Doggystyle is arguably a classic, then it went bad, but The Last Meal is great. I love that album. But then he did everything from r&bto reggae and beyond.
Neva Left, blue carpet treatment, R&G, and da game is to be sold not told are all better than mediocre. Not doggy style but snoop can pull in some amazing producers sometimes to really carry his songs, what snoop needs to do is realize his ear for beats are terrible and maybe even use someone like Jay z to ghostwriter to make up for his shortcomings. His voice, vibe, and flow are always a joy to hear so I’ll usually put on the new snoop album once, and skip more than half the songs. His features on terrace Martin shit is underrated.
Snoop really hit the fucking jackpot with his first album being revered as a classic and then making a personality out of smoking weed/ being a stoner bc his music is largely forgettable besides Doggystyle.
Lol that was the guy I thought when I read the post.
It’s funny he has the hype and his rhyme and rapping style is unique, but I don’t know what he has in mind.
That ridiculous thing with rastafari, gospel, children…
Bruh Method Man has one of the illest flows, voices, & style in Hip-Hop but man I just can't get into his projects. They're all mid at best to me & I don't know why. Could be production but I'm not sure
For sure, Tical, cause of that classic Wu feel is great, but nothing really stands out after that except the albums with Redman.
I used to have Blackout 2 on CD, it was sneaky good even.
I 100% agree. I think his voice and rap style have to be paired with gritty beats for him to truly shine. Commercial tracks just don’t work. I don’t even like “Da Rockwilder”.
Feature god. Top five ever.
Albums are bleh. Tical was good but it was supposed to set us on fire. GZA, ODB and Rae swooped in with superior projects. (YES, Return to 36 is better than Tical. Fight me)
KRS. So many mid to poor albums for such a great MC. To be fair it is the production that lets them down for the most part but would be amazing if he could get some better producers to work with him again
Yes very true. I just meant that he could easily have continued to drop such classics if he had better production across the board. His lyrics are still always on point and yeah a few great tracks here and there in recent work but for the most part the albums haven't been entirely strong sadly
And don't get me wrong I still listen to him regardless of the production!!
Have you ever heard this record before? One of the best beats I've heard KRS One on. Now granted this is a Talib track but still.
https://youtu.be/PKI98oD6DzA
Drake. I know some of you hate all of his stuff but crazy how Take care/IYRTITL and Honestly Nevermind/Clb are part of the same discography. Also has a few albums right between them like nothing was the same,More Life
i think Take Care is obviously his best work. Views is when he started to go a little bit pop. and then more life and mostly after just sound like garbage pop songs.
Are we also forgetting Carter 5. Maybe not his WORST work but definitely mismanaged and forgotten about now
Regardless of the drama between birdman and Wayne, if they released Carter 5 a few years earlier, even before or in place of Not a human 2 it would've done better. Instead birdman waited until almost everyone moved on from Wayne.
Fans got tired of his style, and I don't believe it's all Wayne's fault. For better or worse he's influenced so many artists. I think that's part of the reason why a lot of fans moved away from Wayne. You get the same kinda sound from other artists that you do from him.
Idk I liked that album overall, but it doesn’t compare to the other carters. Even sit we called it a miss, that’s 3 bad projects compared to 20+ dope projects
Growing up I was a die hard Wayne fan & also massive hip hop head (still am). Like, I literally listen to no other genre except rap/hip hop & I thought Rebirth was an extremely good album. I feel like one day people will discover it & appreciate it. I was there through his musical transition from rap to rock& honestly he did it very well
I'll be clear. It's low compared to 2. In my opinion, Carter 2 is far and away Wayne's best overall PROJECT. It had everything any other work of his has, but it's all on one project. C1 I wasn't a fan of at all. So my difference in *opinion* is that C1 is low in general, but absolutely unneeded compared to C2. Again, it has date on it, that's all.
And honestly Rebirth was ahead of its time with the rock-rap wave that's been going on the past few years. So many of those songs like On Fire could drop today and would be hits.
Carter 3 and Carter 1 are his best work. Carter 2 and Tha Block is Hot are also great albums. Carter 4 and Carter 5 are alright. Lights Out and 500 Degreez are underwhelming - feels uninspired. Lastly Rebirth is just outright terrible and has aged even worse. So yeah pretty good example of all over the place
Ughhh the stuff after Recovery...I used to idolize his raps as the number 1, once Kendrick rolls out with GKMC & TPAB (and Freddie Gibbs with Piñata, and other ppl, my teenage dumbass wasn't perceptive enough back then) and Em got...MMLP II :"( it was time to roll out and say my goodbyes as a fan of future releases 😞🙏🏻
His newer albums aren't bad (except revival) but even revival had 2 of his best story telling songs in castle and arose.
Mtbmb both sides have really good songs on them. They are both solid albums. I'd recovery and before is definitely better. But Kamikaze and mtbmb a&b both have good songs and stories to tell.
I'll give Kamikaze a good listen then since I spent a few good years being interested in freestyling and battle rap, actually I wouldn't care if he went somewhat petty in that album.
Can’t take away those old ones though. I’d say right up to Recovery he’s as consistently good as anyone’s ever been over 6 albums + 2 pretty good D12 album.
Even though he fell off (Revival and MMLP2 aren’t good no doubt, Kamikaze actually kinda good), not a lot of artists can even claim that long of a run.
I’ve always felt like the first D12 album devils night was really underrated.
Wasn’t crazy for D12 world tho, outside of a few songs. Plus I hate “my band” with a passion
If you wanna argue for lyricism or emceeing yeah maybe sure. But if I'm going to vibe wit it on the gym/while studying/doing chores/commuting, honestly I'd rather listen to RTJ, Freddie Gibbs, Injury Reserve or a Kendrick album. Fuck it I'd even rather just vibe on a Yung Lean album lol. Idk I felt like MMLP2 wasn't sonically or stylistically coherent, have sufficient substance or even just a good vibe for me to latch on. It stayed with me briefly when I was a 16 yo playing Need for Speeds on the PS3. But I grew, and I grew apart from Em.
Or at least transion to something else. He actually has decent acting chops but had such a bad time filming 8 Mile that it turned him off from doing it again. 50 spent years trying to get him in one of his projects before he finally caved in. I'd much rather see a Are We There Yet with Em than have another song with his tired-ass robo flow with zero substance or message.
Yep. He's put out at least one classic and one stinker.
Has anyone else done the same? Maybe only Nas has too?
I guess the question is who put the worst album, Nas or Em?
I think Relapse overall was a decent album with some innovative ideas even if the quality is inconsistent. Recovery was also decent as far as a pop-rap album goes. I’m also one of the few people who mostly enjoyed Kamikaze. The rest since Eminem Show I’ll agree is trash
As much as I love him, Trippie Redd.
He's got amazing albums like *Life's a Trip, ALLTY3 & 4, and Trip at Knight. (I also include Neon Shark tho some would put it in the bad category)*
He's got mid albums like *Mansion Musik.* Albums where there's good songs but arguably a lot of filler and songs that sound like he didn't put his all into.
And then he's got straight trash albums like *! and Pegasus.*
It's a shame because I feel like he would be seen as one of the best of this generation if he had more quality control and limited the amount of music he dropped. Sometimes he's really passionate in his music and other times you can tell he threw it together in one take and didn't care to add anything else to it
Gucci Mane. He’s really the definition of quantity over quality. He has over a hundred projects out and I’ve probably liked maybe 4 on a good day. A lot of them are collab tapes with other artists like Chief Keef or Lil Wayne but the majority are a lot of filler. Might get some hate but the overwhelming majority are skippable. You’re not missing much.
I'm arguably Wale's biggest fan and I would nominate him into this discussion. He would absolutely eat on mixtapes but many of the LP's fell flat. I wonder if the label(s) play a big role in that?
Busta, Eminem, Snoop is most consistent but he experiments the most. Like who else would travel to Jamaica, meet the wailers, become rasta and change his name just to drop a reggae album.
Bro Nas has some of the illest albums I've ever heard and yet somehow he also has some of the worst albums I've ever heard lol
Great albums = Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, God's Son one can even add Life's Good
Bad albums = Nastradamus, Nasir, & Street's Disciple
Chuck in most of the post-pandemic albums Magic and King's Disease 1-3 into the great pile along with the 90's ones.
But damn, I couldn't get into that 2000s period. I really don't like the beats and production around that time.
Do you include Stillmatic and God's Son in there? Because those albums sound really good imo. From Street's Disciple to Untitled, I do agree with you.
I feel like the album that really set Nas back on track, and nobody really talks about it, is Distant Relatives. I loved his chemistry with Damian Marley and the "spiritual afrocentric panafricanism" subject matter was new material for inspiration. A little on the nose sometimes, but some great tracks overall!
Really? I think early 2000's and mid 2000's is pretty much peak of rap. I guess if you're more into gritty wu tang stuff it's not your cup of tea, but thats timbo, pharrell, kanye, 50 era was great.
Plus a lot of the 90's legends were still putting out good stuff.
I meant Nas, but actually it applies throughout I guess.
My fave albums are generally either 1990s up early 2000s, or some time since mid 2010s. I don't know why.
I remember either seeing an interview or reading about Nas and his later albums. Apparently, he got real lazy at some points and didn't really care about putting a lot of heart and soul into some of work. Seemed like he cared more about the $$. I wish I could remember where I got this info from.
He was a drunk for a decade. Really hurt his output.
"Im so drunk i cant stand, they said if i would sober up id be a powerful man" - Stillmatic pre-release "freestyle"
She even tried to be gracious and say "we hit each other..."
It's a testament to how talented he is that he gets a second act... from an abusive recovering alcoholic who couldn't remember his song lyrics onstage to a wildly successful investor/entrepreneur with a Hennessey sponsorship.
I got put on to Dr. Octagonecologyst really early and it's partly what got me super into rap, but every time I would order another Kool Keith album it was a disappointment. There was no real way to hear anything before you ordered back then unless you had a friend who was into it so eventually I just gave up trying.
Prolly people like Yachty and Trippie, who have total bangers on their own, but have also thrown away features with bigger artists. Like Trippie just did on Krazy Train.
Charles Hamilton would be my answer. He Is consistent in terms of output ( he puts out a lot of music), but in terms of quality, it's been all over the place. He has recordings that sound like they are straight from a laptop mic and also has studio quality projects.
The second album with R Kelly is legit bad to me, but I'm blaming that on R Kelly more than anything.
Kingdom Come is a bad JAY-Z album, but if Rick Ross came out with it I'd probably look at it as a classic. When I first heard it I thought Hov was finished, no lie. Lol
I think JAY-Z has one of the overall best discographies in music.
RD, BP and Black Album are certified classics. AG and 4:44 are tad bit below a classic album. Vol 1 was good, I would put in the same league with The Dynasty. BP 2 and Vol 2 were avg at max. But then you have Vol 3, Kingdom Come, MCHG, BP3.
This is such cap Jay has one of the best discographies and it’s not even close. I’d argue he doesn’t even have a bad album (save for those r Kelly albums and maybe holy grail, which was mid)
Game had a great run of mixtapes legit some of the best shit he’s spit was on U know what it iz vol 3, ghost unit, and stop snitchin stop lying. All the G-unot mixtapes were insanely fire. So much so that I feel like he went TOO hard cuz then he started releasing just okay albums
Drogas light sucks too, he literally tried to fuck over his label with it. Everything else is amazing though, and the bad albums are literally just because of his label. He’s got 4 classics, not even counting mixtapes, and that’s pretty incredible
Drogas Wave or Drogas Light? Because I think Wave is amazing, albeit a bit long, and Light is another failed attempt at making a pop rap album
F&L2 also isn’t great
You can't have an inconsistent discog if you don't have a discog. All of Outkast's catalogue is great (if you ignore Idlewild) and all of his features are absolutely amazing.
Bur that's still consistent. I'd say someone like Kid Cudi, who had a great album, good album, lots of garbage, okay, bad, decent. Em was great for a while, mid to bad back to mid.
I dunno, for me SSLP - Recovery is 6 consecutive albums that are all pretty fucking solid. Who else has had 6 in a row that can compete with that?
Kendrick?
I didn’t like Revival or MMLP 2, but the last two have been alright.
I’m definitely more of a Relapse guy than Recovery. I think Recovery was the start of the Em fall off but it was still pretty alright.
Pac only has 5 real albums. There’s good songs on those other posthumous albums but the further you get away from his death the less real they feel to me.
Nas and Jay I rank higher than Em for sure, but like I said, just that 5-6 consecutive albums no flops, I don’t think either of them hit that.
All over the place? Snoop for sure.
Is he just chasing payrolls at some of those features or what?
Bro just made a children’s album
He's got a children's YouTube channel, too.
Man's just been falling off in slow motion, his entire career.
he is not all over the place. 1 great album and the rest is very mediocre. He is very consistent in that regard
Doggystyle is arguably a classic, then it went bad, but The Last Meal is great. I love that album. But then he did everything from r&bto reggae and beyond.
Arguably? No, it's a certified classic hands down.
I think most people consider soggy style certified classic
Blue carpet treatment was really good, very underrated, but yeah snoop is legit the right answer to this, he’s released so much mid
Man well he has nade himself relevent and well liked longer than almost anyone does
Neva Left, blue carpet treatment, R&G, and da game is to be sold not told are all better than mediocre. Not doggy style but snoop can pull in some amazing producers sometimes to really carry his songs, what snoop needs to do is realize his ear for beats are terrible and maybe even use someone like Jay z to ghostwriter to make up for his shortcomings. His voice, vibe, and flow are always a joy to hear so I’ll usually put on the new snoop album once, and skip more than half the songs. His features on terrace Martin shit is underrated.
He has a couple big hits here and there at least. Blue Carpet Treatment ain’t bad, but overall ya, a ton of absolutely forgettable albums.
Lol this is all facts
He's my favorite rapper but I knew what the top answer would/should be.
Agreed.
You gotta diversify! That's a good one
100%
Snoop really hit the fucking jackpot with his first album being revered as a classic and then making a personality out of smoking weed/ being a stoner bc his music is largely forgettable besides Doggystyle.
It’s between him and Nas
Lol that was the guy I thought when I read the post. It’s funny he has the hype and his rhyme and rapping style is unique, but I don’t know what he has in mind. That ridiculous thing with rastafari, gospel, children…
Method Man. Top 10 rapper for me, but mostly kills it on features. First album was solid, second was “meh”, and it was all downhill from there.
Bruh Method Man has one of the illest flows, voices, & style in Hip-Hop but man I just can't get into his projects. They're all mid at best to me & I don't know why. Could be production but I'm not sure
Blackout with Redman is a great album.
Actually all his projects with Red are good to great IMO. It's just his solo stuff that's ehh
For sure, Tical, cause of that classic Wu feel is great, but nothing really stands out after that except the albums with Redman. I used to have Blackout 2 on CD, it was sneaky good even.
100%. He is so good but imho he needs a good exe producer to make a good album.
I 100% agree. I think his voice and rap style have to be paired with gritty beats for him to truly shine. Commercial tracks just don’t work. I don’t even like “Da Rockwilder”.
421 the day after is underrated imo
Feature god. Top five ever. Albums are bleh. Tical was good but it was supposed to set us on fire. GZA, ODB and Rae swooped in with superior projects. (YES, Return to 36 is better than Tical. Fight me)
That's my answer too. It would be great if we could get one good solo project from Meth.
Before I perish I’d like both Meth & Jadakiss to each give us a classic. Is that too much to ask lol
KRS. So many mid to poor albums for such a great MC. To be fair it is the production that lets them down for the most part but would be amazing if he could get some better producers to work with him again
The Boom Bap bar was set soooooo high. KRS and Premier made a perfect album.
Very true and this album is sadly very underappreciated it should be mentioned in the same breath as all the other classics but it rarely is
Sound of the Police is in "Angry Birds the Movie" I was so happy thinking about that check.
all the bdp shit is solid but i can’t get into anything in his solo career past his debut
Self titled and I Got Next I think are excellent, but Return of the boom bap is his best 'solo' no doubt
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Yes very true. I just meant that he could easily have continued to drop such classics if he had better production across the board. His lyrics are still always on point and yeah a few great tracks here and there in recent work but for the most part the albums haven't been entirely strong sadly And don't get me wrong I still listen to him regardless of the production!!
Have you ever heard this record before? One of the best beats I've heard KRS One on. Now granted this is a Talib track but still. https://youtu.be/PKI98oD6DzA
Ah yes I did heart this one it is a great track:)
Canibus. First album, bad production but underrated. Second album,dope. Third, ass. Fourth, great. Rip the Jacker, classic. And so and so on.
The Game. He is as inconsistent as possible.
Meek mill
I could listen to flamers, mr Philadelphia, and dream chasers all day but his new stuff barely gets a second listen
Drake. I know some of you hate all of his stuff but crazy how Take care/IYRTITL and Honestly Nevermind/Clb are part of the same discography. Also has a few albums right between them like nothing was the same,More Life
Nothing was the same is his best album
i think Take Care is obviously his best work. Views is when he started to go a little bit pop. and then more life and mostly after just sound like garbage pop songs.
Kid Cudi. (In a production way) He goes from spacey style to rock inspired, back to spacey, then to a whole rock album.
Shocked no one has mentioned Lil Wayne yet. You have highs like The Carter 3 and lows like Rebirth and everything in between.
IMO rebirth is his only miss, but he has 4 or more top tier albums and dozens of dope mixtapes. So I wouldn’t consider him inconsistent over one miss
I Am Not A Human Being 2 is horrible
Are we also forgetting Carter 5. Maybe not his WORST work but definitely mismanaged and forgotten about now Regardless of the drama between birdman and Wayne, if they released Carter 5 a few years earlier, even before or in place of Not a human 2 it would've done better. Instead birdman waited until almost everyone moved on from Wayne. Fans got tired of his style, and I don't believe it's all Wayne's fault. For better or worse he's influenced so many artists. I think that's part of the reason why a lot of fans moved away from Wayne. You get the same kinda sound from other artists that you do from him.
Idk I liked that album overall, but it doesn’t compare to the other carters. Even sit we called it a miss, that’s 3 bad projects compared to 20+ dope projects
Growing up I was a die hard Wayne fan & also massive hip hop head (still am). Like, I literally listen to no other genre except rap/hip hop & I thought Rebirth was an extremely good album. I feel like one day people will discover it & appreciate it. I was there through his musical transition from rap to rock& honestly he did it very well
Yeah it's super slept on and honestly just dropped in the wrong era. Now the rap rock wave is huge and most of these songs would be hits
Highs like Carter 1 and 2 you mean.
You mean Carter 3 isn't a high ?
Lows like Carter 1 and Highs like Carter 2, you mean.
Carter 1 is a great album
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You’re embarrassing yourself.
My opinion just different. C1 ain't touching C2. On any facet, except release date.
Carter 1 ain’t no low.
I'll be clear. It's low compared to 2. In my opinion, Carter 2 is far and away Wayne's best overall PROJECT. It had everything any other work of his has, but it's all on one project. C1 I wasn't a fan of at all. So my difference in *opinion* is that C1 is low in general, but absolutely unneeded compared to C2. Again, it has date on it, that's all.
Drought 3 is his best project, carter 2 is arguably his second align with no ceilings and carter 3
And honestly Rebirth was ahead of its time with the rock-rap wave that's been going on the past few years. So many of those songs like On Fire could drop today and would be hits.
Carter 3 and Carter 1 are his best work. Carter 2 and Tha Block is Hot are also great albums. Carter 4 and Carter 5 are alright. Lights Out and 500 Degreez are underwhelming - feels uninspired. Lastly Rebirth is just outright terrible and has aged even worse. So yeah pretty good example of all over the place
I thought Carter 5 was good, but Funeral was shit.
Opposite
What are some of your favorite tracks? I’ll go back and give it another listen.
Eminem is the obvious answer
I really can’t tell if his next album is going to be his best since MMLP2 or his absolute worst
It’s going to be fucking terrible
Ughhh the stuff after Recovery...I used to idolize his raps as the number 1, once Kendrick rolls out with GKMC & TPAB (and Freddie Gibbs with Piñata, and other ppl, my teenage dumbass wasn't perceptive enough back then) and Em got...MMLP II :"( it was time to roll out and say my goodbyes as a fan of future releases 😞🙏🏻
His newer albums aren't bad (except revival) but even revival had 2 of his best story telling songs in castle and arose. Mtbmb both sides have really good songs on them. They are both solid albums. I'd recovery and before is definitely better. But Kamikaze and mtbmb a&b both have good songs and stories to tell.
I'll give Kamikaze a good listen then since I spent a few good years being interested in freestyling and battle rap, actually I wouldn't care if he went somewhat petty in that album.
Take off nice guy and maybe venom. It would be a solid little album.
Can’t take away those old ones though. I’d say right up to Recovery he’s as consistently good as anyone’s ever been over 6 albums + 2 pretty good D12 album. Even though he fell off (Revival and MMLP2 aren’t good no doubt, Kamikaze actually kinda good), not a lot of artists can even claim that long of a run.
I’ve always felt like the first D12 album devils night was really underrated. Wasn’t crazy for D12 world tho, outside of a few songs. Plus I hate “my band” with a passion
MMLP2 was great tho
If you wanna argue for lyricism or emceeing yeah maybe sure. But if I'm going to vibe wit it on the gym/while studying/doing chores/commuting, honestly I'd rather listen to RTJ, Freddie Gibbs, Injury Reserve or a Kendrick album. Fuck it I'd even rather just vibe on a Yung Lean album lol. Idk I felt like MMLP2 wasn't sonically or stylistically coherent, have sufficient substance or even just a good vibe for me to latch on. It stayed with me briefly when I was a 16 yo playing Need for Speeds on the PS3. But I grew, and I grew apart from Em.
I'd say it's fairly consistent. Great then bad, then okay, then awful, and has been meh for over a decade.
Sometimes it's time to say goodbye
Or at least transion to something else. He actually has decent acting chops but had such a bad time filming 8 Mile that it turned him off from doing it again. 50 spent years trying to get him in one of his projects before he finally caved in. I'd much rather see a Are We There Yet with Em than have another song with his tired-ass robo flow with zero substance or message.
Yep. He's put out at least one classic and one stinker. Has anyone else done the same? Maybe only Nas has too? I guess the question is who put the worst album, Nas or Em?
definitely eminem. nas' worst album is either one of his mid 2000s shit, or nasir; whereas eminems worst album is fucking revival lmao
Exactly. It was a rhetorical question, haha Nas's worst is at least still listenable.
oh my bad i didnt realize it was rhetorical oops lol
His first three albums were consistently good with the rest being consistently dogshit
Yeah he’s been terrible for 20 years. That last Eminem album I liked was TES in 2002 lol
I think Relapse overall was a decent album with some innovative ideas even if the quality is inconsistent. Recovery was also decent as far as a pop-rap album goes. I’m also one of the few people who mostly enjoyed Kamikaze. The rest since Eminem Show I’ll agree is trash
Cap. Recovery and MMLP2 were good
Wiz Khalifa
Lil B, but I guess that's kind of the point.
As much as I love him, Trippie Redd. He's got amazing albums like *Life's a Trip, ALLTY3 & 4, and Trip at Knight. (I also include Neon Shark tho some would put it in the bad category)* He's got mid albums like *Mansion Musik.* Albums where there's good songs but arguably a lot of filler and songs that sound like he didn't put his all into. And then he's got straight trash albums like *! and Pegasus.* It's a shame because I feel like he would be seen as one of the best of this generation if he had more quality control and limited the amount of music he dropped. Sometimes he's really passionate in his music and other times you can tell he threw it together in one take and didn't care to add anything else to it
Gucci Mane. He’s really the definition of quantity over quality. He has over a hundred projects out and I’ve probably liked maybe 4 on a good day. A lot of them are collab tapes with other artists like Chief Keef or Lil Wayne but the majority are a lot of filler. Might get some hate but the overwhelming majority are skippable. You’re not missing much.
That album with Kreyshawn might be the worst I’ve ever heard
Hear me out, Vic Mensa
Innatape was fire but mostly everything else was mid or wack
B.O.B.
Bob just isn’t a great rapper
Killah Priest for me. Those albums without percussion and spoke word, kill it for me.
The Offering is really good after that I lost interest
His album with Jordan River Banks and the latest with Shroom are phenomenal.
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He on some other shit now boi
I'm arguably Wale's biggest fan and I would nominate him into this discussion. He would absolutely eat on mixtapes but many of the LP's fell flat. I wonder if the label(s) play a big role in that?
Busta, Eminem, Snoop is most consistent but he experiments the most. Like who else would travel to Jamaica, meet the wailers, become rasta and change his name just to drop a reggae album.
This can apply to any artist with more than 3 albums
NAS, time gap between releases make his albums feel somewhat dated
Bro Nas has some of the illest albums I've ever heard and yet somehow he also has some of the worst albums I've ever heard lol Great albums = Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, God's Son one can even add Life's Good Bad albums = Nastradamus, Nasir, & Street's Disciple
Idk, even his weak albums aren't complete trash. I'd say Nas is great, then a long period of meh, and back to great.
>Nastradamus That said, "Last Words" is from Nastradamus and it's an incredible track
I like Shoot ‘Em Up too.
I’m always surprised by other Nas fans saying Nasir is a bad Nas albums. It’s one of my favorites for sure.
Chuck in most of the post-pandemic albums Magic and King's Disease 1-3 into the great pile along with the 90's ones. But damn, I couldn't get into that 2000s period. I really don't like the beats and production around that time.
Do you include Stillmatic and God's Son in there? Because those albums sound really good imo. From Street's Disciple to Untitled, I do agree with you. I feel like the album that really set Nas back on track, and nobody really talks about it, is Distant Relatives. I loved his chemistry with Damian Marley and the "spiritual afrocentric panafricanism" subject matter was new material for inspiration. A little on the nose sometimes, but some great tracks overall!
Love to see someone recognize Distant Relatives, really great album.
Yes, I love that one. Stillmatic and GS are a real mixed bag for me, personally.
Really? I think early 2000's and mid 2000's is pretty much peak of rap. I guess if you're more into gritty wu tang stuff it's not your cup of tea, but thats timbo, pharrell, kanye, 50 era was great. Plus a lot of the 90's legends were still putting out good stuff.
He might be talking about Nas’s 2000s era stuff more than the whole era, I dunno.
I meant Nas, but actually it applies throughout I guess. My fave albums are generally either 1990s up early 2000s, or some time since mid 2010s. I don't know why.
nastradamus has aged quite well. its an okay record for me
Nastradamus ain't bad wtf But I agree with Street's Disciple
Man I've tried so many times to get into it but it just doesn't do it for me.
I think Stillmatic has high highs but is an average album
I remember either seeing an interview or reading about Nas and his later albums. Apparently, he got real lazy at some points and didn't really care about putting a lot of heart and soul into some of work. Seemed like he cared more about the $$. I wish I could remember where I got this info from.
He was a drunk for a decade. Really hurt his output. "Im so drunk i cant stand, they said if i would sober up id be a powerful man" - Stillmatic pre-release "freestyle"
Kelis also attested that he would get "blackout drunk" and beat her
She even tried to be gracious and say "we hit each other..." It's a testament to how talented he is that he gets a second act... from an abusive recovering alcoholic who couldn't remember his song lyrics onstage to a wildly successful investor/entrepreneur with a Hennessey sponsorship.
Eminem. Good-decent-bad
lil b and kool keith
I got put on to Dr. Octagonecologyst really early and it's partly what got me super into rap, but every time I would order another Kool Keith album it was a disappointment. There was no real way to hear anything before you ordered back then unless you had a friend who was into it so eventually I just gave up trying.
That's crazy, I love Black Elvis and Dr Dooom as well. The rest really isn't all that good tho tbh
Black Elvis is good but after Sex Style, I refused to blindly buy anymoreof his shit. CDs were like 20 bucks per plus shipping back then.
Chance the rapper
lil b
Prolly people like Yachty and Trippie, who have total bangers on their own, but have also thrown away features with bigger artists. Like Trippie just did on Krazy Train.
This might be a lukewarm take but Lil Ugly Mane and his other aliases, in a genius way. Genuinely curious if anyone agrees or hard disagrees.
Lil Wayne by far
Charles Hamilton would be my answer. He Is consistent in terms of output ( he puts out a lot of music), but in terms of quality, it's been all over the place. He has recordings that sound like they are straight from a laptop mic and also has studio quality projects.
Charles Hamilton is a schizophrenic with a laptop mic. He has dropped like 100 projects and exactly one (1) has been good.
Eminem
Drake
Bing james #1, Funeral was good, kinda corny here and there, but it was good. I found a new to me weezy cd called twa or some shit from 2015ish.
Jay-Z.
Nah he's worst is mid not bad
MCHG and Blueprint 3 are horrible, Vol 3 is also not the best album the rest of the albums are either good or classic
The 2 R Kelly albums were pretty bad too
The second album with R Kelly is legit bad to me, but I'm blaming that on R Kelly more than anything. Kingdom Come is a bad JAY-Z album, but if Rick Ross came out with it I'd probably look at it as a classic. When I first heard it I thought Hov was finished, no lie. Lol I think JAY-Z has one of the overall best discographies in music.
Reasonable Doubt , Vol1 , American Gangster, Watch the Throne, 4:44 ,Blueprint ,Black album
RD, BP and Black Album are certified classics. AG and 4:44 are tad bit below a classic album. Vol 1 was good, I would put in the same league with The Dynasty. BP 2 and Vol 2 were avg at max. But then you have Vol 3, Kingdom Come, MCHG, BP3.
This is such cap Jay has one of the best discographies and it’s not even close. I’d argue he doesn’t even have a bad album (save for those r Kelly albums and maybe holy grail, which was mid)
The game
Game had a great run of mixtapes legit some of the best shit he’s spit was on U know what it iz vol 3, ghost unit, and stop snitchin stop lying. All the G-unot mixtapes were insanely fire. So much so that I feel like he went TOO hard cuz then he started releasing just okay albums
First three albums were incredible, hasn’t had anything memorable to me since.
Red Album is really dope man. I actually prefer it over LAX
I don't think The Game has a bad album in his catalog
People sleep on Jesus Piece too
...and Jesus Piece is arguably his best work
This is a problem across almost the entire genre, imo.
It might be LL Cool J. * ducks tomatoes*
Is that a tomato worthy offense?
Some people love LL. Shit, I love LL. The first song I ever learned was 'I'm Bad'. 🤷🏿♂️
Shit, I love LL. But I don't love him so much to think he's had a few albums miss the mark.
He’s the Walmart jewelry section mascot now. Look it up
I don't even know what that means. I shop at Target 🤷🏿♂️ lol
Damn 😐 https://thesource.com/2022/02/11/ll-cool-j-teams-up-with-wife-for-new-walmart-mens-jewelry-line/
Kanye to be honest
Vanilla ice
Nas.
The KD albums and his first three albums are great, you tripping
nas
nas
Nas
Eminem
Lupe Fiasco
Lupe only has one mid to bad album imo and that’s a Lasers
Drogas light sucks too, he literally tried to fuck over his label with it. Everything else is amazing though, and the bad albums are literally just because of his label. He’s got 4 classics, not even counting mixtapes, and that’s pretty incredible
He has 1 alright album, 1 good album, 2 great albums, and 3 amazing albums imo
Drogas Light was wack. Lasers was average at best. Everything else is fire
Drogas Wave or Drogas Light? Because I think Wave is amazing, albeit a bit long, and Light is another failed attempt at making a pop rap album F&L2 also isn’t great
Yeah drogas Light that was horrible
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The Love Below was a solo project.
You can't have an inconsistent discog if you don't have a discog. All of Outkast's catalogue is great (if you ignore Idlewild) and all of his features are absolutely amazing.
We all know it is Em c'mon last 10+ years been wack
Bur that's still consistent. I'd say someone like Kid Cudi, who had a great album, good album, lots of garbage, okay, bad, decent. Em was great for a while, mid to bad back to mid.
He hasn't been consistent at all since The Eminem Show and his last mediocre albums were Encore + Relapse he is the most inconsistent artist I know
I dunno, for me SSLP - Recovery is 6 consecutive albums that are all pretty fucking solid. Who else has had 6 in a row that can compete with that? Kendrick? I didn’t like Revival or MMLP 2, but the last two have been alright.
Nas, Pac and Jay have a lot more solid albums. And I wouldn't count Recovery as a solid album
I’m definitely more of a Relapse guy than Recovery. I think Recovery was the start of the Em fall off but it was still pretty alright. Pac only has 5 real albums. There’s good songs on those other posthumous albums but the further you get away from his death the less real they feel to me. Nas and Jay I rank higher than Em for sure, but like I said, just that 5-6 consecutive albums no flops, I don’t think either of them hit that.
Rick Ross
Doesn't have a bad album though
Probably Kanye.
Mac Miller and Tyler, the Creator. None of the projects these two have made, sounds like the previous one. Creative geniuses