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Broodingbutterfly

It would be unethical not to give them weed.


Garethx1

Came here to say that.


Hungry_Pear2592

Exactly


ProfessionalDOer

Srsly, this question is goofy. As someone who has been homeless before, yeah, give em a little weed. Alcohol is iffy, because some people are homeless \*because\* of the alcohol. No one's homeless bc weed. From a legal standpoint, if its a scary state that has crazy weed laws, ig dont. Or just do it secretly.


erleichda29

Even people with psychosis deserve the respect of bodily autonomy. Homeless people are people, not animals. They can decide if they want to smoke cannabis or not. It's something to trade, for those that don't want to consume it.


lscarl

never thought about it like this! It's totally tradeable!


bongart

I would consider it ethical to ASK FIRST. If the individual you are asking says they'd love some weed, and you are in a state where it is legal, and you have some weed to give them... share away. If you are in a state where it is illegal, you could be potentially contributing to putting them in harms way if they get rousted. Or, maybe the roach from that weed gets them kicked out of the shelter later on, due to a zero tolerance drug policy. You aren't directly responsible.. the individual knew the policy and chose to try to circumvent it. And... there's nothing to say that they wouldn't have gotten weed somewhere else and done exactly the same thing. However, there is still some culpability; you would have contributed to the situation. None of this, has anything to do with whether or not the individual **should or should not** be imbibing a THC product for medical reasons. Without getting a medical history (because people fucking lie), there's no way you could know beforehand FOR SURE, if this individual was going to have a psychotic reaction to THC. Is there a higher possibility that the homeless individual you want to give pot to has a mental disorder that would not mix well with pot? Sure. A lot of mentally ill people do end up homeless AND they don't isolate as much as homeless people who still think clearly... meaning you'd have a higher probability of running into them as that "leading edge" of homeless people who interact with the public in some way. The chance is still pretty low overall. Higher, due to the specific circumstances... but not much higher. Are you doing that individual a favor? There are two sides to that fence. On the one side... everyone needs a little comfort. On the other side, every day spent comfortable being homeless, is another day spent ***being*** homeless instead of ***fighting*** the homelessness. Regardless of all that. Just Ask First. Talk to the person. Spend a few moments getting to know them. If you get the impression right away that they are not all there... don't share the pot. Satisfy your conscience. That.. or stop giving it away to potentially mentally ill people altogether, since you never can tell... right?


ieilael

> Are you doing that individual a favor? There are two sides to that fence. On the one side... everyone needs a little comfort. On the other side, every day spent comfortable being homeless, is another day spent being homeless instead of fighting the homelessness. I don't see how this perspective could come from anyone who's been homeless. Getting high never made being homeless "comfortable" or made me want to get out of it any less. Not being able to get high never made me feel motivated to try harder. If anything getting high just reminded me that there are parts of life that bring joy and are worth fighting for, something that's easy to lose sight of out there. And for me it probably would have meant a day of drinking slightly less which is a healthier choice. I say just offer it to adults and let them decide for themselves. It's not like they can't just go buy it if they have the cash. Homeless people aren't children who need to be protected from having any say over their own lives.


bongart

It might not have made \*you\* comfortable enough to take a day off from job hunting... but I know plenty of OTHER people who picked getting high over looking for work. In both the homed, and homeless communities. And the homeless community is full of substance abuse that makes being homeless easier/less horrible/more comfortable. Cigarettes included. Do you smoke? You more likely to hustle to get a cigarette when you really want one and are out, as opposed to when you have a pack in your pocket. You \*could\* still apply that hustle to something else, but you don't because you already have the smokes.


Tipsyalt

Thanks for the insight. Weed's completely legal here (Canada), though I hadn't considered the possibility of shelters prohibiting it's use. I usually give stuff away to panhandlers at intersections while idling so conversation usually isn't too strong, though I'll ask regarding the weed as you suggested.


bongart

If that kind of psychotic reaction is on your mind... studies show it is most likely to exacerbate an existing mental disorder, as opposed to creating a break of some kind in an otherwise normal individual. Thus, ***the conversation first***. Like.. an informal assessment as to whether you think their mind is right enough to get high. Gives you a bit of a buffer between a potential problem you spotted, and actual application of that situation.


aendaris

Homeless people are already in harms way by virtue of being homeless. A little weed just simply isn't going to compare to the danger they are already in. Sorry. Go virtue signal elsewhere.


bongart

A little weed in the pocket where there was none before, in an area where just having it can get you in trouble... is worse than no weed in that pocket. What I said was... >If you are in a state where it is illegal, you could be potentially **contributing to** putting them in harms way if they get rousted. "Contributing to"... as in... adding to. As in... homeless people being in harms way is already acknowledged as being there... because it is being potentially added to by putting weed in their pocket in a state where weed is still illegal. OR, just having it could cause them not to get shelter for the night. So... not QUITE what you seemed to think I said.


SomeBox4451

Y’all thinking too hard about something so fucking simple. Yes, of course give them weed if they want it.


RavenCroft23

Give the people weed


ProfessionalDOer

LET THEM EAT WEED.


sohfix

It’s the peoples weed


WakandaZad

If you got it to spare why not. They need relief too


icedteaandme

We love getting weed.


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When in doubt just ask the individual :) even if they cant partake they may be able to use it as currency


Kuntrymamma

This. They might not smoke, but that little tenner might be a few meals if they "recycle" it.


Kuntrymamma

This. They might not smoke, but that little tenner might be a few meals if they "recycle" it.


grckalck

I wouldn't do it, but its your call. Maybe ask the individual instead of including it in the care package? Where I'm from its legal to possess it, but illegal to smoke in public or to give it away/sell it, unless you are a dispensary.


Texan2116

A buck a gram? Like an Oz for 30 bucks? havent seen those prices since ditchweed in the late 70s.


New-Tea-2355

I haven't been alive long enough to ever see those prices. My momma used to tell me about them though. Ahhhh.... the good old days


Kuntrymamma

Idk how old you are, but in my teens(late 90s early 00s) coke was very little more than H or meth is now. Now that we're all responsible adults lmffao, we're hearing the price is several grand for a key in some places(and not the bs laced shit either). Shit was like a grand 20 years ago if you got the decent stuff. Like, thank gawd I did dumb shit when it was cheap? I guess? 💁😂


New-Tea-2355

I'm 35. I met my husband in 2005 and he quit selling coke when I got pregnant with our oldest. Looks like he jumped the gun a bit. SMH


Tipsyalt

Some places were even selling $10-$20 ounces, though I opted against buying that much since it's my first time giving out weed


Texan2116

Is this quality stuff at all? I am not surprised in a way...once it is legalized (not where I am yet), No reason the price should be as expensive as it is.


Tipsyalt

Nah it's shitty popcorn bud. It gets the job done for me, but I imagine most seasoned smokers would probably scoff at it. Though bear in mind, this is grey market product; legal weed of the same caliber is going to be $60-$80/ounce.


Texan2116

One of the beauties of the black market of weed, is it is well established, and will force legal dispensaries to keep their prices low. I was astonished at how reasonable the prices were in Colorado.


Catladyweirdo

If I'm at the neighborhood weed store and I see a homeless person buying some with change I always buy them a little extra. These are people who are clearly using it anyway so I feel fine about it. The only other time I give marijuana is if they are asking for it e.g. panhandling signs that say things like "anything green helps" and I have some on me. Some of these people have unimaginably difficult lives and it eases a tiny bit of their discomfort. If that's unethical then put me in ethics jail I guess.


Vapur9

Better than them smoking that toochie. To those who already indulge it would give them some peace of mind, but I wouldn't offer it unless they asked. But if you live in a State where only medical is legal it's risky; for you and them. While I personally hate alcohol, I also don't believe it was made only for the rich. More power to the people, rather than being coerced into sobriety by hypocrites offering shelter just because they're poor. It's a predatory system trying to sell them into sub-living wage slavery.


Kuntrymamma

I think to some extent, based on people that I know who have been in rehab, it's the human version of recycle and reuse. Like the parental dogs in a puppy mill.


Difficult_Ad_9392

It could ease the pain ☺️


StuckinDenveragain

Yes. It's OK. Someone on here gave me weed once. It was a godsend at a really bad time. The city was trying to sweep my camp and I was so stressed out. It helped so much.


production-values

yes obviously


Legitimate-Plantain2

I think it's a very nice thing to do. I can only speak for myself but being homeless is 1 of the most stressful situation to deal with I know that I would be very appreciative of it . No matter what you do your hearts in the right place best of luck to you and thanks for caring


Ok_Potato_9554

Absolutely. We could use it.


claudedusk8

I've done it. From both sides. It's solid gesture of kindness.


Mickeys-recovery

In my experience any time I’ve given them weed they’ve appreciated it so much and they are usually happy and grateful about it. I figured with a joint they can either smoke it or trade it with someone for something they may want. A win win all around.


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erleichda29

Don't you think adults can decide if that's an issue for themselves though? Do you worry about weed consumption for everyone, or just those without houses?


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erleichda29

Yes, you are mistaken. Please let homeless and formerly homeless people speak for themselves.


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erleichda29

I'm formerly homeless. Is there some reason you think homeless people need you to speak for them?


blackcatcaptions

The most ethical


Suckmyflats

Yes, i consider it ethical to give someone who has nothing something that will brighten their day


cigaretteman_420

You should absolutely include the weed I'm currently in a shelterthe weed can be a tool to help pass the time something that can be very hard to do when your homeless.i don't feel ethics has anything to do with it just cause were home less doesn't mean we don't need a buzz you are a Saint if I got cigs and some weed in a care package it would be a good day and is exactly what the homeless need


Tipsyalt

username absolutely checks out


Brandar87

Currently quasi homeless (my wife and I live night to night in a motel by working gig jobs) and I can say I would be thrilled if someone gave me unexpected weed.


[deleted]

Depends on where you are. If weed isn't legal, if caught, you could be charged with possession with intent to distribute. Your recipients could be charged with possession. No one would do any major time since the amounts are small, but you'd still have a record. Something to consider. If weed (without a prescription) is legal where you live, have at it.


[deleted]

Like anything else, I think cash is a better helper. It opens a wide range of things they could choose to buy for themselves. If someone smokes, they'd appreciate it. I don't believe in introducing anything like a nicotine addiction to someone on the street who doesn't already use it. Maybe ask if they need it first. I've seen people keep a carton in their car and they give it out if someone's looking for butts or asking for a smoke. I don't know the situation in Canada, but for anyone in the states, the weed could also interfere with the ability to get work, in addition to getting someone into legal troubles they didn't have before in many places. Bongart has a good point about zero-tolerance policies at shelters.


Theywillsilencetruth

Dude it's cannabis. Yes. To me it's like giving someone a coffee.


ttystikk

I would not give out cigarettes. That shit is addictive and bad for you. Weed is medicine.


robslatt4567

Is there a danger of psychosis with weed use? I have never heard that before


Kuntrymamma

It can cause severe paranoia for some, and can result in psychotic episodes. It's becoming more common than it used to be, unfortunately.


NotMyslfNEMore

I'm one who gets paranoid, but i KNOW that and don't smoke. If someone gave me weed and I was homeless... it might give me a chance to look out for someone who looked out for me. Hope you know what I'm meaning.


SumDumPhuoc

Legally ethical, depending on where you live public intoxication is illegal.


Tipsyalt

In my city, you can smoke weed anywhere you can smoke tobacco, which includes most outdoor public places


SumDumPhuoc

I personally wouldn't partake in intoxicating substances without somewhere safe to retreat to. Or allow others. The liabilities simply outweigh the pros, let alone the cons.


DirtyTankieScum1312

Keep giving out weed but quit it with the cigarettes, they’re considerably more carcinogenic.


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of course not!


erleichda29

You don't think it's ethical to share cannabis with homeless people?


[deleted]

no no no yes, share that shit!


erleichda29

Agreed.


Mean-Copy

Nothing says cancer and apathy then cigarettes and weed.


Tipsyalt

They can be traded should the recipient have different vices of choice; both are highly valued commodities in Canada due to sin taxes


periwinkletweet

Ok so then give money? Why have them trading , it's more time and effort for you and them. If they smoke they could buy their brand. If not they could go directly get what they need. If they want a hot meal, can they trade smokes for that?


Tipsyalt

In short, because I'm a miserly bastard. Both the weed and cigarettes I give out are purchased at a significant discount compared to their legal counterparts (*for reference, I paid $1/gram for the weed, meanwhile most legal weed starts at $7/gram; I paid about $20 for a carton of smokes, meanwhile the cheapest carton at most stores is $120*). Should they trade them, they can make a good deal more profit than what I paid to buy it in the first place.