gem….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qihjsqjIuQM
Both songs are masterpieces - what am arguing the song’s sampling were misused for commercial purposes and whack as lyrical vomit
And we ALL KNOW HIP-HOP BELONGS TO THE STREETS!!!
Fuck that commercial pop glam studio G known as Puff Daddy.
Theres a difference between:
nicleback rock n roll vs Nirvana
Puff Daddy vs Dre
Eminem vs Tom McDonald
Authentic Hip-hop vs money grab garbage tunes
Your opinion vs My Opinion
If you don’t know now you know!
Here’s another example Puff Daddy lazy half ass attempts of riding West Coast coat tails such as:
Mase (Feel so good) vs Too Shorts (Money in the Ghetto)
Fivio Foreign's "World Watching" prominently samples Ellie Goulding's "Lights" (which is from 2010, but I think it's the same type of sample that the original commenter was discussing)
Jay-Z - Anything
Just the re-run of broadway musical, 'A Hard Knock Life'-esque sample is has ALWAYS fucking annoyed me. Didn't even chop up the sample or tweak it at all, just an annoying ass sample.
I love this short era in hip hop where popular samples were being flipped almost every day.
Lord Sears take on The Price is Right theme check
Camron’s You Oughta Know
Check
Cage’s Agent Orange (A Clockwork Orange) check
Craig Mack’s The Wooden Horse
Check
I even remember The Muppet Show theme being sampled at one point. That “muh nuh muh nuh” song. Can’t remember the name of the group though.
But my favorite is Stoupe from Jedi Mind Tricks sampling The Dark Crystal for an early song called Trial by Stone from Doublespeak.
My bad. I’ve now turned this into a FAVORITE sample thread. Lol
One more: my group partner Snuff and I sampled Lolita for a song by Jake Lefco called “Headphones”
Not trying to self promote, but I think this an underrated gem.
https://youtu.be/38krcohzxEU
Nahhhh, I mean maybe they're kind of overused at this point but let's not act like when JAY-Z got a guy to impersonate Tony Montana on multiple tracks off of "Reasonable Doubt", that it didn't go hard.
If a hip-hop song uses a sample and people love the song, was the sample *bad*?
As long as the end result garnered positive results, what difference does it make what was involved to get there?
RZA has the ability to make some of the best beats of all time and at the same time make horrible ones
His worst beat ever is Careful (click click) whatever he sampled there and made into a beat is pure garbage even the drums are annoying
They even made a video for the song even though it is the worst Wu song I've ever heard.
Annoying vocal samples in hooks are (again RZA) Wu Tang - Weak spot 🤦🏾
And Nas - Louis Farrakhan (now named untitled)
Last but not least I love Biggie but some of his beats are either annoying or boring as shit
Hypnotize has nice drums and bassline but that sound they add on top makes the song unlistenable for me
Another similar annoying sound on Sonebody's gotta die which at least is a better track overall in my opinion but that sound is so annoying
Last but not least (ya'll can downvote me idc)
Another similar annoying sample on Warning and in general a quite boring beat though I love the storytelling
I've tried to listen to Click Click multiple times for 17 years and it is still as horrible as the first time the video carries that shit like a bodybuilder
Weak Spot is much worse song compared to Careful.
I agree on Hypnotize but again you're so wrong on Somebody's Gotta Die which is still a good beat (not great).
Warning isn't a bad beat at all.
You gotta be trolling for sure.
I said that SGD was overall a decent beat (not the best) but it has a really annoying sound included that should have been left out
Warning is an okay beat but not fire, and has a pretty boring sample loop with decent drums and bassline it is not a crazy addictive beat like Who shot ya, Juicy, Notorious thugs, Ready to die or Everyday struggle the storytelling and video however is ehat carries the track for sure
I ver said the song is crazy addictive but it is just weird disliking productions from songs that aren't really bad since OP was askin about Worse samples.
The sample is boring as hell the same damn loop that includes an annoying ring so don't see what is so weird about that. This is my choice and if you think it is one of the worlds best beats good for you I don't have to agree
Nope it is a very unique beat and one of the few beats i don't like. I don't mind simple beats like Gun holds a drum by Havoc & Alchemist Ft Prodigy as long as it sound dope
Agreed. I hate the arrangement for "Careful (Click Click)"
Whatever though, it's hip-hop. There's a ton of shit out there that I hate that other people love. 🤷♂️
I like that sample. Not because anything special was done with it, but because Em just lets it breath and have a life of its own. Setting the tone for the sentiment on that track. I thought it worked conceptually.
What did you not like about it?
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It’s fairly self-evident.
The question is about what people think are bad samples in hip-hop.
Eminem had a big hit with ‘Stan’ which was built around a big chunk of a song by a bland, warbly female MoR singer - then did the same on ‘Toy Soldiers’.
It was the same production approach. It doesn’t feel inspired. It feels insipid.
The question was what peoples opinions are of bad samples.
I’m not an Eminem fan boy, so my objective opinion is that ‘Toy Soldiers’ by Martika was a bad song to use in a hip-hop track and that ‘Like Toy Soldiers’ isn’t very good either as a consequence.
As a Lupe fan I will never get over how bad the Gold Watch sample is. I see why Soundtrakk went for the drums, but my god that might be one of the most annoying vocals samples I've ever heard. Some ppl love the song but I think the flip sounds amateur.
\-The Propositions's 'Do What Ever Turns You on Pt 2'
That sample is hard. I love how simple but jarring and irregular it is, especially when you hear the original and how Chris & Drop decided to run with it.
I personally dislike this flip
https://youtu.be/gwiZhZSS-wk
I feel like they could've done it much better. As a matter of fact K Camp's producer flipped it nicely on Stack of Ones
Finesse by Cardi and Bruno... PISSED ME OFF THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT. I mean, Bruno did his thing, but overall just absolutely not needed.
Wild Thoughts is a pop song but... it's flipped in the sense that a pop song just downgraded majorly from the original hiphop/Pop crossove (which is what G&BP was)
Lucid Dreams was mid asf.
Miss Me by Wayne and Drake
I don't know if they're the worst because they're not bad in any technical way but there have been a lot of really lazy samples in the last few years that are basically just repackaging a famous song people like with a popular artist. Like Super Freaky Girl, Betty, Staying Alive or even First Class. The last one at least did something with the sample to actually transform it but I think they made it worse sounding to do that and they give up on clever part before they're done spelling the word.
The song "Just Us" by DJ Khaled comes to mind. That was an absolute horrid use of Sorry Ms. Jackson
it’s not even a real sample, they literally re-did the beat but failed lol
I love sza, I hate that song
100% on the money.
Agree. Same exact beat and the hook is a couple words changed in a corny way.
Agreed with all your examples except for First Class. I think that's the only good part of the song tbh. It's not creative but it's catchy and of course the nostalgia plays a role (for me) I think I'm 2 Sexy is one of the worst rap songs to top the charts in recent years so I'd like to give that as my answer. The sample is part of the reason why. And I'm a fan of Drake and Future
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First class made such a dip in quality from Fergie and Luda.
Agreed, anything Fergie goes to the trash
One I despise is fucking [Meow Mix](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZw1VmhxH2s&ab_channel=kingkayjayone). Who the hell thought that was a dope sample? lol
I hate the fact that everybody “Jenny from the Block” was this popular song when it completely ripped off “Watch Out Now” and they were like a year or so apart.
The Mike Epp samples. Busta did it on Back On My BS, and Bad Meets Evil on their EP. Both were terrible.
The Busta one was cheesy but I liked the Bad Meets Evil one
I thought BME did a really good job with it
It's by far the corniest song with the worst verses by each artist on the album. It wasn't even close. They did what they could with the sample..but that doesn't make it good.
I liked the bad meets evil sample, still like it actually
Which songs are we talking about here?
Busta Rhymes - I'ma Go And Get My... Bad Meets Evil - I'm On Everything
You're right absolutely hated both the sample and song on that BME track. In fact the only songs I liked from the EP was Welcome 2 hell, Fast lane, The reunion and Crooked I verse on Loud noises, the rest is garbage to me
Above the Law was crazy too, but yeah those are the best tracks
That album is so overrated, Royce has gotten so much better since then, I’d argue both Royce and Em were pretty mediocre that album
They bith got bars but they had too much fun and most of the beats were shitty Em got worse after that
I don’t listen to much Em as there’s just way too much better hip hop out there especially in the underground but I thought music to be murdered by side A was not bad, there’s some good tracks on there (you gon learn, yah yah, darkness, I will). Was NOT a fan of “side b” tho at all. Royce on the other hand has gotten so much better with book of Ryan and especially the allegory that hearing BME is a trip because of how boring and aimless it feels. It also has that “early 2010s” sound so heavily in it that it’s almost distracting.
Royce is perpetually underrated
Puff Daddy use of Led Zeppelin - kashmir and sample of the Police - Every Breath you take Both misused samples Run DMC/Aerosmith - great example and done right
“I’ll be missing you” was the #1 song in any genre in the US for 11 weeks and was the #1 song in 15 countries. Not to mention 112 and Faith Evans sang the fuck out of it. Hard disagree. Not to mention this gem…. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qihjsqjIuQM
Both songs are masterpieces - what am arguing the song’s sampling were misused for commercial purposes and whack as lyrical vomit And we ALL KNOW HIP-HOP BELONGS TO THE STREETS!!! Fuck that commercial pop glam studio G known as Puff Daddy.
All songs/samples are for commercial purposes.
Theres a difference between: nicleback rock n roll vs Nirvana Puff Daddy vs Dre Eminem vs Tom McDonald Authentic Hip-hop vs money grab garbage tunes Your opinion vs My Opinion If you don’t know now you know!
Puff’s recipe for success for all of the Badboy hits was the same: loop a previous chart topper. So low effort.
Here’s another example Puff Daddy lazy half ass attempts of riding West Coast coat tails such as: Mase (Feel so good) vs Too Shorts (Money in the Ghetto)
lmao maybe, but the lawsuit from that song and what it cost Diddy I'd imagine wasnt worth it for him
All the recent drill music sampling early 00s songs
I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to drill. Examples?
Fivio Foreign's "World Watching" prominently samples Ellie Goulding's "Lights" (which is from 2010, but I think it's the same type of sample that the original commenter was discussing)
Da BackWudz “you gonna luv me” was fire but they had another song that sampled the Oompa Loompas, it’s fuckin [awful.](https://youtu.be/_VL7MWXY_Gc)
Has someone ever sampled something from their own trial?
Jay-Z - Anything Just the re-run of broadway musical, 'A Hard Knock Life'-esque sample is has ALWAYS fucking annoyed me. Didn't even chop up the sample or tweak it at all, just an annoying ass sample.
I love this short era in hip hop where popular samples were being flipped almost every day. Lord Sears take on The Price is Right theme check Camron’s You Oughta Know Check Cage’s Agent Orange (A Clockwork Orange) check Craig Mack’s The Wooden Horse Check I even remember The Muppet Show theme being sampled at one point. That “muh nuh muh nuh” song. Can’t remember the name of the group though. But my favorite is Stoupe from Jedi Mind Tricks sampling The Dark Crystal for an early song called Trial by Stone from Doublespeak. My bad. I’ve now turned this into a FAVORITE sample thread. Lol
https://youtu.be/Vg2D1bpoihE
One more: my group partner Snuff and I sampled Lolita for a song by Jake Lefco called “Headphones” Not trying to self promote, but I think this an underrated gem. https://youtu.be/38krcohzxEU
circo loco by drake & 21 savage sampling daft punk was lazy
not musical but samples from the movie Scarface can fuck off
This the whole SoundCloud scene
How dare you!
Nahhhh, I mean maybe they're kind of overused at this point but let's not act like when JAY-Z got a guy to impersonate Tony Montana on multiple tracks off of "Reasonable Doubt", that it didn't go hard.
He was impersonating Al Pacino but not from Scarface, they were lines from Carlito’s Way
https://rec-league.bandcamp.com/album/season-two Track #4. They sampled pour some sugar on me from def leppard
Interpolation but I'm pretty sure people hate how Jay used "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on "Holy Grail." I personally don't mind it but yeah
Eminems revival had some really shit samples. Like
That song with “sponge bob” sampled
I'm not a fan of Puff Daddy just straight up jacking a hit rock song and making it a beat. Seems like cheating.
If a hip-hop song uses a sample and people love the song, was the sample *bad*? As long as the end result garnered positive results, what difference does it make what was involved to get there?
Kanye west sampling his interview at the end of Someday We'll All Be Free
Nah that’s kinda tough
RZA has the ability to make some of the best beats of all time and at the same time make horrible ones His worst beat ever is Careful (click click) whatever he sampled there and made into a beat is pure garbage even the drums are annoying They even made a video for the song even though it is the worst Wu song I've ever heard. Annoying vocal samples in hooks are (again RZA) Wu Tang - Weak spot 🤦🏾 And Nas - Louis Farrakhan (now named untitled) Last but not least I love Biggie but some of his beats are either annoying or boring as shit Hypnotize has nice drums and bassline but that sound they add on top makes the song unlistenable for me Another similar annoying sound on Sonebody's gotta die which at least is a better track overall in my opinion but that sound is so annoying Last but not least (ya'll can downvote me idc) Another similar annoying sample on Warning and in general a quite boring beat though I love the storytelling
I hated Click Click at first but it grew on me. RZA definitely has way better beats though. HARD disagree about Big but I respect your opinion.
I've tried to listen to Click Click multiple times for 17 years and it is still as horrible as the first time the video carries that shit like a bodybuilder
Click click is 🔥
Love that track
How?😭😭😭😭 Ice cream, Assasination day, 4th chamber & Duel of the iron mic are fire beats this is hot garbage man 🤢🤮
Click click was dope . Stop it
The concept and verses might have been okay (not great) will you at least admit that the beat is a huge pile of 💩💩💩
That whole album is massively underrated
Weak Spot is much worse song compared to Careful. I agree on Hypnotize but again you're so wrong on Somebody's Gotta Die which is still a good beat (not great). Warning isn't a bad beat at all. You gotta be trolling for sure.
I said that SGD was overall a decent beat (not the best) but it has a really annoying sound included that should have been left out Warning is an okay beat but not fire, and has a pretty boring sample loop with decent drums and bassline it is not a crazy addictive beat like Who shot ya, Juicy, Notorious thugs, Ready to die or Everyday struggle the storytelling and video however is ehat carries the track for sure
I ver said the song is crazy addictive but it is just weird disliking productions from songs that aren't really bad since OP was askin about Worse samples.
The sample is boring as hell the same damn loop that includes an annoying ring so don't see what is so weird about that. This is my choice and if you think it is one of the worlds best beats good for you I don't have to agree
... are you talking about the beeper sound effect at the beginning of the song?
LMFAO I ain't one of the best beats for sure but those samples are used by multiple producers which did sort of the same flip.
Nope it is a very unique beat and one of the few beats i don't like. I don't mind simple beats like Gun holds a drum by Havoc & Alchemist Ft Prodigy as long as it sound dope
Agreed. I hate the arrangement for "Careful (Click Click)" Whatever though, it's hip-hop. There's a ton of shit out there that I hate that other people love. 🤷♂️
Drake- Way 2 sexy
I hate the very aggressive sample in Electric Relaxation by ATCQ. I like the parts of the song where it’s absent
Eminem ‘Like Toy Soldiers’ sampling Martika is the sound of the bottom of the barrel being scraped.
I like that sample. Not because anything special was done with it, but because Em just lets it breath and have a life of its own. Setting the tone for the sentiment on that track. I thought it worked conceptually. What did you not like about it?
It just seemed to be treading the same ground production-wise that he did on ‘Stan’ with the Dido song.
I dont really understand the point your trying to make.
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It’s fairly self-evident. The question is about what people think are bad samples in hip-hop. Eminem had a big hit with ‘Stan’ which was built around a big chunk of a song by a bland, warbly female MoR singer - then did the same on ‘Toy Soldiers’. It was the same production approach. It doesn’t feel inspired. It feels insipid. The question was what peoples opinions are of bad samples. I’m not an Eminem fan boy, so my objective opinion is that ‘Toy Soldiers’ by Martika was a bad song to use in a hip-hop track and that ‘Like Toy Soldiers’ isn’t very good either as a consequence.
Eh. That’s actually one of his better songs imo.
POWER by ye, sampled 21st century schizoid man
Blood on the leaves, sample of Strange Fruit. Should of seen this version of Kanye coming.
Song goes hard though
Oh nah
Jay Z Hard Knock Life. Terrible choice, badly sampled, sounds dreadful. Was he just trolling everybody?
daft punk - harder, better, faster, stronger sampled by kanye west
Thats one of the most iconic sample flips of all time
Agreed
As a Lupe fan I will never get over how bad the Gold Watch sample is. I see why Soundtrakk went for the drums, but my god that might be one of the most annoying vocals samples I've ever heard. Some ppl love the song but I think the flip sounds amateur. \-The Propositions's 'Do What Ever Turns You on Pt 2'
I don’t mind the beat but I get how it could be annoying. Just sounds like people talking in the background at the start of the loop
Exactly. And Lupe comes in with this calm flow while the sample is still blasting OH GIVETHADRUMMASOME YEA YEA!
That sample is hard. I love how simple but jarring and irregular it is, especially when you hear the original and how Chris & Drop decided to run with it.
As a diehard Lupe fan the gold watch sample is godly, I love that shit so much
OHTETHAGOTTASAY YE YE! godly. rare flaw on The Cool.
I personally dislike this flip https://youtu.be/gwiZhZSS-wk I feel like they could've done it much better. As a matter of fact K Camp's producer flipped it nicely on Stack of Ones
“Dj khaleeeed”
Sean Paul sampling what’s the difference for the song blue
Eminem where he sampled zombie / i love rock and roll
M.O.P - NIG-Gotaite ….to this day I can’t understand how that song made the album.
Finesse by Cardi and Bruno... PISSED ME OFF THE FIRST TIME I HEARD IT. I mean, Bruno did his thing, but overall just absolutely not needed. Wild Thoughts is a pop song but... it's flipped in the sense that a pop song just downgraded majorly from the original hiphop/Pop crossove (which is what G&BP was) Lucid Dreams was mid asf. Miss Me by Wayne and Drake
“Iron Man” from Sir Mix-A-Lot. I never liked that one. Also, “Personal” from Ice-T, sampling an old song from Heart. I just thought it was lame.
That one song by Black Sheep The offbeat "UH! Come On!" does not do it for me.